General Discussion

[shell notch]

hence why i wasnt going to delve too much into it

[dense gale]

the 285K has like such weird power behaviors and like 8 less threads than the 14900K for way more

[shell notch]

trying to be better with it yk

[dense gale]

Honestly GN's review is all I can imagine you'd need

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from what i heard from when intel showed off 15th gen. keep in mind these were in the footnotes of their graphs

[dense gale]

The cheapest board is so much and the U5 245K is also insane

[shell notch]

they ran them in weird power states like pl1 and pl2 were both 250w

and the 14th gen systems and the ryzen 9000 systems werent using fast ram

so in reality the performance uplift isnt as big as they say it was

[shell notch]

nah imma watch steves review

oh steve did post a review

like half an hour ago

[dense gale]

Steve GN?

[shell notch]

nah other steve

[dense gale]

Who?

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hardware unboxed

[dense gale]

oh ok

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XD

[dense gale]

I personally don't like him, but you do you

[shell notch]

i like him he does good reviews

he may not have all the equipment that GN does but he does all of this at his house so yeah

i still find it funny that in the time that amd has switched sockets once intel has gone through like what 4 or 5

[dense gale]

God this is such an ugly card

[shell notch]

its also not good

[dense gale]

Wdym?

Just cause it's Arc?

[shell notch]

nope

nothing to due with arc

i remember GNs review wasnt super postitive about it

[dense gale]

Luckily that's not the cheapest one!

[shell notch]

i think it mostly stemmed from that you couldnt control the blower and the fan seperately

[dense gale]

I love the Sparkle card so much

[shell notch]

blue

[dense gale]

We got no blue other card :(

Building out a PC is stressful

Idk what I do this still I'm not gonna buy a desktop for like a year or so

I wanna get the i7 8750H laptop I mentioned

But this is something I'm kinda looking at

I already have a cooler and 32GB Intel XMP DDR4

Idk its hard to plan

[shell notch]

its hard to plan if its the future

like you said you arent going to buy a desktop for like another year

so for all you know that cpu and motherboard may not be available anymore

[dense gale]

It'd be insane if they stopped selling LGA 1700 boards by then

[shell notch]

we shall see

[dense gale]

I also love my G.Skill Ripjaws cause the design is cool and I don't wanna leave it

[shell notch]

these?

[dense gale]

Yea

[shell notch]

im so good i predicted that exact kit

XD

XD

[dense gale]

I'd be fine to put that in an AMD 5000 system right?

[shell notch]

yup

[dense gale]

I already spend $72 on it

Ok good

[shell notch]

although ryzen 5000 prefers 3600mts but it doesnt really matter

[dense gale]

I don't care too much about speed lol

Ryzen 7 5800X look nice

But sadly as you said, there's a chance that won't be avaible

[shell notch]

im saying the "sweet spot" is 3600mts

the difference between 3200mts and 3600mts is maybe like a 3% difference in cpu performance

yeah intel wtf

[dense gale]

Oh this actually looks really nice for the price

Rendering times would be INSANE

[shell notch]

being that you have ddr4 already it makes it harder for me to recommend just going zen 4 XD

[dense gale]

that's 7000?

[shell notch]

yes

[dense gale]

Honestly the 7600 looks nice

[shell notch]

forgot yall prefer ryzen 7000 and such

im so used to calling things by the architectures

HOLY SHIT

i got spelled that correctly on my first try

ignore the edited mark on the side i just went to check if i spelled it correctly turns out i did i just hit enter after hitting space

[dense gale]

Ive watched a bit of it but GN also has a U5 245K review out

[shell notch]

oh yeah

i saw the thumbnail

i already know what to expect just from seeing the thumbnail

[dense gale]

Making the i7-14700K look good!

Thats my dream chip

I love the numbers

or 9700X/9900X

[shell notch]

wasnt it the 285k that was sometimes losing to the 12600k

[dense gale]

yeah

It's so sad

[shell notch]

Yk what makes it more sad

The ryzen 9000 launch wasn't good. It made the ryzen 7000 launch look great which even that wasn't good compared to ryzen 5000 in terms of initial sales

So this was intels perfect opportunity to make up ground they lost to amd as well as confidence from their shareholders after the 13th and 14th gen cpus blowing up

But it seems that 15th gens launch isn't good either

[dense gale]

I got a dell e196fpf at a goodwill for a new side monitor since that sceptre i had broke so side became the main (HP Compaw LA2205wg) and omg its insanely color pretty!

sadly it has no brightness adjustment and its sooo bright

[dense gale]

Honestly means great stuff for me when I buy a new desktop!

[dense gale]

Intel U7 265K review now out by GN

[dense gale]

I had the realization that even a i3-12100,13100, or 14100 would be an insane CPU increase for me

I dont know how to feel about this

Even the Pentium G7400 is an increase

[dense gale]

Sad box strikes for a 3rd time

Here its $10 less

Than the regular X

Acting like physical games are a pain, ugh

[dense gale]

There were also these

[sterile ledge]

$300 feels like a lot for r5 7600 or is that just ryzen 7000 pricing

[shell notch]

wonder why it was cheaper at my walmart

[dense gale]

Its normally like $200

[sterile ledge]

okay good i’m not crazy lol

[shell notch]

granted its not like walmart really cares if they sell a few thats good enough for them

[dense gale]

So guys. Idk when i can, but Im finally going to be able to sell my H110 + i5-6500 and H270 + i7-7700 stuff!

Then I can hopefully get a new PC or a older laptop on ebay for like $400

Im not saying that alone will get me that far

But also, its closer. And with that i can get like a Ryzen 7600/5800X or i5-12600KF??

Idk what I’m doing but I’m planning!

[sterile ledge]

seems legit! once ur plan is finished you’ll know what ur doing

[dense gale]

Thats what I keep telling myself😜

[dense gale]

So I'm not the best with like computer specing stuff so I need a little help. If I can get a RTX 2080 for about $100 less than a RTX 3060 is that a good idea?

[shell notch]

yeah i say thats fine

issue being that the rtx 2080 is now 6 years old

do you need the nvenc encoder?

[dense gale]

Yeah

Also what's wrong with a 6 year old graphics card? If its good its good no?

(Btw I qualify a 780 as good so anything is fine really)

[shell notch]

im referencing driver support

simply its an older card which means it will lose driver support sooner

but i think nvidia still supports pascal so its whatever

[dense gale]

900 series is still supported so I'm sure 20 series will be fine

[shell notch]

you do you

[dense gale]

had to double check lol but yeah

[shell notch]

if its still supported then sweet

i think nvidia is better at driver support than amd

i think amd stopped supporting polaris

[dense gale]

Oh yeah. I think the RX 580 is like a year out of support

[shell notch]

forget when polaris started

so dont ask me

i think it was like rx 400 series

yeah 400 series

[dense gale]

Although something to consider. RTX 3060's tdp is 170w vs RTX 2080's 250w. But I usually play with a 60FPS cap on

[shell notch]

i forget what it is

[dense gale]

RX 400 was June 2016

[shell notch]

i think the running joke was that the rx 580 is the rx 470+++++

because its like the same die just clocked harder

also my dog just escaped again

so i have to go get him

halfway tempted to toss him outside for the night since he wants to escape so much

[dense gale]

What???

Just go get your dog

[shell notch]

i am

putting cloths on

[shell notch]

its not like its going to be bad i have a fenced in area that i let them out into during the day

i also have 2 outside dogs he likes

ok i put him back in

fucker went downstairs

[shell notch]

Fucks sake he got out again

[dense gale]

I spend 2 hours actually getting the hard drive cage out but…

after a blood sacrifice (real), random tools from the garage, removing literally everything, and many zip ties

I have not only given my i7-3770 and (more importantly) GTX 780 have a bit more airflow

[sterile ledge]

ah, the pc building gods have taken their allotted blood sacrifice

[dense gale]

Lmao

The bandage on my finger is not happy

Neither was my finger cause of the stuff you dump on it to disinfect it that burns

Also me cause i was on the end of the finger

Lets just hope this actually helps airflow and 780 temps

Getting a 250w GPU may have been a mistake but oh well

[shell notch]

so apparently the 9800X3D is on average 20% faster than the U9 285k

[dense gale]

Can someone with a newer CPU show their CPU-Z? I wanna see how many instruction sets my thing is behind

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@dense gale

[sterile ledge]

oho when i get back i’ll run lscpu and see what it gives me

[dense gale]

woah

[sterile ledge]

hmmmmm lscpu may not give me the instruction set list

[dense gale]

:(

If I get money out of my birthday gifts I'm gonna try to get like a 16GB ram kit like this!

For DDR3 this is my favourite kit and it'll be a lot better than what I have now

Currently rocking 1333 12GB of mismatched so it's running hella crap

its a 2x4GB pair we already had and a 4GB stick

or... although pricey. I have to find out if my computer would support it first but I could do this!

[shell notch]

wish companies would make kits like that again

nowadays everything is just black, white and grey

[dense gale]

Everything in PC is just that now

I just want my pretty colours

We have a FM1 and FM2 board and they’re both that Asus brown, blue, and white and I love how it looks

But I do think greys look nice

[dense gale]

Guys

Huge upgrade

My stepdad is letting my use his third PC motherboard anf CPU til he needs it

AMD Ryzen 5 1600(i’ll check if its X)
And some AM4 board

So now i also get to use my 32GB ddr4 i havent been able to use in a while

[shell notch]

Sweet

[dense gale]

At micro center just got a case for $50 and Acer monitor for $90 thats 1080P IPS 120Hz

Ya girl is getting an upgrade!

27” sadly but i plan to get a deeper desk eventually

[sterile ledge]

27 is as big as you wanna go for 1080p i’ve heard

[dense gale]

I just like 24

But I am really tall so maybe 27 will be a better fit

[sterile ledge]

i like my 27in 1080p

its served me quite well

[dense gale]

I always have to look a bit down with my past monitors

[sterile ledge]

i think thats how ur supposed to set things up for ergonomics

[dense gale]

No youre supposed to be at eye level for the top of your monitor

If i look straight ahead im always like a few inches up

[sterile ledge]

ah then ya need to raise it a bit

but better to be looking down at ur monitor than up

[dense gale]

Let me tell you, being tall sucks

5’7 is my dream height

[sterile ledge]

oh thats a funny coincidence

[dense gale]

Are you?

[sterile ledge]

yeah lol

[dense gale]

Lmao

[shell notch]

How tall we talking i feel like I should go down to a smaller screen because I'm a little short XD

Oh wait

I just read more

Wait nvm I'm confused

My 2 braincells are fighting for 3rd place rn

[sterile ledge]

kodoku tall
monitor stand short

[shell notch]

issue for me when i use my dads pc i obviously dont have this issue with my laptop being that its a laptop is. the chair doesnt go high enough and even if it did my knees would hit the desk because it has 2 steel beams underneath it so i would have to move the chair back which i can but i also cant because then i cant reach the keyboard since my arms wouldnt be long enough

[dense gale]

I ended up not using that Ryzen 5 1600 cause we couldn't get the motherboard out cause of 2 screws

So I'm using my i7-7700 and that small H110 board

and OMG this was so fun to build

And I haven't done much yet. But 120hz is so smooth!

I've just been downloading setups and played 5 minutes of MC but it feels so nice

[dense gale]

6'0"

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Fr?

[dense gale]

yEAH

[shell notch]

Damn I wish I was 6'0

[dense gale]

no you dont lol. being tall sucks

[shell notch]

I'm 5'7½ i rather be taller

6'0 ain't even that bad it's not like you're those giants that are 6'7+

[red rock]

Are the 40 series gfx cards worth it from a 3080 upgrade?

I despise how big they are, but if it's genuinely notibly better, I may consider it for my new streaming + recording rig I might build

Just cause the rig'll be under such heavy heavy load

[shell notch]

Which 40 series are you wanting

Because 4090 is like 40-50% faster than 3090

[shell notch]

Msi sells slim versions of the 4090 btw

they also sell slim versions of the 4080 super if you rather have that card instead

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KzRwrH/msi-gaming-x-slim-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-rtx-4080-super-16g-gaming-x-slim-white

1120$^^^^^^^^

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n2TZxr/msi-gaming-x-slim-geforce-rtx-4090-24-gb-video-card-rtx-4090-gaming-x-slim-24g

1950$^^^^^^^^^^^^^

both are 3 slot cards

in cyberpunk at 4k the 4090 gets like twice the performance of a 3080

thats with ray tracing on btw

oh also

another thing

frame generation is on 40 series and not 30 series

[native imp]

Do you have one streaming/recording and a second PC for running the games themselves? The 40 series can be a good upgrade (especially with that increased VRAM) but if the current setup isn't getting bogged down it might be worth it to wait and save up for newer cards. Unless you aren't hitting the fps/settings you want in games

[shell notch]

but nvidia is a good company

[native imp]

For some reason this statement reminded me I gotta update my GPU drivers now that nvidia fixed those exploits

[shell notch]

lol

i say it as a joke

because nvidia is a good company when it comes to making something that just works

and if there is a bug they fix it fast

problem is they charge an arm and a leg for their cards

[dense gale]

Depends, I'd say no if you're gaming at 1080P and game streaming and editing videos.
Any more specifics on what you'd be using it for exactly/does your 3080 have anything about it you dislike?

[red rock]

It'd be used for streaming and recording max loads. No gaming on the rig!

I have a dual pc setup for streaming currently, but my Corsair One is definitely on its last legs with handling load after looking at some stuff the other night

It's got a 2080 in it and it's from 2019, so it's getting up there in terms of outdated use

[shell notch]

I forgot you have a dual pc setup XD

[red rock]

I've always loved the compactedness of it, but I think airflow might be becoming a problem for the intensity I'm wanting to throw at it

[shell notch]

Also ewww a corsair one. I saw a review of that at one point with a 3080 I think and the cooling for the gpu wasn't nearly enough

[red rock]

Yeah I've got another one for the guest office. I genuinely think people don't set them up right and have issues, but maybe I'm lucky

[shell notch]

It wasn't even a 240mm aio it only had 1 fan so part of the radiator didn't even have air flowing through it because it was like a 180mm radiator

[red rock]

I've never had issues with mine. Only reason I don't want to use the guest office one is I feel like it might be worth the jump to the 4080 or 4090 for the rig

[red rock]

Ahhhh oof

[shell notch]

I mean if it's just the streaming pc you may not need to go for a 4080/4090

[shell notch]

I did post 2 links to a 4080 slim and a 4090 slim if you wanted to see those

[red rock]

Well it won't be just for streaming. It'll be streaming and recording at high 1080p

It'll be more intensive than just running a game on a pc for example

[shell notch]

Ight

[sterile ledge]

but also top of the line 40 series wont need an upgrade as soon hopefully

[red rock]

Yeah other concern is 50 series comes out and it's not like any of us'll be able to get our hands on it for a year

Cause scalpers and shit

[shell notch]

I don't know much about that type of work load so I can't really say much besides that all 40 series still have the same encoder which is great

[red rock]

Gotcha, I'll peep those links once I can sit at my pc

Thanks again Harlequin

[shell notch]

I try

Also apparently from what I heard 4090 prices are going to go up

[native imp]

the 40 series should handle the streaming + recording easily for 1080p 60fps, also depends on the bitrate (but twitch is fairly low on its bitrate anyway)

[shell notch]

Need to check that again to make sure I'm correct on it

Not that nvidia is raising the prices but just a shift in supply

I do remember 1 tech reviewer saying that with the exception of waiting for the 9800x3d just buy now

[sterile ledge]

9000 series x3d just launched right?

[shell notch]

November 7th

[sterile ledge]

oh right, just announced

[shell notch]

And we only know of the 9800x3d

We don't know of any other 9000X3D cpus

[dense gale]

4070 Super is a great card for that sorta thing
Ive heard AV1 is an amazing codec
Good performance for the price (for Nvidia) and is alreadt aimed at 1440P and in some games can do 4K High

[dense gale]

Imo, 4090 isn’t worth it unless you’re like gaming at 8K or editing 8K video. Its so hard to justify ever

And arent they like 2K alone, then you have to spend an insane amount on a PC that can even make that purchase worth it

[shell notch]

Mhm

Holy shit i got alot of reading to do

This would actually help me with stuff like this

[dense gale]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC
here’s a link to wiki’s page for Nvidia’s NVENC
Obviously you’ll only be on 8th Gen, but if you look up “RTX 40X0 (Super and/or Ti)”, look at techpowerups website it’ll tell you what die it has

My GTX 780 has the GK110, I’ve only recorded with 1080P 60 but even that didn’t have issues

[shell notch]

You ever noticed that nvidia switched how they named their dies with the 40 series

I guess that is a little misleading

[dense gale]

How? It feels like its just to match the architecture
with AD fore ADa lovelace

Although that’s just my guess

[shell notch]

I only really said it because 30 series used GA but 40 series used AD being that 30 series and 40 series had the same first letter of the architecture

Although looking back at it turing was TU

[sterile ledge]

wat

[shell notch]

Guess I'm grasping at straws when I looked at 2 thing

[dense gale]

Idk anymore lol

[shell notch]

MB

Fuck it let me go look

AHA

I was onto something

GF-fermi
GK-kepler
GM-maxwell
GP-pascal
GA-ampere

All have Gs XD

Now I gotta see if nvidia used a T name for an architecture way back

Ahhh fucking knew it

I was even right on what the name was

It was tesla

That's why turing was TU

And not GT

[dense gale]

Yeah Tesla, but that never has NVENC

[shell notch]

nothing to do with nvenc

[dense gale]

Also predated gaming creators by a good bit

[shell notch]

i was just talking about the naming of the dies

nothing to do with them having nvenc

[dense gale]

Yeah Tesla/200 was GT

[shell notch]

yes ik that

since i went to look

which makes me understand why with turing nvidia used TU since they already used GT

and hence why with 40 series nvidia used AD since 30 series used GA

[shell notch]

did you like the looks of those gpus kruz

[dense gale]

Forgot to put but these are the parts I have in my PC

Already has everything but the 500SSD i got for my bday, only got to use the cooler for like a couple weeks prior, same with the RAM, had the CPU, GPU, Motherboard, 240GB SSD, and PSU

Also put 4 fans in it yesterday

[dense gale]

For about $190 the i9-10850K looks kinda nice

10 Cores and 20 Threads up to 5.20GHz on a slightly older platform

[shell notch]

not bad thats basically the same price as the 5700x3d

[dense gale]

I also found out that 120hz doesnt make you better at games

I just popped off for some reason yesterday

[dense gale]

I'd get to keep my memory too!

[native imp]

As a kid I always said I'd be so much better once I got above 15fps.

Now I run at 120fps in most games and sill can't land a shot lmao

[dense gale]

I think those 10 Cores will be nice for rendering

[dense gale]

new GN Ryzen 7 9800X3D review

[shell notch]

the fact that even the 5600x3d is faster in some games than the u9 285k is just funny

[dense gale]

3D V-Cache will do a lot for you

[shell notch]

Also making an architecture that's slower in some cases than a 2 generation (technically 1) doesn't help

[dense gale]

Its crazy to me that a 4070 Super is better than a 3090 (minus the VRAM)

[sterile ledge]

that’s what generational uplift will do for ya

doesn’t hurt when ur transistor node improves between gens either (samsung 8lph for 30 series vs tsmc 4n for 40 series according to wikipedia)

[dense gale]

Honestly, the 4070S is like the best card to buy. 4080S and 4090 obv are better but for sure a crazier price

[sterile ledge]

idk i like my rx 7900xtx

[dense gale]

I just want Nvidia cause I know Nvenc is good

I’m sure I’d be happy with a 6700 XT but like, idk about the encoder

[dense gale]

oh god

At least the 7800X3D is finally under $500

[dense gale]

God I love this case, with InWin still sold theirs

[pallid tree]

I'm looking to build a pc with the fractal north or north xl but i dont know what to put in it. I know i want to play aaa games and stream.

[sterile ledge]

budget?

[pallid tree]

2k give or take

[sterile ledge]

oooooooooh nice i think thats what i went for when i built mine
ryzen 7 7700x
radeon rx 7900 xtx
32 gb DDR5 ram
ASUS TUF AM5 motherboard
etc

[shell notch]

wifi or no

actually

it doesnt matter

all the "cheap" atx b650 boards all have wifi

[shell notch]

@pallid tree https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4dLrM

side note if you want more cores you could swap the 7700x for a 7900 and it would put you at 2000.83$

i could probably get this lower

ok so for 10$ less we can go with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi

which would lower the build to under 2000$ if you want to go with the 7900

but i didnt chose this board was because it only has 2 m.2 slots while the gigabyte eagle has 3 for just 10$ more

[terse harbor]

Whats a good video editing software that is also free?

[shell notch]

@dense gale someone overclocked the 9800X3D and was getting 1500fps in valorant 1080p max settings

[sterile ledge]

davinci resolve … tho it’s kinda a lot at first there’s some good videos on how to to do the basics

[dense gale]

Love this, but i know people dont recommend AMD for streaming cause at the same 6K bitrate Radeon looks a lot worse. But for that price they cause get the 4070 Ti Super

[dense gale]

Woah

[dense gale]

I’ve heard good stuff about DaVinci Resolve

[shell notch]

and thats why for the person wanting to spend 2k on a pc i put a 4080super XD

[native imp]

For twitch they look the same honestly

[dense gale]

@shell notch

[sterile ledge]

why is there a mobile chip in the middle there

[dense gale]

why not? its insane.... also it's Harlequin's cpu

[shell notch]

that isnt mine though

[shell notch]

what is this geekbench?

nvm it isnt

[sterile ledge]

cpubenchmark

[shell notch]

if i type that in it gives me all sorts of stuff

idk which one that is specifically

[sterile ledge]

cpubenchmark.net

[shell notch]

ty

@dense gale

[shell notch]

well i can see they got one thing wrong with the specs

[dense gale]

What wrong with it?

[shell notch]

7945HX3D has the least amount of L3 cache even though it's basically identical to the 7950X3D just clocked lower, cant draw as much power and has a better igpu

Meanwhile my cpu on the very left

[shell notch]

pretty sure if you allowed the 2 on the left to draw as much power as they wanted they both get basically the same score

[shell notch]

another day of giving build advice

[dense gale]

Can anyone tell me if these sound different to you? They sound EXACTLY the same to me

[sterile ledge]

maybe ur headphones aren’t good enough to hear the difference

[dense gale]

The headphones are decent

Do they sound different to you?

[sterile ledge]

haven’t had a chance to listen

[dense gale]

Lol

is this what the youngsters call gaslighting

[sterile ledge]

yeah so after listening

i cant tell a diff

[shell notch]

Same

[dense gale]

Thanks Razer and HyperX

[shell notch]

I'm using a razer headset rn XD

[dense gale]

I'll return the Razers cause I've had the HXs for about a year and a half and I can actually use them on my phone

[pallid tree]

should i wait for any sales like cyber Monday or buy everything now? and what thermal paste should i use?

[shell notch]

Thermal past is already on the cooler

And if you want to wait sure

Just to see the deals

Idk when black Friday is i always forget

[sterile ledge]

friday after thanksgiving

which is fourth thursday of nov

[dense gale]

Im on the Framework website and my GTX 780 is at 92% and my i7-7700 is at 56% holy shit (literally nothing else was open)

[shell notch]

lol

[dense gale]

My friend just have the best upgrade ever. Her iphone 8 had bad issues for years and she got a spare Galaxy Note 9 from her uncle

Peak phone design

[dense gale]

Does anyone know if 6 Cores is good enough for a decent gaming pc that's also used for recording gameplay and editing + rendering 1080p 60fps video? And is 32GB really necessary?

[native imp]

6 cores depends on the cpu, and the rendering depends on if you are using gpu or cpu for it. Though I'd recommend gpu rendering anyway.

32gb of ram will be nice when rendering.

[shell notch]

For ram depends on how many chrome tabs you have open

That's not a joke btw I had a game open and like 3 chrome tabs open and I was at 15.2gb of ram usage

Mainly from the game

actually with just a few chrome tabs for reading open and discord im using 9gb of ram

[dense gale]

I've heard its like less accurate than GPU rendering. But if I have a new GPU then I can try
I'm looking at like the Ryzen 5 7600, Ryzen 5 9600X, or Ryzen 7 9700X

[dense gale]

1. the joke about chrome using a lot of ram is weird cause everyone says it and i never had issues on chrome
2. i use firefox

[shell notch]

lol

[shell notch]

only chrome tabs i have open

all for reading XD

using a 16 core laptop for reading XD

i do play games on it just not that often because my wifi is shit

[dense gale]

me using a 4 core desktop for editing lul

[shell notch]

also the people who i normally play with usually get off at like 5pm

btw

battery life with this thing

sucks so much

[dense gale]

this is my game area, but i havent been playing gta, overwatch lately (in ow it crashes), and goose goose duck and ultimate chicken horse i played one time

yeah that's a gaming laptop moment right there

[shell notch]

honestly

its pretty inaccurate

while the battery life does suck

its not 2 hours suck

its more like 4

[dense gale]

on my i7-4700MQ I'd get like 1 if i'm lucky

[shell notch]

i will say this

being on wifi with this thing is the stupidest joke ever

idk whats the cause

but whenever im reading

which is most of the time

this thing loves to disconnect from the wifi

but when i play games it doesnt disconnect

not even once

yet it will disconnect 20 times in a hour while reading

[dense gale]

luckily while reading its already loaded and there isn't much to load when you do

[shell notch]

Funny thing

Doesn't always load the chapter all the way before it dies

I swear it's a troll

Legit sometimes disconnects 5 seconds after I connect it

For the most part it's not an issue

Just gets really really fucking annoying

[shell notch]

fun

the screen brightness isnt changing

[dense gale]

Oh I had that on my 2012 macbook when i had that on windows, reinstall your graphics drivers and that should work

that was always my issue

[shell notch]

I just restarted my laptop and it fixed it

[dense gale]

Oh nice

[shell notch]

The flickering issue isn't as bad as it used to be

also i kinda do a stupid thing when i play games with this laptop

because i dont like the noise i tend to leave it in silent mode

which also lowers the power draw so it doesnt have to ramp the fans

because of that my fps tends to be meh

so sometimes when the fps is being really inconsistent i put it to performance mode and my fps would go from like 35 to like 100+

its weird

because even in silent mode i can get 100fps

but then randomly it drops down and never comes back up

[dense gale]

nothing important but i wanted to share my new mic!

[dusk iris]

If i was thinking of just replacing my graphics card, since it seems to have issues monthly ever since moving, do you yall think it'd be best to just get the same one, or upgrade a level or two

I've had the card as long as I've had my computer, about 4-5 years now so I'm not suprised it's having issues, I'm just kinda tired of being unable to use my computer because of it.

Current is Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060

[dense gale]

The RTX 3060 is still pretty good

[shell notch]

I mean if the issues are that annoying sure

[dense gale]

Getting the same card is a good idea tbh

[shell notch]

40 series production from what I understand has ended

[dusk iris]

I could get a 40 series if it's better then using an older one, idk if it'd be okay in my computer or not

Never had to replace before , used to prebuilt pcs

[shell notch]

Replacing a gpu isn't hard

The annoying thing is unlocking the latch on the pcie slot

But your limiting factor would be your psu

[sterile ledge]

and maybe case size but likely not

[dense gale]

If you want to get 40 series you’d need to get the 4070 for it to be worth it
The 4060 is similar in performance with a bit less vram

[dusk iris]

I'm not really sure what I'd want

I don't care about things looking pretty, I just want to run the game without fear or overheating, crashing, or lagging/stuttering

I feel that replacing may be the best action since the card has has repeated issues

And i just don't know how to fix it every time

[sterile ledge]

warranty/rma period is probably over, yeah?

[dusk iris]

Believe so

I got the card with the pc and it's parts at the same time

Which was about 4-5 years ago now

[sterile ledge]

not bad! that’s lasted quite a while

[dusk iris]

Here lemme get an accurate timeframe

[sterile ledge]

could almost consider getting a whole new pc
might be smarter to just replace gpu tho if everything else seems to be working fine

[dusk iris]

Ah

I got it in 2021

So 3 years

I've had it

And all it's parts

[sterile ledge]

gotcha gotcha. i would lean toward just replacing gpu then

[dusk iris]

And i need to fix the windows issue I'm having

But I don't think that's a replacing matter

I think i.may need to wipe my pc to fix it

[sterile ledge]

of the gpus that are equal or better in performance, i would pick the one that maximizes price to performance stat

[shell notch]

Here's another thing

What are you doing with this pc

[dusk iris]

Other then the ripsaws it has everything else with

[shell notch]

Are you just gaming on the pc

[dusk iris]

Gaming, and usual stuff like YouTube, twitch, discord

[sterile ledge]

just the one hard drive in there?

[dusk iris]

It has a built in hard drive and then i got it a 3tb one

[shell notch]

ummm

i dont see the psu

thats what im mainly worried about

[sterile ledge]

could get a 100/200 gb ssd and install fresh windows on that to see if that fixes the OS issue

would not affect ur existing install at all i think

[dusk iris]

I have flash drives

I don't know anyone nearby I could get windows from tho

[shell notch]

you can just tell the pc which drive to boot off of in the bios

windows is free

[sterile ledge]

you can get the official installer from microsoft

[shell notch]

you just download it onto the usb

[dusk iris]

Never said anything about buying lol

[shell notch]

im just saying its free

[dusk iris]

Ye

[sterile ledge]

unless something has changed … there’s a lot you can’t do on the free version of windows

you’ll want to activate it lol

[dusk iris]

I'd likely need help with it

As I have most things

[sterile ledge]

no worries

[shell notch]

ik theres some admin things you cant do like setting up other accounts but otherwise i think its mostly cosmetic stuff

[dusk iris]

I feel bad that I'm always asking help, wish I knew on my own

[shell notch]

your fine

[dusk iris]

Would make things alot easier

[shell notch]

not everyone knows everything

[sterile ledge]

eh, we all had to learn these things from somewhere

[shell notch]

heck i appear knowledgeable about these things but theres alot i dont know

[sterile ledge]

same

[dusk iris]

I can tell you alot about the actual use of a computer

But ask me what's inside it i won't know lol

[sterile ledge]

better to have courage to ask for help when you don’t know things

[dusk iris]

I'd rather ask someone who does know

Then brute force it and make it worse

[shell notch]

im more of the type to spec a pc for someone but i cant really do trouble shooting besides resetting cmos and other minor things

[dusk iris]

Psu are you asking about the power supply?

[shell notch]

yes

[dusk iris]

It just clicked in my head

[shell notch]

psu- power supply unit

[dusk iris]

It's what came with the case, one sec I'll find out

[shell notch]

because ultimately we dont want to bottleneck your next gpu with the 10400f

and we want to make sure your psu can support it

[dusk iris]

Smart600 warr

Watt

Uh

Thermaltake?

[sterile ledge]

oh phew

was gonna say i didn’t recognize that brand

[shell notch]

i dont like that psu

their smart psus arent good

[sterile ledge]

regardless of whether you like it or not 600W is probably a bit small for even current system

[dusk iris]

Could that be causing the gpu issues?

It never had issues till I moved out here

I thought maybe it was out outlets in this house

Our*

[shell notch]

it wouldnt be the psu in that case

[sterile ledge]

if it was doing fine with that psu before…

[shell notch]

if it wasnt having issue before

[sterile ledge]

yup

[dusk iris]

Okay I can rule that out then

I figured the issues are mainly with the card

The repair tech i took it too said the thermal paste was fine

[sterile ledge]

oh that’s good. was gonna say next steps would be reseating in slot and maybe repasting but sounds like you’ve done that

[dusk iris]

I hadn't tried reseating

[shell notch]

you either have an E tier psu or an F tier psu from what im reading its an F tier

[dusk iris]

Tho I am wondering

Because last time I had blackscreening the repair tech said I shouldn't use compressed air on the gpu

[sterile ledge]

well they took it out to look at the paste did they not?

[dusk iris]

That I unsealed it

Seated*

And the night before it started blackscreening

[sterile ledge]

i haven’t heard this before tbh

[shell notch]

thats dumb

[dusk iris]

I used the air again without thinking because the card was in the 70s while running games and it worried me

[shell notch]

the only reason why you wouldnt is because of the fans

but even then just hold onto the fans

[dusk iris]

I sprayed it in the fans both times

[shell notch]

its fine

[dusk iris]

Assuming that was where dust buildup was

[shell notch]

theres a bunch of stuff to ground any static

[dusk iris]

It didn't instantly start blackscreening tho

[shell notch]

maybe reset the cmos?

[dusk iris]

I played till 11 pm then next morning I played from 10 pm to 2 pm and it blackscreened around 2 pm and I instantly just shut down the pc in fear

[shell notch]

if you dont have the button on the back of the motherboard you will see a little battery on the motherboard

[dusk iris]

We reset it before

Would it need it that soon?

[shell notch]

shouldnt

but then again

technology doesnt alway work how we want it to

[dusk iris]

Yea.

[shell notch]

anyways

about the potential gpu upgrade thing

you wouldnt want to go past a 6700xt level of performance

due to your cpu

even the 6700xt is pushing it

[dusk iris]

What would be recommended then?

[shell notch]

depends

are you buying current generation

and do you care about ray tracing

[dusk iris]

I only care about it running well, not overheating, and minimal stutters or lagging

Performance is my prio

Quality isn't as important to me

[sterile ledge]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

looks like 6650 xt is best value according to this chart

and it's not putting up numbers like the 6700xt so cpu wont be bottlenecking

[dusk iris]

Would it matter to go from nvidia to rizen?

[sterile ledge]

radeon

[dusk iris]

Rizen?

[sterile ledge]

and no, not really

[dusk iris]

Ok phone

Stupid autocorrect

[sterile ledge]

unless there's some key nvidia-only feature that you are using rn lol

[shell notch]

also

[dusk iris]

I don't think so

[shell notch]

i would rather go with the 7600 over the 6650xt

[sterile ledge]

sure, still a good value

[shell notch]

since its newer and you can find them for roughly the same price

[dusk iris]

What is the price typically?

[sterile ledge]

chart is showing 6650xt for 40 dollars less

[sterile ledge]

6650xt : 209
7600 : 249

according to that chart i linked they have similar performance

[shell notch]

i rather see gaming benchmarks

[sterile ledge]

meh

[shell notch]

passmark and those things dont really translate to gaming

[sterile ledge]

not an exact translation, sure

[shell notch]

well tech power up says the same thing so ill believe it

more concerned about driver support

since amd isnt as good with driver support as nvidia

[dense gale]

Do we know what else is in the system other than a 3060?

[sterile ledge]

yes

[dense gale]

What is?

[sterile ledge]

all that

and 600W psu

[dense gale]

600w is fine for a 3060 and i5-10400F?

65w + 170w

[dense gale]

Do you do anything on the computer other than play games? Like stream or anything?

[dusk iris]

I used to stream and record

But I really don't nowadays

[sterile ledge]

maybe

[dusk iris]

I watch yt and twitch and discord regularly

I need the noise

[dense gale]

Then yeah a AMD Radeon card will work fine

[dense gale]

Intel Arc is looking better!

https://youtube.com/shorts/yw3nq2qPEGo?si=865sQ1mbHBLlHb2Q

[dusk iris]

Is it normal for shortcuts on the pc to like, flicker sometimes?

I just noticed it

[quasi gyro]

If you guys want to build a PC in the near future

It would be incredibly wise to do so before the new year.

[dense gale]

I'd wait for Nvidia's 5000 series

Cause ideally 4000 prices go down, or if the performance is a lot better it's right around the corner

[sterile ledge]

if that’s the case then 4000 series prices soon will probably be the same or more, given what i believe bloo is alluding to

[shell notch]

As far as I'm aware 40 series production has ended

[winter cedar]

So what I'm hearing is i use wait to upgrade my GPU or just do it soon 🤔?

[sterile ledge]

since you are in canada, you might be able to wait for 5000 series to come out

those of us in the US are not so lucky

[quasi gyro]

Yeah will not apply to Canadians

Or at least probably won't

[shell notch]

We might be getting new intel gpus next month

[dense gale]

I’m praying B750 will be amazing

[dense gale]

i5-14400F is good yeah? I'm looking at PC options after I move and theres a costco PC that has that, a 4060, 2TB SSD, and 32GB DDR5 for $850 and wanna know if that's a bad idea (btw the ram is dual channel)

[shell notch]

Just get the 13400f if it's cheaper it's the same cpu

[dense gale]

It's a prebuilt that's not really an option

[shell notch]

Oh sht

I didn't read that

Mb

[dense gale]

Yeah, it's like a $1100 value and that was me kinda skimping out and cutting corners on PCPartPicker

That's a second attempt to remake it

And obv the case is different but pff who cares

Its a nuts value

And a 2 year warranty is awesome

And the fact that when I move I'm likely not bring my keyboard, theres a chance. And my mouse is another "maybe"

[dusk iris]

I'm so fed up with the blackscreening, everything's fine for a few days then it's right back to having problems

My buddy said if I replaced the graphics card I should get a 3090

[shell notch]

What's the current gpu

[dusk iris]

Nvidia GeForce RtX 3060

[dense gale]

I'd say get a 4070 Super, about the same price range and it draws way less power

The 4070 ties the 3090 is 1080P gaming and the Super outperforms it by about 15+ frames

[dusk iris]

Would my pc be able to handle it?

[dense gale]

Also 4070 Super draws 220W and the 3090 draws 350w and likely can go past cause I remember the 3000 series having huge power spikes over their tdp

What's your processor?

[dusk iris]

Intel i5 10400f

I think that's it?

[dense gale]

Go to the settings app, then go to system, and at the bottom of the left click on about and it'll say right there

[dusk iris]

Yea it's a i5 10400f

[dense gale]

In some games you might be CPU bound, but the 4070 Super in my guess is like the best you can do before you get TOO much bottle necking. Or you can go with like an AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT

Actually yeah I'd recommend that more

For you CPU

[sterile ledge]

that’s what harlequin was saying earlier i think … no more than 6700xt to avoid bottlenecking

[dusk iris]

I walk away from my pc when these issues happen to help me think better, but I'm really just scratching my head because we've done so many things to try to fix it and it just band-aid patches it effectively, i even wiped my entire pc to fix the windows issue and reinstalled all graphics related things n it's still having these problems

[native imp]

If you plan to upgrade the cpu eventually, going with a more powerful gpu isn't neccesarily a bad idea, even if it means the cpu being a bottleneck

[dusk iris]

It isn't overheating, gpu use only ever gets to like 78%, unless I'm just not looking st the right stuff to monitor it properly. But I'm just thinking maybe it's just dying from constant use.

[native imp]

You'd need to view the temps instead of utilization

[dusk iris]

But again, I don't know enough

[dusk iris]

I watch the temps like a madman through task manager it rarely goes above 60c on my most demanding games

[native imp]

oh yeah 60c is good

[dusk iris]

Yesterday night I tried out a new game and it spiked to 78 c and crashed but I figured out it was a game issue and just havnt tried with that game again

[native imp]

It'd be nice if you could get another gpu to borrow temporarily for testing, but I know thats not realistic for most people

[dusk iris]

I wish I had someone that could just come over and look at it for me but I moved away from anyone that could sadly

And i don't have the money to take it to a pc repair tech again when all they did was remove everything n put it back in n still charged me

[dense gale]

I am reaching the limits of what I can do with a 4 Core lol

Nothing is playing or rendering yet!

I guess the timeline is just that intensive

on this dinosuar

or smth like that

[shell notch]

@dense gale what do you think should i get more ram XD

[dense gale]

Prob

[dense gale]

that video took 2 and a half hours to render, an its 17:47

[shell notch]

5700x is 130$ rn

[dense gale]

WOAH

[dusk iris]

I feel like I'm just being a pain at this point but I'm not even positive if my issue is purely graphics card related and looking and online prices idk if I can even afford a new one ._.

I feel so lost about the whole thing

I hate it.

[dense gale]

i feel that

[pallid tree]

does anyone know if there are any decent monitors for sale?

[shell notch]

Look on newegg for prices

[shell notch]

If you want to learn about monitors i would recommend monitors unboxed on youtube

[pallid tree]

ok thank you

[shell notch]

so

im thinking of just getting new ram for my lapotp

i lowkey wonder is 64gb will work

[dense gale]

do you need 64GB?

[sterile ledge]

what would the limiting factor be, memory controller have a limit?

[shell notch]

so the laptop supports 32gb

the cpu can handle more

do i need 64gb no

i just wonder if it would work

[dense gale]

why would you get 64GB anyways? Just for the status or something?

[shell notch]

litterally just said why

thinking about it

i understand why when i play games my fps just randomly tanks

im running out of ram XD

so this is the best selling one on newegg

but i can buy 2 of these and it would be cheaper

actually

this is funny

a 5600mts stick is 10$ cheaper than the 5200mts stick

[dense gale]

32GB would be perfect for having stuff open while playing games

[shell notch]

i may just buy the 5600mts kit and reduce the speed down to 5200mts

[dense gale]

Why would you do that?

[shell notch]

dragon range only supports 5200mts

[dense gale]

Dragon range?

[shell notch]

my 7940HX

[dense gale]

Oh

Wouldn't it just autocap it? Like my memory is 3200 but my CPU only supports 2400

[shell notch]

idk

probably

idk if shit with laptops works differently

oh ffs

im hearing noises again

[dense gale]

My old MSI laptop capped like 3200 to 2666 so my guess is yeah

[shell notch]

side note

i was browsing google street view last night

found my grandpa in one of the passes from 2011 XD

[dense gale]

(screenshot from another discord cause im lazy)

[dense gale]

thats lovely

[dense gale]

When my GTX 970 comes in it'll be able to do all I really need to. After that would there really be an reason to upgrade?

[shell notch]

Sweet

[dusk iris]

Hey all. Since I havnt been able to fix my issue and I'm just tired of messing with it and don't have a ton of money + it's cyber Monday I'm looking at just going back to prebuilt gaming pcs

If anyone has a recommendation, lmk, atm I am looking at wal mart and newegg for a good gaming pc that's not too expensive prefer

[sterile ledge]

kruz has a go-to prebuilt company i think

[dusk iris]

I'm not throwing out my old pc, I'm just gunna put it to the side till I could learn more about fixing them or find someone local that can look at it without charging me up the wazoo.

[dusk iris]

She does? I didn't know that

[sterile ledge]

cant member which one atm haha

[dusk iris]

If you think of it definitely lmk

[sterile ledge]

yerrr someone will know it

i found it

oh thats funny

@dusk iris its pinned in this channel

[dusk iris]

Oh wow they are a bit pricey lol

But they look amazing

Yea my budget rn is between 700 - 1k rn so that'd have to be once I have a job

[dense gale]

I've been trying out DaVinci Resolve for video editing and its actually pretty nice!

[dense gale]

Yeah this is the cheapest one I see they have

$1300 for a computer with those parts is insane though

Holy

[dusk iris]

Yee i just couldn't currently afford it but I'll definitely keep that site in mind when I need a new pc again and have the funds

[dense gale]

Do you want the link for the PC partpicker? The specs of it are pretty decent

[sterile ledge]

you got ur new prebuilt yesterday right durius?

[dense gale]

Oh sick!

I need a new PC too, after I move its over!

[sterile ledge]

hopefully you can get it before any tariffs are put in place

[dense gale]

I'm moving in April

Whats the chances I'm gonna have to ship this one across the country and be stuff with the specs in it for a while?

[sterile ledge]

we shall see

[dense gale]

I wish my stepdads friend got a PC like a year later

Cause its a 7th gen i7

If it was an i7-8700 it'd be amazing

Then I also wouldn't really need a new PC

[sterile ledge]

oh that reminds me i have a 6700 lying around i need to get a new motherboard for it

[dense gale]

Oh I have a H270 board I'd be willing to sell ya! I've been meaning to put it on ebay

[sterile ledge]

oh my! if i don’t find something locally i’ll keep that in mind

[dusk iris]

Yes

Today is clean up my room n getting it set up day

[sterile ledge]

[dense gale]

It's the Asus H270 Prime Plus or something

Why tf is this a 13 minute video

wait lol

[dusk iris]

Does amd have an app like nvidia for updating gpu?

Also is there an app I can use for updating drivers in general? Cause i have the hardest time finding out what needs updating most days

[sterile ledge]

wdym by updating gpu, like drivers? amd radeon software should auto-check for new drivers

also i don’t update other drivers regularly unless they update through the OS

[dusk iris]

Yes

I'm also confused on how to add my 3tb to this pc

It looks similar to my old pc but also diff at the same time

[sterile ledge]

will need power and data

send pic of drive?

[dusk iris]

That's the back of the new pc

[sterile ledge]

so it’s sata power and sata data on one end of the drive yeah?

[dusk iris]

My old one had slots for extra drives this one doesn't seem too?

Think so

[sterile ledge]

ah you’ll need to screw it down somewhere then

[sterile ledge]

okay yeah that’s what i expected

[dusk iris]

Yea that's what I'm hunting for but I don't see anything that looks like a spot

[sterile ledge]

looks like the case has spots for 2.5” drives but not 3.5”

[dusk iris]

So this one's too big?

[sterile ledge]

no

just no dedicated mounting spot

[shell notch]

I see the hard drove cage

Drive***

The hard drive cage is behind the power cables

Unless I'm wrong it should be there

[dusk iris]

That?

[shell notch]

Yeah looking at it it's the hard drive cage

[sterile ledge]

i didn’t look too closely behind the power supply outputs lol

[shell notch]

It's behind that

[sterile ledge]

add a circle lol

[shell notch]

Bruh

[sterile ledge]

but like even if it’s not back there that’s where the drive will have to go anyway

[dusk iris]

I guess i have to get these cords out

[shell notch]

Yes

What case is being used anyways

[sterile ledge]

it’s linked above somwhere

prebuilt build

[dusk iris]

It's in subs but I'll repost it here for non subs

[sterile ledge]

ope haha right

[dusk iris]

It's all hooked up

Something I havnt seen before i plugged it into my surge protector it sparked

Like the inside of the outlet lit up

Idk if I'm using the right word ll

[sterile ledge]

i think you are lol. maybe it’s the dry december air?

[dusk iris]

Maybe?

It only did it with my pc

The monitors didn't spark

I'm so paranoid every Lil thing is scaring me lol

Several months of pc issues broke me i guess

It is an old surge protector

But it's the only one with alot of slots that we have

I ought replace it tho

[dusk iris]

I think I'm just being paranoid but fans revving up n down at first is normal right?

[sterile ledge]

probably

[dusk iris]

this is also confusing to me

i have two?

one seems to be hotter then the other as well

[winter cedar]

One is the chip

[dusk iris]

Oh

should i be worried at all?

im sorry im just insanely paranoid after all the trouble with my old pc

the fans revving up n down are scaring me bad

the heats are scaring me

idk i think im traumatized T-T

[winter cedar]

Lol you're good

I think gpu1 is your dedicated card

50° C is not bad at all if it's sitting idle

[dusk iris]

this is my first time using AMD anything as well

always had nvidia

[winter cedar]

Lol all good I think my processor reaches 78° will playing games

[dusk iris]

i never saw two on my old pc

makes me wonder

how long does the fans usually keep revving like this cause my old one never did that

part of why im concerned

do i need to adjust fan speed possibly?

saying that like i even know how

also i think im gunna get a new

surge protector

this one i have is very old

and i'd feel safer replacing it

[winter cedar]

Um fans usually increase / decrease speed to adjust the temperature inside

Sooo I think it might be normal if it's not rapidly increasing or decreasing speeds

[shell notch]

one is the igpu on the cpu itself

[dusk iris]

At first it was, now it's just kinda randomly doing it. It may be doing it now because I'm downloading two games I want back

After it finishes I think I'll give it a break from running stuff then come back after dinner

[dense gale]

I need to get a 2K display lol

This issue doesn't come up that often but when it does, its rough

[shell notch]

intel b580 gpu coming on the 13th are 249$ and the b570 is coming January 16th at 219$

[dense gale]

I'm excited for that

[stuck furnace]

I plan on getting a prebuilt as my first pc until I can save up to actually build one. These are my top choices based on reviews and budget. The only problem is idk if one is better than the other

I know nothing about pcs right now

[dense gale]

How much do you have right now and how much are you planning to save?

With the incoming tarrifs PC parts will get even more expensive and I'd wait to look til you have your money all saved up

But of those 2 PCs the 2nd one is a lot better

[stuck furnace]

Right now a couple hundred but I don't plan on building my own for probably a couple years, I wanna learn about pcs before I buy anything

[stuck furnace]

Ty oh wise one

That makes me feel better

[dense gale]

lol

I honestly have no idea how I go into tech

Older Austin Evans videos are a good start I think. Like 2017-2019 was the era I started on, same with Linus Tech Tips

[stuck furnace]

Actually I found this one, that's made by the same people of the one I was originally gonna get, I hope it's worth the price lmao

[dense gale]

And that price is?

[stuck furnace]

About 1100

[dense gale]

Idk the prices off the top of my head but that sounds decent

[stuck furnace]

Plus through Amazon I can do payments so I don't have to pay it all outright

[shell notch]

Intel is looking for a new ceo

[dusk iris]

Curious question, do you guys leave your pcs running all the time or do you shut them down when not in use? I've heard both ends, ppl say shutting it down when not in use is bad for it or ppl say leaving it on 24/7 is bad for it. What do you guys think? I use to leave mine on all the time and it was fine till a few months ago, now I shut this new one down when I don't plan on using it for more then a few hours

[native imp]

I turn it off before bed, and just turn it on when I need it then leave it on till then

[dusk iris]

I used to leave it on all the time, before bed I'd set stuff to download or update then in the am I'd restart it

The old pc only got shut off if I was leaving the house or if I went on vacay

[shell notch]

The way I look at it is you should shut your pc down at least twice a week

Just so that way your pc doesn't start to slow down because it hasn't been restarted in a while

[dense gale]

I always shut them off

[dense gale]

wtf

a 7900X for ultra???

[shell notch]

wdym

if they are recommending a 6600 for an amd gpu equivalent for ray tracing performance to the 2060 thats about right

amd is a generation behind nvidia in ray tracing performance

so a 6600 ray tracing being similar to the 2060 makes sense

and im pretty sure they would know how "bad" it is being that they have to test the games on the hardware and optimize for it then give the recommendations

[dense gale]

whatever i guess im wrong sorry

[dusk iris]

Is there a way to tell what surge protector would be appropriate for my pc?

I got a new one but I think it might be the wrong one

[sterile ledge]

how would it be wrong?

[dusk iris]

The cord doesn't plug into it

But the shape of the plug matches mine

[sterile ledge]

you’ll have to send pics

[dusk iris]

Nvm I'm dumb

I wasn't pushing it hard enough

It fits

[sterile ledge]

oh good 😅

[dusk iris]

Trying to figure out how much wattage this pc has as well

Wondering if it's better to plug it in the wall vs the protector

The site doesn't list the wattage

On the psu

[sterile ledge]

def plug it in to the surge protector

[dusk iris]

Yea that's my thinking too

Rather be safe then sorry

Rather have to replace another surge protector then a whole new pc again

[stuck furnace]

Desk and pc are ordered, just have to wait a bit more to get the monitors and the chair

[dense gale]

yoo

thats sick

im upgrading too soon!

i'm going to get like an 8th gen Intel or 2nd/3rd gen Ryzen

Whatever is cheaper in combo with the board

and then considering I already have a 32GB kit of Intel XMP memory

[stuck furnace]

Yeah when I learn more about parts and whatnot I might Frankenstein my prebuilt but that won't happen for awhile

[pallid tree]

any idea how to fix a mouse moving monitors while gaming?

[sterile ledge]

are you having this problem with one game or like all of them?

[pallid tree]

all

[sterile ledge]

ooooh well ummmm
ur OS is windows i assume?

[pallid tree]

yes

[sterile ledge]

mhm okay i ask cuz i dont think ive ever had a problem like this on windows, only on linux

i got nothing lol. only other thing i can think to ask is what gpu you have

[pallid tree]

Geforce gtx 1660

[dense gale]

Omg the Ryzen 5 4500 is only $68 NEW

That's insane!

Next step up is like a i3-13100F for $78

[limber fog]

Anybody know any good headsets to buy? Looking to get one as a gift for Christmas for somebody

[sterile ledge]

i like my jbl headsets. i’ve got another one on order atm

[limber fog]

Could you send a link to em? 🙏 wanna check em out

[sterile ledge]

these are the ones i have
https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Quantum-300-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B084D5QDXN

[sterile ledge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/1g4186l/mouse_cursor_wont_stay_confined_to_game_after/
is this reddit thread like what's happening to you? solution for OP was disabling Xbox Game bar

[dense gale]

I have the Hyper Cloud III Alpha and they're great, but for some reason the mic on PC has never been good
My friend uses the Razer Blackshark V2 X and her mic sounds decent and she said the audio sounds nice

[limber fog]

Nice I'll take a look at em 👌

[pallid tree]

the anti sag bracket doesn't fit on my fractal north case for my 4080 super

[sterile ledge]

is it possible to put something under the card that supports the one “unsupported” corner?

[pallid tree]

i think so there is like a metal platform there

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/101xhd9/made_a_gpu_sag_bracket_to_match_the_front_of_the/

this is an example i saw but dont know how feasible it is

[stuck furnace]

My pc is finally here

[dense gale]

YOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dboPZUcTAW4&t

The Intel Arc B580 is INSANE