road to diamond

[tame fern]

i know its not much but its my first day of actual aim training. im proud of myself for not being below iron on EVERYTHING

want to make it to diamond and if i still like aim training then ill try get to gm

but ill reach diamond in a few months time i reckon

since idk any good methods to train

ill just repeat the benchmark over and over and over again

🔥 🔥

[native cypress]

Hell yeah man, instead of repeating benchmark though i recommend going up to the #resources tab and look for the section labeled “weakness-specific aim resources” to train your weak points and do like a gym split. One day do tracking, one day do flicking etc etc. that’s what I’ve been doing and I started iron like you and am gold already! I believe in you!

[tame fern]

ah i didnt see the resources channel so thanks man ill take your advice. And i appreciate it brother good luck on your journey aswell 💪

[tame fern]

i did the S3 benchmark and i am quite disappointed

im not sure on why im silver on angleshot

and below iron on 95% of the other tasks

[tame fern]

bough kovaaks

atleast im not unranked

on some tasks i feel i do well but then get a poor score, im not sure how im even meant to get to gold tbf

ppl say its easy and i want to believe them

but i feel like for me to get gold id have to do this shi for a year or something

the amount of improving i have to do before reaching gold is crazy

and it seems out of my reach

[tame fern]

switched from 19cm to 28cm

dont get how people play on 40+

my mousepad is fairly big and i run out of space on 28

beat my smoothbot score

by the tiniest bit

17 hours in aimlabs and 5 hours into kovaaks so far

seen a bit of improvement on aimtrainers and games

spoke to someone who had 28 hours into kovaaks and were already diamond

alot of people have to told me that "you progress super fast in the beginning". im starting to think that this doesnt apply to me because 22 hours is a fair amount if u ask me

ik it doesnt compare to the 1000s of hours people put in but surely i improve a little bit in almost a day no?

[tame fern]

LMAO

IM ONLY BETTER THAN 21 PEOPLE AHAHAHAH

am i the worst player in this discord or what 💀 💀

2nd attempt went loads better

[tame fern]

did weakness routine, fundamentals and vdim

from now on ill do the mattyOW method

the score threshold one

because when i do the reps i feel like im on auto pilot

hopped off at around 11:30 but ill start again at around 8pm

maybe 9

[tame fern]

ill hop on to do some weaknesses

[tame fern]

its not looking good

had to make it shitty quality so it uploaded but the fps isnt like that in game

[tame fern]

doing vdim

but have to stop cause my eyes are stinging so bad for some reason

ill carry on after it stops stinging

[tame fern]

yoooo

#287 out of 1396

proud of ts

[tame fern]

gold score in air novice 🎉

[upper raft]

huge pb

[tame fern]

yeah

ill do fundamentals and weakness then ill do benchmark

actually

ill skip fundamental

idk ppl tell me to do less than what i already do and some said to skip fundamental

but others tell me to do it

🤷‍♂️

[upper raft]

let me check what fundamentals are

[tame fern]

i do the iron ones

[upper raft]

honestly you can skip them BUT

explanations of exercices are really good to understand techniques if you didnt watch video or prefer to read

description , how and why was why i felt i was doing good when i played this scenarios but i guess doing vdim is better than fundamentals tbh

[tame fern]

so in a day should i only do vdim and weakness?

because i have alot of time so i could do fundamentals

but if its not worth it then i wont

[upper raft]

for a good start, you should play vdim and FOCUS on the category that his your weakness

like if you're bad at dynamic and good at tracking, there is no point for now to grind tracking one

[tame fern]

yeah

im super bad at dynamic clicking

should prob focus on taht

[upper raft]

always play your worst category even if it's painful, rewards are great at the end

[upper raft]

you're just starting, you will get good in no time, you're already scoring gold score

[tame fern]

for tracking yeah but i think thats because i currently play a game that requires tracking

not much of anything else

so thats why i excel at tracking'

reactive tracking atleast

[upper raft]

play one week of vdim like it's write and pick your worst, it will be so impactful on your main game

[tame fern]

only vdim?

for 1 week

[upper raft]

1 week to have a good view to know in what you're good and what you're bad

and then pick the worst category , work on it to have the results/ rank you want and go next one

[tame fern]

alright

ill do that then

[tame fern]

w progress

that first score was on my old sensitivity then i changed it so it dipped alot

but now its climbing back up

[tame fern]

new scores after re doing benchmark

#1269688001257148426 message these are the old ones

[tiny talon]

Nice u improving

[tame fern]

tysm! Im going to keep working hard to make even more progress, even though its js a small step

progress is progress

POG360

[tiny talon]

Real

[tame fern]

im kinda confused on how i should aim train, currently in the morning i do all of my things being, vdim, weakness routine and similar scenarios but easier to the ones i want to improve so like plaza but slower or something. and idk if doing them all in the morning is a good idea, should i do one in the morning then midday and the last one before i go to bed? or does it not matter

[upper raft]

1h hour for aim training is a good start no matters if its morning or later

aim train till you lost focus, when not focused, quit and call the day

[tame fern]

will do

👍

[tame fern]

aim training rn

but my elbow hurts so bad its crazy

like its such a dull pain

idk why it hurts because im not tensing my arm

google says overuse but how come other ppl dont get it then

[upper raft]

how many hours did you train yesterday ?

i get pain sometimes in my hand mostly and when it happened, i stopped aim training for like a week to get some rest

[tame fern]

3 maybe

lets gooo

bronze score

finished vdim

what does it mean

1 by 1 or complete

?

[upper raft]

it's the repetition of the scenario i guess

but since you're doing the score treshold method, dont care abt it

[tame fern]

ah alright

[upper raft]

lets goo good progress !!

[tame fern]

is that method good btw?

the threshold one

[upper raft]

i dont see any negative point to it

its more focus oriented and thats all we want tho

[tame fern]

yeah

cause it stops me from autopiloting

[tame fern]

someone is the exact same skill level as me on this scenario 😂

[tame fern]

went back on aimlabs to see if ive gotten better at terratrack from other tracking practice but nope

also did some benchmarks on aimlabs and it seems so much harder to get good ranks

ive improved on other tasks but not terratrack

in 3 days

uhhh

maybe thats why my arms hurt so fucking much

[upper raft]

5 hours per day its too much yea

[tame fern]

lol yeah

[tame fern]

i figured out that when i move up and sit closer to my screen i do wayyy better

im not blind or anything because i still see the targets the same

idk why i do better when closer

[tame fern]

finished vdim, imrpoved evaTS up to 550 but couldnt imrpove bounceTS sadly

[tame fern]

im so bad at clicking holy shit

it feels like i cant improve

both dynamic and static

[tiny talon]

hugee

[tiny talon]

flick > micro > target confirmation doesnt matter if u are slow at first u need to play to get better not to get scores so even if ur score is low keep grinding with this technique and the more u do it the faster u'll get

(this is for static)

[tame fern]

whats target confirmation?

is it just clicking the actualy target after micro

oh its literally what its called

[tiny talon]

yeah literally, its making sure u are on it beforce clicking

[tame fern]

yeah, i need to get faster at making sure though because its holding me back i reckon

[upper raft]

for dynamic, the more you will be confident and accurate the less you will have to confirm being on the target, it will be more about prediction than anything else

[tame fern]

ah i see

[tame fern]

i hate pokeball so much

[upper raft]

why ?

[tame fern]

its so annoying

why do some balls have more hp than others

messes me up

[upper raft]

they have the same hp as far as i remember

maybe you're playing regen scenarios

[tame fern]

no

some are 3 tap

some are 1

[tiny talon]

no i think its the same, but if u are not in the center u'll neeed several taps

thats why u usually want to hold left clicl

[tame fern]

centre does more damage?

[tame fern]

i see

[tiny talon]

for this oneit looks like it

[tame fern]

all pokeballs i pla do that

[upper raft]

i cant picture what scenario is it$

can you send the name ?

[tame fern]

im not on rn

these 4

[tame fern]

@upper raft here i got a short clip of the pokeball being different hp

this scene

but goes for all pokeballs

it says they have instant regen but some do and some dont

[upper raft]

dont play this one maybe its bugged

[tame fern]

maybe idk

what is pokeball even meant to be though

isnt it just targets on a wall

[upper raft]

train speed and microadjustment

very useful

[tame fern]

oh that clip wasnt how i actually play lol, i was just making sure to get it in the middle of the target because yesterday they said it could be that it does less damage if you hit the edges

when i usually play i always hit the edges so i was playing slowly and carefully to make sure i hit the middle for the clip

[tame fern]

does playing static help train micros?

[upper raft]

ofc yes

its the main goal on static since it's more accuracy oriented

fast initial flick the closest to the target and then micro if you werent on target on the initial flick

[tame fern]

i always mess up micros when playing at my usual speed, so when playing static tasks should i go slower than i usually would so i can focus more on microadjusting?

[upper raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOsBjfOGMuU this recent video explained static well

[tame fern]

hm i already watched that video and didnt understand it but i watched it before i even started aim training so i didnt know what he was talking about but ill watch it again

[upper raft]

whats sens do you play static ?

[tame fern]

same sens i play everything with

so 28cm

28.575 to be exact

[upper raft]

thats too fast imo

you should train at a much slower sens

[tame fern]

my mousepad is too small for that and when i play on 28cm in game it feels super slow already

[upper raft]

and then switch back to 28cm when you'll developped better mouse control

skip static and play it when you will receive you skypad ?

[tame fern]

well i have a desk mat so actually its not too small but because of my setup im very limited to how much of it i use

ill send a picture of how much i can use

[upper raft]

okok so i understand it better

[tame fern]

the space above my keyboard is how much i use

i measured it and its 24cm by 37 i think

i have to use a laptop stand so my laptop doesnt overheat and that stand gets in the way

but even without it my laptop would take up most of my desk

[upper raft]

can you just move the keyboard away and bind restart on your mouse ?

since it's kovaak, no use of the keyboard tbh

[tame fern]

i could do that but when i want to play a game itll be very weird

[upper raft]

and i'm nobody to judge, i start playing pc on my bed with a carton box as mousepad lol

[tame fern]

yeah we cant all have a good setup to begin with sadly

but itll do for now

well its my own fault for deciding to buy a laptop

i had a pc but i sold it so i could buy a laptop for some reason]

even though laptops are so much worse in every way possible

[upper raft]

you can still sell it and make a little money from it ?

[tame fern]

i could do

it wouldnt be enough to buy a pc though

and im not downgrading

[upper raft]

and buy something off a deal, it will be much better to upgrade later

i see i see

[tame fern]

most game i like to play nowadays require good specs

so id need something more powerful

[upper raft]

did you order on amazon the skypad ? i have a tips for u if you want

[tame fern]

yeah i did

[upper raft]

check pm

[tame fern]

cant seem to get a bronze score on preciseOrb

this is what the benchmark is looking like rn

get cant bronze scores for preciseOrb, multiclick and pasu rasp no matter how many times i try

this is what the scores looking like on pasu rasp

hit 610 4 times

finally hit bronze on multiclick

[tiny talon]

I think especially for multiclick just doing VDIM makes you sm better

[tame fern]

yeah ill keep doing vdim + weakness everyday

seems to give alot of progress for me

in only 5 days i went from 113 energy to 275

which i think is a fair amount

[tame fern]

trying to improve my vertical tracking

but i find it super super super hard

i dont understand why this is on the weakness routine for precise and smooth

surely this is way to hard for beginning players like myself

by far the hardest task ive done on kovaaks

[tame fern]

why does this happen lol

best score on first try

then cant replicate

[tame fern]

so inconsistent

[upper raft]

too hard on 28Cm so it logic to be inconsistent

[tame fern]

yeah i tried doing 35 and 40 and i literally cant play on them

so i have to stick with 28

[tame fern]

yooooooo

not sure if it was lucky or actual skill

but shiiii 9 more kills than previous pb

🎉

[tiny talon]

nice jobb thats bronze score right?

[tame fern]

yeah bro

[tiny talon]

yeah i rly dont understand either

[tame fern]

what rank are u btw

i dont rmemeber if u already told me or not

[tame fern]

danggg

[tiny talon]

precise orb

is driving me

crazy

[tame fern]

how long it take u to get to gold

and yeah lmao

i hate taht

[tiny talon]

https://discord.com/channels/153919886471593984/1124731342098272266/threads/1258607864478564382/1258607864478564382

[tame fern]

precise is the only thing on iron for me aswell

[tiny talon]

i didnt rly play a month

but i'd say im on like 18-20 days grind

[tame fern]

ah right

[tiny talon]

bcs theres a lot of day i couldn play

[tame fern]

how many hours

[tiny talon]

let me see

I have 92 h rn but i bought kovakks a year ago and only started doing VDIM etc 1month ago

[tame fern]

ah right

[tiny talon]

so prob 60h

[tame fern]

in total i think i got 50 hours in aim trainers

32 hrs into kovaaks

only had it 6 days...

[tiny talon]

hahhah thats a lot but i feel u

sometimes i have 1h30 on just one scen

and then the next 2 days i just dont play

[tame fern]

i dont think i spent more than 15 min on a single scen

[tiny talon]

i wouldnt recommend playinng for 5h a day tho

[tiny talon]

Psalm ts and multiclick

especially psalm

[tame fern]

yeah people always tell me that

[tiny talon]

i grinded it for almost 2h straight

[tame fern]

but i dont rlly see the negatives in training more

apart from injury

[tiny talon]

i mean if u really have a lot of free time

[tame fern]

yeah id o

[tiny talon]

do like 2-2

5h straight

[tame fern]

nah not straight

[tiny talon]

is not good just health wise i think

[tame fern]

i do like 3 in morning

and 2 at night

but i also take a ton of breaks in between

so 3 hr session turns into 4 because of all the breaks

[tiny talon]

what do u do in the 3hour session

[tame fern]

vdim and weakness

2 hr session i do benchmarks and some random playlists to help on scenes i struggle w

[tiny talon]

do u also play any games?

[tame fern]

yeah

i play this game on roblox that requires tracking

so thats why my score is alot higher

on reactive tracking

[tiny talon]

oh i see

i think reactive tracking are the easiest scens to get gold on anyways

[tame fern]

yeah

[tiny talon]

also dont forget to change FOV based on what u play

it does make an huge difference

[tame fern]

i keep it 103 for everything

[tiny talon]

i was hardstuck on multiclick because i forgot to change it

i was at 115 (target switching)

and just made static much harder

then i just grinded multiclick the same day after putting it back at 103 and got gold

[tame fern]

yeah but when im playing a game i cant just change my fov mid fight..

thats why i hate it when people say change sens and fov based on the scen caues i cant take that in game

[tiny talon]

well it still helps u aiming better 🤨

u should change sens based on what u play tho

if u play val and apex

u wont use the same sens

[tame fern]

yeah ofc

[tiny talon]

because one requires much more tracking and target switching when the other one is more about holding angles (so slow sens like close to static sens)

[tame fern]

i normally only play 1 game at a time

so i dont mix and match

rn im only playing that 1 game on roblox

nothing else

apart from kovaaks obv

also how do i know what sens/fov to do for each scen

[tiny talon]

if u put your cursor on the name of the playlist it will give u an adviced FOV, then based on this u can try them

for targetswitching its good around 109-117 maybe

and for bounce ts u can play like 103-110

[tame fern]

got a silver score on bounceshot

💪

[devout talon]

reset mouse

[tame fern]

wdym

[devout talon]

lift it up and bring it back

[tame fern]

yeah but that messes me up

[devout talon]

whatever ure on now as long as ure comfortable then alr

[tame fern]

so i use the mattyOW method and i got a question. if a playlist has tasks that require me to do them 5 times each, and I beat my personal best on the first attempt for every task, does that mean I'm done? Because if there are 10 tasks and I beat my PB on the first try for each one, it seems like I'd finish the playlist in 10 minutes instead of the intended 50 minutes. Right now, it's static for VDIM, and the last time I did this playlist was a week ago, but I'm currently beating all my high scores on the first try. There are 16 scenes meant to be played for about an hour, but with the Score Threshold Method, I'd be done in 16 minutes.

Finishing it in 10 minutes doesnt feel like id be making any progress

it may be hard to understand what im asking but idk how to say it another way

like look

this is what basically happening for everything on the playlist

only 1 attempt then move on since i beat my previous high score

am i even learning by doing this? surely 1 run wont make me learn anything

i mean i guess next time around ill have to do them more times since itll be harder to beat the new high scores

but thats next week

[tame fern]

my brain is getting confused or something

when i do tracking

sometimes i think the target is my crosshair

and the crosshair is my target

and if the target is moving down, i start moving up because i think the target is my crosshair

sounds confusing ik

so i do the opposite of what im meant to be doing

maybe because im tired its making me do weird shit

wtf

i had to be actively reminding my self that the target is NOT my own crosshair 😂

[tiny talon]

hahhaahha nice

[tiny talon]

im not sure, i'll hope someone will give a better answer than me, but when i hit pb in the 1st run. I change between these 2 choices.
Choice 1: skip to next scen bcs i feel like im good and want to play the bench scen as quick as possible.
Choice 2: keep going to see if i can push my pb even more and helps me get warmed up on certain thing

For example, multiclick even when i was hitting pb's i liked to continue just because of how helpufl the vdim is

cluster, speed etc really helps for the bench scen

[tame fern]

alright that helps a lot thanks 🙏

[tame fern]

this happened right after i made a vod for help with precise orb

😂

this is my benchmark now

[tame fern]

can now do novice vdim

jump in difficulty isnt crazy but its there

😭 2 score away from gold

need to practice vert tracking way more than i already do

so bad at it

[tame fern]

i take it back, air ufo invincible is so hard holy shit

[tame fern]

i like aim training but every single muscle in my arm hurts

my tricep, bicep, my shoulder and elbow, wrist and fingers

just everything

idk why it hurts so fucking bad

i do aim training for 2 hours and it hurts so bad but when i play battefield for 10 hours it doesnt

[tame fern]

probably gonna take a break from kovaaks for a bit because im seeing all time low scores and if i continue ill probably get injured

never felt pain like this in my arm before

[upper raft]

take some rest

put cold ice on where u feel pain

[tame fern]

yeah ill do that

idk whats causing the pain though

maybe overuse

[upper raft]

mostly overused

and tension

[tame fern]

ye i find myself tensing way to hard

[upper raft]

you need to be relax, too much tension is a bad habit, makes everything about aiming harder

to smoothness to ts

[tame fern]

im relaxed when i go slowly/normal but when i try to speed up i tense for some reason

so im forced to stay at a low speed

[upper raft]

it's normal

but you already figure it out so it's the first step to improve

know ur mistakes

and then focus to remove the bad habits

[tame fern]

yeah ill try to force myself to always be relaxed

thanks again

[upper raft]

and you can try to pause more when doing your routines

often when i play and it shows that i'm doing nothing good,
i sit back, close my eyes for like maybe 30sec or 1min and focus is restored and it makes me instantly play better

knowing when to pause is the key to improvment

[tame fern]

so when im getting worse scores than i ever have before ill just do that then

caues sometimes my brain just hurts from looking at targets for a long time

[upper raft]

if targets feels blurry

you should pause and wait

do something else for like 10 min

[tame fern]

7:57 - arm doesnt hurt rn

[tame fern]

8:29- elbow starting to hurt after about 20 minutes of playing

[tame fern]

is doing smooth lines better than flicking for static?

[tiny talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTNp6CwsTH8

[tame fern]

that video is the reason on why i asked, its because all good players flick and in games like cs u have to flick and micro. U cant just float ur way slowly over to their heads + being floaty limits ur speed which is needed for every game

[upper raft]

they are making straight lines with fast flick
flicking precisely due to high technique that make them sometimes avoid micro since they are already on target

[tame fern]

sometimes i feel like the highscore that i once got is impossible to reach again

[steep estuary]

I feel that alot

The thing I tend to lean more into is rising your average.

Yes, you can get that "God run", but you shouldn't view a single run as your skill in an area

Look at your average, and raising that more and more, since that builds consistent practices, which does alot more then 1 single score.

Just for Example, If you have 2 sets of scores

Set A: 100 , 105 , 100 , 102 , 110 , 106

Set B: 85 , 93 , 118 , 74 , 86 , 111

The Set A scores are better since there are more consistent

Even tho Set B has 2 scores higher then the best of Set A.

[tame fern]

yeah

[weak shoal]

Huge improvement.

[tame fern]

thank you🙏🙏😁

[tiny talon]

Yeah I'd say as shimmy said when u get to a certain level flicks is surely the best technique but before u even reach this level smooth lines works

[quartz patio]

when did i say at a certain level flicks is the best technique?

[quartz patio]

youre not good enough to use it properly ingame then

thats what the aim training is for

all good players flick is a big overstatement and just because people take 10k hours to get good at bad technique doesnt mean you should do it too

thats just a bad comparison

and can we please not lie about what i say about techniques? i clearly show celestial level and the best static players using these techniques in the video dont twist the shit i say

that completely ruins the entire point of the video and gives people bad information and it makes me really upset seeing this @tiny talon

[tiny talon]

I meant that your video was for the intermediates players wihch means past this level u probably want to use the bardoz method which is flick, micro and target confirmation?

[quartz patio]

I show dracoo, zeonlo, slapped and rensi doing it and they're all celestial players with WRs on everything

The video is for intermediate and novice players because they're the ones that need static help the most

[tiny talon]

That's my bad then I apologise, so I guess both works?

[quartz patio]

Bardoz method is ass

People only get good at it after spending years on it

And there's a hard cap on how far you can get

[tiny talon]

Yeah you probably know it better than me but since there's also crazy player using the bardoz method 🤷

[quartz patio]

I went from gm to nova-astra static scores with this method in a month

I played with bardoz method for 2 months and couldnt pb

There's crazy players using bardoz method but they've been playing static for 3-4 years

[tiny talon]

I'm not saying your technique is bad hahaha I just should've watch the whole video and not the first 15 seconds

[tiny talon]

Yeah makes sense

[quartz patio]

The reason why I target novice and intermediate ppl is so that they dont waste entire years with bad technique

By the time you get really good at it you're just doing a worse version of the rensi technique which is in my video

[tiny talon]

I see I'll take a look at if before spreading misinformation next time, sorry to the both of u @tame fern , @quartz patio

[quartz patio]

Nah it's all good ive been a bit too harsh as well and its my bad for that too

I just feel like i made the video very simple and hard to misunderstand so i get very annoyed seeing it happen

But im happy to clear up some stuff with you

i hope you learned something too

[tiny talon]

No worries I understand your video is not even long that's on me just because I saw a lot of Videos about this method even from Matty or even bulldog used it and since they are like top static players I thought it was how it worked

[tiny talon]

Yeah feel u I would be mad too

[tiny talon]

Yeah thanks you hope u have a great day

[tame fern]

no worries bro you just tried to help me but got somethings wrong🙃

and thanks shimmy for clarifying

🫶

[tame fern]

hugeeeee new high score on pasu rasp

not sure if it was luck or a one-off thing but i hope it was skill 🙏

bruh if i didnt have to reload twice i could have gotten gold score

bounceshot ^^^

every fucking time i do bounceshot its like a 100% chance that i reload twice

so annoying

reloaded twice again

1 more

reloaded twice again but this happened💪

when doing smooth bot i get this really weird thing where my brain thinks my crosshair is the target

i only recently started noticing when i do tracking that happens

tommorow im gonna take my very first break from kovaaks

but only for tommorow

because i want my eyes and arms to rest

aswell as my brain

[tiny talon]

Improvement is real

[tame fern]

sure is

[tame fern]

hoping to reach diamond before 500 hours

then master before 1.5k

then nova before 3k

not sure if these goals are even realistic

[tame fern]

pasu rasp progression goes hard 🔥

got 840

1 off gold bruh

[tame fern]

i thinnk they mistakenly put this in novice

how do i report this bug or whatever it is

[upper raft]

it's not a bug

to get better, you need to work on harder scen

[tame fern]

oh

alright then

[upper raft]

it should feel a lot more harder and then when u comeback to bounceshot novice, balls seems bigger and slower normally

[tame fern]

ahh i see

[steep estuary]

I think they are, but at your rate your starting to improve you will 100% hit diamond before 500 hours

[tame fern]

hopefully 🙏 🙏

[weak shoal]

Worst feeling ever in aim training ngl. Second only to wrist pain.

[tame fern]

yeah fr lol but i cant imagine getting something 1 off master or something, would be so saddening and painful to watch

[tame fern]

nothing special happened today

no new pbs or anything

[tame fern]

yay

silver score

[upper raft]

on skypad 3.0 ?

gg

[tame fern]

yep

[tame fern]

today my shoulder is hurting

which is quite worse than the elbow pain i had yesterday

[tame fern]

huge

lets go sliver score

[tame fern]

tbf im not sure that wasting all these hours is even worth it, i end school next year so i wont have time for gaming anyways and all that aim training gives me is a fuck ton of arm and hand pains

sure its nice that my aim is quite alot better than it used to be but whats the point when i dont even play fps games and in a years time i wont be playing any games at all most likely. Also i spend around 2-3hrs a day playing kovaaks when instead i could be studying which would help me in life

maybe if i wasnt in pain 24/7 whilst playing kovaaks then id be more likely to carry on aim training

idk though ill see if my mind changes in the next few days or so. But as of right now i havent quit

im not saying all these things because i cant be asked to aim train or that im not satisfied with my progress, its just that when i look at it from a logical point of view i literally see no benefits

i only see negatives being; arm pains, hand pains, possible injury in the future

[cunning yacht]

why dont u just grind then 2 categories

and mastery on it

like static and tracking

and learn to reduce tension

and stuff

when i started initially i grinded a lot of smoothness just to develop basic fundamentals

then started playing rest others

i never had pains

initially i had due to bad practices but later i figured to tense less mid runs

and now i usually dont

[cunning yacht]

grinding VDIM , weakness everything is fine

but

if u want a better solution

i recommend put those hours on improoving static and tracking scores

your switching will get insanely better even without VDIM

the better and faster your flicks

the more ease u will have in a long run

[open haven]

Also dont always stick to one routine, make your owns based on your own weakness and featuring scenarios that you have fun on, thats what ive been doing recently and its been giving me positive results, also if you are having that type of pains probably consider reducing your daily playtime that way you'll develop more stamina slowly so youll be able to pull off longer sessions

[cunning yacht]

good one yea

[tame fern]

yeah that sounds like a good idea, thanks for giving me advice

[tame fern]

ill only play an hour a day instead of 2-3, meaning only 1 playlist probablu but thanks

[cunning yacht]

Also which game u play in roblox

[tame fern]

rivals

[cunning yacht]

Since you play that

Highly i recommend

Here are some smoothness scenes i would recommend

• smoothbot

• precise orb and pgti

• air angelic 4 voltaic easy

• controlsphere

[tame fern]

do u play rivals or something

[cunning yacht]

Im training my aim on 60 hz till i get a new pc .

Bad business too sometimes yea

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern u should grind the tsk benches yea thats initially good for you to develop raw smoothness here lemme link it instead start with this and see where u land .

[tame fern]

should i do that instead of my vdim today

[cunning yacht]

Ofc give this a try for today

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ByfhuCiLdUkDI5n5JSSl41fWC3ZMqfkq9oddKu5BTg/edit?usp=sharing

[tame fern]

alright

[cunning yacht]

If u reach level 4 on the initial one , move to next benchmak which start from basics

[tame fern]

i need level 4 on all of these

right

[cunning yacht]

Yup

@tame fern

And modes are easier initially

Remember not to tense at all

Hold the mouse as simple like you grab an egg

[tame fern]

okay ill try

[cunning yacht]

If u tense mid run

Try recalling yourself and keep on reducing it

[tame fern]

what playlists do i do to improve at the benchmarks

[cunning yacht]

https://youtu.be/F7S-mafDz08?feature=shared

Here have a look how to gain smoothness

[cunning yacht]

As i said just for now

Focus on your gold scores on static and tracking

Your switching will get easily better

[tame fern]

okay

im not sure how to imrpove on static cause even after switching technique i suck ass

[cunning yacht]

For static weakness and VDIM both are good to grind

For smoothness i recommend just grind those scenarios

[cunning yacht]

Here

[tame fern]

alright

well i did the tsk beginner

pretty horrid scores but yeah

and now i grind them smoothness tasks out and try get level 4 on all of these correct? @cunning yacht

[cunning yacht]

Yea

See your raw smoothness

Needs to improve a lot then u will see a lot of improvement while doing benches

[tame fern]

ah right

[cunning yacht]

Even if u get close enought to level 4 u can go for a bit smaller scene on the next benches and pb right on the easy one

[tame fern]

whcih smoothbot

theres alot and some are super hard

[cunning yacht]

Also watch this

[tame fern]

yeah i am rn

[cunning yacht]

Smoothbot intermediate try that for now

Vt smoothbot intermediate

[tame fern]

okay

do i do all them tasks intermediate

how can people possibly get worse than what i got

[cunning yacht]

no

how far u got on TSK benches

[tame fern]

i sent that screesnhot earlier

[tame fern]

here

[cunning yacht]

prob u should put more plays on 2nd and 3rd scene

[tame fern]

maybe

[upper raft]

play vertical version only of pgti if you want to get good at smoothness overall

or smaller variant

[tame fern]

that improves smoothness for tasks like smoothbot aswell?

thought vertical tasks only improve vertical smoothness

[cunning yacht]

it will be beneficial

either ways for smoothbot too

when it glides down and goes up

[tame fern]

ah'

fps what rank are u

[cunning yacht]

if u ask me well i grind for specific categories

not complete rank

[tame fern]

how come

why dont u grind all of the categories

[cunning yacht]

diamond on smoothbot inter , controlsphere have like 8k static is gold ( grinding less ) , pasu platinum

[cunning yacht]

i play a roblox game

which doesnt require switching

neither

[tame fern]

jailbreak?

[cunning yacht]

yea

[tame fern]

r u an og player

[cunning yacht]

2020 well i belong to the pvp community

not grinding

[tame fern]

oh

is the old bugatti (brulee) good?

if u know or dont idk

[cunning yacht]

yea reactive platinum but hard to rank up in 60hz

tbh

[cunning yacht]

many better cars

are released after it

[tame fern]

isnt it like the 2nd fastest

[cunning yacht]

not anymore

og days yea

[tame fern]

oh cause i saw some tiktok video saying top speeds of all cars

and it said scorpion in 1 and brulee in 2

[cunning yacht]

here lemme show how i play this a clip of my friend not me

[cunning yacht]

nah all joke

[tame fern]

im talking about top speed not accelration cause ik the accel is slow

[cunning yacht]

torpedo

2nd is

brulee

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern

ehmmm

what did u do today

[tame fern]

nothing but ima do a weakness routine before i go to bed

[cunning yacht]

whenever i feel sleepy

i do static

lol

for tracking

[tame fern]

does it help u with it

[cunning yacht]

i need focus

[tame fern]

yea same

ill do static weakness

[cunning yacht]

and when my eye lids close while doing scenes like smoothbot the bot goes 3 feets away from crosshair

[tame fern]

lol that happens to me aswell

[cunning yacht]

well if you waana play rivals i have another friend

who can play with you

@cloud prairie

help him out cuh

[tame fern]

do u know what region he is in though

cause im eu

[cunning yacht]

oceiana servers

[tame fern]

ah

thatll mean one of us will play on 700 ping

...

[cunning yacht]

man anything i wd do to just get him off jb

[tame fern]

why dont u want him playing it lol

[cunning yacht]

that game is a big downgrade for jades

he is just too good yk

never dies

literally

1 v 5s

[tame fern]

ah i get it

[cunning yacht]

he is insane

[tame fern]

he should try rivals then

[cunning yacht]

he kills me even before i pull out my gun and jump from my car

[tame fern]

sucks that he is on oce servers cause i need a duo

[cunning yacht]

he is really good at finals tho

plays finals yea

[tame fern]

this game

right?

[cunning yacht]

yea

[tame fern]

i used to play that when it came out

i was so bad at it

i hated it

[cunning yacht]

you should try it

with red

[tame fern]

eh idk i dont rlly like those kind of games

maybe if i was good at them id like it

[tame fern]

why am i so bad at static holy shitttt

[cloud prairie]

Huh

Who pinged me

@tame fern

Heyyyy

How are you

I can play on 700 ping

I don’t care

I am used to high ping

I always play on high ping

So doesn’t effect me

[cloud prairie]

I got advanced

On all

[cunning yacht]

the 1st bench

or the next 2 benches too ?

[cloud prairie]

Yes

[cloud prairie]

Idk

[cunning yacht]

well you should try out the 2nd bench then

which has a bit extra modes

since it was mentioned if u attain level 4 move to next one

[tame fern]

we could try and make it work then but i just woke up so later if anything

[cunning yacht]

Let him be at 700

Still he can do fine

@cloud prairie

[cloud prairie]

ok

[tame fern]

omds the amount of times ive sold a gold score on pasu rasp is insane

been counting and so far i sold 39 runs

sometimes i even got predicted to get 1000+ but then i just miss like 20 shots in a row

spent 30 minutes of my precious life trying not to reload once in a run and couldn't manage it smh, hopefully tommorow i wake up and get better accuracy somehow

[cunning yacht]

grind pasu

the more u grind it gets better

reading gets better

thats how i taze @cloud prairie everytime before he even kills me 😅

[tame fern]

yeah i figured that but dude my current high score on it is 840 and every single run im on track to getting 900-1000 but then i miss

its so annoying

[cunning yacht]

if u feel annoyed

no need to over do it

hop and do some other things

like tsk bench

or some raw smoothness

[tame fern]

i just skipped it and carried on with my playlist

[cunning yacht]

then come back 5 mins later

on that

[tame fern]

ill retry pasu in a few hours

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern of if u want to enjoy pasu more here try

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D__fiAekJWnENvRyWNGJsCX-19kj7xQrzy5RZB9yv6k/edit?gid=0#gid=0

easy ones

[tame fern]

god dang how many of these benchmarks are there

ik theres a speed one aswell

[cunning yacht]

infinite

[tame fern]

seems like it

yeah ill do that after my playlist

[tame fern]

i really really hope u were joking when u said they were easy

[weak shoal]

It says easy tho

[tame fern]

cant imagine what the "hard" one is like

[tame fern]

after 16 days of not improving on static i finally did it

2 off silver score so a bit sad

[tame fern]

silver score on rasp 🦾

[tame fern]

heres how the bench is looking

66 energy gain since last update of bench

and that was 2 weeks ago

[weak shoal]

Nice reactive scores.

[cunning yacht]

i remember i got 830 on my 1st day when i grinded static

well it might be due to me playing aimstars back

eh i never knew the importance of static back then

i grinded with wrong technique

well yea

[cunning yacht]

surprisingly my multiclick was worse than 1w6ts

after i improoved it

i saw much results on my flick speed

[tame fern]

ye ive not got the speed for it to be better than 1w6ts

[cunning yacht]

but since u only grind for rivals

i suggest

improove multiclicks

unless u start off with val or cs in future

[tame fern]

well i dont grind this** for** rivals, i js want to be a better aimer in general

[cunning yacht]

aw nice

[tame fern]

sure itll help with it but itd be nice to be actually good in alot of fps games

cause i suck ass at most

[cunning yacht]

nah its good grind 1w6ts

it will be more easier for u to learn

hospital flicks

on real targets lol

[tame fern]

alr

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern try this game at night before u go sleep

https://www.roblox.com/games/2677609345/NEW-SONGS-Sound-Space-Rhythm-Game

[tame fern]

what is that

[cunning yacht]

it improoves reaction time

[tame fern]

oh

[cunning yacht]

really great

song game

just like OSU

[tame fern]

alright then

[cunning yacht]

its good to play

when its dark

or lights off usually

at night

[tame fern]

ah ok

[tame fern]

havent gotten any shoulder/hand/wrist pains in 2 days

which is super good

cause that is the main reason i wanted to stop aim training

[weak shoal]

Don't worry.
The pain is only in the beginning and probably after long breaks or excessive training sessions.

[cunning yacht]

learn to control the tension

mid run

u wont get pains

theres always a process

[tame fern]

yeah im getting better at that

[tame fern]

my static is improving

which is good

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern

can u show your VDIM playlist

static scores

which u get

[tame fern]

all of them?

[cunning yacht]

especially the one after

6 sphere hipe fire voltaic

pokeball

[cunning yacht]

no

[tame fern]

so only this one

or one after it

[cunning yacht]

yeah from there

all

[tame fern]

oh ok

[cunning yacht]

ignore multiclicks

i waana see since i started to do VDIM

[tame fern]

thats all the ones after6 sphere

@cunning yacht

[cunning yacht]

yea thanks

@tame fern do u ever set a threshold while playing it

like u got 84 on pokeball 1w4ts frenzy

[tame fern]

yea

[cunning yacht]

u should set threshold to 79+

average

all time

if u dont get it that day

you should not stop playing it

[tame fern]

ye thats what i do

[cunning yacht]

nice

[cunning yacht]

somehow

my static

is better than tracking

idk

[tame fern]

tf thats weird

[cunning yacht]

im progressing way faster

[cunning yacht]

yeah

maybe due to bad peripherals my tracking scores are shit well idm

static doesnt matter even if u play at 60

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern

Tracking scenes : ( variants of )

1. Smoothbot
2. Controlsphere
3. Air angelic 4 voltaic
4. centering 1 and 2 180 no strafes
5. pgti voltaic easy
6. Whole TSK bench

meh since i am grinding static what i do is to control my overflicks , i wd js grind static for 30 mins then play controlsphere and aa4 a bit then again
get back on static grind .

so that my tracking doesnt get washed

while grinding static overtime

[tame fern]

should i do them

[cunning yacht]

Yeah for a short term it's good

When I reach my static goal

I may change the method

[tame fern]

alright

[cunning yacht]

Usually I don't grind any routines for tracking

Static is essential

[tame fern]

randomly got this

nearly silver complete

dang

[upper raft]

it's a great scen, it will make you instantly better at TS

you can try the 2 targets variants, it helped me adding speed and accuracy to wider targets

[tame fern]

alright ill do that aswell

in 12 days i went from hitting silver to silver complete

is that good progress or not

i took 2 breaks so technically only 10 days of actual playing

[upper raft]

not matter what, if you're improving, it's always good progress

but yeah silver to silver complete is great !

[tame fern]

thanks 😄

[tame fern]

do u know a benchmark like this but for static?

[weak shoal]

I fell from Jade to below Platinum and I still consider coming back to Diamond as a good progress 😅

10 days for silver is pretty good imo

[cunning yacht]

Yeah wait linking it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SLZu_GlANrA_vYCXdgGHo-SDqJy8kl4-xWg3zU47kaQ/edit?gid=1322839537#gid=1322839537

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CXpRFmKdAPqvzvsUXjMdMY9uRmesu-3bsNEu-Oismzg/edit#gid=1947681947

[open haven]

Good stuff

[tame fern]

thanks 🙏

[tame fern]

crazy

[upper raft]

Nice jump

[tame fern]

gold score 💪

[tame fern]

thanks 😄

[keen rapids]

Arent you like gm now

[cunning yacht]

@tame fern

use this for target switching improovement

https://youtu.be/mnA4S6zVQ-0?si=S1_hR69xomm0En-f

[tame fern]

me or goblino?

[tame fern]

okay ill watch tgat when i get on my pc

thanks

[cunning yacht]

lol

i fell off

on static

900 on 1w6ts

need to grind back

was playing bad buisness with my broski for a long time

[keen rapids]

You

[tame fern]

what no lol

i wish though

maybe one day

[keen rapids]

Dang

Im like bronze

[tame fern]

i only got silver comp like 2 days ago

[keen rapids]

So you should be gold by now

[tame fern]

tf no

who progresses that quickly

[keen rapids]

Uhhh normal peopel?

[tame fern]

50 energy in 2 days is hard asf

if gm was obtainable in a few weeks everyone would have it bro idk what ur talking about 💀

[cunning yacht]

not normal people

its only possible

who have over 200 to 500 + hours fps experience

the one with 0 fps experience progress slowly

[keen rapids]

But salzi had like no fps experience

[tame fern]

whos salzi

[keen rapids]

And got gm in like 100h i think

[tame fern]

thats gotta be bs

[keen rapids]

He either got gm in 100h or immortal in val in 100h i might be mixing them up

[tame fern]

either way he mustve had some experience in other aim trainers or hes just lying about how many hours he has into fps games

[keen rapids]

Okay

Also how many hours do y'all have rn

[tame fern]

like 60 probably

[keen rapids]

I got like 800-900 and im hardstuck💀

I might be cooked

[tame fern]

hardstuck bronze?

[keen rapids]

Nah

[tame fern]

u said u were bronze

[keen rapids]

I was joking

[tame fern]

whats ur actual rank then

[keen rapids]

Master

[tame fern]

oh nice

[keen rapids]

I got master at around 800h

[tame fern]

when did u get diamond

[keen rapids]

600

[tame fern]

200 hours and going from diamond to master is quick imo

do u know how long u played for each day

[keen rapids]

At like 400 hours i was gold

And when i started i was iron

[tame fern]

ah right

i have a feeling i wont reach gold for quite some time

[keen rapids]

Most of my hours in the novice benches was on a slop laptop with a slop mouse

[tame fern]

oh

[cunning yacht]

look at my setup

dms

[cunning yacht]

definitely

u can

but examine

your each and every runs

reset for a good start ( usually i do that )

[tame fern]

yeah i do that alot

[cunning yacht]

also at a novice level

use this technique for static

if u miss a shot at ur 1st 10 seconds reset or if u miss totally 5 times reset the round

just at the begineer level

am saying

[keen rapids]

What fps can you run kovaaks

[cunning yacht]

60-70

on 1920 1080 res

[keen rapids]

With the entire game pixelated?

[cunning yacht]

doesnt matter

im trying to be a static

main thats why

cuz i realized hz doesnt affect static at all

maybe the flicks are kinda unclear

but its still alright

tracking gets easier as i progress on static somehow

[keen rapids]

You develop more mouse control i believe

[cunning yacht]

exactly

look at that mouse also

i think im gonna change to

a different one

later

i like it since its 40 grams

@tame fern

[tame fern]

yeah

[cunning yacht]

whats your controlsphere score

[tame fern]

idk id have to check

[cunning yacht]

mine is 6.5k rn

[keen rapids]

Mines horrible i havent played that in forever lmao

[cunning yacht]

i like that a lot idk

why xd

smoothbot and controlsphere

are my fav scene

[tame fern]

i hate em both ngl

[cunning yacht]

oh yeah

try this one wait

[keen rapids]

Smoothbot pauer glider🤤

[cunning yacht]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PDi9tnvP2hJL0KbdFNlZMFK226GxscRpQUJ_u8c8E5E/edit#gid=830398671

[tame fern]

im horrid at it

[cunning yacht]

i think

you are doing somehwere wrong

if i look a vod of yours

i can help it to push over 5k

[keen rapids]

Just track

[tame fern]

my tracking isnt good