#Looking for aim guides, helpers who can gauge what skills I'm lacking and how I should improve them.

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potent scarab
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or in weird angles

bleak bluff
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Thats bad

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Ur just wasting time

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In fps games are u slowly gonna move ur mouse to them?

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No ur gonna flick

potent scarab
bleak bluff
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I already sent him the minigod one, he just never saw it.

potent scarab
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to fully know how far Im moving my mouse

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/crosshair

bleak bluff
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Also please watch the fludity vid by matty

potent scarab
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yes but I overflick like by a mile

bleak bluff
potent scarab
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thats why sometimes I do controlled flick

bleak bluff
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This is smth you have to fic

potent scarab
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slow flick

bleak bluff
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Fix

potent scarab
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wait how

bleak bluff
# potent scarab slow flick

U arent slow flicking, ur moving ur crossheir slowly to the target. Slow flicking is something completely different.

potent scarab
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how do you know where your flick will land if you suddenly do a jerk on the wrist

bleak bluff
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My guy mattyow tells u what the mistake is in his first static dots video i sent u that u already watched.

potent scarab
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im watching

bleak bluff
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Alr

bleak bluff
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Hes saying it should be apart of ur fps routine but not be the main focus. Aimming is only one piece of the puzzle.

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That doesnt apply to me much since aim training is my main game

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I only play fps games occasionally

potent scarab
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bro I also noticed something

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my mouse dpi changes every time I close hyperX Ingenuinity app

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the mouse app

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I set my dpi to 1600

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but as soon as I close the app it goes back to default 3200

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wtf

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I've been forced to play at 3200 dpi ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

bleak bluff
potent scarab
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wait I think if I change this motion bar I might be able to adjust dpi

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saw a vid on yt

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how to change mouse dpi

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but it does not say how much dpi Im increasing or decreasing bruh

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TS GAE

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like how vague can you be

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there is 11 bars

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I'm at 6

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erm

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which bar is 1600 dpi

potent scarab
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bro ON GOD the mouse dpi feels different as soon as I close the mouse app

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like it literally goes back to 3200 dpi

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idk why ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I notice this because as soon as I open the mouse app, my mouse becomes slow af

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coz in the mouse app, its set to 1600 dpi

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how do I fix this problem, so that my mouse dpi stays the same

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after I close the app

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coz I really don't want to have my mouse app open in the background bruh, there ain't no ram for that

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wait

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WAIT

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OHH MY GOD IM STOOOOOBIIIIDDDD

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ohh ffs I don't want to talk about this

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Im soo ashamed

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I never clicked this button bro ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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ohh my god Im actually fumbling

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I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS PROBLEM FOR MONTHS AND MAYBE A YEAR NOW

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wtf

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bro my mouse sensitivity actually stays at 1600 dpi now ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I'm crying

potent scarab
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alright Im gonna use these presets

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I deleted 800 dpi and 2400 dpi coz I dont know why I'd need them

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I need 3200 dpi for a space game that I play that requires a lot of clicking and precise ones

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so I'll keep that

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and my default would be 1600 dpi, hopefully, it feels soo frikkin slow though I'm almost tempted not to use it

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also I didn't even realize until now that my mouse button lights up the color when I changed the DPI from the mouse buttons

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it lights up red and green as I have set it

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ts soo good

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now I know what dpi Im in

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without ever opening the mouse app at all

potent scarab
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gah dayum, I just washed my mousepad soaked with detergent soap water and a lot of dirt came out but that's what we like to see ain't it ๐Ÿ˜‹

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my flicks are gonna be CRISPY now hehe

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hell yeah

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did a little bit of rubbing with my handy toothbrush to clean too

potent scarab
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alright so check this out guys, I've improved a little bit than last time (it was horrendous last time

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I'll post the notes I wrote down while watching the replay

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  • I constantly keep running out of Mousepad ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

  • I lack in target acquisition, like I freeze at the enemy shooting at me, instead of my crosshair on top of them, it just stays around them, maybe I need to work on micro-adjustment? why does this happen SOMETIMES, and sometimes its a perfect flick and track??? I don't get this

  • I lack skill in tracking (duh, I suck at it as always), always falling behind (perhaps because of the low sens so Im afraid of moving too far and out of the mousepad maybe? or perhaps it's something else?, maybe my arm is too sticky to the table)

  • my aiming feels jagged, instead of smooth and fluid

  • I am noticing some improvements in my flicks, but it is still random and unpredictable, I can't predict or know where my flicks will land tbh, I just pray it does

  • my crosshair placement is bad, so I have to adjust a lot more instead of it handed to me if I had pre-aimed or placed my crosshair in an advantageous position, this might be why I win some fights flawless and lose some horribly?

  • I'm noticing, yet again a slow flick/tracking (like I start following too early instead of flicking and acquiring the target and THEN tracking) instead of instant flick, but I don't know how to tension manage yet so I can't improve on this until I know how to tension manage properly

  • I have the issue of predicting soo much that I lead too far from the target, thus missing every shot, like if the target moves left, I move in front of it and trail in front of it instead of ON the target

  • also I keep noticing that I make mistakes of not fully killing the target and moving off, and then realize I haven't killed it, panic and try to go back and kill it....

  • I'm flicking first nicely but when I switch target, I don't flick but go to them slowly... why is this happening, perhaps I need to train in stuff like switch dots?

  • moving too much and disrupting my flow... if there was even any

  • I need to manage tension better

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  • I feel inconsistency in every aspect? why? is it because I haven't practiced long enough?

  • poor choice of target switching, I flick to opponents that are not even looking at me and avoid/miss the one who is actually shooting at me next to him... bad reading skills perhaps?

  • my aim feels all over the place

  • I don't confirm kill and end up not shooting and dying to them (hilarious, like come on dude really?)

  • there are some good flicks and good tracking, which means I have it in me, I just need to hone the skill, be better than yesterday and focus on improving like how I got to here!

  • playing intense high tactical with a lot of movement on a slow sensitivity is proving to be difficult but this is all its all about isn't it? being able to perform better in high tense/all scenarios, this is why I'm training after all

  • a lot better flicks than previous CM vod, I can't tell, low sens 1W6TS has helped me soo much it's literally visible! (no self glaze I promise)

  • need better micro flick/shot/adjustment, what scenario's should I play to make it better I wonder? I need to use my fingers and wrist a lot more to get the feel for it

  • 7:18 | am I locking up without knowing? too much tension on my muscle groups perhaps, how do I tension manage again?

  • 7:49 | good tracking, I need this level of tracking

  • 8:02 | doing the circle motion again, because Im trying to predict where they will move and not focus on them

  • 9:16 | sliding enemies always freaks me out...

  • I need to grind target switching so I know how to flick from one target to another consistently

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...

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erm might a little too long ehh xD

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but I wrote down what I felt when I rewatched it, you guys can skip it if you don't want to read all that

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I should also include timestamps I think, next time when I have improved substantially, I'll do that

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I found out I need to practice target switching REAL BAD

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coz I keep "dragging" or slow flicking/tracking my mouse from one target to another like what is THAT

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I need a swift flick and start tracking, but tbh when Im in those high stress situations, I rarely have time to think or even do anything about it, I just want to kill the other target as soon as possible and my flick training still goes out of the window in those situations and my habits come back again, it's because my flick training that I've been doing, has NOT yet become a true habit of mine, so I have to consciously think of "do large flick with arm, alright done that now lets do micro adjustment to the target and confirm its on target then we shoot alright?"

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how do I turn my training into habits that I use subconciously without actively thinking about it? coz I gotta think about tension management and I also gotta think about distance between targets and how much to flick and then I also have to think about micro adjusting, all actively, it gets overwhelming and at some point, my brain says fok it and goes back to grab the old habits

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but as you saw if you've watched the vod, I forcefully tried to actively think about each of my movement, that's why some flicks and tracking were actually good

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but very inconsistent overall

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when Im laid back a little, like one or two targets in front of me and they are not shooting at me, I can finally use my training on that, you would notice my good flicks are always on those less intense situations

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but in those high intense situations, my mind goes blank and autopilot takes over ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ, idk what to do tbh, I'm kinda lost...

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but enough yapping, it's almost 3 am here, Imma go sleep, night boiz, hopefully I'll see some advice when I wake up (plz ๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm really trying hard to improve my aim)

wheat spire
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The more you practise, the better you get simple as

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Some people learn faster some people learn slower and that's OK as long as you are still learning

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In terms of how to turn it subconscious? Probably the exact same thing because the aim trainer is also a habit builder eww 4bk quote

potent scarab
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bro a video of fluidity that mr td gave me talked about flick consciousness or something, like they know where they are flicking and will and exactly and their move is always fluid, I couldn't even understand that part bruh

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wth is a flick consciousness ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I really gtg sleep though, will talk tmr ๐Ÿค—

wheat spire
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Right so when you're flicking you don't want to just move your arm quickly in the rough direction of the target obviously

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If you want to land on the target you need to know where you target is and where your crosshair is, then your mind will need a bit to process then your flick will be accurate and controlled instead of reactive and random

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Fluidity is referring to not completely stopping on targets when you kill them but rather carrying that momentum into the next flick

potent scarab
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IM GETTING CONSISTENT IN FLICKING NOW

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wait no thats not really consistent tbh

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it be jumping up and down

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I just woke up ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent scarab
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bro how do I turn off recommended tasks man

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at least for playlists

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coz I finish 10 rounds of 1w6ts and when I click next quickly I end up in a new scenario lol

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@wheat spire also, should I just keep playing 1w6ts? I've been doing that for a couple of days now

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idk what else to do

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also how do I get clean lines

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I noticed my lines are HORRENDOUS

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like they are all over the place

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this is why I keep overflick or flick perfect next to the target....

wheat spire
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Play pokeball scenarios to work on it

potent scarab
wheat spire
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You don't need to stop it using your hand just let friction do it

wheat spire
potent scarab
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bro IVE HIT A NEW SCORE!!!!

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or wait nvrm

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but still, the accuracy is insane

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I played like 2 rounds of smoothbot thing and now look at this

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Im getting cleaner lines now, and that is helping me micro-flick better

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ohh hell yeah

wheat spire
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No dragging mouse, force yourself to flick

potent scarab
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because my arm has not performed that way before, because as I said, my arm always were stuck on the rug and I could never truly move it without it absolutely sticking to it

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so flicking downwards was never an option

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this is true because you can see my left and right flicks being crispy, because I could then use my wrist to aid the flick

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if my arm can't move because its stuck

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I also had my elbow on the table so it was literally just stuck in place

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top flicks are good too since I could use my biceps to forcefully move my arm up, but that usually led to overflicking because it became stuck and unstuck in a large motion before my arm becoming stuck again

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it was a game of stickiness instead of a fluid flick

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now that aftter removing my elbow off the desk, I can now actually use my forearm to flick, while also using plastic bag to reduce friction, I can truly flick for the first time in my life

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I have no idea how I can get rid of the old habits though, they have been ingrained in me for years ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent scarab
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@wheat spireI have a question

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so when Im flicking

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I just realized this now

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when Im flicking, do I focus on the next target with my eyes or use my peripheral vision to look at it and then move my mouse?

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coz idk if my peripheral vision is as accurate

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but when Im moving with my main flick, it becomes a blurr but I can focus on the target afterwards and I feel like this gets me cleaner lines?

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because if I unfocus and use my peripheral view to figure out where my target is and then flick to that, usually my brain is doing guess work

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WAIT THIS JUST CLICKED

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maybe this is why IVE BEEN MISSING MY SHOTS

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wait hold up

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WAIT WAIT WAIT

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holy shit new tech just dropped

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but I still need to know to confirm this

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do I look at the next target before my main flick?

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coz I usually have to focus on my target and use my peripheral vision to check if there are other targets nearby

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but when I go for the main flick, I still use my peripheral view

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and I think this is causing me to have bad flick lines and usually missing the target

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because think about it, this falls under the "guess" work category, where my brain has limited information to go about it and thus acts in randomness, this is true when you are driving a car, I've only driven my bro's car for a little bit but I could see the difference clear as day when I switched from using my peripheral to look at the mirror for oncoming cars and when I actually looked at the mirror with a glance

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with peripheral, you have only the information that the "target" is there, but not exactly where, so when you unfocus from your target and actually focus on that target with no information, now you suddenly know exactly where it is, and you can act on it

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but the issue with this when flicking is, it creates a down time from my first target to the next target

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because I have to unfocus and focus on the next target in my peripheral

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when Im focusing on the next target, I feel like I can actually gauge/check how long I need to flick

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but on a vid I watched sometime ago, someone mentioned that instead of looking at either targets, look at the middle and use your peripheral for quick flicks? I think it was a vid on apex

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where he kept hitting insane flicks

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idk anymore dude ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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but all and all, I know this is helping me incredibly, because I've actually been able to clear low level bots in valorant, 30/30 headshot hits

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and I can actually do mid tier bots to 15/30 for now

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when I never actually thought I could ever do or get there even

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I could not thank you guys enough for this

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for enabling me to achieve this level of mastery, I still have a very long way to go, but I don't mind as long as you guys are with me, helping me along the way ๐Ÿค—

potent scarab
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bro why tf am I making soo many weird movements without even realizing

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do I even know how to micro-flick?

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how do you micro flick/adjust?

potent scarab
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perhaps it's coz I never truly trained them if at all

wheat spire
wheat spire
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potent scarab
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then it would look like decelerated movement?

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like you brake near the target but never truly full stop

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kinda like running the stop sign

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or entering a round about, if you see a car you stop, if you don't, you slowly crawl into it

potent scarab
wheat spire
potent scarab
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holy I've hit a new PR!!!

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250 is my goal now hehe

wheat spire
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Getting to gold is your short term goal here

potent scarab
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I'm still practicing that, its soo difficult to accurately hit since I don't have much time to click and go onto the next target?

bleak bluff
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Bro what is that fov

potent scarab
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bro Im crying, I HAVE ACTUALLY IMPROVED SOO MUCH

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holy shit

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I was hitting fkin one taps on jet flying down coz I knew that arc pathing and shit bro

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this is insane

potent scarab
bleak bluff
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Valorant?

wheat spire
potent scarab
potent scarab
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ohh yeah I forgot to mention, how do I know my sensitivity for any game?

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like atleast the ballpark of it

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I feel like different games have different types of sensitivity

wheat spire
potent scarab
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I dont play overwatch

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and idk whats a mouse sensitivity, also I don't see any FOV

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wait this makes sense I wont lie wtf, I've been doing 0.3 and its working well for me

potent scarab
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where you can apply it to any game?

wheat spire
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NOT SENSITIVITY

potent scarab
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how is 0.357 an fov

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent scarab
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@wheat spirealso guys, I wanna explore the tension management category a little bit

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how does tension management even work, like I don't get the feel for it

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only after a certain amount of time after playing custom gridshot 600 seconds straight just intense shooting at all the dots, do I get tired

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or feel it on my arm

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I hear tension management is essential in good aim and I want to set the foundation

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as of now, I have no idea, absolutely zero, how to manage tension properly

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like how does it even work, I can't really grasp it

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I saw the vid from viscose but it was too vague I think

potent scarab
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she mentions slowing down mid flick

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how do you slow down mid flick

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coz its literally instantaneous

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like couple of miliseconds

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how am I supposed to slow down mid flick or release tension

wheat spire
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You let go of your muscles holding the mouse after you flick

potent scarab
wheat spire
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Flex and relax your forearm repeatedly so you know what it feels like to be relaxed and how to relax quickly

potent scarab
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but when hold onto the mouse, I grip it and even if I grip is lightly, it still bounces on my fingers and hand before stopping

wheat spire
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Bro it's hard to describe

potent scarab
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I've been running my mind all day on ts ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

wheat spire
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I've just adopted a minigodesque technique

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My tech is not optimal tho I'd rather you learn the correct method

potent scarab
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she also says to utilize wrist and fingers with arm to harmonize the movement and have better tools at disposability, I have done that I feel like, I've started working on my arm movement which I could not do before, my wrist is coming along too and my fingers are working too

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but I just can't grasp the tension management

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like how does it apply to flicking, tracking and snapping onto targets from one to another

wheat spire
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Tension management for dummies is don't have too much and relax when you can

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That's it

potent scarab
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she also says larger flicks require more tension managing

wheat spire
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If you don't want to exploit it for better aim you can at least learn to not be sabotaged by poor tension management for now

potent scarab
wheat spire
potent scarab
wheat spire
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I can help you I know exactly what to do its just I don't have the time to learn it

potent scarab
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I have not learnt it so whatever method I learn now, will be the baseline and habit

potent scarab
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wdym by that?

wheat spire
potent scarab
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is it like a huge doc file explaining how to do it?

wheat spire
wheat spire
# potent scarab is it like a huge doc file explaining how to do it?

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potent scarab
wheat spire
potent scarab
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breh, Im not even iron ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent scarab
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but Im gonna watch it again

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wait wait I might have got it

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it's kind of like flexing your biceps

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the more you flex the more muscle fibers you recruit

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so its a game of recruiting muscle fibers

bleak bluff
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Hamzawi, watch minigods flick discovery video.

potent scarab
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scale 2 is like having pretty relaxed muscle fibers engaged, you dont feel your muscles as much engaged if at all, and 4-5 is like having most of the muscle fibers engaged but not 100%, kind of like 50%, you can feel your biceps slightly or even fully

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and 100% scale 8-10 is full muscle fiber recruitment, where everything starts shaking

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and to build this habit I need to actively think about this while doing intense gaming moments like in gridshot 3 target both height and length 3x with 10 minute timer and go for as many dots as possible while managing tension

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I need to keep doing it actively until I don't need to think about it anymore, that's how I build a habit

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Combat master with bots is gonna be soo good for this

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you only have so little time to kill the bots in it, like 3 seconds before they headshot you instantly

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so you are constantly at a high alert

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this trains your nervous system and all that, so when you are in a high stress situation, you know that you've already been in them hundreds of times

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I also think doing lower sens will actually engage this tension management, since I need to move my mouse more thus contributing to managing the distances

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I also need a large frikkin mousepad ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent scarab
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also for tracking, you flick at 5-6 tense or 8-10 if its too far away from your fov/point of view, like at the edge of your screen, then decelerate halfway and prepare to use tension 2-3 for tracking

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I'm gonna practice this now

bleak bluff
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Another attempt to make some content on Youtube. Im not that good at making voice-overs but kinda wanted to share a little story with you guys and possibly help some players with their flick technique as well.

00:00 - Introduction & Context
00:50 - Defining Flick Technique
01:51 - Common Problem with Flicks
03:20 - Overflicking vs Underflicking...

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potent scarab
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GUYS IT WORKING

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IM TENSION MANAGING WTF

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is this how it feels like?????

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I noticed I've been using unnecessary muscle fibers/tension when Im already close to the target, thus making me flick instead of track

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HOLY SHIT

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new update just dropped guys

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I didn't realize I was already doing this though lowkey

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shit I also just found out Im using too much tension when Im in a close quarter battle since Im panicking and Im using scale 8s and 10s

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thus making my aim soo frikkin shaky

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BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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OHH MY GAWD

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IT WORKS!!!!!

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it's literally just flexing your forearm and bicep to control tension

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is that it @wheat spire ?

wheat spire
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Yeah for now

potent scarab
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bro I was frikkin popping offfff

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so I need to use 1-2 tension for long distance, 4-5 for mid distance, not too much, and 8-10 when close range because I have to move my mouse quickly to follow the target going around me

potent scarab
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goddamn I can still feel the tension in my arm as Im typing, I think I used a little too much tension

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but I needed to know how it felt and now I know bro!!!

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this is soo goooood

wheat spire
potent scarab
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bro I think I was literally not using tension as a scale, so when I need to flick harder or when in a close combat, I was doing like 1-2 to move the mouse around, which was good but not good at the same time as I was practically dragging the mouse

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and I didn't have the reaction speed I need to compensate that

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recruiting more muscle fibers has now enabled me to do this

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I dont even know how but I can instantly flick to a target in the game when Im in those intense situations now, and I actively think about calming my arm down after the fight is down/over, its like a machine of sorts that has cooldown

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once the cooldown has gone down and my arm is relaxed, I can instantly use it again

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holy shit bro what is thissssss

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OHH MY GAWD

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is this it? like the idea behind tension management?

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you flex your whole arm for more or unflex/rest when you want more or less tension respectively

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and after a fight, your arm goes into a cooldown if it has used the tension for too long so you need to let it rest

potent scarab
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it kinda helps my arm get heated up/warmed up for aiming though

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and it also increases my tension stamina

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as Im in high tension for literally 10 minutes

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I literally hit like 700k-800 scores on those, and after that, my whole arm just cries in agony but its the good feeling of agony, like after an intense exercise

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my muscle fibers become more in-tune with the aiming movement

wheat spire
potent scarab
wheat spire
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That is how you injure yourseld

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*yourself

potent scarab
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bro how are you supposed to raise your tension bar

wheat spire
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Bro just do some forearm curls

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I'm not joking

potent scarab
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brev wahhhhh

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ngl I actually do that though, with 10kg dumbbells

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so that might be why I'm doing a little better

potent scarab
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alright boiz so I just found another trick where I can actively get some underflicks going

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I just made up in my mind just now on this run

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that whatever distance I have between the target I am at and the next target, I wanna skip that area/zip/cut through that area, this makes it easier for me to focus after fast initial flick because my mind is ready for the micro-adjust

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coz immediately I zip through the area, and get close to the target, I immediately start micro-adjusting

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if I even need to

potent scarab
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I tried some voltaic ranked matched, or benchmarks just now and have been absolutely DEVASTATED

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well damn I just realized that I gave the targets super powers by moving soo much, thus me not being able to process their movements, after I slowed down quite significantly tbh, my score increased slightly

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also I have slower sens

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bro slower sensitivity is such a double handed sword, its soo good for mid and long range, but shits itself as soon as fast reaction is needed or longer distance

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maybe its coz my mousepad, I constantly run out of mousepad

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idk whats the ideal sens is gonna be for me lol

potent scarab
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goddamn I been yapping in here soo much ๐Ÿ˜†

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but I feel kinda stuck tbh, I can't do the benchmarks in any of the novice voltaic BMs

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I suck at them soo much, I don't even think I can hit gold let alone get out of irone

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my aim just sucks, plain and simple

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I've tried my everything though and I'll keep it up for a bit still

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but I feel like I'm stuck, like yeah I've figured out stuff here and there but benchmark's is all that matters to actually prove my improvements as a whole

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idk

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I'll hear y'all's thoughts, Imma go take a nap or even sleep

wheat spire
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Just keep playing

potent scarab
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fellas, IM ABSOLUTELY COOKING

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Just overtook my previous record

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I locked in!!!

potent scarab
potent scarab
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note - last task 13

bleak bluff
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@opal basin

opal basin
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Oh my god

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Are u even open to learning or taking in feedback or suggestions? @potent scarab

bleak bluff
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he probably is but is just too young

potent scarab
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bro I am ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

bleak bluff
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Maybe even younger than td

opal basin
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Then you can't be adamant on a single sens saying it's the best out there

potent scarab
opal basin
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If it were the best sens, you wouldn't be hitting iron scores on it

potent scarab
bleak bluff
opal basin
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There's a reason different sens help you work different muscle groups in ur hand and for clicking 20-25 is not the play unless u have insane mouse control which u clearly don't have

potent scarab
opal basin
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Also, a larger mousepad is required for you to effectively get better at aiming, you can't "make work" every situation

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If you can't comfortably use 60 cm, that's gonna be a problem going forward

opal basin
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People are being helpful doesn't mean you become lazy

potent scarab
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oke man I'll look for it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

wheat spire
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20cm is the like max he can use without constantly resetting

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And 20cm is much higher than the recommended sense for anything

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If he increases sense, he won't be able to control the mouse, if he decreases then he has to constantly reset

bleak bluff
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Yeah we can ignore his sens

wheat spire
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For now at least

round frost
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1400 messages in a VOD review thread is outrageous