#Mortal Kombat 1

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thick rain
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who was already a undead wraith in the old timeline

toxic delta
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The biggest benefit I can think of, is the avoidance of ninja musical chairs

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Imagine trying to explain that, Noob used to be Subzero and the current Subzero is actually the brother of the first Subzero, but you don't really know which game is which

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Sure, fans will know it, but it's confusing af if you're getting into the lore

thick rain
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but its not that confusing

toxic delta
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It is

thick rain
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mk9 explains it

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how is it confusing but Hanzo being Noob randomly wouldnt be?

toxic delta
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Nobody is going to play mk9 lol it's a 10+ year old game

thick rain
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okay

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mk11 literally has Sub Zero call Noob his brother

humble shale
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Yah but this one is cuter so it’s alright

thick rain
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and in intros Sonya asks "you used to be the original Sub zero?"

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its really not that confusing

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the only time Kuai Liang wasnt the main subzero was mk1 and mythologies

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and now mk1 (2)

toxic delta
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It kinda is. You have to think of it with the perspective of a non-fan, someone who's getting into the stories

thick rain
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okay so say you are a new fan

toxic delta
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I know because I had to explain to my friends who are playing the game

thick rain
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telling your buddy "Noob used to be the OG Sub Zero" is just a cool fun fact

toxic delta
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And also I am fairly new because I only played mk11 and watched the other games as playthrough

thick rain
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its not at all needed to know to follow the game

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Noob is Sub Zeros brother

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thats all you need to really know

toxic delta
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And then they watch the movie get confused lol

thick rain
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i really dont see how thats confusing but now that Kuai Liang being Scorpion isnt

toxic delta
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Because it's a reset

humble shale
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Tbf we don’t even know if noob exists in this new era. As of now it’s always been the older brother of subzero who became noob, but they might make hanzo noob for all we know

thick rain
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but thats what we were talking about

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Hanzo being Noob is stupid and lazy

humble shale
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To you

thick rain
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how is it not Lazy

humble shale
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It might be interesting to others

toxic delta
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Yes exactly. I think it's not lazy

thick rain
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how is it not lazy

humble shale
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Maybe it gives them a chance to explore more of an identity for noob making it someone not tied to subzero

thick rain
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youre just playing, what you said earlier, musical chairs with your ninjas

toxic delta
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There's no musical chairs in this timeline, if subzero stays subzero, scorpion stays scorpion, and noob stays noob

thick rain
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okay but you cant just act like this timeline doesnt follow mk11

humble shale
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MK11 doesn’t exist

thick rain
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no matter how Boon says "its a whole new timeline" it still follows 11

humble shale
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That’s the whole point of this

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It’s a brand new era

thick rain
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but thats straight up wrong

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Kang in this game is the Kang from mk11

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thats been confirmed

humble shale
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We know mk11 was a thing but now it’s pretty much what the 3D era was to us at the beginning of the NRS era

toxic delta
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It doesn't matter because mk11 is an alternate universe at this point

thick rain
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thats not even a good example

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Armageddon was literally the first thing we see in mk9

humble shale
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And it starts a new era lol

thick rain
toxic delta
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An alternate universe means that the rules are different now

humble shale
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They will recap what mk11 was then it will start a new era

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That’s what they do

thick rain
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youre not getting what im saying

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just because Noob being Sub Zero was always a thing in this era doesnt mean in the actual timeline he was

toxic delta
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I get it, but also it means new players don't need to catch up on mk9-11 lore to understand mk1

thick rain
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doesnt help that Bi Han himself was in mk11

toxic delta
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I didn't know jack about the original timeline and it doesn't concern me because mk9-11 is a contained story

thick rain
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we know that the game has a endgame style ending so you will need to know mk11 anyways

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which is why im saying this reset was dumb

humble shale
toxic delta
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Exactly how can people not understand it?

thick rain
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its a contained story that doesnt even follow its own lore and story lol

humble shale
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It’s extremely common

toxic delta
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They don't need to follow something when they explicitly say they're throwing away the old lore into an alternate timeline/universe that doesn't concern the current one

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Sure they can make reference to it

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But it'll be like how Kenshi makes reference to Snowblind. It's an alternate timeline

thick rain
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but it does concern the newest one lol

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intros are a different thing entirely

toxic delta
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In what way? Not much tbh. For all we know this Liu Kang could've experienced thousands of timelines before mk1

humble shale
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Mortal kombat has pretty much become an anthology franchise where they have all these alternate universes set in eras and they don’t connect with one another

thick rain
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but in a big way

toxic delta
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No go ahead

humble shale
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Ed boon has already said in interviews this era is it’s own thing so

thick rain
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the end of the game is ||a bunch of multiverse shenanigans with the old timeslines||

toxic delta
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So it's still multiverse then

thick rain
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yeah

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thats why i think its dumb to even do a reset

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either keep it a reset or stick with the old timeline

toxic delta
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So yeah I don't see the issue if this is a different universe/timeline than mk11

thick rain
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now we get a game that doesnt know what it wants to do

toxic delta
humble shale
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We don’t know that though just yet, don’t be pessimistic

thick rain
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mk1

toxic delta
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How do you know lol

thick rain
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this

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it was confirmed true

humble shale
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They could pull it off we just have to wait and see

toxic delta
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So they converged the timelines. Tbh I don't see why that's an issue

thick rain
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youre saying you can play this game with no knowledge of the old ones and thats sadly wrong

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the ending will not make sense if you only play this one

humble shale
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Even if not, people play story mode once and then play their favorite characters for years to come forgetting the story and focusing on gameplay

thick rain
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but thats another issue

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"their favorite characters"

humble shale
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It’s a fighting game not a storytelling game

toxic delta
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You said this is the reason why the change is lazy right?

thick rain
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my favorite character isnt a dude who dealing with a disease

humble shale
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Most people don’t give a rats ass about the lore they just want to rip opponents apart

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Especially the casual general players

thick rain
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if you make Hanzo Noob then what does that make "Noob" exactly

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just a title you can slap on anyone?

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whats the interest with that?

toxic delta
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Same thing applies for Noob

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Because this Noob has a different origin, we don't even know his story yet

thick rain
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but all universes with Miles always had a Peter tbf

toxic delta
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How do you know it's all universe?

humble shale
# thick rain whats the interest with that?

The issue you’re having with this is you are making the assumption everyone thinks and agrees with what you think is best for the game. You’re extremely opinionated and there’s nothing wrong with that but you have to understand that other people can have varying opinions that differ from your own

thick rain
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i mean i am opinionated sure

humble shale
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I can tell you’re young lol

thick rain
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im 22

humble shale
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Exactly

toxic delta
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🍿

thick rain
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i asked what is cool with the idea that Noob is Hanzo now and i get "because people dont agree with you"

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then a hamfisted age insult

humble shale
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Like I said, nothing wrong with being how you are, you just gotta be open to the idea of others having different viewpoints 😂😂

thick rain
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but you arent giving me your viewpoint

toxic delta
thick rain
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what about Hanzo being Noob enhances Noob or Hanzo

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id rather Hanzo just be Hanzo

humble shale
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I don’t really have one?. I virtually know nothing about this game (9 weeks away too lmao) so I can’t form anything yet because they have given me nothing to base that on

toxic delta
thick rain
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im talking if it was past Hanzo being Noob

toxic delta
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But the same question could be how does Gwen Stacy being spiderman enhances Spiderman?

thick rain
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diversity

humble shale
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It was just giving an example, but if they write it well enough and can sell it to me, so be it.

toxic delta
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Objectively, it doesn't. It's just a retelling of a story of spiderman, on a different character and a different origin. And that in itself can be interesting or boring

thick rain
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the best thing about Miles is that he mostly helps around black communitys and is THEIR Spider-Man

humble shale
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I’m optimistic and open minded for what NRS can do this new era, we just have to wait and see what they deliver to us

thick rain
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admittedly i know very little about Spider Gwen or Spider-Man 2099

humble shale
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If I don’t like well guess what? I have 30 years of others mk games to play lol

thick rain
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ill still play the game cus the gameplay is great

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but ive mostly loved mk for its lore and story

toxic delta
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Same too

thick rain
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i think me growing up with the 3d era was a blessing and a curse

toxic delta
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It is, if you're not open-minded to changes

thick rain
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i love the NRS games

humble shale
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The 3D era 🥹 I’m so fucking excited to see how they improve on those beloved characters

thick rain
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im way more lax on changes than most people

humble shale
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It’s insane most of those characters were only in 1-2 games and are so beloved

thick rain
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even if it doesnt seem so here

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alot of changes they make in the NRS era annoy me but doesnt bother me all too much

toxic delta
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I know how it feels. I've experienced games for 10+ where I feel sad about them rebooting. It feels like they're throwing the old things away

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But eventually I understand

humble shale
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The game will already be a 10/10 when the single players doesn’t have the modifier bullshit

thick rain
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for me ive loved a character for most of my life and now hes a STD

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its that stuff that actually frustates me

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same with MK11 Frost

humble shale
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Maybe if you’re nice we will give you the tarkat

thick rain
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im grateful that hes seemingly in the game

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and ive seen some good theorys id love to see

toxic delta
humble shale
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It does explain the mask merch

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Mileena’s teeth don’t look like that

thick rain
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but i just know NRS is going to make him a monster with no lore and probably dumb

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sigh

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idk

humble shale
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I do like the whole new shark idea giving two rows of teeth

thick rain
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i actually like that change

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and unpopular opinion

toxic delta
thick rain
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i think that should be exclusive to Mileena

humble shale
thick rain
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it was a special edition for some country

humble shale
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Autocorrect be kicking my ass tonight 😩

toxic delta
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Now I see the store and it only has boring t-shirts lolol

thick rain
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it was a preorder reward

toxic delta
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I kinda not want to pre-order because I dislike Liu Kang merchs lol

thick rain
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i preordered the deluxe edition

toxic delta
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Ngl this is not bad for a t-shirt

thick rain
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i adore MK and im sure there will be a ton of shit i enjoy

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but the Baraka thing just stings

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i think the roster is fantastic

humble shale
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I haven’t preordered yet because I literally know nothing of this game besides a kameo system lol

thick rain
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but theres a chance this could be a godlike roster filled with different versions i dont like

humble shale
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Like what are the other modes?? We are 9 weeks away from launch and that’s not including the beta in august which could be as close as 3 weeks away for all we know

thick rain
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NRS marketing strikes again

humble shale
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Their marketing sucks ass

thick rain
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i really think people are getting themselfs to excited for a Konquest mode

toxic delta
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Tbh I might just pre-order anyway and cry when there's no Jade

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Even though I have very little hope these days

humble shale
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Jade will be a kameo don’t worry

thick rain
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lol

toxic delta
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It's going to sting as much as baraka to you

thick rain
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not having her?

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idk about that

toxic delta
humble shale
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Jade will be eventual dlc

toxic delta
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The whole thing is jarring af

humble shale
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She sells

thick rain
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id rather not have Baraka then him be completely shit

humble shale
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Don’t worry she will eventually make the game

toxic delta
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I understand Kameo from a gameplay perspective but from an aesthetic perspective? It's the stupidest thing ever

humble shale
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But by r00000r saying she’s not in the story mode there’s like a 5% she’s base roster

thick rain
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while i do think shes likely dlc

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shes not that popular of a character it seems

toxic delta
humble shale
thick rain
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i just find it weird that shes the only edenenian not in the game

toxic delta
thick rain
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i think its fine

toxic delta
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It stings

thick rain
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as long as we get get those skins as playable

toxic delta
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Bruh no

humble shale
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Jades fans are a very vocal minority. No offense to you Lin. I think Jade is fine but she doesn’t compete on the levels of Mileena deranged crew.

toxic delta
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Unpopular opinion but I hate retro skins

thick rain
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Boon said she was not popular in mk9

toxic delta
thick rain
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they brought her back in mk11 and shes not in mk1?

humble shale
thick rain
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idk i just dont think shes as popular as people think

toxic delta
thick rain
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kameos are getting skins

toxic delta
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Hopefully

thick rain
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so im sure there is more modern skins

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unless u hate modern skins too xD

toxic delta
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Depending on how modern

humble shale
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They will sell skins for kameos though so don’t you worry 🥲

toxic delta
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Yeah sure take my money (if it's good)

thick rain
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i think Cyrax, Sektor, and Frost look really good

toxic delta
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Ideally, they'd have mk1 skins for kameo, so at least some kameo won't look weird in a fight with mk1 characters

humble shale
toxic delta
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Mk11 Jade did have a glowup

thick rain
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tbf i dont think shes really a big mk fan

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could be wrong though

toxic delta
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I'm not arguing that she has a huge fanbase lol

thick rain
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wasnt she a comp player?

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like Dragon

humble shale
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I mean before mk11 Jade was literally just “Kitana’s bodyguard/friend”

thick rain
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sure but Smoke is that in mk9 but he was awesome

humble shale
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They gave her a little bit more of an identity but they also fucked it up by trying that love angle with Kotal

toxic delta
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Tbh I never liked most characters until mk11

humble shale
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Literally nobody cares about that lol.

thick rain
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doesnt help that they completely ruined Kotal

humble shale
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I never saw one praise of “thank god they gave insert character here a love interest”

toxic delta
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And I did watch mkx as before I played mk11. I never liked them until mk11. Especially Kung Lao. His design was ass and tbh kinda...racist imo

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I mean in mkx

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But in mk11 they finally gave him a glow up and he looks better than ever

thick rain
humble shale
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I just pulled mkx and mk9 out of storage today. Ironically planned on playing the 3D era-NRS era story mode again for fun 😂

thick rain
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but yeah like i said earlier

humble shale
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Also dusted off the good ol PlayStation 2 while I was there lol

thick rain
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i saw some theorys that was like "Baraka gets infected with the Tarkat disease by never leaving Mileenas side" and i think the idea of Knight Baraka is really cool

humble shale
thick rain
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i think Johnny and Sonya was done well

toxic delta
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But they divorced

thick rain
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but their relationship was still good

humble shale
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Do people even really care for the Kitana/ liu Kang thing? Or do they just want to play as them to rip the other apart lol

toxic delta
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Lmao

thick rain
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i like that Johnny wasnt a deadbeat dad

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and actually matured

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i think mk11 Kitana and Liu Kang was very cute

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way better than Kotal and Jade

humble shale
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Johnny/sonya is the only relationship that matter because it had a consequence: Cassie and the birth of kombat kids that played a major role in the NRS era

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Every other relationships is null if it does not affect the storyline and if they can sell it to the player base

thick rain
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Sindel and Shao i unironically liked

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their chapter is one of my favs

toxic delta
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I think having Sindel and Shao an evil power couple actually makes the retcon worth it

humble shale
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MK11 Kitana and liu Kang was awkward. These grown men programmed them to have a weird high school crush on each other. The most they ever do is hug. It was cringy lol

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I was one of the few who digged the retcon for Sindel lol

thick rain
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i think looking back at mk11 i will say

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they really made the female characters very bland looking

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then you have Sindel and Cetrion being very uh busty

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its just kinda weird

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i def think mk1 looks much better costume wise

humble shale
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Sindel has always been bustier so it fits her

thick rain
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sure but her daughter is flatter than cardboard xD

humble shale
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That kombat league skin really did the player base in lmao

toxic delta
humble shale
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Which would go against everything he stood for as a monk if you think about it

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They have no sexual desires

thick rain
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i dont think thats ever implied or said

toxic delta
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But then Liu Kang just decided to say f*ck it and start dating. And it's not like the senior monks are alive to stop them anyway barakek

humble shale
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Yeah they can’t act on it or else they would not be allowed to be a monk

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Kinda like nuns

toxic delta
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True but who's gonna kick them out lol

humble shale
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Devoting yourself to some higher power and never being allowed to act on mortal pleasures

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Idk the elder gods we hear so much bout? 😂

toxic delta
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They dieded except for one

humble shale
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They were useless anyways

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No loss

thick rain
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i just hope we get Shinnok again

toxic delta
humble shale
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Cetrion is the worst elder god they’ve ever created “she’s a goddess of virtue” oh but also she loves to do whatever her mother says to do even though it goes against everything virtuous. Like oh okay

thick rain
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meant booty

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but yeah i dont have a problem with the females models

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but their costumes are pretty boring

humble shale
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Kitana looks the worst she ever has in mk11 costume wise

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Her mk1 is such a glow up it’s not even funny

thick rain
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id agree if mk9 didnt exist

humble shale
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Mk9 is literally a stripper lol

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So glad boon has said they’re never doing that again

toxic delta
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Yeah lmfao

humble shale
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Okay I agree mk9 is the worst

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MK11 is right behind it tho

thick rain
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Kitana isnt even the worst example tbh

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Mileena was garbo

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she looks so much better in mk1 as well

humble shale
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Mileena’s flesh pit costume literally made my jaw drop in a way they did not want

toxic delta
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But Jade 😍

thick rain
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bland asf

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give me like MKD Jade

humble shale
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I was like why am I fighting a naked Mileena lol

thick rain
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i wish i was

humble shale
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If they give Jade a bit more coverage her mk9 look could be really nice

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Although I don’t get the useless chains everywhere but I guess it’s just for aesthetic purposes lol

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I’m just glad they figured out the hair tech

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Not everyone has to have bobs or updos anymore

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Except subzero and scorpion for some reason

toxic delta
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Her outfit is like a perfect balance of elegant assassin and ornate. I like how her hood looks and her hairstyle

toxic delta
# thick rain give me like MKD Jade

I lowkey think most of the earlier female outfits are trash lol it's like tacky stripper outfit or some sexy halloween costume you wear to some seedy party

thick rain
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idk i like it

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just give her pants

toxic delta
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Looks like a stereotype of a belly dancer lolol

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But yeah you can like it

thick rain
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i mean its better than this imo

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this ones better

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but i hate revenants

toxic delta
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It's not too decorated and not too bland

humble shale
thick rain
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its literally nothing

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just a bunch of cloth stuck together and painted green

toxic delta
# thick rain

And this one is a bunch of clothes stuck together and painted green except less fabric lol

thick rain
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her torso alone has more personality than the mk11 skin lol

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she looks like a LOTR elf

toxic delta
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Literally no LotR elf dress like that

thick rain
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true

humble shale
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Boner culture was crazy back in the day 😂😂 they had all these “assassin/ninja/bodyguard” type of females fighting in skimpy attire or even bikinis Lolol

thick rain
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jade looking real good

toxic delta
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I thought you mean the MKD outfit. I meant that no elf dress like that lol

thick rain
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oh

toxic delta
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Unless you're looking up some LotR videos on a site that's black and orange barakek

thick rain
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im not a big tanya fan but i like this design

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and shes hot asf in x

toxic delta
humble shale
toxic delta
humble shale
# thick rain

What was the point of the add-on skirt I still want to know

thick rain
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i actually like the skirt tbh

humble shale
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I just don’t understand what purpose it serves it’s not connected to the bodysuit lol

toxic delta
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Idk but, maybe because I'm ace (asexual). I don't think that showing skin = more attractive

thick rain
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rule of cool

humble shale
thick rain
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tbh i dont really care much about fanservice

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i dont need mk to go back to the days of mk9

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but like MK11 Mileena doesnt look good

humble shale
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Nope leave that in the past please lol

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Give me designs that actually make sense to fight in

toxic delta
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A speedo

humble shale
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I will say my one nitpick with mk1 Kitana is wtf are her heels. How can you even walk on that point lol

thick rain
humble shale
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It’s like walking on a curved blade

thick rain
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just give me cool ass looking skins

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look at Dvorah

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her base is so damn good

humble shale
thick rain
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i really feel bad for him

toxic delta
humble shale
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Ehhhh I’m indifferent. He never sold me his character. His protagonist was not likable in the least

thick rain
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close enough tbh

humble shale
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Did they ever say what race he was now

thick rain
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i think its his best design

humble shale
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This is gonna be a loooonnggg week of waiting with no mk1 news 😩 Ed’s gonna make it all mk2 movie news with him being there currently

thick rain
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ik its kinda shitty to say

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but im really glad the roster got leaked

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other wise this wait would be completely unbearable

humble shale
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We would literally be dying otherwise lol

thick rain
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like we have a good idea what next week will reveal and its still exciting!

humble shale
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Now it’s just the wait of “is this leak real, let’s see some concrete proof the 3D era is here”

thick rain
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i dont think there is any doubting it now tbh

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General Shao and Geras seals it for me

humble shale
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There’s always doubt until you see it revealed

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They could’ve switched up the roster more than we know of

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All we have to go off of is a leak people saw months to a year ago

thick rain
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yeah like for Example Baraka is the only leaked character that could not be in the game

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since Rain was confirmed, we know about General Shao, and we hear Geras in the trailer

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the 19 are for sure in imo

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but the other 4 was 50/50

humble shale
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The bio for rain was a good step in the leak’s direction forsure

thick rain
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it would be my luck that the one i want the most of the 4 dont make it

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hell Rain alone was a good step xD

humble shale
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Nobody is just randomly guessing “general shao”

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I’m just cautious is all lol

thick rain
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actually the fake leak had General Shao

humble shale
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Like I want the leaks to be real obviously but it’s kinda like the feeling of no way this is gonna be real?? I’m actually going to see this character after 17 years

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Too good to be true feeling lol

thick rain
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I think Ashrah is the biggest surprise

humble shale
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She was a pretty unique character move play wise and im excited to see her expanded upon

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I’m just glad we aren’t getting the mk9 roster again and they’re giving the 3D era a chance to shine

thick rain
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My thing is what's the point of bringing them back if you're gonna completely change em

humble shale
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I don’t think they’ll do that, but will build off what they had and just expand on it in a certain direction

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If they take a character that had something unique about them and changed them into something entirely new that would defeat the purpose of what the original design brought

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Like if they take away Nitara’s wings and she’s not a vampire why even say that’s still Nitara

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That would be like removing Mileena’s teeth

thick rain
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Or Baraka being a Tarkatan

humble shale
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Lolol be patient first

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We don’t know the full story on that just yet

thick rain
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Tru

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But if he's a mindless mutant you can expect a rant lol

humble shale
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I have no doubt lol

thick rain
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Will say it's kind weird the characters they have revealed and who they haven't

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You'd think characters like Baraka and Reptile they'd have shown off already

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And Smoke and Rain saved till later

humble shale
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They are saving reptile

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Might be one of the last revealed

thick rain
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I don't think so

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I think they're saving characters like Shao, Havik, and Reiko till the end

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Will say if they just reveal one character Friday NRS sucks lool

humble shale
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It will hopefully be another trailer featuring a group

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Like edenians or Outworld or 3D returns

brave olive
#

ashrah dont look like no villain tho

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what

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WAIT

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quan chi and Ermac arent making it ???

narrow jungle
#

We don’t know

brave olive
#

well idrc about ermac

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BUT WHY QUAN CHI QuanGasp

dawn sparrow
#

Some people are saying that King Jerrod could be Havik

brave olive
#

God no

dawn sparrow
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No like Havik is disguised as him

brave olive
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God no

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wait so KP1 leak is wrong?

native dock
#

Kung Lao looks like a downgrade version of MK11 ngl

night vine
#

i think its likely they are refering to characthers that have never been an nrs game

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or revamped versions

night vine
brave olive
#

so they will be in the game?

night vine
#

aparently by rooor whos the most reliable person vs the amazon leak of the dlc

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who has the script of the story and was shocked to see ermac and quanchi as dlc

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they are probably in a similar situation to mkx tanya and boraicho
mk11 sheeva @brave olive

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present in the story as npcs, but made dlc for ... reasons?

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methinks they realized a kombat pack with sonya kano takeda as the mk characthers wouldnt sell for shit

brave olive
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lol

night vine
#

ofc grain of salt but i think its an educated guess

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we dont know two slots but its beyondf likely kano and sonya will be in because they are like a bad cold sore that just wont go away

narrow jungle
#

Ermac confirmed

brave olive
#

NOOO

forest cave
# thick rain I think Ashrah is the biggest surprise

popularity and moveset wise yeah, but her design and story was one of the most interesting in the 3d era imo- most 3d era women have different color bikinis, so she stood out because of that. nitara is the least surprising though cuz she just LOOKS cool, they dont have to do much to revamp (no pun intended) her. But I totally agree with ur point about not bringing them back just to completely change them, i know this is a new era and all but like... i want to see the characters i know and love not the same name applied to someone completely different. im just hoping theyre recognizable at least, cuz im sure theyll have wild stories since the current head writer doesnt seem to care abou tht e existing lore. (sindel look bad she must be evil type of bs)

tribal axle
#

Shokans seeing Sheeva laying (dead?) on the ground in front of Sindel, blindly believing her that Kitana did it, and reuniting an entire army to fight the Special Forces in the span of hours during Aftermath was so stupid

toxic delta
#

Maybe Shokans don't have too high IQ because they're naturally strong lol

blissful folio
humble shale
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Well this is bad

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Comic con reveal might get cancelled

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With the sag-aftra strike going on it effects voice actors

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And Yuri has changed his name on Twitter

thick rain
#

Good for him

humble shale
#

I’m going to guess they will drop the trailer as planned but all the voice actors who were supposed to be there and surprise guests will not attend

humble shale
#

Actually video games might be excluded from this

sour lily
# narrow jungle Ermac confirmed

Or maybe a white ninja with the power of magnetism and metal?

Maybe Khrome. Maybe not Khrome. Maybe Metallik. Or something cool and metal-related.

thick rain
hard hornet
#

GET OMNI MAN, PEACEMAKER AND HOMELANDER OUT OF THE DLC..

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NRS literally out here adding the most useless and floppy, overrated and mediocore characters ever 💀

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bland ahh mfs

lime mica
#

I don't care about Peacemaker but Omni-Man and Homelander are sick

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Plus we're getting Quan Chi Ermac and Takeda which is a W

hard hornet
#

I know the only W in DLC 💀

lime mica
#

No

hard hornet
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They're like super man from walmart, poorly written and are copies

lime mica
#

Just because my taste is different than yours doesn't make mine "boring" that's a very immature way of defending your point

toxic delta
#

I wonder how they gonna explain Takeda lol

hard hornet
#

(not tryna make a connection abt superman)

lime mica
toxic delta
#

Takeda isn't a title

hard hornet
lime mica
hard hornet
#

We dont know if Takeda 1 or 2 is gonna get added

toxic delta
#

That's like Johnny being a title lol

lime mica
hard hornet
#

THATS A DIFF ONE

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But yeah most of the DLC aint canon rlly

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like mileena

lime mica
#

I'm gonna main Homelander and laser beam spam people just to spite the KP1 haters

hard hornet
#

yeah whatever omni man and homelander are basic looking characters

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I DONT MIND RLLY

toxic delta
#

I agree that they're too similar to be included in the same game

hard hornet
#

so i could care less, Also we have no female guest character

hard hornet
#

Also sorry if i sound rude that's just how the way i talk 😭

brave olive
#

why do people misuse the word title lol

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a title can be passed down

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Noob Saibot and Takeda are not titles

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Nightwolf and Kahn are titles

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because they can be passed down after someone already with that title dies

runic parcel
#

lmao

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Why does NRS have such goofy ahh animations

brave olive
#

e.g. in the midway era if Bi-Han died as Noob Quan Chi wouldn't find another person to resurrect and call Noob

sacred arch
#

The only criticism I understand to some degree is “why would you have two different evil Supermen parodies from the same streaming service in the same Kombat pack,” I can understand that criticism (although I also would argue that it’s awesome that they get to fight against each other) but the criticism of “their visual design is too bland” is not really applicable IMO. And if you really delve into their personalities and motivations they’re not actually that similar besides their powers and having Superman-based costumes despite being evil

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Omniman is more of a Genghis Kahn type pretending to be a hero of the people on his own while Homelander is essentially Joffrey Baratheon if he was in Superman’s body while being protected by an evil corporation

brave olive
#

“why would you have two different evil Supermen parodies from the same streaming service in the same Kombat pack,”

even this critism makes no sense and is very reductive

#

only homelander is an evil superman

narrow jungle
brave olive
#

no

dawn sparrow
#

Both have different moves

brave olive
#

exactly lol

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omni-man cant use laser beams from his eyes

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also the two havve very different personalities

brittle hazel
#

Thoughts on Human Reptile coming back?
Considering the change to the other ninjas we had, I could see them making Reptile human again. But idk, it just feels kinda wrong.

dawn sierra
#

The personality thing is whatever, they can do full diff VAs for particular skins

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But doing a guest skin for a guest of a whole diff franchise won't fly

night vine
#

i hope kelly hu voices li mei or ashrah

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i dont think theyd make an anouncement if she was just going back to voicing sindel, and mara junot´s incarnation of her got universal acclaim

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especially since it would also sorta be in poor taste 😭

toxic delta
brave olive
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Exactly

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So smoke can become noob

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Get rekt

toxic delta
#

No

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He's already noob

brave olive
dawn sierra
#

Yeah i don't think Kelly Hu will do Sindel either

humble shale
#

Comic con reveal is safe for now

brave olive
#

when is it

thick rain
#

next friday

brave olive
#

what reveal

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like the Lin Kuei styled one?

thick rain
#

there is a SDCC panel

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remember in mk11 the Noob Reveal?

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its the same place/thing

brave olive
#

ok

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so its not a Lin Kuei styled one

thick rain
#

no

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we have all the Lin Kuei characters

brave olive
#

no im asking will there be another reveal trailer

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similiar to the one we had with smoake and rian

thick rain
#

yes there is

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with Kelly Hu

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who plays mkx sindel, Dvorah, and Ashrah in the new movie

dawn sparrow
#

Oh?

brave olive
#

so a movie trailer?

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or a game trailer?

narrow jungle
#

Game

brave olive
#

ok

#

next friday?

narrow jungle
blissful folio
#

I wish i could go to sdcc but i live in northern California now RIP

dawn sparrow
#

Oh Dvorah. That's cool

thick rain
#

most likely fake

lime mica
#

^

sacred arch
#

Doesn’t add up unless it’s Tanya as the only roster character and the other two are cameos

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And why wouldn’t a “femme fatale” trailer include Nitara

toxic aurora
humble shale
night vine
#

kira and dvorah are naur goes

#

why would genshin be at evo

#

and mihoyo´s security is papper thin everything they do is leaked MONTHS in advanced on several platforms

native dock
#

Mortal Kombat 1 should have standard classic 1v1 mode by default

thick rain
#

Or you could just not use kameos

night vine
#

Kameos are whats replacing variants, characthers blantantly do not work beyond a couple of routes witout them

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And i dont see them having a secret folder of 3 special moves, forward throw and the other half of the fatal blow

#

Laying around

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Its just not realistic accept the kameos

narrow jungle
lime mica
#

it won't

#

they have said time and time again that kameos are integral to the game

#

there will be no classic 1v1 mode

narrow jungle
#

They can always change their mind, btw every 2nd intro to Kombat kast was just characters by themselves without kameos

thick rain
#

It's almost like the devs have the devs tools

narrow jungle
#

They wouldn’t of done that for no reason

night vine
#

but gameplay wise, impossible

dawn sierra
#

I dunno

#

A kameo-less mode seems like a no-brainer

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It's just would have been obvious a noticeable portion of the fanbase would want it since the idea for kameo showed up

#

In a game centered around kameos probably wouldnt be the main competitive mode, but still

bitter otter
#

It doesn’t fit the way the entire games setup

#

You can’t even break from combos without a kameo

toxic delta
#

Kameo with invisible skin

dawn sierra
#

Yeah in the end, it's all workable

#

We had handless modes

#

Idr if legless too

#

Ultimately, if added, the game won't be centered around it. But i deffo think it should be added

thick rain
#

You guys think we will get repeat dlc again?

night vine
#

how do you replace 3 moves

dawn sierra
#

If Skarlet manages to get in, we would

night vine
#

genuinly

#

where are you getting those animations

#

the characthers are literaly designed around having a kameo , they are bare bones as shit witout the kameos

#

in the place of variations we have kameos whats so hard to understand

thick rain
#

I feel like anyone who has played the stress test would know how 1v1 wouldn't work

#

You do not get enough tools for it too even be remotely fun

night vine
#

its literaly not a secundary characthers, its basicaly your variation

dawn sierra
#

Character are designed to have arm moves and we still had armless kombat

#

Like

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Gurl

#

I dunno whats so difficult to understand

night vine
#

its literaly not tag mode, this isnt a seperate characther these are special moves that literaly are replacing the variation system you cannot take them out

#

do you really think nrs is gonna dedicate resources to animate over 20 kameos to serve as variations, forward throw, half of the fatal blow and fatalities

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to have a singular variation for characthers to be solo?

#

why would anyone use kameos if they all have that power budget allocated to shit designed specificaly for them

#

its a universal variation pool of special moves all characthers can pick from, theres never going to be a 1 v1 mode because its not 2 v2 anyways

thick rain
#

Anyone who wants 1v1 literally doesn't realize the game wouldnt work

#

It would not be fun

dawn sierra
#

Man i must be speaking alien

night vine
#

theres not going to be a 1 v1 mode witout kameos

#

ever

#

get in your head

thick rain
#

I mean I've actually played the game shrug

sudden geode
#

hard disagree

thick rain
#

Without Kameos it's the same combo over and over

night vine
#

i sincerely dont get why people dont understand in the place of variations we have kameos, its not that complicated bro

sudden geode
#

the game is playable without assists for people who dont want them

thick rain
#

Kameos is what gives you any sort of variety

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"playable" is the key word

night vine
#

its playable but is it fun or optimal? no

sudden geode
#

yeah its fun

thick rain
#

It's not

night vine
#

its like saying " oh it functional to boil an egg in the sun"

thick rain
#

It would be like playing mk11 but If it didn't have KBs

night vine
#

when youre supposed to use the oven

dawn sierra
#

I don't think anyone with realistic expectations expects that a game centered around kameos to be properly without them

sudden geode
#

it may not be better than assists but you can play a full fledged fighting game without them

dawn sierra
#

All i expect/want is a "kameoless" Kombat modifier IF I WANT

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Thats all

thick rain
#

But it would be the more bare bones unfun fighting game

#

This isn't like MvC where each character has tons of options outside of assist

night vine
#

yeah but im telling you its not gonna happen because they put way too more work on kameos and would require even more work to have a kameoless way

tribal axle
#

Why did my boy Kenshi bring his kameo from home? No one told him there’d be plenty to choose at the arena???

sudden geode
#

kenshi only needs himself n his family

thick rain
#

Kenshi is a exception

#

He doesn't really need Kameos

#

Hopefully more characters like him

sudden geode
#

the only character who needed kameos was sub zero

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in the stress test

#

he gets silly with them

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id imagine johnny does too to cover his taunt stuff

thick rain
#

I mean Kang and Kitana did

narrow jungle
#

You can string combos like any Mk game without actually using Kameos

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People have done 40% combos without them

night vine
#

you can play mkx witout variations

#

youre not supposed to

#

do you get it or?

dawn sierra
#

Why is it so hard to grasp that most people who want a kameoless mode, are probably aware of that?

thick rain
#

You know

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You could just not use kameos

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But I bet your big brain thought of that too

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"but my opponent could learn how to play the game :((("

dawn sierra
#

I know i can do that

sudden geode
#

people wanted gear mode

thick rain
#

Gear mode was a completely different thing

dawn sierra
#

But if it's that simple then NRS can do a modifier that disables them too lol

sudden geode
#

theres an audience for it is all im saying

thick rain
#

That was variations but you had to have RNG to get the variations

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But you can just not use kameos

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And go on your day doing 40% combos

sudden geode
#

just play kenshi problem solved paradinhja

thick rain
#

But then you lose because you have one string to do and it's easy to counter

sudden geode
#

i wonder what the damage will look when the game launches

#

cos it def needs better scaling

toxic delta
#

I wonder why people hate kameos

#

Tbh for me it's because they look jarring

sudden geode
#

from what i played the cooldown needs to be a bit longer

toxic delta
#

Like, imagine I go out and throw hands with some dudes and Charlie Chaplin or *insert retro character shows up to help me

sudden geode
#

it looks silly because they constantly come out

#

thats my only issue w/ them

toxic delta
#

I think they look silly because they look silly

#

Like, the playable characters are modern, but they're retro

sudden geode
#

do a throw, they run in to do the throw, run away, call them back to do a special move

#

like why u run off the screen first place lel

toxic delta
#

They better have modern skins or I'll make a mod that turns them invisible

sudden geode
#

The story mode will make you play without kameos a couple times

toxic delta
sudden geode
#

overall i really enjoyed the stress test

#

give us invisible reptile assist

thick rain
#

I think Kameos should be either the same or a bit faster

#

I don't think they should be available less

sudden geode
#

patch notes bout to have cooldown adjustments on the godly assists

thick rain
#

Cool down timer is the same for each Kameo

sudden geode
#

same thing with everyone having 1000 health

#

someone getting bumped to 950

tribal axle
#

I never like these hp changes

#

Messes up my percentage perspective

#

Is that somehow a good balance option for pro play?

#

Arent there more creative ways to adjust a character

narrow jungle
#

After bi Han dies again

thick rain
#

I really hope Bi Han doesn't die or turn evil

#

He can be a anti hero but pls not just Noob again

dawn sparrow
#

What's wrong with him as Noob?

brave olive
#

cliche

thick rain
#

also for 1v1 happening... theyd have to completely made a new fatal blow for every character

#

so its not gonna happen

toxic delta
#

Literally 2 reasons

brave olive
#

b-b-but Noob is Boon backwards

blissful folio
#

Well I don't think he's going to turn evil

#

he's already evil

#

or at least an asshole

thick rain
#

being a asshole doesnt mean ur evil though

#

whats the point of resetting the timeline if youre just gonna redo the same exact plot points

dawn sparrow
runic parcel
#

Kameos are probably the best idea the series has had

#

Why would you want a 1v1 experience lmao

magic bone
narrow jungle
#

Same reason people have been playing Mk for the last 30 years.
1v1 has always been better than tag team or assist fighting games, it’s why sf tekken and Mk have been on top for so many years.

native dock
#

Is Kameo Sub-Zero gonna be Kuai?

toxic delta
#

If he has thick eyebrows lol

night vine
#

its already a 1 v1 experience with another characther throwing in some moves you are all soo

thick rain
#

Istg people act like Kameos is this super hard thing

#

It's literally a button press

brave olive
#

that is hard

thick rain
#

True

#

Hope they don't play SF that has 6 gasp buttons

brave olive
dawn sparrow
thick rain
#

Damn Luke and Shang on the same year

full prism
#

It's Jean Claude Van Damme

#

It's literally been said Van Damme is gonna play him

thick rain
#

No lol

#

It's a skin

narrow jungle
tribal axle
#

Oh damn

#

Daisuke Tsuji voicing Scorpion

#

Jin Sakai

brave olive
#

Is that smoke

tribal axle
#

Thats Takeda Senior

toxic delta
magic bone
thick rain
#

they asked why do you want a 1v1 game then replied cus its a fighting game

#

implying 3v3 arent fighting games

magic bone
#

that’s not what i meant

#

but you didn’t have to rant about me being bad smh

dawn sparrow
#

Does Goro's face in mk1 kinda look like Kabal's human face in 11?

night vine
#

i cant wait for comic con this friday

#

but nrs with the unecessary gaps

#

last week couldve EASLY had a kombat kast for mileena, lao raiden

#

or maybe even smoke and rain

lunar leaf
#

Have you guys seen Dynasty's video on the "leaked" roster?\

grizzled fern
# lunar leaf Have you guys seen Dynasty's video on the "leaked" roster?\

MORTAL KOMBAT 1 ROSTER LEAK? Did all but 2 characters on the MK1 roster ALREADY get revealed? In this video, we'll be breaking down the recent alleged rumored roster based on an updated rumor after we had 2 credible sources provide 19 characters last week! If what we're getting is true, we'll be seeing the likes of Rain, Baraka, Geras & Shao Kah...

▶ Play video
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Embed assist

lunar leaf
#

Yep Thats the supposed roster

#

On the base I could see all of them at least having a story in the game, but Geras idk?

grizzled fern
#

That would be interesting

thick rain
#

Geras def could

lunar leaf
#

Either they make him loyal to Liu Kang or he stops with the whole time thing

#

I have an Idea where Geras tried to let Goro kill the great kung lao but he's to late because Kung Lao defeated him and Shang Tsung, 9 wins for Earthrealm after Geras form the Black Dragon in support of the old king of Outworld Onaga

#

Then Onaga could lead the tournament for outworld and thats how the story starts

lunar leaf
grizzled fern
#

Tbh I haven’t even looked at it

#

I think the only “leak” I saw was the first Amazon one

lunar leaf
#

With the dlc

grizzled fern
#

Yeah that one

lunar leaf
#

Makes sense since Amazon made The Boys and Invincible

lunar leaf
#

Hope they save Jax for KP2

grizzled fern
lunar leaf
#

I don't see myself killing John Cena

#

Omni Man vs Homelander is gonna be perfect

grizzled fern
lunar leaf
#

He's also gonna be invisible

#

Is it me or am I the only who thinks Arthur Morgan could be in MK1 as a dlc?

brave olive
magic bone
brave olive
sacred arch
#

Has anyone heard of this YouTube channel before

#

He posts insane fanfiction about Mortal Kombat merging with like Disney movies and whatnot

#

And then actually draws good looking art concepts about his insane art ideas like “what if Baraka was responsible for the Beauty and the Beast fairytale”

#

Discovered that channel earlier today and it’s a fucking trip

sour lily
brave olive
sudden geode
#

Geras shares knowledge across timeliness

narrow jungle
#

Geras gonna tell general Shao he was a khan in previous timeline and Liu kang took that away from him

night vine
#

im happy geras gets a second chance

narrow jungle
#

**Bi Han after Geras tells him scorpion killed him and leaves out that it was a completely different person : **

lunar leaf
sour lily
#

I’m thinking Geras might wanna die

bitter otter
#

So assuming he escaped the sea of blood like the intro line with Raiden

#

Is he not still just trapped in the neatherealm mayhaps

#

Or did aftermath retcon that

#

Was he in the netherrealm when Shao caved his skull in

lime mica
#

Intro lines aren't canon

tribal axle
#

He’s in chaosrealm

#

With Havik

dawn sparrow
thick rain
#

He came back did he not?

dawn sparrow
#

Yeah but that was the last time we saw him in the story after that

#

He could still return in 1

thick rain
#

Yay

#

Hopefully its a female characters reveals or a 3d era reveal

dawn sparrow
#

I'm hoping for Reiko

thick rain
#

Til MKvsDC is canon cus of a single scene in mk11

night vine
#

im hoping for sindel, ashrah, nitara and li mei, tanya as well

thick rain
#

Half the roster

night vine
#

just the women

#

and the way we are getting at lightning speed to september it makes sense

thick rain
#

Probably

#

Idk I think we will get 2 reveals at most Friday

#

Another 2 2 weeks after

#

Then a story trailer with a bunch of reveals

night vine
#

they need to speed up these kombat kasts

#

i also think its stupid that we got a reveal for rain and smoke followed by a kombat kast for two characthers weve knonw about for weeks

thick rain
#

I mean that's fine

#

I think not having a kast last week was stupid though

#

As of rn we have 8(?) Characters without a cast

night vine
#

8?

thick rain
#

I'm not sure if Kenshi, Sub, and Kitana will get one

night vine
#

oh i get what you mean then

thick rain
#

The gameplay characters of mk11 did

night vine
#

i wish they had because we couldve used a deeper look into their intended mechanics and the new builds

#

but at this point i doubt it

thick rain
#

Actually it's 9

#

Forgot about Kang

night vine
#

but honestly last week we shouldve gotten rain and smoke to keep the hype train up

thick rain
#

Sub, Kang, Kitana, Kenshi, Mileena, Raiden, Lao, Smoke, Rain

night vine
#

then this week before the comic con on tuesday for mileena and raiden or kung lao

thick rain
#

We should have got one last week going over Raiden and Lao

#

Though with Lao I feel like they're hiding stuff with him

night vine
#

i mean mileenas new mouth design had her trend for several days it would make sense to have her as soon as possible

thick rain
#

I'd imagine Baraka would be revealed soonish too

#

So they could explain that more

night vine
#

i really want rain kombat kast to put the " zoner" complaints to rest

thick rain
#

Weird theory but I think they have been only showing characters with the least amount of changes

night vine
#

i say this because calling him the next cetrion when he has like 2 knock ups and a string knock up just in that short trailer was pissing me awf

night vine
thick rain
#

ive been thinking this for a bit

#

shes not really tho

#

id say the only character we have seen changed alot is Raiden and Rain

#

i think the reason we havent seen basic characters like Baraka and Reptile is cus they got big changes

toxic delta
#

Tbf they all have big changes

lunar leaf
#

I have an Idea were either Kano or Tremor are leading the black dragon, they have a deal with Onaga. And one of the Black Dragons most strongest figther is Jax or Sonya

narrow jungle
#

Would like rain to have some moves or a stance without the staff, would be interesting

thick rain
#

he means the comic con panel

lime mica
#

oh

thick rain
#

its on friday and Kelly Hu is there for a unknown character

dawn sparrow
#

It's probably for that upcoming Johnny Cage movie

thick rain
#

It's for mk1

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Even says "Kelly hu as a unannounced character revealed at the show"

lunar leaf
grizzled fern
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embed assist

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pretty gooood but i like this one more

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hold on

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🔥

lunar leaf
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Dope

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3d era is pretty cool

dawn sparrow
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Still hoping for Reiko and Motaro

lunar leaf
narrow jungle
sacred arch
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rain being a zoner is fine

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JP totally rules in sf6

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when the devs were showing off johnny they said specifically that he was a rushdown to counter zoners which means there will be zoners

night vine
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Nrs just doesnt know how to make a zoner

sacred arch
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I slightly disagree. They can make zoners fine, and some of them have been top tier, and annoyingly so, they just haven’t done a great job making characters that can COUNTER zoners yet. But they seem to be actively fixing this with Johnny at least

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And I wouldn’t be surprised if Reiko or whoever was also designed to completely shut down zoners

night vine
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skarlet was slightly more fun because she had a bunch of difrent projectiles that enhanced creativity but even then you couldnt kombo betwen them

thick rain
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It's kinda sad seeing Max's Noob reveal and how excited he was and then watch his MK1 Smoke reveal

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I think mk11 broke him lol

narrow jungle
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He said he needs to see more gameplay

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Also might’ve been bc of the hair shaolul

lament thorn
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yeah lol, it felt sad when i saw his reaction to the last trailer

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he is not as excited

thick rain
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He's not

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Hasn't been since the first time he played mk1

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The second he tried the stress test it looked like he wants to hate it

narrow jungle
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The main thing he doesn’t like is the movement

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That’s really it from what I remember

thick rain
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Wouldn't surprise me if Smoke gets a mk9 skin

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I can see his skins being MK1, MK9, Cyborg (if we are lucky, and a new mk1 skin

toxic delta
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Would be funny if Scorpion gets Subzero skins from previous games, and Subzero gets Noob skins from previous games

thick rain
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I doubt it tbh

toxic delta
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Seeing that some of them do get previous game skins in mk11

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I mean a more boring version would be Scorpion gets previous Scorpion skins and Subzero gets previous Subzero skins

thick rain
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Will say it was cool when Sub had Noob moves in inj3

toxic delta
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It's not boring it's just less interesting than the former

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Unless they give us the topless guy wearing blue life jacket style skin lol

thick rain
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Idk seeing a Noob skin but doing sub zero things would be weird

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Or Scorpion and Sub

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Like this would mean Scorpion would get a single skin

toxic delta
thick rain
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Id rather have klassic and new skins then my character getting skins of a different character

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Bi Han is Sub he's not Noob

toxic delta
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Iirc some characters have skins in mk11 that are throwback to other characters in previous games but not in mk11

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I don't see the problem if Bi Han subzero has skins that refers Noob or Scorpion (if he's Kuai Liang) that refers to Subzero/Tundra

thick rain
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Only one that comes to mind is Quan skins for Baraka and Kano

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But that's just a reference to Richard Divizio

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There's the scorpion reptile skin ig

native dock
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Lol I had a dream where I saw Kotal Kahn as kameo fighter

thick rain
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Saw into the future of kp2

native dock
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Indeed. Another DLC kameo fighter.

tribal axle
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Wheelchair Kotal Kameo?? 😱😱

thick rain
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KK in a wheelchair

native dock
dawn sparrow
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I honestly hate that joke for Kotal Kahn

thick rain
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Top 5 worst MK characters for me

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Dude gets hard carried by his design and gameplay

grizzled fern
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They did him so dirty in 11

humble shale
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2 more days 🤗

lime mica
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dude is a clown an has no idea what the fuck he's doing half the time

toxic delta
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Real

thick rain
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I love Raiden

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He's just written weird

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"let's give him character progression then kill him and make him mk9 again"

toxic delta
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It's not like dark raiden is amazing either

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I wouldn't say becoming an asshole is a good character progression lol

humble shale
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I don’t get the hype for her. She was in one game playable didn’t even have a fatality and didn’t have any special move that makes her notable.

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People only liked her cause she was dressed scantily and had a crush on bi-Han

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She’s supposedly a demon but we’ve never seen that either

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I’d give her a chance as a kameo in mk1 but I don’t get her appeal like her fans do

sacred arch
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If you mean that like physically we’ve never seen what she looks like in full demon form and not her human disguise, that makes sense, but we’ve never spent nearly enough time with her in any plot to have something like that shown off. She’s been very underutilized which is part of why fans of her want her back because if we actually spent some time with her in the story we could potentially see something cool like her true demon form or whatever

tribal axle
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You don’t make a character, imply they have a demon form, and not show the demon form

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Fair point

brave olive
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no

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thats good that they dont show it

dawn sparrow
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Yeah they can't show it just yet

brave olive
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and they never will shangplotting

native dock
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Homelander, Peacemaker, and Omni-man are all confirmed correct?

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From the Amazon leak?

brave olive
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yea

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i dunno about Omni and peace

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but Homelander yeee

native dock
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If I were to pre order the premium edition on pc will i get those characters?

native dock
brave olive
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eh nope

brave olive
native dock
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also why cant we have a beta on pc? wtf. more people play on pc than console tbf

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?

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see

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it even says in mk1 kombat 1 pack

humble shale
native dock
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amazon italy is pretty special

dull sphinx
native dock
dull sphinx
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I stayed with my brother for the weekend of the stress test cause I have PC and he has the new Xbox lol

native dock
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so if u preorder premium, u get kombat pack 1 with these characters

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Am I wrong?

magic bone
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ed should be a kameo

brave olive
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no