Hard Stuck Bronze, What Do I Do?

[twin bough]

I am having issues improving, what scenerios should I do?

[fiery prawn]

Play the game more

[sonic harness]

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[torpid atlas]

Make an attempt at performing proper technique and focus on that when playing. Your scores will go up

[hybrid mauve]

I'm in the same boat as OP... I've already had 50 hours on Kovaaks and I've seen no improvements... when you say, play the game more, it doesn't really help me understand what I'm doing wrong to not improve.

In terms of proper technique, I've looked at a bunch of guides, done a bunch of benchmarks, and done VDIM and other improvement playlists, and I've not seen any return when I come back to the benchmarks. It feels really frustrating to be stuck at the bottom even after so much time.

[frail ferry]

Hey man I've had that same mindset. Going through guides, doing routines for a hundred hour and not improving benchmark, hardstuck silver in kovaak S4. I've seen many people spent less effort and time but achieve better benchmarks than me.

Until I changed the way that I approach aim training. I stopped forcing myself to hit new benchmark records, stopped learning techniques cuz it's overwhelming (Not saying it's not useful, but does help a bit), stopped forcing myself to complete a whole VDIM.

Cause at the end of the day aiming is not a skill you can improve really quickly, I started splitting VDIM into 3 days (Scenarios) each routine being 25-35 minutes then I would go play FPS games I want and without noticing, I slowly notice my benchmark improving day by day slowly and getting more comfortable with the scenarios.

On the side: I'm now Gold, omw to Plat, ik I'm ass andon't got that talent but I'm happy I'm slowly improving. Just wanted to share my mentality

[fiery prawn]

Only correction here is to learn the basics for all the techniques when starting out, but take it one scenario at a time, don't try to learn it all at once. Also you can shoot for a high score every time, but you also should just focus your technique again too, it depends on the stage you are in for a bench

[round geyser]

then you're not applying what you learn

[hybrid mauve]

Thank you for the amazing reply! I really appreciate it, that's definitely a good thing to keep in mind. When there are days you don't hit any new benchmark records or days where your scores are just down, what do you do? Because on those days I feel super demotivated and idrk what to do

[frail ferry]

There could be a lot of factors for not hitting new benchmarks, maybe you’re not in mood that day, lack of sleep, anxiety, physical pain, etc. Just keep in mind that not hitting benchmarks doesn’t mean you’re not improving

I would still finish the routine and maybe the next day I hit new benchmarks because I feel better on that day. Or the science behind this is you’re still developing muscle memory

I could go to gym do my workout, but I don’t feel getting bigger, maybe it’s because your muscles are still healing/developing

[round geyser]

but even if u dont hit a new hs u should probably be hammering a certain weakness of yours in that scenario, so maybe you understand it a bit better(also majority of ur gains will happen in sleep!!)

[lime saddle]

Most of/ if not all of the videos I see being reviewed at the novice level are missing technique and I highly suggest posting your videos under vod review. A lot of the people who commented in this session are helping lots of people with very good results. Take for example The Heavenly Demon's Disciple's Pasu score I imagine if he posts his video he would be having issues with target reading and mouse positioning more than the ability to hit gold.

[robust spire]

I'm like 160+ hours, and I still only have some things in gold, and everything else lower. I think for cases where people improve really fast, I think like, part of that is they already have a decent base level of skill in the particular techniques, and it's more like learning the scenarios themselves. So once they properly learn the specific scenarios, they can increase them fast.

To me, I kinda view it like, "catching up" to your actual real level. It's really fast to catch up to your actual real level, especially if you had something bottlenecking you, and then you figure out that bottleneck / improve on it. Then you can have a burst of growth / progress.

But I think like, once you actually reach your actual real level, it gets way harder to improve from there. It takes much longer, cause now you are basically building up skill from scratch again (there is no "catchup" mechanics at this point). Like a common scenario I see is with Static Clicking, a LOT of people (myself included) do not have any sort of foundation in static clicking, so they gotta learn it from scratch, so it takes way longer than say, learning tracking (like say a person actually has a lot of experience with tracking in general ingame cause they played thousands of hours of games, but stuff was bottlenecking the tracking, like say, bad posture, but they never learned much about flicks ingame, so they have to start from scratch with that).

[robust spire]

I dunno about others, but like, for the skills where you are actually at your real level, and basically learning it from scratch, the improvement is much slower. Like say for me, I can be spending 2-5 hours (200-300x runs) only to get an improvement of like +2 pts on a clicking score (these runs can be spread across multiple days).

Thing is, I'll look at my avg scores, and usually, I'll see that even if I'm not hitting a new PB, my avg is going up bit by bit, which means I'm getting more consistent (even if I'm not hitting a new PB). I'll notice like say, my flicks are getting a bit more accurate over time. Or my control of the micros after a flick is a bit more consistent. Or say, in dynamic clicking, my ability to read the "random" bot movements is getting a bit easier at times (not fully consistent, but a bit easier to read the movements and follow them over time). Small things like those do not actually necessarily lead to a PB each time, but they do stack up to make you more and more consistent over time, so your avg can get a bit higher and higher each time, until they all eventually stack together in a single run so that you then hit a new PB.

Another part is, sometimes I'll try for many hours, not get anywhere near a new PB, so I stop for the day and rest. Sleep is really important. Most actual learning / improvement occurs during sleep. Usually, if the previous day I couldn't hit a new PB but my avg was getting more consistently higher bit by bit (closer and closer to the current PB), I can probably hit a PB the next day, or the day after by sleeping on it, then just continuing on.

[robust spire]

Like I think it's important to look at the things you did actually improve on and acknowledge them (no matter how small they are), cause I think it helps reinforce / cement them more effectively. Cause then you can do stuff like consciously play around with them, try new things with them, focus on them in specific, etc etc, which can lead to further growth as well.

For instance, wow, my flick landed exactly on the dot, wow, I did it multiple times in a row. Maybe I just like, slow down, add more delay in the hit confirm / prep phase, and focus more on quality flicks this particular run, rather than on the score. See if I can up my accuracy / consistency more.

Or wow, my control / tension management is pretty smooth in this run, maybe I more focus on the tension itself this run (or next few runs), try to actively be more aware / conscious of it this run and play around with it, and not focus on score. Like try to consciously reinforce it more, put more awareness into it to better feel / understand it (IE play around with the tension and acknowledge what it feels like, what certain levels of tension result in, etc etc).

Or wow, I'm finally able to like actually see the bot movements and actually track them after the flick (like say in dynamic pokeball scenarios). Maybe I more focus on just reading the bots for the next few runs, rather than just focus on raw score (IE, don't focus on everything as a whole at once, just focus on the one aspect for these runs). Etc etc