General Discussion

[shell notch]

so thats new news to me

Also apparently he's looking at getting a new board

[dense gale]

Oof

[dense gale]

I need help lowering my standards from watching tech youtubers for years
4 Cores is still fine for gaming yeah? If not whats the lowest you’d recommend if I’m also recording a game sometimes?
RTX 4050 looks good enough for me, but I’m worried am I shooting too low or does it actually perform fine for 1080P?
16GB is fine right??

[native imp]

For the cpu, knowing your budget would be helpful. Is the 4050 6GB of vram? and is that 16GB question for ram?

[dense gale]

4050 is 8GB
And yeah 16GB is ram

Also does super high vram amounts actually matter unless you’re doing like high resolutions and settings?

[native imp]

I have the 3060TI and wish I had more than 8GB vram. It does handle 1080p really well though. Some newer games I have had to lower settings on. If I were buying a gpu I'd probably see if there were any AMD cards with more vram for a simliar price to the 4050.

16gb ram is fine for most games, can always upgrade it later if need be.

[shell notch]

4050 so this is a laptop you are looking at then

[native imp]

oh I did not realize the 4050 was a laptop gpu only. my bad

[shell notch]

Also nowadays I wouldn't go below 6 cores

[shell notch]

It confuses me as well

Just like how the laptop 4090 actually uses the 4070 desktops die

Fuck

Actually

Hold up I might be wrong

Nope nvm it doesnt

4070 desktop uses AD104-250-A1

The 4090 mobile uses AD103

Oh damn

the 4090 mobiles gpu is 22% bigger than the desktop 4070

[dense gale]

Yeah i wish they kept the M naming

Saying 4050M would be a lot easier and I used to say M anyways but tech nerds in a server i was in kept getting pissed

And yeah am looking at a laptop

I realized I should go to schooling still and in that case i’d be a waste to do a desktop then get a laptop seperate

[dense gale]

Luckily I’ve changed a few things to make my video process lighter

I record with obs instead of fraps so i can use nvenc and dont need to handbreak a video over night
Dont use audacity to record so thats just free resources
And switched from Vegas and to Premiere which uses hardware better

My i7-7700 is working fine which is why i figured 4 Cores was still good

[dense gale]

Wait I realized pretty much every laptop I’d get is gonna be good

Cause I need a dGPU obviously, but even something either a RTX 4050 or RX 7600S which are both good enough for me I think usually get paired with a Ryzen 7 7735HS or something

[dense gale]

This is the cheapest laptop still new that I could find with a dGPU, dude this is so pog https://a.co/d/9c6HDSd

4P and 4E cores?? An actual Gpu??

[dense gale]

Intel Arc cards are actually looking really good

[fallen cradle]

Hello everyone, I’ve got a few questions about the „steam deck“… is it possible to play online games with it (warframe, Monster Hunter, DBD, etc.) or can you only play non online games with it? And are all Steam available games playable or is there a certain „requirement“ needed for games to function on the steam deck? Or should I save for a gaming PC?

[dense gale]

You can play online games, just that game needs to be supported. I would personally recommend saving up for a PC or even get an MSI Claw since that's never and better hardware if you really need the portability

[sterile ledge]

def save up, at least for a “gaming” laptop if not for a desktop

also, steam should have a note about whether a game is supported by steam deck or not

[fallen cradle]

Ok thx for the clarification

I’ll save up. I just really need it for when MH wilds comes out

So I’ve got a couple months left to save up

[dense gale]

You also don't need that amazing of a computer

Don't let the tech bros make you think you need anything crazy

This computer brand new with today's prices will run you $730 and you'll get a really good experience
If you need help with a laptop we can help out too!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GxcC34

[sterile ledge]

for example, this is what it looks like in the mobile app on the page for team fortress 2

[fallen cradle]

Thx, definitely will look into it

[fallen cradle]

I’ll keep that in mind when I get one

[chilly token]

hey so, idk where to ask this, but are these specs good/ok for a gaming & school work computer?
"Preowned gaming pc for sale
Specs: gtx 1080, i7 8700k, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd
Will throw in asus 24.5 inch monitor 144hz 1ms response 1080p" ???

[sterile ledge]

seems solid, what’s the power supply in it?

[dense gale]

Yeah pretty goodn

[chilly token]

don't know? I just copy and pasted the description available to me. should I ask that?

[chilly token]

thank you!

[dense gale]

How much are you buying it for?

[chilly token]

Its asking price is like, 350, with a monitor bc the guy's been trying to get rid of it for a while it looks like

[dense gale]

Yeah that’s a steal

I7 8700K is 6 cores which is minimum people recommend nowadays, 8th generation so it supports windows 11
16GB is good for gaming
And that GTX 1080 is still a good card

Also that Asus monitor is basically free at that price

[chilly token]

Alright, I'll reach out about meeting up for it

Thank you so much for the help!

[dense gale]

No problem!

@shell notch river inspired me lol. I can get an i5-8500 for about $45 so I wouldn’t need to make a full new computer, that sound like a good buy to you? (This was via a quick ebay search)

Or join them and get a 8700

[sterile ledge]

if i were you i would. cheap psu can hobble and even endanger an otherwise good computer

[dense gale]

Are there pictures you can send us from their listing? (Sorry i didnt notice they asked about that earlier)

[sterile ledge]

srry lol i’m sporadically checking disc while at work

[chilly token]

I asked, i'll let you know when/if he answers

[chilly token]

uhhh yeah, one sec

[dense gale]

Also dont ask until after the pictures cause it can save you a message if its clear its a good power supply

[chilly token]

already kinda did? sorry, i just sent it with my "is this available" msg

[dense gale]

Android pog! But yeah go ahead and ask theres a cover on it

Lol

Also make sure to clean the inside a bit with a brush, she’s a bit dusty

[chilly token]

absolutely, i have like 72 different allergies, she'll get a nice dusting before she gets to my room

[dense gale]

Hell yeah

[chilly token]

if the guy, y'know, ever answers me, and it is still available, it is unfortunately fb marketplace

[dense gale]

In that case look up how to take the fans and graphics card out so you can go ham on those outside the case (that’s way easier btw to get all the fan blades

Yeah true lol

[shell notch]

You have a 7th gen right?

If you have a 7th gen cpu and you are looking at a 8th gen you need a new motherboard

8th gen isn't backwards compatible with sockets using the 200 and 100 series chipsets

Because cash grab

That was at a time when ryzen wasn't as big as it is now

So intel didn't care

They didn't have to because it was the same amount of pins

It's still lga 1151

Similar to how ryzen 1000 couldn't be used on 500 series boards and ryzen 5000 couldn't be used on 300 series board

Actually no

That's not a proper comparison

Amd had an actual reason why they wouldn't support ryzen 5000 on 300 series initially

But then they changed it I think

It simply dropped support for a bunch of the 1000 series through a beta bios because the chip itself that contained the information about the cpus filled up

Amd is a thing

They kept am4 around for a while

IIRC you actually didnt

I think you needed that beta bios for older boards

But like amd gave us like what 4.5 generations of cpus in a single socket?

I say 4.5 because of the ryzen 4000 series which I think was oem only

But regardless amd won alot of people over because of how long they supported am4

I say the .5 because ryzen 4000 is still the same zen 2 architecture as ryzen 3000

They were simply the zen 2 based apus

But I believe amd already had a ryzen 3000G series based on zen+

I don't remember at the point amd was kinda stupid with it apu naming scheme

Still is though

Hence why amd went from 7000 to 9000

Because the 8000 series was the zen 4 apus

Sorry I just go off the architecture itself

But I'll say 5 if it's easier for everyone else

?

Are you saying because of the time that intel spent making just quad cores

No they did

People just didn't want to by the X series to get more than 4 cores

Because intel refused to make anything more the 4 core cpus on mainstream

I could be wrong

Actually there was a time when intel used the same basic naming

It was for 4th/5th gen

Because I forget why but intel didn't actually release a 5000 series on mainstream

That's simply why you see the 90 at the end of some 4000 series cpus

IIRC

Oh

They apparently made a 5000 series cpu

It was like 2 cpus

And this is my first time hearing about them

Give me a second I'm curious now

Ok I get it

The cpus with the 90 at the end were devils canyon based cpus devils canyon being a refresh of haswell which is what 4th gen uses

This is all before my time of when I got interested in technology btw

Basically anything before zen came out is iffy for me

Because I've tried reading up on these things

And I hear different things

So MB

Ughhhh technology is confusing

And I keep hearing about more shit about future intel cpus

Same thing with amd gpus

Then you have the shit with 50 series apparently going up in tbp

Tbp- total board power

[shell notch]

I even saw this on seasonics website ffs

Now as for why it was on the psu configurator I have no idea

I haven't said anything about them. I simply said I heard stuff about them

Trying to avoid talking about rumors like I used to

The 50 series thing I simply saw when browsing seasonics psu configurator

So idk what that was about just found it interesting

Ummm

Trying to think has there been any other news I've actually heard

Mmmmm

Oh yeah there was those new power supplies asus released

Using some GaN MOSFET

Idk what that is

But yeah

Alright I'm outta here

[dense gale]

As it turns out my GTX 970 does NOT work

[broken cypress]

It appears you have the checkered edition.

[sterile ledge]

blackwell before it got delayed be like

[red rock]

Computer said "we got minecraft at home"

[shell notch]

i have an idea on what that could be but nvm

back to reading

[sterile ledge]

i do too lol:
“not worth what would be a very expensive repair”
any diagnosis beyond that is extra

with that being said, the VRAM is likely on its deathbed

if ur lucky, it’s just that the card needs to be reseated in the pcie slot (according to reddit)

[dense gale]

Intel arc users be like “there’s only a few driver issues”

[dense gale]

Actually maybe, this pcie slot doesnt have the lock

But I don’t wanna take the 960 put again to put back in the questionable 970

[dense gale]

I'll do it :)

[dense gale]

@shell notch If I can only use 1 case can (CPU fan is stock cooler) should I have it in the front of the PC or back? Front right?

[shell notch]

Front

[dense gale]

You vs who she tells you not to worry about:

[shell notch]

why does this feel suprisingly accurate for me

[dense gale]

Ew

[shell notch]

what the board in the pc i built is a micro atx board

[dense gale]

I don’t want to know this detail about you

[shell notch]

and a friend i helped build his pc has an atx board

i dont see the issue my pc with a ryzen 7 5700x has a micro atx board in it

because it was cheaper

you ever heard of mini dtx boards?

[dense gale]

Nope

[dense gale]

For tomorrow I get to use the weirdest configured PC of all time

It's my stepdad's old PC cause my cooler broke

Ryzen 5 1600
16GB, 4x4GB at 2133MHz??? Why so slow on a Ryzen system??
and a AMD Radeon R9 "380 Series" whatever that means

[shell notch]

ryzen 1000 had an issue with running memory speeds even as low as 2400mts

[shell notch]

its not widely used as ive only seen like a few boards use it but its like mini itx but a little taller

[shell notch]

from what i remember ryzen 1000 supported ddr4 3000 but you needed samsung B dies for it and even then it wasnt always a guaranteed thing. being that ryzen 1000 was AMDs first time making a cpu with a ddr4 memory controller they were gonna have issues.

[dense gale]

Ok

[dense gale]

I hated installing it lol

[shell notch]

let me guess the worst part was the fan wasnt it

[dense gale]

?

It was just the mounting cause I've only ever done Intel or AMD stock coolers

[shell notch]

ohhhh

i was gonna say for me the worst part was installing the fan

i legit used a screw driver to pull the clip over the last little bit XD

[dense gale]

That part was actually super easy

[shell notch]

I actually cut my finger on the heatsink while trying to do it XD

[dense gale]

Wha

[shell notch]

Yup

Also I may or may not have chewed someone out for buying a 35$ psu

His reasoning was because he wanted to play

So I told him that when the psu dies and takes the rest of his pc with it I don't want to hear it

Being that the 1 thing you should never cheap out on is the psu

I later sent him a link to the psu tier list so he can look later on if he so like

I then also helped him put his pc back together over text

[shell notch]

Actually I shouldn't say I chewed him out but I didn't like that he didn't wait for someone to give him a suggestion to a psu

[dense gale]

Also could've just looked up "good power supply" on amazon and probably would've gotten a corsair or something

Yea

[shell notch]

This is the one he found

[sterile ledge]

[shell notch]

I put that exact psu in my dad's computer XD

[shell notch]

35$ btw

Granted

His stuff is a few generations old so some people may not care if the pc dies since the parts are a little old

[dense gale]

There's an MSI Mag one that's like $55, i'd do with that

[shell notch]

But the dude doesn't make a whole lot of money

[dense gale]

What is that supposed to mean?

Just cause it's a bit old it's worthless??

[shell notch]

So I don't want his entire pc to die and then not have the money for new parts

[shell notch]

So people view it like that yes

Like the dude could get a cheap ryzen 5000 cpu and like a 4060 and he would be fine

This is his current thing

From what he sent

Which isn't bad

The weakest part is the gpu

But otherwise it still plays the games he wants

[dense gale]

I hope you didn't tell him that his computer is worthless

[shell notch]

So I just didn't want him to make a not so smart decision just because he's impatient

[shell notch]

I never did

Nor did I ever imply that

[dense gale]

the gpu is still pretty good

[shell notch]

It's lacking vram and is overall pretty weak especially for newer titles

[dense gale]

4GB might be limiting but outside of VRAM scenarios like in more multiplayers games its gonna be good enough

[shell notch]

I'm willing to sell him my old 5700xt

For like 120$

[shell notch]

Also depends on resolution

From what I understand he's at 1080

[dense gale]

I'm sure with a 1650S they're on 1080

[shell notch]

But regardless he's asked me about my 5700xt before a couple of times

[dense gale]

Yeah so in that case it's gnna be good for a good amount of games outside of newer AAA games

[shell notch]

And I've told him I'll sell it to him for 120$

Those talks never really went anywhere because he baby rages alot

But he comes around

So yeah

I hope he doesn't actually use that 35$ psu

Actually if he stopped spending money on anime waifus he could save up money for a new system

[dense gale]

Tell him to get a refund when it comes in

Maybe a 1650S is good for what games they play

And they don't feel the need to

[shell notch]

Idk

Up to him

He does what he wants I just want him to know the offer is always there if he ever wants it

[dense gale]

I'm content on my GTX 970 right now even if you'd think it's unusable just cause the games I'm playing right now don't need super good horsepower to enjoy

[shell notch]

As I rather sell it to him than so random person idk since yk I play with the dude and we get along pretty well

[dense gale]

Except Helldivers 2 which sadly would run bad on here

[shell notch]

Oooof

I've never played helldivers 2

[dense gale]

I'm looking at 1070s

I have 2 friends I'd play with

I wanna get an Asus TUF with like a 4060 even I get a new computer

[shell notch]

My opinion is my opinion if it's fine for what you need then that's good and that's what matters

[dense gale]

What games do they even play anyways?

[shell notch]

Good question

Ummmm

Let me think from the few I've seen him play

World of warships, destiny 2, escape from tarkov, modded minecraft. Ummmmmm maybe some others that I just don't remember but that's all I can think of rn

[dense gale]

Yeah a 1650S is perfect for those

[shell notch]

Apparently he also plays warframe

[dense gale]

Minecraft uses like 0 GPU, a GeForce 8800 GTX can get 90 FPS which is more than oyu need for that game
Destiny 2 idk honeslty but I ran it on like UHD 620 back when it came out alright
Never played Tarkov and WoW shouldn't be that intensive

[shell notch]

Forgot that game even existed

[dense gale]

Also Warframe shouldn't be heavy either since that's kinda an old game

[shell notch]

Wows honestly I forget even though I play the game

I get like 100fps at 4k with a 6800xt

High settings

[dense gale]

Why play at 4K?

[shell notch]

My dad simply bought 2 4k smart tvs

That's his pc

My tuf a16 is 1440p

But I don't actually use my tuf that much because my connection on that thing is weird

I also need glasses for it

[shell notch]

He wasn't aiming to play at 4k the tvs simply are 4k tvs

Since 4k smart tvs are not super expensive for the screen size and he doesn't care about high refresh rate

He likes it, when he's not home I use it since it's easier on my eyes

It's actually because of his setup that makes it hard for my to use my tuf a16 since I'm used to the larger screen size

[shell notch]

so uh gpu sag

anyone have gpus that sag a bit?

[dense gale]

Yeah

My 970 does a bit

[shell notch]

yk if the gpu manufactures actually connected the io bracket to the cooler better they wont sag

fuck evga did it with the 3090ti

[dense gale]

@shell notch Sometime cam you run your laptop on some sort of CPU intensive test like 10 minutes of cinabench and lmk how the thermals hold up? The 7940HX is cool but I’m worried about how cooling would be on a 16 Core laptop chips that stomps an older threadripper

If it gets insanely hot then a Ryzen 7 7735H is still good for me lol

[shell notch]

Sure I don't mind I just have to install cinabench

Remember it also depends on the laptop setup

[dense gale]

Don't forget HWMonitor for CPU temps

[shell notch]

What fan mode do you want

[dense gale]

Also just run with it sitting on a table and not like a best case scenario where it's like in tent mode with a fan blowing at it

Fan mode?

[shell notch]

Yeah the laptop has a couple of fan modes

The fans can spin up to like 6800 rpm

Let me go see what they are called

Silent, performance or turbo

[shell notch]

so which mode do you want for the reference

[dense gale]

Performance

[shell notch]

ok

[shell notch]

want multicore i assume?

[dense gale]

Yeah lol

[shell notch]

ok just checking

[dense gale]

ya good

[shell notch]

And for reference it's just sitting on my desk

[dense gale]

👍

This doesn't look too bad!

[shell notch]

Fan speed is at 3900 rpm in performance mode

4 minutes left

FUCK

I CLICKED THE WRONG ONE

Ehhh fuck it let it heat soack

Soak

**

No wonder why it was taking so long to render

It was in fucking single core mode XD

Wow this laptop really let the cpu shooting to 90c before ramping the fans

Within 2½ minutes it went through 5 passes

Looking at it performance mode may not be enough

Max of 93.9C
Average of 84.6c
Minimum of 78c

@dense gale yk what im gunning for that threadripper give me 10 minutes XD

[dense gale]

Jesus

The fact it's that close to a 2990WX is insane

[shell notch]

I fiddled around in asus armory crate and basically told the cpu it can draw like 135w

[dense gale]

Woah

[shell notch]

In the run I posted the limit was set to 110w

In response to that I cranked the fans to 90%

[shell notch]

the next run is 1000 points worse XD

[dense gale]

I wonder how bad my PC would be with cinabench lol

[shell notch]

Lol

[dense gale]

Rn I have the i5-6500 for a bit til my friend gets that i7-3770 then I'd put my i7-7700 back in cause I need to help her with that lil upgrade, and just using this cause I felt like it lol and it's not doing too bad unless I try to play like Fortnite

[dense gale]

With a max of 58C thanks to this cool Hyper 212 cooler!

I'm gonna do this again when I put the i7-7700 back in

[shell notch]

Lol

[shell notch]

When you realize my laptop cpu beat a server cpu

Or is this a HEDT cpu

Nah it's a xeon so it has to be server

Granted it's a 6 year old cpu

But it's still a cpu with 50% more cores and can draw like 50% more power

Actually that's just what's it's rated at

It could drae more than 205w

I need to run that test again to see how much power the 7940HX was drawing

[dense gale]

Can you just let it draw as MUCH power as you can?

[shell notch]

asus armory crate has limits so normally by default the apu can hit 135w but for like only 2 seconds and then like 125w for like 10 seconds and 110w with no time limit

i can raise the no time limit to 135w

but heck even when it was set to 110w i only saw it drawing like 50w

granted that could just be the fact that i cant read hwinfo to save my life

but like i raised the power limit earlier when i did that second run but the score went down

[dense gale]

Wish I had a K cpu, this cooler could do so much

[shell notch]

and i dont understand why

the only thing i can think of is the fans not actually going to 90% at like 80c like i told them to

granted i was listening to music on my headphones while cleaning up after my puppies so i couldnt hear it

but ill go try it real quick

So doing it in turbo mode and it's running at like 4.3ghz on all 16 cores

[dense gale]

Holy shit

[shell notch]

And it's averaging 100w rn

Here's a bit

It briefly switches to single core to load up the new pass

So then like 15 of the cores drop to like 2.7ghz while the other core spikes to 5.1ghz

Then once the test is actually going is when I see that 4.3ghz ish

Cpu fan rn is at like 5900 rpm

[dense gale]

How do you check your RPM?

[shell notch]

In asus armory crate

[dense gale]

Ohhh... yeah I can't do that lol

Wait maybe my motherboard is asus

[shell notch]

Ok so

The test is finished

Keep in mind this is just in turbo mode so besides fan speeds idk if it does anything to the cpu

Ok so I went into manual mode

So now the cpu is going at 4.5ghz on all 16 cores

Cinebench thinks I'm on windows 10

[dense gale]

How do I find my Fan's RPM?

[shell notch]

ok this is full tilt

[shell notch]

i have no idea with older boards

[dense gale]

Well where is it on yours?

[shell notch]

i used asus armory crate its a software that you can get from asus's website

it came preinstalled on this laptop

[dense gale]

Yeah I downloaded it

Tell me where it's at

[shell notch]

you just go to home and it should be there on the right

[dense gale]

Oh you have TUF armoury crate

This is my home page

[shell notch]

well i dont know for that

[dense gale]

Found somone who said my "8GB Isn't Enough" opinion well

[shell notch]

Is or isn't because they sound like they are saying it is just turn down the settings

[dense gale]

That's it

Games already look insanely good at Medium settings nowadays, in most cases I've seen I can't tell a difference between High and Ultra other than the lower frame rate

[shell notch]

imo it really just depends on the game

some games want more vram than the others

just the way it is

[dense gale]

It's mostly newer AAA games

I got told I was stupid for wanting to get a 4060 if the majority of games I'm playing are Minecraft, Stardew, and Fortnite with some friends lol

[shell notch]

lol

[broken cypress]

If someone said that to me, I'd object. There's no need for the clarification. Anything after "stupid" is redundant, and quite frankly, the "friends" part is insulting.

[dense gale]

???

[shell notch]

huh?

[broken cypress]

I joke that clarifiers are unnecessary when calling me stupid, and friends willing to put up with my antics while playing.

[dense gale]

ok?

What does that have to do with the 4060?

[broken cypress]

But as an addendum, if you play higher-demanding mod packs in Minecraft, you should take that into account.

[dense gale]

I don't think modpacks use vram, it's regular ram I think they use. And I just play regular

[native imp]

Shaders can use a good bit of vram

[dense gale]

Ohh yeah

I forget they exist cause my card runs the one I like bad

[red rock]

I hate people that say that shit

Like you can mod the FUCK out of minecraft and stardew

Also, who cares? It's your money. Who's to say you don't wanna play other games at some point. You then have so much wiggle room

Sounds like someone who thinks they're a tech junkie elitist, but is actually a dumbass

[sterile ledge]

maxed out minecraft with shaders is the best thing

[red rock]

I make my PC PURRRR runnin cobblemon on max

Speaking of that the owner still hasn't contacted me for payment or discuss future stuff like we discussed

[sterile ledge]

as you should

also what owner? what did i miss?

[red rock]

Of Mythical since I've been partnered with them. Hopefully he's just busy, but I've tried to mention it 2x now

[dense gale]

“You should just get the 4070 Super for the best value or RX 7800 XT, and you’re stupid for having a distrust in a company that burnt you before” -literally everyone when i was in the LTT server i talked too

[dense gale]

I have yet to touch modded outside of iris for shaders and oh man it scares me, theres SO much out there

[red rock]

We used Complimentary Shaders the last few times and I liked it quite a bit. Wasn't too much visually, which was nice

[dense gale]

Oh yeah those are my favourite! My poor 960 can’t manage a smooth frame rate so they come on if I’m having a cinematic moment and wanna feel cool

[slim bridge]

I started using Minecraft shaders and I am never going back

[sterile ledge]

the create mod or whatever mod adds all those mechanisms seemed really cool
but yeah i have yet to touch solo modded outside of shaders

[red rock]

Create is fun as long as you play solo, otherwise it lags the FUCK out of the server for everyone

[dense gale]

My brain is having a hard time playing with shaders even of they’re lighter on my PC. I’ve played so long without any that my brain screams at me when I use them lol like “what is this??? Lighting in MY geometry game???”

[sterile ledge]

oh yeah the trees/grass wiggling in my shaders sometimes catches me off guard

[dense gale]

The trees wiggle made me nauseous, have to turn that off

[slim bridge]

The leaf bridge was wiggling over the void in the end dimension

I was so scared

[dense gale]

Lol

[dense gale]

I’m realizing i worded this wrong
Like i meant they’re like “its stupid” cause the 4060 is “the worst card ever” apparently and not cause my games aren’t demanding 😅 Oops sorry for the confusion!

[sterile ledge]

oh, well the other thing you didnt mean is also stupid lol

[dense gale]

True

[sterile ledge]

but also people calling any current gen card (or really any recent card) bad is just ...

[dense gale]

Although I’d be fine with a GTX 1650

The only thing RTX I’d want is Minecraft’s RTX cause it’s pretty but only like one play through 😂

[sterile ledge]

yeah idk what to think about RT. i think my card supports it? but i dont use it

[dense gale]

I know on some cases the GTX 1080 Ti can brute force it even wothout the actual RT cores

Absolute beast

Honestly idk my standards for a computer and it sucks

Something that sucks about laptop stuff is the lack of benchmarks

I found no benchmarks for the RX 7700S online and a tower is hella annoying to deal with

[sterile ledge]

this is the site i usually use
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+RX+7700S&id=4887

tho recently i havent been worrying about benchmarks ... its just too much info

like i really dont care if i can get 5 more fps from ... idk an msi gpu vs an xfx gpu (of the same model)

[dense gale]

I use that site for CPUs but don’t like their GPU section

For example, it only had GTX 960… which one? There’s a 2GB and 4GB

Also sometimes they give the score and none of the data above it

CPUs its generally a lot better

Another thing was my GTX 650 Ti is a 1GB model and they only have a 2GB listed

The GPU section seems a bit lacking

[sterile ledge]

idk when they started it but maybe its cuz they have less info on older cards

[dense gale]

Woah

I understand why people spend $1,800 on a 4090😂

[shell notch]

Well my previous laptop has finally kicked the bucket

I mostly used it for reading

But one of the fans started making weird noises out of no where to the point it woke me up

Because I would leave it on

And when I went to close it the screen kicked the bucket

So I've moved my new laptop into my room

[dense gale]

I’m actually thinking about getting a RTX 2060

For like $130

Or 2070 Super for $150-$170

Depends on money when i have a job

[shell notch]

OH SHIT

PS5 PRO

700$

[dense gale]

Wtf

At that point just buy a used gaming deskop

[limber fog]

Yeah 700 is insane

For no disc drive either ....

And it's even bigger than the regular ps5 😭

[dense gale]

I love Jack's reaction haha

He said he's one of the people who can see the difference in graphics and he said in their presentation there was like not that big a difference lol

I can't wait for this to come out and hopefully the base will drop a lot lol

[limber fog]

Yeah I think it will lol

[shell notch]

vertical stand not included

[limber fog]

Yup that's separate also

[shell notch]

good thing i recently got me a new laptop

[shell notch]

oh one thing i never pointed out

even though this laptop i have now is a 16 inch laptop it has a smaller footprint compared to my previous laptop even though that one was a 15 inch

[dense gale]

Bad gamer new, PC fell
Gonna save you the big details but here's the main things
240GB SSD + 2TB HDD --> 240GB SSD (HDD Sata connector broke)
GTX 960 --> GTX 650 Ti (960 artifacted like crazy)
Case broke a lil but it's overall fine

[shell notch]

Yk this laptop is annoying the piss outta me

Constantly having weird connection issues on wifi

My screen and randomly flickering

It doesn't like if I tab put of a game

[dense gale]

Is your game just in full screen?

Cause that just happens if you tab out while in full screen

[shell notch]

i should clarify when i say it doesnt like when i tab out. i mean it puts any application i have open in the top left but when i go to fullscreen it it goes to the middle then i have to hit fullscreen again for it to actually go into full screen

[shell notch]

full screen windowed

[dense gale]

Is it only in games when you tab out? How long does it last

[shell notch]

no it does it even if i have discord full screen

and as long as something isnt completely in windowed mode it will always do it and its annoying af

i kept thinking oh its a windows 11 thing because my previous laptop which used windows 10 didnt have the issue but this does. but then i remembered my dads pc doesnt have this issue either

[dense gale]

If you can I’d try to contact Asus’s warranty cause I’m sure your laptop would’ve come with it

Yeah no its not a Win 11 thing

[shell notch]

good thing rn is im not really using this thing for gaming that much

since i have weird connection issues with this thing

im mainly using it for reading since my previous laptop kicked the bucket

btw

if you intend on getting this laptop

dont expect much for battery life

it gave me an estimate at one point for like less than 3 hours

[dense gale]

“I got a 4070 and 7940HX laptop””im using it for reading”😭

[shell notch]

XD

i want to use it for gaming

but the last time i played on it my connection issues were so wack

ik its mostly down to my router

but when i had this thing on ethernet it would randomly switch to wifi

i made a new cable for that

i honestly just need to use this thing more for gaming because my biggest issue is i cant fucking see anything

too used to my dads setup with the 43 inch tvs

[shell notch]

yk ever since i switched the gpu to eco mode to basically force it to use the igpu amds software has been bugging me to update the drivers on the igpu XD

[dense gale]

Yeah should def try that

[shell notch]

im only using it for reading and the occasional yt video its not like im gonna game on this igpu XD

ill do it later

i just dont feel like doing it rn

[dense gale]

I have an idea tho

Maybe the flickering is it switching from the 4070 to the iGPU

[shell notch]

i honestly have a stupid idea on why it may have done it

because its not a constant thing

i have a feeling i may have slightly hit the screen with my foot a couple of days ago

because since i brought it into my room i dont have a desk for it so it sits on my bed

well at one point i decided to watch something on my phone and put the laptop to the foot of my bed

and i may have accidentally hit it when moving my leg

but imma put it to the igpu thing

ive now switched it to optimized

so it will switch between the igpu and the 4070 when needed

i still find it funny that this thing takes up a smaller footprint compared to my previous laptop despite having a bigger screen

[dense gale]

Yeah thats cool

Speaking of, i need to get a new case, mines hella broken

Pcpartpicker shows it at like $50 somewhere else

[sturdy loom]

Has anyone looked at the pre-built PC setups Costco has? I always see them and they seem reasonably priced. I am just not sure if their specs are good or if they are mid setups

[shell notch]

i actually really like this case ive heard good things about it

[dense gale]

Can you send a link to them? I’m sure they vary location to location

[dense gale]

I just need something cheap that looks nice and isnt falling apart

[shell notch]

XD

[dense gale]

I have a PowerSpec case and its such a piece of junk

[shell notch]

oh

microcenter brand

iirc

[sturdy loom]

https://www.costco.com/MSI Codex R2 Gaming Desktop - 14th Gen Intel Core i7-14700F - GeForce RTX 4060, 8GB - Windows 11 Home.product.4000289003.html?COSTID=iosapp_24.8.3&TRACKING=NO&mboxSession=C0A88810-5A07-47D6-A36B-7B2ADC4EC788&sh=true&nf=true

https://www.costco.com/CyberPowerPC Gamer Xtreme Gaming Desktop - Intel Core Processor i5-14400F - GeForce RTX 4060.product.4000251820.html?COSTID=iosapp_24.8.3&TRACKING=NO&sh=true&nf=true

[dense gale]

I got it for $40 on craigslist and its missing a foot to it falls over, the drive cage bent so its out and now its awful

[dense gale]

The config is strange on this one
A 14700F to have a 4060 is weird

[shell notch]

i was about to say

the 2nd one is wayy better XD

[dense gale]

The config/price on here seems good though

[shell notch]

now its got me thinking

what kind of pc can i spec for 1200$

[dense gale]

@sturdy loom i know you’re looking at prebuilts but would you be into potentially building it yourself? You’d save money over the fee prebuilt manufacturers add for building and their cheaping out in certain places

There’s plenty of guides online but if you don’t feel comfortable doing that i totally get it

[sturdy loom]

I’ve considered building it myself, I’ve done a decent amount of research. I think the convenience of a prebuilt is swaying me a tad bit.

[shell notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqVr34

i did my thing XD

[dense gale]

You should start asking questions first

[sturdy loom]

This is my current computer I game on

[shell notch]

i purely did it because i wanted to see what i could spec for that price wasnt ment for them

[dense gale]

What kinds of games do you play/want to play?
Do you plan to stream or record?
What resolution will you play at?
Other than gaming what do you plan to do?

[sturdy loom]

But it was my school laptop (used a lot of Autodesk product) but it’s like 5 years old and the storage sucks ass

Baldurs gate, modded Minecraft, Overwatch possibly. I have an Xbox series X too and that’s what I game on the most I’d say. So also another reason I’ve been debating if the money is worth spending

[dense gale]

Honestly nowadays, unless you’re going Nintendo Switch, console isn’t worth the price

[sturdy loom]

No plans to stream/record atm, possibly continue using autodesk items.

[dense gale]

Okie, give me a bit and i can try to get you something going

Btw what’s your budget?

And do you need wifi?

[sturdy loom]

In the $1200 range, wifi or I could connect to Ethernet

[dense gale]

Okie cause ethernet can save a bit on a motherboard

[shell notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R3vzBL

bam only like 10$ more than the previous one XD

1136$

damn the 7700x is cheap af rn

210$

[dense gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3jKC34

[dense gale]

Minecraft runs on OpenGL

[shell notch]

ok?

[dense gale]

Nvidia runs way better on OpenGL

[shell notch]

its a 7800xt vs a 4070 its not gonna be such a huge difference that it would make the gameplay not enjoyable considering how powerful the cards are

granted

i dont play minecraft

so i wouldnt know

[sturdy loom]

Thank you! My laptop has been having some weird issues, I put it through a lot for school. Could be driver issues, but it’s also 5 years old running 100Kmb+ revit files almost every day for 2 years.

[shell notch]

if its better than go for it

[dense gale]

If there’s not much of a different I’d say the 4070 cause like i said, OpenGL on AMD isn’t the best

[dense gale]

She’s a powerhouse though! She’s doing her best

[shell notch]

what res are they playing at

[dense gale]

@sturdy loom ?

[dense gale]

I didn’t notice they didn’t replay to that

[shell notch]

i have an idea

[shell notch]

me neither hence why i asked

[sturdy loom]

Just why I’m considering switching to PC set up

[dense gale]

What resolution?

[shell notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KcvzBL

[sturdy loom]

For the pc? I don’t have a preference really, whatever is standard or unnecessarily high

[dense gale]

There’s 1080P, 1440P, and 4K
I recommend 1080P personally unless apps you use are a little cramped them I’d recommend 1440P

[shell notch]

whats the resoultion of your screen

[sturdy loom]

I think 1080P is what I have now, so I’d probs rolls with that

[dense gale]

Hell yeah

[shell notch]

Here me out

If I'm able to somehow disable like half of my cpu cores and I still raise the powerlimit do you think I can get more than 4.5ghz all core?

[dense gale]

Rate my computer
i7-7700, 32GB ram at 2400 but they run at 2400 and a GTX 650 Ti 1GB

It's so cursed

[shell notch]

depends on the criteria

the only "bad" part of it is the gpu

being that you arent playing any super demanding games and dont really care about going to max settings the 7700 is fine unless you want to use windows 11

[dense gale]

I dont want to use windows 11 but sadly ill have to

GTX 650 Ti is enough for Minecraft tho!

[shell notch]

lol

[dense gale]

It only drops a lot when im playing lethal company alone 🤣

With they at least let you lower your resolution without changing your desktop resoltuion

[dense gale]

The GTX 650 Ti good enough to edit 720p 60fps video in Premiere Pro! Who knew!

[shell notch]

ummmm

FSR 4.0 is gonna be ai based

and this is according to jack huynh, senior VP and General Manager of the Computing and Graphics Business Group at AMD

[dense gale]

Isn't FSR already?

Is that not how all the upscalers work?

Also what's wrong with upscalers being AI based? Imo, that's one of the better uses of AI

[shell notch]

never said anything was wrong with that

also no they were AI based

werent****

nvidias DLSS was

but in order to get fsr to market faster they didnt make it ai based

well i should say

maybe fsr 3.0 since it used frame generation

not quite sure but jack huynh said FSR 4.0 will use AI algorithms more extensively. because before they used filters.

there are people who know more about this than i do i simply just read an article that caught my eye

[shell notch]

oh also AMD is going to be combining their gpu architectures again under the UDNA name. back in 2019/2020 depending on how you want to look at it ill use 2020 for this because thats what the article says. i say 2019/2020 because in 2019 is when RDNA 1 came out ie the RX 5000 series of gaming gpus but CDNA came out in 2020 with the MI 100 gpu.

so this will basically be kinda like how GCN was. GCN being the architecture that powered amd gpus from 2012 up until the Radeon VII came out

while making improvements throughout its life span

[shell notch]

this was also comfirmed by Jack Huynh. so its not a rumor

i say "also comfirmed" as if i heard it somewhere else before he said it. stupid me and my poor wording he was the only one ive heard it from

[dense gale]

GTX 800 series was on the same architecture as 600 and 700 right?

[shell notch]

There was no 800 series

[dense gale]

Yeah there was

[shell notch]

Damn them my memory is off

[dense gale]

It was laptop only

[shell notch]

Oh you are looking at laptop

Thought you were referring to desktop

They are on the same Kepler architecture as the 700 series

Actually anytime I look it gives me a different answer

Fun

Fuck it its old I'm not gonna waste my brain power on it trying to understand it when I'm lacking brain power rn

[dense gale]

They’re just cheaper than like 900 series laptops and I dont need a lot of power from a laptop so they caught me eye

[dense gale]

16 GB?? Intel giving AMD a run for their money 🤣

[shell notch]

lol yk what its referring to right? XD

[shell notch]

thinking about it thats more ram than my 4070 in my laptop XD

[dense gale]

yeah i know

Well I have a 32GB kit

[shell notch]

😦

so hear me out

if this thing could draw more power wouldnt it perform better than the 4060ti XD

damn the 4060ti clocks like a full 1GHz faster than the 4070 mobile XD

NANI

the 4070 mobile is pcie 4.0 x16 while the 4060ti desktop is pcie 4.0 x8 XD

[shell notch]

the 4060ti also apparently uses faster vram which i was not aware of

[shell notch]

correction the clock speeds i was looking at is the 4070 mobile at 80w

so in reality the actual clockspeed difference is going to be like 600-700MHz depending on if the 4060ti has a manual overclock on it

idk why i said manual overclock the gpu is naturally gonna boost on its own depending on power limit, temperature and voltage

[dense gale]

Conclusion, both kinda suck 🤣

[shell notch]

Oh god

[dense gale]

Lethal at 720 on the 630 gets about 30 FPS

[shell notch]

I think a hamster powered gpu would be faster than that HD 7470 XD

[dense gale]

Hopefully I can find a low enough resolution to keep recording 😅 I already made a video and it'd feel awkward

[shell notch]

Lol

Yk I saw an article a couple of days ago of biostar releasing a new rx 580 XD

oh god

its the poopy rx 580

[dense gale]

I've been thinking about something like this

I'd even be fine with a GTX 700-900 series honestly

My computer can't do a GPU now

[dense gale]

The case is fucked and I'm done spending money on the actual computer

[shell notch]

what do they mean dominate the mid-range market

[dense gale]

The 580 is popular

And on release I think it was midranged

[shell notch]

that gpu is actually 1 month away from being 6 years old

[shell notch]

very much was because amd wasnt making high end gpus at the time

[dense gale]

If they were the 580 would still be midranged?

[shell notch]

i just dont understand how they will "dominate the mid-range market" with a gpu thats 6 years old

[shell notch]

yes

[shell notch]

the 580 was a good value card did it compete with nvidias high end at the time. no it didnt it competed in the mid-range which was fine

another issue i have with this new biostar card is its not a normal rx 580

its the rx 580 2048sp

which is a cut down version of the rx 580

[dense gale]

GTX 1070m is still good enough for gaming nowadays right?

I’m not really playing new AAA games and if I did I’m fine with low cause that looks really good on new games

[shell notch]

No idea

[dense gale]

oh wow

mem clock has to be falsey reported on the mobile

8GHz is insane if true

but based on the somethings missing + # of samples being so off I'm assuming it's just worng

[shell notch]

it is false

from what i can see at least

[dense gale]

The memory clock specifically?

[shell notch]

Yes

It's still gddr5 after all

[dense gale]

Ahh yeah that makes more sense 😅

Also turns out that old Minecraft is broken on Intel drivers so to play like Minecraft 1.7 I need to install my Radeon HD 7470 that I have only cause it came in that Dell that stopped working

[dense gale]

It runs so bad LMAO

Valorant is what I would barely consider playable

[dense gale]

What are your guys' personal goat GPUs?

Mine is the good ol GTX 765M

[sterile ledge]

and radeon vega 64 LC

or do you mean the best gpu we currently have

[shell notch]

Gtx 1080ti

[dense gale]

If you’ve had a 1080 Ti thats just cheating 🤣

[native imp]

3060TI that I am very grateful I got for free

[dense gale]

Yoo

[sterile ledge]

oh i don’t have a liquid cooled vega 64 haha
but my radeon 7900 xtx is putting in work rn

[shell notch]

oh you are referring to a gpu we have had. ummmmm rx 6800xt

[faint edge]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[dense gale]

Right now I’m using the radeon hd 7470 and let me tell you

This is not my goat

[dense gale]

So new question, your guys’ goat cpu?

Personally Intel i7-4700MQ

[sterile ledge]

ryzen 7 7700x

at this point lemme just share the pcpartpicker link for my pc lol

[dense gale]

Lol

My goat is the laptop i had last year that i want to find agaib

MSI GE something 70E i think

It was my baby

[native imp]

My best would be my ryzen 5 5600. My favorite would probably be the 1ghz Intel single core I had from 1999 to 2010 lmao

[shell notch]

i7 7700hq

my best cpu is the cpu in my current laptop

but the 7700HQ was the one i had for the longest. i personally had it for like 4 years but the laptop is a bit older than that because it used to be my uncles

[dense gale]

Hell yeah

Mobile i7 gang

What GPU was paired with it?

[shell notch]

Gtx 1060

[dense gale]

so close to a pog 1070

Was it 3GB or 6GB?

[shell notch]

6gb

[dense gale]

Hell yeah!

I had a 970M for a bit and the 3GB was annoying cause alot of games needed 4GB, so in Big Team Battle on Halo Infinite a lot of like character/tree texture wouldn't load right lol

[dense gale]

I found my dream laptop

Still supported with an i7-8750H (6-Core, 12-Thread), GTX 1070M, and 32GB of RAM

AND she's a chonky laptop

I love chonky gaming laptops

Thin gaming laptops feel illegal

17.3" 3840x2160 panel at 120Hz is INSANE

But I'd just scale it down to 1080 cause honestly thats fine for the size lol

[sterile ledge]

chonky laptops better because more ports nodders

[shell notch]

Also easier to repair

[dense gale]

All the above

I know on some new laptops they prioritize thinness over being able to replace ram or ssd

Also better cooling cause you can have insane fans

[shell notch]

even on some thicker gaming laptops half the ram comes soldered to the motherboard

you may actually find it on some cheaper gaming laptops because its simply cheaper to do it like that

[shell notch]

oh shit

wrong chat

[dense gale]

i5-2500K coming in so I can use the Dell yay!

I’d say on my big thing with the i7-7700 and that 32gb but im ashamed of it cause how ugly the case is cause it brokey

[dense gale]

Let me tell you
i5-2500 + HD 7470 is not a good combo

It works, but not very well

[dense gale]

RX 570 on the way!

[sterile ledge]

[dense gale]

An insane upgrade too

Current GTA 5 gets like 25 fps at like .65 of 720p, Minecraft on lower settings 1080p gets like 50 and is usually gpu bound, and i opened indigo park and it got like 15-20 fps on the actual lowest wIth FXAA

I’ll post update how the 570 runs some games when I get it

[dense gale]

It came in and 8 hours later i issued a refund lol

[sterile ledge]

[dense gale]

I'm thinking about getting a GTX 780

Lets hope when I order that (probably monday) that it actually works

The issue with the RX 570 was the drivers refused to install and I've never had issues with Nvidia's drivers

[dense gale]

Guys take it from me. Don’t render videos on a 2012 i5

This is a 48 minute video

720P 60FPS

[shell notch]

Clearly you needed the i3 from 2012 XD

[dense gale]

If I do a lot of video rendering but also gaming should I go for the Ryzen 7 5800X or the Ryzen 7 5700X3D?

[shell notch]

I would say 5800x

Because of higher core clocks

But you may have to do more research

Rendering is multi core right?

[dense gale]

Yeah

[shell notch]

If it is then go with the 5800x because the cores are going to boost higher

Oh well you answered that while I was typing XD

[dense gale]

Do you think ram speed matters?

[shell notch]

Not sure

I don't do rendering

[dense gale]

It does apparently

Ugh, i might have to go AM5

But also the 14600K is in consideration

At that price

Cause Vegas does use e cores apparently

[shell notch]

Make sure you read the fine print of intels supported ram speeds

[dense gale]

You can still run it at higher speeds

If you can’t run DDR5 at a fast enough speed for it to be worth that’d be such bullshit

For double the price, which honestly I am still thinking about that 5800X

$50 vs $100

For ram

Then the boards and cpus are way more

Ugh, why are computers so complicated

[shell notch]

What I'm saying when I'm referring to this is the ddr5 speeds I saw this when the intel cpu breaking was super big. That they say ddr5 5200 but if you were using 4 dims it was like 4400

[dense gale]

Ordered a GTX 780 today!

[dense gale]

I ordered it at the right time! Yesterday it started shipping and I can't wait. My poor current card is having issues!

I'm editing and the entire screen went black and like had artifact lines for a second then came back

I'm like.... not too confident in this to keep working for much longer ^v^

The framerate when just playing a 720P60 video back at 1/4 res is so bad I stare at the timeline instead of the video

That lag could be my CPU in which case, ouch. a i7-3770K is $40

[shell notch]

Lol

[dense gale]

Non-K is $25! I’ll ask about getting that (man I really need a job)

[dense gale]

i7-3770 ordered!!

[dense gale]

She’s here

[shell notch]

nice

[dense gale]

Its amazing

[dense gale]

spit on that thang (im not sorry)

[winter cedar]

Honestly, great fans

[dense gale]

They better be

The new ones are like $150

Which is crazy

[shell notch]

Overpriced

[shell notch]

Ryzen 9000X3D November 7th

[slim bridge]

I guess I can say that I am a fan

[dense gale]

Not gonna argue on that. Don’t they have like a $60 cooler thats still good and reliable?

[winter cedar]

[shell notch]

they are all good and reliable all it is is a heatsink with a fan the only thing that can be unreliable about it is the fan

[dense gale]

Im gonna try to get that Hyper 212 in the next computer i make if i still keep it. Its a nice little cooler

[shell notch]

i think they do have a cheaper cooler but i rather just get a thermalright cooler i forget which one it is but its cheaper its like 30$ and performs better than 60$ coolers form noctua

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

found it

[dense gale]

This is the one I got at a BestBuy a while ago for that i7-7700 that I used for like 2 months lol

[shell notch]

34$ btw

[dense gale]

I already have this one though

[shell notch]

this cooler easily is the most volatile in price

it goes up and down in price so much

i think ive seen it go for 15$

i dont remember

but

[dense gale]

Does it really matter though?

[shell notch]

for a 7700 not really

you dont need a big cooler for it

[dense gale]

I mean the price changing, since I already have it.

[shell notch]

oh no since you already have it

im just saying the hyper 212s price changes so much

[dense gale]

I’m thinking about like a i5-12600KF or something in that range on my next PC. Or getting like an older MSI Laptop cause I love those

[shell notch]

the thing i do like that noctua does

is if you have proof of purchase you can get a newer mounting kit for newer sockets on older coolers

for free btw

[dense gale]

Yeah that is pretty nice

[shell notch]

still too much for a damn air cooler but hey its something

[dense gale]

Yeah way too much. For like $86 you can get Corsair’s 240mm AIO

[shell notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CfcgXL/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-a-rgb-4882-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00144a

this is only 107$

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/84MTwP/noctua-nh-d15-chromaxblack-8252-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-d15-chromaxblack

this is 120$

and performs a good bit worse than the LF3

[dense gale]

LF3?

[shell notch]

but the air cooler is lower maintenance

liquid freezer 3

its the name of that aio

i just didnt feel like typing it everytime

me=lazy

XD

[dense gale]

I wanna get like this. It’s be like a year or so of having it, but I do also just want a laptop. And a GTX 1070 is more than enough for me! Hell I’m fine with my 780

[shell notch]

lol

[shell notch]

my previous laptop was similar to this

[dense gale]

6 Cores is gonna be a nice upgrade, and 12 to 32 is a nice ram upgrade

[shell notch]

forget the exact model i just know is was a msi stealth

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MSI my beloved

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mine only had 16 😦

heck my current laptop with the 16 core cpu only has 16gb of ram

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That GTX 765M laptop and the 970M laptop I had were both MSI and they were amazing. I wanna rebuy that GTX 765M one some day again just to have it lol

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lol

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Your laptop would be amazing fir editing

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fuck in my house we still have those old tvs that weighed like 200 pounds

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My i5-2500 is struggling cause its 4 Core and 4 Threads aren’t that amazing for editing. Otherwise its fine

I do have that i7-3770 coming tomorrow hopefully and that’ll be amazing to have

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is it 4 core 8 thread?

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The i7? Yes

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ahhhh

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https://tenor.com/view/battery-scream-meme-gif-18515841

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cant wait till november

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Whys that?

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ryzen 9000X3D

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Are you going to get one?

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no im just interested

being that ryzen 9000 hasnt been selling well

i wonder how the X3D chips will change things

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My advocate for 9000 is if you like the numbers lol

Which I do

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lol

i dont

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9600X, 9700X, and 9900X look nice than their 7000 counterparts

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my favorite number is 8

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Mines 7

But I think 9 fits better

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it does

just looks better

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Also don’t ask why, but the 9 in front feels more feminine LMAO

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also rolls off the tounge better

just because you said not to imma ask

why

XD

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IDFK LMAO

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ahahaha

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I also love the white Corsair 4000D cause in my brain it fits that vibe of the 9600X-9900X

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clearly what you want is this

yk

something ive never understood

being that i look at things a little differently

i remember when steve from GN was talking about case innovation when reviewing a case at one point this was like a year or 2 ago

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That does look cool, but I’m an under the desk to the left girlie lol. If I ever have it on my desk maybe
This is my desk.
Just minus the right monitor cause that broke the other day

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and in my head i was saying. "what do you mean case innovation what is there to innovate its a box with holes in it that you put your pc parts in"

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I also don’t have discord on my PC anymore

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you see my dads pc is to the right of him

which almost caused an issue because of the hdmi ports on the tvs hes using are on the left of the tvs

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He just stares at it, doesn’t even do anything on it😂

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so the hdmi cords were almost not long enough

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lol

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Honestly a TV setup sounds sick

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the case my dad is using is a lan cool 216

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Would not do my back any favours though lol. When I’m on a couch I mess up my back cause I sit all comfy and it’s usually is weird positions

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Oh, I do like that one a lot.

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he just uses 2 43 inch smart tvs

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This case was one of my favourites

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ive seen this one

arent they expensive

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Holy. I only haves 1 24 inch (16:10) and that sometimes feels like a lot.

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I don’t remember. I don’t think you can get it anymore, just knockoffs. The original was like in 2018.

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i wonder if i have a picture of his setup

stupid me

i was wondering why i cant find the photo

im looking way too far back in my photos

i found a photo

but its messy

WAIT

i have an s24

with that stupid advanced intelligence

i can erase shit

give me a second

oh god that was bad

.

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found a different photo with the lights off XD

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Oh lord lmao.

This is my little tech stache

All of it works, and I really need to sell it cause its a lot

The i5-6500 is on the H110 board with the Hyper 212 and 32Gb of GSKILL Ripjaws

And the i7-7700 is on the H270

And my little old iPhone 5C i was on for a bit this year cause it was so cheap

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what you cant see is the pc the chair is blocking it

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Dark mode looks so weird lol

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let me see when i took the photo

oh that makes sense

it was almost 3am

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Oh I’m just a light mode girlie

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lol

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Guys I was wrong, the 780 did nothing for video editing LMAO (btw this is not rendering)

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i7-3770 arrived!!

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@dense gale ummm walmart has a good deal on a 7800x3d

399$

Also really good deal on a 4070

580$ for a pny 4070 is what I could find on pcpartpicker but at Walmart it was 499

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Oh cool

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The i7 is so far amazing for video editing! Sadly 12GB ram isn't :( it's completely full and Vegas keeps freezing for a second then playing again

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Ooof

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Limiting Vegas to 200MB so it mainly uses CPU and GPU and way less ram "helps"

Just not too much

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Btw this was from earlier

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Oh yeah I've eseen that

Omg that's the headset I have!

The mic sucks LMAO

Headphone part is good though!

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Too bad the 4060ti was labeled wrong

When I say it is labeled wrong it says it's a 16gb card for 409$

They only have 8gb cards

The worst deal they have was on the intel cpus

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Omg they 7800X3D is a steal

ONLY $400??

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Told ya

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Nah

You only said the Intel cpus were a bad deal. The 14700K is a good price and nothing about the 7800X3D was mentioned

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@dense gale

So there is no 14700k in that photo

There is a 14900k for 580$ which can found for 442$. Then there is the 14600k for 309$ which can found for 254$

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So yeah...

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I love when Vegas just decides it wants to use all my CPU

I'm just playing it back to do another edit pass and it's a nightmare

I love how spiky this all is while rendering

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I'm watching the Gamers Nexus review for the Intel U9 285K and wow, what a disaster!

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oh yeah

i heard meh stuff about it

apparently

i will say this now

that it may be a software issue

i should go back and make sure im getting that correct but i wont delve too much into that since yall dont like when i talk about things of that nature

i just want to see the ryzen 9000X3D chips already

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You're fine to, just make sure it's accurate. I think the Issue was it was based off rumors or something.