(Featuring the shittiest run of aether you've ever seen)
((my frames got cut in half once I opened OBS))
https://streamable.com/rihw2q
#Aether Intermediate
sour palm
topaz mountain
You seem really overstimulated in general
I don’t think you are really reacting to directional changes like the scenario intends at least for bot 1
Can you submit a run of Aether bot one?
Try to not predict changes in direction at all
Occasionally overshooting a short strafe happens and is normal; you have a shakiness to your crosshair placement that tells me you are simply overwhelmed by what you see
Please use 28cm as a sens for this exercise we are doing rn
sour palm
28????
topaz mountain
You can go back to your usual one afterwards
Ya 28 should be fine
Perfectly acceptable sensitivity for these kinds of tasks
I also did not specify adequately; submit a recording of Aether novice 1.
sour palm
You seem really overstimulated in general
also wdym by ovestimulated
topaz mountain
Tense, shaky
sour palm
yeah cause its like 3 times as fast as the novice one
keep in mind this was at a sense i dont play on
and half my usual framerate
topaz mountain
Hmm
You still seem overly sensitive
Bring me a run of one of these
VT Aether entry s5 bot 1
Or I believe Vt Aether novice s5 gentle
You’re just really freaking out a lot and not drawing straight smooth lines
Try to only ever move in straight smooth lines
Avoid using the wrist too much here
Your arm should do most of the work
sour palm
this one?
topaz mountain
👍
sour palm
can i do it on 40
sour palm
i got 3140
topaz mountain
The footage is what I want not the score I’m afraid
sour palm
i know the vod is processing right now
topaz mountain
Ok word just checking lol
sour palm
sometimes I think im going mad
in both definitions of the word
@topaz mountain https://streamable.com/zagt2v
sour palm
how can you tell?
topaz mountain
Because you’re only changing directions when the bot does finally
This is the first video you’ve sent where it looks right
Sounds weird to say but this is a common issue for intermediate players
Just not playing correctly
You finally committed to just only changing direction when the bot did this time
sour palm
Sounds weird to say but this is a common issue for intermediate players
i wouldnt really count myself as intermediate lmao
topaz mountain
You did submit a intermediate VOD.
sour palm
i have 0 plat scores
topaz mountain
You don’t have to; intermediate is considered gold complete or higher
As long as you are gold in the previous scenario, intermediate is a fine label to identify yourself as
sour palm
im gold complete
topaz mountain
So yes you’re intermediate
sour palm
topaz mountain
We didn’t talk abt 2 or 3 but 1 looks better
Good for now
2 and 3 need to be approached differently but make a different VOD channel for that
Warm up the novice variant of bot 1 u til you feel like you don’t predict before you touch intermediate on your reactive days
sour palm
bruh
topaz mountain
Bot 3 and bot 2 require different methodologies but it’s the same
sour palm
i gotta warm up for training bruh
im not gonna hit diamond at this rate
sour palm
the whole reason im trying to get gm was to trash streamers in shooters
now i gotta train for my training
topaz mountain
The benchmark isnt good training if you’re not doing it with correct form
You don’t go into the gym and try to dead lift 400 pounds without working up with some warm-up weights to make sure that you are performing everything correctly yes?
I trust that the concept of using lighter working weights to get limber and emphasize correct technique before you move on to workouts that strain you is a intuitive and relatable concept
sour palm
I already know proper deadlift form
topaz mountain
Even if you know the proper form, you still warm up with a lighter weight before you do your PB attempts
Reactive tracking is one of the most technical scenario categories; you need to be getting in adequate volume with correct technique before you play the most challenging variance on your list for the day
sour palm
i feel like ground plaza is by best shot to get a plat score
topaz mountain
runs need to be like this
where your lines are smooth and you only change directions when the bot does
if you can't put up novice bot 1 runs where your lines are clean and controlled intermediate will be a miserable grind you will hate
sour palm
that sums up intermediate on all categories for me pretty much
topaz mountain
yes
the transition from gold to plat is mostly about achieving a minimum standard for your form.
you should be playing novice and novice hard variants to ensure you are generating correct technique
if you sit down and get volume of novice and novice hard with great form, eventually you will be able to crush platinum easily
you can absolutely just grind intermediate until plat falls out
but what then?
then you need diamond.
and you still have to fix your form problems
unless you miserably grind diamond.
but then what?
then you need jade.
and you still have to fix your form problems.
sour palm
are you european
topaz mountain
no
sour palm
k
sour palm
if you sit down and get volume of novice and novice hard with great form, eventu...
i didnt think plat would be this hard coming from gold
i thought i had (mostly) correct technique
topaz mountain
aether is a really complex bot that takes a while to learn; just focus on learning each bot one at a time with good form and you will have no issues getting all the way to master with nothing other than hours played
uh no your technique looks very shaky and like you're overly responsive to what the bot might do vs. what it does
watch my run again and pay attention to how smooth my tracks are and how I only ever change direction in response to the bot
i dont have to worry about what it might do
i just react to what it does
its not because of some massive skill gaps or anything
i didn't try particularly hard to generate that run
i could score a lot more
it was just to demonstrate what all runs should look like
smooth lines and reactive strafe changes
sour palm
does this also apply to ground plaza
topaz mountain
yes although those bots also have nuance that requires learning
sour palm
i hate the 3rd one
topaz mountain
for what aether?
bot 2 aether is pretty easy
it will do very short strafes up and down
and then do short and medium strafes left and right
so use the fingers to match the little wiggles
and then just track the lefts and rights
if it goes somewhere else, react to that and follow it
sour palm
for what aether?
ground plaza
sour palm
topaz mountain
ok yeah
sour palm
i thought they were the same my bad
topaz mountain
naw bot 3 is ez
well
ground is based on plaza.
they're interchangeable in terms of what the bots are
but ground is the s5 name.
ground is 3 bots from older plaza style gauntlet scenarios
bot 3 is the thinnest of the three
sour palm
is this edge tracking
topaz mountain
yes
sour palm
also fingers?
topaz mountain
it's useful for bots that have consistent short strafes such as these
yes fingers
sour palm
ive never used my fingers for aiming
topaz mountain
ok well
it's a finger bot
so if you wanna score well
recommend usin em
aether is 100% a ftip kinda deal imo
its not a palm grip
you dont have to hold it strict ftip but your grip should let you use the fingers for Y axis adjustments
bot 3 ground is the thinnest and will obliterate you if you waste tension doing bots 1 and 2
all that jittery shaking you're doing?
will make bot 3 consistently terrible
you need to learn how to do aether and ground with less tension
means higher sens and cleaner lines
simple as
not optional
this category does not scale with high tension
especially s5
where it's designed to punish you for it
sour palm
damn
topaz mountain
aether 3
so ez
just a small bot with very gentle evasion
be smooth
but since its small if u are shaky from high tension u are screwed
there's a reason i'm telling you to play on 28cm and draw straight lines
and its not because i Just personally enjoy making people miserable and out of their comfort zone
its because your technique sucks and you're going to have to fix it eventually
might as well be now
with me showing you the exercises and form
fix it by doing adequate volume on the novice scenarios to really just make sure you're able to keep up without using a lot of tension
and you'll find bot 3 gets a lot easier
topaz mountain
well for one you gotta stop freaking out when it comes to your visual processing
you're super tense because you think the bot might do a lot
comes from being uncomfortable reading bot behavior
turn the scenario
and just watch the bot move around
if you watch it for a bit eventually you'll understand better about what it likes to do
and that lack of surprise translates to better confidence and smoother lines
you dont need to grip the mouse at all
the arm should do most of the line drawing
if you're a wrist aimer you are generally going to have a bad time for learning reactive
sour palm
im an arm person
topaz mountain
for the basic fundies, your arm should do all the lines and the wrist sparingly* handles direction changes
sour palm
and generally i hate static
topaz mountain
sorry
wrong word
ground 1
notice smooth lines without shaking and responsive, controlled direction changes that don't guess or predict
sour palm
(500 more points than me in bot 1)
topaz mountain
bot 2
notice smooth, low tension lines without shaking, and responsive, controlled direction changes that don't guess or predict
sour palm
topaz mountain
bot 3
this bot is thin, but also has gentle acceleration for direction changes
so as long as you have tension left in the tank to be smooth you can score well on this one
@hearty gale
your novice bot variants aren't done right
bot 2 and 1 is just the novice scenario.
bot 3 probably the same but I didn't check for sure
sour palm
getting closer
topaz mountain
@sour palm do you have any questions about the basic properties of the bots
or what I'm telling you to focus on when it comes to form guidelines for these bots
if you pb today on intermediate or not, doesnt matter; i just want you to understand what 'correct' looks like and start training on the novice bot variants so you can get practice doing it right
sour palm
if you pb today on intermediate or not, doesnt matter; i just want you to unders...
i understand completely
smooth, speed matching lines
and only change directions when the bot does
dont predict
sour palm
if you pb today on intermediate or not, doesnt matter; i just want you to unders...
(also i just did pb)
topaz mountain
dont predict
I think at first it feels very tempting to cheat
Hopefully watching me do novice variants with very clean technique that achieves high scores demonstrates how reliable it is
sour palm
cheat??
topaz mountain
Ya sleep on it and spend the next few days playing novice at 28-31cm with a goal of really clean lines and you’ll hit diamond
It isn’t hard
I appreciate you sitting here and letting me drag you through increasingly beginner exercises
hearty gale
bot 2 and 1 is just the novice scenario.
what do u mean by this?
like both of them are the same bot?
topaz mountain
what do u mean by this?
Bot 2 is just bot 1-2-3
sour palm
I appreciate you sitting here and letting me drag you through increasingly begin...
well it did work
hearty gale
😭 i wish i knew about that earlier
crystal peak
lmao
topaz mountain
😭 i wish i knew about that earlier
Pretty sure all of the novice ones are jacked up
And yeah I’m the only one that uses them
Because new aimers just grind the bench and don’t play the variants
I use the bot novice variants for teaching
sour palm
novice on 30 cm
sour palm
hey i know that guy
@topaz mountain I will come back tomorrow with either static clicking or some switching scenario
im not sure yet
hearty gale
hey i know that guy
that is an imposter
sour palm
so there's an imposter among us?
hearty gale
😭 i wish i knew about that earlier
it is fixed now
i am hoping that was the only one
topaz mountain
was just bot 2
Thanks gamer
sour palm
topaz mountain
They’re not that different
Difficulties always are rooted in the same problem; people don’t understand correct technique and the harder size and speed owns them
If you learn the right way to do it then they really aren’t that separate
sour palm
guess I'm only learning the right way now
bot 2 is still kinda weird
i wanted to see if I could get 3500
topaz mountain
guess I'm only learning the right way now
For this level yeah
It will change again for advanced
sour palm
how exactly?
topaz mountain
Understanding just has to change
It’s the same fundies
But more detailed optimizations
topaz mountain
But those optimizations need to
Be on a bedrock of good habits
30cm is 👍 for all reactive this season
It’s just scary at first because it feels shaky
Once you stop freaking out it’s chill
And you enjoy how much less work it is
sour palm
holy shit
sour palm
its getting hard now lmao
sour palm
topaz mountain
Ez
topaz mountain
Good advice
sour palm
topaz mountain
Huge…