health

[north violet]

chair 40 cm from the floor, desk 70 cm, and i'm 180cm

chair might be the problem, but my grip is the bigger suspect

[night patrol]

i have no fucking idea about measurements

[boreal spoke]

do you guys know if running is enough as your only source of exercise?

I remember I used to play a lot better when I used to lift weights

[eternal abyss]

You don't have to do bodybuilding, but getting in some lifts to strengthen your muscles will help you to keep good posture and play without pain.

[acoustic sigil]

Hello does anyone know how I can make my wrist and arm withstand more playtime? Over the course of the day I can only play for around 4 hours before my hand starts fatiguing and I start underperforming (feels slow and hard to move) i stretch after every game (I play valorant, so around 4+ batches of stretching for that 4 hours). I also started aimtraining after my playtime and my hand has been feeling more fatigued by the day. I really wanna grind more without my hands deteriorating by the day. Any tips?

[eternal abyss]

you can train the muscles in your forearm/wrist with according exercises. check out the 1HP youtube, they have videos on these.

[foggy sundial]

Hello! I had tendinopathy the past weeks and today everything feels like it should again. I only got a very very minor pain in my wrist still.

When and how do you guys think should I get back into training again?

[winged burrow]

If I feel any pain on my wrist I personally don’t aim train till it’s 100% gone

[rose thunder]

i just got back again in aim training after covid recovery and im taking my time slowly improving again but it feels like im starting from the scratch my arm still feels heavy and my reaction time is so slow like back when i had covid

trouble concentrating 😔

[violet swan]

how decrease chance of getting hand injury?

[tacit storm]

Check the wrist stretch and posture guide in #resources. Take frequent breaks and avoid tensing up for extended periods of time.

[deep warren]

Caffeine helps me but it's not rly the best solution

[thin vine]

Anyone here good with ADHD and stuff related to that? Second, I noticed that I had to move my monitor far back to the point the back of my monitor stand touches my wall. This seems to have helped my gridshot scores, but I'm nearsighted to the point where I need to lean forward to get those improved scores (78k vs 69k-72k). Is this the point where I need to get a monitor arm? I've been looking for one but I learned that I may also need to get a new desk

^putting this under health since it's ultimately a posture thing

I also wonder if this is just a matter of starting to wear my corrective lenses when gaming, but I can't help but think that's a bit problematic in the long run

[violet swan]

Hello. During the past years i've developed (probably because of shitty chairs during my office job) a muscular pain in this area. I don't really know precisely what muscles is aching, but even after months of complete stop from both gaming and working as soon as i start working with my right arm or aim with it for several days in a row a kinda acute pain starts coming in there, which i only feel if i move my arm. I've tried countless of stretches and movements during all this time but it didn't have any effect. has anyone had experience with this pain? My finances right now are not the best and I don't know if i can afford therapists so i wanted to know if someone knew at least some good stretches to make the pain a bit less, cause sometimes even studying with my pc becomes stressing with it.

[fading pier]

I think you should visit a doctor. And therapists are people to help you mentally mostly if im not wrong even if they have a degree

[maiden seal]

I think he was referring to a physical therapist

[fading pier]

ah okay

then that makes sense I guess

I never knew theres physical therapist

[spark jewel]

yo gamers! I wanted to extend an invitation to anyone interested in joining me on my show Checkpoint where you and I can sit down and try to explore and improve your mental for about an hour. we can talk about your tilt, your training schedule, or maybe that thing that gets in your way from climbing
Here’s a sample of my recent show:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1194441544
lmk if you're interested and tell your friends!

[ashen rune]

Careful with adjusting stretches so it "hurts more" to "get in there more" if you do them without the advice of a doctor. Personal experience lol.

[thorn matrix]

Hey all - 1HP is live right now going through a full body stretching routine so if you want to take a break and get moving with us

lets get it

[slow flint]

Hi, how do I know which desk height and chair height are right for me?

[red salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyhzcJTqxs4

lately i have seen big improvements and so i just got wrist pain, im tensing a bit but not too much and when i barelly hold my mouse i still feel it, what should i do?

[slender torrent]

i woke up this morning with an extremely sore wrist on my mouse hand and advice?

[fading pier]

pain in this area

could anyone have any idea why?

[cosmic folio]

does anybody have a video that i can watch on hand stretches for wrist pain, I've been getting wrist pain a little and its bothers me very much.

[modern night]

https://bit.ly/wristandpostureguide @cosmic folio

There’s a YouTube vid within

[storm tundra]

I feel sharp pains in my right wrist when im doing target switching scenarios

[cosmic folio]

thank you 🙏🏼

[violet swan]

does grip matter when it comes to health for ur fingers or wrist? like, could i use any grip as long as it doesnt directly hurt?

[sonic seal]

Hi, is there a way to routinely self-diagnose hand/wrist health, or would seeking a physiotherapist be better? If so, what sources are there?

[eternal abyss]

1hp had a video about it. palm is the easiest on the hands, but claw and fingertip is alright aswell. just make sure you keep a neutral wrist position

[limber adder]

generally im pretty sure you cant self diagnose

you should ask a professional imo

[violet swan]

ok

i m guessing then one finger claw and one finger palm for e.g isnt very good health wise?

[eternal abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npnWqV-vGI&ab_channel=1HP

[sonic seal]

Hm yeah I mean preferably if it's a professional, idk where to even stary looking for an esports physiotherapist in my city, but thanks for the response

[limber adder]

maybe try just looking through the 1hp youtube things

https://www.youtube.com/c/1HPorg/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY&list=PLcfMAtSMnESfTusR3S0ZH13rwktAK5ZvX

a playlist

[broken hull]

Hello guys, when I do aim training in kovaak, I always get pain in my upper back (side of my mouse), idk why

am i gripping my mouse too hard ? should I play relaxed ? i don't perform very well if I don't grip my mouse hard but it's stressful

[eternal abyss]

back pain doesnt come from gripping your mouse too hard

its prob your posture

if it happens, check on how you sit. do you have round shoulders for example or hunchback

[broken hull]

no I take care of my posture

I even exercise

And I have no back problem except when focusing hard on my aim

[eternal abyss]

yeah but when you are under pressure and fully focused on something else, you might be in a weird position or something

or you tense up in your back

[broken hull]

Yea probably, I should be relaxed every time ?

even when trying hard ?

[eternal abyss]

yes

you want to put enough pressure on your mouse for control, but not overtense

[modest hinge]

when I slowly lower the wrist/palm on the desk it vibrates (in a default arm position forearm is on the table and etc) should that be like that ?

[storm tundra]

I keep having hand pain and low scores when doing popcorn voltaic easy what do i do

[rose thunder]

my right shoulder(aiming arm) keeps lifting up and i noticed my aim gets shaky or tensed maybe

any help is it because of my posture or maybe table?

[winged burrow]

The more you play the less the shakyness will get, probably lifting ur shoulder from feeling tense or tryna put pressure to feel comfortable from being shaky.

Do our smoothness routine

s-routines

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cORiFefxaTxULk1RffPtZht2tUNQkGBv9oiPc_qWlCI/mobilebasic

Smoothness and precision

[rose thunder]

thank you! ive actually been doing smoothness playlist for 3 days now

😋

[violet swan]

How does this grip look health wise?

[sudden granite]

Looks weird and sort of like you're trying to give us the finger discreetly

Really though I'd say as long as you're not tensing or feeling strain it's probably fine

[violet swan]

Lmao. If only. But thanks

[lone heart]

carpals shaking when i do very fast and reactive aim training, why is thius?

[eternal abyss]

in the picture it looks like you have a slight external rotation in your wrist. maybe its just a bad shot, but make sure you keep it in a neutral position

[violet swan]

Yeh, my mouse is usually under the monitor so to get a good shot i had to just hold it to the right tho. Thanks anyways

[unreal flax]

Should i be concerned with a tingling feeling that happens every now and then

It is on the bottom left of my wrist

[pulsar niche]

stop playing with pain and address the issues causing it

looking at your message history: you are playing 2 hours a day thats already too much

you dont have enough desk space and your mousepad is way too small so you probably arent playing with an optimal posture

and yeah watching your handcam video you are primarily aiming with your wrist because of the small mousepad, way too much ulnar deviation

no wonder you get pain

[storm burrow]

How long does it take for numbness to go away in the 4th and 5th finger? Have had it in my middle finger a bit as well and since a few days ago I quit using my pc and started exercises and resting to help it heal.

[eternal abyss]

tingling means, the nerve is compressed somewhere. its not really comparable to an injury as much. it will go away, when you provide decompression to the according area. for the 4th and 5th finger, it doesnt have to be in your hand, but can also be in the shoulder area.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HDX4S448-E0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W5I4fsd_1M&t=1438s&ab_channel=1HP

check out these 2 videos for some exercises

[storm burrow]

Alrighty, I'll try them out. Thanks.

[young sky]

Why do my fingers start to hurt after only a short time of playing I do my stretches before I play

[storm tundra]

I'll lower it down to 30

[pulsar niche]

lower what down to 30?

you need more desk space

thats from your handcam video

get a bigger mousepad, adjust your sens in a way where you aim more with your arm and avoid radial and ulnar deviation atleast in that extreme way you are doing in that picture

[storm tundra]

my time is what i meant. I'm on purchasing a new mousepad right now

[pulsar niche]

ah okay good, wouldnt hurt to do some stretches either look at the pins in this channel

[olive terrace]

can any1 help with some eye issues?

i get this stabbing pain my eyes sometimes

like when u dont get enough sleep , u get eye pain , that sort

I am assuming it's cause my eyes are strained from looking at my computer for too long

any1 know any solution?like how often I should take breaks?or how i can fix that?

[split hull]

i've been messing around with ergonomics for a couple months now so I might be able to help.

how close is your face to the monitor? Try sitting farther back a bit and see if it helps with eye strain.

if it doesn't, you could also adjust screen brightness. It might be too high.

Another option is a program like flux that lowers bluelight of the screen later in the day. Windows has it's own option for this too but I forgot what its called. It will look very yellow the first day but you get used to it and not notice it after a couple of days.

other things to consider:
are you sitting correctly?
is your desk proper height for your chair height?

if your desk is too high, you might be leaning forward in tense situations without realising.

this can cause your neck and shoulders to strain more than usual

also since leaning forward is putting you closer to the screen, you might be squinting more leading to eye strain

[olive terrace]

@split hull well i do lean forward in intense situations when i am playing valorant ,also there are small targets and I am about 2 feet away from my monitor so I do have to lean in

[split hull]

The recommended minimum distance is about 2ft. But everyone also has different levels of near/far sightedness so adjustments are naturally made.

Also since you play Valorant a lot, I'm assuming you lean in while holding angles and focusing hard on the area around your crosshair? If you do, you could try looking away at something far in your room in between rounds to relax your eyes.

I used to do the same thing, but in fps games that are not tac shooters, I'm not holding angles much so I don't really lean in anymore.

If you've been having this problem for a long time though, I would go see a doctor first. There could be other underlying issues you're not aware of.

[olive terrace]

@split hull hmm,ok I'll go see the doctor maybe.Cause I used like eye pain when i was younger but it was rarely.But,during high school I didn't have much time to sleep juggling between schools and other stuff,so I slept like 2-3 hours a day or sometimes almost not sleeping for 2 days.After doing that for a year my body crashed one day and I been getting this ever since

now I sleep a lot better with good hours but I still sometimes wake up with this feeling

tbh it could be that or just my eye strain from video games who knows

[young sky]

How do I stop getting burn out so easy on every game I play idk why it happens it just randomly happens like yesterday I was having a lot of fun for the past 2 weeks I have had a lot of fun but today I don’t want to play the game and want to play a different game but all the other games I played I was burnt out of them as-well ( I am pretty active guy that has hobbies etc)

Normal answers ( don’t want to sound disrespectful) take a break I’ve done that multiple times each time I come back worse and get burnt out easier find a new hobby I have two hobbies try a different game I have tried over 20 this year play less I have done that I still get burnt out easily try play a different game genre I have tried majority of them I only like pvp and shooting games not warzone 🤮 and I don’t know what else to do should I just accept it ?

[maiden seal]

If you dont find them fun then gaming is prolly not for you

no need to force something you dont enjoy

[novel whale]

i guess it's time to accept being a casual gamer 😔

but really u need motivation if u don't have that you will most likely not find any game that will keep you engaged all the time

if u just wanna play for fun with different games i guess casual it is

[dapper kelp]

Im the same

[young sky]

I don’t want to play “casual” I want to play a higher level of gaming

[dapper kelp]

I just stop until I feel like playing again

Its not an obligation to play videogames

🤷‍♂️

[young sky]

It feels like it

[dapper kelp]

Its not

[young sky]

Not in a weird way

When I’m saying it but if I’m not playing games idk what else to do (I don’t think we allowed to have conversation here but I understand what you are saying)

[dapper kelp]

Yeah I havent really found a solution to that

The best ive come up with is just accept, at least for the time being, that youll get bored of things quickly and make peace with it

[young sky]

I grew up playing games since I was like 5 or 6 I didn’t play much I normally watched my brother and cousins play but now when I’m not gaming it just feels weird and not uncomfortable bit extreme to say that but I hope I’m making sense and I bought a pc now I’ve always wanted one so I kinda feel like I wasted my money

[dapper kelp]

Yeah I get you

Its not necessarily a problem that has a solution

[young sky]

I just got to accept it I guess

[dapper kelp]

At least thats the best Ive come up with

Perhaps there is a better way to go about it

Who knows

[young sky]

There probably is an answer to it you just got to wait and see

Probably an internal answer ( not trying to sound weird)

[dapper kelp]

Yee

I think so too

Dw you dont sound weird

[eternal abyss]

Go find something new you enjoy. Right now, you just play, because you don't know what else to do and because of the feel of waste of money. If you don't have the drive to compete/play, you won't get better. Keep going like this won't make you happy.

[young sky]

@eternal abyss

[young sky]

@eternal abyss

[young sky]

Thanks bro appreciate it

[young sky]

How do I know I won’t regret my decision in the future

[eternal abyss]

Why should you regret your decision, if you are happy, compared to not being happy?

[young sky]

I think I will regret it

I don’t want to take the risk of just waiting to see what will happen

[eternal abyss]

it doesnt mean you have to quit gaming completely. but just forcing yourself to play a lot without the right mindset wont get you anywhere. just take a few days off to think about what you would like to do, what you enjoy and what your drive to play video games is.

[uncut kernel]

So you're just gonna play games while being bored/hating it?

[eternal abyss]

think about it this way: if you dont enjoy playing, what do you have to lose

[uncut kernel]

Yeah what's the point of doing something you don't enjoy? That's like telling someone who doesn't enjoy reading to read a book a day

[young sky]

Will do but what should I think about it like idk what to say to myself

[young sky]

Tbh when you put it that way but I don’t hate games or bored I’m just burnt out tbh with you

[uncut kernel]

Are you sure you're burnt out and not depressed or something then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9u9KTZGBDs

[young sky]

I wouldn’t call my self depressed I’m only 15 I don’t really see myself as someone that could be depressed idk what that really means tbh with you is it when your really sad and stuff and sit in bed ?

[rose thunder]

bruh im dying my shoulder keeps lifting up and it hurts now like my shoulders tensing up so much i think

[uncut kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSHOlvAlm8

[young sky]

This video was good but I didn’t learn much from it I can’t relate tbh cause I don’t have a job etc

[thorn haven]

A job will definitely make you appreciate playing games more

From experience

[young sky]

I’m not old enough but I help my dad sometimes with his work

[young sky]

Like the lady in the video I don’t want to self diagnose but I don’t want to really answer cause it might lead to a self diagnose if that makes sense and I don’t want that

What would somebody do to get it check out tho

[eternal abyss]

talk to a psychologist

[young sky]

Idk how to ask my parents those types of questions idk why I feel awkward when talking about anything like this to them or just alot of stuff in general but I would rather not get into that online

[eternal abyss]

its like that for a lot of people. you dont have to talk to your parents about everything. thats what psychologists are there for. they are not allowed to talk to others about it and you dont have a relationship to them. the first step is always the hardest, but you got this.

[young sky]

How would I go to a psychologist if I don’t feel comfortable enough to ask my parents if I can go to one (not trying to sound disrespectful here btw thanks for the help)

I sometimes don’t know how to word stuff properly and it comes out to sound disrespectful

I don’t mean it

[eternal abyss]

thats what i mean with the hard first step. its not a weakness to seek for help. its a sign of strength in my eyes atleast and for a lot of others too. i dont know, where you are from, how healthcare works there and if there are psychologists you can talk to for free without telling your parents, but you probably wont get around that

[young sky]

Thanks for the encouragement I really appreciate it but I don’t think I’m ready yet to take a big step like that in my life I will just wait until I’m 18 and can go by myself to see a professional about it

[novel whale]

burnout from gaming and you're 15

impossible tbh

maybe health problems u don't know so it's better to get a professional help

[supple junco]

Very possible to get burnout from gaming at his age.

Reason is because of how accessible technology is these days now and they dont appreciate things anymore.

[novel whale]

because you know kid = energy 100% unless complications

[supple junco]

When i was 15 i had a bad laptop and id play gta 4 at like 12 fps and enjoy the shit out of it

I appreciated things more when i dont have something

After acquiring a gaming pc, everything is just dull and boring, all the new games just seems boring after a few hours.

[supple junco]

Games are just shit these days u cant blame him. His standards are probs too high and games just cant match the standards anymore

[supple junco]

Ur mindset is very important at ur age. In a few years ur gonna be studying for exams which basically decides ur future. If u dont improve ur mindset, ur gonna be in a very bad habit of procrastinating and most likely ending up depressed because you have no motivation. You should definitely talk to someone about this. It doesnt have to be a medical professional. You could ask your family members like older brothers or sisters or talk to ur friends at school and ask what they do after school etc. Consider motivating urself into improving on something. try getting into boxing, basketballet or AIM TRAINING!! (SUPER FUN). Anyways,i highly recommend talking to someone about this as ive experienced this aswell. Feel free to friend me on discord and we can talk about this.

[young sky]

I have no irl friends and idk how to aim train I just do random stuff on kovaaks how would I do it properly I have exams in 2 weeks from now it’s not finals it’s mid terms and what do I even talk about like I am burnt out from gaming or something or what (sorry if that last part sounded kinda disrespectful I don’t mean it)

[young sky]

What am I feeling then ?

I am pretty confused

[young sky]

I have hobbies aswell like cooking and boxing

[vapid quail]

You mentioned not being able to talk to your parents. How is your relationship with them?

[young sky]

Awkward tbh we only talk about the basic stuff like how was school and what we going to eat or go outside to eat

[vapid quail]

Maybe that could be playing a role. Do you have anyone you can talk to? Also is your relationship with your parents "I just live with them" or "they are harmful to be around"?

[young sky]

No no not harmful they don’t hit me or do any of that stuff

But I don’t have anyone I can talk to about this type of stuff I don’t have any irl friends (not trying to make you feel bad for me or not trying to sound weird) but my old freinds I talk to not that much and I don’t think I can have this type of conversation with them cause we aren’t as close

[vapid quail]

I completely understand man. I was in your same position. I couldn't tell my parents anything. If you brought this issue up with your parents, how would they react? I think a doctor's visit is probably the best thing you could do right now. Any form of depression-like symptoms can be caused by dozens of health complications, like nutrient deficiency, sleep apnea, etc. It's imperative you correct this early in life because, like me, you'll end up wasting years because you can't do anything.

[young sky]

If I were to ask they would say why would you be depressed you have everything etc and like you can’t be depressed etc or anything like this they would say it’s a waste of time to go doctors one thing I’m always told is I always look at the negatives in life by giving my opinion but I don’t think I’m saying anything negative how would I change something like that

All this is very confusing right now idk what to do or say

[vapid quail]

That doesn't sound good with how quickly you'd think they'd invalidate your feelings. I would imagine that makes you feel bad, especially if they do it often, which it seems like they do. If they are unreliable, it's very hard to think of any alternate paths to take. They're supposed to be there to support you through everything. They should never be obstacles in your path to betterment. If you think your mental health could be better, they should be happy to help you in any way they could. I don't know what to do in this situation then. I don't have experience with something like this, sorry. Is there like a school counselor or something you can talk with?

[young sky]

I do online school So I don’t have a school counselor etc but I have a dog I talk to but you don’t have to apologize bro you tried your best to help me that’s all that matters you are a good person

And I watch anime that makes me laugh / comfortable and stuff

[vapid quail]

Thanks. I wish I could help more. It's a good sign that you still are enjoying stuff though. You mentioned having other hobbies. That's good.

[young sky]

Yeah boxing I’m really good at it 7-0

My record

Ik you didn’t ask tho lol

[vapid quail]

that's really good

[supple bear]

Yo, how can i stop being so sensitive and depressed?

[young sky]

do you get enough sun light

being sensitive in what way

[violet swan]

what makes you the more depressed

or what is that makes you break down the most

[deep timber]

How do I get less tilted because as of recently I’ve been getting so tilted its been making not want to play Games

[young sky]

It’s good to take a couple of days off but do stuff and try to better your mindset be more open minded I’m guessing you get titled cause you are dying and losing etc you just got to remember it’s Just a game it shouldn’t affect you irl and by your bio it says learning the fundamentals of aiming I am aswell your going to die over and over again that’s how gaming works but good luck on your grind (basically Remember it’s just a game)

[young sky]

Idk if this is advice type of talk or not I think it might be health but recently I have a strange sleeping pattern for the last week one day I sleep early then the next I sleep at 10:30 then repeats is this normal

And this normally happens every couple of months idk why

[deep timber]

thank you this is very useful

[violet swan]

anyone that can help me, i get really cold hands while playing tournaments most likely caused by nervousness and anxiety. right after the tournaments over im warm again

also a bit shaking cause of the nerves

[vapid quail]

That makes me feel like there may be some underlying issues with your sleep quality/quantity. What wakes you up? The sun? An alarm? Are you saying you go to sleep normally at 10:30 and during this weird bout you go to sleep earlier than that?

also how do you feel when you wake up normally? Is there anything that could be harming your quality of sleep? Like sleeping in a warm room rather than cold, sleeping in a light room rather than dark, sleeping with a bunch of extraneous noise rather than quiet/white noise, like using electronics before sleep? Do you snore?

how long are you sleeping? When I was in university, I barely had any sleep, so when the weekend rolled around, I would sleep extraordinarily longer than usual. So maybe there's something like that going on.\

Otherwise, if everything is fine. You're sleeping in ideal conditions, waking up feeling rested, sleeping long enough for your age (I think you mentioned being 16, so ~8-10 hours). It might just be some weird quirk with your development since you are going through puberty. A doctor's opinion on it would be ideal though.

[young sky]

No it’s later I have been told I snore when I sleep the room is sleep is Not warm or cold when I wake up I don’t feel good like I used to I’m 15 anything that is harming me could be my dog cause he is a very loud sleeper I normal use my phone and then turn it off 15 mins before I go to sleep I sleep for 8 hours last night I only slept for 5 last night I slept at 01:30 am and woke up at 6 ish

This has been happening for the last couple of days

Last time something like this happened was a couple of weeks ago

I’m going to change my room tonight away from my dog I was suggested

[vapid quail]

It does sound like there are some problems that you could improve.

Sounds like a good idea. If the dog is interrupting your sleep, that could be something to look into. If you noticed it, it probably is a problem.

[young sky]

I think it is the problem because before I got the dog I was sleeping perfectly fine with my cat rip to him tho

[vapid quail]

any disturbance in your sleep will result in a significantly lower quality even if it wakes you up like once or twice for only a little bit

[young sky]

Yeah I’ll try watch some videos on it I will see how tonight goes

[vapid quail]

Sounds like a good idea.

The snoring could be a problem as well. It could be an indication of sleep apnea

[young sky]

What’s that

[vapid quail]

sleep apnea is where you stop breathing for a split second repeatedly

[young sky]

Is it something serious ? Like could I die in my sleep by it ?

[vapid quail]

it's not guaranteed to be sleep apnea, just maybe an indication

the snoring that is

[young sky]

I’ll make sure to get this figured out better for me

[vapid quail]

I'm not sure if you can die from it, but it will definitely hurt your sleep quality

[young sky]

Yeah I’ll watch some videos about it thanks for the help @vapid quail

[vapid quail]

Np. I would try the other things first, like having a cooler room (or sleeping with less blankets) because the body needs to be cold to go to sleep. Also making sure to sleep for 8+ hours and to remove anything that can potentially disturb your sleep. If those are fixed and you still are waking up feeling tired, it could be sleep apnea, but you would need a doctor for that

[young sky]

Okay if it is still happening I will go get it checked out

[vapid quail]

Sounds good. A lack of sleep is a detriment to everything. Your brain, your body, etc. It's good that you are trying to fix it

[open garden]

Is it normal for someone who doesn't take walks to feel tense and burning muscles after 15min? This is in a hilly neighborhood on the road for reference.

[upbeat fractal]

I'm getting pain in my index finger, I tried rebinding shoot to something else but it make my aim much worse

[open garden]

Do you do any kind of hand/wrist stretches?

[vapid quail]

If what you are feeling is an occlusion effect from the blood going into your calf muscles, and the burning is lactic acid from being pushed to their limit, then yes.

[open garden]

When should I stop pushing them then? I did a bunch of stretching before walking and it started burning more or less early on in the walk.

[vapid quail]

It would be hard to say. For their capacity to improve, you do need to work them past comfortability. The calves are one of the most resilient muscles in the body because they are designed for endurance. I think you're fine doing what you're doing as long as they can take it. A little burning and increased blood in the muscle is normal.

I think it would be very hard to overwork them. I wouldn't stop doing the walking if they burn just a little. If it gets to the point where it's almost unbearable, you could take a couple minute break to clear the lactic acid. It's up to you. I think there should be no worries.

Eventually they'll adapt and you'll need greater distances to bring out the lactic acid.

[open garden]

Yeah, I stopped after the one lap I wanted to do because it was getting unbearable, especially towards the end since it's an incline.

[vapid quail]

Fair enough. You've worked them plenty at that point. That should be what they need to adapt.

[open garden]

I've done longer walks before, like an hour or longer, but I've never stretched before one. I thought it would help more than it did.

[vapid quail]

Well depending on how you stretched, you could lower the strength in the muscle. So it could've made it harder.

[open garden]

I did some Achilles stretching which is the only thing I saw when searching for Back to heel stretch.

[vapid quail]

Did that require you to bring your foot and toes pointed up?

[open garden]

It mainly applied pressure in the calves and thigh area for me tbh, which I'm not sure is the point of the stretch but that's what I was getting out of it.

It's more or less doing half a split squat.

[vapid quail]

that kind of replicates the move I was describing on the back foot I believe

but instead of the foot moving, it's your leg

There's some research out there saying stretching before exercise doesn't help performance or help prevent injury. It might even lower strength. I don't know enough to say what you should do one way or the other. Just something to keep in mind. If it helps you warm up, that's good though.

[tawny oyster]

is it better to play with lights on if so is there also a certain light bulb i can buy that can help in terms of health and also not be super bright

[cinder tundra]

Excuse me
Recently, I feel my fingers can’t hold the mouse.They are weak especial thumb and forefinger.
It is hard to micro-adjust by fingers.What problem?

[signal cobalt]

Hi guys, wondering about Alpha Brain and the claimed benefits from taking it. I was curious if anyone knows of a cheaper alternative?

[novel whale]

coffee

🙃

[signal cobalt]

Coffee only really covers a small portion though, I drink green tea every day so I should be covered there.

[copper heath]

I was writing stuff with a pencil today and I couldn’t write well because my hand felt shaky and weak. Are there any exercises I can do?

Also could this contribute to having shaky aim?

[severe plaza]

Does adderal actually help with aim and aim training?

[vapid quail]

It seems like it does. The individual response is variable, but people with and without ADD seem to benefit. I don't think you should try to get it for that reason though. If you actually have ADD and can't concentrate on the game, any drug could help so long as it treats the ADD. If you are looking for the stimulatory benefit, I would caution against it, especially if it's obtained illegally. So long as you're a fast caffeine metabolizer, I would try coffee and green tea since those are health promoting. Coffee for the caffeine and green tea for the L-theanine. As for how to know if you are a fast metabolizer, there are genetic tests I believe, but all you need is your own personal experience and if caffeine negatively affects you or not.

[violet swan]

Can I stay in fairly good shape if i only train 30 min strength a day?

[oblique citrus]

Depends what you do for strength

Like how intense are the workouts?

[vapid quail]

As long as you are getting stronger and progressing on the exercises. It's certainly better than 0 minutes.

[severe plaza]

very interesting, yeah i do have adhd and its prescribed to me. thank you! I am a fast metabolizer

[copper heath]

I was writing stuff with a pencil today and I couldn’t write well because my hand felt shaky and weak. Are there any exercises I can do?
Also could this contribute to having shaky aim?

[glass spoke]

If anyone has wrist pain I know a video that can help. I used to have wrist pain (I’m a wrist aimer) and it really sucked but I decided to use this stretch exercise or whatever it’s called and it really helped my wrist

The comments also provide a very good feedback

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdD7CgN5FGg

If you don’t trust me enough to click the link you can search it up.

And has positive feedback coming from the like ratio

[silent osprey]

if you mean good shape as in "looks like u lift weights", sure

as long as youre lifting daily and focusing on compounds in the right rep ranges

cant go too heavy or ur gonna take forever to rest which pwns ur 30 minute idea but as long as ur on the upper end of a hypertrophic rep range its pretty doable

if u mean good shape as in literal health benefits, just take up running daily for 30 mins

not that resistance training isnt good for health

just that running is probably better unless you already get ur 'dose' of cardio elsewhere

[violet swan]

i just dont wanna get fat lol. but yeah, might consider running then. i do get some cardio from PE in school and karate 3 times a week. but we ll see. thanks 🙂

[silent osprey]

if you dont wanna get fat, eat less calories

exercise in general doesnt raise ur TDEE a ton

it's great for your health, so certainly not a bad choice either way

[violet swan]

ight

[silent osprey]

honestly just do what you enjoy

if you find you like running, great

if you find you like lifting, great too

[violet swan]

ok, i ll try em both out. thanks

[violet swan]

how often should i take breaks while aim trainin? (i play like 1 - 4 hrs a day). Thanks

[young sky]

I haven’t played games in 2 days I honestly feel so much better

[tawny oyster]

stretch often, breaks are fine whenever you feel like you're starting to miss or degrade in performance

[pulsar niche]

aim training up to 4 hours a day? probably not even beneficial to train that much

or youll burn out faster and lose out on training you could have done more consistently

[violet swan]

wdym

[pulsar niche]

4 hours of conscious practise where you focus on your weaknesses is probably not possible

but up to you in the end

[violet swan]

wdym with "not possible" anything is possible?

[pulsar niche]

do what you want

[violet swan]

i play vaaks for fun

i dont play other games so its my main game

[pulsar niche]

ah alright

[violet swan]

therefore i can concentrate for long periods of time where as others might find it boring

[novel whale]

aim training isn't particularly mentally draining

and for you to be able to do 4 hours of just aim training it seems like you're just mindlessly doing it

because if you actually focus you'll be drained

it's also not physically taxing (for me at least?)

as long as you're not bored and lose motivation i think ur fine doing it everyday

getting bored + losing motivation will definitely lead to burnout

aim training for that long is really boring 😵‍💫

at least play something fun lol

[violet swan]

therefore i can concentrate for long periods of time where as others might find it boring

but ok

[novel whale]

time to be a speedrunner

[violet swan]

i did get master complete in just about 140 hrs lol

[carmine timber]

i haven't been able to play shooters in a while, or aim trainers. i'm afraid of the skill i've lost and being upset with myself because of it. i've also just felt so tired and haven't enjoyed any recent shooters, i just don't know what to do

[pulsar niche]

if you dont enjoy recent shooters i highly doubt a suddenly new one would get you back into them, focus on fixing whatever is making you feel this way if you think thats the cause

or you could be just over shooters

[knotty mulch]

I felt that way until I got back I to Apex. Recent shooters haven't been that great tbh. MW 2019 was the last one I personally really enjoyed, and even that wasn't too fun after 400-500 hours.

Edit: I got into kovaaks nonetheless because I personally just really enjoy being able to improve on a skill and see immediate effects (score and mouse feel)

[young sky]

So I moved room away from all the noise and it’s cold here aswell and it’s 02:00 and I still can’t sleep like my eyes are wide awake so the moving didn’t change it or help made it worse

[young sky]

6 and half hours later I only got like 3 hours of sleep

[spare junco]

@young sky gl for the day

[young sky]

I feel better tbh

Idk why

Like more active

But I moved me bed again to a different room so hopefully this one works out I’m gonna try get 8 -9 hours of sleep because of growing etc and idk what else

[plucky otter]

Darkness, silence and cool for sleeping. Plus spend 10+ minutes outside at sunrise and sunset, get your circadian rhythms on point. @young sky

Have you watched any of Matthew Walker or Andrew Huberman on sleep? Legit neuroscientists from top universities

[young sky]

I go outside in the mornings not night

[young sky]

There is one thing that keeps me up but I don’t know if it’s against the rules of the server to say or not

Okay it’s not I read it but I will blank out the name just incase( any mods I’m sorry if it is against rules just tell me please) I watch a lot of ||hentai|| like a lot any time I try to go to sleep it’s just on my mind even when I’m outside it’s on my mind and idk how to stop it like I watch like 1-2 hours a day

In the morning as soon as I wake up I start thinking about and at night aswell

[thorn haven]

🤨

[mellow wadi]

[rotund meteor]

@young sky You'll get to the point where u hate the animation and overtime you will learn to hate the art cause most hentai are dogshit

So is anime

I used to watch probably around 7000+ hours of anime clocked in

I stopped watching cause the animation was so shitt in all the anime it was actually pissing me off

[young sky]

So it isn’t something that I should be concerned about I’ve been thing this for about a year

[rotund meteor]

U have porn addiction, Quit for a week if u cannot jack off without any porn whatsoever

[young sky]

I tried before I just come back

To many urges

[rotund meteor]

See a therapist

Ill send u some videos

[hearty shore]

Is it possible to injure a finger on the same mouse hand that you don't use at all during aim training or am I just overthinking an injury that could be from somewhere else? Job is physical in nature but I've been working at it for almost half a year now

[short lantern]

my back right shoulder keeps pulsing

[young sky]

I’ve done this and right now it’s 00:19 and I can’t go to sleep I’m wide awake and for the past two days I have had 4 hours sleep

And I’m starting to feel bad if that makes sense

[oblique citrus]

I've got bad wrist pain in both wrists. Could this be from gaming or weightlifting? I workout 2 times a day if that helps any

[plucky otter]

From what you’ve said, you have more specific issues that prevent sleep. I have no advice about those but would suggest you find an expert.

[young sky]

Okay will do thanks for the help

[rocky orchid]

How do I get more energy

[proud pond]

wdym

like physically?

[silent osprey]

eat better (and/or more if youre in a deficit)

sleep better!!

exercise more

[thorn haven]

Caffeine and more caffeine 👍 👍

[mint spoke]

You may know this but sleep more

And for me when I workout i feel more energized but that may not be normal

[fallow pivot]

or stop caffeine and let your body make enough instead of replacing it. Its better on long term (as far as I know)

[thorn haven]

I doubt it. I consume at least 300mg caffeine daily and sometimes peak with over 800mg usage. I am fucking cracked.

[fallow pivot]

I get that you're cracked rn, but its inconsistent. If you don't drink caffeine then you're not cracked means you always have to pump it into your body

[thorn haven]

If I don't have my daily dose of caffeine I basically turn into a completely different person. Caffeine makes me go bonkers

[mint spoke]

Sweet tea

[thin stream]

Ive made multiple comments on this already but I am still lost to as what is happening so im coming to this channel. I have been playing valorant since it came out on and off. Every time i get a week back into the game i burn out hard for a few days then get back on track. I then will burn out for 3 ish days every week or so like clock work. This is the main reason I choose to play on and off cause it gets frustrating. I just got back into the game about a week or two ago and for the first week i was doing better than ive ever played, and was really confident for playing ranked. This was until i got my usual burn out, i was worse than usual but i assumed it would go away. A week later im still stuck playing like an iron 50% of the time. Its super confusing, I also have lost my skill in piano and other mechanical things. Its not even all my aim, my mechanical and gun handling is also gone. My body feels stiff aswell. Im 16 so I could possibly be growing but I doubt it, idk

im incredibly hard on myself as well so these things make me lose hope

[severe plaza]

val and aim in general is 100% mental. if you feel burnt out, just stop playing. also dont be hard on yourself its just a game lol

[thin stream]

its not just val tho, its everything

it's also kinda like, my body hates me lmao. everytime im ready to quit i get better.

[hollow wasp]

Hello. I'm a typist, so I pretty much live by my PC. Lately I've been getting some burning sensation around the area I've shown on a related pic. It's pretty mild, but I'm still worried, because I don't want to have RSI or something. I've taken two-day break from aimtraining and everything was fine, but now I have this feeling again. Should I take a longer break and see what happens? Or should I seek professional help immediately?

[vapid phoenix]

I wouldn't say I offer the best health tips, but you should wait around 2-3 days and if it continues then go see a doctor.

[steep garden]

Quick question do binaural beats actually work?

[novel whale]

it works for SOME type of people

not only is it expensive it's also a waste of time

• placebo

just listen to music bro

same thing tbh

validity of binaural beats is questionable, there isn't any conclusive evidence of it

[runic briar]

how do I get my vitamin D if the UV index here is always above 5

[silent osprey]

dietary/supplements

its kind of a no brainer

[runic briar]

ah thanks, but is there no other way to get it from the sun like right as it's rising or during sunset. Would it still be effective then?

[silent osprey]

im not entirely sure how much the radiation spectrum changes at dawn/dusk vs during the day

i wouldnt be surprised if it scales pretty proportionally across the spectrum but ive never researched it

you need UV to get vit D, so no matter what youre still trading some cellular damage

tho at a moderate level, the other benefits probably outweigh

just get reasonable sunlight and supplement with like 3k IU of vit D (or whatever an actual doctor/dietician advises you)

it's like one of the cheapest supplements, and also one of the most positively backed by research

[thorny dew]

I think holding breath for 1:30 is far above average, isnt it?

[runic briar]

Thank you! Will check it out

[silent osprey]

see a doctor, eat well if youre not already

[pulsar niche]

whats with the breath holding

[steep garden]

HAHAH holding breath with aiming would be poggers

[winter hearth]

does anyone else experience a slight twitch/jitter to their aim the following days after a heavy arm workout'

[severe plaza]

Aiming in general is 100% mental my man, just play when you feel good

[pulsar niche]

as nice as this sounds this is a load of bullshit

[thin stream]

my aim isnt bad tho, just for some reason lately i forget how to do everything... No spray control, no gun mechanics, no aim ect.

[pulsar niche]

hows your physical health? any underlying mental health issues you might suspect?

you could get blood work done to rule out certain issues easily

[severe plaza]

bruh how

[severe plaza]

Blood work for aiming

[pulsar niche]

yeah who would have thought that a physical issue in your body might affect your performance

waste of time to even reply to you

[thin stream]

Physically i jsut feel stiff and tired, which is why i suspect it has something to do with growing. Ill probably just ride it out and see what happens

[pulsar niche]

are you underweight?

[thin stream]

No, im pretty much average. I eat a lot to get a bit of bulk (not too much) but ive been doing that for months

[low thunder]

Healthy snack choices?

[low thunder]

Same

[pallid cloak]

Do you have a wrist strengthening routine?

[open garden]

Since you're a typist the more than likely scenario is that your posture for typing is hurting you. When typing you ideally want a negative incline, which at first thought might seem strange since keyboards typically have legs in the back to raise it up, but a negative incline allows your arms, shoulders, neck, and back to relax more while also promoting blood flow. If you cannot achieve this, a neutral wrist position also works well. Just make sure to not have your wrist tilted up as this will cause a wrist extension and reduce blood flow to the wrist and hands. If you use a wrist pad/rest, stop using it immediately, it only makes it worse by adding pressure to the tendons. Before and after typing for a while you should do wrist extensor and flexor stretches, but never to the point of pain. Try all this for a week or so and if it doesn't improve ask your doctor about potential CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) which is exactly what you have given the area of the sensation.

[red salmon]

like randomdeaddude said even pure aiming is 80% mental

[pulsar niche]

whats the rest 20%

[red salmon]

everything else

[pulsar niche]

meaning?

[red salmon]

skill can sometimes slow down or increase faster and everything depends how you approach to it, idk but thats what he answered me

[pulsar niche]

im asking what the rest 20% is that defines your aiming ability/potential

if it depends on how you approach it then why doesnt everyone approach it in the most efficient way?

[silent osprey]

kiku wtf else do you think it is

[pulsar niche]

[silent osprey]

youre not developing arm strength

its all in ur brain

[pulsar niche]

well no shit

my point is that your potential has limits, some more than others

its toxic positivity at best imo if you tell people that you can be insane if you just try hard enough

[silent osprey]

when tf did anyone say that lol

[pulsar niche]

its implied most of the time someone didnt necessarily say it right now

[pallid cloak]

It will put you at a disadvantage while gaming because you will only have 1 hand available

[hollow wasp]

No, I don't. I do stretch routines everyday, but I don't know anything about wrist strengthening routines. Can you link me something about them?

[pallid cloak]

Yeah honestly the stretches werent enough for me. I felt better after making them stronger

https://youtu.be/rY1-NA9V6ko

[young sky]

why does this part of my arm hurt after working out and playing games

[turbid fossil]

Massive carpal

Watch out or your tendons will tear and nerves will leak

Or you may fracture your wrist

[young sky]

how would i watch out @turbid fossil

?

[thorn haven]

Lightly tap it with a hammer to make sure your bones are dense enough

[young sky]

are you being serious or joking?

[grand schooner]

How do i cure a swollen ear

I wear my headphones too much

[violet swan]

Recently my wrist has been popping a lot is that a bad thing?

[violet swan]

wear them less

only way

or use in ear ones

[young sky]

going to not play for a couple of days until my wrist gets better

[turbid fossil]

idk man, I also have that

maybe it's evolution

the popping is bubbles

meaning our body puts air into our wrist to make it lighter or something

so we can aim better, it's like reducing weight of mouse

[violet swan]

you solved it

[open garden]

which arm?

[young sky]

Right

Both when gaming

When I’m gaming it’s my fingers that hurt (left for keyboard) but all the time that part of the right hand is sore even right now

[open garden]

what grip do you use for the mouse

[young sky]

Palm when I used finger it was worse

[open garden]

also if your left hand hurts and it's just the fingers, then you probably just need to stretch them before and maybe in between rounds/games depending on what you play

[young sky]

I do it just feels the same

Like right after

And they don’t feel free

If that makes sense

[open garden]

after you're done playing, or after a game?

[young sky]

Before sometimes in between rounds and after game

[open garden]

how are you stretching them?

[young sky]

I watch this video

It’s just basic hand stretches

It’s not that my Body’s weak like I workout and stuff and I’m pretty healthy

[open garden]

you didn't link the video

[young sky]

Oh alright my bad didn’t know you wanted it

Two seconds am I allowed to send it here ?

[open garden]

yeah

[young sky]

https://youtu.be/hboUyCTzXwo

[open garden]

oh i know these guys lol

[young sky]

Irl?

[open garden]

nah, but i've watched their videos before

[young sky]

Oh alright lol

[open garden]

so from watching most of it, those are ok i guess, but personally those aren't enough

[young sky]

I feel ready but idk

Like after I do them I feel warmed up

[open garden]

you could try these from this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuvhb6MjEhA&list=PL84ka3FdWx8lJ5cLUO6JdwK10MTY5qSUX&index=19&t=1s

[young sky]

I do stretches when I wake up aswell before I workout

[open garden]

it's a longer video, but I found these do more for me than what bob and brad were showing

[young sky]

Okay will save it and watch it when I’m stretching before I get on

Thanks

[open garden]

I'm sure you're aware, but just as a reminder, never stretch to the point of pain

np

[young sky]

Yeah Ik

I’m just gonna need to relax my right arm until it feels better then I’ll be able to play again

Hopefully soon

[ripe valve]

Stretching is great but unless you build up more endurance in your hands then issues will keep coming back. Try this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY&t=2s

Chilly makes a good point that you don't want to stretch to the point of pain! Good advice

I would also be curious what you do during workouts if you say your arm hurts when you do that as well

[hallow axle]

guys what is this pain? how its called?

[open garden]

could be Radial tunnel Syndrome

[violet swan]

Recently my wrist has been popping a lot is that bad thing ?

[open garden]

does it hurt when it pops?

[violet swan]

no

[open garden]

Then you're probably fine

unless you have pain with the pops then I would worry. The popping is just caused by nitrogen gas build up between the joints.

[pulsar niche]

are you skinny/weak forearms?

if its on the pinky side of your wrist might be ecu tendon related

[violet swan]

idk

it's my wrist

like if I move it while stretching it pops

[pulsar niche]

yeah thats nothing to worry about if theres no pain

happens to everyone

[little jackal]

i get 9-10 hours of sleep every night, i wake up feel tired within 3-4 hours of beinf awake. any suggestions?

[open garden]

What's your morning routine?

[green dove]

the wrist extensor stretch has been a gamechanger for me @ripe valve

thank u so much

[open garden]

Didn't realize that 1hp was in this discord but their videos are great.

[carmine zenith]

@little jackal had same issue, fixed it by
going to bed 12am to 1am latest and sleeping no longer then 7hrs a day, 6h30m on avg
daily activities like walking, cycling help A TON

[arctic moat]

https://discord.gg/XmTsMwsn?event=912833216300331029

Hit interested if you guys would like to see this :D

[violet swan]

I often got pain there when I start playing games
Can someone help?

[open garden]

Is that EST 5PM?

[arctic moat]

Shows up in your local timezone

[open garden]

Oh cool

[little jackal]

wake up 11am, eat breakfast, play games till about 2-4 then workout and go outside and shit, play until dinner eat take break, play till 11pm then go lay down till about 2 then sleep

altho after last night i think it could be not sleeping when my body wants me too, which sometimes i find that hard to tell but last night it was around 12:30am

but sometimes i feel like when my body wants to go to sleep its not around the same time every night, could be wrong but thatsd how i feel sometimes

[open garden]

So you start feeling tired before you work out right?

[little jackal]

yes i start getting tired abt 2

[open garden]

What you eat normally for breakfast

And drink

[open garden]

i need advice on how to handle calf cramps. I just got a charley horse and I'd rather have any other kind of pain.

[open garden]

Ah water, that'll do it huh

I have forgotten

[loud valve]

I feel like I have the best aim with the xm1 but it makes my forearm sore really quickly, any suggestions to prevent that?

[glass spoke]

What does this stretch do?

And can you send me it?

[hollow tendon]

for wrist pain, I've found wrist curls be extremely effective

got rid of my pain rly quick

[young sky]

This actually helped me a lot thank you appreciate it alot

[little jackal]

rasin toast and a banana and water

[open garden]

Honestly your routine is better than most. The only issues I can think of as to why you get tired quickly is the quality of your sleep and maybe even that you excersice after and not before playing. Most people exercise before they play in my experience, so you could try switching that up and see.

[little jackal]

u rekon its like lack of meat and shit good nutrients?

[open garden]

You don't really need meat first thing in the morning tbh. What you need is protein. Try making an egg or two in the morning.

[dark yew]

has anyone else here experienced muscle imbalances in the shoulder, arms and pecs? i played 80cm/360 for over 2 years and it was a literal workout whenever i played kovaaks. i was a dumb little cs player who bought into the idea of muscle memory, so i never changed my sensitivity out of fear of playing bad. i also played fortnite on that sens and i would make handcam vids to show how intensely i was moving my arm to show to my friends and have a little laugh. never thought of the health implications though and now its biting my ass.

[little jackal]

im not just talking in the morning

[tame helm]

which ones my man, I need those too

[green dove]

its the one in the video where u put your arm straight out, make a fist, and with your other hand push down on the fist.

You'll really feel this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY&start=2

[open garden]

Ah, so you stay tired through out the day?

[ripe valve]

You are very welcome! I'm glad it helped

[velvet yoke]

Any mental health servers

That anyone knows of

Having tough time

[tame helm]

thank you

[little jackal]

yeah, sorry i ment it as in i wake up, then3-4 hours later im tired

for the rest of the day

[open garden]

and exercising or eating lunch have no impact at all

[open garden]

The possible issues that come to mind are; Not enough water throughout the day, Sleeping TOO much, not enough iron, vitamin D, or vitamin B12 (but don't start taking a bunch of vitamins and supplements, try to get them in food.), and perhaps fatigue from exercising too much. Ideally you want carbohydrates before working out otherwise your body has to use reserves of protein, fat, and carbs for the energy it needs which will inevitably leave you feeling more tired as you are using your energy reserves. If you never take a rest day, you really should as your body needs time to recover.

[fallen mortar]

Bro like my wrist is getting stronger and Im feeling less tickling :D

Carpal tunnel was beating my ass last month

It got to a point where I couldnt even put any strength on it for like 2 days

Started doing the wrist exercises and I feel so much better ong

[open garden]

I assume you meant tingling and not tickling ^

[fallen mortar]

Yea

I felt like my index bone was coming out my arm such a weird sensation

[open garden]

are you doing the exercises from the video or different ones?

[fallen mortar]

Same exercises

[open garden]

nice, I didn't have the pain and tingling myself but doing those and similar ones for me made my aim a lot less shaky and caused me to tense less.

[fallen mortar]

But I added one where you put your hands together around the belly and put some pressure so much relief with that one

[fallen mortar]

Nice thats where I wanna get

[open garden]

If you already had the pain and tingling it definitely would take some more time to build up, but it looks like you're making good progress for sure

[fallen mortar]

Yea the problem was my arm posture

[open garden]

Biggest thing to keep in mind is to not slack off or neglect health after you resolve the problem. Health is a constant thing we must maintain, and not just when we have issues.

[fallen mortar]

I started playing with my wrist unconsciously thats what I think it maight of caused it

[open garden]

did you use a high sensitivity ?

[fallen mortar]

Like my arm wasn't on the desk it was on the air

30cm

But in some scenarios 25cm

[open garden]

If your arm was always in the air that would definitely make it hurt

just making sure you weren't like me a while back using 1600 dpi with default game sens or higher

so basically ~6cm/360

100% do not recommend

[fallen mortar]

Sheesh

[open garden]

I played like that since I was a kid I think

[little jackal]

i can tell u i dont workout too much or exercise too much, i do agree its a lack of some sort of vitamins/supplements. ive never really been a healthy eater which ive been improving on lately. ive started taking a multivitamin so im sure that will help, im low on either b6 or b12 i know that because one of them makes me nauseous so i havent been taking them but im trying to find something to take or eat that wont make me sick. do u rekon it could be lack of calories aswell? cause i think i need about 2k calories to maintain my weight ut i eat less than that

[pulsar niche]

dont take vitamins on an empty stomach

[little jackal]

i dont

[pulsar niche]

i dont think nausea is an indication that you are deficient on something

when you take it i mean

[little jackal]

its not but b6 or b12 makes me naseous

[pulsar niche]

easiest way to tell is get bloodwork done

[little jackal]

so i have been getting any

havent

[open garden]

lack of calories could be an issue as well

[little jackal]

yeah i think im just gonna improve my eating see how that goes

[tardy bronze]

How much coca-cola consumption daily/weekly is too much?

[open garden]

can, bottle or 2 liter?

[tardy bronze]

Bottle, 500ml

[open garden]

technichally 1 of those a day is too much if you have it daily

[tardy bronze]

i see, thanks

[open garden]

try cutting it down to every other day if you can first

[tardy bronze]

im already somehow like that, 3/4 a week. sometimes none. i was afraid that was too much

[open garden]

That's not terrible, you just have to remember to drink more water since it's a diuretic.

[tardy bronze]

understood, ty

[glossy chasm]

I learned that i perform better in aiming when i actually focus on my target instead of "looking" at it
how can i increase my focus ofver a long perod of time to aim or play focussed even after 1h aimtraining or a counterstrike overtime game wil like 2h game time?
please tag so i dont miss answers

[calm forum]

Eye strain? Consider getting glasses. I came here to post / ask if anyone who doesn’t REALLY need glasses feels better or has reduced eye strain / improved ability to track (fast) targets since they got glasses

[glossy chasm]

i think my eyes are fine, just a lack of concentration and how could i improve there?

[calm forum]

I dunno set a timer every 30sec to remind you to focus? Or just realize that you aim better focusing on the target instead of your crosshair works and just work on that until you notice yourself doing it without thinking. Didn’t take me too long to transition in that regard

[plucky otter]

Yep; glasses are optional but I perform better with them on

[calm forum]

Aight this puts me over the edge sitting on the prescription for 2y. Fast strafes finally getting to me

[open garden]

Take a look at "the flow state". There's a lot on the topic but I'm sure a little research could help you with recognizing it and how to stay in it.

[plucky otter]

You might be interested in some of Huberman’s podcasts. He’s not a fan of flow state for learning - since learning is driven by making and recognizing errors. Flow state is great for performance ofc.

[sour zealot]

@calm forum not sure but gonna get some glasses soon cause lately i been getting more and more eyestrain and wakeup with blurry vision if I gamed/aimtrained excessively the previous day XD will let u know if they help.

But blinking and eyedrops def help

[calm forum]

Everyone posting their celestial scores upon putting glasses on the first time

[pulsar niche]

would be helpful to know what your posture is like while gaming and is your chair/desk setup ideal

if its only happening in valorant maybe you are doing something posturally thats causing it

[open garden]

In the wrist exercise video, when it says 3x20-30" does that mean 3 sets of 20 with 30 second rests? or is it just saying 20-30 reps?

[open garden]

How long should each individual stretch be? (How long do I hold the stretch before transitioning)

[calm forum]

That’s “three sets of 20-30 reps” if gym syntax transfers

[eternal abyss]

not reps

seconds

so 3x 20-30 seconds

[open garden]

that makes more sense, ty

[ripe valve]

Last Samurai is right, it's three sets of 20-30 seconds

[open garden]

awesome, ty!

[calm forum]

I’m sorry

[hearty imp]

should the armrest where i put my arm be the same height than my table?

[turbid fossil]

Depends on your aiming style!
Most people would probably prefer it to be same height as table, but:
-Lower height is very good for high sensitivity aiming with wrist bent around the table’s edge.
-Higher height is very good for topdown aiming, a more fingertippy approach

[pulsar niche]

^ i dont agree with this advice

theres good and bad postures to play with, some edge cases but the same still applies to most people

why the fuck would you play with your wrist bent around the tables edge

[plush beacon]

I personally take the arm rests off my chair completely for gaming and screw them back on for work and movie nights

[open garden]

If you value your health and wrists, please please please do not play with your wrist bent around the table as it's quite literally the worst thing you can do.

[hearty imp]

I usually have the arm rest equal or a little lower than my table and the rest of my arm in the table

But for some aim zones i have a lot of friction in arm rest

[open garden]

I took my arm rest off on the side where my mouse is

[hearty imp]

What do you do with your elbow

[open garden]

If you still use yours I'd recommend it be slightly above the table if anything otherwise your wrist will get fatigued quickly bent upwards.

[hearty imp]

I'll try that in the next playlist

[open garden]

My desk doesn't have like any depth which is annoying, so my elbow is typically off the table

[hearty imp]

I usually have my wrist in the table

[open garden]

If and when I can afford a table with more depth I want to be able to rest my entire forearm on the table

[hearty imp]

Is it okay to send a picture?

[open garden]

of course

[hearty imp]

this is how i usually play

[open garden]

This is currently what I'm doing. As I said earlier though I'd like to have more arm on the table.

[hearty imp]

sometimes i palm a little more

oh i see you have more depth

now it makes more sense in my head

[open garden]

Yeah, and I honestly want more because it forces my monitor to be offset too and kind of throws me off my ideal setup

[hearty imp]

Am i destroying my wrist or doing something wrong?

I did read something about 90º-100º angle for elbow but i have no idea

[open garden]

As long as you don't let your lower arm "rest" on the tables edge it's fine.

[hearty imp]

what do you mean with lower arm, the wrist part?

[open garden]

Don't do this

[hearty imp]

am i not doing that in the picture? ignoring the arm rest of the chair

i guess without the arm rest is the issue

looks insanely painful

[open garden]

From the picture angle i saw it looks fine

but that's why i recommended at least level or higher arm rest

[hearty imp]

i just made it a little higher and it feels even better

I usually had it equal or below haha

thank you chilly

[open garden]

no problem :)

[open garden]

I know the wrist/hand exercise video said the exercises were for after gaming, but would you recommend doing these before playing as well or a different set to get limber?

[ripe valve]

All the weighted or resistance ones give yourself a two hour buffer with gaming. They also fatigue your muscles so stacking it with gaming can be a lot. The stretches are good for after anything strenuous for your hands. If you want a specific warm up before you play try something like this

https://youtu.be/hsyUH4OIk2w

[open garden]

I see, thank you so much!

[somber wagon]

anyone know if switching to a new mouse can cause wrist/forearm pain? went from a vipermini to a gpw and it hurty :/

[pulsar niche]

definitely possible, gpw is decently bigger

i had more wrist pain/soreness using a wider mouse

[green dove]

any good info on increasing bloodflow to your brain?

[open garden]

Water and exercise are the biggest ones.

[green dove]

I do drink a lot of water and exercise. I feel like my head is cold, i dont know if that makes sense

[open garden]

your head or your brain?

granted your brain has no nerves to feel but still.

[green dove]

my head. I was thinking that if my head is getting good bloodflow, that would mean that my brain is as well

but thats just me theorizing

would make sense tho

[open garden]

I'm obviously not a doctor so take what I say with a grain of salt.

However, do you feel it in your entire head or more on top?

[tidal hollow]

why do you use a sweater while playing dont you get warm?

[open garden]

It's an arm sleeve, not a sweater.

[tidal hollow]

oh

[open garden]

It's for reducing friction of my arm on the mouse pad.

[tidal hollow]

where can i buy one?

not amazon

🙂

[open garden]

Probably anywhere tbh. I got mine from Academy sports for example. The branding isn't a big deal, more just the texture.

[tidal hollow]

ok thank you

[open garden]

np

[open garden]

just make sure it doesn't have any grip on the sleeve

[tidal hollow]

ok, also if i dont feel any sweat/friction on my forearm is it still worth the price?

[open garden]

They are relatively inexpensive, usually no more than 20$usd . While you might not feel the friction, there will always be friction as that happens anytime 2 objects move across each other. The sleeve will just reduce it and make it more consistent.

Obviously you don't have to get one or listen to me, but in my quest for knowledge it seems effective and used by most, if not all, esports players

[tidal hollow]

okay thank you once again

[molten grove]

I have hard time focusing on the game (enemy, how to peak etc.)

[novel whale]

the 4 main thing of every How to videos and posts in existence:
sleep, diet, exercise, meditation

u sure ur already doing good on any of that

[violet swan]

This is legit OP, close your eyes for 15 mins and just focus on your breathing, your eyes feel as fresh as they do in the morning

[loud valve]

My wrist has been hurting really badly lately while I play, I think from overuse and tensing too much

What should I do!

?*

[stone wraith]

Should you have your monitor at an angle so you don't have to bend your head to look straight at it?

[eternal abyss]

Do exercises and stretches for your wrist and forearm. You find videos on that on the 1HP YT. Reduce the playtime at the beginning if needed and work on not tensing up.

[hearty imp]

is it normal that my forearm gets tired around 3/4 of the fundamental training?

[eternal abyss]

im not sure, how long it takes to get there, but take small breaks if needed or exercise for more endurance.

[dawn peak]

Hi!

I just joined

[hearty imp]

welcome

[violet swan]

Try to relax your arm and especially your wrist

You are prolly tensing

It rly shouldnt hurt after 3/4th, maybe try some streches

[hearty imp]

I try to relax but then i feel like im really slow, for now it doesnt hurts, it just feels tired/tense

[violet swan]

Yeah you should get into the habit to not tense as fast as possible

Ull ruin your wrist and scores

[velvet spindle]

i've recently gotten this massive aching pain in my right shoulder that goes all the way down my arm as well, its been 3 days since it started and has been gradually getting worse. starting to make it hard for me to stay on fps games for even like an hour, is there anything i can do to help this pain and what may have caused it?

[slow swan]

get checked on by a professional.

[plucky haven]

Some good strategies - walk 2 minutes out of every 30 minute sitting session. This has been shown to completely stave off normal reductions in blood flow as you sit for extended periods of time.

On the nutrition side of things, nitrate containing foods (beets, arugula) and blueberries have all been shown to improve brain blood flow. As already said though, dehydration can also limit blood flow, so drinking adequate fluids throughout the day is a prerequisite.

[tropic talon]

Question is it bad that my wrist hovers ? I hate having my wrist on my pad it just feels weird

[eternal abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75rKw0lR0oA&ab_channel=1HP this is a pretty aggravated example, but it might apply to you anyway

[green dove]

thank you so much. this is what i needed to know.

[green dove]

@plucky haven I drink a lot of coffee each day. Is it true that coffee dehydrates?

[plucky haven]

It doesn't in the true sense of the word. After you drink a cup of coffee your body has gained some fluid. However, it is less efficient at hydrating you than a cup of water, which is where it got it's bad rep from.

[green dove]

I see. I drink so much coffee that I notice my pee is clear. Hopefully that means Im on the right track

unless thats not a good gauge

[thorn haven]

You don't want clear urine

[plucky haven]

That does sound like a bit much, which might be worth dialing back for other reasons. But you don't want crystal clear urine - you want light yellow.

[thorn haven]

It should ideally be slightly yellow, but how much coffee are you drinking to have clear piss?

[plucky haven]

I'd guess you are not dehydrated, so the other strategies would take higher priority.

[green dove]

what does clear urine signal, if thats not ideal?

[thorn haven]

Foods containing nitrates also definitely help blood flow, but if you need even more than that there are supplements that work to increase nitric oxide levels and NO precursors

[green dove]

like what supps?

My family genetics seem to have low blood flow. I've noticed this pattern in my dad's side

*by low blood flow i meant inefficient

I've taken niacin w/flush, and that works amazingly, but I find that it makes my heart pound and stomach churn lol

[thorn haven]

I can't pull the link up rn because I'm on dogshit school wifi but just look up gorilla mode nitric, it's meant as a preworkout but it doesn't have any stimulants (caffeine, etc.) and it works to improve general blood flow in your body. It's quite potent so a half dose of one scoop should be more than enough to have you cruising and chilling

[green dove]

oh nice. I take gorilla mode smooth

I'll check that out

https://www.cor-restor.com/pages/niacin

For fifty years, Niacin has been extensively used to support healthy metabolism and circulation. Through many clinical trials, Niacin has proven to be effective at elevating HDL (good cholesterol) and lowering LDL (bad cholesterol). It also helps widen your blood vessels which helps your arteries relax by increasing Nitric Oxide synthase.

Maybe increasing nitric oxide synthase would be more beneficial in the long run?

[thorn haven]

I dont know jack shit about long term nitric oxide boosting, and as a result I'm not gonna say anything other than look at some peer reviewed scientific studies to find stuff that'll help you out

[green dove]

thats fine. Im not pretending to know either.

Im just thinking if you help your body produce it systematically. Theoretically, you wouldn't need to boost NO as often

[inland bone]

why does this funny lil guy stab me when I play static 😔

[pulsar niche]

is that on the front or back?

does it feel like nerve shocks?

[pallid mural]

Yo, anyone had pain in right side upper trap, neck and especially front shoulder, bicep and both elbow sides?

Mouse hand

I think its a nerve/scapula issue maybe?

[violet swan]

1. Is sleeping 7hrs 30 min a day okay as a 15 yo? I wanna sleep 8 but i am a very busy guy so usually 7-7.5 hrs..

2. anyone have advice to cmc joint pain? Or maybe pain isn't the right word, discomfort. It doesn't directly hurt but feels a bit weird while aim training for longer than about 2 hrs or so. Are stretches useful or should I do smth else?

Thanks

[peak folio]

how do i combat sweaty hands lol

[remote vine]

1. make your room colder
2. see a dermatologist and have a procedure done to remove the sweat glands from your palms

[lone heart]

What do you call it when you have negative thoughts even when you do something good like if I beat someone in a game my head says they are just a bot or they are new or something like that

[thorn haven]

It's better than what 90% of other kids are doing, including me

[violet swan]

Tru enough

[peak folio]

cuz they are

jk all love no hate

[calm forum]

Kill me

[open garden]

Is that an app?

[calm forum]

iPhone just tracks my shit in the native Health app

[open garden]

I've never used the health app tbh

Might take a look at it

[calm forum]

Probably already has a bunch of into. I didn’t exactly set this up on my own

[violet swan]

anyone here know what to do to help with cmc joint (thumb) "pain" (more like discomfort kinda. But still hurts a bit)

[open garden]

@arctic moat how does the event work? Is it a voice channel thing or discord live stream? I've never done one of these before so I'm just wondering what to expect before it starts later.

[eternal abyss]

its a twitch/yt stream, but theres a voice channel for it for questions

[open ivy]

https://youtu.be/x6qWBlXM7Cg Hey all! we are live chatting about nutrition and how you can optimize for training and competition!!

Come hang

[open garden]

should i be on both on youtube and vc?

nvm they just answered lmao

[open garden]

In regards to caffeine, how often could you have it without receiving diminishing returns and reliance on it?

[minor oasis]

this is a tad personal, but for my seniors here what do you plan on doing after highschool?

[silent osprey]

cycle on and off of it

[open garden]

Yeah, but like how long are the cycles

that's essentially what I meant to ask

[silent osprey]

dno i just feel it out myself

there is probably good data somewhere

[novel whale]

why not take caffeine at its recommended dosage so you can feel at ease ;D

tbh just check examine.com you can find out about all of that stuff there, take caffeine in its recommended dosage and devlopment of tolerance will be limited

[silent osprey]

i mean u always build some level of tolerance

[novel whale]

ye that level just depends on how much you take habitually

my cycle is 4x a week since i workout that much with days off on wednesday and weekends

normal i guess

[silent osprey]

u probably need to spend like vaguely a week off to actually cycle off of caff

cuz it just desensitises specific adenosine receptors so u dont get the crazy stimmy feeling nearly as much

i mean its not like u dont get any benefits from consistent caffeine intake

but if you can time ur cycles to get good results its really cool

[red salmon]

How much water is ideal to drink daily, i have a problem which affects me but i get like 2 glasses of water daily max, not even 0.3-0.4L

[pulsar niche]

well im assuming u get fluids from something else since u cant survive with that little water lol

[open garden]

From the video yesterday a good rule of thumb is 1/2 body weight in Oz minimum

[red salmon]

oz?

[open garden]

Ounces

[young sky]

Idk if the second one is accurate I think it is

[calm forum]

Ehh doesn’t look like a bunch of data was captured so I guess you don’t exactly sleep with the phone beside your face

[young sky]

yeah i put it in another room

[calm forum]

That’ll do it

[open garden]

Mine isn't accurate because it thinks I actually wake up and stay up after my alarm

[young sky]

lol

i do normally sleep for 7 to 8 hours a day normally a little bit more

[calm forum]

Very vamp of you indeed

Keep it up if you can dude I’m sure it’s more healthy than my shit. You can definitely see the bags under my eyes

I took sleep aid at like 9:30pm last night, went to sleep at 11:30 and slept until 8 through my alarm at 7

If I don’t take sleep aid, I fall asleep at like 2 and hit snooze or keep sleeping until 8. I can’t win lol

[young sky]

I like to workout then take a shower then just pass out

[young sky]

🧛‍♂️

[limpid token]

how close do you guys have your monitor to your face?

I feel like my eyesight has become very sensitive to light these last few months and its really annoying me

like I can see clearly, but when I look at the blue sky (opposite diirection of the sun) I start to squint as if im looking at a very bright light

this was not normal for me until a few months ago

my left eye starts burning everytime in trying to aim train (start burrning almost 5 minutes in) and I have to close/squint my left eye which I feel is lessening my progress because I focus more on my eye than the actual target

[peak folio]

turn on blue light filter

turn brightness down

make ambient lighting brighter

@limpid token

[limpid token]

how do I turn on bluelight and change ambient lighting? @peak folio

[peak folio]

maybe ur monitor supports it, and idk just make ur room brighter

[limpid token]

yea I have all my room lights on and thte lowest brightness on my monitor

[peak folio]

how far away r u from monitor

[limpid token]

also turned on "EyeSaver" mode which helped a bit

[limpid token]

about an arms distance and a few centimeters

[peak folio]

hm

how long r u inside for lol

[limpid token]

like my room or my house ?

[peak folio]

room

[mellow wadi]

Do eye stretches and take frequent breaks.

[limpid token]

eye stretches?

[mellow wadi]

Yes, it wont fix vision problems but it should lessen the strain on your eyes which can help reduce twitching or the burning feeling. Its always a good idea to not play through pain though.

[young sky]

Why do my fingers feel so uncomfortable on my keyboard Like they feel like I have to crack them every 10 mins even when I’m typing now I feel like cracking them

[violet swan]

Theoreticaly, can somebody play 5 hours of kvks a day without wrist injurys ? Are streches for a few minutes enough?

[eternal abyss]

get some breaks inbetween for extra stretching and do some exercises to build endurance

not sure if grinding kovaaks that long is really worth it tho, the longer you go the less effective you gonna be

[open garden]

If you're doing 5 hours a day you're probably not training properly and doing yourself a disservice.

[violet swan]

ive done like 3 hours a day with breaks w/ wrist stretches and havent had any discomfort so id assume if you take breaks you could

[mild schooner]

doing some hand rotations today and my wrist suddenly popped loudly and hurted a bit, should i be concerned?

[violet swan]

Im glad that you read my question and still decided to write a response ignoring what i asked….

I dont play 5 hours, but i wanna know what the technical limit what u still can consider „healthy or non injury prone“

[hasty flare]

my aiming arm hurts a truck ton when im warming up
any fixing?

[green dove]

Anyone ever wake up with a hangover and feel like you got some new wisdom

Not tryna clown for no reason

But every time I’ve had a hangover I wake up with some new motivation for my work and have random creative ideas

[open garden]

You're asking a very specific person to person question, so I simply said don't do 5 hours, even if you can physically.

[violet swan]

well i asked if its possible without wrist injurys if u strech etc and not if i should or not... pls dont answer if u dont know (dont wanna come off as rude, maybe i worded myself wrong, but i just wanna know if its okey for a normaly healthy person to put that ammount of strain on his wrist)

[open garden]

From a physical standpoint its very possible, yes. My answer was to not do it though even if you can physically because anything more than 2 hours is complete over kill and inefficient.

[violet swan]

thank you, yeah im not gonna train 5 hours, i was just curious what the limits could be. Thank you very much c: (5 hours kinda impossible cuz Irl lmao)

[open garden]

True

[violet swan]

sorry if i came off as rude, got a bit too my head sorry brotha

[violet swan]

where does this come from btw? with the deminishing returns after 2 hours, is there a paper writen on it?

ive heard it a bunch now

[open garden]

I'm not sure exactly where it comes from, but I know after 2 hours for anyone is almost impossible to truly focus and not auto pilot and your form will weaken. At that point you're just enforcing bad habits on yourself by going through the motions.

[young robin]

I'm noticing my upper arm (past elbow) feels like it gets "slow" rapidly into an aim training session and I feel I guess "soreness" in like the outer side of my arm between my bicep & tricep. Does anyone know what this might be?

[eternal abyss]

how does your sitting/arm position look like while doing it

[young robin]

This is basically my neutral position

I have very minimal forearm contact with my desk/pad and sometimes none at all, with only back of palm planted on pad.

[eternal abyss]

at what height does it occur

at your arm

[young robin]

Basically right along that line I feel gets fatigued super fast

Like within 5 mins of aim training

[eternal abyss]

if its actually soreness, it might be the brachialis muscle

which helps with the flexion of your forearm

im no expert, but since your forearms are floating, you might put extra load on them

[young robin]

Looking at pic of arm muscles that definitely sounds right

[eternal abyss]

soreness relates to a lot of load on the muscle

if you work out hard, your muscles get sore

[young robin]

Ok and I often have my arm outstretched more than I would like as a symptom of my current setup. So I'm guessing that doing like low sens speed training constantly in that more outstretched hovering forearm position might be what's causing this then

Putting too much load on that muscle. Thanks this helped

[eternal abyss]

sitting height looks good to me, you can either get another chair with armrests to put your forearms on

or train the muscles

[young robin]

Yup. Not a big fan of armrests tbh so gonna try training somehow

[eternal abyss]

working out has a lot of health benefits

you dont need to go into body building, but training a few times a week is definetely a good thing to do

[green dove]

I train my brachialis when i go to the gym

its often underdeveloped as most bodybuilders focus on the visible part of the bicep/tris when training

but it can play a key role in helping you gain more mass and strength in your entire arm

[young robin]

Do you do certain lifts? I actually have a good weight setup at home so it would be very accessible to me but I don't use it.

[green dove]

yeah I mainly do the reverse curls

Its a nice way to end an arm workout.

you can do with dumbells as well

[young robin]

Ahh sick

We have barbell so can do exactly as in pic

[green dove]

I've actually been getting more bicep gains and strength ever since applying them

[young robin]

Although it doesn't have those curves in the bar

[green dove]

you dont need the ez bar

but youll have to use less weight

[young robin]

Ok cool

[green dove]

it can fuck up your wrists

so just keep that in mind

if you have ez bar, its easier on your wrists

[young robin]

I see, definitely won't be starting out with substantial amount of weight but will be careful

[naive surge]

Is it normal to "feel" the forearm and wrist? Since I started doing kovaaks and learned how to aim I started feeling my wrist and forearm more often.

It isn't painful nor harsh, but it is a feeling of "tireness" and "used". How normal is it? should I be worried?

[eternal abyss]

when you do aimtraining, its a physical task to a certain extend. if you do a physical task for a while, you gonna get tired muscles. so its normal.

same things as in working out apply here. doing according exercises will help with endurance, stretches to counteract the shortening of muscles

[strange dew]

anyone know how to improve physical endurance?

i get extremely tired after 2-3 hours of playing

[open garden]

I'm assuming you mean 2-3 hours of gaming right?

[strange dew]

yeah

my arm/shoulders/back get super tired

i have to take breaks

[open garden]

Do you stretch, exercise, or workout?

[strange dew]

i stretch every hour or so and regularly go on walks around my neighborhood

30-60 min typically

i don’t go to the gym

[open garden]

My ranked queue just popped, I'll be back and continue helping after

oopsy

Does your neck hurt also, or not at all?

[strange dew]

neck is fine usually

i think i have bad posture but idk how to improve it

@ me whenever you’re back

[hard star]

This is a complicated topic.

When we aim train for extended periods of time, our back, shoulders and forearms see a lot of use. Your arms are stabilizing your mouse, and your back is supporting your upper body. Prolonged usage of any muscle will result in soreness and fatigue. "Perfect" posture does not prevent back pain, the same way perfect aim technique does not prevent arm/shoulder fatigue.

I would encourage you to, instead of forcing your body into any one position while sitting, try alternating your sitting position every 15-20 minutes.

As far as endurance training goes, you could start lifting weights and performing cardio, preferably with a higher intensity than walking, but... Imo, even trained athletes would experience fatigue after 2-3 hours of performing the same movements with little to no downtime.

It is worth adding that while static stretching helps relieve soreness after training, it increases risk of injury and fatigue if performed before or during training.

@strange dew

That might not be the answer you're looking for, but... I hope it helps. lol

[strange dew]

That does help a little bit, but I still don’t understand how it’s possible for people to play for like 8-12 hours consistently and play well the whole time

the first person I can think of is tarik, he streams valorant every day for like 12 hours and is perma radiant/top 10

i play overwatch and it’s probably more physically demanding but still

[hard star]

You're experiencing substantial pain during standard gameplay instead of aim training?

[strange dew]

it’s not pain, more fatigue

[hard star]

Hm. There's no harm in incorporating an exercise routine into your week to see if it makes a difference.

but that's a whole thing in and of itself

lol

[open garden]

I wouldn't compare yourself to a CSGO professional, they've probably had tons of hours building everything and most esports teams have dedicated trainers to help them even more.

[hard star]

yeah that's a fair point as well

sum ppl just built diff

[strange dew]

i don’t think him being pro matters at all

i have played video games consistently every day for the past like

8 years

and i can only last for 3 hours before i get tired

[open garden]

ah fatigue

You probably need too drink more water while playing games then

also depends on what you eat before as well

[strange dew]

I drink a ton of water

[open garden]

your body needs fuel to power itself and the better fuel you give it, the more it can utilize it's potential

[strange dew]

i eat pretty well as well

[open garden]

define pretty well

[strange dew]

i eat healthy

[open garden]

example

[strange dew]

chicken rice broccoli everyday

not a lot of junk food

i think i eat later in the day tho

so i don’t have the energy before playing maybe?

[open garden]

That meal could be better tbh

not terrible but if that's all you eat it's not really enough

[hard star]

It could, but... If you don't eat before a session, you are going to have lower physical endurance and energy levels than you would having eaten.

This is true for exercising as well.

[strange dew]

it’s jot literally all i eat lol just something i eat often

[hard star]

so you could try eating breakfast or whatever first and seeing if that makes a difference

your sleep schedule could also be a factor

depending on how consistently you're sleeping

[open garden]

you need more than just broccoli, ideally eating fruits. Also if it's white rice it's not nearly as beneficial as brown rice.

Yeah, im assuming it's not something you'd eat EVERYDAY, that'd get old pretty quick. It's just my take on the individual meal.

I'm guessing you drink water with your meals?

Also when I mentioned Tarik being a pro, it was more about their availability to resources like dietitians, physical trainers, etc, that can help them play for longer.

[slender cedar]

any smokers here? maybe it's just placebo but I feel x2 times focused after cig and tend to beat my pb's

[violet swan]

no it won't fuck up your wrists lol wtf

unless you're a grandma

[sudden granite]

@slender cedar smoking cigs give a little bit of an anti-depressant which helps you focus temporarily

The side effects are not worth but I'm not going to beat a dead horse here

[violet swan]

hi i am pretty new to aimtrainers and i want to know why many peaple start with higher sens or lower sens. because many peaple say that they start aimtraining/warming up with higher or lower sens

and i really want to get better aim in krunker bur people say that i need to start warming up/aimtraining with higher sens or lower or i will fuck my hand up

[green dove]

If you do it stupid it I will haha

What do you mean 🤣🤣🤣

[violet swan]

pronated grip no matter what bar is the same

u don't need a ez bar

[green dove]

Oh I see. I thought you were talking about the curls themselves

I guess for me the ez bar feels better on my wrists

But I’ve done both

Could be placebo honestly

[tall solar]

Any idea why my right ring finger/pinky finger hurt/feel sore as fuck after playing kovaaks for a bit?

[eternal abyss]

playing with bad posture/wrist position maybe. do you do any stretches/exercises for wrist and forearm?

it can even be an issue in the shoulder area

[tall solar]

I mean it might be because my hand is slightly tilted to the side, like i have my hand resting on the bone on the right side of my wrist

[eternal abyss]

maybe do a picture of it in default position

[tall solar]

Can’t really see shit though lmao

[open garden]

you're probably gripping it to tight with those fingers

[tall solar]

Ah, i noticed that I actually put my ring/pinky into the pad and slightly under the mouse for stopping power. Could that be what causes it? I only do it in static scenarios lol

[eternal abyss]

in neutral position the middle finger tendon and forearm should line up

also some of the small and ring finger stuff is related to the shoulder

but it sounds like you twist your hand too much to that side