Mortal Kombat 1

[celest orchid]

Cyborg supremacy

I wanna get the gang back together

Although I guess smoke with cyrax is probably the closest I can get to triborg in mk1

[sturdy fjord]

Hot take: armor should have more than one hit

Armor breaks completely nullify any option besides blocking on wakeup

Especially since most of them are safe and/or launch meterless

[gray nimbus]

What are your guys' thoughts on Kano Cameo?

Funny how Darrius allows both Geras and Reiko to combo off of their command grabs

[dawn sparrow]

He seems cool. But I I'm not sure who he can work well with

[gray nimbus]

Tremor
Mavado
Johnny Cage
Ferra
Khameleon

Those are the kameos for the kombat pack, want to discuss on how we think they'll play or any potential moves they might have?

[acoustic fable]

Johnny kameo will 100% have green energy

[gray nimbus]

Agreed

Mavado cameo will give mobility, a part of me thinks that Khameleon kameo will give invisibility with one of the moves

[celest orchid]

Ferra has gotta be giant version from her tower ending

Since it just says Ferra and not Ferra/Torr

[gray nimbus]

It could literally just be small ferra, leaping at the opponent with her knives.

[celest orchid]

Possibly

But idk

Actually

That might be it

Since the Kameo functions as like an assist to the character

I can imagine her fatal blow working similar to her X ray

And her standing next to the character in the win screen

It'd be funny if she stayed in the background of the stage like when she's not in top of Torr in mkx instead of just disappearing like other kameos

[gray nimbus]

Yeah, I do think it's going to be small Ferra.

[celest orchid]

If they do that they've gotta add Torr as a playable character

Not that I want Ferra/Torr to be back

But because lackey Torr is pog

And I need him back

[gray nimbus]

I'm excited for Mavado, because in game his kit was designed entirely around it being a 3D space. He had special moves to send him to the side, catapulting him forward and stuff like that.

Wonder how they're going to incorporate his moves into a cameo

[celest orchid]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/comments/16s734y/this_is_a_huge_problem_rushed_development_is/

Wtf

Ain't no way bruh

[native dock]

this is a bad thing for certain

but I feel like Idk

nobody noticed it through a playtest, beta, and 2 weeks of gameplay across numerous high level players

is this really like

that game breaking lmao

[short echo]

if one player can do the combo while other cant yeah it is **that game breaking **, lmao

and most did not notice bc they thought it is their fault mostly

because i would do that

[native dock]

maybe

I just don't think I'd be too concerned if I'm mirroring someone and they can do .8% more damage or something

on a combo

it's like, negligible, I wouldn't be sitting there like "I'm at a huge disadvantage here"

it's like "oh one person has an unfair advantage" but it's like, so small it's probably not winning anyone games

but yes I agree it's a problem that shouldn't exist at all

[celest orchid]

Because nobody was looking for it and it isn't obvious unless you're looking for it specifically

For a while people just thought they were dropping combos

They really had no reason to suspect a modern fighting game of having P1 advantage at all, especially not in competitive online play

[odd owl]

I actually had a dream about this 😭

Which lead me to wonder if they’re gonna use NRS Johnny or Midway Johnny as the kameo

[short echo]

it is huge advantage lol , you have no idea what u are talking about.

[celest orchid]

Yeah lmao

One player just having actual different stats due to hitboxes being inconsistent between them can easily change the outcome of any match

[tribal axle]

Considering characters can already have a 400 hit point difference since the game is balanced around that, I’d say it can hurt the competitive scene pretty badly

Your opponent already has 150% of your health bar and you still do less damage than intended

[celest orchid]

Even if it didn't have that

Imagine if this wasn't found this early

And you're a competitive player

Trying your hardest to win a cash prize as well as the respect of the community

And you drop a combo you're going for a couple times and end up losing In a close game

Knowing that landing that combo once could've made all the difference

THEN you find out that you physically couldn't perform it

That

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-the-start-fallout-new-vegas-gif-14316695

[celest orchid]

Let's just be glad this was discovered before the cash tournaments started

Imagine the controversy if it was found out afterwards

[native dock]

https://youtu.be/rplfGWn7w0I?si=c8mVkXcIgMMJNqJV

[native dock]

the ones the guy showed were like, unoptimal combos that were doing, like, 1.5% more on player 1

on 2 characters

I agree it is a bad thing

but this feels like it gets hotfixed in a weekend patch, and hardly effects anybody in the games first couple of weeks

but now that we're aware let's see how much of a difference it's actually making

because I'm willing to bet it's, very, little

this feels like the level of disadvantage people talk about when they're like "oh yeah it is a huge deal man, I have 1 frame extra input lag because of my wireless controller, it's not fair I need a wired controller"

and it's like, yeah, it is a real disadvantage, but so little that it's probably not what's losing people games

but I'm willing to take an L on this if we start seeing optimal player 1 combos that are doing noticeably more damage on at least a handful of characters

[short echo]

i have no idea why u still continue this convo lol.

[short echo]

he was just showing the stuff , does not matter optimal or not combos are not connecting.

it can happen to everything.

[short echo]

yeah , you wish

nrs is not like that

this might take months.

they did not even bother acknowledging the issues.

[native dock]

I just would like to see the scale of the issue is all before I say this is a massively game breaking deal, you might be right and I'm downplaying, but if this is like, 4 characters have this weird bug that makes certain unoptimal combos whiff, and it gets patched in 2 weeks

I'm just not gonna really be too bothered

it is an issue that is potentially a big deal but, I just wanna see more before I go "oh yep this game is unplayable" on something nobody ever really noticed playing so far

[short echo]

whatever u say tbh

[sturdy fjord]

I mean it’s not like specific people just aren’t able to do combos, everyone is still able to get p2 or p1. It’s just something to be aware of until it gets fixed

Nothing a little more labbing won’t fix until it gets patched

[supple mortar]

how do I get them?

[native dock]

finish invasions

[supple mortar]

oh ok

but do I get enough to open all the blocked paths?

and y is my MK1 updating if they didn't release any patch notes?

[pulsar pivot]

https://youtu.be/rplfGWn7w0I?si=gc5zBtg0PVDl-0ID

Anyone else seen this?

[ancient pasture]

yeah it’s all over Reddit

[gray nimbus]

There was a small patch today

[pulsar pivot]

I don't own the game but I've been following enough to know that this is a major issue.

So far I've only seen sub zero and kitana affected. Has it happened to anyone else

[ancient pasture]

not that I know of. Doesn’t affect reiko, nothing I’ve seen of baraka or Johnny. It seems to be a bug for only a few characters

[acoustic fable]

It affects baraka

[supple mortar]

Too long didn’t watch?

[supple mortar]

Oh ok

Oh, they finally fixed the weekly challenges

Will they give us another try on the Li Mei skin?

[pulsar pivot]

MK1 has an issue with player 1 advantage meaning that characters controlled by player 1 can perform certain combos but if player 2 tried them, they'd drop the combo. It was tested in the video with Sub and Kitana and the difference is such that it can cost you a match you get bad match order and end up as player 2

[supple mortar]

Fuck

[sturdy fjord]

They rolled out a patch today

[supple mortar]

Oh

So it’s already fixed?

[gray nimbus]

MK9 had the same issue and some other fighting games have had that issue before.

Unsure if the issue has been resolved yet, but they have said that they are working on it

[leaden stratus]

how to I beat shang tsungs f4

[sturdy fjord]

Didn’t fix it

[gray nimbus]

That sounds about right. It was just discovered not even 24 hours ago.

[sturdy fjord]

Wonder what the patch was for then

[supple mortar]

It fixed the challenges

[sturdy fjord]

The wat

[supple mortar]

Now I just want another try in Li Mei’s skin

[celest orchid]

It works like a key, not a consumable

You only get 1 but it doesn't get used

So it opens all paths

[supple mortar]

Oh ok

[supple mortar]

The daily/weekly quests

That couldn’t get completed

[celest orchid]

Are people still downplaying this?

What's so hard to understand about how big of a deal player 1 having an advantage is in a game which is played competitively?

[gray nimbus]

Not downplaying it.

I'm just not feeling outraged about it, because this isn't the first Fighting Game to have this issue and that we know they are working to fix it.

Basically, sucks that it's there.

But we all know it's there and we know that they are going to fix it. No use in really getting cross about it, when we're all on the same page.

[celest orchid]

The fact that it was shipped like that is pretty concerning imo

Like, how does that not get caught during QA?

This didn't happen in X and 11 iirc

[gray nimbus]

Eh, things get by testing or whatever.

And like I said hardly the first fighting game to have this issue. Hell, it's not even the first MK Game to have this issue. MK9 had it as well.

I don't think there's anything to be that concerned about tbh.

[sturdy fjord]

Mk11 and X had their own issues

[gray nimbus]

We caught sight of the problem really early on, and the Devs are working to fix it.

[sturdy fjord]

People keep forgetting this game just came out

They react like it was just found out in mkx

6 years later

Games have issues on launch, get used to it lmao

[gray nimbus]

I will say MK1 definitely released unpolished, and the Devs probably would have wanted more time to just work on ironing things out. But that's really just the industry standard at this point in time. Not every game can be allowed more time to bake so to speak.

In any case, the gameplay of MK1 is superb, we just need to find the bugs as we go and squash them.

[sturdy fjord]

True

[gray nimbus]

And they most assuredly are being squashed, so I can't really bring myself to feel angry about this or anything like that. It would be different if NRS wasn't working on fixing this stuff, but we do know from their comments that they know this is an issue and are working on it

[supple mortar]

Agree

[gray nimbus]

I will say that MK1 most likely had some developmental issues, but issues that most likely won't occur again.

Like special circumstance issues, i.e pivoting from Injustice 3 mid development to MK1 sort of thing. Which is the prevailing theory, I doubt that we'll here anything confirming that for a while but everything lines up with that being the case.

[odd owl]

This dude Trueunderdawg posted a “definitive tier list” the games been out for a week come on 💀💀

[supple mortar]

Lmfao

When will the next EVO be?

[gray nimbus]

July of next year

[sturdy fjord]

How do you choose alt skins for characters

Colors*

[celest orchid]

Just let him have it

He's been going insane waiting for a new game

He's finally got actual content for his videos

[pulsar pivot]

It's crazy that shit like this wasn't caught during the beta or the stress test. How tf did nobody even notice this until some dude on YT found out.

I think I'd trust a tierlist from sonicfox more than trueunderdawg tbh

[celest orchid]

That's what I'm saying

It specifically isn't the end of the world obviously

But it's a reflection of the modern games industry as a whole

Products released unfinished with issues that have no reason to be there

The people who are paying increasingly inflated prices to play games, are actually also the QA team

[oak dawn]

I didn’t even know you could get 60FPS below 720p quality.

[oak dawn]

Oh nooo

https://youtu.be/rplfGWn7w0I?si=5R986Fmpg_4XTQ32

[native dock]

Block while standing.

[acoustic fable]

Do any kameos have skins besides Sonya

[native dock]

Honestly think Sonya in MK11 looked much better.

[sturdy fjord]

She looks the same to me

Maybe a little shorter

[odd gull]

Think i’m gonna not play KL until this P1 advantage gets fixed

[supple mortar]

Think i’m gonna not play KL I finish this invasions shit 😭

[arctic lintel]

I agree that liu kang use geras as powerpoint presentation
Also geras design in mk1 looks better also with the story too

[supple mortar]

tbh I kinda like Invasions

ez way to farm them seasonal kredits

[arctic lintel]

Hanzo hasashi in multiverse of madness

[pulsar pivot]

I imagine P1 advantage has all but killed any tournaments now

[gray nimbus]

There's no big tournaments anytime soon

The problem will be fixed

[supple mortar]

forget I ever said that

[sturdy fjord]

I like farming invasions

Not playing the actual mode

[supple mortar]

It sucks so fucking hard

[odd owl]

Invasions is alright

I don’t hate it but it gets boring quickly

But whenever I do something I always have to finish it so I can’t stop grinding invasions

At least I got Havik dripped out

[sturdy fjord]

ToT was worse

Imo

Random drops from specific towers at specific dates at specific times

Was a nightmare

Meteor towers and character towers were the only towers worth playing ever

[supple mortar]

I’ll have to finish it too

Since I want every skin possible in this game

I just hope they make it a smaller grind with equal/bigger rewards next season

[supple mortar]

At least you knew exactly what you were going to get

And exactly what you were going to face

And didn’t have the unskippable walking/screen breaking animations

Also, you could just grind for a specific character

Like me grinding only for Mileena and Jade

Now that I want to start getting good with every character (maining Mileena and Ashrah, obviously) it’s not that bad

But if I still had the same mindset, getting some random Reiko recolor would piss me off

[sturdy fjord]

Yeah no you didn’t

And I’ll take walking animations over tower requirements any day

And fucking augments

Ew

Most of the ToT garunteed stuff was pallet swap

And most the time it was random

[supple mortar]

Did we even play the same game?

I mean

I played so little towers of time that I might remember incorrectly, as I only played character towers lmao

[sturdy fjord]

And there’s the issue right there

I’ve put like 500 hours into towers just for character cosmetics alone

[somber gale]

Hmm

This is kinda not fun haha

Idk if it’s because I suck or what

[leaden stratus]

yay

[sturdy fjord]

The game?

[somber gale]

Yes.

Not me getting punished for literally blocking 😐

[gray nimbus]

I like the idea of invasions, just not the execution. NRS has got to stop with these modifiers

[supple mortar]

yep

we want hard shit

not dumb shit

should have a difficulty-reward system

where the harder the difficulty is, better is the reward

but without this armor shit

[final sleet]

Yeah Invasions is cool but it’s too easy once you hit lvl 30

[supple mortar]

"cool" is not a word I would use for that mode

the idea might be

but the actual mode is just repetitive and boring

[final sleet]

I like it more than the Krypt that’s for sure

[supple mortar]

ohhhhh

yeah

on that we agree

I hated the krypt

so fucking boring

for random skins and concepts

at least you actually have some action in invasions

[final sleet]

Such a pain to walk around the entire map for 20 minutes just to open a few chests

[supple mortar]

yeah

and as a Mileena main, I absolutely hated it on mk11

lmao

[stone island]

I actually like the lrypt

krypt

[supple mortar]

why?

like

just

WHY?

[stone island]

I dont reeally care for unlocking many things

at least in mk11

I just liked walking around the solving the puzzles

and seeing the cool stuff

[supple mortar]

go play "The Witness"

[final sleet]

I can agrée with that

[stone island]

I like seeing the mk stuff

[supple mortar]

Oh ok

some lore shit

yeah

it was pretty cool

[stone island]

the shrine is disappointing

[supple mortar]

still doesn't make up for the walking around and doing nothing to me

[stone island]

cuz I gott everything in it

[final sleet]

In mk1 yeah

[supple mortar]

I wouldn't say that

[stone island]

so now itt just says good work goodbye

[supple mortar]

I actually like it very much

[stone island]

well opening the things and getting cool stuff can be nice

but the animations also take foreever

[supple mortar]

the only thing I don't like about it are the animations

[supple mortar]

yep

[final sleet]

1k gold each I wish you could stack it like in mk11

[supple mortar]

lmfao

did they just fix my level?

[stone island]

yea stacking 10k gold and getting 10 stuff would be way more satisfying

[final sleet]

Yeah and I wouldn’t even mind the animation then

[supple mortar]

the fact that u have to use it for every single thousand gold

is kinda annoying

still better than the mk11 one, imo

and get rid of those concepts

no one gives a crap

[stone island]

honestly I dont mind it

[final sleet]

Well having concepts in the game is more as a way to respect the artists

The people who worked on the game

[stone island]

eventually it got the the point where I got all the art and then I only got legendary stuff

[final sleet]

Some people enjoy looking at the process of design so I don’t mind

[supple mortar]

ok, pretty cool for the characters

but bruh

the npcs?

[final sleet]

Well a npc is still a character design

[stone island]

well I wanna learn how they made the hat for the guy you didnt notice in the wu shi place

[supple mortar]

ok then

I guess I lost my point on that one

[stone island]

well at the same time it its kinda unrealstic to have a ton of stuff in the shrine

cuz after the concept art is unlocked

there is not much in there

[final sleet]

There’s not much customization in the first place anyways

[stone island]

well at the same time

[final sleet]

I mean they haven’t rotated the shop since the game came out

[stone island]

half of the gear thats in the game is not obtainable

[final sleet]

Yeah, we have to wait until the shop rotates or a new season starts

[supple mortar]

What really annoys me is that we already had the three gear customization system

And we just lost it

[stone island]

I actually dont like the gear systems at all

[supple mortar]

Probably cause of the same old deadline problem

[final sleet]

I mean most of the time you were customizing shit you would never see like Sub Zeros tiny shurikens that he never used

[supple mortar]

I do, it didn’t give advantage on KL, so fuck it

[final sleet]

But yeah, I would’ve liked more customization

[supple mortar]

That’s true

[stone island]

for me its a weird complaint

[supple mortar]

Still

[stone island]

that doesnt really make sense

[supple mortar]

We lost it

So it’s a downgrade

And I really liked to customize Mileena’s sai AND mask

[final sleet]

If you’ve ever played For Honor I think that game does customization and progression perfectly

[stone island]

cuz the characters have very defined designs and when you can change very little details I found it made everyone look like a random mk9 npc

[supple mortar]

Never played

[stone island]

prolly just a me thing

[supple mortar]

I liked it mainly cause now I can’t choose Mileena’s fucking mask

So every sub/scorpion/smoke/reptile main is prob gonna agree with me

[stone island]

at least she has the cute mermaid skin

[supple mortar]

Even if most of those can already chance the mask lmao

[supple mortar]

Yep, it’s pretty cool

I’m using the one with the tatoos tho

[stone island]

I like the tatoos

but I dont like the colors

I prefer the pink on it

[supple mortar]

I think red fits well

Also

We can’t ask for other colors this season lmao

[stone island]

yea its all red and stuff

||when they do the sub zero or raiden invasion I hope the colors are better lol||

idk if thats a spoiler

but its just a safe guess

[supple mortar]

I don't think so lmao

[supple mortar]

I wanted some black stuff to be fair

but none of those will give me that (probably)

[supple mortar]

Invasions are useful when KL makes me depressed

[dawn sierra]

Well

SZ might

[arctic lintel]

I see the video of glitch cyrax attack quan chi wihout head,hands and feet

[leaden stratus]

How do I fight a zoning scorpion/sareena as smoke. This guy beat me 9 times in a row on Kombat League I am pissed

With the same brutality everytime

I can’t do smoke cancels to save my life, it’s either lag or I am pressing it too early

[oak dawn]

Maybe try a different character?

It could also be that Player 1 advantage bullshit that hasn’t been patched yet

[leaden stratus]

You can only change your kameo

[oak dawn]

I mean try playing a character besides Smoke in general.

Like there’s 23 characters in the game.

[leaden stratus]

I am trying to learn smoke what do you mean, I asked for tips with smoke particularly against scorpion not “go pick another character”

I know rain, kung lao, general shao, Reptile and smoke. Thats 5 characters. I want to use smoke

[supple mortar]

Tf u saying lmao

[supple mortar]

Sareena seems to work with every character, if u need a kameo sugestion

So that

[oak dawn]

Pretty much everyone is using Sareena and for very good reason it seems

that chakram throw is no joke. So much pressure on one button

[supple mortar]

Ye

[supple mortar]

Try searching for tutorials online

Can’t help cause I don’t play as smoke

And even if I did

I’m pretty bad at the game

[oak dawn]

What I'm saying is that Saucey could try using a different main character besides Smoke. There's 23 characters in the game and they all have various playstyles and strengths. If he can't beat a zoning Scorpion as Smoke, he may be able to beat them as someone else. Nitara has air dashes that can carry you fullscreen for example, and Raiden could do his dive-tackle while in the air to close distance.

[cosmic pebble]

I think he wants to beat them as smoke though

I thought smokes whole thing was being good at anti zoning with his tp bullshit, so i mean its definitely possible

I’m poopy at smoke though good luck sir 🙏🏼

[supple mortar]

but bro said he wants to learn Smoke

[supple mortar]

yep lmao

[supple mortar]

I'm poopy at any character, my win/loss rate is dumb lmfao

[supple mortar]

what does Johnny Cage star meter do, and y is he the only one that has that kind of special power?

[acoustic fable]

It let's him go super saiyan when unleashed

And it's a gimmick

Sf6 has several characters with a gimmick like that

[supple mortar]

more damage?

[acoustic fable]

You're able to cancel special moves into other special moves and some amp specials don't cost meter afaik

[supple mortar]

oh wtf

I want that for Mileena and Ashrah

and I want it now

[acoustic fable]

Nah

[stone island]

just neutral duck and teleport

I assume he is using the double projectile which is very easy to punish

and its very risky but smokes back 2 closes distance very quickly and if paired with scorpion kameo you can do overhead > overhead or overhead> low which is hard if he knows the MU

but this is also online do its hard to react to stuff like that

[leaden stratus]

Smokes teleport is slow, the sareena scythes hit on the way back so I can’t really punish. Scorpions back 3 stops me from trying to duck. I switched to Cyrax from sektor, I can get about 30 percent of smokes B24 with cyrax

And this was in Kombat League like I said I can’t change my character unless I go back from matchmaking

[stone island]

I actually havent tested this so its theoretical but maybe if you enhance the teleport and do an air combo you can linger in the air so it misses you

and the teleport is slow but it can still punish sareena

[leaden stratus]

Everytime I tried to teleport it was blocked and I was punished for 47 percent

[stone island]

when where you teleporting?

[leaden stratus]

I tried to teleport right when I saw him throw something

[stone island]

throwing the double yes?

[leaden stratus]

He would throw out the singles too

[stone island]

the double is punishable on reaction

if you think he is gonna use sareena jump over and teleport

[stone island]

also this

its important to learn that

[leaden stratus]

everytime I would jump he would air spear me, and in the corner he would use the meter drain so I couldn’t break. Everytime I spent my meter it was a waste because it was blocked or I got hit out of it

[sturdy fjord]

Wait what is he zoning you with?

[leaden stratus]

The spear sareena and b3

[stone island]

idk

cuz you can jump air tele

[sturdy fjord]

I don’t think sareena or scorpian has any mid projectiles

[stone island]

or smoke dash cancel

[stone island]

that aswell

[leaden stratus]

That gets hit out by B3

[sturdy fjord]

B3 the mid?

[leaden stratus]

It’s low

Idk the long sweep

Maybe It’s back 2 or somethjng

[sturdy fjord]

Wait the super punishable one?

Can’t you just dash block in then?

Man sareena kameo is so broken on pressure, if only-

Duck the projectiles, block the low, free punish

[stone island]

yes this

[leaden stratus]

Every match I was close to winning I just wasn’t doing enough damage. Scorpions 21 hits stupid far as well. so any attempt to hit B2 was beat. Also nobody is going to use sareena that close. It’s really annoying when you try to duck them on the way back and they hit you amyway

[sturdy fjord]

Don’t you have like, a insane whiff punishing string that’s a also a low overhead?

This is smoke we’re talking about right?

I could be wrong

[stone island]

yea

[sturdy fjord]

Don’t you also have a tp that hits overhead low at midscreen

That can definitely go over scorp b3

[leaden stratus]

It’s not meant for whiff punishing otherwise it would be B3 but it’s forward, if you try to dash back and hit F3 a smoke dash comes out

[stone island]

...

no?

[sturdy fjord]

It’s definitely meant for whiff punishing

[stone island]

sorry I look like such an ass

[sturdy fjord]

B3 is for checking people not blocking

And for chip

That’s why he was using it

[stone island]

dont dash back

[lone ruin]

Can someone explain to me how or why the Raiden/Sareena combo has not been disabled yet? It cannot be intended that this setup can do 50% of a safe low string while using no meter and the combo is stupidly easy requiring absolutely no effort, dashing, just dialing a combo. How is this not disabled yet until it's fixed?

[odd owl]

Why would it be disabled

[leaden stratus]

My brother was watching when I fought Mike Trollinski, and he is the biggest fan he paid me 5 bucks not to fight him lmao

[odd owl]

Man who tf is Mike trollinski 😭😭😭😭

[sturdy fjord]

Because it’s not a game breaking bug or glitch?

[acoustic fable]

Just one more trophy now til platinum. Too bad it's the one nobody can get right now

[ancient ether]

I'm curious

How are they fixing the P2 disadvantage bug?

Are they giving P2 the P1 hitbox or vice versa?

[acoustic fable]

fixing the gravity I'm assuming

[oak dawn]

Idk what it is but Reiko feels… out of place in MK1

Especially in his intro animations

If he’s the defending character, he slides to a knee, stands up, and brandishes his knife. He doesn’t do anything fancy

If he’s the attacking character, he… scoops up some dirt and then pats himself off

In a game where every other character is exhibiting their abilities or doing some flashy special effects, Reiko is just straight-up normal

He’s just a dude, he’s just there.

I guess now I’m understanding how people felt about the Special Forces.

But idk Reiko feels a lot more basic than the SF. They all have cool tech or some form of superpower and Reiko is just some soldier guy with a spear and an attitude

[acoustic fable]

I think he's meant to be some kind of greco/roman gladiator archetype

[oak dawn]

Which is fine.

But Reiko is very plain and featureless

He would have fit perfectly in MK9X11 because of how grounded the gameplay and setting were, with characters generally using their powers less assuming they had any at all

But now we’re in MK1, everyone and their mother and dog has one superpower or another and Reiko is the ‘resident badass with no powers’, basically taking the role of Sonya Blade

Setting aside that he’s a bad guy so he will always get shat on despite his status

[acoustic fable]

I mean Johnny is the most normal one besides the hype mechanic

He doesn't even have powers anymore

[sterile canyon]

Kitana as well..she is a shell of her former self. She contributed nothing in story mode. Could have removed her character completely and nothing would have changed

[acoustic fable]

Like many other characters, most of her story happened off screen

[short echo]

bruh nrs is full of fails , jfc haha

https://tenor.com/view/mila-kunis-lmfao-lmao-lol-gif-21382572

[sterile canyon]

Wait are they just leaving the servers offline all weekend? So we can't even play?

[oak dawn]

Can’t you play other game modes?

A previous announcement said they ran into an issue trying to push a patch out so they’re delaying the patch to fix it

[sterile canyon]

You can't play Invasions and you don't have access to any of your unlockables. XP earned while not connected doesn't count towards profile levels or character mastery

So basically the only thing you can do is practice and towers

[oak dawn]

Oh for fuck’s sake

Another online-only piece of shit

[sterile canyon]

Yup

Modern Gaming in a nutshell

[oak dawn]

Yeah nah I’m not buying this game for certain anymore

I swear the only reason to ever make a game online-only is because you want to mine crypto using your players’ console as botnets.

[sturdy fjord]

Wat

most fgs are online only

[toxic aurora]

Of all the reasons to spout out-loud about not buying a game which you would buy primarily to fight other people, that's gotta be the dumbest one.

[sterile canyon]

Street Fighter 6 showed that people want fighting games with more single player content. Not everyone wants to play with sweats online

I've had MK1 since launch and ive played exactly 2 matches online

[toxic aurora]

So you did specifically buy MK1 for single player content?

[sterile canyon]

I guess? I buy MK for MK. I don't buy it to play online if that's what you are asking

Nor do I buy any MK to play online

I bought SF6 for the world tour mode and single player arcade mode

[toxic aurora]

I used to do that out of necessity, not by choice. It's your money, but might be time to look at a different genre

[sterile canyon]

Well I got like 70 hours out of SF6 without playing online

I got just as much with MK11

MK1 not so much cause it's bare bones

[oak dawn]

There’s other content besides fighting other players online though. The game should not disallow me from playing that content just because I don’t have internet or the servers are down.

[toxic aurora]

You're entering a contradiction zone now.

[oak dawn]

That being said, when the servers go down the game is half-inaccessible unless they update it to change the online-only component

It was even worse with MK11 so they have gotten better about it

[sturdy fjord]

I mean it’s what you should expect from fgs

[bold remnant]

I’m trying to learn Shang tsung but god it would be a lot more easier if you could pin combos

[acoustic fable]

Who do we think is the most honest character in the roster

[high acorn]

geras

[sturdy fjord]

I agree

[high acorn]

idk how this shows his honesty but ok??

[sturdy fjord]

That very honest

[oak dawn]

I've only watched one or two different content creators videos on MK1 so far on account of not having home broadband at the moment - FaZeJev says Sub-Zero is too honest for MK1

His damage is low, his gimmick / uniqueness is weak, etc

[celest orchid]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/comments/16vppvv/so_we_just_cant_use_dlc_characters_when_the/

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-dust-dissolve-gif-16965356

Shang Tsung disappearing from my roster when my internet cuts out

[oak dawn]

You will own nothing and be happy

I have PAID for the content. Why can’t I have the content? Give me it!

[short echo]

yeah online only shit , it is even worst than mk11.

how many bullshit one game can have lmao.mk1 has a huge list.

[celest orchid]

DA scorpion or Shang Tsung announcer...

[short echo]

none , save it until there are better things.

dragon is not unlimited in mk1.

you could gain somehow in mk11 but in mk1 it is not the case.

they will rotate these things anyway so you wont miss them for sure.

[native dock]

How do I get this skin?

And this

[sudden geode]

what r those

[supple mortar]

I hope they create a way to get them unlimitedly next season

even if there's a seasonal cap

and it's hard af

cause bro

I want every Mileena and Ashrah skin possible

[short echo]

you cant get this , it is not up yet.

[short echo]

same for this

[short echo]

not gonna happen

wb is in this shit , even nrs want to do it wb wont allow it

if it was the case , we would have it by now.

[supple mortar]

let me dream

[supple mortar]

yeah

btw, NRS I want my Mileena's brutalities fixed

cause they're goofy af rn

[short echo]

wb wanna milk this game as much as possible because mk is their biggest leverage atm after so many fucked up stuff.

[supple mortar]

some of them*

[supple mortar]

yeah

[short echo]

brus are bugged ?

[supple mortar]

seems like I'll be wasting some dumb money in this game

[short echo]

hell no , im not paying for shit

vote with ur wallet

[supple mortar]

There's a brutality that Millena eat's something below the opponents head

she doesn't even open her mouth

it's goofy as hell

[native dock]

Some youtuber was using it in a video

[short echo]

yeah so many bugged stuff

[short echo]

hmm link it

[supple mortar]

and there's another that she eats the opponent's lower jaw

same shit

doesn't even open her mouth

[short echo]

im pretty sure it is not up

[native dock]

https://youtu.be/3NZK5BvjWa8?si=AESzPLLdg4PnaO6C

[short echo]

or i would get it as well

[supple mortar]

same for the provocation in which she licks her sai

[native dock]

This is the one

[supple mortar]

there must be a bug in Millena's jaw or something

[short echo]

he modded it for sure

hmm

i will look into this

@native dock https://ermaccer.github.io/posts/mk1hook/

[native dock]

Oh okay thx

I’m sure they will be skins in the future tho

[short echo]

it is not even unlocking skins via mods , it is just changing ur char to a npc

[short echo]

yeah for sure but after so long for sure.

they are lazy af

they will save them for season stuff

or will be worst

they will sell them via dragon

[leaden stratus]

I wish I could tech on a throw kounter like mk11.

[native dock]

Saw that the DA Scorpion design is in MK1

I

Do not understand the appeal of that design

Persnally

[high acorn]

ghost rider!!!!!!

[native dock]

Yeah, but 14 nipple spikes

Assymetrical wrist-wear

[high acorn]

true

[native dock]

Hot take

Scorpion has almost never really looked that cool in MK games

[high acorn]

nuh uh

i disagree

[native dock]

So many of his designs are like, "attempts to be cool" without actually being cool

And I like Scorpion as a character

But design wise, lord

[supple mortar]

ngl

I kinda miss Fujin

such a great character

maybe in the future KP?

[native dock]

Mayhaps

Deception Scorpion is probably one of his worst looks

MKX's beltman is pretty shite too

[daring pendant]

Anybody know where in the settings I have the option to pin my moves?

[lime mica]

not a thing in MK1

[ancient ether]

ye it's unfortunate

also

in invasions

why Liu Kang an Electric type too?

i thought he no longer wielded lightning lol

unless it's either the case that he can but doesnt want to or the devs forgor ig

[high acorn]

raiden gave him his power at the end of 11

and it like was combined both fire and lightning

but i dont rlly think he uses lightning in 1

[ancient ether]

bruh ik, that's why i said "no longer"

[ancient ether]

that was my question. why doesnt he?

[high acorn]

theres nothing to suggest that he lost it

[ancient ether]

||maybe, but what about that amulet he gave raiden?||

[high acorn]

it seems to be a new one

[ancient ether]

yeah

[high acorn]

spoiler territory tho

[ancient ether]

oh yeah forgor for a sec oops

my question stemmed from a gameplay perspective, but obv it's inevitably going into lore and story, so maybe we should change to the other channel lol

[oak dawn]

Bro how are people already hitting 70%

https://youtu.be/EzmRl8QZFqg?si=cIhSK1WVQtLvv2xw

[supple mortar]

Bruh wtf

[oak dawn]

Even in the beta people were hitting 50s

I had hoped that NRS would nerf damage across the board because 50 felt way too high even for one bar two Kameo

they only nerfed SubZero 💀

[supple mortar]

It’s pretty dumb

Me being happy with the 40% combo I created

And finding out people have discovered 70% combos

[oak dawn]

Johnny cage up in here casually doubling it

[supple mortar]

Yep

[oak dawn]

I get how fighting games work and that generally you can kill in two touches with a bit of optimisation

But seventy-fucking-six percent?????

Also side note it bothers me how we call it ‘percent’ since HP across the board generally isn’t 1000 (100%) anymore

But it is what it is

[supple mortar]

Yep

[supple mortar]

It’s kinda sad actually lmao

Also, using the fatal blow for 3% is pretty gigachad to me

[oak dawn]

The FB was 3%???

I didn’t even watch the video I just grabbed the link to share it. On mobile data

[supple mortar]

Yep

[oak dawn]

I remember someone scaled a Triborg MKX combo so badly that the X-ray did literally 1%

[supple mortar]

Wtf

[oak dawn]

It didn’t even trigger the brutality

[supple mortar]

There was a brutality for fatal blows back then?

[oak dawn]

X-rays yeah some of them.

Immediately what comes to mind is Jacqui. If her X-ray would kill, the jaw-shattering uppercut (second hit) would explode the head off

Triborg throws his head at his opponent to start the X-ray sequence and if it would kill, their head explodes too

It was only some X-rays

I think

[supple mortar]

Pretty cool

[oak dawn]

Yeah

There were several MK11 FBs that I hoped would get brutalities too

Like Joker’s and Spawn’s.

Joker just go crazy beat them to death and Spawn shooting them into oblivion or exploding their head with that final slam

Would have been dope

Does MK11 still have Brutalities marked as X out of question mark?

[sterile canyon]

Cause the game is unbalanced as shit

[oak dawn]

I could tell from as early as the beta that the game was unbalanced even with the meagre four characters and three Kameos

[supple mortar]

Idk what the f u talking about

[supple mortar]

Yes

[sterile canyon]

East Coast Throwdown is in a few weeks as well and is the first FGC majors for the game. It's gonna be a disaster

[supple mortar]

That’s not my main problem with it tho

[oak dawn]

They SHOULD have nerfed damage across the board before releasing it and now Cage is teetering on the edge of being able to do a TOD

[supple mortar]

It’s super poorly polished

[sterile canyon]

That also it's clear the game was released unfinished cause WB needed quick cash after all their movies bombed this summer

Hence 10 fucking dollars for a single skin

[oak dawn]

Remember when games were released as one-time payments?

[supple mortar]

1 out of 10 matches I get disconnected

[oak dawn]

Good times

[supple mortar]

Nop

Too young for that

[oak dawn]

Hold up a minute do they have dedicated servers for multiplayer?

I thought it was a peer-to-peer connection

[supple mortar]

Do they?

[supple mortar]

Maybe

[supple mortar]

Still, it’s the game fault, not my connection

[sterile canyon]

A skin pack in MK11 was like 3 skins and gear for $7. The MK2 outfits bundle for Kitana Jade and Skarlet was $18. Now in MK1? A single skin for $10.

[oak dawn]

Why the fuck would they need to have dedicated servers when every online game is one versus one???

Servers are better for 4 players and further you don’t need them for 1v1

[supple mortar]

I literally talked through the chat to my opponent for about 2 minutes before it actually fell

[supple mortar]

Idk

[supple mortar]

Yeah, and it won’t get better

[sterile canyon]

And I won't be buying any of it. I do not support FTP pricing in full priced games

I already gave you $110 for the digital deluxe edition. That's more than enough

Skin packs for like $7 like MK11 that's fine but a single skin costing more than a dlc character? Nah

[supple mortar]

I won’t be able to contain myself for a good Ashrah or Mileena skin

[sterile canyon]

is that why all the base skins are all shit? To force us to pay for the good ones? Lol

[supple mortar]

That’s why I’m saving those red crystals for later

[supple mortar]

They’re not shit

I mean

The ones you buy with credits aren’t

The actually base ones are

[supple mortar]

At least Ashrah’s and Mileena’s are good

And the free one u get for scorpion in the KL

It’s pretty cool to me

[dawn sierra]

Yeah i wont be paying shit for skins

I have done it in lol

But lol is f2p

[cosmic pebble]

I feel like this game needed another few weeks of baking

[sturdy fjord]

Wait I can get the skin?

The DA scorp skin?

I haven’t put money into the game besides buying it

Still don’t play scorpion tho so I’m not gonna

But the fact you earn the currency by playing is nice

[supple mortar]

it is finite

so you can only buy some before you completely run out of it

and have to buy the currency

[acoustic fable]

Finally got this bad boy

[oak dawn]

Yo imagine if they went back and just dropped KP3 for Mortal Kombat 11

Like “here you go the last three characters, the character select is now a perfect square so stop complaining”

And a little bit of extra gear for those characters then end support again

[sturdy fjord]

And then no one would play it

They would do that to get the heat off mk1 while they fix things

[oak dawn]

Bingo

People still want that roster to be properly square shaped

And people were clamouring for Takeda and Ermac.

Imagine they finally solve the licensing issue and actually get Ash Williams in there too

He was planned but it fell through

[oak dawn]

I FUCKING called it

https://youtu.be/IhyNPZaef24?si=lV7qO1cydjpp1FMA

Johnny Cage can do 118% into brutality

I said that Cage is teetering on the edge of being able to TOD and he CAN TOD

Oh never mind it’s Invasion / towers I’m off to die of cringe now

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-jetstream-sam-dies-of-cringe-metal-gear-maxor-gif-24590613

[native dock]

MK1 does feel mostly polished to me.

[narrow jungle]

Didn’t Ed boon say or hint that we would get other types of fatalities in mk1??

[oak dawn]

I hope that means characters get more than two

[supple mortar]

Bruhh

[oak dawn]

It's so boring having just two fatals per character

[oak dawn]

It was actually like a 9-hit combo in Invasion or towers with an insane damage multiplier

[supple mortar]

Oh so it doesn’t count

[oak dawn]

Still it had me ranting because I spread misinformation on the internet regularly

Nah it doesn't count. The first three hits did like 300 something

[supple mortar]

I got more than a 100% in a single combo in invasion before

Didn’t kill tho

The enemy had 1600 health

[supple mortar]

[supple mortar]

Have u not played the game at all?

[supple mortar]

Now I have to discover a 76% percent combo for Mileena

Else, I won’t be happy

[oak dawn]

Aye

Good luck mate lmfao

I can’t wait for when NRS actually nerf damage across the board and people start lamenting about the “good old days” when they were previously able to casually take off more than 60% in one combo like killing the opponent so fast was healthy, fair and balanced gameplay

[supple mortar]

I won't even try lmao

[supple mortar]

Mileena is just super solid all around, her combos aren't even that crazy in damage

hoping they just nerf those who actually deserve

[oak dawn]

Kenshi and Cage for starters

Look I admit I don’t play the game but these characters are fucking insane

[supple mortar]

u don't play mk1?

[oak dawn]

Can’t.

I just watch videos

[supple mortar]

y?

[oak dawn]

No wifi at the moment, no next gen console, no money

YouTube videos are free lmao

[supple mortar]

oh

f

[supple mortar]

yep

[oak dawn]

I get that SonicFox is fucking insane but the dude was juggling mofos in the closed beta with Kenshi and his ancestor spirit

And he pulled a 50% as Liu Kang

Fifty fucking percent

That is why I expected them to nerf the damage but they didn’t

[supple mortar]

but those juggling combos do like... 30% afaik

[oak dawn]

Cage can hit 78%

[supple mortar]

yep, that's crazy

[oak dawn]

And he constantly restands his opponent and restarts his combos from the beginning again.

His scaling needs to be toned so he stops doing so much damage

I also actually expected them to reduce the cost of a combo breaker

I get you aren’t using as much bar in this game but three bars is still costly

[supple mortar]

that would be too much I think

[oak dawn]

Just to two bars even.

[supple mortar]

They should just add the fourth bar

[oak dawn]

Oh yeah that could work

Three bar breaker four bar cap

[supple mortar]

yep

[oak dawn]

And stop with this injustice bullshit by giving characters different health bars ffs

[supple mortar]

yep

[oak dawn]

Literally fifty fucking HP isn’t going to do anything.

Even a hundred HP

[supple mortar]

it's the most lazy way to nerf characters

[oak dawn]

That’s like three or four D1 pokes

[supple mortar]

pretty sure it's less than that lmao

[oak dawn]

Even so

Jax gives you 100 extra health

Sareena gives you 50

Kameos adjust your health bar so what’s the fucking point in reducing character max HP?

Everyone uses Sareena because she’s a wacky strong Kameo so everyone has +50hp

Whoever has 950 is playing the game normally and now Nitara is only 50 down

[supple mortar]

like, what's the fucking point on arguably the best kameo the game has to give us health??

ok if u choose Darrius or some shit

but Sareena?

[oak dawn]

I do not buy the excuse that the developers can’t foresee game balance.

My brother in christ you made the fucking video game

You should know how the characters you created, the game you fucking created, will work and get a general idea on game balance

I would have bought that excuse back in the early days of PS3, when online competitive gaming was just getting started and people were still figuring things out.

[supple mortar]

ok, in that I think u are wrong, often the developers don't play the game like us

[oak dawn]

But not now

[oak dawn]

I understand that too, but this is Mortal Kombat. Everyone has played Mortal Kombat

And NRS/Midway have made 12-plus MK games

[supple mortar]

in DBD we have this immense gallery of developers talking shit about their own game

[oak dawn]

BHVR are a whole different can of worms that should be left well the fuck alone

They don’t care and they never have

[supple mortar]

yep, I guess ur right

[oak dawn]

This is completely different from making a smash hit fighting game that isn’t a sequel.

MK1 is the twelfth mainline MK game

TWELVE

[supple mortar]

lmfao

[oak dawn]

GAMES

Games like Street Fighter and Smash are better balanced because they don’t completely reinvent themselves with every new entry too.

MK doesn’t have moveset consistency. You can’t master one character across every game because they don’t play the same across every game

[supple mortar]

Ok, but I don't see that as a bad thing for NRS

[oak dawn]

But even so, doesn’t that mean the MK devs should have tons of experience with tons of different types of gameplay to know how to balance a video game?

How is Sareena this powerful, and they still slap on a 50hp boost?

I understand Jax because he’s buff and he stays on the stage for a decent period of time, so the 100hp is supposed to offset the risk of him getting smacked, sure.

Sareena’s most popular move jails the opponent into blocking every time and puts insane pressure on them. She teleports off the stage instantly. She has no reason to give you extra HP and she does

[supple mortar]

pretty much

It's not like the kameos were a completely new concept too lmao

[oak dawn]

Assists have been around in fighting games for a decent while though I understand that this is the first time that NRS have done them (to my knowledge at least).

Kameos as a concept are fine. Kameos in their execution are pretty good. They tend to be fair as using them wrong can get you damaged because your Kameo being hurt takes away from your HP bar.

They did it much better than everyone I saw thought they would. I saw complaints about the idea of Kameos, but they are well executed.

Sareena needs some numbers tweaked, and the HP boost taken off and she’ll be fine.

I’m placing my bet right here and now that they’re gonna do none of that and just make her knife throw not boomerang back

I got no faith in game devs nowadays and it feels bad to be so cynical

I’m sleep now. See yas

[supple mortar]

I hate this game

[supple mortar]

probably, and that would make comboing with the knife throw virtually impossible

so she would go from S tier all the way down to C tier or some shit

[supple mortar]

gn

[native dock]

I think MK1 is really fun.

[supple mortar]

It is pretty impressive how EVERY SINGLE Reptile skin is ugly af

[lone ruin]

Has there been any info on a Sareena nerf yet? This one kameo is ruining the game for me... It's just too good. Using it should take the entire bar at the least.

[stone island]

I dont think it will getting nerfed

sadly

why what is causing you so much issue about her?

[sterile canyon]

weeks? More like months

Sareena aint getting nerfed. Just like how full metal jacqui never got nerfed in MKX. gotta git gud

plus its way too early for nerfs. Game needs to be out for a few months and have some FGC majors before a balance patch arrives

[stone island]

most of the kameos feel like BS to play against

thats just how it is

[supple mortar]

bruh

I swear

if the next season's invasions is as long as this one

I won't complete it

I spent the entire day doing this shit today

and haven't finished it yet

[sterile canyon]

yeah they really need to lower that. It makes no sense for the season to be like 50 days long if you can complete it in a few days

[dawn sierra]

I dunno

I mean

I half agree but i like being able to take my time

[sterile canyon]

well it doesnt need to last like a week but 50 days is way too long

like 20-30 would be better

[dawn sierra]

The more time i have to postpone it or not, the better

[sterile canyon]

I felt like I took my time when I finished it and there are still 30 days left

[dawn sierra]

What is trash is how gear is dripfed

Not having 50 days seasons

[odd owl]

I was looking at shujinkos move set and I found a typo

[cosmic pebble]

Sorry for the iphone photo but yea me too lol

Thats what I mean by a few weeks. There’s like weird dumb typos and shit everywhere

And invasions feels wrong. Idk why but it just does. No way someone made that with the intention of being “fun”

[short echo]

they made invasion and any other previous sp content for mtx , wake up.

they want u to pay.

[supple mortar]

It’s fun for the first 30 mins

After that, it just turns repetitive and boring

My main problem with it is not the fact that it is boring

[cosmic pebble]

Its fun for the first intro map and then I was left with a feeling of “there’s no way they dragged this out for 5 whole board game maps”

And to be fair they didnt drag it out 🙂

[supple mortar]

It’s the fact that u need to waste 5-6 hours of your time to get 100% of the rewards

[cosmic pebble]

They made it much much worse around map 3 instead

[supple mortar]

When u could be playing KL

[supple mortar]

Exactly

[cosmic pebble]

“In this fight you can’t see! Okay have fun! Also fuck you.”

[supple mortar]

Oh, that’s the one I hate the most

So fucking annoying

Still, if it were 2 boards per season, I would be complaining about it

Even if it were 3

The fourth one just seems like such a drag

Bruh

I don’t wanna be playing this shit anymore, but the game makes me so that I am sure to not leave a single Mileena skin out

Also, the size of the boards are ridiculous

Why do they have to be so fucking big?

[odd owl]

The way some of the kameos work are like kinda weird

Specifically kung Lao

Kameo scorpion and sub zero have completely unique moves and their base roster versions have most of their classic special moves but base roster kung Lao is missing his spin, teleport, and ground hat which were all given to his kameo version

[odd gull]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-cost-little-maneuver-51years-51-gif-24426899

POV: a raiden hit you once

[sterile canyon]

Why the fuck am I getting booted out of the damn arcade tower for not being online?

[sturdy fjord]

Because your progress can’t save into the system if you play offline

[narrow jungle]

So many people have been complaining about it

[sturdy fjord]

thats normal lol

online progress doesn't save if you arent

[odd gull]

It’s an arcade tower dawg…

[sturdy fjord]

Ok?

[oak dawn]

That’s exactly how I felt playing Dragon Ball FighterZ

You spend more time in fucking menus and loading screens and skipping cinematics than you do actually fighting.

Story mode at least

It was such a slog to unlock Android 21

[oak dawn]

I’m not cloud streaming the game. Let me play it without an internet connection. What the fuck is wrong with NRS and Warner Bros.?

[sturdy fjord]

My man

That’s fighting games

[oak dawn]

content that has been downloaded to my console / PC should be accessible to me

The game is taking up space on my device. Let me play the game I paid for

I understand that the developers curate the towers and send them out in batches but it’s a simple matter of sending them out WHEN a new set of towers are ready. After the game’s content cycle is over it goes on rotation. That means it’s all done and it’s all on my device or has been on my device before. That means I shouldn’t have to be on the internet for it

Fucking looking at you, MK11

I don’t care that this is how fighting games are now, because it isn’t how fighting games were in the past. It doesn’t have to be this way. They’re making it hard and frustrating on purpose.

And it’s definitely not like the AI needs you to be online to work either so why not just save the progress I’ve made and then sync up with the server later instead of kicking me out of the game mode in the middle of a match, when the servers even in MK11 are historically ass and constantly boot you off when your connection is always stable?

The literal only reason MK1 and MK11 are like this is because of their FarmVille Cash bullshit Dragon / Time Krystals that only exist so they can exploit FOMO with a rotating storefront and make people spend money to get things that they can’t afford to get with in-game freemium style currency in a PAID game. If people aren’t connected to the servers they could spoof or hack the numbers and buy everything because god forbid people be allowed to have all the content in the game without spending several hundreds of dollars extra on top of the original payment to actually be able to play the game in the first place.

That you’re saying “that’s [how] fighting games [are]” means you are defending them intentionally gating off chunks of the game that are taking up space on peoples’ devices, and we aren’t allowed to even use those parts of the product we purchased unless we have an internet connection on top of that. You are saying it’s okay for a company to prevent consumers from playing the game (using the product) that they bought

Turning the other cheek to these practises is exactly why games have gotten as horrible as they are today. You are letting them screw you over.

[sturdy fjord]

Sorry man, I haven’t read a word you’ve typed because ironically, I’ve been playing the game instead of complaining above it

[oak dawn]

Consoomer

[sturdy fjord]

Fun enjoyer*

[supple mortar]

💀💀💀

My main bought the game and thinks it’s ok for half of it not to work offline

💀💀

[sturdy fjord]

yes, that's what the point of a online game is

to work

y'know

online lmao

its ironic that the people who complain the most about not being able to play the game all the time end up just bitching online instead of playing anyway

[supple mortar]

Bruh

I have no social life

[sturdy fjord]

Oh boy can I tell

[supple mortar]

so all my free time is used to play this game

[sturdy fjord]

Anyways Gn

[supple mortar]

still got time to bitch about it online

[oak dawn]

https://youtu.be/XQPyhEKxW9I?si=bKOZK2PuIlf-jwJK

Kratos would be perfect for MK1.

It’s a new timeline and it’s an older, wiser Kratos.

[supple mortar]

give me my ultra instintict Shaggy

[oak dawn]

I actually expect Shaggy to be here too, but as a Kameo

[supple mortar]

bruh

no way you're being serious

[oak dawn]

I’ve said it before but his part of the Fatal Blow could be him making a sandwich and the main character eating it to regen 15% health, before the main character does 15-20% damage

With a full zoom in slowdown on the bite like when Rambo does a KB on the bug

They’ve had UI Shaggy show up in the WB logo for the MK movies with a full green glow

He exists. He is canon. He cannot be stopped

[supple mortar]

wait

they did?

wtf

[oak dawn]

Yeah go watch MK Legends. Scorpion’s Revenge, Battle, and Snowblind

UI Shaggy grabs Scorpion by the neck because he’s flipping around instead of Daffy Duck, and pulls him through the logo

https://youtu.be/XN_eN05cij0?si=7iNeGsNu-Mc7rkAX

[supple mortar]

if Shaggy shows up in mk1, I swear I'm playing GGST

[oak dawn]

Lmfao

The thing is, I believe NRS mentioned that the Kameo system would allow them to bring in guests from franchises where the IP holders don’t want them to get brutally torn apart for losing.

Kameos don’t get fatality’d.

So Shaggy could show up as a Kameo, that way he is in the game but he isn’t getting flayed alive

[supple mortar]

either that or I'm maining him

[oak dawn]

Because above all he is still a kids / teens show character

[supple mortar]

those who watched Scooby Doo when kids are no longer kids

[oak dawn]

True but the show is still primarily intended for younger audiences

[supple mortar]

I wanted to see Shaggy tearing up Reiko and giving him in pieces to Scooby Doo as treat

[oak dawn]

I wonder what Shaggy’s fatal could be

Damn it

[supple mortar]

lmao

[oak dawn]

Probably erasing them with 0.0000001% of his power

[supple mortar]

I got warned yesterday as well

[oak dawn]

But a much smaller decimal because Dyno hates me

It doesn’t really do anything tbh

All it does is delete your message

You won’t get punished unless a staff member steps in

[supple mortar]

lmao

[supple mortar]

yep

[little frost]

I thought it was just Battle of the Realms

Scorpion's Revenge has Scorpion grab Daffy

I forgor what Snow Blind does, but it doesn't involve Shaggy

[native dock]

I kinda hate how Ultra Instinct Shaggy became an actual thing

Like, it was a funny meme reference in the MK movie thing

But then Multiversus just actually made Shaggy a super saiyan or some shit

[acoustic fable]

Didn't it happen in a scooby doo movie

[native dock]

Maybe

Yeah, that's where the meme originated

Except Shaggy just got into fights, that's about it

[halcyon dagger]

It was the opening credits of animated mk movie where shaggy grabs scorpion

[acoustic fable]

I know that but i think its from a movie

[odd owl]

Why does motaro look cyberized what’s up with that

[high acorn]

he has mechanical legs

[odd owl]

Yeah but like y

[oak dawn]

What actually happened was Shaggy wiped an entire gang of big-ass buff bikers effortlessly.

I think this was around the same time that Goku unearthed his True Ultra Instinct, or the height of its memehood, so obviously people went for the lowest hanging fruit ‘shaggy ultra instinct’

And from there the meme exploded and they kept making him the singular most powerful character. Saying that he used barely a trillionth of his power for unfathomable feats and that 100% isn’t his limit

Honestly I think they were just pulling the piss out of Dragon Ball especially with how Beerus says Vegeta made him use… what was it 5% or 10% of his power? Something like that

Even though the Saiyans have gotten multitudes stronger they still don’t match Beerus

[oak dawn]

That doesn’t even make sense?
“Play the game that you can’t play instead of bitching online about not being able to play it”
?????

[untold briar]

Is anyone else experiencing a sound glitch? (Xbox) It just goes silent

Wondering if this has been addressed

[grizzled fern]

Both of y’all move on from this

[oak dawn]

Yeah alright

[grizzled fern]

And no I’m on PC

[untold briar]

Rip was wondering if its a common bug

Happens alot

[oak dawn]

THE TEA HOUSE

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[oak dawn]

BROO 💀💀💀💀💀

https://youtu.be/Yfmzlaxi1DQ?si=nS8r6aQyjroBLadH

I’M FUCKING DEAD AS HELL

Also when Geras’ fatal blow happens does he swap his opponent with the other Geras, or does his opponent come back?

[sturdy fjord]

Same side

[sturdy fjord]

I missed voice chat

[plucky harness]

bro was talking a lot of shit for someone who was still in the brutality time window

[sturdy fjord]

Dude really told the grappler to keep grabbing

Like I wasn’t gonna do that anyway

[acoustic fable]

Does anyone use jump cancels? I literally never see it done. Forgot it was a thing until yesterday

[sturdy fjord]

Like off of d2?

[acoustic fable]

Yeah

[oak dawn]

Bro don’t even with these people

Like seriously

The only winning move is to literally not play the game. That is how bad they hate you for playing the game.

If you win, you suck.
If you lose, you suck.
If you do a basic fucking combo string, you’re a spammer and you suck.

If you play a certain character and play them in the certain way that they are meant to be played, you suck.

[tall folio]

||Reptile looks so fine in mk1||

[sudden geode]

Shujinko is awful against kenshi. I just faced someone who tried it. One hit on sento and its gone forever and shujinko has to build the meter again.

kenshi gets hit with sento and its just kneeled over and he can resummon w/ meter.

like legit throwing a match bad strat

[leaden trail]

i agree

[oak dawn]

SHUJINKO COPIES GERAS TIME STOP I CANT EVEN

https://youtu.be/KsudjL7gGrM?si=8iifylXICv8lalqW