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I will for sure ๐
Cool! Looks like a lot of work
Indeed. Don't do an MMO with just two guys. Would not recommend.
Ah I see. Thanks for responding
Cool! Hope it all works out. Looks super interesting!
We need to get Thor's reaction to this:
i legit feel sick because of that
If i drop 48k on a space ship. I better be able to take it to the moon.
If i drop 48k on a space shp. It better take me to the moon IRL
And back again....
Lets not forget that part....tho maybe i should live among the stars.
Iโm very late to this but HEHEHEHEHE GET GNOMED
hey just wondering is there a character limit to the tts? i finally got enough bits to send one in and i want to write it up ahead of stream
another day with thor saving our sanity with strum 
It would be as long as twitch allows I think.
gotcha
honestly i found SC sus from the get go. there was like zero content and the shop was more developed than the game
Isnโt the new player experience still a buggy crashfest too?
no idea never invested a penny to find out
@minor nymph When Goblins are developing new ways to gnome you.
https://youtu.be/YPW_HeOHA1E?si=QvESqRhVwGw15KQ7
advances in nuclear gnome technology.
share with credit to nav9
thx to SentientLemonTree and seth for inspiring me to make this
oh we are allowed to tag thor like that?
i mean nothing stops you?
uhm uhm @minor nymph is there a logical reason that heartbound is shown twice in the channel picks? that doesnt really makes sense 
yep is on purpose
yeah well just because you can doesnt mean you should. i know discords where you get a warning or straight up yeeted if you do
oh how so? XD is it a insider joke im missing?
probably just him trolling us tbh
what a lad
tfw top hype train donors wanted the demo...but only got a challenge coin. sad.
well I'll find out. XD
daaaang
oh dang since when has the stream had cc available??
Since forever
Thor should add each pixel update to the change notes.
on baby centaurs:
I want to buy the demo but I have to buy car headlights instead 
north of the border is amazing
Anyone know what the channel points TTS cool down is? I thought it was 10 minutes, but it seems to be longer
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so many ribcages. so many lungs
It is 10 minutes, but with over 6000 people on Twitch it's gone again immediately
I've been watching for 20 minutes since the last channel points TTS message and it hasn't gone back in stock though
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Anybody know what's up with TTS? Can neither use channel points nor can I buy bits...
How do you actually make a cheer TTS
Is it like automatically above 500
As long as you add 500 bits to your message it automatically gets queued up
Makes the sense
I was literally talking about Stargate the other day in general chat and I come back to the stream and he is mentioning SG1??
So excellent
what about star trek 
can you show the message? I saw someone tried cheer1000 but had something without a space after it
Always love star trek too. We get the excellent Lower Decks show right now though for that and nothing for SG
Sad
@minor nymph the plural of Lego is Lego 
I don't have any bits currently but when trying to buy some twitch tells me that I can't finish the transaction weirdly enough
also today's queue seems slower
Idk, I saw someone use channel points for TTS, I waited 10 minutes, and no one else had redeemed TTS, but it still showed out of stock
Ah ok was just a bug, works now...

Is Jack Black cast in some Minecraft movie? That is what I heard
Yes. Co-Starring with Jason Momoa appearantly.
And he is supposed to be Steve in the Movie.
minecraft is awful with progression
Huh...that is going to be a thing
It's definitely going to be one of the movies of all time.
just like minecraft is one of the games of all time
Jack Black is gonna sing an unfunny song about mining and true cinema will be achieved
If he sings diggy diggy hole (metal cover), then it's redeemable.
I mean I am hoping for a "Diggy Diggy Hole" musical cameo
vaguely so, indeed
Damn beat me to it haha
I feel like diggy diggy hole is gonna be in there, it's a super common meme and pretty harmless, meaning advertiser friendly
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They have Gloryhammer, also known as the best band of all time signed to them and can therefore do no wrong
I mean I'm not that much of a Gloryhammer enjoyer, but napalm records are excellent.
The new album from them is amazing, I actually really like the new vocalist
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wait does thor not know plap plap?
guys
there's a guy on Instagram that used this same exact expression
and i found it
thor advice hard for me, depression makes whole assing hard, even with meds, depression sucks
Just means your ass is smaller. Don't worry about that. Stretch it out if you can, but...
If not... well. Do your best
Your best isn't gonna be the same as Thor's best, or mine, or anyone's. We all have limits
Give 100% every day, even if that 100% may vary from day-to-day
out of context that sounds very... different
That was the intent 
me: I think I'm depressed
Therapist: Have you tried stretching out that ass so you can whole ass harder?
You: "I've been advised to give it my whole ass, and if my ass is smaller, I just need to stretch it out"
Therapist: furious writing
Relevant to Thor saying "never trust the user"
noita truly is an awesome game
seems thor forgor about cursed quest vote every hour
yeah the kid who beat tetris
Seeing all the Finnish people with "Torille", "Torilla tavataan" and "Suomi mainittu" is such a Finnish thing
Torille 
Suomi!
last time he mention Finns swearing is the best and chat was nothing but Finnish swear words
180 at 6'2" is very normal
Thor sounding like a veteran of EUC support and services atm
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did thor ever talk about the new ferrets? whatd he say?
I'm curious at what size Thor started getting mods for his channel. Obviously he wouldn't have had as many before the explosive youtube growth.
Not enough
he said one had a prolapse (butt issues) and mouth ulcers, and the original owner also gave away the second ferret because the two got very upset at being separated after being together for multiple years
so the second ferret is completely fine?
i don't remember hearing that the second one had issues, so i'd say it's fine
alright thanks a lot 
https://www.youtube.com/live/430UIt6mLW4?si=OswxaFbjald2kDQQ i spent 10 minutes looking for Dr kโs vod channel but there is a preview for the YT stream 
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@minor nymphi found this nonprofitorganization that has a special DIM Fund https://www.mightycause.com/organization/Afaferret would that work for what you have in mind?
re: @Phantom_TheGame stuff on twitter
an even bigger joke is that in C#, a switch/case is translated into an if/else tree by the preprocessor before the code is even compiled
switch/case statements aren't real and are approximately 0% faster than if/else, at best it saves a tiny amount by guessing which branch is most likely because it's not like it can binary search this stuff.
my stream started buffering at a very interesting frame
Where is the next stream with healthy gamer gonna be at? Just their stream?
Just at Healthgamer yeah
Said he'd be sending a twitch raid over and ending his stream at the time.
Sounds good thx
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helpful comment
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Thanks, really appreciate it!
anytime 
I was listening AFK, but I think Thor mentioned Frostpunk? The Stupendium has 2 awesome songs for Frostpunk (collab with Danbull)
Really, even if I was wrong and he didn't mention Frostpunk, give The Stupendium a listen! His stuff is awesome.
gremlin gdc meetup ๐
12k??????? That just like hit me for some reason, I havenโt been on streams for awhile but I remember when there was like 50 on average
Man thatโs amazing
Yeah nutty but cool
streams are hitting 5 figure viewings often these day... I was in before the 1000s
but thats only like 2 months ago lol
Bro 0/
What is a watch streak? Is it being there consecutively every time or like staying the full time?
watching each time back to back i think
You have to watch multiple consecutive streams for at least... ten minutes at a time I think?
Just don't miss stream can watch like 5 minuts
Mobile says it doesnโt exist 
if PHP is dead and I am a goblin necromancer. makes sence for me to use a dead language for my magic
okay hivemind, someone please give me a "how to use bits to tts" because i think im too dumb for it. i used yarrCheer500 (should be 500 bits) and afterwards my message. shouldnt that work?
or am i just too stupid for such a simple thing if so i worry for my learning curve in python XDD
I never used bits for tts, but i know that all the tts messages are not played immediately, but are instead put into queue. Thor pulls messages from the queue and they are vocalized on stream
How they were posted. So if Thor is on message 60, and tou posted a TTS in position 150, you gonna wait a loooong time
nah posted it when it was around 75 but im fine maybe the queue on screen cant keep up with the tts lined up
and there is lag and my message comes up way later
Ah, 75 should be quite soon
But adds the total money imputed to the #debt-tracker channel
thats actually....clever....
Even translates the conversion at time of payment for that currency to usd
So tries his best to waste non of it.
If peeps want to ask a question without paying he has the #1180570345602818139 system for a reason
Peeps just pay to kinda jump the queue
XDDD
channel points get refunded too
premium way ๐
He is so consumer friendly with this stuff which is amazing twitch-wise
A lot of the TTS messages are memes tho 
Very funny
Also that $500 superchat that went into the debt 
absolutely. right now just watching him keeps me level headed and being able to handle my work related pressure
or else i would probably already exploded
because of all the negativity. thor is one of the biggest positivity pools for me right now
Yeah he fosters a great community to I love interacting here cause of it.
couldnt agree more. he is i dont know...
if anybody else would tell me "look for mental help" i would feel insulted
if thor would tell me i would not, and take a 100% serious and probably sit down straight away searching
if that makes any sense
Yeah got that grounded feel

its about that trust but investigate
but investigating MH stuff is not easy at the best of times especially if it is affecting you
yeah thats probably it. cuz he is so grounded you know he says it because he wants whats best for you
in my opinion admitting that you need help is already a super big step, afterwards if you found help you are not alone anymore
and things get easier...maybe...IDK
well since randomly stumbling on HealthyGamers channel, turns out the hardest person to convince to change is myself (but the last year or so has definitely been positive baby steps, I think, because at least I'm considering it)
Just realized, Lore looks like Caspian from Pantheon, even with the green hoodie https://pantheon-amc.fandom.com/wiki/Caspian
unsure if this is worth spamming thor about, seems cool. https://pixelart.academy/
he just compared it with schlat ๐
I was wondering why the stream preview had that lol
Monster hunter? 
more like SMH
Tbf monster hunter itโs hard to investigate that stuff too
On Resolution/Aspect Ratios
I'm either crying or laughing in web dev....not sure which
the perfect resolution
even perfecter resolution
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mental health stream 

binge watched their content, didn't get any better at staying off YT lol
but its helped
fighting fire with fire
i just watched kung fu panda the other night so this music is very nice 
DR K stream... are you making an announcement @minor nymph
yes he is 
inner peace
a second after I asked. I love it
Oh god, we're already on level 4
ZEN Harder /s
The face of "unphased"
Intense listening
oh you know, just your average Joe:
- Blizzard QA
- Blizzard Battle.net security globally
- AWS Game engine - engineer
- 3x Black Badge DEF CON
- Hacked Power Plants for the Federal Government
Just your average dev
fkn hell Thor
nah its funnier this way
Should flip his video footage
this blows my mind, i started watching Dr K months ago.
Dr K says the things about ADHD i can't put to words
Careful, dont trust dr K, he will whisper sweet things, bring down your walls and make you cry, maybe even fall for him
Good dude. Just loves gamers as a gamer himself and wants to help folks. ๐
DR K STOP DIGGING ๐ญ /s.
always heard great things, seems like he just wants to open doors for the gaming and streaming community for mental health
Ah ok
THOR WAS MARRIED
NEW LORE
LORE
TO THE WIKI
This isn't news folks. lol
no wonder he knows so much
Let us have this /s
He has openly said it. Just gotta tune in! ๐
They donโt know the marriage 
but I am new I did not know
ok elder goblin, some of us are newer here
well I've been here for two months
I'm just teasing ya โค๏ธ
I have tuned in to like 50 hours of his streams lol
squints
never heard it

BRING THE BOARDS
I can't find it in my files ๐ข
Where is the fancy one?
that's not gonna work on a Dr K stream, unless we will it into existence
remove head ferret??
๐ฟ
Dr k gonna be digging new lore, I sense it
oh I thought it was a ferret's head
Yea
gotcha gotcha
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"this might be a hard question thor"
Dr. K: "Why are you like this?"
Dude lol
Well, that's how terapists ask things to people with that much self awareness
mine did the same
yeah its surprising how you never ask the question yourself unless someone asks you first
I have been listening to Thor streaming for the past 8 hours while doing some volunteer work for my school, and I just gotta say he is an absolutely great person
it's good for introspection to understand the reason you do something if you've never thought about that before
this interview hurts deep, good hurt
you should be questioning yourself, introspection is just as important as critically thinking about what you see online etc
oh i know. it was just the fact that it is so often used as a meme.
Dr. K be like that lol
fr fr (tho I am lvl 0 at doing it, currently)
THor wiki is going to get a lot of updates today!
I gotta get to the Tower now
damn, i can't make the interview, will have to find the VOD
Tower is a great scene, for sure
hits too close to home, too ๐
Dr. K posts all his streams so you'll be able to find it after
on youtube
I would hope not
it's interesting what he does, he seems emotionally reserved. to make sure that he's not angry or sad on certain moments, but he seems to do the same for things that he might enjoy.
Having a narcissistic parent, this resonates
I wouldn't say he tries not to get angry or sad but more he's able to manage how his emotions manifest
or lying to you on the basis that "he/she's young and won't remember"
we do remember
adamantly
fair enough. but Thor seems open to talking about it, so I'm sure some will get added
I hate that sh*t
Always treat kids as small adults they only wonโt remember if they repress it
"The tree grows, but the rings remember"
kids are so much more capable than adults give them credit for
the thing you're never prepared for adulthood is the "tolerance"
I get so enraged when people belittle kids just because they're kids
the fact that you just can't like someone, but you still have to be around them
either from environment or it's extended family or what not
you can't just not like someone anymore and just say it in front of their face
the "keep the peace" environment
the need to keep the peace runs so deep in myself but at the same time hate that I succumb to it
I mean, thats a certain social norm my family is not that and tbh the drama is so much less than anyone else I know cause everyone knows everyone elseโs likes and dislikes and donโt provoke for no reason cause of it.
maybe it's just in my culture or environment
most collectivist cultures are heavy on keeping the peace
Itโs a common western culture but not all
funny thing is, there's no peace there
it's a minefield
you need to walk on eggshells to not start a conflict
Peace through weaving the land mines is so exhausting
i know
hence why me, like other people, found peace in solitude
i don't want to talk in absolutes, cause there are always exceptions
But not healthy long term sadly
It does absolutely I hope you can eventually find a community to interact more with socially
Very common
goblin community have been a cool place since i found the shorts
Is Buddha
unironically yes

That's just how every human would be if we didn't have character development
the TTS queue and Thor, the master preaching to the masses
i can't type if my life depended on it
i wouldn't say that but yeah there's smth to learn from thor & the combo stream between the two is like a perfect fit
i'll watch the vod later i'm pretty excited
HE BROKE DR K!
yeah
gigamind
thor is so based dr k is baffled XD
canโt wait
only a soft reset
xD
i feel that some time, but they could use a little more prep i guess
i've seen Dr K take a break to think, but usually he picks the direction of the conversation
just kinda "okay so wtf are we doing here again?" ๐
at this point it seems like he lets Thor go on
i think prep would kinda destroy the raw honesty?
because its like pre thought out
topic prep maybe
maybe dr k just isnt used to someone like him lol they'll pick up the pace im sure
be the change you want to see in the world
side note i just read the new chapter love the pfp
He had some questions prepped cuz he looks down
but I wonder if he ran out completely?
he's been taking notes while going along as well
thanks bro
That is super awesome
Thor.exe might not crash today, but if we see a Dr K.exe stopped working...
Thor going QA IRL
yeah hahaha
DDOS'd Dr. K
Nahhh the dr downloaded Thor.exe and got a virus from it 
didnt even have to link to him
we can always defer to chat for some topics
Might have to send the new goblins to the dr.k QA session 
clearly the goblins are still here, The Goblins have been temporarily tamed
My guy just said 2ed is the better one
fill in the awkward moments and take time to think
my dad thinks that 2ed is the best one
the goblins are listening
his frontal lobe is quite robust
I argued 3.5
it's basically like "son, don't make me a fool in front of the guests"
๐ช ๐ง
two based dudes just chillin
I thought the thing Thor said about retaining a community by having something that keeps people there and how he did it with this discord was really interesting
did not expect to have dnd be mentioned in this stream
Lots of people do since 1e is mostly a tt war game like modern warhammer
yeah, 2ed is better than 1e
"you actuallly...kinda dont need me at all" XD
WOW I DID NOT EXPECT THOR TO TALK WITH DR K WOOO
2e is more character based for story telling people like that a lot
That's awesome
Fun Fact: Christian Bale can sweat on queue
A good therapist knowing if their client is okay or not just trying to look for problems.
Dr. K is loading
I mean I can too
umm
Sometimes, talking is the therapy
every day
yeah, he's fine
Relatable honestly, except with Ableton Live, haha
14 hours is average
lol
as new as a week old for a twitch sub
he sleeps 5 hours a day, hes got a lot of time
He sleeps 5 hours has 3 hours of fun and 16 for work before and after including the 8-10 hour streams
Thanks, i get that a lot
Thor is just such an inspiration
You can also have things running in the background, Discord doesn't know any difference
i cant, i just made my sleep schedule of 12 hours my new normal
Yea, he's not human. It's impressive how he does this.
I'd be bobbing for apples by the second hour in
Chat: Whats thor doing
Thor:
HealthyGamer looks stunned at times during this, since he has so much info XD
Dr. K.exe has stopped working. 
Losing my mind every time he asks for a second.
oops,. gotta leave, i'll read the chat when i get back, the vod too, have a good day everyone
out of 19 hours left, he streams an average of 10h a day according to streamscharts, so 9h left, of that he said he has 3h of free time so 6h left, is that the time he works for the ferret rescue?
https://tenor.com/view/days-of-our-lives-rafe-hernandez-dool-throwaway-annoyed-gif-11097541
Dr. K throws away notes
Info overload lol
Thor is breaking the dr live and weโre just watching going

Sometimes if Shaye doesn't handle the workload.
!
i sleep like 6 hours every night, if i sleep more i just dont function at all
ferret rescue, work on the game, replying to messages, emails etc etc, he does a ton
i started using a REM calculator, waking up is so much eaiser
The free time is chores and ferrets yes
reminds me of 3blue1brown talking about meeting learners where they are being his more successful videos
well... damn.... now i feel like a lazy ass, i sleep 8-10h a day (as a student)
And he does a ton at the same time all day
ye am a software dev student
hold onto that power, I can't sleep more than like 6 hours in one go
maybe i should continue my work on that password manager phone app i have in development
Youre learning let your brain rest
I'm so impressed by Thor and his responses today, like woah, like wow
I work similarly right now. I sleep 14 hours a day and I can not do anything about it right now 
Everyone needs different amounts of sleep, and this will change throughout your life. Dont feel lesser for it
Thor is a literal mutant with his sleep
Yep, pretty much, I've been here for around a year now, he has done it like a pattern, since he blew up he has been stuttered, but still trying his best
HE IS NOT
IS HE???
What!
Imagine having a thoughtful conversation while also doing that
So it varies to the extreme. Thor has taken stream days off to dedicate research to ferret and their health and conditions all the while losing sleep. Other times, he only gets to spend 1.5 hours with them.
He is literally build different geneticly
he's working on Heartbound on his main monitor, he's talking with Dr K, and checks chat
Having ADHD, i can't not talk and do
Thorsdays ๐
multitasking at its finest
He used to never take a day off XD
That's really impressive
Just gotta learn itโs a skill not a norm
Pretty sure we forced him to take a day off stream
is he still working on the door 
I think having ADHD makes it very possible for us to do both
not sure, haven't checked in today's stream, i had to finish some lab work
Ever done a repetitive task like knitting?
last i checked he showed the fear of the trees from the axe
I do both in a lot of ways, but maybe its a skill thing. Good at talking and hacking is a rare combo
I bet communication takes up most of his days
and was putting flowers in that new area
Very cool
I mean the stream is that
he made the door have an animation to open but when he clicks on it, the game crashes
Im typically coding or sys admining , and having to hold conversations, meetings, entertainment
Then there is more communication off stream
emails, dms
Yep all day is coms
classic
mmm
let me guess, he reopens GameMaker and it's fixed
LOL
if its me id be burnt after a dasy
"What are you?"
LOL
Hard to train that skill then unless you allow to fail
That's a great response
Dr. K has met his match
Fail fast, fail often
Thor should say I am a wellington
Ax that would be perfect
*I enjoy failing / being wrong to an extent. because it means i got to learn, and it was tangeable
now that you think about it, even if you're cloned, unless you have your memories implanted in the clone, he'd never think like you, and even at that time you might be different
get enfp vibes from healthygamer
enfp?
Yall better go home today and get a good cry in, i can tell yall need it
it's a personality test
oh ya just pseudoscience personality stuff
Weโll yeah, I hope you luck in learning the skill fast and well gl and have fun learning.
what do you think I do every night
I really enjoy using it
dont you whip myers-briggs out here
immediate breakdown of programming knowledge
Shot you a DM real quick? Meant to speak to you @viscid kraken
khronos....r u a istj?
you can, thanks for asking
whipping it out
I have multiple friends begging me to do mine
I did above but probably missed it so I deleted it. I apologize.
Dr K. " Can i inturrupt"
Thor: looks at chat Doesn't stop them
Why would you guess ISTJ?
chat controls all
ironic, as istj is a logistician 
alright Lucretios got me there XD
No, I'm not
Assigned Istj in chat
CHECK OFF MYCOLOGY
for those who want to know the rest
we are playing bingo what did I miss
Yes in #thorchan
just a casual convo with the boys
7, game dev, black badges
thanx
Indeed
i'm 30% in to finding out what i am
so the problem with these tests is that they place you somewhere between 2 points
are they just indulging in regular boy conversation nowXD
Dr. K pushing so hard to get Thor to admit to the existence of a "soul"
So on 2 of the 4 categories in myers briggs, I sit pretty much perfectly 50/50
so like XSXJ?
jk
"I'm going to take notes"
THE WHOLE THING IS RECORDED
SSX tricky
ok, the more questions i see in that personality test, the more it feels like those targeted ads
yes but he can't easily check the recording while he's recording lol
yeah, or like, EXXP or something
thats far more normal
these arent definative
what are humans xD
Therapist tings
don't take the tests....
just read up on cognitive functions
five dimensional box
My cat loves his boxes
not so sure about that, a lot of people seem to fit snugly inside a box
supercharged whiteboard
humans are too messy to easily quantify into 4 letters
those tests are for GENERAL information
my kid likes to sit in boxes aswell .. am I in trouble?
its always awesome to box someone and watch them break out of it and surprise you
they arent accurate, or scientific
See I like what's happening, but I also don't like it
Ghost of Peanut Butters past
tbh im torn between wanting and not wanting to listen, im justgonna let it happen
I don't think Thor is susceptible to bait
it's like one analytic vs another analytic .. it's kinda fun
just gnome thor already.
"I kinda see where you're going" xD
they are playing 5d chess
yeah xD
true inner peace is being able to gnome thor and choosing not to
Put that on a plaque 100%
I've learned the line for true discipline.
Amongus?
Always have been
I'm absolutely 0% spiritual so this is a weird watch, but it certainly is interesting
That is DEEP
Hey now, let's not go around throwing the word "cult"
I feel not being spiritual makes it even more interesting .. curiosity basically .. how do people think
This is the most interesting exchange between 2 human beings that I've seen.
you can always partake into something even if its not for you and maybe youll find something fun out of it
You can respect a process, and not follow it in full
i think they went from medicine into philosophy
i can hear thor's puzzle brain
isn't Dr. K hindu?
This is a sandwich club!
anyway mbti is just a random fun stuff I like to think about, I don't do any research on psychology and personality anyway so I just make guilds of mbti and try to place people in it then like score or no score.
Instead, only try to realise the truth...there is no gnome...then you'll see that it is not the video that gnomes, it is only yourself
I am the same but It is fun watching them kind of outwit each other
My brain functions very analytically, so with how I perceive information is something I relate a lot more with Thor than Dr. K.
This is very interesting
I like that Dr. K can teach both and not force you to believe in either
he has very nice hair
Extremely nice hair
pls....more prep next time from both sides lmao
I mean, Thor steered it that way himself aswell
Suspiciously nice hair
See, this is all a topic ive looked at in the last 2 years and its so interesting to hear Thor go through some of the things ive learned or heard about
so wavy and flowy
so .. AI? ๐ฎ
i want to braid his hair :I
Only Ai would always be perfect
i think a lot of people do
"I was going to show you something"
remembers search history
"Never mind"
If you look too directly you will get hypnotized
and im 100% behind the idea that a lotta woman are probably very envious about his hair ๐
that's me, lmao.
i remember a story about Thor, not sure if it's his MIL, or ex MIL that said "f you, your hair is so soft"
it's for research! ๐
dizzy
and now i remember Thor's hair care routine... "wash every 3 days with some $4 coconut shampoo, brush daily"
i'm more annoyed that it's just some cheap shampoo, otherwise mine is ..almost exactly like his but longer
nauseous
mark that down
i think the important part is the coconut there
I recommend dr bronners 18 in 1
OBS struggles
otherwise he'd not have mentioned it
mark it down?
why is everyone who streams professionally just... doomed to fail at OBS
he can see EVERYTHING xD
He can se everything
Bingo board
my stream was changing to 360p lmao
To be fair, it's different for everyone 
yall bullied the mental health expert into doing something new, congratulations
pffft
lmao
KEEP ON HIM CHAT
"Hold on chat"
Like that's ever worked...
even the biggest names can fail, it's kinda liberating to know
THE BEST CONVERSATIONS ARE FORMED UNDER PRESSURE
The beautiful mane must be watched.
I don't take that away at all, its more of a "you don't need to know it all to make it work" for me
You made it a play toy
my brother who's a software engineer, and a senior at that with almost 10 years of experience told me something that i don't want to forget
"you don't need to know it all, you need to know how to find out"
Next job: get him to say "eat my whole ass"
that F felt so out of place for him 
freaking Goblins I swear 
smoking coming off Dr. K's ipad
If he could dig into it with a pen, he'd be blasting his thigh by now
F**k, Iโm a loser
i like this, its RAW
I love that Thor keeps throwing Dr. K off 
We can plagiarize his thoughts!!! He gave us permission!!
thoughts, not ideas ๐
Same same
Let's get into that brain
Explain?
Not yet, we need to plagiarize it first
why?

And that's your opinion, which is fine.
I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't think he's a hack
Okay hack is a strong word
everyone is entitled to their own opinion
HE DID THE FACE
it can be th3e wrong opinion
and it's your choice if u want to listen to it, take it into consideration, or just brain filter it out of your system
did i just hear?... "should i help you with this one?"
i think he's constantly trying to leverage his spirituality into the "logic" of all human beings and the complicated social interactions we have
Does this mean this is no longer no longer a cult?
Yeah @fast pecan Probably because he is judging whether he 'needs' to 'help' thor, but considering Thor, he let him solve the puzzle on his own
i believe his advice is not for everybody, just like how not every therapist can fit your needs, since people deal with multitudes of issues, but with the people he talked before, i think his work has a place
hggg is pretty hokey
at this point, its just two intellectuals comparing notes.
I was bombarded with a lot of his stuff some time ago on Youtube. Decided to humor it and look into it, but there's just... something about him that really rubs me the wrong way.
I expect them both to end the call with lessons learned , and more questions
fair points, i just have an extreme bias against "spirituality"
"the 2 smart kids getting different answers to a problem"
Thatโs just his background cuz he used to he a buddhist monk
be more like Thor. Be curious
Different cultures and things can have the same ideas but name them different things
1000% 
Huh I didn't expect there to be such disagreement over the Thor Healtby Gamer stream but I've never watched the guy
I think , given the stage Thor has given us to speak on, we should have our opinions, but we need to try to avoid the red vs blue conversations here.
Thank you for the correction I wasnโt sure if he trained to be or was one
absolutely
I don't think I have a bias towards it, but it can not be rationalized into something like a logical system. My brain works through evidence ^^"
I believe it's because of the neural connection that I have that allows me to thrive in such processes, since I am autistic
just his experiences and such i think is why
issue is, for me, it made my brain go "brrrr"
due to being presented with someone i was unfamiliar with, talking about a sensitive subject that is often used for monetary gain(see betterhelp)
took me like half of his explanation to realize he was just using it all to help explain actual things
there is a flying spaghetti monster in the middle of universe indulging in wines and games
I think its also important to note that being spiritual does not equal being religious
What is it about logics that is as irrational as spirituality? How does that book exactly tackle this topic?
That doesn't mean you should dismiss someone as a "hack" though, there are many religious and spiritual people out there and that doesn't mean they're "hacks"
Spirituality can be used as an abstraction
lol
Is it about how everything is relative and there is no such thing as "1 truth"?
i used hyperbole. please disregard the phrasing i used
in fact, i'm deleting that comment
I find the stream kind of interesting but simultaneously frustrating because it feels less like a conversation about game development & mental health and moreso Dr. K trying to "teach" Thor about a process that is related, but kind of tangentially so
Every time you remember something it becomes a little more corrupted.
Thor uses rationality!
It had no effect!
But I watch both streamers, I have no problem with either ๐
If a scientific theory is proven wrong, science changes.
Plus people can also believe in science and god
...because negative things add up much, much quicker...
Yes, our brain is unfortunately very limited. But we can perceive and draw conclusions from evidence.
Something we have not been able to do is to make sense of consciousness, not sentience, consciousness.
It is inherently illogical as a concept. With our understanding, it doesn't make any sense. We do not know anything about it, whatsoever, other than that certain neural connections will cause it. We still do not understand why it happens
Or there's a schism waves towards the different flavours of Christianity
how do people even get started with introspection, I start, draw blanks then give up and move on
Thinking about why you do the things you do
if youve ever thought Why did I do X, thats introspection
Reflecting on an emotion in the moment
If someone hurts you, thinking about why it hurts
If you react a certain way, thinking about why you mightve done that beyond the emotion
I think im overly dismissive of myself when I do this because half the response is just "because im an idiot/didn't think ahead"
Thinking about why you believe the things you believe
Usually itโs asking why. Why you do things why you associate things to others and what the words you use are the ones you use can help
Why do you think youโre dismissive?
Start there maybe
I've just warned general chat about this: Its okay to disagree with each other but please remember the jerkface rules, lets not make this personal
Doctor psychologist over here 
I do have a BA in psychology lmao
I walk away from general for 5 MINUTES
Dr R coming in (but I appreciate it, dw)
And have done lots of introspection
Hehehe
I know the common word usage so had to call it out 
RIGHT
Right, but religious texts are considered pefect, being the Word of whatever God they represent (unless they're rewritten by a human with an agenda).
Nobody refers to the Bible as the "Theory of Christianity"
is stepping away from this conversation because dr. k overthinking everything massively annoys me, introspecton? KEKW
I mean Id say yes
Respecting your mental health
Id avise chat not eat the bait. lets move on
indeed haha
Not trying to kick you out tho you do whats best for you
Ryan to Ryan communication
didn't take it that way at all
a little R to R
Go pee girl
the fact that people can talk on a subject they disagree and not degrade into insults, and remain civil, heal my perception of society in general
Okay, I need to jump in here. A theory is NOT the same thing as a hypothesis, in casual conversations they are often confused as the same thing, which they are absolutely not.
Hypotheses are educated guesses and brainstorms. Theories have a lot of evidence pointing towards them and are based on extensive data and tests.
If people devolve into insults, I'd be slapping
don't be the first to do it, make it into self defense instead of an attack
But theories can still change if new evidence is pointing in another direction
makes the difference if things degrade
It is the best understanding of something we have
๐ slappy hand is real itchy
Fail Fast, Fail often!
Was it the Pixar guy who said it? I don't remember
Unrelated to this convo but related to the stream, I think it's great that Thor basically explained the issue from earlier about some systems not fitting every circumstance by showing how the model does not account for every scenario
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ๐
Im poorly quoting John C. Maxwel
Id have to say as an archivist translating is a common bias even when not meaning to and can be a game of telephone even in things like the Bible if you canโt read the original books and even your modern versions of the languages can bias our understanding of the meaning in the words. And example thought not 100% most of the books of the Bible in the us are the King James Version which is very missing in actual knowledge itโs a good start but misses a lot.
There are hundreds of books of the Bible but how many are actually translated to modern English or even read commonly
Did not take the bait ๐
didn't want to be redundant and say it again
I think primeagen would be awesome and make it less monotonous (more voices)
in this stream
love hearing primeagen talk too
Something Iโm trying to find is a polyglot Bible with all the newly found books of the story of Christianity cause of the limits of time and rediscovery same with other books of cultures I love learning about.
what's primeagen? isn't that the currency from that japanese game?
another game dev
Primeagen would be great
itโs a coding streamer
oh cool, perhaps primeagen will also do an interview with dr. K
That that
Not sure if Thor will do a collab stream that often
Primagen raided this stream
He has done it before with the unity development
And onigiri may have one eventually cause cooking
should ve raided the voice chat that they are in too
cuz I would love to see him here with the two of them
more topics, more voices, more engagement
Awesome! We're now catching up with this conversation on stream
It was bound to happen
Emotions strongly influence thought processes of people. That's very clear
primagen would make jokes alot
I truly enjoy this conversation, but Dr. K is kind of steamrolling the conversation. i do predict thor to get to talk again though
Chill chat, this is intellectual hours /s
would definitely lighten the atmospher between the two serious talkers
Not sure if anyone is picking up on it, but Thor is chosing his words carefully
He might be just tired
I have not noticed, mostly because I have been getting distracted often
Well I mean don't we all?
But I hear it now
I don't think so, but I do. Unless I feel specifically silly, I choose my words carefully to the best of my abilities. It is quite difficult to do so though, since sometimes that requires to just sit down for 3 minutes and think how to phrase things.
Sometimes I accidentally skip that step, which can lead to a lot of misrepresentation of what I mean vs what I communicated. It's something I need to practice
This has really stood out to me. I greatly appreciate the man.
my example, watch live chat
Edited, it just happened! lol
it took an hour to get to the demoralized gamedev part SMH
XD he just called it out too
100%. I think it's just a sign of humanity (ie being an organic & imperfect being) to make mistakes and go too fast. I try to do so as well. But I also need to practice that! I really was making a joke, and also in this situation I would carefully choose my words as well, since it's for an audience AND with someone who I have to think clearly to properly interact with, but yeah, 100% understand what you mean xD
Pointed out
no idea it started 10am PST
I've never cared for this guy to begin with, but after him effectively telling me that my depression isn't a chemical imbalance and that my meds literally aren't the reason it's supressed, I'm just... out.
So I genuinely appreciate the approach that Thor has had here.
Man has a hell of a lot more patience than I do.
No idea just till it ends I guess
supposedly few hours according to Thor
Did he say that during this stream?
Thor's working off the back of his own 8 hour stream
I came a liiiittle late
In regards to the depression thing? Maybe about... fifteen-ish minutes ago?
its in announcement
stream section
oh lol nvm
yeah I kinda checked out of the conversations when it stopped being an interview about mental health and started being a sermon about hindu spirituality.
I think he was moreso saying that neurology isn't at the point of being able to simply explain depression in those words since there was a study that said that depression could be explained by things outside of just serotonin imbalances (& more). But I get what you mean
lmao, thor is a beast
Don't feel bad, these long form conversations can be taxing
I do it whenever I want to communicate something, whether that is knowledge or being in a discussion such as this one where a lot of people happen have a disagreement or misconceptions. I honestly like those, since they are a great source of learning how to communicate, but also to learn the perspective that other people have in some cases.
I have a lot of trouble communicating due to my neurology and social anxiety. It definitely helps to be in a chat environment as this one.
Thor laughing, he broke Dr. K so bad he's quoting his shorts
Okay but what did Thor say just now?
That's awesome to hear honestly. I don't have social anxiety but I also struggle to communicate at times (I guess we all do of course). But yeah I get what you mean! I feel the same
About being able to learn in situations like these
me when plants were supposed to have consciousness bc they respond to stimuli lol
I didn't catch it either lmao
to be honest i just got bored
And he's not wrong in that regard. My traumas are plenty and varied and do, in fact, mess me up a lot more than I realize. But the fact that I can swallow 20mg of whatever chemical cocktail and then they're suddenly not the level of crippling that they normally are? That those 20mg allow me to hold a steady job? That's where I'm doubting.
anyone clip it?
this is a little too much theory for me
I have, just editing
thank you beautiful cat (sorry, just checked profile)
o7
The mind is a hard thing to map so yeah take some time to rest and maybe comeback to learn more later
it sounds like he's mixing his culture with psychology to me
lmao that's me. I'm hearing so many new words and so many theories I'm like lmao. wtf?
That be hinduism, friend
yeah something I appreciate about thor is that things are very approachable, especially with things like mental health
And the traumas can also change chemical structure! So I think he oversimplifies sometimes (and overcomplicates in other ways). But yeah, I think there's too many variables to state simply that "this doesn't really work" or vice versa. People are too varied and I especially didn't like it when he suggested that certain systems apply to all things when that simply isn't true even when you look at it from a very superficial level.
Thatโs common practice in many studies to look at historical knowledge as well as modern.
i agree
I think the point is that the medication is just treating the symptoms, not fixing the problem itself, which is why people don't agree with getting medicated for this sort of thing. Personally, I feel like in order to fix the things going on, you need to be in the right headspace, which medication helps with.
Learning so many different words. "metabolize the samskar" I'm highly confused. 
yeah i prefer the cold hard logic of thors coding
thanks
He is using his cultural understandings to try and express himself better so others can understand.
instead of this "whatsifs"
it takes time, but their are plain english translations to a lot of this
The sanskrit words are highly confusing to me sadly
and i'm sure there's words for everything in he's using in other cultures. what talvi fox said
Western culture pathologizes the human mind a lot and so we tend to jump to the chemical imbalance idea right away for depression when sometimes itโs the circumstances in which we live rather than (just) our brain
yeah they are just empty words to me lol. They aren't clicking
They kind of detract from the explanation, at least for how I am able to comprehend it
There's a couple more clips in stream clips
things parrallel often
Thank you all for also being so lovely, in every respect. โค๏ธ
I need to get some shopping done. Have a lovely day, y'all!
have good shopping!
Have a lovely day! Hope shopping goes smoothly!
yeah since this is above me im going to use the time to get groceries too before my dnd table starts
i also think it can people pull down if you hear the word "failure" so much
Gl and have fun shopping
like he said it at least 10 times within a minute
Yeah I do find it weird. Even though I know the sanskrit stuff he's talking about bc this is interesting to me but it's out of place for the kind of stream he advertised. But I mean, it is interesting, and I think it is important to frame certain things with cultural/belief systems sometimes! But it definitely is out of place. It's like seeing a carpenter do dentistry. A carpenter can do that, but I wouldn't expect to see it on their twitch channel! XD
can trigger things
I think Dr. K lacks the ability to short form alot of what he says, which isn't a problem, it really just means he will miss a few people, which is amazing, because Thor speaks in the short form, i think this will tranision to be much more interesting when Thor speaks up
I should clarify that the struggle in communication for me is caused by neurodivergency in this case. Processing information takes a lot longer for me than say, the average person. My brain works very slowly, but also that means that in this time, I can further analyze certain aspects of the information that I received and was processed. I think the "Signal Process" my brain takes is simply a little bit longer, haha
I am the most inefficient person I know :3
But I think that's fine
It's actually awesome
you're the most efficient version of you 
I think Dr. K and Thor had different expectations for the stream
yeah
Yes!
I dont think Thor had any expectations tbh
And you are also the most efficient version of yourself
Yeah! It is! We are all cool! If your way of life works for you, forget about it
Take your time when doing things
He is making the graph to big as it were he should be making it a piece at a time and move piece to piece then relate them later not just say here is this big graph now know it that just causes Poe level up syndrome 
yeah my impression of thor hearing this offer was probably "sounds cool lets do it" thats it
It's hard to prep when the conversation switches a lot.
Yeah it definitely went a different way than it was advertised possibly but who knows
His intention was partially to help his audience regarding gamedev and mental health with Dr. K's help
Yo, its Kat.
And now it mostly went into this spirituality part
yeah, that's what I was expecting from this stream :/
This actually feels like a rare interview that isn't financially driven.
Which is fine, but it's hard to prepare for every eventuality
i think k wasnt so happy that thor wants to use it to help others when ks thing is actually helping his guest
i think thor came on stream to help people who he wasn't able to help. but, like he said, if they don't speak up then he doesn't know the problem exists. so, i think he came on with the hope to help people who weren't getting help from him, some other advice that he doesn't have. i hope that's the end goal of this conversation because that's how i feel like this convo started. my personal opinion is that he's pulling too much onto his shoulders with this, to help people that aren't reaching out or aren't talking
This is all very connected tho I think
I am still trying to figure out what Dr. K means with "classes" such as "prestige class"
Yeah dr. K talked to Thor about that and Thor agreed, that' why they switched the topic.
Dr k is doing something very poignant here I think
he started off with an explanation of DND that relates to Thor.
And what are the other "classes"
Two different goals are clashing
I can't adequately explain since it seems he mostly used that to relate to Thor's DND experience.
its a thing from dnd and wow. like deathknight is a prestige class and demonhunter is a prestige class, while warrior is "just a class"
I personally also don't know what all the classes are, it just feels like a tool to relate to THor
I have been wanting to get into DnD for a very, very long time, but I do not know who I'd play with, haha
prestige class are iconic because there is a lot of lore and uniqueness to it to the brand
classes you find everywhere
just a bit of prep to project his expectation of the stream and topics he tends to think about that is relevant to the title. Dr. K had a note prepped but he ran out fairly early.
The stream is to relate to chat not to Thor but dr.k isnโt doing that so the disconnect is mounting a lot here
Yeah itโs just an analogy to explain his unusual approach
you find a warrior mage or hunter in nearly every fantasy genre
basically, certain prestige classes require certain stats and skill allocations. He was saying that being more spiritual was a prestige class of where Thor is right now, and that he has the proper stats to prestige rn if he wants, with Dr. K's help
I don't know what Thor had prepped, but it was not this part of the conversation imo. 
at least that's how I interpretted it as someone that isn't used to those kinda games lol
Oh I see. I know what a prestige is, but I did not know what made the prestige, thanks for clarifying
If someone isn't used to therapyspeak it's quite difficult to relate back
they're going deep
I'm not very used to therapyspeak and even less used to sanskrit language. 
r/lfg would be worth a try. this discord als had #dungeons-and-dragons
@hard laurel@terse siren And thanks to you two as well. I got a lot more responses to my question than I expected.
im also a newb dnd player
The combination of the two seems to purposefully confuse me.
need Primeagen to bridge them
no problem โค๏ธ I am also rather confused at multiple points and thankfully the chat is very helpful
anytime. but now i really need to bail for my groceries ๐
Primeagen has some examples relevant to the topic too
just watched a video that he uploaded recently about it
i want chimken wings for finger food at the dnd table ๐
DR K GOT THE HINT!
I also wnat chimken wings
We are talking about this primeagen, right?
no problem at all! I could be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt lol. It's what made sense to me, at least. Honestly, all the spiritual shit goes over my head. I'm more of a science/analytical type person.
The sanskrit threw me off as well, but I'm trying to put my doubts aside and tap into curiosity about this concept
Yeah I've got assignments to complete. Sigh. It's a pretty interesting stream and chat as usual though! Have a great day or night y'all! Good luck on anything you're working on! B)
would love him in this stream too
I am highly interested, it's just too much in a short time for me.
its been that deep for an hour lol