Let's welcome Chaos
#Havik
azure ingot
keen crest
He definitely seems to be more serious, not at all the goofy character he used to be.
' And Havik is an anarchist rebel from the oppressive realm of Seido, intent on taking down his world’s regime while leveraging a unique limb-tearing fighting style. '
Hmm
He's actually from the realm of order
Hmm, he could actually be Dairou
We'll see in story mode, or if he has a tombstone drop
earnest vapor
or havik sneaked in from chaosrealm to seido
his twisted body and limbs is inherently a power of Chaosrealm
Native Realm Species
The native species of Chaosrealm are known as Chaosrealmers. Chaosrealmers are humanoid in form and come across as dangerous, primitive, and menacing. Some bear tattoos, strange markings or even more extreme expressions of their ultimate individualism, such as Havik's maimed face or his ability to twist his own bones and muscles in ways that would be lethal to any normal human.
azure wing
source?
keen crest
or havik sneaked in from chaosrealm to seido
Probably not, the trailer is called 'Banished' because all three of these characters are ostracized within their realms/people.
Reptile is shunned by his people, Ashara is shunned by hers for purging the demon out, Havik seems to be the same here
azure wing
' And Havik is an anarchist rebel from the oppressive realm of Seido, intent on ...
wasn't this Darrius' goal tho?
he was a seido traitor
keen crest
wasn't this Darrius' goal tho?
he was a seido traitor
Yeah, it is.
Though, Havik here most likely is not Darrius. I mean, I doubt they would change Darrius' race. So either Darrius has a different path in this timeline, or possibly Havik works with Darrius.
azure wing
Havik is havik
he's not any particular person
he ain't hanzo, dairou, or darrius either
he's just
Havik
no secondary identity
keen crest
' and is heralded as a hero by the populace of the Chaosrealm, where he has formed an alliance with the revolutionary Darrius. He opposes the Dragon King, Onaga, who rules by order, and he rivals Hotaru, the Seidan guardsman. '
The reason that I'm saying the whole Havik stuff is because of other things.
azure wing
that's the original timeline tho
not much has changed on Havik
except the goal
we don't even know if chaosrealm exists
he could be one of Quan Chi's servants for all we know
and is an extremist anarchist
"You will accept chaos, by choice or by force!"
keen crest
We're speculating here mate, I'm using previous information to inform what we can gleam from the new information.
azure wing
seeing that he has allied with Quan Chi in the alternate timeline, it's more likely the case that he's the same old manipulating man who wants chaos above all things
so he pulls strings from both sides
keen crest
So yeah, I'll take a gander at the OG Timeline stuff
azure wing
yeah i'm speculating too
In the original timeline
Havik was a chaosrealmer whose goal was to fuck over Orderrealm/Seido
cuz order bad
in the alternate timeline
He's pulling strings everywhere and shit
literally made Reiko his puppet in the comics before he was killed by Havik
in the new era
with Liu Kang neutralizing threats by changing their destinies
it seems as if he could not change everything
cuz Havik is not a good guy in the slightest
actually, he's not good nor evil
he's just
chaotic
and he'd prolly go on any side that would aid in his goal
even allying with the good guys
keen crest
I do wonder if the big bad in this game is Onaga, there was a stage in the trailer or one of the trailers that looked like the Dragon Warrior's thing, which is part of Onaga's thing
And if it is, then Havik could end up against him
I will say, I do fear Havik being an Atrocitus in Injustice 2 situation. Where he shows up exactly once in the story and never appears again
azure wing
he most likely will appear in places with the most chaos
for instance
the Outworld's civil war led by Reiko
against the royalty
keen crest
Maybe, we'll see.
I do hope he's a bit goofy. This Havik only said one sentence in the trailer and it was quite serious.
azure wing
i think he's serious
his gimmick of being a twisty man is gone and has been replaced with
mutilation
keen crest
I forgot how calm of a voice he had in the previous games
keen crest
his gimmick of being a twisty man is gone and has been replaced with
mutilation
Self Mutilation was a bit of Meats thing, but he did have that self neck snap move that would heal him.
Not really enough to be called a gimmick, but I think it's fine
azure wing
what's interesting is how easily he rips himself
even when he beats up Ashrah in his fatal blow, his hands became more crooked until he lost them
that's where he resorted to stabbing her head with his broken bones
keen crest
azure wing
so i'm wondering if he's so fragile that he can literally break his own body just by beating someone up
or if his strength is stronger than his body's durability
keen crest
so i'm wondering if he's so fragile that he can literally break his own body jus...
Probably a latter, but it most likely won't be explained
stray coyote
Hmm, he could actually be Dairou
Havik is havik. He’s not a person liek Nooooob
keen crest
Havik is havik. He’s not a person liek Nooooob
*like
wheat tartan
keen crest
I got a chuckle out of it
hidden summit
If Havik is from Seido does that mean chaos realm doesn’t exist?
keen crest
If Havik is from Seido does that mean chaos realm doesn’t exist?
There was an implication from D.A? Or Deception? Basically, a quote that someone said in that game implying that Havik was originally from the Order Realm
stray coyote
cant be DA cus Havik didnt exist
azure wing
I guess it's no wonder Darrius is a cameo
cuz chaosream don't exist and Seido does
perhaps Seido becomes chaosrealm in the future
cuz yknow
"Killing one realm to free anotheR"
keen crest
Or Seido splits into two
stray coyote
I prefer seido to be orderrealm and chaos realm to remain chaosrealm and be separate.
Also why doesn’t his bio talk about spreading chaos across all the realms not just seido
uncut plaza
one thing i love about Havik's title of "Cleric of Chaos" is a lot of fans say that it makes no sense cause you can't have an organized title dedicated to the nature of being unorganized. which is exactly how it works Havik is all about fucking with people, the title is part of that
main marsh
Havik goes from crazy to crazy
stray coyote
nah he went from crazy to whiny anarkiddie 
main marsh
Huh
tough coyote
I hope we get at least 1 interaction with Havik that mentions Joker:
Character: This might sound hard to believe, but there's an evil clown looking for you.
Havik: The one with the purple suit? He's a friend.
Cause in Joker's MK11 Ending him and Havik become friends and start spreading Chaos in Order Realm.
pallid sky
check this move it takes 2 bars so its gotta have some weird potential?
@tardy remnant
pallid sky
so it looks like helping hand DB1 has armor without EX but if you get hit it doesnt do the pop up
and Neoplasa BF1 will come out faster if youre already in a combo
naive flicker
Anyone else sad havik can't be played till you best story mode or just me
pallid sky
yea it sucks
pallid sky
im pretty sure hes gonna be a kameo heavy character cause all his specials are very slow to convert i got 30% off here but hes a very awkward character
i dont think theres really a better kameo option for this kombo tho
this is B22 BF1 FKameo B221+3
ive also found if you use BF3 then the fast version of BF1 wont happen
naive flicker
Yea but combos look cool
hollow bobcat
Is this 2 bar move a command grab? I’m trying to figure out why this would cost 2 bars
pallid sky
the follow up leads into an unblockable combo starter and its so you cant keep chaining them
ruby vigil
his whole backstory makes no sense
he is so random anarchist who gets his face burnt in molten hot lava and only half of his face is damaged for some reason and that half being burnt off gave him the ability rip off his head, snap his neck and disconnect his torso along with other stuff be fine and alive while being able to reconnect it or grow it back.
pallid sky
mk
pallid sky
its mk
tropic tundra
Correct
Hes been my main so far, even though im not getting all his combos my fundamentals with him are really good I won every KL and most casual games ive played so far
Currently pairing with stryker for increased mixups and resets with the handcuff move
Ive never been the kind of guy to do massive optimal combos so ill probablly stick to tools for mixups and pressure
pallid sky
ive found that ending combos early with him works best eitehr for a set up such as BF1 AMP DB1 or BF3 works ive also started ending with Strykers restand Kuffed
ruby vigil
ive found that ending combos early with him works best eitehr for a set up such ...
I do not understand any of that shit I just play the video game lol
tropic tundra
pallid sky
hes fun, good is defo up in the air but i like him
ruby vigil
naive flicker
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They don't explain it but it appears in this timeline he gained extreme healing magic fron quanchi its mentioned in his intros against shangtsung so as long as the damage he takes doesn't outpace his healing and he isn't fully destroyed he can't die
ashen flare
Havik b2 seems to become threatening asf with stryker
B22 4/up assist is only a 3f difference
And they have to worry abt the throw followup still
tropic tundra
True
The thing with stryker is you have no way to stun and use your bf1 launcher for good combos
Im gonna try Cyrax but hmm
ashen flare
Yea I was thinking hed be crazy good but there are some issues
I wish his back assist didnt hit so far
tropic tundra
Yeah...
Its good for pressure and stealing turns forcing ppl to block..
But stryker doesnt let me us all my tools
ashen flare
Rly unfortunate bc stryker is rly close to being insanely good for rain too
Oh well cyrax it is then
tropic tundra
When would I net then? I cant combo into it from what I see
wicked minnow
When would I net then? I cant combo into it from what I see
From full screen probably, doesn’t go away on hit and it has so much hitstun so projectile trades are super in your favor
tropic tundra
This gltich has happend to me too 💀
ashen flare
Is the f4 after enhanced bf2 guaranteed? Idk if theres like a delay tech or smth
tropic tundra
Unsure
ashen flare
Anyone got a doc or video on havik optimals?
tropic tundra
Check honeybee’s channel he faced a really god havik recently
I typically do something like
f4 bf1 dash f12 db4
Although you can also instead do 1, f12 bf2 for the puke instead which can lead to ambush kameo or the 2 bar neck snap move
main marsh
whats the consensus on havik? thinking about trying him once i take a break from kenshi
frosty sigil
havik is a character with 0 flaws
ashen flare
So true
tropic tundra
2 hit string into projectile which is your launcher, into either roll or spin attack as your ender
Any of the strings will do, b22 has good range, f1 and 1 are faster but highs
F4 is slow but can catch ppl off guard, I didnt see tournament level haviks use that string at all though
Sub zero or cyrax for combos since his db1 is almost impossible to hit properly for a combo without a freeze
main marsh
ty
tropic tundra
I used stryker for a while for extra pressure
and mixups
his pressure can be really good
tropic tundra
wintry pewter
Does anybody know the havik Kano tech? Is the timing doable on hit confirm or is it all on read?
Nvm it’s e.g b22 kameo > db1xx
pallid sky
get someone whos jumping at full screen
tropic tundra
Yeah you can push a jump in or read to force the enemy to go full screen again
and the ball can be used in conjutction with db1 if you dont get the launch
wintry pewter
I’m just getting into havik but what is his bnb into bf2? It always whiffs
Kano gives havik 46% for two bars
Inputs go like b2 -kameo- 2 db1xx or 1 -kameo- 1 db1xx
I’m glad kameo buttons don’t intercept normal buttons
So you can squeeze them in mid combo
end combo
tropic tundra
I’m just getting into havik but what is his bnb into bf2? It always whiffs
you need to time it right, back up a smidge when theyre airborne
Its not easy to time correctly but youll get used to it
Or if your combo ends close, finish with db4 instead
wintry pewter
You can hold back on the bf2 for a shorter ranged version
I did not know this. Thanks
wicked minnow
Yeah np
lavish heron
Havik mains assemble
What’s the deal with his armored move, someone saying if you soak 1/2/3 hits without it breaking it deals more damage? 
wicked minnow
yrah
wicked minnow
Unfortunately not
lavish heron
Havik mains reassemble
wicked minnow
Somewhere around 20-30 if it’s last hit or something
lavish heron
(Thank you though 
)
wicked minnow
Can probably lab it
lavish heron
Well yeah actually I am interested in learning him myself but the purpose for the question is for him haha
wicked minnow
All I know is d4 and b2 is neutral and sub is one of his best kameos
frosty sigil
What’s the deal with his armored move, someone saying if you soak 1/2/3 hits wit...
if someone hits you while its going on
it doesnt combo but does more damage
thin orchid
Hot
tropic tundra
Which one
tropic tundra
Understandable but it pushes them pretty far
Ill only usually get punished for it if I do it to somebody in the corner
wicked minnow
I mean you won’t get punished for it ever, but you lose your turn just for hitting it
tropic tundra
Sends em back to neutral
wicked minnow
Exactly, why does it do that? I feel like you should at least be able to get oki
tropic tundra
Whats wrong with pushing ppl to neutral
Its not something theyre gonna usually block tbh since they are most likely expecting you to finish the string with the overhead
frosty sigil
Exactly, why does it do that? I feel like you should at least be able to get oki
it also throws people off when they expect it to end with an overhead
it works surprisingly well when haviks other tools fail
tropic tundra
Yep
thin orchid
habik got his kataravala skin but still no white eyes
silk yew
any clues on linking b22 consistently after bf1 in a combo? My god, it's depressing how often it doesn't reach
wicked minnow
any clues on linking b22 consistently after bf1 in a combo? My god, it's depress...
Just practicing it in the lab, tbh f1 f12 is a easier extension than b22 and does similar damage
silk yew
microdash then?
because I know b22 can link without a microdash, but the timing is exquisite
silk yew
Just practicing it in the lab, tbh f1 f12 is a easier extension than b22 and doe...
Microdash into f1,2?