Mortal Kombat 1 Story Spoilers

[serene compass]

Oh she does in one skin.

And thanks to the color system, it's like 20 percent of her costumes - and that's being super generous

Then D'Vorah and Cetrion have organic high heels. Like someone had an obsession

And it's not like it's all about realism. I wouldn't care if Sindel had them cause it kinda fits.

[hardy carbon]

Scorpion doesn’t have his scar in multiplayer.

[prisma ruin]

He doesn't have it in single player either except late in story mode

[craggy apex]

so there's no Mortal Liu Kang in the new era cause there's a Titan Liu Kang, this leads one to assume its the same for the rest of the Titan versions, if so, does Titan Kitana's timeline still have a Mileena?

[prisma ruin]

Not everyone did what Liu Kang did

[craggy apex]

So do you think there are 2 Kitana’s then?

[prisma ruin]

In Mortal Kombat 1 Liu Kang exists as someone who wasn't born of the world, but in most endings it seems they just take their own place in their new timeline

Or in Jacqui's case, she erases herself by making sure her parents don't meet

[finite mesa]

Maybe there could be a Mileena in Titan Kitana's timeline.

Wait. Is it talking about NRS Kitana and not Titan Kitana?

[daring saddle]

Titan Kitana seems like she'd let Mileena succeed Sindel

[craggy apex]

Titan Kitana. she has her own timeline, where she made everything, so instead of Sindel giving birth to Kitana, there would be someone else

Mileena? Perchance.

[finite mesa]

Who else could Sindel have given birth to?

[craggy apex]

someone else, anyone. maybe Rain

[daring saddle]

Maybe even General Shao

Anything can happen in the multiverse

[finite mesa]

But I think ATSV kinda debunked that theory. Yes we still get a lot of creative and unique Spider-people, but they have to go through every single thing the original Spider-Man dealt with (canon events).

Anyway, yes. I fully support the idea that anything is possible in the multiverse.

[daring saddle]

I'm still wondering if Titan Kitana survived during the pyramid fight

[craggy apex]

fuck that movie it has ruined multiverse and timeline discussion so much i hate anyone that says canon event

[finite mesa]

Okay okay. Sorry.

[daring saddle]

Titan Jax body slammed her down the stairs last I remember

[craggy apex]

also the movie itself is about debunking that whole theory. that canon events DONT have to happen.

[finite mesa]

She was last seen killing the alternate variants of Cassie, Jacqui, Jin and Takeda, helping the player advanced through the pyramid.

[daring saddle]

Then she thumbs up and gets yeeted by Jax

[finite mesa]

Maybe that could be the basis of Beyond The Spider-Verse, where Miles shows Miguel that his perception to these sorts of things is false.

That these events don't need to happen.

Nevertheless, ITSV and ATSV are still good movies and I'm excited for Beyond.

[daring saddle]

https://youtu.be/x3F-9smf_KA?si=oc4UaDqQiVygJKeT

5:28

[craggy apex]

yeah she gets fuckin tackled. i hope shes okay and not just killed by random titan variant 426345

[vocal swan]

Here's a speculated recreation of how Cyrax would sound like if the Travis Scott is Cyrax rumors were true:

[coarse latch]

autotuned Cyrax

[finite mesa]

Travis Scott as Cyrax, huh?

I would love to see his cover of Sicko Mode.

I mean, if they were able to cast Megan Fox as Nitara in MK1, might as well add Travis Scott as Cyrax.

[prisma ruin]

YES thank you

[finite mesa]

So. What else is there to talk about now?

We've already discussed about possible kameo/playable fighters that are coming to MK1.

But to be honest, I don't see how Onaga could work in MK1; playability-wise that is.

It's gonna be like the whole "Ridley's too big for Smash" thing all over again.

If they could just downsize him a bit.

[coarse latch]

https://tenor.com/view/umvc3-marvel-vs-capcom-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom3-galactus-marvel-gif-21205637

It could work like this dude’s boss fight

[serene compass]

I mean... We had Tor, Goro, Hotaru,

Big guys in MK arent new.

Could do what they did with Goro and use some posing to give Onaga the illusion of being bigger.

With wings and a tail, he'd look huge.

[coarse latch]

Problem is that Onaga in the New Era is like three Reikos in height.

But…Galactus fight in Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3.

[coarse hemlock]

Onaga is a mindless dragon now

[meager moss]

I have a feeling he'll be treated as a beast but is actually secretly intelligent

Shao thinks that he can be tamed as a mindless weapon

And Onaga goes along with it just so he can be free

After which he turns on everyone, reveals he is more than just a beast and seizes Outworld as the Dragon King

[drifting spruce]

he not in the story unless I missed sumthin

[meager moss]

He's in the endings

Of some characters

[drifting spruce]

o

[proven carbon]

Did anyone else find it weird that geras has 0 fights in the story

Idk if thats happend before where a main roster character just doesnt have a fight as or against them

[jade tinsel]

RIGHT?

i very much expected him to have a chapter

espec seeing how hes a good guy and fairly important to the plot

[proven carbon]

Maybe if theres a story expansion

[restive kestrel]

I hope they do one in the future

[restive kestrel]

I mean he did do some fighting in the cutscenes

[sand sentinel]

with the way the ending was , i have no doubt

[prisma ruin]

We never even got to see him do the thing where he dies and comes back and everyone is shocked. I mean that happened at least 8 times in mk11

[icy raft]

Shang Tsung and Quan Chi get together every timeline but Liu and Kitana don't get to be happy?

[sand sentinel]

[errant valve]

did shang tsung and quan chi ever meet in 9/X/11 timeline

[hardy carbon]

Yes. They both worked for Shao Kahn and were both in the throne room here and there. Especially after Shao was presumed dead after Liu Kang punched a hole in his chest

Though I don’t recall if they have spoken to each other onscreen

[finite mesa]

I think they were saving them for 1.

[crisp gust]

I remember the deadly alliance being a story fight in mk9 and that they were both competing in simping for shao kahn

[finite mesa]

Hey.

Since MK1 is basically Deadly Alliance 2.0, MK2 should be Deception 2.0.

[crisp gust]

MK1 is all three ps2 games

If damashi shows up again in MK2 I’m gonna scream

[finite mesa]

Just like how MK9 is all the three original games packed into one?

[finite mesa]

To be fair, Damashi did return, but in the form of Titan Shang Tsung taking on the appearance of Kronika.

[prisma ruin]

Since MK1 was a rehash of MK 5-7, and we're not getting another MK vs. DCU, MK2 will be a rehash of MK9, another reboot, nice

[coarse hemlock]

geras shouldve had his own chapter defending the hourglass

[prisma ruin]

Geras, Smoke, and Kitana got the shaft

Even Shang Tsung got a chapter

[hardy carbon]

He fuckin what?

You play as Shang in story mode?

[waxen dome]

Yeah

[daring saddle]

Is Johnny's mansion tour canon?

'cause he says Cassie's already been born

https://youtu.be/DugZqpiOmm4?si=jzd6WihA3hhxjtZe&t=150

[finite mesa]

Liu Kang timeline Shang, not Titan Shang.

[hardy carbon]

So Shang hates Shang?

[finite mesa]

Well. How would you feel if your alternate timeline-self double crossed you? I think it's completely justified since (Liu Kang timeline) Shang and Quan Chi offered a temporary truce.

A temporary truce to stop Titan Shang from conquering every single timeline.

[hardy carbon]

I love how Shang is such a distrusted asshole that he hates himself lmfao

On that topic I find it absolutely hilarious how almost every single villain character hates each other and themselves in intro dialogs. Only exception is Shao and his most loyal cronies like Kollector and Reiko.

Even MK11 Shao Kahn and Mileena (quote unquote daughter), Sindel (wife) and Skarlet (also daughter) have at least one dialog where they express hate or threaten each other

[icy raft]

Is Mortal Kombat in the same universe as Minecraft?

The Outworld in Minecraft is also ruled by a Dragon King

And a war between Earthrealm and Netherrealm clearly has taken place

[finite mesa]

What's with the outlandish theories? No. Mortal Kombat and Minecraft are completely separate things.

Minecraft allows you to express your creativity and survival skills. Mortal Kombat helps you relish in gory violence and action-filled fights.

https://tenor.com/view/huge-difference-steve-terreberry-stevie-t-very-different-theyre-not-the-same-gif-17691241

[green tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

Steve for KP2 when

[craggy apex]

that's an AI voice. it's fake

[pine veldt]

What if Reiko held back in every fight so he could save his energy to fold onaga

[crisp gust]

What if Reikos the goat. The gooaatt.

[waxen dome]

Actually my excuse any time I lose now

“Yeah sorry, gotta fight onaga after this so can’t really be trying my hardest rn”

[pine veldt]

That’s what I’m saying

[hardy carbon]

Reiko confirmed strongest character, can beat Goku

[daring saddle]

Damn, I'm becoming a boomer

[finite mesa]

People this is not a drill.

We got our first look at Omni-Man and Tremor.

It makes me wonder if we're also gonna get all of the DLC kameo's on Omni-Man's release.

Tremor was the only one shown, but I see no sign of any of the other guys.

[pine veldt]

I’m assuming they’ll also release periodically

[finite mesa]

The thing is. There are six DLC fighers right?

• Omni-Man.
• Ermac.
• Peacemaker.
• Quan Chi.
• Takeda.
• Homelander.

There are only five DLC kameo's that are going to be released.

Tremor was the first one to be showcased.

Where does that leave the remaining four (Ferra, Klassic Cage, Mavado and Khameleon)?

[past marten]

What do you mean where does that leave them?

They'll most likely be revealed alongside other KP1 fighters

[finite mesa]

It's the question on how will they be released given how there's an unequal number between DLC fighters and DLC kameos.

[coarse latch]

Maybe the last DLC character to be revealed gets a previous kameo

or secret guest kameo pack

[errant valve]

imo,

[proven carbon]

I think everyones great outside of nitara tbh

as cliche as it is to dog on her

[errant valve]

there r just some moments where the yellow category feels a little underseasoned

which is odd bc i think kelly hu does great as dvorah

her li mei voice isn't bad for sure but there are times where she just sounds like she's reading instead of selling an entire new char

kenshi's va has a lot of spotty moments for me

and maybe its just the writing of his lines but the way he delivers them is kinda unflattering

but yeah the only bad job i think is nitara

everyone else is sufficient at the very least

[finite mesa]

Geez. Again with the Nitara hate?

[errant valve]

Wdym

I was rewatching the story for like the 4th time and wanted to rank the voice acting

This isn't ab Megan's shitty job in particular

[restive kestrel]

Yeah she wasn't that bad in some stuff

And to be honest, I think Megan sounded like that because of the actor strike

[proven carbon]

https://youtu.be/C3pOIDaF1Dw?si=GKd0hjicAx6cnpxl

I wish more people heard this

Especially with mk "Power ranking" shit

[proven carbon]

Mileena

Not Kitana

[coarse latch]

Would’ve been funny too

[hardy carbon]

Removed leak

[finite mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/droggo-dog-shookt-cute-dog-pom-gif-16055279

[hardy carbon]

One must imagine Geras happy

Sisyphus memes aside I think Geras is just elated to no longer be enslaved by Kronika and instead be a friend of Liu Kang

He’s most certainly less grimdark and ‘I want to fucking die’ this time

An announcement made alongside Omni-Man’s trailer

Edit: Kristober told me it is actually a leak so I’m gonna delete all that

[coarse hemlock]

so how is kitanas univers like

since there are multiple titans with their own universes why we gotta play lius only

[waxen dome]

Because he and shang’s were the main timelines, the other timelines are from the character towers in mk11

You can see kitana’s timeline if you play her character tower in mk11

[finite mesa]

Wait. If Terminator became a titan in MK11 after defeating Kronika, does that imply he didn't die when he sank into the river of blood?

[waxen dome]

Idk

I didn’t play his

But I don’t think we’ll be seeing them in mk1

[past marten]

Well, I don't think Terminator can drown to begin with

[waxen dome]

He rusted

Fr fr

[hardy carbon]

Guests aren’t canon. Never have been

[past marten]

We know that

[finite mesa]

Remember the famous thumbs up he gave in Terminator: Judgement Day ||when he sank into the lava||

I wished they do that for MK11.

[past marten]

yeah and he DIDN'T do it in the damn cutscene

[past marten]

also why spoiler a 30+ year old movie

[finite mesa]

I don't want to spoil it for those who want to watch it.

[past marten]

they had 30 years to watch that shit fam

[hardy carbon]

It would have been so easy to make him do that during the Flesh Pits stage fatality and they just didn’t

[waxen dome]

I garuntee you anyone who hasn’t seen that movie had already been spoiled by tik tok and YT

And fortnite

[finite mesa]

Well. Scorpion did the same thumbs up thing in Shaolin Monks.

[waxen dome]

Nrs copyrighted thumbs up

[hardy carbon]

Yeah but that’s an older game from back when game developers actually gave a fuck about the games they made

[past marten]

but yeah i spoke about it two weeks ago and theres an explanation below it
#general message

[waxen dome]

Oh wait I did do that tower

[hardy carbon]

It turns out that that is a leak so I just wanted to let you know you should edit that out of your message just in case

Sorry about that.

I’ve already deleted all my mentions of it

[coarse hemlock]

huh it came from a press release to content creators

now thats considered a leak?

nrs doesnt know what its doing then

[hardy carbon]

Apparently. Kristober pinged me ‘no leaks’ so I’m just making sure

[coarse hemlock]

its not a leak if it was an actual press release. but i guess its being considered as one because not everyone got it?

well whatever tho

they cant be getting mad at discussing something they themselves sent to content creators

nrs doing a lot of marketing wrong this game

[hardy carbon]

I agree.

What is even the point in sending emails to content creators with info that counts as a leak anyway?

They’re going to talk about it or make videos on it anyway. This is the internet

[hardy carbon]

How the fuck we gonna let corpos trademark bodily movements 💀

Don’t straighten your thumbs guys or you’re gonna get buried under a pile of lawsuits

[past marten]

I don't think it was trademarked. He did it in his Fatal Blow and Friendship

[hardy carbon]

But a thumbs-up while sinking in something is grounds for copyright? Nah fuck that

Copyright and trademark and intellectual property rights are going way too far it’s insane

Like that one YouTuber who complained that Fortnite “stole” his “deep dab”. And some other people who mentioned copyrighting dances. Yes let’s get angry at people and take their money for having bodies and moving them in a certain way because you moved your body that way first.

[pine veldt]

What if Shang tsung transformed into titan kitana and then got liu kang to kiss him and then was like “lol got you it was me all along”

[jade tinsel]

thats fucking smart

[waxen dome]

https://youtu.be/9ypwYIgvbu0?si=oGpIRNgK7umoX3hL 9:13 it’s been done

[errant valve]

hot

[lunar hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-jojo-anime-cartoon-japanese-gif-7432836

[finite mesa]

"You thought your kiss would be with Kitana, but it was me! SHANG TSUNG!"

[hardy carbon]

I theorised about Titan Kitana being a saboteur planted by Shang Tsung earlier but this is even more hilarious

Is it gay when Shang Tsung takes the form of a woman 🤔

[surreal sonnet]

Well he did turn into kronika

So maybe

[crisp gust]

I think it doesnt count

Which means tier list wise shang becomes S-tier waifu

Which feels wrong but hey I dont make the rules baby.

[serene compass]

Two steps ahead of you.

[hardy carbon]

I wonder if Ermac is going to be Jerrod or just all of the souls

The Kombat Pack character I mean

Maybe they’ll be all the souls but specifically Jerrod in some intros pertaining to his family

[green tangle]

Think it’s mostly going to be Ermac tbh

[green tangle]

When it was Jerrod his face changed to Jerrod’s

But it’s ermac’s face

[prisma ruin]

Yeah they won't be just Jerrod

[finite mesa]

I think there could be a gear in the game that could switch Ermac's face to Jerrod's.

And while they're add it, they could include an option to change Ermac's voice to Jerrod's.

I'm just fumed that with each new timeline created, Jerrod always has to die.

Not to mention, Scorpion and Sub-Zero need to be arch enemies; especially since they're brothers (Kuai Liang and Bi-Han) in this new timeline.

[lunar hornet]

bi-han and scorp, anyways.

I'm wondering who in the 7 hells killed Jerrod this time around, cuz I don't think it was Shao...

Does Sonya still exist? like, is she hanging out on military base somewhere?

And Johnny's mom is a cop.

what if she's this timeline's Stryker? xD

[pine veldt]

Imagine in the kp trailer Ermac had jerrod’s face that would be so funny

Everyone would lose their minds

[finite mesa]

Sonya might appear in MK2.

We have seen a lot of her variants during the Armageddon scene.

Maybe Johnny didn't meet her yet.

I'm thinking maybe in MK2, they could introduce Sonya, but she might be the new leader of the Outworld Protection Agency.

Just like in Deadly Alliance since Kenshi's arcade ending revealed that he teamed up with Jax.

[finite mesa]

Maybe he could switch in and out between the other souls and Jerrod.

Imagine if Jerrod could let another soul take over in preparation for combat.

Ermac is basically a soul vehicle. The other souls will often try their hand in taking the wheel.

But Jerrod is the most dominant one. I'm thinking he will let the other souls take control of Ermac during combat, before reverting the embodiment of souls back into his benevolent self.

[meager moss]

I like the concept that Sindel and Jerrod are basically trying to control the souls inside Ermac like a democracy

Would be interesting if other Kombatants are located inside him also

Imagine a Nightwolf from this new timeline being one of the inhabitants

[daring saddle]

No

[finite mesa]

How could Nightwolf be one of Ermac's souls? We could see him as one of the kombatants who kill you if you fail the Test Your Might.

Oh. You mean Liu Kang timeline Nightwolf, right?

[finite mesa]

I mean. Shang Tsung can shapeshift into any of the female kombatants all the way back in 1992.

If I remembered correctly, Damashi wasn't a variant of Kronika in Deception. Damashi was more of a glowing ray of light that aided Shujinko on his quest.

Heck. Geras himself even stated that Damashi is the greatest deceiver of all the realms.

[hardy carbon]

Bro why does Reiko look like Nathan Drake

Lmfao

[prisma ruin]

Good guys don't have undercuts ig

[proven carbon]

I dig the hair

[lunar hornet]

in her tower ending, she and jerrod are fighting all the other souls for control of Ermac. A democracy it isn't, but maybe that would actually work. Sit all the souls down for a meeting and discuss desires and priorities, etc. I wonder if Kenshi will have to kill ermac and take all those souls into sento if they fail...

[crisp gust]

Idk why but ermac democracy makes me laugh

I’m just imagining them in a little board room like “okay how are we feeling about walks on the beach”

[hardy carbon]

Dermacrocy

And yeah I found that interesting too

[coarse latch]

“Aight, boys, which is the best pizza topping?”
“ahem”
“Oh, yeah, Sindel’s here. And whoever else here’s a woman.”
“Anyways, it’s totally pepperoni, that’s a classic.
“Nah, it’s gotta be extra cheese.”
“Pineapple, broccoli, anchovies, grape soda and furries. In that order.”
“…”
“What the hell is wrong with you, Moe Ronnick?”

Like imagine them arguing about trivial things like the best soda flavour

[alpine rain]

So folks

Who do you think the “new initiates” mentioned at the end are?

My guesses are Kai, Nightwolf, maybe Fujin, and Special Forces dudes

[daring saddle]

That's gotta suck if they have to have a direct democracy for every single decision they gotta make

Like do they have to do some politicking to convince a majority that they should use the washroom if they gotta go?

[meager moss]

It's implied from dialogue that Kai is one of the Shaolin teachers

[prisma ruin]

I'd love to see them pair people up again like in mk1

Give me Stryker and Kabal again

Erron Black and Nightwolf

[past marten]

Tower endings are seemingly canon in this game. From what they talk about, two of them should be Hanzo, and Shujinko (young).

[timid vapor]

Not necessarily. Sure, some are canon, but I would say many of them are semi-canon, while others are ridiculously non-canon.

[fair rock]

I thought NRS confirmed that all tower endings were canon

[timid vapor]

Mk11 yeah

[fair rock]

As long as none directly contradict each other I don't see why not

[timid vapor]

Not necessarily mk1 afaik

[timid vapor]

You're saying Havik flooding the capital of Seido is believable

[fair rock]

Why is it not?

[timid vapor]

After Liu Kang literally says "The realms are in safe hands"

And rain is not a god

[fair rock]

He's descended from Gods

[timid vapor]

So he should never have been able to summon such a storm

And also

Liu Kang losing his immortality?

That's b.s.

Nowhere in the story was it ever mentioned nor hinted

[fair rock]

I haven't seen all of them yet

[timid vapor]

Plus the fact that his status or bio ingame still describes him as immortal

Directly contradicting the ending

Additionally

Mortal raiden wasn't in the final battle

It was a battle of titans

So mortal raiden shouldn't have been there

[fair rock]

He was if the player picks Raiden in chapter 15

[timid vapor]

That is a Titan Raiden from another timeline. Remember, he gets sent back to his own timeline at the end.

[fair rock]

Oh right

Although tbf

Some characters Kay be from the original timeline

Since the battle iirc takes place in titan Shang Tsung's timeline

So they would have to be sent back to their own timeline

[timid vapor]

And I'm pretty sure Liu Kang wouldn't be reckless enough to send his mortal friends to an interdimensional battle of titans

[fair rock]

I played as Mileena in chapter 15 and it was definitely not titan Mileena

Default skin and everything

[timid vapor]

Not really, cuz Liu Kang specifically mentions returning the fighter to "their own" timeline

Thus meaning it's a different one

[timid vapor]

I'm pretty certain they only changed the skins of the story bad guys so that they wouldn't be confused with them

I.e. shao, reiko, etc

[fair rock]

Well that's just lazy and confusing

Since the titan versions of characters are established to have different designs

[timid vapor]

Yeah ik

The last story chapters were rushed

Visibly rushed

[fair rock]

The entire game is rushed

[timid vapor]

The rest of the story imo is great

[fair rock]

Mostly

Bi-han being generic bad guy was dissapointing

But I guess you can't have everything

[timid vapor]

Yeah ik, but his VA killed it tho

[fair rock]

I didn't think so

[timid vapor]

"NOW, WE WILL ACHIEVE GREATNESS"

[fair rock]

It sounded like he was trying a little too hard to be noob lite

[timid vapor]

He was angy

https://tenor.com/view/phobiamp3-kitty-furios-cat-angry-gif-26396978

Fuck

[fair rock]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[timid vapor]

Anyway that's supposed to be an angy kitty gif

Sadly no angy kitty today lmao

[fair rock]

[timid vapor]

Yeee

Epico

[fair rock]

But for the most part

99% of the voice actors were great

With one outlier

One very noticeable outlier

[timid vapor]

Bro changed his pfp mid conversation 💀

[fair rock]

?

No i didn't

[timid vapor]

For me u did lmaoooo

[fair rock]

Its probably discord shitting itself

[timid vapor]

That's on my screen

[fair rock]

I have a seperate pfp for this server

Must have just loaded in

[timid vapor]

Yeah

That explains it lol, I was gonna say

Discord when they have to fix their app issues vs Discord when they have to add something new to the nitro shop

[fair rock]

I'm so glad the MK story is straying away from the GI Joe bullshit

So boring watching Cassie cage run into a room and just gun everyone down

[timid vapor]

So u mean no special forces

Which I agree with

[fair rock]

Special forces were honestly the worst thing that ever happened to the story

Just so boring

[timid vapor]

That's very interesting

Bcs

I have unironically talked to people who said they preferred special forces

And I was genuinely surprised

Like flabbergasted even

[fair rock]

Did they say why?

[timid vapor]

I didn't ask lol

[fair rock]

It's like, I'm here for a martial arts tournament and then gods fighting and realms clashing and shit

Not military drama

It'd be like if dragon ball all of a sudden made the galactic patrol the main characters for no reason

[timid vapor]

What I'm pissed about is that during the Armageddon chapter in mk1, a lot of the fights were powerless

Like

Straight up punching and kicking

And not even just Armageddon

Chapter 12 too

[fair rock]

What chapter was that?

[timid vapor]

It was a nice callback, but it was fucking stupid to have everyone to lose to Sindel

Just bcs of

[fair rock]

Oh that one

Yeah

[timid vapor]

HAHA FUNNY CALLBACK GUYS

GET IT?

NOSTALGIA?!?!?!

[fair rock]

Yeah

The problem they didn't realise is

It was stupid then

And it's stupid now

For the same reason

[timid vapor]

Also

Fucking Fire God Liu Kang gets sucker punched BY A STONE BOI

WHAT

Like WTF

[fair rock]

So

How do the canonicity of the kameos work?

[timid vapor]

Cyrax fatality the goat

[fair rock]

Obviously scorpion and sub zero aren't canonical as their Kameos

But what about Jax and Sonya

They could be running around like that

[timid vapor]

I'm assuming they're different timeline people

[fair rock]

Probably

Just a little weird because you have some characters like the aforementioned sub zero and scorpion who definitely aren't csnon

Then you have Darrius and Goro being in the actual story

And then the middle ground for some others

[timid vapor]

So maybe Hanzo and Kuai Liang from other timelines act as kameos canonically

But who knows

[timid vapor]

Also yeah

Ig in the end

Kameos are a gameplay way to put in story-wise irrelevant characters

Who don't add to the plot

And who make no sense to be there

But are bcs fans wanted them back in some form

[fair rock]

Darrius watching scorpion melt Havik's face off after he was trying just as hard to do that to scorpion

[timid vapor]

LMAOO

Also

Ik Havik should have been more burned

But also

[fair rock]

Intro dialogues say he intentionally keeps his face melted

[timid vapor]

I think they should have made his eyes white as well

So as to match the OG havik we know

And the Titan Havik

[timid vapor]

Oh yeah I'm aware

[hardy carbon]

Like the Kameo system?

[prisma ruin]

I mean in the story

Like Johnny/Kenshi and Kung Lao/Raiden

[hardy carbon]

Ah yeah

[past marten]

Well the intros confirm that happened

[coarse latch]

random cage match spoilers - ||If Jennifer Grey is Sareena, does that mean Sareena is real and there’s some secret cult in Hollywood??||

Wonder where Hotaru was.
Probably taken from Outworld by Havik so Havik can shove Oreos down the throat of Hotaru in a catboy suit as earrape Caramelldansen plays.

[timid vapor]

That canonicity of some intros is also something im questioning

Not all

But some

Cuz I think they don't fully align with a couple of endings

Meanwhile others do

[prisma ruin]

Literally in chapter 14

[prisma ruin]

Most of the kombatants at the pyramid weren't titans

Almost certainly the good guys are mk1 timeline versions. Look at Scorpion, who is still Kuai Liang and has the scar. Geras mentions that he is the first Kuai Liang to become scorpion

[finite mesa]

The question is: Will Kuai be the last?

As in, will he be the first and only Kuai Liang variant of Scorpion?

Smoke's ending did reveal that Hanzo Hasashi exists in this new timeline.

But as a young boy. Could it be that in MK2, the mantle will go to him?

Could there be a variant of Hanzo as Sub-Zero? Will there also be a Bi-Han version of Scorpion out there?

[timid vapor]

it wasn't tho

like at all

show me where u think it was said explicitly

[timid vapor]

that's... not true tho

the literal plot of the chapter is: find Titans from an infinitude of other timelines

Kitana specifically mentions it

and bringing normal people to this battle is reckless, as i have said, cuz they can easily die. Liu Kang would never do that to his new timeline friends.

[prisma ruin]

Liu Iang found 3 titans that we saw. Kung Lao said the millions in the white lotus society will help if needed. The other titans he found brought along their timeline's kombatants

Titan Shang Tsung brought his too. None of them are titans

[timid vapor]

what Kung Lao said was a simple way of developing his character and showing us that he, as a Titan, made his timeline into what he saw fit

[prisma ruin]

And almost certainly the good guys in the roster are from Liu Kang's timeline besides Liu Kang and Sindel obv

[timid vapor]

again, reused assets

mk1's ending was severely rushed

[timid vapor]

then why are they being sent back to "their own" timelines?

and not return with Liu Kang?

[prisma ruin]

I don't disagree with that but there's plenty of evidence that points to not everyone being titans

[prisma ruin]

That's semantics

None of the kombatants on Liu Kang's side are from that timeline

All the good guys are wearing their default outfits which are pretty exclusive to the mk1 versions. The exception is Johnny who was wearing what we saw him wear in chapter 13

[timid vapor]

which is why mortal raiden would have never found out about god raiden. because the tower ending is the mortal raiden's ending from this exact timeline.

[prisma ruin]

What do you mean

[timid vapor]

u said "that timeline"

[prisma ruin]

Yeah

[timid vapor]

by that timeline do u refer to Liu Kang's?

[prisma ruin]

I'm talking about the pyramid fight

[timid vapor]

same

[prisma ruin]

That's not in Liu Kang's timeline

The timeline collapses at the end

It's Titan Shang's timeline

[timid vapor]

nobody is talking about shang's timeline

[prisma ruin]

Yes we are

[timid vapor]

no we arent

[prisma ruin]

Well I am

That's where chapter 15 takes place

[timid vapor]

i was talking about literally every other one

[timid vapor]

from where liu kang recruits his allies

[prisma ruin]

All the playable characters are alien to Titan Shang's timeline

[timid vapor]

yes

correct

[prisma ruin]

So they would obviously have to go back to their own timeline

That includes the MK1 characters

[timid vapor]

then they would go back with Liu kang

[prisma ruin]

Liu Kang sent them back, he didn't go with them, he went later

[timid vapor]

liu kang wouldnt have to go through that effort to send them back to their timeline if it wasnt a different one

[prisma ruin]

Yes because they're not in their timeline

[timid vapor]

he literally says "may we meet again"

[prisma ruin]

And they do if it's the mk1 kombatants

[timid vapor]

no it's not BRUH

what if it's Johnny?

or Kung Lao?

[prisma ruin]

Same thing

[timid vapor]

they literally meet the NEXT SCENE

if that's the case

which is silly

[prisma ruin]

Yeah but there's no indication of how long the time has passed or if Liu kang even knew if he would be able to return himself

It's the next scene for us

It's not literally seconds later

[timid vapor]

it is tho LMAO

the timeline is collapsing

u think liu kang is just gonna sunbathe?

and drink a cocktail?

[prisma ruin]

He has to send his other kombatants back

[timid vapor]

"yeah i've got time"

[prisma ruin]

The playable one was only the first

[timid vapor]

"lemme drink my smoothie first"

[prisma ruin]

All right if you're gonna argue in bad faith then I'm wasting my time

[timid vapor]

that still wouldnt take a lot

[timid vapor]

im arguing logically, but when i do that u call it "semantics"

and at this point

im tired too

whatever goes on in that scene is very easy to figure out

i personally do not believe it would be very logical or rational by liu kang to use his own vulnerable mortal friends in an interdimensional battle of almighty titans and that's without additional evidence brought forth by the scenes and dialogues

[hardy carbon]

Friendly reminder that if Shao didn’t stop him, Scorpion would have absolutely game-ended Bi-Han while bound in chains

Some Grandmaster

[serene compass]

Scorpion
Kollector

It's like restraining characters makes them stronger

[daring saddle]

I agree with Mokap

Not everyone was a titan in the final battle

Besides all the neutral and evil characters, all the good characters must've come from LK's timeline

It makes more sense narratively than to suddenly play a variation of the character we saw

[finite mesa]

I wonder if Mokap (the character) could be a DLC fighter/kameo in MK1.

IMO, he should be a kameo.

[timid vapor]

I understand what you are referring to, but again I ask: why would Liu Kang send mortals against incredibly powerful immortal beings?

Liu Kang even has a line about this

In one of the earlier chapters

"I would never send my champions unwittingly into kombat" or something like that

No matter how well prepared they are, they can't hope to match the powers of Titans.

And again I say, the fact that the good guys look like the normal good guys is very likely because of rushed development.

It still makes some sense to see them in the same clothes

But it makes no sense to see those like good Shao or Reiko in normal costumes

Which is why they gave them different costumes

@daring saddle also great nickname btw

[daring saddle]

LK lies and omits things on purpose like how Raiden's amulet was "forged by the Elder Gods" despite never seeing them
The context of when he said that was that no tournament participate has ever been grievously injured or killed, so he's effectively sending champions to a friendly sparring tournament
I think the circumstances of the Armageddon fight necessitates an exception since it concerns the threats of all non-evil ST-affiliated timelines, but nothing to suggest this

For an even playing field, evil ST's allies would also have to be a mix of titans and regulars

I wonder if NRS will clarify this in a future interview, it kinda bugs me

[timid vapor]

No matter if he lies or not in those few cases, he does the best he can to protect and safeguard their futures. Had it not been for the crisis, he'd have continued the lie about his identity and everything else so that their destinies remain unaffected.

And his amulet most likely was forged by the elder gods

Cuz he still technically has his own lightning powers, as presented by the ingame character elements

Which are both fire and thunder

And honestly it makes sense for Liu Kang to not use his thunder in a game where Raiden exists as a playable character

Both in terms of gameplay reasons

And storywise (he wants mortal Raiden to shine in his own thing) cuz Raiden is associated with thunder

Like, it wouldn't really be like Liu Kang to go "Here have this amulet which lets you use the power of thunder... but also guess what I'm actually the god of thunder too!"

[timid vapor]

Ye same here

I hope they clarify multiple things actually

Cuz the ending was not that smooth

[timid vapor]

Btw in Raiden's ending, isn't it the evil timeline Shao who almost kills him? He's wearing the same costume. But we know that Shao is dead, so it either means that is a Titan Shao and the costumes make little to no difference, or that's an overall continuity error.

And whichever one it is

It makes the validity of the ending for me questionable

[daring saddle]

They have the same costume, but Raiden's Shao is using a different axe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgj-7ga7u1A&t=03h04m47s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuno3kmCEIM

Raiden says "were it not for my godly counterpart", so that's a hint the fighters LK brought over were a mix of titans and other regulars including from his own timeline

[pine veldt]

Kuai Liang: Shoves havik’s face into a a pot of molten metal

Darrius:

[prisma ruin]

I forget, was it mentioned in the new timeline when Liu Kang and King Jerrod began the Mortal Kombat tournament? And when The Great Kung Lao fought in it? And when Jerrod was killed?

[lunar hornet]

it doesn't really specify, but it felt like Jerrod's death was somewhat recent. Like within the past few years or decade. Hard to say with Edenian lifespan.

[hardy carbon]

I always hated it when fantasy settings have different races with vastly different lifespans

Fuck human life is bad enough with people you hate living 80 years on average lmfao imagine having to tolerate someone for hundreds of thousands of years

[finite mesa]

Okay here's the thing.

You know how in arcade mode, there's a scene where your character and kameo beat the ever living shit out of Shang Tsung and Quan Chi?

I don't know how it's going to work for someone like Ferra since she's confirmed to be in the game as kameo.

Will NRS go and age her up a bit so that she can beat the ever living shit out of Quan Chi?

IIRC, it worked for kameos like Goro and Motaro since you could actually see them beat Quan Chi to a bloody pulp.

[pine veldt]

Who says a kid can’t beat tf out of quan chi

[hardy carbon]

They shrink down the taller characters like Shao, Kotal, Goro, and Sheeva in Fatalities (MKX and MK11) so they'll probably size up Ferra too - or, alternatively, give her a completely different animation.

[orchid yew]

hey, i was thinking of something and idk if i am being dumb

so every character from og timeline beat kronika and transform into a titan?

i honestly got really confused in the mk1 ending

[finite mesa]

Yeah. Basically.

They got a hold of the hourglass after beating her in 11.

Including a lot of the guest characters like Terminator and Rambo.

They can rewrite anything with the hourglass and I think they've all gone rogue.

It's a good thing Liu Kang decided to relinquish his hourglass duties to Geras.

Since he didn't want to be corrupted like Kronika.

[orchid yew]

so basically all arcade mk11 endings are canon lol

[finite mesa]

I'm not sure.

But it could be possible.

[timid vapor]

Those which don't contradict with mk1

So yeah

But for example Liu Kang's isn't really cuz obv he won in the main story

So it's different

[orchid yew]

thats kinda curious, i mean, every alive character from og timeline still exist in a sort of unique way

[orchid yew]

there's that

[timid vapor]

By og timeline, do u mean the previous one or the first one?

[timid vapor]

Ye cuz like in his arcade ending he becomes an Elder God and everything

Which obv isn't the case here in mk1

[finite mesa]

I actually love Liu Kang's development throughout the games. He went from Earthrealm's champion to Earthrealm's Elder God and protector.

[timid vapor]

Also a Titan lol

And then he wasn't

And now he is again

[finite mesa]

But he did relinquish control of the hourglass over to Geras.

[timid vapor]

Not yet tho I think. And even if he did, he still has his Titan powers.

Plus as I was arguing at one point, I don't think all endings are completely canonical.

But hey that's just a theory

A game theory (kill me)

[orchid yew]

[orchid yew]

the previous one

i am new in the story, dont know much about the first one

i thought the mk9-11 timeline had a similar story to the old games 😰

[timid vapor]

Ah ok, cuz people usually refer the the first timeline as the og timeline

[timid vapor]

The first one was crazy in its own way

[timid vapor]

Some story beats are the same in mk9 for example, but a huge ton is different

But dw about it lol, there's plenty of content you can find to learn more about the og timeline if u want

Youtube lore videos and the wiki to begin with

[prisma ruin]

There's no Titan Jacqui or Erron Black tho

Or Terminator

[pine veldt]

Does that technically make all of mk11’s tower endings canon

[past marten]

yes

[past marten]

they didn't go rogue, they were all on Liu Kangs side at the pyramid

[finite mesa]

Terminator is out there, drowning in the endless torrents of the sea of blood in MK11.

He got a hold of the hourglass and he decided to create a world where humans and machines co-existed after endless attempts at doing so.

I don't know if he could die or not, either because he became a Titan or the fact that he's an android.

[finite mesa]

Titan Erron Black would sound so cool.

A gunslinger Titan would've been interesting to see.

[serene compass]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-finger-gun-dbz-super-finger-bang-gif-20008743

I imagine either this, or he'd be a Destiny character.

[finite mesa]

That will be awesome.

[serene compass]

Everyone gangsta till Erron pulls out the Halo sword and closes in from full screen

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-2-eager-edge-other-half-death-funny-gif-10139954198217789063

[fair rock]

Literally just one of his variations from MKX

[hardy carbon]

Shooting rays of time magic or time magic infused projectiles is exhibited by several characters so I wouldn’t be surprised if raw temporal energy is shot with finger guns

Kronika obviously does it, Geras does it (but he’s the only one to do it without directly interacting with the hourglass first) Liu Kang does it, Shang Tsung does it, and Snowblind spoiler ||Kano|| does it

Remember when Erron had those weird-ass sand grenades?

[green tangle]

im still baffled that kameo goro has a better w/l against actual roster characters than shao in this game

shao is like 0-5 gets beat by raiden, reptile, scorpion, sindel, shang, maybe even someone else

goro beat johnny and kung lao

[prisma ruin]

I mean he sucker punched Johnny

[green tangle]

normally that wouldnt count but shao attacked scorpion from behind and still lost so i might have to count it

[somber turret]

yeah but shao got an actual fight outta that

goro just sucker punched two normal humans after a bunch of fighting they had done pretty much all day by that point

that and he got immediately packed when they fought later

[green tangle]

hmm not sure i remember goro being anywhere else

only reason shao got a fight out of it is because with the element of surprise he decided to yell "HURRAH" before trying to surprise the ninja

[vocal swan]

Did Goro and Motaro sided with Shao Khan in the end or was he just following his orders because he thought he was good at the time?

[pine veldt]

Anyone else felt like the survive node was harder than the actual titan battle

[hardy carbon]

Havik’s body has to be weak asf

People joke that he must be made out of paper mache but I seriously believe that he is

Like the way he destroys his own body so effortlessly and the damage he takes

In the pre-fight animation for example if he gets hit his guts fall out and he puts himself back together. Every other character is barely damaged if not completely undamaged (Nitara’s blood nose, Johnny just getting his glasses broken, Smoke teleporting to rebalance himself) but he literally falls apart

And how he can rip his own arm off, chest open, heart out, snap off his jaw, etc

My question is whether he feels pain when he mutilates himself. He does feel pain when others injure him (face dunk in the molten metal, screaming in agony afterwards) but he doesn’t so much as flinch tearing himself apart.

[prisma ruin]

They both can be cheesed with items/relics

[lunar hornet]

then they would have had to let the umgadi compete as well.

[past marten]

why?

[timid vapor]

Liu kang also used temporal stuff when he erased Shang Tsung ig without the hourglass

In the end of mk1 chapter 15

[hardy carbon]

I listed Liu Kang yeah

oh actually no Liu Kang draws from the Hourglass before blasting Shang

If I remember correctly

[timid vapor]

In mk1 he doesnt

When he says

[hardy carbon]

Oh MK1 sorry I thought we were still talking MK11

[timid vapor]

"Allow me"

Nah lol

U good

[hardy carbon]

Though in that case Liu Kang is now a Titan and the Keeper of Time just like Kronika.

[timid vapor]

Ye

Indeed

[hardy carbon]

He's clearly better than Kronika at it too lmfao

[timid vapor]

One of the reasons why

Is bcs...

He got the drip

[hardy carbon]

Man spent all these timelines honing his drip

absolute mad lad

[timid vapor]

Real and true

Also im curious

In the final battle in mk1

Why didn't Liu Kang just float to the top?

Cuz he can fly

But I mean obv they had to put the fights in

So ig that's a reason

Still it's pretty funny to think about

[hardy carbon]

He can't fly when The Almighty Plot™️ is happening

[green tangle]

You could see this as Havik just being so strong that his body can’t keep up with his strength

Reminds me a bit of Gremmy in Bleach
Where he fails because he couldn’t imagine a body that could contain enough power to beat Kenpachi, so his own falls apart

[pine veldt]

Yeah no I found out I could use specials and dive kicked my way through the whole thing

[alpine rain]

Sektor

Seems like Sektor and Cyrax will be wearing mech suits rather than being full robots

If they show up

[prisma ruin]

Yeah they're iron man/woman now

[hardy carbon]

I did think about him being too strong for his own good but if he was so insanely strong that he can destroy himself he would have had no trouble dunking Kuai Liang in the pot of molten metal.

Like even a shadow kick from Johnny, which is arguably the least damaging intro, will make Havik drop all his guts in the pre-fight animation.

And I do understand that they wouldn’t just give everyone different animations depending on who they’re hitting or being hit by but it doesn’t really change much

[crisp gust]

Yeah I ended up choosing a character i never play and boosting their health stat

And then it was just press block and chill

[prisma ruin]

I just used the item that negates projectiles

[crisp gust]

Well shit.

Thats what I get for not engaging at all with Invasions systems

[finite mesa]

That would be cool since Sektor is shown to have gone the steampunk route.

As seen in the picture.

It's about time that steampunk technology is introduced into Mortal Kombat.

Much like how Erron Black was the first cowboy in the franchise.

[green tangle]

I mean Kuai was just on another power level that chapter

[prisma ruin]

That's not Sektor

[green tangle]

He beat like 5 shoulders while cuffed, was beating Shao while cuffed, beat Shao, Shang, Havik, and Rain who uses water
And still beat Sub Zero after all that

Overpowering extremely strong people is all scorpion did that chapter

[finite mesa]

Then who is it then?

[prisma ruin]

Not Sektor

[proven carbon]

https://youtu.be/RfP5qNa4qGY?si=BnOT66hab0IEiWhp

[hardy carbon]

Oh yeah I definitely believe he would have killed Bi-Han if Shao wasn’t there to stop him.

We would have gotten Noob Saibot in the base roster of this very game, real shit

[hardy carbon]

Does MK1 Sindel have the same VA as MK11?

Also Frost

[past marten]

Yes

[hardy carbon]

Nice

[past marten]

Idk about Frost but they sound similar

[hardy carbon]

Sindel’s VA does a good job

[past marten]

Kinda hard to tell because Frost doesn't speak in 1

[hardy carbon]

And I think they recycled some lines and cries from MK11

[past marten]

Yea the Sindel VA is amazing

[hardy carbon]

Frost definitely has the same effort grunts from MK11, and as a matter of fact Johnny does too

He screams the same way during fatalities and FBs

But I could be wrong and they could have been re-records and not recycled that sound exactly the same as before

[past marten]

I mean I wouldn't be surprised if they were resued assets

[lunar hornet]

it's still the same VA in both games, right?

[finite mesa]

Don't forget Vic Chao and Noshir Dalal. Their screams sound almost agonising during a fatality.

Particularly Dalal. He didn't need to put that much effort to emphasise pain and agony, but he did.

Chao is on the same level as Dalal in terms of agonising screams and howls.

[past marten]

who do they voice as?

[finite mesa]

Chao = Kenshi.
Dalal = Rain.

[past marten]

ah

[finite mesa]

Nitara also has agonising screams, but they're not provided by Megan Fox.

Her screams and grunts are courtesy of voice actress, Cristina Vee.

Look. I'm fairly neutral when it comes to Megan Fox and Nitara; both as a voice actress and character respectively.

I think NRS agreed that Megan wasn't really giving it her all when voicing Nitara, especially since she also starred in a vampire-related movie, Jennifer's Body.

[green tangle]

It’s a weird situation because it’s not only the voice but it sounds like it was poorly mixed with the rest of the audio tbh
Like idk if she used a different type of mic or what

But also the fact that Nitara doesn’t have lines for the second half of the story….and all she does is hiss which is Christina Vee’s audio

I don’t think they were happy with how she was doing either

[pine veldt]

It feels like there was a lack of direction with the voice acting for Megan Fox

Like they didn’t know how to use her voice

So they were just like ok just talk we’ll see where it takes us

[green tangle]

And didn’t bother to correct her because it’s Megan Fox

I feel like there’s other celebrity actresses they could’ve asked tbh

[restive kestrel]

I honestly feel bad for Megan

[finite mesa]

Yeah.

I mean, her acting is kinda questionable, but she never deserved all this heated backlash.

That's why I asked you guys on whether or not you truly hate her.

Like a lot.

And the responses were kinda mixed because you guys keep saying that you don't hate Megan Fox.

In fact, I never once saw anyone directly complain or lament about their hatred towards this actress.

All she did was do a mediocre (okay at best and questionable at worst) job at voicing one of the most underrated MK characters to date and all of a sudden, you're just forming an angry and spiteful mob against her?

Like this?

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpson-people-power-gif-8939538

[restive kestrel]

Yeah that's very weird

[finite mesa]

I mean, Mortal Kombat is controversial due to its intense violence and gore, but this was what ticked people off?

Ticked people off so badly?

It's just an actress doing a mediocre job voicing a nostalgic character, calm your jets down.

[green tangle]

I mean of course I don’t hate Megan Fox, I just think it was a bad decision to choose her, the voice direction was bad, and the mixing was off for some reason

I don’t hate the actress herself, and it’s probably just disappointment for people rather than being mad about it

It was a character that hasn’t been seen or heard much for about 2 decades now so it’s a pretty big deal
For it to turn into a Ronda situation is really unfortunate, to no real fault towards Megan

[pine veldt]

Tbh I don’t think the voice acting is terrible but it’s definitely the weakest

She sounds pretty okay in most intros some of them just stand out a lot

[green tangle]

Yeah there’s ones that sound alright

I just think it’s the standards of VA’s in this game are very high too

So it does still sound out of place most of the time

If I could choose a new VA for Nitara tho

[restive kestrel]

Yeah I feel like they might have rushed her with those lines

[green tangle]

Shawnee Smith would have absolutely killed it

[restive kestrel]

And people just hating on her for no reason and never stopped to think about it

Also I think Megan was trying to make Nitara sound like a succubus

[prisma ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-wwdits-nadja-monster-im-not-a-total-monster-gif-17726072

Should have been her

[pine veldt]

I think Travis Scott would’ve been the better choice

[restive kestrel]

Did we ever find out who he was going to voice?

[jade tinsel]

TRUE

[daring saddle]

No one hates Megan Fox

But her VA work was objectively bad here

[restive kestrel]

I don't know about the first part honestly. I've seen some people say, "Because she's Megan Fox. What did you expect from her?"

[finite mesa]

It's kinda like the whole Dimitri Vegas thing all over again.

It sounded like a robot speaking in the mike.

Vegas I mean.

[fair rock]

I have no idea what your point is

If you don't have a problem with simulated violence (which if you play the game you wouldn't) you're not allowed to be annoyed by poor quality voice acting?

[prisma ruin]

What a weird take. Where's the logic lol

[daring saddle]

Some people blow things out of proportion over the internet

I'd imagine most people would find it jarring and then go about their day

Hopefully they get the feedback for next games that players expect better perf from celebrity actors/actresses

[finite mesa]

Look on the bright side.

JK Simmons is returning as Omni-Man for MK1 and Invincible S2.

Let's just hope it'll be the same for Homelander and Peacemaker, though.

[prisma ruin]

hmm

[jade tinsel]

my favorite jk simmons character gotta be homelander

[pine veldt]

Why is he called Homelander if he can fly …

[jade tinsel]

bc hes really good at landing too

[finite mesa]

Oh. Sorry.

I meant Omni-Man.

[finite mesa]

Because he can land in his home whenever he flies.

[icy raft]

Mileena's voice should be best, her voice actress also voices Kitana but manages to sound different when doing Mileena's normal voice, and then she's able to do Tarkat Mileena's voice really well too

[pine veldt]

There was a intro where Johnny Cage asks for ermac’s pronouns and Ermac has no clue what he’s talking about

I hope it’s real

Cause that would be really funny

[pine veldt]

||I love how Omni Man’s ending connects seasons 1 and 2 of invincible||

[prisma ruin]

It's the first time we got a classic "what if they won" ending in mk1

Obviously that would happen with a guest character's ending but it's funny that this is the first

[alpine rain]

Fellas

Can you choose Omniman in the Armageddon chapter?

[fair rock]

No

[pine veldt]

It’s hard to tell if it’s canon or not bc it seems so realistic

[prisma ruin]

? It directly contradicts the story

[pine veldt]

Well yea but

For Omni man at least

Ok yeah it makes less sense now

[finite mesa]

That sucks honestly.

I really want to see how the other characters could interact with him.

Liu Kang's obligatory: "And they called me the chosen one." line.

[waxen dome]

Bro look at all the Geras

[finite mesa]

Why are there so many Geras variants here?

[waxen dome]

It’s all the same

Because copy/paste jobs are easy

[hardy carbon]

What you got there Mileena?

Must be a suppressant for Tarkat maybe?

Can't get a good look at the syringe to tell whether it's Earthrealm medical tech or Shang Tsung's gear

[past marten]

iirc shang used a syringe like that to supress the effects in story

[hardy carbon]

Aye

I wonder if they reverse engineered it, or if she's running on a limited supply

Surely Earthrealm would be able to study and reverse engineer Shang's Tarkat suppressant. They have the tech. And Outworld could have the resources to actually make it.

[onyx reef]

and shangs lab wasn't completely destroyed

[hardy carbon]

Nice

The fam grabbed themselves a PS5 with MK1 so, if not for playing online because fuck Sony and fuck subscription based multiplayer, I'd at least play through the story so I know more of what I'm talking about

But I kind of don't want to play the PS5 itself outside of CODMW3 as a favour for my brother in law. Getting the levels up so that he can actually play the fucken game at all

[brazen fog]

Can somebody figure out what HBtW is saying here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNCPNZFYIg&t=175s

How did he confirm this information?

[coarse hemlock]

I think it's part theory and going off the fact that the game already states theres infinite timeline possibilities

[icy raft]

did the soviet win the cold war in liu kang's new era

[brazen fog]

Was there a Holocaust, slavery, colonialism, Crusades in Liu Kang's era?

[waxen dome]

I don’t see why they would cover that in a video game campaign

[brazen fog]

They already did in Jax' ending in MK11

Which kinda opens the whole can of worms

Correspondence of characters from the Mortal Kombat lore with fighter names, updated:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSFPvrbqdLrrb2ZpV4uWmGs1HcJ4byHsTAgPLZW-hUAWx4jhi4DJ_F0f1KdJHSP9u9ul_qpBHYc12Vy/pubhtml?gid=523056564&single=true

[onyx reef]

colonialism is confirmed

by johnny cage being americsn

american

[prisma ruin]

Jax erased slavery in his mk11 ending lol

[pine veldt]

What if liu kang did the same

[daring saddle]

Does LK pay his Shaolin monks a wage at his school

And did Raiden before or did they both think champions of Earthrealm just volunteer the whole time

[onyx reef]

they do it for exposure

[pine veldt]

Do MK characters have canon events

Like does kenshi get blinded in every timeline

[waxen dome]

Yes

Smokes parents

It’s in his intro with liu

[pine veldt]

Scorpions canon event is harumi’s death

But I don’t think that sub zero will kill her

[waxen dome]

That was the plot of last invasions season

[pine veldt]

Yea

[craggy apex]

god i hate the term canon event. spiderverse has destroyed timeline discussions forever

[jade tinsel]

wasnt canon event just a thing one guy said in the movie

i do physically cringe when people bring up canon events tho LOL

[craggy apex]

yeah

[prisma ruin]

agreed

[coarse latch]

“B-but canon events”
“dude, who cares, infinite timelines infinite possibilities”
“but-“
“there’s prob a timeline where I shoot you in the face right now if you finish that sentence”

[pine veldt]

I just like the idea that in every timeline there’s one thing that’ll always happen no matter what

[craggy apex]

thats stupid and ruins the whole point

[pine veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-gif-20184012

[coarse latch]

Kobra’s eyes then flood the room Richard is in.
The door is locked.

https://tenor.com/view/drown-gif-19490670

[pine veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-shower-guy-crying-in-shower-guts-theme-sadness-gif-22111507

[proven carbon]

Revive

Please keep story spoilers here, thank you!

[granite minnow]

Hiii

[sand sentinel]

Hi

[finite mesa]

Never thought to be back here again.

[craggy apex]

Did they actually fucking put Bi Han and Sektor together?

[tired remnant]

Yea

[craggy apex]

I think Dom needs to be killed

[robust nymph]

pffft omfg

[craggy vector]

It makes alot of sense because of the way Sektor was acting when Bi-Han was in danger

[craggy apex]

I hate it. Bi-Han belongs with Sareena

[craggy vector]

Ik but she's a kameo

[barren robin]

Someone told me that Smoke and Reptile died but that was a lie

This story wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be

Part 1 was the worst story in all of MK

0/10 for part 1

Part 2 was good until the end

Noob Saibot beating Titan Havik? BRO 💀

And I thought Noob died at the end but he's still alive.

Part 2 gets a 6/10

[tired remnant]

Wyd if the gang pull up

@sand sentinel better? I put it in here now sooo that nobody can see it in the general

[golden grove]

im gonna cry what did they do to my boy bi-han

[waxen dome]

He looks pretty cool

[dusk gust]

Well who did you want to beat him?

[barren robin]

Titan Liu. A titan should not lose against someone like Noob Saibot or one of Shang's lackies. Noob Saibot is one of my favorite characters but him beating Titan Havik was unexpected. I like it but I hate it at the same time.

[dusk gust]

1. He already beat the last 2 villains. It would be kinda stale for him to beat the main bad guy again.
2. As Noob said before the fight, he knew everything about how Havik fights. He could easily counter most of Havik's attacks.
   That isn't to say the fight was easy for him, but it definitely was possible.

[tired remnant]

He looks sick actually

[golden grove]

no like in the story

https://tenor.com/view/shang-tsung-mk1-mortal-kombat-tired-sleepy-gif-13098785653979218488

[civic dome]

Are they together together? All I saw in the story mode was them like rest their foreheads together after getting rescued which feels like a brothers in arms type thing to me, but I haven't looked at all the match dialog yet.

Also y'all they finally gave us a happy Rain and immediatly took him away from us

[vocal swan]

Did Geras got any Fights or Kameo roles in one of the fights in the story?

[civic dome]

Not in the fights sadly

Only old characters who got chapters were Rain and Tanya.

[coarse latch]

ya know that khaos preacher dude, right?
if ya think bout it, his speech is kinda a paradox

it’s talking bout “being told what to do stinks” but like
isn’t he doing the same thing by telling people to worship Havik

That’s telling you what to do
How to worship
How to think

[civic dome]

BiHan pointed it out, Havik is a hypocrit

He doesn't like real chaos. Just manufactured garbo

[last scarab]

how you guys liking khaos reigns?

[finite mesa]

Soon. She will be a playable character. We can only pray.

If they were able to add the older skins into MK1, then surely we could have Sareena as a playable DLC fighter.

[finite mesa]

Especially with the face when Bi-Han jumped into the portal.

[tired remnant]

It is good, it felt a little bit rushed but still good

[last scarab]

personally it felt a bit messy

like lots of things felt wrong but I can't pinpoint what

i liked the Rain and Tanya subplot tho, idk what happened but the cutscene render felt so realistic

[civic dome]

Yeah I really think they could have used another couple chapters.

I was actually shocked we didn't get Takeda, Ermac, and Quan Chi chapters. Aftermath brought in all KP1 and Kp2 didn't it?

[alpine rain]

Story was fun but

It ended kinda abruptly?

Like I’m confused
What happened with Havik

Did Liu Kang capture him
Somehow?

[civic dome]

Yeah.

That's exactly how I felt

Like I guess Bi Han ripped him apart but also thats the guys whole thing so ehhh?

Like we've already seen regular people can beat super powered titans so I don't mind that but like Havik specifically does the whole getting ripped apart thing

[alpine rain]

They just kinda cut away and left it ambiguous and focused entirely on the Lin Kuei after that and I was just thinking “but wait! What happened with Havik?!”

[civic dome]

At least freeze him?

[alpine rain]

R.I.P. Emperor Rain he was so badass

[civic dome]

Yeah for a Havik storyline it was way to Lin Kuei heavy

[alpine rain]

Honestly that design works really well with his whole water mage thing

[civic dome]

YES

Also he had demigod eyes

So he was full on protector of Edenia I think

[alpine rain]

Ye

Empress might be my favorite Tanya design too

[civic dome]

Yeah. Bar is on the floor there for me though.

Though I loved her scene with Orin.

And Kenshi not understanding the language made me chuckle

[past marten]

so like

why didn't rain just turn into water in that one scene where he died

Can't he do that

[robust nymph]

No, magic is forbidden in story mode

Only h2h combat

[craggy vector]

Exactly

[craggy vector]

Sareena as a playable character would be cool as hell

[barren robin]

Still didn't like how it ended

[craggy vector]

Why did you spoil that for me
I didn't finish Part 2 yet 💀

[barren robin]

Why are you in this channel if you haven't finished it?

[craggy vector]

You have to got understand
I'm a little acoustic

[craggy vector]

I'm finna steal that

Jk

[civic dome]

He was holding the walls open for the others. Sektor physically removes Tanya and then it collapses immediately. There wouldn't have been time.

Counter question. Why the heck does killing the titan now cause the timeline to collapse.

We killed Kronika and everything seemed fine. Unless it's specifically because we were at the hourglass.

[tired remnant]

lol

you can keep it as a meme if you want to

[craggy vector]

Thanks

[dusk gust]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-anger-angry-smash-monke-gif-26758025

[coarse hemlock]

that story was so bad

literally AI can generate a better story

[craggy vector]

Lol

[barren robin]

I think the story was mid. It was 20 times better than Part 1 though. Part 1 is the worst MK story ever in my opinion.

[civic dome]

That was X

Tbf chapters 1-12 were great. It was the ending of Mk1 that sucked

Post 'damashi'

[vocal swan]

Is Longwei the name of OG Sektor?

[modern valley]

Hi

[glad hazel]

@modern valley I set your AFK: AFK

[last scarab]

I won

[languid cipher]

When Noob said havik perfected him, he must’ve meant a double flawless victory cuz ain’t no way Bi Han is tryna flex shit after the hearty serving of kickass he kept receiving in the story

We saw this mf titan tear his limbs off to make klones of himself and how does noob defeat him? Tearing him limb from limb. His whole shtick. What a fucking dumbass. Then he gets Doomguy tombed until next the story needs him. Fucking loser

[alpine rain]

My guess is Noob used Havik’s own chaos magic to counter his regeneration but I don’t even know

I don’t like how they immediately cut away from Havik and never address him again right after

Like we don’t even get an explanation of what happened like? Did Liu Kang capture him somehow? What happened?
They only focus on the Lin Kuei members (well, one is now Shirai Ryu) at the very end

[last scarab]

Fire god liu kang kameo

[languid cipher]

kameo when he was the uber of the group is crazy

/j

[last scarab]

Im pretending to lose

[coarse hemlock]

This is just speculation based on the ending:

||Liu didn’t kill havik. He will be an ally when orderrealm invades.||

[last scarab]

Real

[craggy apex]

Sareena needs to come get her man

[languid cipher]

^ Deadass

[last scarab]

Sektor doing bi han's role in mk mythologies

[craggy apex]

Bi-Han shouldn’t let his girlfriend get in the way of meeting his wife

[tired remnant]

There was a Khaos Sub-Zero in the story mode

Sooo if he is in there, then why didn’t Havik use that Sub-Zero to have him become Noob Saibot instead of the Sub-Zero from the New Era soo that way we can have 2 Bi-Hans on the roster from 2 different timelines

[last scarab]

Probably bi han fought better than chaos bi han

[tired remnant]

but it would make sense to have the Khaos Bi-Han from Havik's timeline to be Noob Saibot, maybe Havik can make him fight better than New Era Sub-Zero

So what if Noob Saibot is actually Khaos Bi-Han that is from Havik's timeline? That means that we can have 2 Bi-Hans on the playable roster from 2 different timelines

I think it would make sense

[tired remnant]

What if we actually get a third Story Expansion that is solely based on Shao's timeline?

his timeline would be kinda similar to let's say OG MK2 and MK3

idk

they might not do another story expansion again and just do KP3

[last scarab]

But havik is the type of guy to make no sense

Also fire god liu kang trained bi han , so this bi han would be powerful

[last scarab]

That would be interesting

[finite mesa]

Originally I was planning on having Onaga be the main antagonist of the second story expansion, but I decided it would be too good; save it for the thirteenth game.

[tired remnant]

He could be in there next game

But who knows, I predict they add him as a pre order bonus in the next game

[warm tide]

I kind of wish There was a final cutscene of Bi Han waking up and escaping through a portal

[tired remnant]

Now that would be splendid

Bi Han would be dreaming the whole time

“No no no it’s ok, he never actually was corrupted, he was just dreaming of being noob”

[craggy apex]

“You blame me for you actions?” Yes. Cause you’re to blame. You even said Cyrax and Sektor’s loyalty to Bi-Han is absolutely and didn’t even try to reach out