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Gonnq start streaming my awful aim
How tf do i set up my mic it sounds like ass
Are earbuds not usable?😂
Shit sounds like im whispering😭
get a headset blud
✌️
u can use earbuds if u have seperate mic
quack quack
We love pasu here 🥰
You are missing system clock in your VODs
can someone link me the valorant voltaic benchmarks I can't get it to pop up on the web browser
I dont sadly
im tryna get my account back atm
Might just use headset
even viscose called me that 😢
i might play in the next few days
bro 😭
damn
thats tough, plink plaza boy
atleast matty didnt call me it
i hope u get better soon
so its not true
he will
im bout to make a kovak account
at one point
hi furry!
NO HE WONT
IM NOT FURRY
matty hasnt
you gon help me set it up @floral brook
Its best streaming with obs right
yes
https://app.voltaic.gg/benchmarks should be able to access the playlists here
Assess your aim, track progress, participate in the leaderboards
who up plinking they plazas
@floral brook my heart you gon help me make a kovak account?
Im more respectful I'll say plaza plinka
did u ping the wrong joey
nah i pinged you g
LIE
UR THE FURRY
shut up tail wagger 😊
thats bebop
ok lmk
will do
youre a furry joey
NO UR THE FURRY
U got gm?
guys speaking about the whole gold-plat master-gm thing i think it might just be because of the transitions
maybe vt has horrible transitions
Good job @floral spindle coach me in pasu gm later
cus viscoses transitions are way better
gm is easy
meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
Welp this is a sure fire way to break a man’s heart
she smash on my bros til i super
like u can be seal and when u try the medium ig section ur gonna be 2 ranks in the first time u try
crikey fair dinkum
smashed his bro
fuck you @sour totem
ignore ski coaching in the back he jsut kind of chill like that
should i just my hien soft or type99 soft on val rni cant stop switching LOL
the tuff ssbm luigi vs the noob ssbu luigi
hien soft clears
use the raiden mid
or even better
a glass pad
on like
120cm
sens
i have a glass pad and play 128cm
god
you wish
but im on my hien rn
thats too many cms
Oh, my bad. When I read the #submissions channel, I didn’t find anything mentioning this, so I didn’t know it was important.
wait actually before I grief myself further, what exactly do I need for vods
how is ur name like that
damn thats rough
Lou can u send me eddiets vod
Be careful what you wish for
💸
feet cam
#submissions bro
it's literally right there reikuro
:)
47cm
OP1 8k
Otsu V2
RIP SHIDENKAI V2, YOU WILL BE MISSED
meow
Okay thanks
For pathing what r u thinking abt or r u just full sending it?
VOD Checklist
- 720p or above.
- 60 fps
- Session & Challenge timer
- System clock
- Leaderboard visible at the end
- Best score from each subcategory, including ones that are not GM
fuck you I dont want to read
I have session timer
I dont think I tought when I played Eddie
wtf
i'd never
Just focused on tracking and landings?
time scaler spotted
nowadays i rarely think about pathing, i guess its pretty intuitive
yes
let the witch hunt begin
Ig when ur that good it’s just first nature
Also when u flick it seems like u barely flick to close targets but for far away ones u flick hard
Is that just instinct?
tho i'd turn on system clock and session timer
custom font
its clearly enough to judge if im time scaling
@cyan mantle Is there any way you could help me using just these VODs? It was really hard to get those scores haha, and I’m not even that good to be suspicious lol. Please, just these.
Ur master
U cheated to masters
Nice try buddy
No clock cheater
lol
./s
pls x-x
quick question am i supposed to hold down shoot when doing Pokeball
yikes
its pretty apparent
is this all I need
ok tyty
i mean i used to just think about pathing every single run, no matter what scen - for ages. At some point you just got it, i sometimes remind myself to stay towards the middle (in general on scenarios) but thats about it
need to flick fast to keep pace when targets are further I imagine; can be slower if the targets are grouped/clustering since it's easier to adjust to quickly elim them
i just hate tension
Yeh I’m not there yet 🤧
But I get what u mean thanks for da help cutie
At leas that's the reason I try not to hard flick idk if it's right
So many chuds in chat rn
Okay that makes sense
slower flicks have more reliable landings and are easier to chain
I lowkey flick rlly fast to close targets
What does chud even mean
damn so my previous run woulda been invalid anyway
To chain kills
But I’ll try going slower
What
I got my first gm
On what
M probably the worst one to coach
Also I might have to play flyts again
I don’t think I had timer
Have fun
On that
yeah lol
No
vod was invalid
Rippp
I mean I’m not applying either way
but we know what we need now so should be ok
😭
I have like every timer on
what is the system clock, how do u do that
What crosshair yall use im bored
So I had no issue
Just in hud settings
just clock under HUD
Dot
k
Which
There’s like session timer system clock and scenario timer
zeeqplus2, imbplus, plus, clover-ascended
Opdot
well for a close target youll arrive there fast even if you flick slow (because its so close), the only way to really fuck them up is by overflicking or messing up the tracking
Ahh and also it’ll help with tension management
I see I see
getting closer and closer by day
clover ascended hella fun
Then ima play it and pace 900
o7
I always just used zeeqplus2
Color?
Dark red
Aura
@potent sand enjoy the spa music invalid run since OBS didnt record full 60 seconds + no clock 
Lowkey dot for Eddie might be the move @floral spindle
I was pacing 1k on pay
The entire run
And then boom
I do 90 sec replay buffer
Pasu?
Yes
Isn’t that nova
Yep that’s nova
Im sure you can get them again. You dont have to beat your current highscore, just need high enough scores that meet the energy requirement
I got a huge pb
I think 940
I ended
Then I hopped on deadlock
Got the highest rank beside top 500
Sick run btw u can get it again so easy
And logged out
Yes I can
Because pasu is kinda easy
After you’ve played it
Not u
For some time
@fiery flume
U just need to get used to the scene
but I had some good glides
Rude.
damn
I'm learning that a lot of my current issues are ergonomics related
I'm finding the more I mess with my chair/desk, the more I PB
so I'm getting somewhere
instead of going back to overwatch they should have just called it overwatch 3 instead
ture
cant wait for overwatch 6 and 7
pls no
Overwatch ew
Artisan or Superglide Mousepad? What do yall prefer
skypad
Depends on the game you play ngl
artisan
Competitive tactical shooters
Artisan
If u get glass
Get polarity
Glassworks got best glass pads imo
fresh artisan just better
i mean realistically see what you prefer
True
but im always gonna say artisan over glass, no matter the game
Nothing faster than the Hien
louis how are u a celestial
Bro has a shidenkai
Lucky mf
in a way like u dont have the celestial branding
how many more cels are there
is that right?
id say so
i mean in the current season just matty and Azure
Whos azure
no its 2 ppl
matty is the next rank
this season(s) it's just matty and azure, but louis, waldo, lukyn, kev, juicer were all celestials in either kovaaks s4 or aimlaps s2
solara or some bullshit
dracoo too
damn thats a lot
dracoo is a cel?
was
Lou wtf happend to lorys
well was
Did he dissapear
Is azure dead
ask him
He's been 3 off celestial for a while
but i think azure mostly plays al
dunno if he mostly plays al but he got celestial in al s3
is there a snowi disciple
@snowi
@elder lichen
the other Celestial
ts not snowi
🤯
what I find insane is 3/4 are celestial complete
Bro was goated back then
easier to get celestial complete than just celestial I think
possinly he mightve gotten job
someone else is cel complete??????????????????????????????????????????
salzi newborn astra
yay
that's s4
uhhhhhhhh
salzi was astra in the womb
no one else is cel complete on s5
well i mean we have the whole year left
NOOOOO
someone got this
not really
Salzi made me try aimlabs then never touched ot again
5.5 is coming out soon iirc
not how the seasons work bro
what about him
zcn
everyone bro
next cel comp
@snow mountain hop on ratz?
ranks arent resetting
everyone is getting cel
are you gonna go for cel again louis
is it ok to have different grips based on the scenario i am playing?
as well can we freezcn?
not gonna try, if it happens it happens i guess
if he doesnt get banned for cheating..
im celestial
btw azure his AL Cel, 5.5 wont affect his rank
what are azures socials
simple
he just plays
dont think ive ever seen a message from him
idk about yall but im solara complete
i ve seen like one
legit
I've heard hes active elsewhere, but just not in the vt gen cesspool
how do you have more ranks
ive seen like 5 azure messages ever
evxl.app
if I want to get better tracking what do I do guys
that guy has aura
yeah i suppose viet will get Cel eventually
Thats fire
he def has what it takes
is it shutting down
as a speedswitching main, he has the capability of celestial static with work put into it
just gotta grind dynamic and static a bit and dynamic is like the easiest category ever so
riot games demonstrates that they are completely out of touch with the fighting games community
reducing team size
hydroboy is up there too
turns out fgc players don't want to deal with their shitty rotating shops and $100 skins
aim training aura tier list
guys do u think the elite section would stop matty?
or would he still get solara complete
no
wait until you hear about Lychy
damn
solara far off
brh too
but it hasn't stopped him
matty too daddy
original static aura farmer
alright bro
he's already gotten stellaris
ive seen him get 1 stellaris scroe
score
it looked INSANE
genuinely inhumane
i think it was pgt
bro said solara when he gets his skates
or something
😭
matty will not get Solara complete, like ever
Drink 2 monsters back to back
I don't think solara comp is even possible
so elite CAN stop him
damn
some scenarios are feasible
I think hes relatively close on aether
some are just straight impossible
souljahash can get it
hex to the rescue
he's a cheater
hes banned
hes a cheater?
its probably the rats theyre biting you
lol
sigh no one ever wants to give me actual advice bro
seriously tho i dont want that
practice tracking
@silk eagle
track
Use wrist tension for direction changes, arm tension for smooth tracking
which ones
riot games discovers when you release an anime fighting game you do not get a marketable cute asian tenz adjacent gamer as a poster boy and you actually get a mildly autistic black guy who shows up to every tournament in a fursuit and shits on everyone for the entirety of the game's lifespan
I don't have the genes
I am full for a very long time
you are WHAT now
You are better than me what
some say they don't have static genes
make a spot for a fellow like me 🥺
I don't have the tracking genes
im waiting for the riot games valorant universe mmo to come out that sounds fun
I can speak on static being relatively unachieveable at the current moment, jasper is the best small dots player and he is only stellaris on 1w2ts, and I think stellaris is max on ww5t too
You do NOT need my dumb help Hazel
nobody is going to play it
oh wow
well what would you know youre smoking crack
mmo players already have their favorite mmo
i need to become better then solja ash
youre welcome!
@timber idol did lychy disappear
they just released a fighting game that nobody is playing
make a spot for a fellow like me 🥺
that they spent years developing
well he only ever appeared for like a day
HAHAHAHA
and 1.0 released and they're already cutting the team
lychy just cel completed static
and badoom
well they have the valorant ip to lean on
average chinese kovaaks player
all static demons
Rust is the best game
valorant players play valorant
go ahead and just spam OW scens and lddh
so he just randomly popped up to get cel and ghosted
don't forget about raspberry
If anything I need coaching from you @vale sigil
Good luck gangnem
only static tho
My head hurts
okay
i mean ive got a friend of mine and he was glazing the shit out of him
pls unban zcn
just spins locked onto someone as if he tracking perfectly with 1cm/360
maybe that affected
hes good boy
well hes from china, discord is banned in china. He has 0 connections to the aim comm
no proof
Meanie
if theres no proof then well
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look at the views on this
7k views i'm crine
ive seen clips of his where he looks like hes blatantly locking
but idk
nobody gives a shit
you can only reliably finds some vods on bilibili
outside of some oneoffs on youtube
he has some youtube ones from ages ago
i got u
Yeah they are few and far between
yeah yeah but like yk what i mean
Lou do u coach
makes sense though
but every top player thinks his gameplay looks wrong and impossible
its basically seperate communities
unfortunate
damn
who has said that tho
either hes the biggest prodigy that every top player of every game he plays thinks hes cheating
why the fuck did riot games think they could make a popular fighting game
or hes cheating
Yeah, its quite a shame because I can imagine how insightful they are and how they could contribute in where they are strongest
true
every1
its like his word against theirs
Noyes Yesno.
and if every top player thinks hes cheating then hes prolly just cheating
Good to know
yesn't?
if you want advice just dm me or tag me in #1153030249198669884
always happy to help but i have no idea if my advice is good or not
yesn't indeed
submetry tracking or souljah tracking
Ur advice is good
but yeah i guess i technically do coach whenever someone asks me
i think hes probably cheating but im not 100% on it
submetry is noob compare to solja ash
WHAT
If i was confident this is true id take money xD
i mean even the clips where he looks like hes cheating dont look exactly like lock
so idk
but ill never be confident so dw
Some ppl they try to give me best possible technique and it’s like that’s cool but I’m not that good 😭
like the times ive looked at it it just looked like insane raw mechanical skill
@sage tusk i couldn't find u earlier but rl sometime soon? 👀
Welp coaching is a skill u can build as well
Btw im so bad
ur discord is anything but saokoh.
😭
😭
we're vibing looopppyyyyyy
saodih
sure is, but i have like no experience, i never looked at my own VODs other than while editing them. I didnt get coaching outside of randomly being in VCs with other aimers, I just did everything through trial and error
quack!
i suppose that makes me a good coach in some areas
wait but he got pc checked a few times
and he passed those checks
but mid in others
plus there are countless vods of him doing amazing in scens with like ANYTHING u could ever want
he was pc checked by submetry i think 😭 but also pc checks are not 100%
like a fucking metronome or something
sub is a fucking cheater himself bro
the last part is true but i feel like thats something
oh that changes a lot then
im telling you this mf has been cheating for so long
no one cares about sub though so he has not been exposed
ash will be pc checked by trusted player soon though
and i could not care less to try
not sure if it will be enough for unban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_5aceDN8M like this shit is insane to look at
idk who that is just had to chime in for sub
Glad he is not timescaling 
like i can write a whole page on dynamic / TS / pathing / tension, but show me a static VOD and idk what im looking at. I also straight up dont give a shit about most arm / wrist / finger stuff, as long as you use both arm and wrist. I dont even use my fingers and even then I used to play Reactive with just my arm
this doesnt rly prove anything tbh because hes not being accused of timescale
that metronome LOL
Ye that makes sense then
yeah why does this guy have a metronome for reactive bro
I’ll ping u when I get a vod later today
brb placing metronome right in front of my face and screen
I want Eddie nova :4
i used to want to create a whole doc with everything i know but I always got bored and quit after 2 sentences 
So now I just give the knowledge thats needed to explain a relevant concept when watching a VOD
yeah no but its just funny
garfield was the goat coach fr.
to look at
you dont know about the secret tech
u can see his hand and pad and everything
i mean this is prolly the best tho
since we the best learn by experience
also the quality is terrible but that shit looks cheated as fuck to me personally
and ive never heard of bro so that also isnt a good sign
Lmfaooo that’s so real
I can only help someone when the vods right in front of me
true, garf and sai (and soothing i guess) only people who kiiiiinda coached me i guess. and only on static
maybe im not at a good enough level to talk about it but he doesnt look like hes cheating
and static is still my worst category
he plays roblox
yeah
very good cheating if he isnt
the correct way. fuck statgic.
he was the best minecraft player before he swapped to aim training
Your static is very functional though, I think there is a lot to learn from your runs imo
It is interested to see how you approached clustering throughout your 1w2ts run
yeah i see the transition from playing minecraft to having 50ms reaction speeds on reactive tracking
what garf
i know of a garf
🤔
I bought this thing
also means you wont think about unnecessary stuff even when you dont need it. i dont know exactly what guide it was but theres like a fairly popular static guide that goes waaaaaaay into depth. And a lot of Intermediate players swear by it but ong it will just confuse most of them and shower them with unnecessary info
garfield
Minecraft, the land of legit players
i doubt it
cus he was cracked as shit
exactly lmao
99% no
yeah sounds about right
garf quit years ago
fire
quit what tho
sold his PC quit
he came back for a lil bit
ohhhhhhh
yeah he came back for a short time but i heavily doubt he plays roblox
Lou can i ping u later when I get vod
sure, any time
Oke ima make a thread then latah
Also pinging u Dawny
I see u lurking
make sure to ping joey too
cant say for sure ill reply immediately, but ill look at it
There is a 99% chance
😭
I don't reply
No worries
Fake friend
Make sure to ping paw too
ATP should I just ping kovaaks enjoyer
ping hex too, hes quite insightful I hear
Ping zcn
this is a better shape than gpx
ping zcn
@plague
what do I need to be aware of for the required gm+ vods?
Hexings the best player ever
imagine the arc though 
Grinds Kovaaks, Radiant Val, turns life around, quits, sells PC and everything, becomes powerlifer, returns to play roblox 😭
Timer timer timer leaderboard and game version
yeah true
three timers? xd
id respect it ngl
my adhd hadnt allow me to reply quicker
i mean, i hate cheaters with all my heart but thats so real
Session timer scenario timer and system clock
alright, thanks
Yup
This is edited
what does "perfected" and "goated" mean in scenario titles?
He said today is just PB day
and invincible
After hitting something he shouldn't be
perfected is like, better than it was before, and goated means its goated
Invincible is invincible
It's great
some of the celestials ive been getting over the time just look horrendous when looking at my vods
at least for me
this means nothing
they are fake words that mean nothing
popcorn goated tracking invincible voltaic 😦
Because those titles themself mean nothing, its just a distinguisher across variants
you are your own worst critic
its because celestial scores are lowkey mid
hexings was wr everything
my AL S2 steadytrack WR, one of my best scores ever - literally gave me the name Loucchi, i remember thinking that looks horrendous
celestial scores are the new j*de scores
yes get solara scores
genuinely
when zcn response
only way to prove your worth
You will never recreate the feeling that you once had when grinding for gold complete the first time 
elite is unofficial tho
its on evxl
i have VODs like my 1220 bounceshot that I never uploaded bcs i thought they looked bad
not sure what a response would even look like 😭 cute told him what he needs to do to possibly prove himself legit not sure if hes gonna do it or not
trust me, it was the wind that made my crosshair lock onto the bot, not cheats
do what they did to ropz😭😭
last thing id ever do is trusting cute
-person whos never talked to cute probably
That was about the cheats server he was in
he honestly probably wasnt using those cheats
and using diff ones
i dont believe he is that stupid
to be in a server that has the cheats he uses
i just know cute is like tryna make up for hisself by helping other people catch cheaters
zcn would never cheat with that iq
he might be that stupid…
nah thats the type of shit id write
#unbancheatersfromvt
he is brazillian
when vt unban wave
lets get a team together of former cheaters, and use them to catch cheaters
cheaters should be allowed to be in the discord because it would be funny
voltaic was better when cute and zcn was here
no because fuck them
but if they were still here we could bully
did cute have a clear moment when his scores kinda looked off?
even irons are cheating
where that image of that guy complaining about bronze reqs
i mean it seemed very obvious
he told me the scenario he started cheating on
it was right after he got quaketrack astra
to effects all over the screen
hazelaimbro
like your tryna hide somthing
he was doing that before cheating
i can tell you rn theres still at least 1 cheater towards the top of the Leaderboard
taht is just a preference of editing
shimmy would still be here if it wasnt for his COD vids
for what 😭
if you dont have a presence in the community, no one is gonna go after them
leak
voltaic looking like 2016 cs everyone getting cheating accusations
NO
not saying I know of any, but Id be surprised if theres noone
i know one 🧐
you do not understand what happens if you do this
it genuinely changes the entire culture
I should've gone under the radar all this time is what you're saying
Is it who I am thinking of 
ppl start casually talking about it and others get inspired to
i mean just say who then
I do I am just trolling
we all know
they r just too ass to be banned
😭
anyone not pussy enough to start aim training deserves respect
💯
💀
there are some guys in the roblox scene with vt gm who are straight up colourbotting
i think most of them are caught but im sure some slip through
Im assuming hazel is referencing azuma
no dahoodian has good aim they should all be banned on sight
if not them then idk who hazel is talking about

i think he posted floating heads score that looked weird
fair share of allegations have been thrown around
and some things look strange in the vods
azuma is js mbm style player
damn das crazy
just wait until i drop my google doc
Thats just not what they are
who knows that actual verdict however
but they keep playing and they keep climbing
so if they are legit they will pass
and if not they will be banned
i mean if hes not banned the verdict is innocent i suppose
just no one has looked into it that has any power
innocent till proven guilty
I dont know if anyone actually looked into it
They made a ticket to kovaak
but Im sure that didnt gain much traction
Noone looked into me yet hehe
azuma cheating is not 100% but the vods that i frame by framed that looked blatant to me where not even the clicking ones
so the excusenof being mbm dynamic style doesnt make sense
Specifically for static
Azuma just plays full tension full speed
Its kinda similar for linear clicking too
azuma almost 1000 hours in cs and thought vsync on was best for latency
i thought that was pretty impressive
the ones that looked weird were like vt controlsphere and domiswitch avasive or something
and i think she took down the domiswitch vod that used to be pinned on twitter
more impressive than nova in 200 hours
The big thing that I noticed outside of cheating, is the obsession with their hours
Noone looked into me yet hehe
apart from azuma is there anyone else
Yeah like ermmmmm genetics? Helo???
me
Theres a 48 page doc on me yall aint seen yet
viet
no ik ur cheating
feet cant make you THAT good
many things dont line up
What's the fastest someone has got to gm
but at this point
I think salzi
He basically spawned in GM
salzi claims 100hrs I think
salzi got it in like sub 100 hrs i think idk if anyone was faster
goat
I mean I joke but innocent till proven guilty
shit
@dim sphinx was that the guy that started iron then somehow ended up gm
yeah, nothing we can do anymore
elige got it in like 100 hours but he started from being elite CSer so
Or is that a diff guy
nah salzi was quicker i think
There was a guy that went iron to master or gm smth like that in the same amount
iirc there are people who started GM
dunno who you are referring too sorry
or pretty much started GM at least
I'll find the tweet at one point
I think bard was basically gm when he started
but different reqs probably affected that
@buoyant helm if youre ever on again pls confirm or deny
i started bronze like a true aimchud
noob
maybe salzis a hacker
wait if I PB on any scen im offically rank 1.5 in germany again
too noob
Whose rank 1 in Germany
Feet man
viet
@elder lichen u takin that
Ah
feet man
........we might not be ready for that conversation yet...........
who
joey is hacking
He got banned then unbanned on aimlabs
who tf is that
aznowho? 😭
Basically lmao
who
naww
play s5.5
i dont hack
He’s a guy who was like gm for a while, then started farming Astra+ scores on everything at the end of the year into this year
wow everyones sleeping on aznowho
everyones sleeping on the real goat
hopefully he doesnt get crushed under the immense weight
oh is he that one AL server dude?
is there a way to play 5.5 yet
Probably
what if matty hacking
then if matty hacking
then clover hacking
then clover hacking
viscose hacking
then we’re doomed
imma start doing this and no one will suspect a thing
i think someone mentioned that an updated version of bot 3 pgt is available but iunno other than that
hazel celestial clicking arc
i could forgive clover cheating
the runs suspiciously take 75 seconds
why
just my bad net bro
because its clover
i got a pc upgrade
thats what viet said...
I'm lil excited to see what they do to replace driftts
i can not forgive anyone for cheating, but if I could forgive even less than not, Id would do that to clover if he cheated
cant hate on greatness
oh I can
LMAO
if clover was cheating then we have been aiming wrong for the past 3 years
all the comparisons of clover to cheatrs
i mean if he cheated the tech would still be right
i mean i guess on tracking tech is very easy
like
i think tracking tech is reasonable
its usually exactly what youd expect
stay on da bot 
more or less
i mean i feel like the way he plays is pretty unique
this is why I like tracking
idk is it?
clicking tech too complicated
this gonna make no sense but his tracking feels more like round than every else
that means nothing
put crosshair on target
round?
what 100 hours ecs does to you
yes like clover trakcs more round and then like vexin tracks more spikey
oh like that
so clover is smoother?
id call that smooth
i think its a little diff because matty is smoother than clover but clover more round
sure but tracking in the same direction is also smoothness so just being more specific
i mean i havent really watched a clover or matty VOD in a bit, so pls call me out if in spewing bs, but I do not believe matty is smoother
i think matty is smoother
Rage bait
part of it could be the renders though
but idk ive always thought matty has better mouse control than clover in like every area at least current matty vs old clover but clover makes up for it in something else ig
prob reading
pivotmaxxing 
i really dont remember matty aim as being particularly smooth
he was never relaxpilled in my memory
Matty’s aim is definitly shaky
Compared to clover
But that doesn’t mean its less precise
Clover’s playstyle/aim looks calmer
More relaxed
Im losing my mind, why can't I buy anything online because I'm in Canada 😔
do u think thats a good thing
matty was never smooth
like nicer looking runs but i assume more consistent?


