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most people I know here are on 1080p
Speedts moment
so tell me again why cpu gains dont matter
if you have a high end CPU already, high end GPUs are not improving enough for you to notice any improvement
if you have a 5090, you are not playing on 1080p
going from 7800x3d to 9850x3d (???) is like 0 improvement basically
let me look up the numbers
who is upgrading their cpu 1 generation
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even in 1080p
the difference is like 20 fps?
1% lows pretty good though
sizeable improvement
so youre making up an imaginary person who upgrades their cpu every generation?
what I'm saying is I built my PC like 3-4 years ago and there still isn't anything released that makes it worth upgrading?
???
i upgraded mine like 10 generations
and im saying thats out of touch, you can buy top of the line hardware and have it last a very long time
????
you are literally agreeing with me
most people wouldnt even be considering dropping money on a new pc if their parts are only 3-4 years old
you just said CPUs and GPUs have not increased meaningfully to upgrade
you're framing it as something that's bad
you agree with me, thanks
he's framing it as "that's how it should work"
....
zamn
im genuenely considering if youre baiting or not now
like i dont think youre making a genuine argument atm
youre making purposefully stupid points to get a reaction
you are the one who came in with 90% of people use 1080p
and proved you pulled that stat out of your ass completely lmao
but sure
since you want to try and tell me what i think heres what i think, 9000 series cpus are worth the extra money if youre going to upgrade to them, but its silly to think that just because you cant upgrade from a 7000 cpu for worthwhile gains that its not a meaningful jump
i was wrong about the specific number but the core of my point was the same, most people are on 1080p
my entire points were
me
"people" do this
then you come in "90% of ppl use 1080p bro"
when I'm talking about high end specs only
1440p is objectively superior to 1080 so long as you have solid fps
im sure back in the day "90% of competitive players still use CRT monitors" was being said
4k is also the next step up but 99% of people do not want to spend money on the hardware needed to get good frames
you were just complaining about how cpus werent improving enough to make you going from a 7800x3d a meaningful jump
sure if you aren't on high end PC, then market is probably ok for you, but if you've built high end in the past 3-4 years, the market is basically dead/stagnant
and it's obvious, Nvidia and AMD abandoning consumers, full focus on AI
can someone give me lore about the argument
why compete for gamers when they produce like 1-3% of revenue?
they are going to push hard for cloud gaming in 1-2 years
after everyone has been priced out
NVIDIA X PALANITR 🤑
I said CPUs/GPUs are stagnant/haven't improved much [in high end space], then this guy says CPUs are improving
and most people use 1080p
im still in black and white
donate me
palantir anticheat sending 12 hitmen to players above 40% hs
wouldn't mind some ID tracking in games though
like south korea does
if you cheat you get punished by law or some shit
lmao
fuck cheaters
just can't be going crazy in chat anymore if they have my ID
fuck static
lolxd
l0lxd
no
less surveillance is better
not that they cant already track you to every corner of the earth
think about it
they put ids in game
they gonna put it in everything else
mossad not sending their strongest with supadeviser
its gonna be like that one south park episode where all your internet traffic can be linked back to you
NO
brokie
homeless calling someone else broke 💔
no gifting
go back to desk
can i have some pocket lint
homeless what joey 
nopad chudron
ngl this would make FPS gaming come back
8 year old pad tuff
god this was such a mistake, i need to rest my hand and i shouldntve done it but i got on the vaaks. im TWEAKING rn i could so be gold complete
we can perma ban a person from every FPS Game ever if they cheat
it would kill gaming
think about it
we just need a good solution to hackers idk
sue them
the current FPS market is 1/3rd droids 1/3rd cheaters and 1/3rd competitive larpers who watch self improvement tiktoks and spend 2 hours a day on aimlab and end up playing worse
no
i propose a solution, death penalty for anyone caught with a cheat on their computer
its fully made of droids
pvp games died 2020
no
5 years hard labor
when there was a influx of normies joining the space
no visitation
who just dont get it
the invention of cross platform FPS with aim assist was terrible
normies ruin everything
its like spongebobs brother
they ruin everything they touch
they "play" games but they arent gamers
and they are being catered to
so games are just losing identity
WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING
mobile crossplay with PC should be outlawed
they cater to the lowest common denominator
i been noticing this shit on roblox shooters
like
since when do mobile players NEED autoshooit
im starting to learn. every time i miss or over flick and have to adjust backwards in static. is time i could have spent killing 1 or maybe even 2 extra targets
what do you mean they are stagnant? like frames in games havent improved? hasn't improved for training AI?
underflick better
aim assist in general should be outlawed
ngl i 1v1'd a comp guy today on mobile and 5-4'd him even though i dont know how to slide yet on mobile
and remove crossplay
its insane
like
youre complaining that your build isnt severely outclassed in like 1.5 hardware generations?
prison life added autoshoot
for what reason
im tired of casuals being catered to that dont even wanna put in work to improve
that was just never the case even in the golden age of innovation around the 1080's time this is just crazy speak
ive seen mobile players on weaponry make it work
that's an insane bit of game design
and ive seen mobile and controller players on da hood make it work
trying AR on mobile is insane i cant even do 20 dmg
get one of those mobile roller rigs
the tracking is so hard
that being said
have you seen someone on pc who's nver played before
ngl i got one for my phone
the average mnk player is an actual drone
if you had 10 hours on every platform total you would be way stronger on mobile/roller than PC
is so jittery
the skill floor is so much higher
and roller players love to say how they only have their thumbs
but thing is
theres a REASON why thats not really comparable
yeah frames in games haven't improved much, GPUs are just not improving fast enough to make CPU improvements meaningful
there are multiple reasons for frames not improving
they seem to forget that using your whole arm has a smaller margin of error but to actually get to that point you need to use low sens
you don't think the market is stagnant?
gpus hardware is i would say because theyre doing nothing but improving on gpu software instead
Ew
but cpus are over here delivering better products at much lower power draw and heat i wouldnt say cpus are stagnant
and if you gaming and you are GPU bottlenecked, what does this transalte to? (better CPU will do nothing for you)
bro power draw?
yes power draw, at your precious 1440p that can especially matter when you get into higher cpu usage
roller without aim assist can't aim the same way a mouse can
but if you give them aimbot they sure as hell can

no roller player will ever be getting t1 in kovaaks unless its a really weird smoothness scen
nekosu method
what about gyro
VT Suavetrack Advanced - 4484 Celestial #9
︀︀
︀︀mid run but got a celestial score on controller, long overdue 😁😁
I will say DLSS is sort of a good improvement cause for high FPS gamers you are murdering the graphcis anyways
this is prety crazy
but yeah this is what controller can work on, you can set the sens to be the same as the bot speed theoretically
explain how lowering CPU power draw will make my gaming exp at 1440p better, I don't see the correlation
it does, i also think from a motor skill perspective, a mouse still offers more control
what level of assistance is enough for roller though
0
that's the debate
in an actual pc case instead of the fully air exposed 63 degree warehouse test benches thats going to matter when you start gaming and the pc heats up
isn't one of the big points that aim assist has 0 reaction time in a lot of games
like just insta pulls
exactly
so it does nothing for the actual FPS and gaming part?
in its entirety though
you can't like, fight a controller palyer the same way as you can a pc player
yeah
in some games they are simply more reactive than you can be
they will always win a strafe duel
if your pc runs less hot you get more frames, simple as
like have fun strafing vs a roller player in apex
if they are halfway human you are getting 200-0 inj 0.3s
it depends on the game, like in BF6 it's a little overtuned to where it pulls almost instantly and will track for over half a second. more than enough time for the TTK to do its work
"a little overtuned"
i have an idea
-> if they look in your direction for aim assist to work you die
that would make smurfing more rampant
no.
makes bad mnk players suffer more than they already are
i say that because it gets totally boned at mid-long range
tell me do you have a half decent cpu cooler in your pc?
I DO I DO I DO!!!
if your PC is thermal throttling then obviously cooler PC = more frames, otherwise you are just gettting theoretically longer hardware lifespan and lower power bill
trying to draw anything else is pure cope
cod is horrible for rAA
what is aim assist without rotational
just circle strafe and you have 90% acc
how does tha twork
obviously bruh
great job, i knew you had it in you
without it its just slowdown
why?
slows down ur sens when ur near them
some games use like both rotational and slowdown
so it makes it super easy to run a high ass sens and rely on slowdown to crutch with rotational
no really, why do you care about a cooler a stock fan would make sure it dosent thermal throttle
noise, other than that it doesn't matter
most people over cool their CPUs anyways
aesthetics, etc are valued
aesthetics dont improve your gaming experience though right?
controller players do everything but swapping to mouse and keyboard
hang on this feels like fake news i feel like 5080 giga dumpsters a 3080 from 3 years ago
ppl who have the most aesthetic like setups usually suck.
tbf i will do anything but swtiching to a roller
then again in prime rivals everyone would swap roller
i remember qing into sync, they pick big cross, then ALL 5 OF THEM HAVE THE PC ICON SWAP TO CONTROLLER
and then they proceed to autoshoot us all to death
shits so lame
you are just yapping to yap, say your point or whatever?
its silly to think that cpu efficiency dosent matter is what i think
then mfs got the audacity to tell me "just use katana or riot bro!"
hmm 5 year gap between those two
the more interesting part is comparing 4080/7900xtx to 5080
only 2-3 years apart, not much gains, let me look up the stats
does the 5080 literally not double the 4080's frames on most games?
or am i being stupid rn
hell nah
at least in raw rasterization performance
again "wow its not worth upgrading 1 generation what a shocker"
ok but in RT games it defs does right?
not considering frame gen ofc
ray tracing bench]
6 FPS
lmao
you justifying 6 fps increase from 4080 to 5080?
bro is jensen huang
oh hell no 😭😭
ppl who upgrade every gen gotta be studied.
"people"
it's not bad for the market, people get to buy used GPUs and CPUs at cheap price
LOL
yeah
but AMD and Nvidia have not done anything worthwhile
even if they are used they go for more or the same price
4080 giga ultra hyper super duper mega max vs base 5080 who wins
i might be a beast
146 vs 137: 5080 vs 4080 non super?
why fake news? giga ultra hyper super duper mega max
in the first place youre strawmanning me
no
oh boy i looooooove nvidia thank you for 6 more fps daddy nvidia
words that never came out of my mouth
you are defending/justifying the 6-9 fps increase between generations though
wow did i do that
"ofc u can't get any improvements upgrading 1 generation"
it's never been this bad, where it's only a 6-9 fps increase
but you are acting like it has always been this way
I still hate aether bot 1
I can't do volatic bench, I cry everytime
I get the most inconsistent scores
viscose benchs I can get consistent rating though
rank
jadeish
play pasu wide react
I do ok on both I’d say but aether particularly I’m having a hatred for
consistency only really develops once you reach higher ranks
Because I can’t read bot 1 for the life of me
Only reason I’m held back from Astra on it bro I swear
@idle kelp
Ok I got this
unless u mean inconsistent per run and not per day, if its per run u are just lucky sometimes and other times u arent or rather ur pathing is bad
we can agree that theres not enough innovation in the computer hardware space rn, but what youve been arguing about is the fact that they havent made meaningful upgrades to your relatively new pc build
the scenarios just feel too grindy, gotta play like 50 times to get a good run
idk
then ur highscore is not ur skill, it was a lucky run. try worrying more about average score than highscores, if u need to play a scenario 50 times to get a good score then youre not that good, 5 should be enough
Pasu wide track is some rash holy
clearly not when I am conistent/higher rank on viscose benchs?
so of course its depressing if you gaslight yourself to believe your actual skill is your lucky retry spam score
stop coping
Can’t tell you how many times I reset
If the first bot or the run itself is bad I don’t do it
the only scenarios i think are grindy are the gauntlet scenarios like sparky or air pure, everything else is the same 60 seconds
Not worth the effort
I just avoid the ones with like 4-6 bots
bad habit lowkey
there's a reason they say benchmarks are not for grinding
lol
It the Matty method bro it’s cracked fr fr
or training*
the big aim trainers say its not optimal to spam benchmarks for training
Idk how ur meant to get a score on them if you don’t grind them ngl
Like any top score
that lines up with resetting for going for scores
just play them once a week each scenario like 1-3 times thats enough to see true improvement and it minimizes the amount of flukes so it should be more representable
Also does anyone have a playlist to help with stickiness to the target on Kovaaks
I gues its smoothness
For reactivity
Not just general smoothness
possibly
thundah precise
or control
playing clover raw control and extra controlsphere every day for 30 minutes would lowkey be enough to become goated
I used to grind clover but not a lot
I’m just so tunnel visioned on aether
In my like 170 h of Kovaaks 60-80 of thoseare probably aether
tbh the most important thing u need to do is to constantly consciously tell urself to tense up less, like i got almost nova on smoothbot but im still tensing up like crazy on everything else that isnt "just smoothness" bc im not in the same conscious low tension mode
I don’t think it’s tension that’s my bigger issue
It’s reading and blending if I had to take a guess at the most likely problem
smoothness is 100% tension
Particularly vertically
If the bot didn’t strafe upward or downward at all I’d have such a high score probably
My peanut brain can’t comprehend it
and speed matching i guess but thats easier to do than not tense
they removed sharecodes i cannot
screen?
holy cooked
here
KovaaKsGearingStaticEntryfrag
lowkey just gonna make a small program to search local playlists on ur pc and then give u the sharecode
the amount of times people need codes is big
no idea why kovaak removed to copy it in game
i tbh had no clue they removed it
how
actually
i wont even lie
i was so shit at those when i first started
cns poopypants
Only logic is something larger coming down the line
kovaaks plz add replay
no its honestly probably just a mistake lol theres 0 logical reason to remove it and even less reason to not be consistent and remove it only on 90% of playlists
would be fire and easy to implement but would suck bc of replay editing so i guess it would need a watermark or something
kovaaks add replay and playlist search bar
wait u cant copy playlist codes anymore?
my goat
for most playlists
go king
damn
like the sharecodes dont work anymore?
vdim is the backbone of aim training
🤨why vdim survived
✌️
test
arguing in the deadlock discord is lowk draining
1789 on dotts easy 😭
I 4 sec thought u meant novice
ya the sharecode of most playlists arent displayed in the game anymore so u cant just copy it from the UI, u need to go into the stored json file and copy it from there
boring ass super bowl
some guy i saw his entire bank account (45k usd) on the seahawks
Well someone lucky ig
it's halftime
i mean its not overwatch where u switch sides after half time and it becomes defender sided
im sure the patriots mental is down anyway
oh that is weird
which game
how much did he make
33k if they win
controller world records? possible theres not much competition
most boring supa bowl oat
well my teacher either gave us a problem thats impossible to solve or Gemini is just the most dogshit thing in existence
its prob just a mistake but I did find that pretty funny
Hi, I'm new here and I was wondering what you recommend to improve my aim in Minecraft 1.21. I can't find anything on the channels other than other shooting games.
are u serious
😬
Give up
well there's nothing specific to minecraft. i'd say look to the viscose benchmarks
get gold complete anr you will be overkill in minecraft
oh im so close i could destroy in bed wars
What do you mean, full gold? What do I have to play?
scoreline in multiples of 7 waow
terrorist
@elfin mulch
What mouse should I buy? My gpro just broke
Fingertip but the mouse is too big so palm contact is forced
looks like relaxed claw to me
u sure? im trying to find new mouse because i hate my viper v3 pro
def relaxed claw.
It looks indicative of how you would grip fingertip but the mouse makes that impossible
That’s what I’m seeing
fingertip is when ur palm is not touching the mouse at all
I sometimes relax claw like that with my op1 when I'm playing val so
Fuck the grip
yea its not fingertip
bro
i took the skates off and ts was there
so anyways... im relaxed claw
real ones use their mouse naked
ty
Wait did you even remove the adhesive layer off the skates lmao
adds to control
also did u see my whisphere pb
u gotta clean it muud
what mouse would u recommend for me @indigo cairn this viper v3 too big i think
I think you're getting close to my score
U fr just sit on aimlabs 8 hrs a day?
pulsar x2h mini
that was after i did this
I think I have 16000 or smth could be wrong tho
Not aimlabs
no
Kovaaks
alr ty
How u always online and getting new records(sorry if it sounded mean
75hz buff
@kind glade I just found a gem screenshot
Cause he's always online and getting new records man
bro tren has like
17k
idk how he does it
I haven't played it a long time
and hit a flow state on whisphere
small and slow is NOT slow bro
it moves like way weirder than the regular one
It's not slow cause it's small so it seems faster
imagine if joey owns a 360hz oled
ngl i used 144hz on laptop for a while
my best is 1734 so far lol
Food of champions
so far its only helped on quake
what cm btw @compact whale
it feels way faster
actually
it feels like faster
and bot movement i swear is different
cause i kept getting skybotted
that was on 60
pulsar mouse right
lamzu thorn
oh yea lamzu
60 is Goated
cheekin and rith????
ppppp
i need to learn inertia control bruh
i am on glass bro T_T

Wtf is inertia control
i guess hes talking about stopping
practice
do you work out
goin crazy with PBs today
pb time for you
today might be pb day
deff not on intermediate. everytime i play advanced it slows me down on intermediate cuz im heavily focusing accuracy. but it usuallly helps me in the long run
snaketrack intermediate feelign harder than advanced rn
my advanced score is higher than median but intermediate isnt T_T
yes

ur doing great bro! 👏
tbh
I think I can hit masters
by next sunda ybut like
I dont want to
to much grind
I wanna play val
take your time its never a rush fr
i wanna play val soooo bad broooo
but my wifi is so butt
my lowest ping is 79 like how
i could hit masters today if i could hit every shot i take
this guys smart
i could make a thousand bucks today if someone gave me it
then you Could also get celestial complete
or u could take break with s5
nah like
its easy
masters is ez bro
im ngl
just do every scenario
for 2 hours
and your mastering itn gl
ok chop chop
then why arent u masters
bcuz bruh
get to it
yk how much ive been olaying val?
yeah
all I need is all masters tracking
and jade everything
u miss 100% of the shots you dont take
id still be masters
i miss 100% of the shots i miss 🧘
s-viscosepill
Viscosepill is a technique to practice static that works by prioritising initial flick speed above everything else.
The rules are:
- Spam click constantly, maintain under 50% accuracy
- Minimum 100 misses throughout the run
- Restart if you hit 3 targets in a row without missing
- Go as fast as possible to ensure that you finish most runs
(this is a joke dont actually do this)
is there any difference between cheap and expensive mousemat?
Just clock the dots
Do it fast enough
It’s jade
not true masters
my raiden mid is like "sticky" at some parts of the mousemat now. is it over chat? we chuck it in the wash?
I think it also melted in the aussie heat
okay but I feel like jade static ain't that hard
yeah just wash it dawg
when was the last time you washed it
I don't think joey is master
bought it like 10 months ago and didnt wash, keep it clean tho, wear a sleeve so no sweat too
He is still not master though that doesn't change the fact
what cm and mouse?
31 Fenrir
u got plat on pgt
nah not yet
nvm
no
can u get masters?
kovaaks annoyed me... time for overwatch
possibly
what rank are you noiw
in OW?
yeah
im ngl i was laughing when you posted the gold ss, then I played ranked and gold myself LMAO
i use 1.69 on everyone. 1600dpi which is like 50 cm i think
higher on support than dmg...
i placed bronze 1 in finals
not a real aimtrainer player bro
no idea how. i legit just hop around with bap and shoot ppl
I literally play horrid ow and got high plat
im actually terrible
like somethings gotta be wrong for you to get gold dps
I also tbf have a decent understanding of OW from prior experience but games so diff nowadays I dunno if it even matters
i play too much aim trainer and dont know how to actually play shooters
dawg I legit thought you were goood at this game
maybe baptiste should be your main
that’s super slow wtf
and i play low on everything
whats yours
i used to play 34 cm on OW but its just slowly went up
thats fast
that’s slower than average
Hey close to mine
for hs
im on 2.6 and it feels so fast for whatever reason
big jump
I think before I used to play 2.6 400 dpi but only if I was playing bad
i’m weighted more towards 2 unless tracer
finals is hella technical icl
or maybe not technical
like mechanical but not just aim mechanical
also a lot of gamesense to it
but bro ive seen joeys clips and he cooks ppl
my team
get caught out of rotates
robbed me
put yourself into a third party situation
i might try it but not the biggest fan of the gun choice in finals
i was doing like consistently better than my team on ranked
like there's a lot of shit that could go wrong when it comes to trying to win in the finals icl
bro the last match that i won
the light on our team kept running far away
and getting killed
like
ur playing light
and fighting a whole team
I always imagined light as poke
you can fight a whole team with other characters?
no\
so that guy was just a lil slow in the head
basically
i got chat banned last time I saaid that as one word
Yeah but you can also just like
one tap any light
bully the medium
and then it's heavy v heavy
I just really don't like the dmg output but I also don't really shoot well in the finals icl
I'm too focused on movement when I play it for some reason
just dont like the gunsa
like wdym i have to use a AK47
its impossible to shoot in apex
gun from the vietnam war
fcar has less aim punch than the ak
I use the AK cause it's hotter
AK or ARN
add me on EA
Any BR game that doesn't have a solo mode is not chill for me bro
man wtf 😭
holy canyons of despair
use 301 and alternator
team games bro
my team WILL somehow fuck us all over
and it gets to a point where i cant do shit
do you guys change your sensor angle
ur just bad
No
ill carry you in finals joey
idm team games
add me
I grew up on team games
team games suck now
I just do not like BR games where I have to fucking play with people
I should be able to queue up solo
fight 99 or more other people
and have fun
If I wanted to play with people there's modes for that
I don't want to be forced to play with people
esp when I'm trying to learn a BR
it feels shit
@fallen slate DAWNY U HAVE R6
oh okay
LMAOOOOOO
is he??????
thats handguy
No it's just
not r6 guy
ive never seen anything about this guy and siege
Wow
He talks about it everytime someone mentions real games bro
real
It's impossible to not see wtf do you mean
siege peaked with lions release.
"how do I aim in a real game?" "Well with my experience in the college siege scene"
yadda yadda
smth smth
no
nope
it peaked when you would be scanned the entire round if you dared to move at all
release lion was the peak of the game
dawny can we play siege sometime
It's cooked bro
idk if im good anymore but like
Maybe
based
dawg i dont fuckin have twitter LMFAO
who that gurl
Otherwise he's gonna die
i used to play t2 :p
from his gf
i was kinda okay
so bored
hey synch
lft t2 guys
We had a whole conversation about it
maybe
me
ur married?
No
Might as well be
i thought we was cool 💔
Joey
you have yet to do what i have told dawny..
You would eat all the food
yeah i was going to say
NO THAT WOULD BE TOREX
I forgor
Dawn give me an invite
remember the communion thing i told you about
Bad morning
do it.
OHHH
LMFAOOOO
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
u wake up rn
sounds like you need to drink a lot of caffeien
u sensed me asking u ab siege
nice sleep schedule
i like shooting things
knew i downloaded this game again for a reason
LMFAOOOO
good looks twin
u would say that tho
what game
i hate siege
we turn anything into a gif
flip u
THIS is why we aimtrain
deadeye i think
this one
can someone help me acceses the kovaaks valorant playlist
what rank are you
diamond usually
i never push for anything i get so bored playing ranked
i maxed out at plkat
if I knew why would I tell you
I'd be using the method to get to t1 and farm tournaments
greed
you're actually the goat
dude
I genuinely just dunno man
the sky is ur ceiling ❤️
my ceiling feels a lot closer than the sky man
just an illusion bro
I to this day don't understand why everyone from valchat seems to have sm faith in my ability

why the long face
voltaic post oat
Tbh with how long aimtraining’s been prevalent
peak rank?
It’s likely that in 10 years or so, most, if not all of the top aimers in the scene will be better than Matty is now
So realistically speaking your ceiling with consistent practice is prolly way higher than you think
