general

[hushed patrol]

My shortest school day is 8 hours long bro

[solemn lava]

wtf clover changed his steam name back to clover

[hushed patrol]

6 is my dream

[fallen slate]

Bro

[hushed patrol]

😭

[solemn lava]

what is happening.

[fallen slate]

I'm saying 6 days a week

[next copper]

where is pasu

[fallen slate]

I misunderstood your question

😭

[hushed patrol]

OHHH

[solemn lava]

im focussing tracking rn

[fallen slate]

YEAH

[sour totem]

I keep forgetting this community is made up of tracking enjoyers

[hushed patrol]

dude i have 8 am till 4 pm everday

[sour totem]

Of course you guys enjoy this shit

[solemn lava]

im going 1 cat at a time

[hushed patrol]

I bet your hours are better than mine

[solemn lava]

pasu will be introduced at somepoint.

[hushed patrol]

Saturday school 💔

[fallen slate]

Yeah

[sour totem]

Yeah man so easy to track !

I finally understand the static haters but with tracking

[fallen slate]

5ish but my schedule is flexible

[royal sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1325622644019695696/1465233906117644288/whisphere_20510.mp4?ex=69843a69&is=6982e8e9&hm=d4d688317421d707d0c8710f68dddaa61ba6376af0102ea44a64093e90b516ff&

[sour totem]

This shit pisses me off

[fallen slate]

Only bad thing is " homework"

[floral spindle]

Imma hop on pgt today

[fallen slate]

But I am homeschooled so everything is homework technically

[solemn lava]

its the same for any category sometimes u get pasu bots bumping into eachother mad annoyingly static/ts terrible spawns

[royal sluice]

I'm barely moving

[floral spindle]

Wish me luk

[sour totem]

I'm too tilted to watch a vod of someone just being better sorry

"dude it's so easy you just have to be better" type shit

[hushed patrol]

I have 3-5 large tests a week btw too

So when i get home at 5 pm

[sour totem]

I'll work on that robin wobin 😔

[hushed patrol]

I spent like 2-3 hours on learning

[hushed patrol]

Bad decision boi

[sour totem]

also wrong version gang

[floral spindle]

Gotta do precision comp bro

[fallen slate]

I'm going to ignore everything you just said and then criticize you for saying this is a bad decision

[solemn lava]

why would u do that

[floral spindle]

For complete 🙁

[hushed patrol]

Pgti voltaic is better than pgt.

[fallen slate]

PGT bot 3 I have mastered I think, I know no more get tilted by the Bot being silly

[solemn lava]

fuck pgti till the day i die.

[fallen slate]

I have become one

With it

[floral spindle]

Would u be down to share some knowledge

[sour totem]

Those aren't that bad though

[hushed patrol]

Bro i don’t even play tracking anymore

[fallen slate]

No shit bro

[floral spindle]

??? I left u for 3 days

[sour totem]

and admittely the tracking shit isn't that bad either

[floral spindle]

What happened 7axo

[sour totem]

I just genuinely cannot bring myself to enjoy it

[fallen slate]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby ass comparison

[hushed patrol]

Never call me 7axo again.

[fallen slate]

I play a good amount of everything but tracking fun

[sour totem]

I've never once been good at it and it always feels like I'm slamming my head into an unbreakable wall no matter what

[fallen slate]

I can't wait until this mouse comes in my God

[sour totem]

it's just not a fun dynamic for me

[floral spindle]

7axo boy

[hushed patrol]

My hardware is holding me back

[hushed patrol]

Zywoo boy

[fallen slate]

I hate when this happens

[floral spindle]

Atleast I’m zywoo

[fallen slate]

Wait until Matty gets a 500hz OLED

Maybe it would be more clear to people how big of a difference it makes, solid 10/ 15% I swear

[main compass]

can someone slime me out

[sour totem]

I think I just don't have the tracking genes man

[main compass]

i cant deal with this shit

no more

[fallen slate]

I get scores without even fucking trying much mentally

[hushed patrol]

My mom bought me a gpx but i already have 3 of them 💔

[fallen slate]

Amazing

[main compass]

me when i have plat reactive but bronze static

[fallen slate]

This is your chance to put different skates on them

[solemn lava]

yeah but its the same premise in the terms that they can completely ruin a run until you learn it and get better

adapt and overcome type shit

[fallen slate]

So you can become the ultimate all around player

[sour totem]

I don't feel like I can learn anything tracking related man idk

It's all shit

[main compass]

why is static important bro

am i a chud

[sour totem]

It's just fucking head against wall

[royal sluice]

ill take it off your hands

[fallen slate]

Jade

[upper token]

Did u liek the xm2

[solemn lava]

as someone who used to be 1000x better than i am now

[fallen slate]

Unironically

[main compass]

it just take time

[solemn lava]

youll get there twin

[fallen slate]

Tracking is one of those ones where you can get better at it by just playing it

Almost

Depending on your level

[main compass]

what bout static

how do i get out of bronze

im in elo hell

[fallen slate]

But most of the time passively playing will make you better at it more than something like static as example

[hushed patrol]

Ive went through 7 gpx’s in my fortnite era

💔

[fallen slate]

But You need to stop getting tilted and think about all the reasons why you can't track the way you want to

[sour totem]

It's literally head against fucking wall

I don't like it

I don't enjoy it

It's not FUN

LET ME JUST KEEP BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST THIS FUCKING WALL AND PRAY

[fallen slate]

I literally play in my head "if this was Matty with my RNG he would have gotten a way better score"

[main compass]

its not fun because u suck at it

[sour totem]

PRAY I ADAPT

[fallen slate]

Like this sentence fucking keeps me up at night

If someone like him or clover can aim the way they do

[main compass]

do u like things ur bad at

[fallen slate]

Why can't I?

[hushed patrol]

Why try to be like them when you can be better.

[sour totem]

I enjoyed static despite being shit at it

I enjoyed dynamic despite being shit at it

[fallen slate]

Yes bro

[sour totem]

I enjoyed ts despite being shit at it

[main compass]

oh then its just exercise selection

[sour totem]

I never once went "man I like this tracking"

even when I was new

[main compass]

you fundamentally dont like tracking

[sour totem]

lower than iron

[hushed patrol]

Be better not the same.

[main compass]

in that case its kinda like training legs

[fallen slate]

I'm asking why bro not saying I want to be the same

[sour totem]

The issue is the answer to this is you just have to be better

[fallen slate]

Everything can be improved on

[fallen slate]

No

[sour totem]

And that doesn't help anything

[main compass]

if u dont enjoy legs find a way to sneak stuff u do enjoy into ur legs session

[sour totem]

It literally is

[hushed patrol]

Now its time to play pgti hell and ascend.

[solemn lava]

turn on your mouse twin

[sour totem]

every tracking advice is "yo just do everything better"

[main compass]

maybe do runs of tracking then static?

[floral spindle]

And open ur eyes

[main compass]

or whatever u enjoy most

[weak sorrel]

i deadass have cable ptsd

[solemn lava]

i almost just pbed an air score from a year ago

am i back?

[fallen slate]

When I watch Matty pgt vs mine I'm like "his bot 3 Is leagues above mine because I inter lockout or I'm just not as good with bots like this, I should get better at this"

[main compass]

bro its bad

[fallen slate]

He's smoother with direction changes

He follows through way better

He reads much better

[hushed patrol]

Play “pgt advanced s5 bot 3 small”

[fallen slate]

He drinks water better

He probably pees more accurately than me

[main compass]

he drinks water better 😭

[fallen slate]

[hushed patrol]

W glaze

[upper token]

any tips for raw control trackign scensä

[hushed patrol]

🔥

[hushed patrol]

Track the ball

[main compass]

i bet you matty talks to women less than u too

[sour totem]

huge pb

[hushed patrol]

In a controlled way

[main compass]

just stat diff

[sour totem]

all I can see from anything is they're just better man I'm sorry

[royal sluice]

dawny has 0 pull

[sour totem]

They just do everything that I should be doing and can't do

[fallen slate]

Don't play it

[royal sluice]

i wouldn't be so sure

[floral spindle]

Ur back back

[fallen slate]

:0

[floral spindle]

Imma get a massage rn tazed

Eat lunch

Get my coffee and hop on

[hushed patrol]

You have 0 pull.

[royal sluice]

im married

[hushed patrol]

Dawny has already pulled

And you haven’t.

[upper token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193329638643077229/1269782808981672047/995D1603-04D9-4967-A3C8-4FCFBA1893FA.gif

[hushed patrol]

To leaptrack?

[fallen slate]

Omg

Repel bots

[solemn lava]

saliba i started igling my friends on dl and it feels so good to win games based on my comms

[fallen slate]

I'm not smart enough to play a scenario good with them

[solemn lava]

ive taken up just playing initiators fully

[royal sluice]

nah i haven't played kovaaks in a while

[solemn lava]

and i win so much more

[floral spindle]

😭

Good

[royal sluice]

im going on holiday for a month

[solemn lava]

valid

[fallen slate]

Robin Is married to leap track

[main compass]

straight sliming dawny out like this 😭

[floral spindle]

Only play carries bro

[solemn lava]

fuck carries shits so boring

[fallen slate]

She leap on my track till I

[royal sluice]

got saint complete on post buff precise

[hushed patrol]

I LITERALLY SAID THAT BRO

[solemn lava]

igling and playing initiator as someone with good mechs is op

[hushed patrol]

COPY CAT

[fallen slate]

Oh

I feel really hyper and really tired at the same time

[main compass]

time to get a single plat score

[hushed patrol]

[fallen slate]

My god

Today has been depressing

[solemn lava]

also i played against a holliday as para yesterday and i cancelled lasso like 2x with paradox swap shit was so satisfying

[floral spindle]

I dislike it cus I’m putting myself in a position where either my carries are trash and will cost us the game or I’m lucky to have a good teammate that works with me

So I just play m1 for the most part and carry myself

[fallen slate]

Played nothing but cheaters/ pro players today

[floral spindle]

Hahahaha

Shits feels good asf bro

I played para for a bit

[solemn lava]

yea same but i can get my team free picks every fight essentially

[fallen slate]

Literally every game either had someone that wasn't real or t2 players which is just frustrating bc your teammates can't do anything

[floral spindle]

Cancellin ults

[solemn lava]

like im not playing carry but im carrying as an initiator

[floral spindle]

Is mhmmmmm

[royal sluice]

I'm the only person with a complete rank out of every single person with a rank on this benchmark

[floral spindle]

Bro i remember a game

I was already so fed like 20k ahead from everyone

My team kept going for 1v1s

All game

[solemn lava]

yea

[floral spindle]

And lost us 2 rejuvenate

[solemn lava]

i can also help way more if my team ints i feel like on para/holliday

[floral spindle]

Bro the game was finished at min 25

[solemn lava]

lmao

[floral spindle]

But it ended around 49

LOL

[solemn lava]

wtf

[floral spindle]

Cus my teammates kept throwing

[solemn lava]

i think i needa learn bebop too

[floral spindle]

And never fight with me

[floral spindle]

Fk no

That terrorist

Doesn’t belong here

[solemn lava]

i just wanna learn every initiator tho

if i start scrimming i want that to fully be my role rn

im telling u like i wanna get better at this game so fucking bad

[floral spindle]

Actually yea fair enough

[solemn lava]

ive been watching scrim vods and everything

[floral spindle]

Any good eu teams?

I’ve been watchin em too trust me

[sour totem]

decent pb

[floral spindle]

Hella good

[sour totem]

oh wait that is perfectly velvet

huge

[solemn lava]

this holliday was a bum and my wall didnt place but its such a funny interaction

u can fully cancel it with swap i just mistimed

[gray iris]

i saw its crazy

[solemn lava]

theres a few

[fallen slate]

Now this scenario is awful

[solemn lava]

the best eu team split up

[fallen slate]

Bc it's smoothbot

[solemn lava]

but abrahams are really good

a few good others

[fallen slate]

Not even because it can walk up to you and kiss you on your forehead

[sour totem]

wdym

it's miles more fun than whisphere

[floral spindle]

There abrahams is the only one I can think about rn

[sour totem]

the bot makes sense

[floral spindle]

And yet they still lost

😭

[fallen slate]

@royal sluice

This right here

[floral spindle]

But yea ping diff ig

[fallen slate]

Is bullshit

[sour totem]

?????

THE BOT JUST MAKES FUCKING SENSE BRO

[fallen slate]

Straight lies actually

[sour totem]

THE WHISPHERE BOT DOESN'T

[solemn lava]

oh ive just realised my wall couldnt place because of lasso

[fallen slate]

My god Jade

[royal sluice]

it's more rng than whisphere

[sour totem]

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME

IT JUST MAKES SENSE

[sage tusk]

how do you feel about leaptrack

[solemn lava]

abrahams beat melee creeps in brawl 2 0

[sour totem]

BUT IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE

[fallen slate]

That scenario actually feels so RNG and it is objectively so so rng compared to whisphere

[solemn lava]

i dont think they have played normal game

[sour totem]

WHISPHERE RNG DOESN'T

[solemn lava]

could be wrong tho

[fallen slate]

Jade I was almost on your side for a minute like I understood your pain

Even if I disagree

But now

You going out to the dog house

[solemn lava]

eu good teams are just russians and lystic at this point

and cosmetical

[floral spindle]

Ez shi

[royal sluice]

once you know how to read the bot, whisphere is quite simple

[sour totem]

All of my opinions are based on whether or not the bot makes sense to me

HOW DO I READ A BOT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

[solemn lava]

eu comp used to be WAY better than na

but idk now tbf

[floral spindle]

Tazed look at this

My first game on Holliday

[sour totem]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[floral spindle]

Like 2025

[royal sluice]

smoothbot has a lower reading requirement

[solemn lava]

melee creeps is too good

[floral spindle]

Ignore the build

[sour totem]

It also just makes more sense

[upper token]

this scen is goated

[weak sorrel]

these 2 scores ruin my sheet

[solemn lava]

that is fucked dmg lmao

[floral spindle]

1 tap type shit

[solemn lava]

is this when gun holliday was meta like a few months ago?

[floral spindle]

Lowkey I used to play gun heavy on holli

[solemn lava]

or recent

[sour totem]

Yeah ik I'm just shit but at least the bot makes sense to me

[floral spindle]

Yea

[solemn lava]

yea makes sense

[floral spindle]

It was around the meta

[sour totem]

We've gone over this robin wobin I cannot read for the life of me

[solemn lava]

gun holliday is still playable

its just not op

[floral spindle]

1 tap thay vind lol

[sour totem]

I just pray

[floral spindle]

Yea barrel way stronger

[solemn lava]

yea

gun holliday is just if u have no gun carries kinda

[floral spindle]

I’ve never liked mirage

[sour totem]

Also I hate how you guys are acting like it's far fetched smoothbot makes more sense

[floral spindle]

He is super boring

[solemn lava]

also yea the good eu teams are abrahams leviathan and fearless furies

i used to main miragte

i played 21 games and won 17

[floral spindle]

Ok levia

[solemn lava]

i couldnt lose on that character

[floral spindle]

I tried him once

[upper token]

they gaslighting smoothbot better

[floral spindle]

He is so BORING

I prefer gaist

[fallen slate]

I mean it's simpler so it probably makes more sense on paper but I'm just pointing out how that scenario in particular literally does the most random shit sometimes

[solemn lava]

he kinda is but im a giga nerd and just enjoy winning

[floral spindle]

Way more

[solemn lava]

i dont play mirage at all now

[fallen slate]

And it constantly holds over your head or just forces impossible positions

[solemn lava]

ive never really played geist

[sour totem]

yeah but it's fun random

think about it

[solemn lava]

shes probably the 2nd best carry in the game rn tho

[fallen slate]

But

[floral spindle]

I dropped a 30 bomb first time playing her

[sour totem]

LIke it's objectively more fun

[fallen slate]

Have you ever played

[floral spindle]

She does so MUCH DAMAGE

[sour totem]

Even if it's more random

[floral spindle]

it’s illegal

[solemn lava]

idk whos better out of geist and warden rn

i havent played them or watched them in pro play enough

[fallen slate]

Whisphere skybot

[floral spindle]

Pure carry?

[fallen slate]

Now that is fun

[sour totem]

whisphere I feel like I'm just dogshit for no reason randomly instead of goiong "oh the bots being silly hehe"

[solemn lava]

na seems to think geist is way better tho

[floral spindle]

Geist

Warden is good asf

[fallen slate]

Smoothbot invincible impossible? Is not fun

[floral spindle]

Aswell

But I do prefer Geist

[sour totem]

This is a case of being too good you forget how normal players feel

You can read the bots

[fallen slate]

I like how these people are having a different conversation while we are complaining about scenarios

[sour totem]

you can deal with the bots

it's not an issue to you

[fallen slate]

Yeah but

Think about it like this

[sour totem]

There is no but dawny

[solemn lava]

i cant find the pick rates for the last dlns ggs

[fallen slate]

HEAR ME OUT

[floral spindle]

Ggz vro

[solemn lava]

also theres a new good team in eu

[fallen slate]

Since at the moment I am in a better position tracking wise to where I can fully explore both narratives, the scenario that prevents me from tracking good the most out of the two is smoothbot invincible just because of the design

[solemn lava]

lowkey W picked up lystic and sharyk so they could be p good

[floral spindle]

U got this bro

Can’t wait to watch ur scrims

[solemn lava]

they play leviathan first round today

[fallen slate]

THIS MEANS SOMETHING

[floral spindle]

What times

[solemn lava]

i needa get better in mm first

[floral spindle]

Time*

I’ll try to watch it

[solemn lava]

p late because its na

[floral spindle]

Ehh rip

[solemn lava]

i think they start like 9-10 ish

[fallen slate]

So going by this, if you could get over your reading problem which I think you should, statistically speaking you will have a better time on the scenario ignoring personal biasmness

[solemn lava]

so like 10-11 for u

but i could be wrong

im not entirely sure

[fallen slate]

Hmmm

[sour totem]

The issue is smoothbots dumbshit feels intentional

whisphere feels like a mistake.

[floral spindle]

Pretty sure around that time

[sour totem]

Think about it

[floral spindle]

I’m an hour ahead of you

It’s 11:53 rn

[sour totem]

I don't feel like I'm playing whisphere anymore when the bot starts being fucking braindead

[solemn lava]

yeah i think pros may like geist more..

[sour totem]

I still feel like I'm playing smoothbot when it does dumb shit because it feels like it was meant to do dumb shit

The bot itself makes sense

[solemn lava]

that was before gun nerfs too

when gun viscous was mets

meta

i always thought gun calico was better ngl and i still think gun calicos good

[floral spindle]

My wraith:(

[fallen slate]

Come on man (although I get the point) both scenarios can do bullshit no matter what the case is

[floral spindle]

Gun calico is just disgusting

[solemn lava]

calico still has insane gun scaling

so does pockett

pocket

[floral spindle]

She can burn ur hp and just hide

Bro

I went against a pocket once

[solemn lava]

like idk why people arent play gun calico

[floral spindle]

Only hun

3 taps me

[solemn lava]

yea

[floral spindle]

700 damage each shot

[solemn lava]

it was op last patch

[floral spindle]

I was like wtf

[solemn lava]

there items got nerfed

[floral spindle]

Am I watching

[solemn lava]

but idk

i think its still good ngl

they nerfed how much dmg/fire rate u get from abilities that give u those stats too

[sour totem]

I never said they can't that's quite literally my whole point

[solemn lava]

but i still think gun calico can be good

[sour totem]

at least one feels like it was meant to "contain" or encapsulate that bullshit

[floral spindle]

Bro I played against a grifter ivy

I have the ss posted here

[sour totem]

the other feels like I went to a fine dining meal and got served fucking chicken nuggets

[floral spindle]

930damagr at the end of the stat line

He went 3/9

[fallen slate]

I'm just saying that either way they're both going to do something stupid whether it feels like they're going to or not man!

[floral spindle]

Or something

[fallen slate]

I can't have someone I somewhat know playing smoothbot

Over whisphere

It can't happen man!

[solemn lava]

thats insane

[floral spindle]

No sorry

[solemn lava]

gun ivy is still my favourite character of all time they just gutted her gun smh

[floral spindle]

Viper

Look at this

That was one of my worst games

[solemn lava]

yea that shits insane

[floral spindle]

Aswell

I fed so hard

[sour totem]

Again the personal issue is I expect one to do dumbshit

[solemn lava]

gun vyper is one of the best anti carry characters in the game

[sour totem]

I don't expect whisphere to do dumbshit

[solemn lava]

she will kill u 5k souls down in a 1v1

[sour totem]

And that's the issue I have with all tracking

I expect shit when I shouldn't and it's whatever cause that's not going to stop cause Idk how to stop it

[solemn lava]

top bar plus how i love you

[sour totem]

It's not even prediction I feel

[solemn lava]

my favourite mod

[floral spindle]

Her utility helps tons

[floral spindle]

Hehe

[solemn lava]

yeah

idk who to play rn

[floral spindle]

I like thay mod

[solemn lava]

gonna play some para

see how it goes with randoms

[floral spindle]

Visc and shiv

Ohh wait nvm

No carries

[solemn lava]

im almost at the big 700 games

[floral spindle]

DaMn

[solemn lava]

street brawl inflated my games played alot

i was at like 550 before street brawl

[light pier]

should switching really be allocated 33% of the focus in playlists? I feel like its inferior to clicking and tracking if the playlist focuses on improving for a game

[cosmic skiff]

the early bird gets the worm

[sour totem]

You are vastly understimating the amount of switching you do in any given game simply because it's not all at a target.

[white palm]

switching is just fun

[light pier]

the very nature of switching being a target having a set amount of hp is already unrealistic

[gaunt shuttle]

...

[light pier]

i think its important to train memory to kick in when you see a target disappearing. The hp bar i think is not good. Even in games like overwatch with set hp, the target will do movements u cannot predict or react fast enough. So the brain just focuses in ur eyes to give the signal to change target

i dont wanna argue just debate what u guys think about it

[south parcel]

Dont let this guy hear abt pure reactivity

[sour totem]

Fun fact

that's that target switching is at a high level

[light pier]

isnt this a tracking thing tho?

[sour totem]

you're not staring at an hp bar

you're memorizing the amount of hits lmao

[light pier]

since i refer to aim training for improving at games and not about aim trainer at itself, i think its not a good thing. at high level u still have a timer in ur brain at 95% of the targets

even if the timer moves from the hits

[south parcel]

Tracking is part of switching

[light pier]

thats like the arguement of the chicken and the egg XD

[sour totem]

okay so play varied then idk gang

useless debate

[south parcel]

I adressed movement part im too lazy to quote it

[light pier]

i mean debates tend to be useless honestly

[light pier]

yea makes sense

[fallen slate]

You would be surprised how useful being good at switching is

[placid crystal]

Not even, if you land perfectly you can start moving to the next target almost immediately

Depending on the scenario of course

[sour totem]

I'm just not knowledgeable enough to atriculate why whatever you're saying is a bit silly so it's pointless

[fallen slate]

I find this interesting because I'm a coach and such things. I feel like switching itself can cover a lot of ground, like it can teach you how to track or simply stay committed smoothly to someone or it can teach you how to be fast and land well like static (because static switching)

[sour totem]

just go play varied variants if you care abou that

[light pier]

Its useful, but what im saying is that focusing 33% of the time on it would be worse than focusing lets say 45% on clicking and tracking respectively and then homing these two in 10% of the time in swiching, no?

[light pier]

i think static switching is on of the most important exercises for sure

[upper token]

I never play that shit….

[light pier]

i find it useful so i can stop at a target without rushing to click on it tbh

[fallen slate]

Well I think just in general It depends on context, like If we're talking about in games? I think tracking is the most important in general bc a really good tracker can be good at clicking but the inverse isn't true, A good switching player can be good at clicking and tracking to an extent giving context

My message is doubled

[south parcel]

Gg

[fallen slate]

Great

[light pier]

LOOOL

[sour totem]

nice double send bro

gg

[fallen slate]

SHOUT OUT TO DISCORD

BY THE WAY

[south parcel]

I think xp come every minute not messege

[upper token]

My speed is so shit i need to hop on glsss

[fallen slate]

I would also say maybe switching plays a big part because there's just so many different types You can pull value out of that you kind of have to include them

[south parcel]

Get glass for zcn method

[main compass]

icl clicking is so ass

im so unbelievably bad at it

[placid crystal]

I hate clicking with a passion

[fallen slate]

Bro

[light pier]

its purely about using aimtraining as a tool yes. Being good at switching sounds like a great thing, but i think switching should be used as a mere implementation of ur clicking and tracking exs. So no reason to forced a high commitment ratio in this. Because ur switching abilities rely a lot on clicking and tracking

[placid crystal]

Peak

[main compass]

is this guy real

[light pier]

honestly, sometimes i feel like its better to break somoething down to focus on the points that help the most. If u were to focus even more in clicking and tracking, wouldnt that help more to perform the motions for switching?

[sour totem]

at least I am pbing on tracking

[hollow spire]

next using left arm to aim train cus why not

[sour totem]

n o

cause you're not fucking switching

[main compass]

bro ur good at tracking

[light pier]

reminds me of that player who lifts weights every time he finishes a map

[main compass]

relax

[sour totem]

Yes there's correlation but it's not the damn same bro

[light pier]

u ARE. i said u will be commiting 10% of the time on switching

[sour totem]

Is their score any good

[placid crystal]

Just train all categories equally lmfao

[sour totem]

literally

like it's not that deep

you're going to improve by doing it

[light pier]

yall are not minmaxxers lmao

[sour totem]

There's nothing to fucking minmax

[light pier]

but i respect ur discipline

[fallen slate]

I was going to say something like this, if you break things down enough you can just get better at certain parts but at that point we're just talking about what would make you better faster bc I know people that are good at more evasive switching scenarios and because of that their tracking is pretty good

I have personal biases towards tracking

[sour totem]

I have personal biases towards minmaxxers

[fallen slate]

Genuinely believe tracking is like the root of all mouse control

[sour totem]

i think they suck the fun out of everything they ever touch

[light pier]

EXACTLY

[fallen slate]

But even then there's some things you just can't learn like dynamic pacing or learning how to pay high/ move your arm fast

[sour totem]

Heh...

HEHHEHE

I'm fucking ass compared to literally anyone better than me

like 1% better than me is a mile ahead

[light pier]

how come people dont use random hp bars for switching in scenarios for game improvement?

[sour totem]

Dude

what game are you playing

where like

[fallen slate]

Being a tracking main and a very good siege player. Tracking has genuinely helped me a lot BUT being pretty good at static switching was definitely a nice sweet touch, being able to move fast and land directly on people more often/ learning how to do this motion without tension fucking up things or how fluid I can move

[main compass]

thats not how taht works 😭

[sour totem]

There's so many targets that are random hp

[main compass]

im crying

[sour totem]

I'm so lost

[main compass]

ur funny bro

[sour totem]

@fallen slate

[fallen slate]

There is scenarios like this

[sour totem]

wrong reply

[main compass]

cod

🗣️

🗣️

[sour totem]

@fallen slate you understand yes?

[placid crystal]

Tbh siege is less about aim and more about positioning and game sense, you can have pretty bad aim and reach top ranks.

[fallen slate]

Most people that play kvk do it in a way where they care more about scores even if they are chasing in-game improvement which is just wrong

[sour totem]

Just switch to them like normal targets and switch off on killsound?

?

[light pier]

makes sense for sure

[sour totem]

It's all the same?

It's all switching

[fallen slate]

Hold up

[fallen slate]

R6 is primarily positioning and game sense but the difference between good players and really really good players is mechanics

[main compass]

im trying to make sense of this shit

[light pier]

well i dont really care about these players but u can say whatever u feel like it lmao

[fallen slate]

Mechanics will affect if you can trade someone out or how fast you can trade someone out which will affect the round entirely

[light pier]

LOL

[fallen slate]

I say the same thing pretty much every time

Just because it's mostly positioning or game sense does not mean you shouldn't neglect being mechanically better than the player you're playing against

[sour totem]

It's literally all switching my brain cannot comprehend this

The targets are random hp? still switching

[fallen slate]

Most people don't care about it and it makes me sad

[sour totem]

the targets are all full hp? still switching????

the targets are all half hp? STILL SWITCHING

[fallen slate]

Because then people like me come around who hasn't played competitively in a while but I can just win gunfights because I have more control than the other person as we are on equal playing ground positioning wise

[placid crystal]

Ofc you need to have good mechanics/aim to be a good player, if you want to use guns like smg11 or smg12 you need nasty aim

[light pier]

my idea is that if u were to use time to train, switching is the least important of the 3. idk why u are talking about switching being there always, when its literally made up of clicking and tracking

[fallen slate]

Given context yeah I get it

[placid crystal]

But it’s not as mechanically heavy like CS or Apex for example

[fallen slate]

I mean I care about both to be honest, I'm just separating the two and explaining to you why some players don't do these things for in-game improvement

[sour totem]

I'm struggling to wrap my head around switching is least important when I can break almost everything down to switching

[fallen slate]

I'm primarily a kvk player but I've been coaching professionally for a while

[sour totem]

Maybe I'm the silly one for being able to do that but it just makes sense

[fallen slate]

Started in r6 but I just jump everywhere nowadays

[light pier]

yea i mean of course right? Switching is a part of aim training like a trifecta. and im sure its fun for people who focus on aim like that

[upper token]

When did u start kovaaks

[south parcel]

Cs mechanical heavy im laughin

[twilit lance]

?

[main compass]

?

[placid crystal]

Hmm, it’s one of the most mechanical games lmfao..?

[south parcel]

No chance

[twilit lance]

bait

[south parcel]

Maybe gamesense heavy

[light pier]

i dont think u can do that

[twilit lance]

it’s bait

[fallen slate]

I agree with this, I don't think it requires the normal tactical FPS aim, someone that is pretty strong with tracking would get much further in R6 vs if they are good at static, cs seems like the opposite,

[twilit lance]

100%

[fallen slate]

Just an example

[placid crystal]

Ragebait used to be believable

[south parcel]

But low mechanical demanding

[sour totem]

@fallen slate

am I the weird one for this?

[placid crystal]

True dat

[sour totem]

probably

[light pier]

yes

[main compass]

i love asap rocky

[placid wave]

these people play valo

cs is high elo mechanics to them

[fallen slate]

Well If you play games like apex or tracking heavy games. Where you have to kill one player and switch to another. You would wish you were good at switching

[placid wave]

fuck wrong reply

[placid crystal]

We might have different definitions of “mechanics” but alright

[twilit lance]

can you even counter strafe

[south parcel]

How hard is pressing two buttons in fixed sync?

[twilit lance]

“to”

[fallen slate]

Switching is also a good scenario type for learning how to drop tension after initial movements which static can do? But it applies a little bit differently

[twilit lance]

n1

[placid crystal]

How hard is clicking a circle on a screen ahh logic

[fallen slate]

Sometimes it's a different approach for players that have that problem

[floral spindle]

@solemn lava the gpx is A BRICK BRO

im using it rn

[fallen slate]

But as always it depends on context

[floral spindle]

for the shape

[light pier]

yea thats fair. i dont wanna type too much so ill leave u for now XD

[fallen slate]

2 years ago pretty much

[south parcel]

Dude you could say bunny hop.

[umbral bough]

still cant believe this

lmao

[south parcel]

Its still relatively easy

[cosmic skiff]

team mvp with 0 kills

[fallen slate]

I was super inconsistent when I started out

[upper token]

U said u got tremors right?

[cosmic skiff]

are u in hell

[fallen slate]

Like playing and then leaving it for months

[south parcel]

But counter strafing 😭

[fallen slate]

Yeah

From nerve damage

[upper token]

I feel like being consistant is so important

[fallen slate]

Yes

[upper token]

Damn crazy u still got astra W

[fallen slate]

But like most people I didn't even know what I was doing so not getting better made me demotivated

But nowadays I'm super obsessed

[twilit lance]

i know it’s easy, i just don’t think you’re intelligent enough to perform one.

[upper token]

What mistakes were u making

[fallen slate]

I'm not finished either

[placid wave]

man i hate valorant with a passion that game is everything what is wrong with modern gaming

[frank lance]

sybau

[fallen slate]

My goal right now is being the 2nd best player in the US by a good bit and continuing my Gap with tracking but

That's a work in progress

[south parcel]

Be grateful were in secured chat

[placid crystal]

There’s a difference between counter strafing and counter strafing AND hitting ur shots consistently

[placid wave]

Shit low CS ability spam game

[south parcel]

Cuz id call you slurs already

[placid crystal]

So yeah, but I thought it was implied

[fallen slate]

Neglecting practice, good practice. Actually trying to nail down the things I was bad at and instead I would just Spam benchmark scenarios

[upper token]

And here i am just chasing gmc 😭

[fallen slate]

Hoping to just PB

[south parcel]

Still not very hard

[sour totem]

CS players struggle to fathom people can think their game isn't mechanically demanding

[fallen slate]

Grinding is much better when you take your time and trying to get better at the scenarios that are good for what you're trying to get better at

It literally comes together so easily

[upper token]

If im like worst at static do i need to just focus on that

[twilit lance]

https://tenor.com/view/gdfactory-aura-tuff-skull-emoji-gif-184205210601505210

dweeb

[twilit lance]

true

[fallen slate]

Yeah I think you should be the same rank all around, don't let your categories get more than one rank behind

Maybe when you start getting better

Lol

[upper token]

Im master tracking and plat static man 😭

[sage tusk]

so what youre saying is i have to play dynamic and reactive until im sentient

💔

[fallen slate]

High nova/Astra You can just play whatever or play what you're mostly passionate about (do this no matter what the case is I'm thinking about an objective optimal standpoint right now)

[upper token]

I really need focus static smh

[fallen slate]

But

If you look at my sheet, it sucks having to spend so much time on scenarios you don't like bc you neglected them early on

And you can be a much better player all around since everything compliments each other

In one way or another

[south parcel]

Tacfps's never were "highly" mechanicly dependant ur js larping.

[upper token]

Yh i can see that

[placid wave]

https://fixupx.com/vF_Zeeq/status/1187409563307446277

Zeeq (@vF_Zeeq)

Aim heavy CSGO VS Not so aim heavy games.

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FixupX · Oct 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

[lament mauve]

What's the average hours people hit grandmaster at?

[fallen slate]

You don't have to one trick them

This is a really good idea by the way

You should separate your categories by days

This is what I do and it's much easier

[south parcel]

Play quake and compare mechanics in these games

[cosmic skiff]

i don't see how people think aiming in cs is harder than val

[south parcel]

To get glimpse

[fallen slate]

To like actually lock in and improve at those things

[sage tusk]

the drop off is kinda big

[fallen slate]

Also keeps it interesting

[cosmic skiff]

i feel like the heads are like 1.5x bigger in cs

[placid wave]

valo player 😭

[fallen slate]

CS movement is a lot more annoying

Faster if you will

[rancid cypress]

same size as val

[placid wave]

bro spam more abilities and util bro don't even need to shoot your gun

[twilit lance]

it’s the same shit tbh, one requires more spraying, other requires more bursting

[rancid cypress]

but movement in cs feels faster

[fallen slate]

Val It's very easy to aim in imo

[sour totem]

😭

[upper token]

I cant aim in val

In cs its fine

[fallen slate]

Yeah It's like that sometimes

If you are used to playing one then

Idk

[cosmic skiff]

the hitmarkers in val tho

[twilit lance]

you don’t know what larping means

[sour totem]

idk I go to cs I shoot the same

[south parcel]

Its what your doing now

[sour totem]

the only issue I have to rely more on raw aim cause idk maps well

[cosmic skiff]

i was having an op battle and got a bodyshot and it did no damage and i died

[twilit lance]

how?

[cosmic skiff]

😿

[twilit lance]

what am i larping?

[south parcel]

Cuz ur takes are ass

[sage tusk]

buzz word speed run

[twilit lance]

💀

[upper token]

Dawny what game u play?

[south parcel]

An idiot ofc

[sour totem]

r6

[rancid cypress]

thats not what larp mean jit

[twilit lance]

pseudo sentient animal person

[cosmic skiff]

what are we talking about

[upper token]

Ive never tried that game

[olive dew]

larp larp larp

[placid wave]

tac shooter players aren't real bro

[twilit lance]

it’s a quote from a rust video

mnie tak tak tak

[fallen slate]

I play a bit of everything, r6 is my " main game" and or the game I'm known for but I quite enjoy cod and bf

Most of the time I play story games tho

I also like dead by daylight

Have a lot of hours there

[upper token]

Do u like new cod?

[fallen slate]

Yeah it's chill

[sage tusk]

@upper token pick

[sour totem]

ew

not abbreviating it?

[sage tusk]

the movement is fun

[fallen slate]

Getting switching clips feels satisfying in bo7

Something about the hit markers

Like

The game feels punchy

If that makes any sense at all

[hushed patrol]

Will you play arsenal with me pretty please 🥹

[upper token]

What is this

[upper token]

Yh

[sage tusk]

my sheet 😭

[fallen slate]

I just type it out because people might not know what I'm talking about

[twilit lance]

image

[placid wave]

man i wish i liked tac shooters like CS tho

[fallen slate]

If I just say Dbd

[fallen slate]

Nooo

People over there are weird

[sour totem]

if someone doesn't know dbd it's a saving grace

[upper token]

Play vox

[cosmic skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567133725498933248/1459724547409580189/dlakBot.gif

[rancid cypress]

dbd fell off ngl

[hushed patrol]

Wow

[fallen slate]

Hey now (you are 100% correct)

[sour totem]

you're doing people a favor by abbreviating it

[placid wave]

playing ow and apex or any other high ttk shooter is cancer because the publishers always cater to bots and make their game shit

[upper token]

Sadly true

[twilit lance]

trvke

[fallen slate]

Zeonlo

Hit a crazy score today

We should all go on his Twitter and check it out

[olive dew]

there’s legit arsenal players?

[cosmic skiff]

yes 💗

[sour totem]

when will zeonlo post more val clips bro

[fallen slate]

2k 1w6 on aimlab

[twilit lance]

tomorrow

[olive dew]

I may have to look into this

[placid wave]

like in apex and other games they add abilities that just do crazy dmg or give you wallhack sniper or bow that just removes so much skill and gunplay

[sour totem]

pablo do you enjoy literally anything?

[fallen slate]

We're never going to get a game where mechanics is the number one priority without random bullshit

[cosmic skiff]

deadass

[sour totem]

I've not seen you say a single posititve take

[twilit lance]

just don’t play them

[fallen slate]

Bro

[cosmic skiff]

i wish theyd remove bots from fortnite ranked

[fallen slate]

If you don't play them you have nothing to play

😭

[twilit lance]

minecraft

[placid wave]

then play what bro just play quake lg everyday ?

[twilit lance]

find sum else bro😭

[cosmic skiff]

i was lowkey in my fortnite era but i don't feel like grinding thru bot lobbies for a week to get to unreal for some actual people

[fallen slate]

Pablo I got it

[placid wave]

I enjoy games a lot bro its just they are all durning to shit

[fallen slate]

Hop on roomscape

[sour totem]

Or is your mentality turning to shit?

[sage tusk]

you could just play games for fun man

[sour totem]

If everything is shit is it on everyone else or you?

[fallen slate]

Boring

[twilit lance]

osrs players r all 30

[sour totem]

I think atp it's a you issue

[fallen slate]

Even if I play for fun if I don't absolutely fucking fry the other person I'm not having fun

[placid wave]

nah bro

[placid crystal]

Woke up and chose violence

[sage tusk]

hop on cyberpunk

[fallen slate]

I love cyberpunk

I can't say why though

[cosmic skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/fap-beat-my-meat-beat-meat-need-dat-lebron-james-gif-16570753

[fallen slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dbd-dead-by-daylight-vee-boonyasak-tamborine-gif-268133210690517184

[sage tusk]

i know what kinda of man you are

[sour totem]

dawny is a gooner

[fallen slate]

I'm the honest one

[twilit lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629200393804578816/1461249817287069861/GyAXdP5aUAA_PjH.gif

[fallen slate]

I don't pretend to be someone else

BRO

WHAT ARE THESE GIFS MAN

[cosmic skiff]

wow

[upper token]

Ong

[sour totem]

yo wtf is thiS LMAO

[dense fossil]

lmfaooooooo

[cosmic skiff]

who's that

[twilit lance]

zywoo

[upper token]

https://tenor.com/view/twerking-twerking-emoji-dancing-gif-10187634524786712880

[fallen slate]

Like what excuse do you possibly have to do this

Unless you're scratching your thigh

[sour totem]

he's scratching his balls dawny

[twilit lance]

it’s how he got number 1 hltv

[upper token]

Not the stake on shirt LMAOOO

[sour totem]

think about it

[twilit lance]

it’s the secret method

[frank lance]

gooning

[cosmic skiff]

chat what color is white

[fallen slate]

What about the pinch and pull method

[sour totem]

What?

[placid wave]

Look at modern gaming its all shitty easy versions of games made by incompetent people that have mouse accel and smoothing on release with horrible performance

[fallen slate]

Oh

You don't know about the

Pinch and pull?

[cosmic skiff]

have you ever been happy

[fallen slate]

Oh man

Let me tell you.

[solemn lava]

i use it permanently

[twilit lance]

dudes like 13 and this angry

[solemn lava]

i like heavier mice ngl

[fallen slate]

Next time you have to scratch your no no square, pinch and pull brother

[sage tusk]

are u male or female v

[cosmic skiff]

he on his period

[upper token]

Try op1

[fallen slate]

I am a male

[floral spindle]

@hushed patrol

LOL

[placid wave]

yeah when i was competing

[floral spindle]

too heavy for me man

[fallen slate]

Do I give female vibes

[floral spindle]

im goin from small 36g to OPX

[sour totem]

yes

[fallen slate]

Everyone thought I was a girl before

[floral spindle]

GPX
'

[cosmic skiff]

what were you competing in

[fallen slate]

Shit they still do

[sage tusk]

nonon in cyberpunk

[placid wave]

apex

[cosmic skiff]

ya

[frank lance]

must be the name

[fallen slate]

Oh

[solemn lava]

@floral spindle i just had a seven on my team full troll my game he just didnt listen to my comms my team listen to him waste all rejuvs i say not to fight mid they fight them 4v6 lose ofc then they get midboss and we lose the game

[white palm]

dawnqt...

[sage tusk]

😭

[fallen slate]

Female

LMAO

[sage tusk]

okok

[solemn lava]

like if these fuckass players just listened to me instead of having an ego

[sage tusk]

i see

[fallen slate]

You weren't specific bro what the hell

[solemn lava]

we win so easily

i hate random players bro

[sour totem]

@fallen slate I remember one of the first messages you directed at me was "we rated your profile as one of the most eboy profiles in voltaic"

[twilit lance]

sadness, he has now started to climb the anger ranks.

[fallen slate]

Everyone is so mean to me

[sage tusk]

i said v man 😭

[solemn lava]

i used to use g305 99g

[floral spindle]

its always the SEVEN BRO

[fallen slate]

Oh

[floral spindle]

ITS ALWAYS THEM<,.

[cosmic skiff]

anger complete

[fallen slate]

Yoyo I'm kind of stupid

[solemn lava]

even the viscous on other team said the seven lost us the game

[fallen slate]

I'm more than positive it was

People call me the e-boy all the time for something I can't control

[floral spindle]

i did too bro

[fallen slate]

But yeah this guy runs around with a profile like that

[solemn lava]

like bro what are we doingg

[floral spindle]

but ive been on lighter mice

for a bit

now

kinda got used to it

[sour totem]

my profile wasn't even bad bro wtf

[fallen slate]

I'll be damned if I let that shit go

[solemn lava]

only lighter mouse ivve used is hts 4k

[twilit lance]

physicalabuse 3w2ts pb

[fallen slate]

This is cope

[sour totem]

AT LEAST I'M NOT POSTING HAND PICS ON MY TWITTER

[fallen slate]

I don't remember it

[sour totem]

OR HORNY POSTING

[fallen slate]

I LOST A FUCKING BET

[rancid cypress]

wait

[fallen slate]

YOU DID THAT SHIT WILLINGLY

[sour totem]

THAT'S SOME REAL EBOY SHIT

[rancid cypress]

is this the hand guy

[fallen slate]

YOU DID IT WILLINGLY

[cosmic skiff]

wtf is horny posting

[fallen slate]

I DID NOT HAVE FREE WILL

[sage tusk]

voxts is not for me po

[upper token]

When i went from gpx to 39g i deadass couldnt aim at first😭

[sour totem]

Actually I did tbh

[solemn lava]

i actually hate these randoms bro like my comm was right and i know for a fact it was and these fucking idiots just do the opposite and lose me the game like

[fallen slate]

AT THE TIME OF THE HAND POST

[sour totem]

Some woman said "post your hands for a nude"

and I took it

[rancid cypress]

that shit came up on my timeline n i dont even follow any aim shit

[twilit lance]

not even crazy

[sour totem]

It's literally what it is

[fallen slate]

I'm very sorry

[sage tusk]

no you arent

[fallen slate]

People recognize me in val

[sour totem]

YOU STILL RADIATE MORE EBOY ENERGY THAN I DO

[fallen slate]

Worst month of my life

[sour totem]

ESPECIALLY NOW BRO

[fallen slate]

I only played the game with my friend and felt like every other game it was " wait are you the hand guy?"

My God bro

[cosmic skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speedy-ohio-ohio-shock-ishowspeed-ohio-shock-gif-15690171232340146577

[sour totem]

Did anyone slide into your dms tho

[rancid cypress]

ruined reputation

[fallen slate]

Idk about that

[sour totem]

I feel like someone HAD to

[fallen slate]

Dude

[sour totem]

Knowing twitter

[fallen slate]

I joined a raw input VC with my friend and the moment I talk they're like " ultimate Swift play eboy"

[sour totem]

Everyone thinks I'm a girliepop nowadays

[fallen slate]

That shit is not a flex bro

I'm trying to work on this 😭

[upper token]

I feel like micros are better on lighter

[fallen slate]

This is a problem

[cosmic skiff]

why people hate on swift so much

[fallen slate]

I hate this more than everyone else

[twilit lance]

cap

[sour totem]

Dawny do you have an attractive voice too

are you like full stuck in it now

[fallen slate]

Because it's ultimate edating/ you just find corny stuff there

[sour totem]

cause if you posted hand pics

and a semi attractive voice

you're fucked

[fallen slate]

So I have been told

[sour totem]

you're never getting out

Yeah

you're clocked forever

ggs

Sorry bro

it's your only thing

[twilit lance]

next is boyfriend asmr videos on youtube

[cosmic skiff]

i only get lesbians on my team

[fallen slate]

I do have a clip on my Twitter

Somewhere don't go looking for it now

Of

Me giving ASMR in the background so my friend can win

A round

[sour totem]

A lot of casual players that are way too friendly and willing to slut themselves out

[fallen slate]

But I've never posted that alone

[twilit lance]

dawnycames

[sour totem]

yk what

Dawny you're right

I'm more eboy than you

I'd do asmr for money

[fallen slate]

No shit

See

I mean we all knew this already but

I mean come on

[cosmic skiff]

i got some asmr guy in my swiftplay before bro

his name was boyfriend asmrtist

and he had some weird ass videos bro

[fallen slate]

Like fork found in kitchen

[cosmic skiff]

like 4 of them was based on u being pregnant

[twilit lance]

we suckin pipe for a hunnid bro😭😭👀