opinions on rank reset

[manic token]

and

there is already 144 roles in vt

[onyx adder]

but cant one just get a badge? like an icon

not necessarily a role

[manic token]

icon = roles

[urban pumice]

how can you get an icon

[onyx adder]

okay fair

[urban pumice]

if you dont have a role ?

[manic token]

the jade icon is because you have jade role

[urban pumice]

you can put it in your name if you want to

[manic token]

but ye i think that having a bot profile with old rank etc is a great idea

[onyx adder]

well yeah that makes sense

[sour igloo]

And uninstall!

[onyx adder]

i still find it to be a good idea though

almost any game out there has this

and i think voltaic benchmarks, as i kinda consider to be our own little game within voltaic, should have it too

It helps the comp aspect of things imho

[manic token]

ye

[onyx adder]

When you said 150 different roles

did you then mean stuff like helper etc too?

cause i dont really see that many roles

it cant actually be that hard to do

[urban pumice]

yes

every role

is counted

for the limit

[onyx adder]

i dont know what that means? what you just said

what i mean is that for the role you obtain in the benchmarks there should be an icon for that role

not everything else

[urban pumice]

it means

that for you to have any sort of badge or icon

you need to have a role

and

there is no space

for roles

[onyx adder]

and if there is 3 roles within each division (gold, gold 2 and gold complete) with 11 different versions there is 33 roles?

[manic token]

bro

[urban pumice]

so youre telling me

[manic token]

there is way more role than 33 ahah

[urban pumice]

that the only roles that sould exist

are rank roles ?

[onyx adder]

yues

yes

obviously

[urban pumice]

ok

so what about

all the functioning roles ?

[onyx adder]

regarding to the benchmark updates

well do you want a S2 helper icon?

[manic token]

wat

[restive light]

why are you white name now

[manic token]

there are already 144roles taken out of 150 (discord's limit)

[onyx adder]

auch

[urban pumice]

because i wanted to be like you 😍

[restive light]

🟡

[onyx adder]

time to cut down those roles

😛

[manic token]

no ?

[urban pumice]

you understand

that a rank role

[manic token]

let's remove every country role lmao

[urban pumice]

has literally no functionality

but the other roles do

?

such as mod

helper

benchmark team

[restive light]

nah i like the rank roles

[urban pumice]

voltaic streaming

and stuff like that ?

[restive light]

i just am not good enough to submit for any ones that id want

[urban pumice]

yeah

char

[restive light]

id submit for astra if i could get it

[urban pumice]

youre obviously bad

youre a white name

[restive light]

and im not going to try to get better

so ive accepeted

ill never get it

[urban pumice]

yeah

your genetics

are too bad

[restive light]

thats not what im saying

[urban pumice]

you have to live with it

im sorry

[restive light]

im saying i dont play kvk anymore

so i cant improve

if im not

[urban pumice]

really

[restive light]

practicing

so i wont get astra

[urban pumice]

ah

youre serious

ok

well

[restive light]

yeah if i was playing and improved to astra and got it id submit for it

[urban pumice]

but

nova isnt good

fair enough

[manic token]

char is astra in my heart

[onyx adder]

im saying that to me cynide, it would be, imho, in voltaics best interest to award people for their "attendance" in "their" version of the kovaaks game.

[restive light]

😍 thankyou my twin

[onyx adder]

you just now mentioned helper and voltaic streaming, but im sure a lot of roles are just not needed

[urban pumice]

char

you have 2 celestial scores

its better than an astra on static

[onyx adder]

example like the country badge

[manic token]

?

that's litteraly one of the worst example you could have take 😭

[urban pumice]

how is the region badge

[restive light]

possibly

[urban pumice]

not needed

[hot star]

Region is useful lol

[urban pumice]

yeah

[onyx adder]

i dont agree at all

[manic token]

this for example could be unneeded roles

[mild quiver]

@manic token he could’ve said the colors

[restive light]

idk when but i think eventually id like to grind gpv and static

[onyx adder]

who gives a shit about region 😛

[restive light]

after reset

[manic token]

yeah exactly

[urban pumice]

why gpv

you already have

celestial air

[restive light]

i think i could get a good score on gpv

[manic token]

who gives a shit about people's previous rank

[onyx adder]

i do 😛

[manic token]

i do care about region

🙂

[mild quiver]

Retweet

[urban pumice]

yeah

i care about region too

[onyx adder]

and im sure a lot of gamers in general do

[mild quiver]

I care about where people are from too

[urban pumice]

and also

[onyx adder]

okay so

imho

[urban pumice]

there are roles for previous achievements

[onyx adder]

why does every game have previous ranked stats available in form of stats/banners/badges etc

[urban pumice]

like legend

[onyx adder]

because people enjoy collecting them

[urban pumice]

because every game

has its own servers

and also

is a game !

[manic token]

because it's in the game itself usually ?

and the devs can do whatever they want ?

it's not the same for a discord server lmao

[restive light]

cynide id also prefer to get radiant over discord role

that would be my main priority

[onyx adder]

do you not see its the same funka? the voltaic benchmarks in the voltaic discord server?

[urban pumice]

i would agree with this statement

but its valorant

[manic token]

bro

[mild quiver]

Why do we want a reward system for a benchmark

[manic token]

discord has nothing to do with voltaic

[urban pumice]

how is it the same

voltaic

runs on discord

and discord

limits you to 150 roles

[onyx adder]

i get that

[urban pumice]

and theres is no way

voltaic is functional

with what youre suggesting

[manic token]

it's like asking a twitch streamer why he can't be naked on stream

it's his channel ok

but twitch runs it lmaop

[onyx adder]

that is the stupidest comparison ive ever heard funka

[manic token]

yeah ik

[urban pumice]

no

its not

[manic token]

but it works

[urban pumice]

its a good comparison

it literally

compares the twitch policy

[mild quiver]

You want irl comparison why can’t you walk outside naked

[urban pumice]

with the discord policy

unless you want voltaic

to be a separate "game"

or sth

outside of discord i mean

(which would not be in voltaics best interest btw)

[manic token]

voltaic software when

[onyx adder]

its the same in the way that one of the things that makes voltaic fun, competitive and nice to be a part of is the possibility to do the benchmarks. The benchmarks are for voltaic what a season is for a game - and what does that get rewarded with? It doesnt matter that the game played is kovaaks, but it is a way to show the previous participation of the benchmarks in earlier seasons

[manic token]

yeah everyone agrees on that

but it doesnt change anything

still 150 roles limits lmao

[mild quiver]

Would be nice to get in game implementation

[manic token]

would be nice ye

[onyx adder]

yeah i see that

but i would spent the roles differently then

but i do see how it would be a problem

going further

since every season would have x amount of roles

[manic token]

there are 27 roles for ranks + leaderboard

[onyx adder]

yeah

[manic token]

imagine 27 * 4 (seasons)

new roles

[onyx adder]

we have to ddos discord

spam them for more roles

[manic token]

😔

[mild quiver]

I’m interested in making a profile system for a website

[onyx adder]

voltaic website with previous seasons??

lol i literally thought the same wan

not that i can make it

but that it would be an option

to create outside of discord then

[manic token]

yeah that's something nice

[onyx adder]

anyway this clarified to me why we cant actually make icons for each season with the limit of 150 roles

i did not understand it this way

[manic token]

[onyx adder]

this makes the question of resetting the rank harder for me

seems like the poll has a clear winner anyway though 😄

makes sense to reset it, but poor people that have really grinded for a certain rank

[lost basin]

thats 108!

[simple scroll]

This + in-game implementation is what we'd be aiming for

And the idea with the discord bot displaying previous achieved rank

[urban pumice]

they can get it again

[onyx adder]

yeah but i can also get masters each season of apex

but i like displaying it with a trail

or a badge

😛

[simple scroll]

However, we'd have no room to display previous ranks even if we'd cut down the amount of roles

[onyx adder]

yeah i get that now

[simple scroll]

And we also can't display icons without roles

[onyx adder]

ive forgiven voltaic, my rage has turned to discord now

😄

[simple scroll]

We'd need discord to add that as a feature

Which would actually be sick

[onyx adder]

yeah would be really nice

😦

[simple scroll]

Imagine you could add your country flag and achieve custom badges on certain servers

Region as well

[onyx adder]

yeah would be really cool

[simple scroll]

And if there was a way to increase role cap that would be great

[onyx adder]

i just didnt understand the concept of max 150 roles total

[simple scroll]

Sadly discord doesn't offer that

[lost basin]

!rankS1

[simple scroll]

yeah ploob

[lost basin]

s-rankS1

[simple scroll]

that's what the command could look like

[modest wadi]

Will the scenarios still be there? Cause I want to get diamond complet before moving to the new season, I don't care if I won't get a role, it's a personal thing.

How is it going to work? Do we have any idea when it will happen?

[simple scroll]

Yep dont worry

u can still play previous benches

[lost basin]

would it be able to show like individual scores for each category or would that be too much

[onyx adder]

im also 1 score from jade complete 😦 i really wanna hit before season ends 😄

[lost basin]

cause that feels a bit overboard

[simple scroll]

what do you mean with that ploob

[lost basin]

like when you type the command an image shows up in the spreadsheet format with like colors for each scen's rank as well as actual rank

[onyx adder]

seems like a lot of work

i think just the rank achieved would be great

and maybe a top 10 or 20 leaderboard could showcase individual scores

like the spreadsheet that voltaic already has

[lost basin]

actually yeah that was a brainfart

[modest wadi]

Could we do it just for the previous season, thou?

[pastel forge]

which one? i just hit jade complete

[modest wadi]

Like, when I start season 5, we have the season 4, for example.

And as we move to season 6, we get the season 5 and delete the previous one.

Isn't it a possibility @simple scroll ?

[onyx adder]

@pastel forge Air voltaic 😦 my highest is 847.5 😦 Which one was your last? 😛

and congrats man!

wp

[pastel forge]

6 sphere 😄

[simple scroll]

No idea what you mean

[onyx adder]

nice nice 😛

[pastel forge]

hit diamond 29. jan

jade complete 17. feb

[onyx adder]

kinda funny how different things are hard to different people 😛

[pastel forge]

• diamond complete

and yeah

im a tracking one-trick and air was def the hardest for me

in tracking category

i have master on it

took me ages to get it

[onyx adder]

for me of all the static ones, 6 sphere was the last one too

wow masters

can you play on my acc?

😄

jk

[urban pumice]

he means that you only keep archive roles for the pervious season

[simple scroll]

Yeah it would end up being the same issue

This (and potential future seasons) would be the only season we'd archive anyway

[modest wadi]

Yup that's it

My plat role would become a "S3 plat" and whatever rank I get next season after its end would become "S4 example" and the "S3 plat" would be deleted for extra role room

But I got it

[simple scroll]

We were even considering lower rank roles

Like Bronze, Silver, Gold

Which would only just fit without II or complete ranks

[urban pumice]

i dont think

this is a good idea

if vt has 144 roles

already

but its just my opinion

[obtuse zenith]

discord becomes really laggy

when you have too many roles

not possible imo

[inland schooner]

remove all II roles bc almost nobody submits for them

[manic token]

[urban pumice]

i would agree

with that statement

[silver thorn]

true remove II roles

except maybe astra II

[manic token]

my role

except nova II

[urban pumice]

wel

nova 2 and astra 2

but gm and below

removing 2 would be a good idea

[inland schooner]

make 2 the new requirement for 1 😼

[urban pumice]

i agree

with that statement

[inland schooner]

nah I don't mean that one

[urban pumice]

i do

[woven umbra]

[ripe cove]

2 is the new 1

[woven umbra]

Ill be unranked anyways

Next season

[manic token]

same doniel

it's fine tho

heads up

[inland schooner]

🧐

[urban pumice]

next season

[manic token]

[urban pumice]

matty is gonna be

1.8k volts

😍

[silver thorn]

its ok you'll always be the first ever NVC

[woven umbra]

💪

[manic token]

💪

[urban pumice]

daan is the first ever nova c ?

[woven umbra]

Ye

[manic token]

no it was me

[raven ivy]

first dual nova too

[urban pumice]

POG

[raven ivy]

💪

[urban pumice]

dual

...

[raven ivy]

i will be the last ever nova c

[manic token]

@raven ivy send me a good song

like the no title one

plz

[raven ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB-9RDzF-Gw

[lost basin]

remove II roles

🔥

[raven ivy]

idk man do u want like hardstyle stuff

[manic token]

what style is the no title 2 one

[manic token]

this is nice

[raven ivy]

idek

[onyx adder]

i want a nerd role to see who knows and who are still coping

[raw socket]

what is wrong with the hipfire bm, why's it being removed?

[lost basin]

it sucks!

[raw socket]

why?

[lost basin]

idk easy to cheese doesnt really benchmark anything special

[viscid adder]

are you adding movement based scenarios for the new benchmarks? I feel like it's super underrated

[raw socket]

close together targets?

[lost basin]

clusters sure but you can argue that that works in 1w4ts as well

not as heavily but

[lost basin]

sini said he was looking into it

[viscid adder]

sick

[obtuse zenith]

sparky benchmarks had movement i think

gone now tho

[viscid adder]

yeah, they used to

but, back then no one wanted to play it so it got removed, but now's different

[raven ivy]

It's not really that there was a significant lack of interest

it's just really hard to design non-cheesable movement scoring systems

[viscid adder]

true that, definitively a big factor

[raven ivy]

most of the scens just incentivized strafing in a circle

for the entire minute

or 2 min+ for lgc3 and air dodge

[viscid adder]

Would anti-mirror and mirroring be interesting for benchmarks?

or would it incorporate both in one scenario

[raven ivy]

that's one possible idea thats been thrown around ye

[viscid adder]

either have their own separate scenarios within movement, or be each their own category within movement

who knows🤷‍♂️

[small flicker]

new bench 1w5ts

[lost basin]

LETSGOOOOO

[obtuse zenith]

movement static benchmarks less go

[raven ivy]

pistol strafe gallery sparky is returning

no changes

no leaderboard reset

back by popular demand

not even renamed

[inland schooner]

but i'm bad at that one

[simple scroll]

pasu will have increased speed

and instead of SQRT acc you will have only 1 bullet in the mag

[inland schooner]

@urban pumice thoughts?

[delicate pawn]

[ripe cove]

cynide is going to love this

i still refuse to play pasu voltaic

or any versions

of it

seems like i still will next season

[restive light]

Pasu is good

Not saying I’ll play it

But it’s good

[urban pumice]

I like the concept

[sour marlin]

I like this a lot. Thought SQRT acc. was unnecessary and always thought Pasu should've been treated more like faster Popcorn.

[ripe cove]

i mean i like it more than sqrt but i still dislike it

[silver thorn]

maybe a 2 round mag?

[mild quiver]

lets make it 3

[small flicker]

I thought this was gonna be the change honestly

[ripe cove]

no mag

[hard cypress]

what is SQRT

im lost

[lost basin]

3 round mag that replenishes after 2 kills 😱

[random herald]

square root

[small flicker]

Or a hit only replenishes 1 bullet

[hard cypress]

What does it mean in terms of Kovaaks tho?

[manic token]

Your Score = Hits × Sqrt(Your accuracy in decimal form)

E.g., 80 hits with 80% accuracy:
Your Score = 80 × Sqrt(0.8) = 80 × 0.894 = 71.55

this is a way of calculating the final score

pasu voltaic is using sqrt

[pastel terrace]

strafe scen as bench 🙏

[outer lily]

real

needs to be an invincible sausage scenario

[urban pumice]

this already exists in 1w4 pasu raspberry

and its kinda pointless

[small flicker]

Ah I see, I thought it was more so gonna be decreased bullet count but to 2 not 1

[urban pumice]

i think

the way pasu works now

is more than fine

[small flicker]

I think it’s cool that all benches have no acc pen now

Easier for new ppl to understand

[urban pumice]

well

[dire valley]

Why is it pointless though? a hit only replenishes 1 bullet would reduce the RNG aspect in pasu and still stop you from apeing

[urban pumice]

maybe the could make the easy version have no acc scoring

[urban pumice]

because you reload when you miss 3 times in a row

but if you miss 2 times

[dire valley]

Maybe make the reload longer

[urban pumice]

thats just

annoying

and frustrating

not being able to play the scenario for a prolonged period of time

its gonna end up like popcorn

sqrt acc is the sweet spot

[dire valley]

Yeah agree, would be really annoying to play

[urban pumice]

also

idk if its me

but i dont even notice the diff in the regular reload system

and the 1 bullet refund system

because

when i reload i just miss all my shots

but when i hit

i usually make hit chains

so i never like

miss 2

then hit 1

then miss another 2

[raven ivy]

I hope they remove gauntlet type scenarios with the new season

they are so annoying to grind because each run takes so long

having a 1min scen instead would be much better in my opinion

[naive terrace]

If you deside to reset, when will it happen?

[urban pumice]

i think the name of the thread must be changed to "opinions on rank reset (NO ETA)"

[lost basin]

check pinned

[urban pumice]

ik about pinned

but it seems its not enough

[hard cypress]

@manic token makes sense, so was the plan to remove that for this season or something

[hot star]

I love gauntlet scens

😍

[small flicker]

^^

[inland schooner]

gauntlet haters

[raven ivy]

Air n gp so good

[lone sparrow]

no because im astra complete

[inland schooner]

honestly the best argument i've seen so far

[woven umbra]

Just reset everything

Except for yams

[urban pumice]

there should definitely be a "former astra complete" role

[obtuse zenith]

haven't seen yams type here in a while

[low nebula]

sus

[lost junco]

Astra Complete role looks dope

[solid spindle]

according to the announcement ranks will be resetted some day

[lost basin]

nah

[solid spindle]

sure yes equals 10x now

[inland schooner]

yams vote counts x500

[solid spindle]

he can keep his name as exchange

[lost basin]

@lone sparrow zepuuu has allowed you to keep your name

[raven ivy]

Yeah i think yamz should get a role for being the first person to „complete“ the VT benches.

Im sure it will happen again but he was the first

@simple scroll thoughts?

[lost junco]

nah

celeetail complete inc

[woven umbra]

not sure if it will happen again tbh

[raven ivy]

If VT stays operating for the near future it would only make sense as knowledge and interest grows and more ppl will take the challenge

[obtuse zenith]

takes a lot of commitment

[woven umbra]

only 2 people i can think of right now that can do it, lorys and matty

[raven ivy]

Correct but there are also a lot of ppl with a lot of time

[lone sparrow]

celestial complete way too hard unless u just do it at start of reset

pgti 1 tricks, static mains

b180t/b180 is really pushed

[woven umbra]

pasu too

[lone sparrow]

someone probably could but mental trauma not worth

[raven ivy]

[lone sparrow]

scucchi could probably

[raven ivy]

Bit of mental trauma never hurts

[obtuse zenith]

it's so excessive that it's pointless

[woven umbra]

ah ye true

ardd too

[lone sparrow]

mbm

[obtuse zenith]

idk if there's any benefit to reaching celestial complete

[woven umbra]

depends what kind of pasu there is

[lone sparrow]

there's no benefit to any of it

[solid spindle]

will you give me 10 years of free time and enough food to take the aim challenge?

[obtuse zenith]

i mean its a nice way to measure mouse control skill but at the point of celestial complete it becomes over the top

[solid spindle]

benefit:
you post the scores in your Steam profile and hop on a server and they insta quit

[obtuse zenith]

kapp

[lost basin]

so no benefits

[obtuse zenith]

@lone sparrow unrelated but do you have a good switching playlist

that's difficult

[lost junco]

b180t, psalm and smoothbot ts giving me hard time tbh and if u do pls send it here

[lone sparrow]

no i only play benchmarks for switching

mostly kinTS cuz its cool B)

[obtuse zenith]

oh ok

[dire valley]

Is it even possible in the first place

[lost junco]

do basically all top rank players just grind benchmarks?

[obtuse zenith]

with enough time ig

[dire valley]

I don't think anyone would put in that much effort just to get celestial complete

[obtuse zenith]

yeah

maybe if there was an incentive

[dire valley]

I highly doubt there would be anyone going for it even if there're some incentives though, you literally need to put your life into aim training

You need to be #1 tracker #1 clicker #1 switcher just to be celestial complete lmao

[solid spindle]

let's go

https://twitter.com/zepuuu/status/1415648170873327618?s=20&t=vnPKStbbonIxi6mdwBaKuw

Zepuuu (@zepuuu)

“@VoltaicHQ I'll see you there ;) https://t.co/YQuRg5aRmX“

Twitter · Jul 15, 2021, 12:23 PM

[lost basin]

dude congrats i cant believe you hit astra

[solid spindle]

this will be

[gleaming pagoda]

Do you think clover could do it?

[woven umbra]

Maybe

[gleaming pagoda]

clover so cracked iceland aim

[woven umbra]

Yes

[gleaming pagoda]

[gleaming pagoda]

ok snow 14 year old caster

[lost basin]

he retired

[manic token]

Juicer

[woven umbra]

Ye

[lost basin]

me

[small flicker]

Ah yes, lorys, matty, juicer, and ploob