Weapon Variety

[devout river]

We have a small sample of the types of armaments in the demo, but what other kids of weaponry are you aiming to implement into the game and how do you plan to balance them?

I for one would like to see variations of ammo types, such as flak rounds and splitting rail gun projectiles, and plasma missiles.

[rare patio]

at closed beta much more different chemical cannons, also with flak rounds
railgun rounds maybe will be

about plasma missiles, what exactly you mean?

[torpid quartz]

would be cool for large ships to be able to mount heavyer weponry that can carry actal wepons like a anti ship turret that has a delayed fuse shrapnel cannon that can fire slowly

like the mantis

imagine a heavy ship with like 2 of these that dont have realistic fire rates

[devout river]

I guess missiles with a payload that causes a tremendous amount of heat and electrical interference on point of impact. Like getting hit with a micro nebula, but I guess that might as well be a nuke.

[devout river]

God damn, that would be almost rage inducing on the opposing team. Lol.

[torpid quartz]

Fun fact about the mantis you probably already know

[devout river]

And obviously energy shields aren't really hard-scifi, though maybe the concept of Plasma Shields could be feasible 200 years from now, but they need atmosphere or gas of some kind in order to function.

[torpid quartz]

It has programmable munitions that get the range from the target by the sensors on the gun makeing it so it can release a cloud of fast shrapnel before it hits the target

Wich just pokes hundreds of holes into whatever your shooting st

And its stupidly fast firerate

[devout river]

Worlds most marginally effective fly swatter.

[torpid quartz]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LDQRtzmSU18?si=GNxlOTUvdvOrF50F

[devout river]

Of course its German. Lol.

[torpid quartz]

Yep

[devout river]

And maybe unconventional weapons could be included, like electronic warfare. Such as hacking enemy missiles to lock on to their own allies.

[torpid quartz]

It would be more like

Makeing it so it cant lock on to anything

Or makeing it have sensor targets that are just open air but look like ships to the sensors

Or makeing them not have any coms and cant communicate with teammates

[devout river]

That works too. I just like the idea of trolling the enemy.

[rare patio]

nuclear missiles planned

[rare patio]

hyperion can equp 2 gimbals with 30mm cannons

they are really powerful

[rare patio]

VDB-20CIWS(or 15 i dont remember) have proximity fuse shells with similliar functional
sadly not available in open beta

but as i remember it wasnt really effective

[rare patio]

yeaaa, return to sender)
i think it planned

[robust cave]

it explodes on impact or after a certain max time (effectively limiting the range)

any kind of flak/shrapnel kind of projectile in a game like this becomes problematic. As it will put being good at flying the ship on a backseat vs just using flak, roughly aim in the right direction and press a button…

[devout river]

Also, maybe a self-destruct feature. If you want to kamakazi what's left of your ship into the enemy, you can start a reactor overload and take the enemy down with you, unless they destroy you first.

[rare patio]

thats not how space nuclear reactor overload
it will just melt itself, then slowly melt your fighter, and when there will be too much liquid fighter it would stop heating because fuel atoms too dispersed
or something like, it will not explode as small nuclear bomb

but you can ram into enemy and probably kill him

[devout river]

I guess I nothing at all about nuclear science. 😅 My sister would be so ashamed of me.

[robust cave]

lucky you, we don’t know your sister. So your secret is safe…

[torpid quartz]

or do we?

[lyric vessel]

Cluster munition with homing magnetic mines would be neat

[rare patio]

lol

easier just add "win" button

[lyric vessel]

Star wars squadrons had stuff like that, really isnt that much of an issue in the vastness of space. Just some area denial tool would be cool for objective gameplay.

[devout river]

It does feel very unbalanced, but that is the point of warfare, making a new weapon and building a new defence against it. So that makes options for weapon variety a little more constrained.

[gentle knoll]

Point defense targeting larger munitions just like it targets missiles would solve a lot of problems for "I win button weaponry". You can easily deal a lot of damage with really advenced weaponry, but defense systems(lure drones, radar jamming drones, remote sensor platforms, stealth systems, active point defense) could reduce the hits. If you're hit you should take a lot of damage. Armoring a small spaceship is probably extremely hard. Also in space the larger you're the faster you're probably.

[lucid minnow]

Variable-yield nukes are coming. Sub-kiloton yields are likely to be standard.

[lucid minnow]

EW is planned. We had an EMP countermeasure that needs to be be reimplemented. We also had a mission called Cyber Strike in which you infiltrated a mining facility in a specially equipped Shrike to inject an information warfare package that would disable the facility's defenses.

[lucid minnow]

Flak / shrapnel rounds are an obvious and realistic solution to the problem. Their effectiveness is not necessarily as high as you might think. Combat spacecraft in the game are quite a bit tougher than contemporary aircraft. How effective shrapnel rounds are is also something we can tune.

[robust cave]

it is possible to make it less effective. the problem is the statistical nature of almost guaranteed damage