hard agree.time to go back to quake live
#games don't feel fun
robust gust
robust gust
- VERY old game so unlikely to ever get a bad patch
- community-managed pure Elo system for ranked
- very raw-mechanics oriented, extremely fair, no bullshit hero abilities
- duels
- perfect engine
winter totem
Yeah, games like CSGO and Quake Live are transferable in a sense. They have aspects to your overall gameplay you can apply to almost any other game. At least that's how I feel.
leaden condor
I think i agree with legit everything here ive been jumping around so much i just want something that i wake up and want to play
marsh kernel
mostly that
i just don't find enjoyment in games made by riot games
everything feels weird broken or made in super easy mode for casuals
played for a while
MEH experience mostly e daters and people getting carried / elo boosted
no offense to anyone that has an online relationship don't get me wrong
like the skill gap between gold and ascendant barely exists rofl
you've played cs before yeah ?
you know about MM and faceit ?
ok perfect
^
compare 3 ranks
from gold to diamond
and from lem to global
and from level 3 faceit to level 6 faceit
tell me which one has a noticeable skill gap
think i was plat off of my placements with ascendant mmr LMAO
because you start getting placed in lobbies with people that play 8+ hours a day
or pros
or people like tarik etc etc
old overwatch system which basically was low SR master and high SR master
completely different game
i'll take your word for it
that's what i meant
still t2 pros and famous content creators
are still people that play8+ hours a day
have some form of practice
etc etc
roughly yeah
i'll never get there because i don't find the game fun to begin with lmao
riot makes games which are basically money printers
off of skins
and battle passes
they are fun don't get me wrong
sliding with neon is just super fucking fun for me for example
but just because i find 2 characters kits fun won't make me enjoy the mechanics of the game
or the culture in it
or the community
that feeling exists in csgo as well
or mostly any tac fps
you're 100% right because you can't always establish roles with 4 randoms
with different egos
and skill levels
knowledge etc etc
which valo made a system for it which sorta made it into easy mode
i never played siege
when i had the money for it
i found it that i had to download 90 gigs
that would never happen with my internet
so i never got into it
it looks really complex and a well made game
marsh kernel
i found it that i had to download 90 gigs
this stops me tho
i saw some highlights of people that play it here from the #439237455053455360
think i saw some gameplay on youtube
C R I S P
wait lemme check him out
meatymarley /
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3.4m subs
got the fitz vibe
LMAO
you enjoying apex this season
like previous ones ?
ow has been hell lmao
ah
^
don't really have people to play with
idk if you'd care but this was my experience with csgo and friends lmao
i don't want to ever deal with that LMAO
dusk bolt
wz will always be called terrible —the cod community cannot agree on what they want because theyre a spectrum of different weirdos
ow is ow and is pretty team reliant a lot of the time but can be pretty enjoyable if you are a good aimer
same case with apex and destiny has been goofy for a long time
(im biased on this) but i used to have the same attitude towards val, and have the same opinion on cs (1300hours cs) i switched to val and got into it, and the climb is super satisfying imo you just gotta get good at it and get into the games differences
marsh kernel
think my opinion is more biased lmao
marsh kernel
cs lowkey brainwashed me as a tacfps player
LITERALLY
robust gust
modern games are made around engagement. They want as many customers as possible to play their game as much as possible to maximise microtransactions.
One of the cascading effects of this is that it affects balance, matchmaking and rank systems extremely negatively for highly competitive tryhard players; they are explicitly built to keep the engagement of the casual player and the free-to-play gamehopper who plays a different game every other day without committing to one.
This is why you don't see true elo systems, always a hidden MMR with a vanity rank over the top of it. this is the direction all games are going now unfortunately and finding a genuinely fair competitive experience is basically impossible unless you go to much older games like Quake and its community-made elo system for duels.
marsh kernel
modern games are made around engagement. They want as many customers as possible...
literally that
every game dev sees people as money printers and they tend to the casual
that'll drop some cash here and there for cosmetics battle passes
seasonal items
robust gust
literally worried than M+K shooters are gunna die in the next 10 years as everything tends toward crossplay + controller
marsh kernel
for example in OW pharah's ult charge been broken since release
marsh kernel
junkrat 2 shots anyone almost
braindead characters are strong
because new comers won't be able to pull off a god tier tracer
while some fucker holding mouse 1
with junkrat will get satisfaction lmao
robust gust
OW is casual only now
marsh kernel
literally ^
robust gust
the rank system is just quickplay with a badge
dusk bolt
carried every game and made impact consistently without fail between matches and stayed stuck because i swear 50% of people are throwers/braindead/toxic
marsh kernel
i swear i hate cs playerbasr
toxicity braindead fucks throwers griefers and the occasional 13 year old that thinks he's simple
icing on the cake
but you can not say that valve games ( dota and cs) are currently among the most complex games
hard to get into
harder to master
robust gust
we need a game dev who isn't afraid to implement a true elo system and stick to their guns against whining casuals who feel bad about seeing number go down
marsh kernel
skill ceiling is way too fucking high
dusk bolt
switching to esea where people are actually good because theyve been playing for like a decade put it into perspective
faceit is just mm v2 unless ur premium
dusk bolt
yeah
shit pissed me off because imo cs is so much easier to master but these people are so inefficient at it
marsh kernel
sometimes prem is worse than free i swear to god LMAO
dusk bolt
recoil makes you a robot at shooting
marsh kernel
shit pissed me off because imo cs is so much easier to master but these people a...
gotta disagree with you there ngl
dusk bolt
sometimes prem is worse than free i swear to god LMAO
😭
actually wait lemme rephrase that
easier to crutch things
and then become skilled truly
marsh kernel
and then become skilled truly
this is a different story
because the skill gap is way too high between players
dusk bolt
yeah
marsh kernel
you'll kinda get the hang of everything within 800 hours
LMAO
then you're fucked for another 4k 
dusk bolt
oh yeah
robust gust
like, repetitive monotonous memorization i mean
dusk bolt
yknow theres this real human on faceit
robust gust
nade spots, recoil patterns, purchase build orders etc
marsh kernel
there's a lot of memorization in cs imo
valo made that disappear
RNG spray
point click smokes
point click flashes
robust gust
yeah
marsh kernel
the guy is 100 elo too
dusk bolt
when not dced he is just shit anyway
marsh kernel
🤣
robust gust
lol
solar quiver
Fully agreed. I reinstalled Fortnite today and no-build has been a ton of fun. It's very mechanically demanding and the movement allows for a pretty decent skillgap. Plus the custom games section is really well-designed. Gonna keep playing it until Epic inevitably ruins it also.
winter totem
Oh yeah on the topic of Siege, you can disable the ultra textures addon, which drops the install size a fair bit. Haven't played in a while though.
Destiny 2s good. You can be competitive in terms of pve and pvp, or one or the other. Warframe is also good but it's pve centric.
OW2 can be fun with the variety of different gameplay styles with different characters.
Can't go wrong with CSGO.
sick pebble
Yeah they all suck now nothing funs anymore Roblox: Bad Buisness is unironically the best fps game out rn but gets stale bc you're playing against 8yo
robust gust
Yeah they all suck now nothing funs anymore Roblox: Bad Buisness is unironically...
yes no yes maybe yes yes no no no no
sick pebble
yes no yes maybe yes yes no no no no
You say no bc thats u 💀
maiden breach
I'm gonna +1 the Bad Business suggestion, it's actually pretty good and fun.
Overall it's good to take a break sometimes and just do something else, in the end you could just be burnt out. If you love gaming and competing, then at some point you're going to want to come back and hopefully things will feel fresh again.
shy chasm
if you want something that is, I highly recommend Mass Effect trilogy
its not strong on mechanics, but its a sci-fi RPG from a decade ago, still very playable
all three in one package, otherwise known as the Legendary Edition came out last year
better graphics
people still haven't found all the possibilities in it (i.e. result of an action) to this day
winter totem
Cyberpunk 77 is pretty playable now. Night and day compared to its launch. Worth checking out.
marsh kernel
Cyberpunk 77 is pretty playable now. Night and day compared to its launch. Worth...
the download isn't something i can go through with my internet lol
winter totem
Are you on a limited plan?