reallyy struggling with tension management

[trim shale]

not an expert on tension management, but i think a decent place to start after watching those videos on the concept of tension management, is to start with just trying to notice it instead of necessarily jumping straight to manually controlling it

I.e. being aware when you feel yourself approaching lockout, or noticing that youre tensing way too much at certain times, and trying to notice which muscle groups youre tensing specifically and trying to reel those moments in

generally if you understand taht you should be incorporating different amounts of tension in different muscle groups, but not overdoing it, and just start paying attention to it, you will sort the details out over time with noticing when you have too much or not enough. For more concrete advice matty's speed matching vid can help with understanding if you have too much or too little on tracking, and viscose's vid has a good tip about using tension to start flicks not to stop them, so you can have a relaxed landing

[whole bay]

alright ill rewatch the speed matching vid since its been a while, thank you for your help!

viscose's flick tips kinda confuse me and i for the love of god cannot figure out what method i use for flicks and how to apply what she does. my flicks just dont really feel like flicks and if i try to make them feel flicky i use too much tension and overflick

[trim shale]

the gist of it is try to make the flick fast but with a "soft" landing

like you want to give the flick just enough gas to reach your destination without having to slam on the brakes when you get there

because if you slam on the brakes youll be too tense to transition to a smooth micro-correction

I think the easiest way to visualize it is doing an arm flick and then using your wrist or fingers for the microcorrection, and making sure your wrist/fingers dont tense during the arm flick so they can immediately take over while the arm recovers from the boost in tension.

Building speed without overflicking or too much tension will also just take practice though, its a process. Just something to keep in the back of your mind while practicing static

[whole bay]

Hmmm solid visualization tip ill give that a try!

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this is trying to use my arm for the flick, feels off and weird. somethings gotta be wrong

in this video matty has only like 50% of his arm on the desk/pad, is this key in these situations?i thought that would give him less stability/accuracy or am i wrong

my arm just feels STUCK on my desk even with sleeve

[whole bay]

how do people move their arm across their pad so easily i dont get it

[frail pollen]

Might be posture issue https://youtu.be/dxV-yImHXSw?si=O5QZ9q2Yw3dtDfm3 Also if that’s an artisan zero most arm sleeves don’t work well with it

[trim shale]

also could be pressing down too much on the mouse/pad

can apply grip tension towards the mouse from the sides instead of pressing it into the pad

[whole bay]

sleeve feels better than no sleeve due to my arm sticking to my desk easily even when washed and my grip is pretty relaxed

[whole bay]

Ordered a kibu sleeve and i also have a artisan zero black and raiden coming in at some point. I hope the black zero + sleeve will create less friction

[whole bay]

I followed all the posture videos i could find but ANY connection with the desk and my arm creates too much friction to move well. If i put the pad under my arm its easier but cant move up vertically because no more space. Shoulders neutral, just outside shoulder with and 90 degree angle of my elbow and knees

[frail pollen]

When you say “put the pad under my arm” do you mean pull the pad closer to the edge of the desk? If it works then is it possible to push your chair in closer to the desk? It might otherwise just be that the orange zero is just incompatible with your arm which is unlucky. The black zero I’ve heard does have a less harsh texture and the raider for sure is smoother

[whole bay]

yep pulling it closer to the edge. also i am sitting against the desk with my belly. i heard blacdk zero was less harsh so thats why i got black instead of orange and for the sakes of it the sleeve which dpeople say is more compatible

[whole bay]

got my raiden and artisan zero soft black in!! black moves a little easier then orange but raiden feels SUPER smooth and easy to move my arm around

if my arm would glide as easily on the zero as it does on the raiden my scores would be 20x better

[frail pollen]

Good to hear, unlucky with the zero

[whole bay]

yeah im still gonna use the zero for kovaaks and valo tho, ill use raiden for ow and such games

[whole bay]

is it unfair and dumb to use my raiden for tracking scens?

[frail pollen]

Nah, people change peripherals all the time. I think MattyOW has multiple of the same mice with different skates