S5 Road to KovaaKs GM - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

its very jittery aim

the higher back is also weard.

gonna see how it feels after a while

latenzy and clicks feel amazing

also if anyone wanna add me on steam: 192058227

2/16

[thin dawn]

pasu is hard af WTF

movement is more random

and bots are different sizes if im not mistaken

also not always the same speed

how do you predict that

i can only hit 910 after 10 min. not even jade

Holy

deff some work i need to put into that one

[weak hull]

It’s just Fortnite glider bots basically

Gentle descents as they strafe left and right; the big movement is an upwards diagonal movement that’s really stiff

[thin dawn]

its insanly hard for me somehow

cant even hit any jade score in dynamic

lets see tomorrow

gonna do some more tries tomorrow

day 1

[quaint tapir]

bro hasn't used the marksman rifle

2 shot kill 🤣

across any range

[thin dawn]

I did today 👀😂

[quaint tapir]

Preset marksman class is best

[thin dawn]

I got 32-4 in ranked mode with that haha

[thin dawn]

Do we have any tipps for precice tracking.

[long glacier]

what do yall play to improve at steadytrack

im so hardstuck

[peak elm]

steadytrack

[long glacier]

nope

[weak hull]

Steady track is just a suavetrack bot with predictable Y axis smooth strafes.

Spend 90% of your energy matching X axis velocity smoothly and cleanly matching strafes

Then autopilot Y axis

[long glacier]

damn getting 300 more points on this is gonna be a pain

[weak hull]

Sure but all you do is one task over and over again

So what it really is is Some small X% better each strafe = 300 points

[long glacier]

closing up dat gap

figured out the secret to steadytrack

[weak hull]

[long glacier]

just gotta be precise, reactive doesnt matter as much as i thought

[weak hull]

Ya there’s nothing to react to

[long glacier]

smoothness is key

[weak hull]

Bot does maybe 70 X axis strafes in a minute

[thin dawn]

slow progress

wrong pic lol

didn screenshot

but 940 in pasu

any tips?

[peak elm]

i tried shotguns in xdefiant for first time

they are the most broken weapon and shittiest weapon in the game

at the same time

point blanks take 2-3 shots to kill sometimes and sometimes i 1shot someone full hp from a far

what a fantastic game

[thin dawn]

hmmm

[nimble willow]

Lol i got 930 today too

[nimble willow]

Pog

Ull probably hit master eventually on it u just need to learn mire the move pattern at it will come quickly

[thin dawn]

another

[peak elm]

u guys make me want to aim train

[thin dawn]

do it!

also bounceshot is impossible idk

dynamic in koovaks is hard af.

deff gonna work on that

[thin dawn]

Idk theese koovaks tasks are hard af

Gonna give myself a week to get used to the movement patterns

[weak hull]

X in kovaaks is hard yea

[thin dawn]

Jeah its crazy

I dont feel like a gm anymore haha

[thin dawn]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

this master is like grandmaster no cap

3/16

2 dots more

zack 4/16

close

thats it for today

got some ts taskt to master

but gotta work hard on tracking and dynamic

also didnt do a lot of mooving scenarios yet

theese one gonna go hard aswell i think

op1 feels good, exspecially for koovaks, since i get bigger range for micro but i loose stability

deff learning a lot theese days tho

glad to grind out something else

after getting gm

[eager mantle]

no way more 22 for plat on voltaic

[long glacier]

@thin dawn once you hit gm do you have to make a playlist of all your scores or only the gm scores?

[thin dawn]

all scores, but you can rewatch them in aimlabs

[long glacier]

aight thanks

[thin dawn]

holy shit i played some cs rn and this shit was hella fun

2 4k

havent played since 2 months or so

[long glacier]

used to play faceit

that shit was hard 💀

[thin dawn]

Jeah cs is hard

[thorn jacinth]

i just did all the scores that gave me energy

[peak elm]

game feels really slippery since the last time i played it

maybe its cuz im use to valorant movement now but everytime I stop, it's not an instant stop and it fucks me up

i dont know why it fucks me up, i have 10k hours in cs you'd think id be use to it by now

[thin dawn]

Its because even if the games are very similar the movement is really different.

[peak elm]

ya valorant movement is better LUL

except for the bhopping

bring that back

neon is the closest thing

[thin dawn]

I think valorant movement is more simple and easy. I rather have cs movement im sry

• bhopping in cs2 is impossible

[peak elm]

coming from someone who spent their entire child and teenhood playing counter strike

I completely agree

and honestly i miss csgo

cs2 looks nice but its literally golden shit

if i didnt have 100ping every match and stuff was balanced

i would be obsessed with xdefiant

cuz it reminds me of bo4 and i grinded the fk out of it

[thin dawn]

I really like valorant as a game, and i think its the highes quality game out there but man. Every game has ability’s and its fucking me over. Cs is working with just clean Granates and the game mastered the simplicity. Thats why i dont wanna game val or xdefiant. I find abilities just boaring and not rewarding while granades can be used to get free kills and its much more simple to play against

https://youtu.be/mjalFNn7OsU?si=afY7Ez_3Pzw1OyFt

Like bro

From a watching standpoint aswell

[peak elm]

too be fair, thats pro val

[thin dawn]

Cs is just more fun imo.

[nimble willow]

I agree with you but that’s also the reason I enjoy it so much idk

[peak elm]

unranked to immortal 1 is like

[thin dawn]

And its sad cuz cs2 sucks ass as a game

[peak elm]

0 util usage

and comms

[thin dawn]

Not for my experience

Wait i have a good clip

[nimble willow]

Yeah i dont think so even people in gold throw raze granades at decent spots idk

I think past diamond pretty much people start hitting you with abilities most of the time

The comms thing depends more on the game some of them no one talks others everyone does idk

[peak elm]

ya but thats when you expect it

they throw default abilties

arguably below diamond is hard af because nobody plays playbook

[thin dawn]

Idk its more like in cs everyone has the same Granates. In val theres 20 different Charakters ans stuff ya know

[nimble willow]

Yeah u need to put time into the game but idk it’s fun

[thin dawn]

jeah its deff fun, just not my type of cake. id rather play leage to spam abilities

https://www.twitch.tv/tobytwofaced/clip/PerfectElegantPepperoniTriHard-LZlA7nri_mN9mG8V?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

this shit was 3 years ago

we where drunk streaming

[weak hull]

Yeah, that’s one of the things that I personally prefer about counterstrike as opposed to Valant; the tools are a lot more universal and you can switch jobs mid game without causing too much fuss. Valorant, you are stuck with the character you select and you have to basically always be ready to do your job All game.

[peak elm]

bro is so oblivious but just better

absolute god

[thin dawn]

bruh this guy throwing animals at me wtf

character was new back then

[peak elm]

wait until you get neon concussed while she bhops around you

they need to add proximity chat

you'd start hearing clown music getting louder and louder

[thin dawn]

I mean i have played since i know how it is but man. Gunfights are so fun but the utillity is just op and i dont think the games about mechanical skill anymore 🥲

[peak elm]

games probably all mech skill until asc

so many of my friends in immortal that dont use their brain

but get insane 1taps and shit

30 bombs every game using no util

[thin dawn]

man i wish there was a good game with only gun skill and no abillityies

last game was tarkov imo. before inertia this game was straight fire

[peak elm]

bo2

although they had kill streaks

but dont count that pls

tarkov too immersive

i legit have panic attack every game'

i dont think iv had 1 successful evac

[thin dawn]

bro u probably never played before inertia

just jump arround and push

[thin dawn]

goals: hit master complete on koovaks, after that probably gonna grind val benchmarks and go for faceit lvl 10

[peak elm]

bros a grinder

respect

[thin dawn]

no cap after 4 days i really enjoy the koovaks taskt

like the movement tasks are stragiht fire

[nimble willow]

L take

[thin dawn]

huh?

with movment you have a whole different aspect of using your technique

this thing will improve your ingame aim drasticly

[peak elm]

W take on a L take

[thin dawn]

wait ya all hate movment tasks?

[peak elm]

its good scen but its just NOT FUN

I LIKE FUN

[thin dawn]

but why its not fun for you?

i actually like it more

u can use your movment to aim more efficient

crazy fun for me idk

[peak elm]

maybe cuz i dont play games with a lot of movement

so its nre

new

[nimble willow]

Nah I only move on valorant

I just cba to play movement scenarios on aimtrainers till I get master

It’d probably help yeah but I’d rather play dms on val

[thin dawn]

it doesnt count to masters tho

only complete ranks

[thin dawn]

jeah i feel that

[peak elm]

movements scens are for those 90 year old unreal players

LUL

[thin dawn]

i guess im one of them

haha

[peak elm]

W

[thin dawn]

yessir

better pb

[nimble willow]

Naisu

[thin dawn]

Almost top 500 score

Also i find it great learning basic technique in aimlabs and then converting them into koovaks where you need to get way more speed

Also in koovaks scenarios are made so hitting harder shots is needed

In aimlabs you will get punished for it

[weak hull]

There are some scenarios that I think are really brutal in aim labs but a lot of the kovaaks ones with moving dots are brutal

There are also weirdly enough a lot of inconsistencies between voltaic benchmarks, even for the same season

You need a different static technique for kovaaks since the lack of a penalty on miss provides a different amount of tolerance for mistakes

[thin dawn]

Jeah like aimlabs is about clean runs while koovaks is focusing on hitting hard shots as fast as possible

Also tracking in koovaks is way more random wich i like

What are like really hard scenarios in aimlabs?

[weak hull]

I think just the miss penalty makes dynamic scens ridiculous

[thin dawn]

jeah like i said a clean run is really the way in aimlabs but i think speed is way more hard to achieve and you need that in koovaks

idk im getting plat scores in koovaks

im jade

haha

fkn gm in aimlabs

[nimble willow]

Yeah that’s true in kovaaks you can have a super clean run and bc of speed have it be barely diamond

But u’ll surely be master on kvks in no time a lot of it is just getting morse used to the scens

[vapid elbow]

So in kovaacs the penalties for missing are not that severe as in AL?

[long glacier]

https://discord.com/channels/153919886471593984/1124731342098272266/threads/1245777450659614730/1245777450659614730

[weak hull]

It’s not a game thing it’s a scenario thing

A lot of the vt scenarios use log accuracy penalties

So you get points for connected shots and lose points on missed shots

And previous shots affect future shot accuracy

You will earn less points per shot if your accuracy lowers until it comes back up

[thin dawn]

Gonna look at it later

[long glacier]

preciate it

[thin dawn]

huge jump

[eager mantle]

is that really good @thin dawn ? im not really into vt on kovaks

[thin dawn]

tbh i have no idea haha

like koovaks is more raw aim and reacting and aimlabs is more clean technique so its different but like a nice change up for me

kinda burnt out of aimlabs after hitting gm

[peak elm]

i need to main kvks

im all aim no brain

0 tech

[thin dawn]

nah thats not true

i used my angleshot tech for pasu

helped me tons

aimlabs is more simple wich i think its good for learning

koovkas is more complicated wich helps more in game i think#

[thin dawn]

1 point off masters

POG

[thin dawn]

must watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR1zeyGytGA

[delicate mountain]

does a really good job explaining the proper approach to improving aim. so many people think "just aim at the dots and i'll get better" instead of understanding that aiming a procedural skill, and each step unlocks more steps down the road.

[thin dawn]

jeah this is technique

[peak elm]

Bro said meditation not gonna give you calm aim

Bet you $500 if I give a mouse to a Tibetan monk in the mountains he would be the calmest aimer in the universe

ON GOD

[thin dawn]

op1 and hien feeling great

more stopping power feels good, with the raiden this 40g mouse is just to hard to controle

[eager mantle]

im hardstuck idk what to do im lost on how to get out of plat

im always playing with the team

[eager mantle]

im trying to buy op1 but its out of stock in portugal

for weeks

[thin dawn]

VOD review

find something to work on your gameplay

dont think about rank

its just a number

like age

you can always improve tho

even when you are 100 years old you can learn something new

same with game

when you radiant you can learn more

[eager mantle]

i see ill try to vizualize ranked as that thanks

[thin dawn]

gamecapture buged

but good scores

[eager mantle]

i have been today all day grinding valorant

didnt even go to aimlabs yet

[thin dawn]

like someone who is 50 years old knows more like someone with 30 years, but 30 years guy could be smarter ya know

grind day

[eager mantle]

yeah its all about how you take the things you do daily

[thin dawn]

YEP

mindset > rank

[eager mantle]

yeahhh

[thin dawn]

also hien feels more smooth then raiden

interesting

[eager mantle]

never really had experience with any mouse or mousepad

i had a mouse and mousepad for 5 years

the mouse and mousepad were really bad

[thin dawn]

tbh stick with it if you have not real issues with it

[eager mantle]

then i bought basilik v3 and razer gigantus like 5 months ago

[eager mantle]

im only trying to get a new mouse rn

[thin dawn]

my raiden mid is goated for gpx2 but now i wanna change it up with the op1, probably not the best idea but idk just wanna change things up

[eager mantle]

trying new things is good

[eager mantle]

im thinking to buy sora v2 but im not sure because of the price

or sora 4k

[peak elm]

Play on Portuguese instead of japanese

[thin dawn]

trying new peripherals is not good imo

just when you make a break or u finished your goals

[eager mantle]

im playing in madrid server thats just the language of the game xd

[thin dawn]

lol

[eager mantle]

for me it was positive

maybe bcs the other peripherals were really bad

but even tho it was really good to get new peripherals

i needed like 1 week to readapt myself

[thin dawn]

it can be but if you have somewhat good gear it needs time to adapt

and i am not talking about 1 week

[eager mantle]

yeah thats true

[thin dawn]

it takes you like 3 months till you get really comfortable

so never do it when you are in your grind time

this fucks up improvement a lot

could have hit gm way faster aswell

but i changed a lot

[eager mantle]

my first objective rn is getting a liquid chalk bcs my hands are always sweating

[thin dawn]

that sounds good

[eager mantle]

i already bought it but idk when its reaching maybe tuesday or wednesday

[thin dawn]

i really wanna try out a zero soft but 65 bucks and shipps in fkn mid august

like idk

[eager mantle]

yeah its really expensive for a mousepad

but its well talked among the pro players

[thin dawn]

jeah i just wanna try it tho

idk if i like it

few more points to master in koovaks

[nimble willow]

bro fix

That bug pls jsjfjsnfbsbf

[thin dawn]

jeah i did

[eager mantle]

gg

only need arcswitch now to get complete plat

[thin dawn]

gg

hugeeeeeeeeeeeeee jump

[eager mantle]

3 points for diamond

[thin dawn]

this shit is hard to get into masters

[eager mantle]

how much for master?

[thin dawn]

4250

[nimble willow]

kovaaks so goated frfr

[thin dawn]

5/16 Koovaks Master Complete NoseBleedHero´s progress Sheet

[delicate laurel]

wait why is my score on this 86 💀

[nimble willow]

lmaoo

[thin dawn]

ahahha

go get better one 5 heads

im waiting

5/16 NoseBleedHero to Koovaks Master Complete

[delicate laurel]

its been so long since ive played sea of thieves

this game is fun af when u can aim lol

just won a 1v4

[delicate laurel]

dw i will

[eager mantle]

even when you cant aim its fun

[delicate laurel]

true i used to play it with a group of friends it was pretty fun

[delicate laurel]

not that great but

at least its not 86 lol

[thin dawn]

ulala

good score

[delicate laurel]

ty

[eager mantle]

got this clutch but still lost the game

[thin dawn]

omg last kill wtf

[thin dawn]

The guy that send me dr K is a legend 🔥 hes fire

[vapid elbow]

What’s that?

[peak elm]

i have a name wtf

[eager mantle]

chill nose maybe forgot who sent it

[peak elm]

no ill never forgive him

[thin dawn]

Maybe i dont have a brain

[thin dawn]

But ty

[eager mantle]

xd

[peak elm]

its okay i forgive you

i think im going to switch over to kovaaks when i hit masters

[eager mantle]

i think now i got the tracking technique and im trying to apply it on valorant but its too tiresome

[peak elm]

isnt tracking technique just less tension?

cuz players dont move very fast in that game

[eager mantle]

not really

you use alot of your elbow and arm on tracking

on flicks you use more of your wrist

[peak elm]

i mean that would be the case if the target was moving very fast or wide

but thats never the case in valorant unless literally in ur face

[peak elm]

also this sounds painful

[eager mantle]

i dont get much pain on my wrist when i use it alot

idk if its bcs im used

[peak elm]

prob cuz u dont flick constantly in valo unless bad xhair placement

or braindead jett player

[eager mantle]

i used to use alot of my wrist for everything which is wrong

[peak elm]

u use a fast sens?

[eager mantle]

rn im using low

2,5 800dpi

that is like 61 on aimlab

[peak elm]

this should fix ur overreliance of wrist then

[thin dawn]

Tracking should be a combination of wrist and arm, wrist is quicker to react and more precise for flicking or staying on target while arm is more smooth and consistent. Aply both for quick and smooth tracking and you will be goated

[eager mantle]

i see thank you

the grind paid off

[quaint tapir]

get ur goofy goober back on aimlabs and hit nova

[thin dawn]

[thin dawn]

I mean i play like 5hours a week now so its not gonna happen

[thin dawn]

gonna be at work till sunday

soo no grinders for me

ill be in germany for theese days

@weak hull i wanna see you beeing gm when i come back ❤️

[eager mantle]

vacation or work trip?

[delicate mountain]

Yeah flicks optimally should be done w the arm to maintain the wrists range of motion for adjustments after the flick

[thin dawn]

Work trip 🙂

[eager mantle]

thats cool, my cousing is in germany right now on a work trip too

he said he is enjoying alot

[eager mantle]

master on waveshot and very irregular benchmarks xd

and the liquid chalk is here now too so i wont have to worry abt my hands sweating

[thin dawn]

Im not home 😦 vod pls

[long glacier]

idk how to download

[eager mantle]

@thin dawn how was the work trip?

[thin dawn]

Still on it

[thin dawn]

U need to record

[eager mantle]

i try to open it but it doesnt load

[long glacier]

restart the game maybe

[eager mantle]

already tried that

[thin dawn]

@weak hull i got u

[weak hull]

Ya it’s just a can of worms thing for me

If I let one person talk to me like that then others might also think it’s okay

[thin dawn]

now @thorn jacinth looks stupid ahhaha

[weak hull]

And then weird shit happens and I gotta explain something

It probably won’t happen even if I don’t do anything

Put another way

[thin dawn]

yeye i get it exspessially as a teacher

[weak hull]

‘Beyond reproach’ means that my behavior needs to be unscrutinizable

There shouldn’t even be the appearance or perception of weird shit

5 years ago I would have been chill about it lol

I wear some different hats now

[thin dawn]

for me its just more like when i like someone for what they are doing we say i love you as a respect in my country, but here we are international so its my fault, gotta realize its not like that everywhere.

[weak hull]

no no it's the same here in america

but how you say

it's 'informal'

it's something informally said a lot by students and minors especially

so saying it has those connotations

using it as a friends chill thing is totally fine here in the US but generally speaking I try to avoid 'informal' styles of communication because the university i represent is very publicly listed on all my social media

so i have to act like a teacher when i'm around

i have friends who would talk to me like that irl but its just that; people i have a relationship with personally outside of work

[thin dawn]

jeje like i said, for your job you gotta be more carefull since its social. Myself as a filmmaker its really importaint to be yourself and have your style, not just make videos.

[weak hull]

thanks for understanding, i promise im not trying to be an aloof jackass lol

it is an Ass Covering Behavior

doing it is generally good for my job

[thin dawn]

its always 2 sides friend

good talk.

how you doing with gm

can i help somehow?

[weak hull]

im about to hit the bricks

more speed switching

just gotta put in hours

i can get it

[thin dawn]

u got a vod?

wanna see if i find anything

im back home now

did 86 hours of work last week

wanna see some dots now

[weak hull]

i spent the last few days doing sphere switch vdim and bench

its skyswitch day methinks

[thin dawn]

Guys i wanna do the google doc where ill write the fundamentals of technique and explain that. Do you guys have any things you think that need to be in there?

[thin dawn]

bro wtf is wrong with aimlabs

i cant play the ranked tasks

the load like 10 min

[delicate laurel]

weird

works fine for me

[weak hull]

haha @thin dawn thats right go play kovaaks

[thin dawn]

fk that im not loading for 10 min

wtf

got master 2 or something tho

[long glacier]

mfs took 3 days to tell me that i should include the leaderboard

[thin dawn]

Ahaha thats unlucky 😂

[thorn jacinth]

same happened to me the first time lol

[weak hull]

Better than the other master player who submitted Gm vods without the system clock and had to do their runs again 😭

[eager mantle]

maybe some vods explaining and demonstrating exactly how to do it and how it works

[thin dawn]

what we think about the aim in game

[delicate laurel]

lookin pretty clean

[nimble willow]

I dont even knoe which game this is but arent they supposed to shoot back?

[weak hull]

first half of the clip was wack

but then you cooked

[thin dawn]

Yeah, this clip felt like its only aim carrying me, bad movement and no game plan right there

And first enemys i was suprised af 😂

[long glacier]

was about time…

[thin dawn]

Hell yeah congrats

[eager mantle]

https://go.aimlab.gg/v1/redirects?link=aimlab%3A%2F%2Fcompare%3Fid%3Db5af6eb1-b72b-42d1-a6a4-dd0496be21c5%26source%3DB1AF3D4B16214B24&link=steam%3A%2F%2Frungameid%2F714010

can someone help me with tracking scenarios

i sent one of my recent scores(bcs i stopped playing for 10 days)

[thin dawn]

Man i work way to much lately, played some aimlabs yesterday and im 4 points off grandmaster

Like in the new aimlabs ranked

[thorn jacinth]

not bad for first try

[thin dawn]

2nd

🌚

[thin dawn]

ok got gm4

looking good

[thin dawn]

i freaking love apex

[delicate laurel]

wtf 💀

[thin dawn]

retired aimer - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

wow new season 😮

[delicate laurel]

yup

it’s pretty fun

[thin dawn]

shit is hard ngl

[thin dawn]

first master score

S3 | 667/800 - NoseBleedHero

jade complete in clicking 🙂

[delicate laurel]

damn how tf

[thin dawn]

idk i guess i just like static

[thin dawn]

S3 | 677/800 - NoseBleedHero

ok got jade complete in switching, now gotta work on tracking haha

[thin dawn]

S3 | 702/800 - NoseBleedHero

plat complete done

S3 | 721/800 - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

S3 | 732/800 - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

3075 for masters 😦

[thin dawn]

after day1, i dont count yesterday cuz i was awake for 24 hours. 🙂 only 3 for jade complete

S3 | 773/800 - NoseBleedHero

[delicate laurel]

almost master in one day sheesh

[thin dawn]

:)#

[thin dawn]

gave up on steadytrack

this thing is a monster

S3 | 782/800 - NoseBleedHero

[long glacier]

oh damn yall trying the new season?

so many tasks brah tf

[thin dawn]

Well i quit my job today, so im gonna be self employed as a filmmaker on august, so i might just quit gaming at all just to make sure everything runs well and not to waste that much time on aiming 🙂‍↕️

[thin dawn]

nice

[delicate laurel]

following your passion i respect that

good luck

[vapid elbow]

Fingers crossed mate ❤️

Have fun doing what you love 🙂

[thin dawn]

fkn did it that one was hard

[thin dawn]

tyty ❤️

[thin dawn]

i will thank you ❤️

got 6/18 on masters

12 more to go

[thin dawn]

nah im malding

10 points off masters

nice

another one

S3 | 788/800 - NoseBleedHero

getting there

[delicate laurel]

crazy

[thin dawn]

another one

S3 | 797/800 - NoseBleedHero

[delicate laurel]

damn chill your gonna get master complete before i get diamond complete 💀

[thin dawn]

bearly got it

[delicate laurel]

i need to grind later

[thin dawn]

S3 | 802/900 - NoseBleedHero

im master now 🙂

[thin dawn]

holy the exact points

[thin dawn]

thats it for today

leapswitch and steadytrack might just be the 2 hardest scenarios from this benchmark

tomorow will be tracking day 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/excited-happy-racoon-clap-slowly-barely-clap-gif-14134474

[quaint tapir]

wassup goofy goober

checkin in

[thin dawn]

Huh?

[thin dawn]

@winter wren in my opinion aiming is just a small part of the game wich you need to become a well rounded player

Its only really profitable if you play at a really high level

[winter wren]

im certain you can rush trough most of the lower ranks with just aim -

pro's or rather high elo players win from what i see their most games in lower divisions by just purely outaiming their oponnents - especially since to them the lower elo player havent got a scooby to what theyre doing xD

idk these playlits are not easy thats for sure

[thin dawn]

Actually i had a lot of struggle when i was jade in gold 4 rank. Outaiming everyone but game knowladge was lacking and most improtatint i missed so many bullets and made it harder to aim for myself because of movement and also beeing a really easy target for the enemy

[thin dawn]

I dont think they just simply out aim them, theres way more happening then just aiming in a gunfight

[winter wren]

it is true that when the other parts of the game are like really underdeveloped you still tend to struggle

[thin dawn]

I play apex a lot and i improved from jade to gm with my aim but at the same time my aim in game is worse just because i stopped practicing in firing range my movement

From my experience movement is 50% of your aim threw out 8k hours of fps and different type of games

And even in cs its way more importaint then in other games

[winter wren]

that is kinda weird because skill you once aquired is still there and if rusty will still come back really fast - i used to surf alot (still do now) and my movement is back as it was

[thin dawn]

Jeah but your memmory play a huge role within that, in a game 100 things happend at the same time so if its not fully automatic and you will need to focus on it you will be worse

[winter wren]

we will see in a couple kovaak hours i cann tell more for now i can barely reach plat

[winter wren]

thats why you solely allawys only focus on the game - focusing on the other things will not make it better and make everything else game dependend worse - if u aim like that rn then thats what you got no point in focusing on it

its hard but

[thin dawn]

Well i am focusing on the gunfight in that cass

How i think off it its the same like someone who is really good at static but bad with ts or tracking, its imo not a good aimer

Same with the game someone who was a lack of game knowladge positioning and utillity has major weaknesses and is more easy to fight against then someone who is decent in all of them skills

Like if you would do a point system giving aim 10 positioning 3 and util 3 he will lose against someone who ha 6aim 5 positioning and 5 utility.
Of course the aiming guy can win but within 100 matches he will have a win rate below 50%

So hes lacking of consistency, because one match positioning will be more importaint than in an pther for example

[tall tusk]

aim 10 will always win, if you mean aim in terms of cs aim, and not aim trainer aim

aim on cs is more than just point clicking, crosshair placement is really important and if you cant spray then you will lose most duels 😄

[thin dawn]

Nah i loose all the time to bad aimers 😮

Winning gunfights does not mean you will win a game its way more, kills have impact and by choosing bad impact fights you will hurt your team more then you win.

If you guys really feel that way learn me how to carry with only aim but i cant do it

[tired pivot]

Not true

look at donk

he kills 2-3 people wherever he is

every position he's on brings impact for team

[thin dawn]

Well donk litterly has a whole team playing arround him

[tired pivot]

if you have 10% of his skill you can solo carry ur faceit pugs

with just openers

[tall tusk]

i doubt you lose duels on long range, its likely you taking your time trying to tap and getting sprayed down by a guy on close-mid range 😄

[thin dawn]

But donk has not crazy aim, hes really good and better then i am but hes just calm and does little tricks wich winns him gunfights

Theres just wayyyyyy more going into donk then just aim

[tired pivot]

his xhair placement is top class close/or better to niko

which is like half of aim

in cs

[thin dawn]

I do because most people pre aim me and im easy to read.

[tired pivot]

and micro adjust

[thin dawn]

Yep but you will not practice that within aimtrainers

Its legit game knowladge

[tired pivot]

kovak helped me with fluid mouse movement

when i clear things

whats ur goal for cs?

[thin dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWHZnyKqAY

[thin dawn]

kinda none anymore haha

i was a tarkov player back in the day, after i got iinto apex now i just play for fun

[tired pivot]

ok I read a bit what everyone said, it's not only about being a smart player or aimer, on high lvl it's everything at once. And if you click heads better than everyone on server then you'll literally win your games

With a bit more experience it gets easier to use your aim

[thin dawn]

yep its about beeing well rounded, like donk is within every skill

just aim is just one tool

and if donk would have only insane aim he would just die every round ill tell you that

[tired pivot]

last time i checked he ran out mid on Mirage and killed everyone

[thin dawn]

thats how it looks but theres just way more going on

[winter wren]

it really isnt if you know youre better youre legit running out and clicking

people are trying to find things that arent there - counterstrqfing and aiming where peolpe might be is not hard - being that much better abd puttkng people in the dirt vecause u can is

there might be a flash or somenthing small but in the end ist peek adjust kill thats it

[tired pivot]

whats ur peak lvl in faceit?

[winter wren]

even the lowest bobs can counterstafe

even them sometimes find where to aim

[thin dawn]

well if you think of that sure do it but you completly forget the hunan aspec, we are not robots

[thin dawn]

8

[winter wren]

especially when theres 1000 videos to it

[winter wren]

well i cant bcs my aim sucks luckily am somewhat decent in the other aspects

and in losing to absolut dummies with better aim🤷🏾‍♀️

thats just how it is

[tired pivot]

it gets way, way, way easier when you get deeper understanding of game

[tall tusk]

maybe on low levels its thats it 😄 you also have to make yourself hard to hit, as you're really easy target if you only do what you say

[thin dawn]

well you just gotta be well rounded, and what you need is aim i guess, but aiming alone does not carry you

[tired pivot]

it's just about thinking the game differently, and knowing basic concepts

average faceit player doesnt do it

[winter wren]

im not sure what you guys or how much ypu played

[tall tusk]

i'm 2600 elo on faceit

[winter wren]

but in ganes like cs or valo where its decided by one bullet or a wuick spray

[tired pivot]

hovering around 2200-2400

[winter wren]

there is no "hard to hit"

[thin dawn]

i was preatty good at apex, played against a lot of pros and in that game for example you dont need good aim, your strafing is way more importaint. making yourself hard to hit while making the enemy easyer to hit is a key factor of apex

[tall tusk]

yes there is 😄

[winter wren]

you see you counter strafe u shoot

if that fight goes for more that 5-6 bullets youre both terrible

im sorry but

[tall tusk]

lol

[winter wren]

this is not apex

[thin dawn]

watch that vid

pls

[winter wren]

zheres no moving and flying aroubd

so i checked like the first 5min of the video

youre telling me peolpe dont know that theyre not supposed to stand still shopting somebody? is that his big secret?@thin dawn

[thin dawn]

https://youtu.be/AbWHZnyKqAY?si=vcWKTmD87XQT0tcS&t=415

watch from there

@winter wren

[winter wren]

like i really dont know what im supposed to do with this informations

[thin dawn]

well donk doges bullets mid gunfights

against the best team in the world at that time

face

faze

lul

[winter wren]

zhe rain example was stupid becaude his xhair placement was bad - he expected a wide peek in slope?

donk is not sodging bullets lmao

its what

you are not supposed to stand still why is this video acting as this wasnt know since css?

[thin dawn]

are you watching the same video

wtf

[winter wren]

if this is new to u or u believe other pros dont do this i dont know what to tell u

[thin dawn]

well in csgo you should be standing still 4 sure

[winter wren]

what

are u crazy

people where crabwalking in css

because its a hard shot to hit

[thin dawn]

and even if hes still dogding bullets mid gundfight making himself harder to hit

or else standing still is more easy

[winter wren]

he IS NOT DODGING can we stop please

well technicaly but

[thin dawn]

wym hes literly saying that

in the video

[winter wren]

its dtupid to call it that

ye the guy in the video

[thin dawn]

what else is he doing

[winter wren]

is recycling other 1000 videos about the same thing

welcome to youtube

[thin dawn]

pressing ctrl for fun?

[tall tusk]

it wasn't a thing on csgo. if you did his movement on csgo, you'd be inaccurate

[winter wren]

crabwalking was

[tall tusk]

so yes this is new 😄

you are very easy to hit crabwalking

[winter wren]

crouching to avoid headshot was

no no youre not lol

[tall tusk]

yes you are

[winter wren]

better is to a shoot

d

but its super effectice in 1vs1 for instance

[thin dawn]

hes moving and croutching tho

[winter wren]

no youre not youre a moving taeget even if your head is easier to hit

[winter wren]

y thats crabwalking

[thin dawn]

like i dont care anymore haha, just do what you want i guess

[winter wren]

theres like a video of n0thing speaking about this that was waaay back early csgo

[thin dawn]

https://youtu.be/FAdJnTQBUXQ?si=1rPZfp_XHXCRPLBH&t=21

[winter wren]

no i just dont like these recycled everbody does the same videos for years

that is not crabwalking..

[tall tusk]

donk put up the highest rating of all time in tournament abusing that movement

after that, everyone copied his movement

go on dm, everyone is doing the same 😄

[winter wren]

i really dont know what exactly u think youre seing

[tall tusk]

making yourself hard to hit

[winter wren]

but donks best trait against the others is him being significantly younger than them

[tall tusk]

but i think youre baiting now

[winter wren]

having faster reaction time

[tall tusk]

so good bye

[winter wren]

no i just really dont have a dcooby

[thin dawn]

[winter wren]

this is not what i ment with crabwalking

[winter wren]

makes a huge diffrence being 17

[thin dawn]

well that is crabwalking my friend

[winter wren]

more attention span

that was a troll strat

crabwalking is

[thin dawn]

nope playing on stage for 10 years makes a huge difference

[winter wren]

it reaöly does not

other teams have significantly more experience than him

and hes shitting on them

m0nesy

did the same and is still doing it

[thin dawn]

jeah cuz you learn faster as a kid

but not reaction time pls haha

[winter wren]

this is not new at all😂😂😂 n0thing legit explains this

and his video is atleast 5 year old

[thin dawn]

show me the vid

[winter wren]

what you have much better reaction time when youre young

[thin dawn]

i swear i was even looking for it

[winter wren]

why do you think proffessional athlese are usually young and quit bevor 30 except some legends

[thin dawn]

Looking at some research on this, age does make you slower to react but not by that much. 2-6 milliseconds per decade for one research and 10 milliseconds per year (time between fixing the screen to a spot and reacting to what is happening in StarCraft 2, so not exactly reaction time) for the other. Taking the first figure as it is more explicitly reaction time; you would be playing your games from a retirement home before reaching the same delay from peak as what is considered pretty good ping.

Moreover, I just don't think that many games prioritize reaction times. Sure, it's a advantage in competitive games, but even then a few milliseconds difference won't be making a huge difference in the enjoyment of a game. In single player games it's even more insignificant, the reaction windows tend to be huge if you know what you are looking for. It's more about knowing what to be looking for that reacting to it quickly.

literly the first thing i found on google

becuase reaction time does decrease when you are getting older but not tilll like 28 or so, donk has not a big rection time difference to other players

[winter wren]

https://youtu.be/3eUlLCXVSlk?si=PJWk9pcmRB8DuMbB

here he briefly talks sbout ducking in thats the "tap crouch" what youve seen in the other video

[thin dawn]

https://youtu.be/AbWHZnyKqAY?si=cnxQSlS6GwQ1rJw7&t=53

litterly dubble the reactiontime then frozen in that game

talented reaction time

[winter wren]

there is a better one i might find later but this video alone is 8years old

its just the same shit recyled

reaction time is a big deal lol

i do not where u got that how much it slows down

but being able to shoot first in a game where 1 bullet decides the fight

is a huge deal

[thin dawn]

ur troling right?

imma end this discustion right here lul

[winter wren]

what exactly is troll about that?

[thin dawn]

watch your video with subtitles and write everything into a google doc pls haha.

[winter wren]

why would i do that

[thin dawn]

to UNDERSTAND

[winter wren]

there is a better video of him but its only about the ducking part

the other he talks about practice what you want to practice

[thin dawn]

.

i cant tell you cuz you not gonna belive me

just do what you need to do

[winter wren]

yoi can

i skipped over most of the video because theres really one part i wanted to show or rather show that people talked about it way bevor

let me guess he says dodge ?

[thin dawn]

like i said watch the whole video, write it down into a google doc, and read that

that will help 🙂

[winter wren]

oh please

ur not trying to go at where he said competetive is not about 1vs1

where he pulled back and said it is in pro lvl

[thin dawn]

nah thats not it

[winter wren]

okay i finished and still not certain what youre trying to say

if its not the part about making yourself an advantage what could it possible be

[thin dawn]

well he litterly says croutching is bad and you probably do it to much

haha

[winter wren]

if you just crouch and stand there yes

right after that he talks about tapping crouch which is exactly somebthing from the other video🤦🏾‍♀️

avoiding that first headshot

or the "real" crabwalk

[thin dawn]

i know that clip its in inferno and its a tatic he uses when he repeaks the same corner

[winter wren]

what who

[thin dawn]

and its still not the same like dont

donk

[winter wren]

what tactic?

[thin dawn]

hes tapping crouch while strafing to be accurate while moving

nothing is not moving when crouching

[winter wren]

tap crouch is to crouch into a corner its not the samce concept

or rather not for the same fight

tapping crouch in a straight fiight is either when youre getting shot at in a straught 1vs1 to avoid a hs or bcs the other one is doing it

crouching inti an angle is because peope hold angles at a head lvl

[vapid elbow]

And here I am, sitting excited AF because G2 signed SNAX ❤️

[winter wren]

so he has to pull doen

damn snax still playing?

[vapid elbow]

yeah XD

[winter wren]

wtf

isnt ge like 35?

[vapid elbow]

Taz was a stand in in one of the matches agains DONK xD

that was crazy 😄

[thin dawn]

oh really thats nice

G2 is my fav

[winter wren]

feel bad for him

donk is on deamon time

being young means so fucking much

[vapid elbow]

Yeah :d But I believe that G2 will be extremely hard to defeat next season

on the other hand faze ain't bad

astralis is powerfull as well

so it's going to be AMAZING

[winter wren]

is stew staying with g2?

[vapid elbow]

nope

[winter wren]

unfort

[vapid elbow]

hunter, niko, snax, monesy and malbsmd

btw @thin dawn thanks for review <3. gonna reply after practice 🙂

[thin dawn]

wait hooxi is benched holy moly

thats gonna be interesting

[winter wren]

m0nesy gona carry anyway

kid is crazy

[thin dawn]

no worries brother man

i wanna see niko igl

[vapid elbow]

nope. Snax gonan be igl

gonna*

[thin dawn]

@winter wren can i ask your cs rank and ur age if im allowed

[thin dawn]

okok snax is also good one

[thin dawn]

for context im trying to get better as a "coach" and since my explanation might be to bad for this topic im wondering if it could just be a main different thinking from age or so and i wanna learn how i can be better next time 🙂

[winter wren]

see i lts not coaching or anything

[vapid elbow]

VT NoseBleedHero incoming? 😎🤞

[winter wren]

but i really dislike this epidemic of the same recyled videos about movement, xhair olacement and aim

for yt views

[thin dawn]

i know thats why i put it in "", but im trying to improve and i think that was an very interesting discustion, wich i want to improve on

[winter wren]

and it works

donk realisticly saying is just better

peeks better aims better is younger

theres a whole clip i tried to find about stewie on a clip m0nesy did

[thin dawn]

well i guess thats just your thinking then

[winter wren]

his legit words were "wait a coupke years and he will start missing those"

[vapid elbow]

I wasnt laughing

[winter wren]

the videos are out there there really isnt anything to prove🤷🏾‍♀️

[thin dawn]

and nah im not in contact with any VT member

[thin dawn]

well what you even try to proove i didnt ask for anything

i have mine thinking and you yours, thats fine

human have different understanding of things

[vapid elbow]

Ah ok 😄 but if you dont mind I can be your Guinea pig 😄

[thin dawn]

whats a guinea

[vapid elbow]

Like testing rat for your coaching in aimlabs 🙂

[thin dawn]

oh nah ill probably not take it that seriously, but maybe in the future i might start a coaching for filmmaking and trying to sell it so i guess its good experience i can collecto on the way

[winter wren]

that ramp fight in the video is probably a prime exampke of how aim wins a fight and had nothing to do with sodging🤷🏾‍♀️

[thin dawn]

listen the discustion is over

wow thats the reason i help others 🥰

[winter wren]

correcting quickly somenthing i said: making yourself less of a target is ofc correct just the concepts arent new

[thin dawn]

@thorn jacinth and solo im above

[thorn jacinth]

@quiet elbow get your get back

[quiet elbow]

we're out here playing novice???

still??

[thorn jacinth]

sometimes you gotta go back to little league to show the kids you still got it ya know

[thin dawn]

nah i wanted that one 😦

got it to masters tho

another one

fk i need 2675

rip

[thin dawn]

i just needed some sleep

S3 | 0/900 - NoseBleedHero

S3 | 0/900 13|18 - NoseBleedHero

S3 | 0/900 -GM / 13|18 Master Complete - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

If you guys have fundamental skills like smoothness for example. What else would be a fundamental what you need like in every scenario?

[vapid elbow]

Micros? No matter what you do (in aiming ofc) you have to be able to micro-correct all the time. What do you think? Does that counts as fundamental?

[delicate laurel]

flick technique

micros would probably fall under that

[thin dawn]

hmm probably

like flick technique is more advanced but also used kinda in every scenario

[thin dawn]

bro 6th time over 3300

W

S3 | 0/900 -GM / 14|18 Master Complete - NoseBleedHero

@weak hull im comming for ya

close one

got it

S3 | 0/900 -GM / 15|18 Master Complete - NoseBleedHero

[weak hull]

god damn i got smoked on temposwitc

my brain just doesnt get that one

[thin dawn]

any vods? i might be able to help 🙂

[weak hull]

naw im not stuck yet

im gonna try some strats fayble gave me today

already hit a small pb from it

[thin dawn]

👀

i need them

for GM

[thin dawn]

Also there 2 more dots feel so hard

i cant get more right now, the last ones are fkn hard 😮

[rough juniper]

This one is all about target priority, if you choose the right targets it's almost like pokeswitch but with easier requirements

[thin dawn]

Jeah but since the ttk is more high its sctually getting really hard, what i learned is to not shoot the targets at the apex, more to shoot them when they go up wich makes consistent flicks really hard

[rough juniper]

Apex should work too, if you are struggling to track downwards there was a scenarion in evasive vdim for s2, where the ball just moves up and down, it might be helpful. I think the whole section for arcswitch translates very good to this scenario

[thin dawn]

Ok ill check that out for sure 🙂 ty

[rough juniper]

Or maybe the up-down was for minitrack, I'm not sure, but the arcswitch vdim is still good

[slender valve]

🙏🏿

[thin dawn]

any tips for this one? with the 3rd bot i feel crazy tensed up but i cant chill down some how. feels weared after the 2nd bot

this one is really hard

NOTES: tracking the bot smoothly and with a good speed will make it more easy to react to the bot movmemnt

Small flicks and also smooth flicks will be esential when the bot changes direction a lot of times

nah its not over 😦

[thin dawn]

beeing further away from your monitor will make it more easy to react to movment changes

[thin dawn]

did it

finally

hard one to do it

S3 | 0/900 -GM / 16|18 Master Complete - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

NOTE: imma need to practice smoothness on high sens

[thin dawn]

bro has 50% acc at this task wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PtneVicb_Q

hes cheating 4 sure wtf

[weak hull]

lou just posted a 3k WR on this in gen

[thin dawn]

holy

cant do it

ok wtf never mind

another one

got it

S3 | 0/900 to GM - Master Complete done - NoseBleedHero

[delicate laurel]

built different

[weak hull]

That’s a real short list of ppl that look like this rn good job

[thin dawn]

trying gm scores is really big step tho. its not the same like it was with the old one

[thin dawn]

holy shit gaming is just not fun anymore

fkn multiplayer games man

[weak hull]

naw gaming got even more fun for me after i did aim training

my 1v2s, 1v1s, and beams are just so clean now

[thin dawn]

i just cant enjoy any games anymore idk.

like played apex, found 5 cheaters, game crashed 3 times and got 4 matches with packet loss.

idk but i wanna play the game and dont figure all this bullshit out

• its all not fixable btw

[thin dawn]

the first half is really good of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRDWX289kB0

i just saw a video and it says perfect aim is Calm, Comfident and focused. with theese 3 things you will be more quick. Comfident just comes with time. For Focus always make sure you are healthy and Calm is just how much pressure and tension you use. I think thats a really big part of aiming

also comfident will improve by working on your weak points

[weak hull]

Ya apex is a fairly even blend between weapon handling and raw aim

U would get a lot out of a session with me on weapon handling it’s a special focus of mine for apex

[thin dawn]

a coaching session with ben? 😮

[weak hull]

Ya we could do most of the stuff u need to know in like 1-2 hours

Makes a huge difference in understanding how apex works

[thin dawn]

u wanna hop in rn? but i know a lot about the game i have 1,5k hours, so idk if it actually helps. I know stuff like recoil smoothing and all this yt stuff haha

[weak hull]

Depends

How much time have you spent understanding weapon fall off and recoil patterns

A lot of ppl really only have a superficial understanding of how weapon recoil works and how to control for it

[thin dawn]

i would say im decent, but when i dont practice it every day, i just miss my shots becuase of strafe patterns and stuff

[weak hull]

I can’t get on rn tho

Maybe in a few hours

Naw I explain recoil in a really intuitive way

Apex is abt learning how to translate raw aim into weapons

So that you can just focus on Beams

[thin dawn]

okok

im listening

🙂

also im building a koovaks playlist for fundamental aim, wich practice that. What scenarios you think i should look into?

[weak hull]

Up to you tbh

There’s 1000 other ones that already exist

I won’t presume I have the ego to think I know better than pros

[thin dawn]

what you mean, like you say they know better what you need for your aim?

like i create it for myself kinda. so i have something to grind when i dont focus on benchmarks

[weak hull]

Correct

There’s too much I don’t know yet

And the stuff I do know is superficial and lacks experience

[thin dawn]

jeah same, but i know what i need to practice no?

[weak hull]

I would rather trust someone with 4-8x the hours

And Astra

[weak hull]

Well it depends because you know how to practice aim for aim’s sake

Practicing ‘fundamentals’ usually means tying your routine to a game

I like a lot of the routines Kovaaks has for specific games

There’s scens specifically designed for immersion in game relevant scenarios

Like shotguns, or shooting targets on an octane pad

On the other hand

Personally selecting a playlist lets you mold it to your needed difficulty

[thin dawn]

im gonna try to make one that focuses on fundamentals of aim. like smoothness, static technique and reading. not for a game or so. For aimtrainers

i think i could get my skills up that way and push them to the next level.

so i figured imma try it out

[thin dawn]

nice

[thin dawn]

im practicing my wrist off, my training lately goes hardd

[thin dawn]

first day on the roller

haha

[thin dawn]

hit a trompet clip

first day on roller btw

[weak hull]

Imo good mnk aim makes you good on roller

Because it teaches you what good reactivity looks like

[thin dawn]

bro i cant aim shit on roller

like no cap its fkn op

[thin dawn]

shit is crazy

[weak hull]

Ya u just get to kill ppl for free

It’s pretty sad

[thin dawn]

It is what it is, as long as cs is controller free im good with it.

Alltho i gotta say i think controller aiming is a real thing and i think you could get up to masters with it

Maybe not in every scenario but almost

Even static feels duable

[thin dawn]

youtube.com/watch?v=A0OQLg-56_0

might be the best technique yet

imo

he combines bardoz method with smoothness like zeonlo and combines it perfect imo

[thin dawn]

my current koovaks sheet, working on masters complete

some hard tasks man

[thin dawn]

bruh theese advanced tasks are just too big of ajump from masters

[delicate laurel]

i haven’t even tried em yet

been avoiding them lol

what energy u at now on advanced

[thin dawn]

684

havent played every scenario yet

[delicate laurel]

jeez

if your struggling that much with em then im fucked lol

[thin dawn]

Jeah its fucked

[thin dawn]

S3 | 686/900 to GM - Master Complete done - NoseBleedHero

[thin dawn]

Ok guys, so i hace no job anymore and im almost self employed, probably gona sell my pc soon

[eager mantle]

is everything alright?

[thin dawn]

Ye just too much work, gonna step down from gaming

[delicate laurel]

[thin dawn]

Things gonna change and we all grow 🙏🏻 aiming has never been the thing i wanted in my life just a learning experience for me 🥹 a really good one