#health

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serene temple
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how do i build up aim stamina?
i feel really tired just after 1 ranked val game and 1 h aim train session

grizzled kindle
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@serene temple I'm not an expert, struggling with the same. But my coach gave me endurance tasks for this case.
5 sphere endurance hipfire
fuglaaPressure
Pressure Aiming - 7 Targets.
It works for me but not that much and idk if it's right

serene temple
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how long is the routine?

deft radish
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I have right hand thumb pain I think from mouse side buttons are there any things i can do to help with it?

sudden sundial
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how long have you had the pain

deft radish
sudden sundial
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hmm

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Could the position you hold your mouse, be affecting this?

deft radish
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its my thumb clicking side buttons

sudden sundial
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are the side buttons in a unusual position or difficult to click?

violet swan
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One question

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why i feel like i get lost in vision

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like

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i try to play some scenario but my eyes cant read well

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i dont know how to explain very well

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like im lost

sudden sundial
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Are you or your eyes tired?

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Is there too much on the screen?

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Is there some sound around that makes it hard for you to focus

violet swan
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to be honest im sure that isnt bc of tired eyes but about too much on the screen i dont think i tried some scens w a low of dots and other w just 1 dot but still happening

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usually i play like this

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i tried changing the visuals and helped me a bit but not a real diff

sudden sundial
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I dont think the walls are helping you tbh

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It's sorta trippy imo

violet swan
violet swan
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srry my english isnt good enough

sudden sundial
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uhh, like, something that makes a hallucination type effect

violet swan
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yep

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bc of the mosaic and colors

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but i tried other visuals and didnt work at all

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i think i should be off the pc for 48hs and later see what happens

sudden sundial
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Yeah

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This is what I use if you want to try it

violet swan
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tyy

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ill try

hasty prism
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like viagra?

proven night
proven night
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is forearm tiredness/light pain normal when it comes to training static clicking?

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it goes after like 1-2 min break

violet swan
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and stretch/shake

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usually happens when u didnt warmup at all

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i think

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try this

proven night
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idk how to break it without feeling like my aim is trash

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ty ❤️

violet swan
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xd

fading pier
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Hey, anyone knows why my wrist right side is bad at tracking something?
Like When I move my wrist tracking something to the left side back and forth, everything is fine but when I go to the right side and go back and forth, my wrist struggles and jumps a few millimeters

sudden sundial
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Grip maybe? I used to have that same problem, think it was mostly my grip, or how hard I gripped

fading pier
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my grip is fingertip and I am relaxed as much as possible and I guess it's shaking

rigid citrus
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might be worth it to stretch first

fading pier
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I did

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Even did 30minute training

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okay so basically

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@rigid citrus imagine you move your wrist right

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and it pixels skips

rigid citrus
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yeah i get that sometimes too

fading pier
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It's a dumb explanation but the best I have

rigid citrus
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like jitters?

fading pier
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ye

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Wanted to say that word but I thought that the definition is bad for it

rigid citrus
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i'm not sure but definitely focus on the right side tracking

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like

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pay attention that you're not

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uh

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tightening your wrist

fading pier
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Hm

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I see

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I will try it out

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but that's later

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I have decided to use really low sensitivity for the game so tracking is no problem now

summer condor
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I’m not doing this right

wind parcel
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what will i do to avoid carpal tunnel? i usually do my hour long aim routine and i guess my wrist is starting to hurt.

strong veldt
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i notice that after a few hours of gaming, i subconsciously rotate my pad and kb like so, and have to move my monitor to account for that. i assume this is cause i seem to have my right arm further forward on the desk than my left arm when i game

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is this something i should worry about fixing? i assume it could be a sign of bad posture, but my posture is otherwise decent

silent osprey
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It's fine

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I do the exact same

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Ur brain is just looking for support under ur arm so it doesn't get tired when aiming

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Technically you can mitigate with arm rests, but they have to be the perfect level, and you still might not like that

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I always want a lot of pad under my arm personally

strong veldt
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thank you!

violet swan
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no, it's a pretty normal task, just dont do it excessively, like anything

red salmon
violet swan
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How bad of a strat is eating once a day

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For losing weight

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When u have no access to transportation

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And its so fucking hot u can't move

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I was 225 lbs

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Now I'm 170 and stable after doing that for a while

silent osprey
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Omad is fine

violet swan
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Like I eat now lol

silent osprey
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But it makes it substantially harder to get proper nutrition without supplementing

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I like 2mad or some imf variants

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As a middle ground

violet swan
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Tbh half the time the thought of eating makes my gag reflex go

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I still do but 🤷‍♀️

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Like

silent osprey
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Realistically, learning proper portion control is the most important thing

violet swan
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Today I ate a foot long at subway

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Prolly not eating anything else cuz that's a lot lol

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Also its 5pm

young ravineBOT
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violet swan
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Like

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Idk

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Its more going up to eat more than twice in a day is weird for me

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Like I'd rather do other things

sudden sundial
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After aim training if my arm is sore, do I want to rest it, or stretch it.

lilac carbon
sudden sundial
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doesnt rly hurt to stretch, was just uncomfortable trying to aim

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n arm was sore ofc

tough basin
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Are there any recognizable sign for carpal tunnel?

amber juniper
tough basin
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Like non stop?

amber juniper
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yes

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like a tingling, pinching sensation that's somewhat painful that doesn't subside even if you're not using your wrist

glacial karma
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@violet swan have you tried weight training?

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Eating 1 meal a day means you are definitely deficient in your nutrition in probably every aspect

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Weight training allows you to be hungry more, but since you are weight training, you actually send a signal to fat to stop growing on your body, this would mean you would be able to reach your goals of wanting to look a certain way, aswell as eating a healthy amount

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not getting proper nutrition is basically limiting everything uou are doing, if you are trying to improve at games, you are doing it slower, trying to improve mental, it will take longer, it’s the same with hydration, uou don’t realize that your body can function better after while of doing soemthing because your think it’s normal. just because you can “tolerate” it doesn’t mean it’s okay

tough basin
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What can I do to prevent it?

tough basin
amber juniper
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and lay off the computer for a while

tough basin
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For how much?

sudden sundial
tough basin
tough basin
sudden sundial
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does it happen naturally, say when you're not aiming a lot or smth

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or say when you're in bed

amber juniper
# tough basin Because now I'm scared

carpal can be treated, and it's good you recognize the main symptom. mainly just go to a physician since they'll probably give you the best diagnosis and advice but I would recommend spending less time on the computer and when you do, make sure to do stretches afterwards

amber juniper
tough basin
tough basin
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And then I play some games

amber juniper
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does it persist while you're playing and does it develop into pain?

sudden sundial
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when you're on your computer, not aiming, does it still happen?

tough basin
sudden sundial
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Then I doubt it's anything serious

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not serious enough to see a professional anyways

amber juniper
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yeah, then you should be alright

sudden sundial
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imo

amber juniper
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just do your stretches

sudden sundial
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make sure your posture is right aswell

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and your aiming arm is comfortable

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and that there isn't any strain when aiming

amber juniper
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probably something to ask your physician whenever you do a routine checkup but nothing to be too worried about

sudden sundial
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^

tough basin
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Are there any stretches exercises you guys want me to know about or I'll just stretch them casually?

amber juniper
tough basin
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Ty

glacial karma
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That is a very common misconception with women. Lifting weights does not do the same thing in men as it does women. My girlfriend lifted weights with me for 5 months, is now the skinniest she’s ever been.

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@violet swan i know it’s hard to believe but trust me when i say this, you have to be training at a extreme level to get muscles as a girl

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most girls you see on instagram have been training for years to look like they do with the abs and the arms, men have testosterone which helps build those muscles, women have only a fraction

sudden sundial
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Thats why the avg man is generally physically stronger than the avg woman

winter abyss
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cardio also helps

finite orchid
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Cardio is killing your gains buddy

amber juniper
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internet is a crazy resource, you can learn how to do simple things pretty quickly

glacial karma
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@silent stream What i would recommend is starting very slow and incorporating change over time. this promotes consistency and long term results. What i mean by this is say you have terrible food every day of the week. Go out to the store, by yourself chicken and rice, a very simple recipe you can find online, about 25 min all together to make. This way you at least have 1 good meal, and once you feel more comfortable you can add different things and eat healthy more often! you don’t want to cut cold turkey because that strategy rarely ever works. these things take time and with enough time you will find yourself wanting healthy foods because they make you feel good

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I’m not sure how old you are either, but if you buy all your own foods, just keep those foods out of your house and go to the grocery store on a full stomach. Don’t limit yourself to any foods. during summers i don’t eat chocolate a lot, because i choose not to, but randomly i can crave it and i just eat it because i don’t limit myself to not eating it

silent osprey
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ye u can learn to cook at any point in ur life, and it's absolutely a contender for most useful skill basically anyone can learn

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better health, cheaper than purchasing food, good for mental, good for social etc

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honestly just think of X food u enjoy eating, and see how easy/difficult it is to make urself

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if it seems within ur limits give it a go

scarlet bay
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I usually get tired at 4 or 5 in the afternoon (my eyes get droopy and I feel like I need to sleep or at least close them, I also have less engergy), does that mean I need to get more sleep?

silent osprey
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can mean like 1000 things

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if ur sleeping less than 9 hours, see if sleeping more helps

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otherwise improve ur foundational behaviors (diet, exercise, sunlight, mental health)

scarlet bay
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K

winter abyss
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aka don't buy them

quartz coral
lone heart
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Wow kovaaks improved your lifting too

grim wraith
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carry in game and irl

sudden sundial
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new kovaaks dlc

worthy cloud
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good job

silent osprey
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nice mate

hollow lion
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I don't do any strength training or anything like that. I just hit the exercise bike for low stress cardio (i want to do this until i'm at a certain weight, and then i'll carry on with actual workouts). But does anyone know if there is a difference between one 2 hour session vs two 1 hour sessions?

sudden sundial
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Mm, I dont know if theres much a diff but I’d assume you get more from 2 hr sessions, as you’re pushing yourself more in those 2 hr sessions bc youre not stopping

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Example say, you lift 10kg weights, and 20kg but you lift 20 for half the time, you’re pushing yourself more and I think you’d get more out of the 20kg for half the time

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Weird example but hope it makes sense

thorn haven
cyan rivet
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Ive noticed when im either fatigued or just not playing well, i result to aiming with my arm and not much movement with my wrist, is there anything that causes this laziness? And any way to overcome it like certain stretches or anything

sudden sundial
fading pier
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I became so lazy with my aim that I went for 3 hours straight

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It was worth it

amber karma
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very vaguely related to aim but i have a question about caffeine

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i dont drink caffeine every day but like i do see the attention and i guess reaction time improvements from it and it does lose effectiveness if you drink coffee or something every day right

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or is it like you just dont feel it but you would still have better attention than before you were drinking it

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im kinda stupid so

summer dock
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you can gain a tolerance to it just like other substances

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Thus losing “effectiveness”

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Better not to intake caffeine, as it’s still a stimulant on which you can gain a dependency on (potentially hindering in-game performance without consumption)

wind parcel
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how do you position yourself in order to prevent mouse elbow?

ripe glade
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How do i deal with stiff fingers

sudden sundial
sudden sundial
sudden sundial
ripe glade
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For cs mainly

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I think its when i dont move a lot it starts getting stiff

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When im aim training theyre never stiff

sudden sundial
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What sens dpi do you play

ripe glade
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On cs 1 on 800

sudden sundial
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Hmm

sudden sundial
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Might help w fingers

ripe glade
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Alright i will try

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Thanks

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I might just palm grip for cs

sudden sundial
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Yeah, I’m not exactly sure how you would solve your problem exactly, so that might help, maybe changing your sens could help, since you have 50cm/360

ripe glade
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Actually i think it does help

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When i used Higher sens i dont think i had this problem

sudden sundial
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Yeah, try a higher sens for a few days and see if it fixes it

ripe glade
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Is it okay to use different grips for different games

sudden sundial
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Yes, different games are better w diff grips

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But dont force yourself to use certain grips if theyre not comfortable

ripe glade
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Ive always preferred palm

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But a lot of ppl told me its bad for aiming

sudden sundial
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I use claw / claw-fingertip hybrid

sudden sundial
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If you like palm play palm!

ripe glade
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I will then thanks yay

sudden sundial
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:D

wind parcel
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my mouse elbow

sudden sundial
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The elbow on your aiming arm you mean?

wind parcel
sudden sundial
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What angle do you have from your shoulder to your elbow to your wrist

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And is your lower arm flat on your table, in line w the ground

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^

wind parcel
sudden sundial
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Is your elbow pushing against the edge of your desk?

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Into your “funny bone”

wind parcel
sudden sundial
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Is it only half your arm that is on your desk?

wind parcel
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3/4

sudden sundial
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Ahh nvm then

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Hmm, I genuinely have no clue

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Could it maybe be something to get looked at?

wind parcel
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when i was doing my aim routine maybe i did something that could trigger

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maybe pushing my arms too much

sudden sundial
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Maybe

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Just see if it persists

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Try and find what stops it from happening

wind parcel
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okay

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thanks for the help

stable swan
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So when im playing kovaaks & games my pinky starts hurting after a while

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to the point where it hurts to move my pinky

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Im currently learning claw and am using a Superlight

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but this also happened when i played Fingertip

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this has also been happening for around a month

sudden sundial
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Handsize?

stable swan
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Idk

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pretty small

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I’ll go find a tape measurer real quick

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Do I just go from my bottom of my palm to my middle finger? @sudden sundial

sudden sundial
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Yea

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And then the first knuckle on ur pinky to ur thumbv

stable swan
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Ok

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I cannot find this thing

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I’m so blind I found it

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I’m definitely doing this wrong 😂

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I measured 7x3

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No way I’m doing this right

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Is it in CM or inches? Lol

winter abyss
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cm unless ur a pleb

stable swan
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Ok lol time to use google

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16x7 @sudden sundial

sudden sundial
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Hmm, so handsize isnt a problem

stable swan
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Im guessing its the hump type thing on the side of the gpx

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where the buttons are on the normal gpro

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i could be wrong tho

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or maybe i just put to much pressure on my pinky

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its weird tho since its only my pinky that gets pain

sudden sundial
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Yeah, it is weird

stable swan
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yea idk

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i might just buy a different mouse or something

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Thanks for the help tho 🙂

violet swan
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i've been aim training for around 3 days now and my shoulder's already hurting. Idk what the issue is because my posture seems to be fine

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and this hasn't happened with me while playing any other game, it's only during aim training.

rotund glacier
stable swan
cerulean veldt
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Why does my wrist get sore during aim training

celest shard
violet swan
sand granite
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any tips for pain/discomfort in like the outer side of my wrist? like at the root of my pinky

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this area

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i tend to not have any issues when gaming or aim training as i try to stretch regularly and keep a decent posture

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but lately i've been feeling some sort of tension or slight discomfort right around there (only after playing kovaaks though)

violet swan
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Is this healthy? U ll have to zoom

thorn haven
violet swan
thorn haven
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Get a job, go to the gym, get some hobbies outside like mountain biking, you don't need to try to be fucking girls at 15

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Idk if you live somewhere that you can't easily go to a job or you can't start driving until you're 17 or something like that though

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And you gotta get some irl friends

violet swan
thorn haven
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If you slave over aim training you'll get burnt out in a couple days, much less a couple of weeks

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Plus having insane aim won't guarantee you go pro in any specific game. You've got to put time into a specific game you might want to be really good at or go pro in to actually get on top of all the mechanics

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Plus being a pro player is #1, highly unlikely and #2, not sustainable unless you're in a good/big organization with lots of sponsors, which is also very unlikely

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I'm not trying to shoot you down, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be trying to put all your eggs in the same basket of wanting to go pro in a video game

violet swan
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@violet swan What game do you wanna go pro in

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Also aim training six hours a day is not good at all max you should aim train is 2 hours

violet swan
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Because when you get to gmc what are you gonna do then how do you plan on getting better

violet swan
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2st lel

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Also i was gonna say the 2nd thing

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Oh shit

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Watching pros in the game you want to go pro in helps you improve dramatically (mechanics and game sens)

violet swan
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Also. The real goal isn't to go pro. I m not gonna cap. The reeeal goal is to get Dfalt aim lmao. Or preferably better

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also get up some if you are going to aim train 2 hours

violet swan
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like stretch

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at the hour mark or something

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Yh ofc

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It's in the schedule i did as well. Break & stretches to keep focus etc

thorn haven
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Get up, walk around, get your blood flowing. Probably every 30 minutes. Don't just mindlessly sit on your ass and click bots

violet swan
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dfalt aim is mostly smoothness tbh

violet swan
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recoil control is in game training though im talking kovaaks

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also cod recoil is nothing tbh

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He was semi pro R6 tho :)

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I m a fan boy kekw

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oh i only know him from cod

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He came from r6

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Like 7000 hrs or smth lol

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yeah being good at a game takes time like that

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Yep

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Sadly enough

violet swan
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Yes

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Good still takes time. But can be shortened if u do it right

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Gotta go monkey. Nice talking. Later g

storm verge
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is there a good infographic on proper desk height and such

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my desk used to be way to high and less than a year ago i got an adjustable desk but it may have been too low

silent osprey
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its just whatever lets u have the most neutral and sustainable resting/playing position

storm verge
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i guess i just dont know what that is now cause i noticed my elbow lifting off cause its so low

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cause i remain in a neutral spine so i dont hunch forward just to have it touch

frail pelican
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whats best desk that has a lot of space for aiming

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if that makes sense

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i use a L shaped desk

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its weird to aim on this

thorn haven
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The only thing that could possibly change how you aim on a specific desk, other than obvious quality issues that fuck with you, would be how tall it is. It's mostly personal preference and comfort. No specific shape is better than one another unless there's some retarded shape someone uses that juts out and hits people in random places

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I use a L shaped desk but I don't rest my arm on the side that wraps around me

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I just put most of my forearm on the pad and play with it like that instead of resting my arm on my chair or desk

violet swan
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how do I stop leaning forward and making my neck hurt

vast ferry
violet swan
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o true

violet swan
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My body aches a lot

dim stirrup
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Has anyone whos suffered with long term chronic arm / wrist pain ever been able to get rid of it?

storm verge
# violet swan My body aches a lot

focus on posture sitting up straight and your desk might be too low, body compensates to get forearm to elbow flat so you lean forward

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monitor should be below eye level and approx. one arm length away

violet swan
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also I've been lowering my chair

storm verge
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Yeah you can adjust the chair or desk as long as your body is as close to '90 degree' angles as possible

violet swan
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lovering chair so desk is higher in relation

storm verge
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yup

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you can literally test it too

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lift your forearm slightly off desk

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then lean forward and youll see itll flatten out and touch

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just force yourself to sit properly and maybe move arm more towards edge as well

violet swan
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my arm doesn't hurt

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mosly my legs and back

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and neck

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lmao

storm verge
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yes but what i told you has to do with posture

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you should be sitting up right with a natural curvature in your back (neutral spine) looking slightly below eye level at monitor

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there are posture exercises on youtube that can help strengthen those muscles to help]

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so they dont fatigue and you end up going back to bad sitting posture

sudden granite
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If you have a pull up bar I highly recommend doing dead hangs after gaming sessions

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Bad posture while gaming seems inevitable unless your posture muscles are strong

sudden granite
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@violet swan oh why?

sudden sundial
violet swan
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yea

sudden granite
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lol whoops pepega

formal locust
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So can anyone with like gym knowledge help me out ig

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So basically I’ve been eating less lately and skating a lot trying to lose weight and tbh it’s going pretty well

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Do u think it’s a good idea to add like gym into that as well

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Not like cardio but more like working muscles and strength training

tall robin
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personally i really enjoy going to the gym, and it isn't a bad idea to try and build up some muscle

fallen glen
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If you’re wanting to build muscle, you’re going to want to make sure that you’re eating enough protein to do so.

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If you’ve never lifted weights before, it may not be a bad idea to talk to the gym you’re looking into about a few sessions with a personal trainer - to help you learn good form, as well as getting you on a program.

silent osprey
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u wont rlly see a huge difference in weight loss, especially if youre putting on mass with resistance training

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but if youre motivated enough defo get in the gym, resistance training is a really good for your overall health

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doubly so if youre already doing some cardio with skating n shit

worthy cloud
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it's a good idea to recomp and build a muscular base before jumping into a weight cut as a person who is currently untrained

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otherwise you may end up eating next to nothing and still 'skinny fat'

obsidian elbow
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Do you guys think games with zero movement acceleration are worse for hand/wrist/arm health, because more sudden, extreme movements are required when tracking a target that changes direction?

gray mist
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This is somewhat unrelated to aim training, but more health in general.i usually feel like I need caffeine in the morning in the form of coffee or energy drinks. It helps, the problem is that my legs often start shaking a lot. Like a lot a lot. I don't really know what to do about it, it doesn't hurt but just feels kinda weird and looks kinda weird to my classmates when my leg have Parkinson's at 8am

restive trellis
gray mist
rotund glacier
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This is more a theorycraft than a question but, you ever get days where you just "pop off"? It's like, you feel like you plateau'd then the next day you just beat high scores left and right, perform much better in game despite it feeling seamless. What leads to this? It's almost like the brain subconsciously figured out something or cleared a threshold about the game or hand movement

restive trellis
gray mist
restive trellis
# rotund glacier This is more a theorycraft than a question but, you ever get days where you just...

You could feel the same but so many things could have changed. It's not just "yesterday I was bad, today I'm good", you maybe slept really well, changed something in the food you take, or maybe got a good news and you're in a good mood.... They're are so many factors that could change from one day to the other. Of course you have to take your training into account, but usually you won't break your PB when you haven't slept for 20 hours.

ashen rune
ripe valve
ripe valve
ripe valve
candid nacelle
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are hand tremors like this normal

rotund glacier
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Yeah, your arm/wrist just isn't used to smoothly tracking a target yet. If you didn't have a target I bet you could turn smoothly

fallow folio
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sorry guys my ENG not that great but I Feel pain from shoulder to my wrist I use 46.65 Cm/360 i like that sens since I play valorant mainly
what should i do?

solid quartz
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should i have my arm planted on my mousepad?

solid quartz
# candid nacelle https://streamable.com/ed9mjz

i think you are looking at your crosshair and not focusing on target.. try to focus on your target only check for milisecond if you are on or off target.. your crosshair wont fly away.. it always in the mid of the screen 😄

violet swan
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My right and left hand mouse grips are different, is that weird

silent osprey
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no

lavish wharf
# fallow folio sorry guys my ENG not that great but I Feel pain from shoulder to my wrist I us...

Bro i was having the same problem and what really helped me was making sure my arm was at a 90 degree angle at the elbow. Really focus on pinching your shoulder blades together and having the correct height. That helped my pain dramatically. It will he especially bad if you internally rotate your wrist (left for your right hand) and tilt your shoulder forward. Avoid that at all costs. Hope it helps

lethal cloak
silent osprey
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isnt it usually the opposite lol

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i thought stimulants generally helped adhd people hyperfocus on X thing

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seems to be my personal experience at least

sudden sundial
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I think it just helps you w focus, doesnt give any extra energy or anything

hot turret
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Any tips for tendinitis?

old bronze
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how to stop yourself from binge eating

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i generally eat a small amount from breakfast to lunch but then once i get home from school, i just end up binge eating or eating too much

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and then i instantly regret it afterwards

solid quartz
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i only workout 3-4 days per workout for 1 hour

gray mist
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Yeah it's a result of excessive cardio training lol

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I can't do it anymore, but i used to run 15+ hours a week

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And that's intense interval training for the most part, rarely jogging

solid quartz
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i would die by that amount

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with 36 you need more rest 😄

gray mist
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Well, it kinda killed me as well, which is why i quitted.
I still regret quitting once in a while though

acoustic swan
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@cedar nexus

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i have a crippling meth addiction

cedar nexus
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same

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i have aids

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in my penis

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@acoustic swan daily masterbaition

acoustic swan
cedar nexus
meager cobalt
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I mean whatevers comfortable and u perform best on shud be priority

ocean brook
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Hello, once in a while (10 days or two weeks usually) i get a little pain around this area. Looking at what is hurting i think it's one of the things i circled in the picture. I'm not too sure of which one of those is it tho; has anyone else experienced this/ knows why this happens and what can i do about it? It usually goes away after not playing for a day

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usually i already feel like that before i start playing, and i used tothink it was just because i wasn't warmed up, but even when i try to warm up or just play, i can't get rid of it for that day

unborn storm
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Penso tu stia per morire. Dovresti consultare un buon becchino per organizzare al meglio le onoranze funebri, se posso darti un consiglio, il mogano è un ottimo legno praydge .

hollow geode
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Use mobility work and warming up before Kovaaks

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Bind shoot to spacebar for tracking scenarios instead of holding down M1

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Fix posture

worthy cloud
violet swan
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my hand has been getting tired extremely fast, i sometimes can't even complete a kovaak scenario without feeling tired. This was not happening before the summer and i don't know what could be the reason for this to happen

ocean brook
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The one i showed in the picture is a brachial plexus

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Which i think is what hurts

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Because i don't think a muscle is hurting

sacred hamlet
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remember to stretch gamers

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and to see a doctor/physio sooner rather than later

silent osprey
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stretching is overrated

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strengthening through range of motion is underrated!

sacred hamlet
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stretching helps take pressure off of tendons that's built up during exercise, as well as helps with removing tight spots, which can very much help your motorics

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source: lived with a pro golf player most of my life

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that being said, yes - strengthening is very much the way

hard flame
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my right arm has been feeling extremely weak for the past week, it has been affecting my smoothness

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is there anything I could do to treat it?

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Either take a long ass break, or some stretches

violet swan
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^same problem but I haven't played for about a month now and my arm is either shaking, extremely weak or very stiff

sand tartan
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this helped me so much

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really recommend checking it

violet swan
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that's why both of us are here and wait for ideas of others about this problem and some solutions

hard flame
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true

fading pier
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I had the same problem when I took a break for a few weeks or a good month. When I came back to fps I kept playing the game without paying much attention to it

hard flame
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problem with me is that I have been playing this whole time

violet swan
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@hard flame do you have a hefty amount of muscles or are you a skeleton like me?

hard flame
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I haven't played anything today cause I don't wanna worsen anything

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I'M BONES

fading pier
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I could help you but I am afraid of giving a really shitty advice

hard flame
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at this rate i'll take anything

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I'm asking on discord ffs

violet swan
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well build up muscles like me xD I am also just starting with some muscle training and it should get better from what I have gotten from docs and some physiotherapists

hard flame
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i'd love to do that

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don't know where to start

ocean brook
hard flame
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What I find the most abnormal is that I still get pretty decent tracking scores

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I don't get that

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even after my arm starts trembling mid run

mossy heart
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weakness in limbs can indicate some severe illnesses or medication problems

hard flame
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??

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WHAT

mossy heart
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i mean obviously odds are low it is this specifically

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its probably just your arm being tired

hard flame
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for a week?

mossy heart
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but i would check with a doctor if i were yo

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yeah okay it might actually be somthing bad then

hard flame
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ah jeez

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but that article only lists leg weaknesses

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sooo..

mossy heart
hard flame
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I think I should just take a break from games

mossy heart
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how intense are you aiming

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because its hard to imagine you are strianing your arm that much

hard flame
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I haven't been aim training very often

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I've only done 2 -3 hours this week

mossy heart
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i doubt this is aim related then

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you should really see a doctor if only to get their opinion

hard flame
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funny enough, this kinda started ever since I bought a sleeve

mossy heart
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maybe it's something obvious you haven't noticed

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hrrm

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are you hovering your arm

hard flame
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no

mossy heart
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how tight is it

hard flame
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nothing crazy

mossy heart
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its possible its compressing blood vessels

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would explain everything but that is very rare fr a sleeve

hard flame
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very true

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but that's all i'm getting

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I do tend to tense a lot but only during aim training

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but I haven't aim trained much this week

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I am finding it weird that my right hand is cold but my left is warm

hollow geode
# sacred hamlet stretching helps take pressure off of tendons that's built up during exercise, a...

I’m pretty sure stretching only increases the length of a muscle, and thus, increasing flexibility. Exercise actually is beneficial to tendon health, and any “tightening” after exercise is usually due to muscle damage and repair. Also the benefits of increased flexibility for preventing injury are unclear, but most recent studies have shown stretching does not decrease the likelyhood of injuries such as tendonitis developing.

violet swan
fading pier
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Yeah which is really annoying considering when you need to aim but you feel uncomfortable with the cold arm. Anyways you either play really aggressive or just warm-up really well

fading pier
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I put my whole arm on the table/mousepad

hard flame
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status update: my pinky is tingling

sudden sundial
thorn haven
hard flame
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is hot water better than cold in my situation

thorn haven
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you're trying to heat your hand up to improve blood flow, so yes

hollow geode
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Pinky tingling usually means the cubital tunnel nerve is being compressed

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Warm water can help

hard flame
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oh ok thanks boys

brittle lion
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The posture guide mentions this:

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But what does "elbows locked against your body, maintaining an angle between 90 and 100 degrees" look like?

thorn haven
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Put your elbow against your torso and put it at a 90 degree angle

brittle lion
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so the elbow is completely glued to the body, so to speak?

thorn haven
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I guess so, my desk is too high so even if I wanted to I wouldn't be able to do that

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As long as you're not playing in some overly fucked up way you should be fine

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But elbows locked against your body is gonna hurt your aim

brittle lion
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yeah, that's why I asked

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Seems like it makes aiming hard since you can only pivot around your elbow

thorn haven
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I say that as long as your shoulder isn't at an angle more extreme than 60° and your elbow is between 90° and 110° you shouldn't have issues

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Because elbows locked against the body is impractical and some people can't even really do it especially if they're not exactly on the thin side

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That's purely anecdotal though and not based on any science, so take that for what's it's worth

ripe glade
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Is it normal to feel my joints rubbing on my fingers when i claw?

thorn haven
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Wdym rubbing, like you feel friction between them?

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And do you do a normal claw or an exaggerated claw and do you strain your hand a lot while playing?

ripe glade
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I dont strain a lot but it happens with any claw

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I dont really know how to explain it

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All i can say is that its really uncomfortable

thorn haven
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Does it feel like a bad hinge?

ripe glade
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Yeah

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Exactly that

violet swan
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Is it normal everytime i roll or move my wrist in like a circle clockwise it cracks

ripe glade
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I think it is, happens to me too

sudden sundial
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If it's a little "pop", then it's probably not anything to be worried about

rotund glacier
wet sparrow
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my upper arm often feels overactive while aiming and causes shaking, any ideas on what may be causing it and how to fix this issue?

twin silo
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Would sticking to a higher sens(25-35cm) eventually get used to the use, and lead to my wrist not being so strained and mildly painful? or would I end up just getting worse? I tend to always go back to really low sens(50-60cm usually) as it is predominantly a arm aim sens, but in any game but valorant I struggle to be comfortable with such large movements slows down my mobility in games like Apex, oh and tracking is just weird on such a low sens in such a fast paced game. (ps is this an advice question or health?)

twin silo
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Do you use aimlabs or koovaks?

wet sparrow
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kovaaks

twin silo
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1w6target small I believe is the name. I like this scenario as you can gain a lot of control by going for accuracy

wet sparrow
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my issue isnt accuracy

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well it is but it isnt

twin silo
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It's about fundamentals and focusing on your pivot points

wet sparrow
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i guess

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one issue i need to figure out is that i do not have a lot of room for my arm on my desk so i end up using my chairs arm rest

twin silo
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I would think a chair arm rest would cause instability

wet sparrow
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yeah im not sure how to do it without terrible posture since my monitor has these obnoxious legs that take up almost half the vertical space on my desk

twin silo
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Oof a lot of issues setup wise, that is tough. Best I could think of is to use either a higher sens so your more wrist based or use mouse accel. Both would help to accommodate for the setup issues. I don't like to suggest setting changes too much, but it seems like it could help a lot of issues.

wet sparrow
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the only solution i can think of to my setup is just getting rid of one of my monitors

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which i just do not want to do

twin silo
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No don't sweat the setup so much, accommodate through your settings.

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If anyone has anything more I would appreciate it I can't come up with anything better. I would say try 25-45cm/360 sens to focus more on wrist aiming. should remove your shaking.

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Also if you practice the smaller muscles in your wrist you will develop more control thus also reducing shaking.

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@wet sparrow Sorry I don't have anything much better. I really don't like saying to change your settings but it is the best advice I have.

wet sparrow
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no problem, thanks for trying (maybe its time to invest in a monitor stand)

hallow axle
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should my arms stick to my body?

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i have a hard time choosing right posture tbh might just test few

sudden sundial
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My arms go off to the side, but are still at around a 100 degree angle

twin silo
# hallow axle should my arms stick to my body?

In theory as stated it is best to have 90degree angles all over your body. Comfort is key though, S1mple is one of the best aimers in csgo, but sits really low on his desk with his arm out like wings. Here is a video that explains well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_z6bCy1ZI&ab_channel=RonRamboKim.

How we position the aiming arm directly influences our ability to control the mouse and aim the crosshair. In this video, I talk about the vertical height of the aiming arm and how it's influenced by a desk and chair.
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Fully Homepage: https://bit.ly/2GEtE9U
Jarvis Whiteboard Standing Desk: https://bit.ly/2RJ8kGq
Jarvis Monitor Arm: https://bit...

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maiden seal
hollow geode
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What do you need help on? It’s fairly self explanatory I thought

maiden seal
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Not that I need "help"
just that seeing someone else do it would give me affirmation that im doing them correctly

hollow geode
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Understandable, I’ll try making a video guide today

hollow geode
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Hope this helps

maiden seal
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yes actually

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thanks alot :D

open ivy
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https://youtu.be/JoedUZ4OpPY

This video also puts into perspective the science behind the wrist exercises - although it is adequately addressed in kastor's pdf (its about managing demand vs. capacity)

1HP

Wrist pain is by far the MOST common complaint I get when I work with pros and gamers. And the first thing they often encounter online are resources telling them to rest, brace, just do stretches! Sorry that’s not going to help in the LONG run. These are just methods for short-term relief. I’m Dr. Hwu and i’m the esports injury doctor and over t...

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violet swan
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Anybody have any good arm stretches?

open ivy
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We can go over specific stretches based on what you might be feeling 🙂

twin silo
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First thing many doctors have told me for wrist pain is a brace. When I first wore my wrist brace I wore it to bed and the next morning my wrist felt 10x better almost like magic. Kind of think I also may sleep funky on my wrist hence my crazy improvement, but I find my wrist gets far less angry(if at all) at me when I wear a brace to bed everyday.

terse willow
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my armpit starts twitching like a jackhammer whenever i play high sens tracking

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anyone know whats up with that

fallow garden
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@terse willow you’re flexing too much try to be more relaxed while aiming

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It hinders progress and is a bad habit you’ll need to get rid off

rocky orchid
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I have Ulcerative Colitis, so it's hard to game

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Getting surgery for it tomorrow

tawdry shell
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hello, i have all the time shoulder problems when i´m gaming. Did someone have a tipp or a tool to get my perfekt desk and chair hight

hallow axle
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@tawdry shell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_z6bCy1ZI this one is ultimate i think try it

How we position the aiming arm directly influences our ability to control the mouse and aim the crosshair. In this video, I talk about the vertical height of the aiming arm and how it's influenced by a desk and chair.
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Fully Homepage: https://bit.ly/2GEtE9U
Jarvis Whiteboard Standing Desk: https://bit.ly/2RJ8kGq
Jarvis Monitor Arm: https://bit...

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violet swan
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is there a reason why I feel sleepy all the time? will exercise help? is it the food I eat? I just feel weak even after waking up

novel whale
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maybe sleep apnea

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but idk

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go to the doctor get yourself a checkup

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yearly checkups it's free anyway (in my country at least)

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might be bad to guess in the internet unless it's quite specific

dusk crescent
violet swan
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pepeThink I guess i'll try to improve everything lol

glacial karma
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@violet swan Exercise will 100% help, it can be good, caffeine intake etc

heavy stream
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since like 8 weeks now I'm always freezing, I get scared easily (like when I get shot in game) and my mechanics just feel so off... not really sure what changed. I'm working out 4x times a week

restive trellis
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Do you sleep enough ? Usually feeling cold happens when tired. And getting scared easily may come from anxiety, wich could lead to you not sleeping enough...

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Other than that, aren't you taking something you weren't taking before, like caffeine or anything that you did not take before or maybe in smallest amounts. You could try to work out less too.

heavy stream
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I am sleeping enough, yes. I do go to bed a bit later than I used to I guess but I don't usually feel tired in the morning

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I've always been drinking coffee, 2-3 cups a day, but I don't find myself being sensitive to it. I did start taking creatine but I think that was like a month before I had any issues

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if I work out less than I do I get back pain, I don't think I'm doing too much tbh

glacial karma
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@heavy stream depends, do you feel tired after workout, do you feel sore the next day after working out, anything after working out than feeling awake and good?

heavy stream
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no working out feels good but I also can't do as many reps as I used to

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like I don't have much energy

glacial karma
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How about food consumption? are you running or just weight lifting

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what do you do as a job aswell? how long working out per day

heavy stream
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I'm eating as always, which is like 5x a day. I'm doing a body weight workout however I am not seeing too many gains tbh, I cannot gain weight in general idk (guess I just have high metabolism)
I'm a programmer so I pretty much sit all day

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I workout 16 sets, 45 seconds + 15 seconds break

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with warmup and cooldown takes me like 25 minutes

heavy stream
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now that I think about it, it was 8 weeks ago when I developed stress related anxiety because of exams. I ended up passing all of them but my anxiety never really went away I think

heavy stream
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not sure if anyone can help me here, I think I will just try going to bed earlier and getting more sunlight unless somebody has any other advice?

restive trellis
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To me that really looks like you need more rest and eat more.
You don't have much energy when you work out, you can't do as many reps as before, you feel sleepy, you can't gain weight... Maybe you are too stressed and that prevents you from eating and sleeping enough.

heavy stream
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I don't really feel sleepy, but yeah I might need some more rest during the day

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and I never could gain weight even though I'm eating a lot

restive trellis
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Yeah, that's what every person who does not manage to gain weight says, but that has nothing to do with metabolism for most people. It's just that you have some habits and you don't realize it. If you track how you eat for a month, with an app and put everything you eat in it you'll see that you don't eat enough to gain weight. Try to calculate how much kcal you should be eating per day, and create a plan for that. When you eat enough try to increase your intake by 200-300kcal per day, and you should slowly gain weight.

heavy stream
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hmmm alright I'm willing to try that, any app in particular you recommend?

plucky haven
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Cronometer and MFP tend to be the most commonly used kcal counters I see people use. @restive trellis is right that most people's metabolisms are very close to what you would predict based on their body composition (unless you have some true clinical issues, in which case you'd already know). The general rule I tell most clients is to gain 0.5-1.0% bodyweight per month. For every 1 lb. you need to gain, increase daily caloric intake by 150 kcal (so if you are trying to gain 2 lbs, increase by 300 kcal per day, etc.).

You can also look to space your water away from meals so you have more room to eat without getting full, and you can focus on some higher calorie dense healthy options like: avocadoes, nuts/seeds, whole eggs, nut butters, dried fruit, fattier cuts of meat, etc.

heavy stream
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I downloaded "Fddb" which apparently has many German items listed.
I will try drinking less before meals!

glacial karma
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@heavy stream i would also recommend weight training, you are doing a ton, 16 sets is a lot and it sounds like hitt training meaning those 45 seconds you are going hard am i correct

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You also don’t want to do the same thing over and over again, the body is extremely adaptive and if you only doing that body weight training with no changes, you won’t gain any weight

heavy stream
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I think I really should do some different training as well yeah

glacial karma
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@heavy stream you should only be doing the same workout for about 6 weeks and week phases

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i would say do less Hiit aswell, jt really sounds like you are over working your body even though you aren’t “doing much” it’s recommended you do about 9-15 sets per body part, you are doing thag in 1 day

rotund hare
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anyone keep track of micronutrients on there diets? anyone know a "diet" with the lowest possible calories to fill the DV of all micronutrients? (asking for a freind XD)

violet swan
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I'm feeling like I've either hit a mental block for my games (Apex, and Valo, Valo I'm trying to improve in) or my mind has gone downhill, generally feeling burnt but wanting to improve. Any advice? (sorry if this is vague, my mental/focus feeling like it going downhill and I wanna actively improve in Valo since I'm bronze in that but hit diamond in apex at one point)

hollow geode
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  1. Play through it 2. Take a break, usually what most people do during a mental block or mechanical plateau. Play other games, do other things, it’s that simple.
hollow geode
silent osprey
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Tho that's probably the least healthy mindset anyone can have regarding diet

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Eat diverse whole foods and take a multivitamin, then start worrying about calories

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Extreme defecit cuts are really not good

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Hyper unsustainable and there is a food chance you fail or quit

rotund hare
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ik

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but he wants to figure out what foods fill all the micros

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then add untill he has the right amount of calories

hollow geode
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Just focus on reaching a calorie intake of -100/-250 from maintance

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If he wants to cut just focus on reaching protein intake

rotund hare
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ye after platue change his calorie in take or his output and take it slow yeah...

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whats a good food for for zinc?

paper rivet
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For a few years now I’ve had a weird issue with my left hand wrist , there’s like a tendon or something that seems to be popping in and out and it never used to hurt but now it does , also it only pops in and out when I do wrist extension exercises , the red area is where I can see the tendon or something popping in and out and it hurts there

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Any advice for what I should do?

karmic parcel
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try wrist and grip strengthening exercises

plucky haven
# rotund hare anyone keep track of micronutrients on there diets? anyone know a "diet" with th...

It's really tough to be clinically deficient in any micronutrient due to fortifications of food products these days. As long as you are not eating a diet that is chronically less than ~1200 kcal, and it is suitably balanced, you won't have to worry so much about specific micronutrients. In general, the less calories you need, the more nutrient dense your foods have to be. As your calorie needs grow (like with increasing amounts of exercise), you get a lot more latitude with your diet. I've worked with athletes needing 6000+ calories in a day. For them, I really don't care (OK I kind of care) if they eat a whole pizza if their remaining 4,000 calories are quality.

Your most micronutrient dense foods are your fruits and vegetables. As a general rule, I like to say have at least one serving of each for every 1,000 kcal you are consuming (with a minimum of 2 each). If you are getting at least that much in, you won't be deficient. Now, recommended daily allotments per US government were built on population averages and the amounts needed to not die. Not dying is a very different standard than peak health or performance. If you are good with 'not dying' then that will get you by and honestly be better than most Americans, but if you want to optimize you're gonna need a bit more.

Supplemental micros only really make sense for specific clinical deficiencies (like iron deficiency anemia, etc.). Otherwise, eating a good balance of whole foods is best. If you want a specific cheesy recommendation, I like to tell clients to 'eat the rainbow' when possible. Each color of whole food plants have a unique mixture of micros and phytonutrients. If you want to get them all, then eat them all. When I'm being lazy, I have a smoothie I make where I just toss one of each into it and chug it for breakfast and call it a day.

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(If you're curious it's: apple, avocado, kale, spinach, carrots, tomato, banana, frozen berries vs. some citrus, oat or almond milk, and some protein powder)

open ivy
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Tilt management, emotional regulation, stress tolerance, etc.

frosty mica
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hi is there a vod demonstration of the wrist/posture guide? I'm having difficulty understanding how to do 1 and 2 of the posture correction routine

winter fiber
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Glad I’m not the only one struggling with that

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I’m just trying not to strain my wrist more than I have

radiant sparrow
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Hello Gamers I have a questions reguarding arm rest. Do you guys aim with support from your chair arm rest or not?

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I usually have my whole arm on my desk, but I was just curious since I was in the market for a new chair and standing desk.

silent osprey
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Exercise = cognitive improvement

sudden sundial
dim stirrup
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What's the best way to strengthen wrists and will it help with pain symptons?

heavy stream
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I pretty much always work my shoulders or back because otherwise my shoulders, back or wrists will hurt

hollow geode
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This is a question directed at 1HP (don't know if I'm allowed to ping) but, in your wrist strengthening video, you recommend doing a set of 3x12 daily as part of a routine. Isn't that excessive? I've heard of people doing high rep - low weight eccentrics daily, but not the opposite. Essentially it's a heavy slow resistance protocol no? Therefore, wouldn't it be more effective for the exercises to be performed every third day, or even every other day, since tendon synthesis peaks at 72 hours?

keen folio
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Guys pls help im constantly wake up at 4am while go to bed at 12pm and cant sleep anymore(but want) for a 5 days help please

fading pier
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@mossy heart mm yes I think you can help him there

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with the quick and simple solution if you know what I mean

mossy heart
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a long release melatonin will also really help you get to slepe

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it wont knock you out but it'll help bring in the sleepy feeling

fading pier
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and yes and if that wont work use sleeping pills and jack daniels peperHmmn

mossy heart
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ahahah that's what i did

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it worked

fading pier
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that scarred me for life

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my dude

novel whale
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morning sunlight and afternoon sunlight make sure it hits your eyes

silent osprey
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ye just stay up until u go to bed at like 8pm or something or whatever

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then u can fix ur actual sleep problems from there

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(exercise, mental, meal timing etc)

keen folio
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@silent osprey @novel whale @thorn haven @mossy heart thx guys for all ur advices!!!!

mossy heart
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I didnt sleep for 4 days straight a while ago and spent like 6 weeks only sleeping half the time

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I have developed some techniques that work, even if they aren't pretty

solid stump
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what's sleep's impact on improvement?

novel whale
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big

north bison
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am thinking of a new chair to get. Big question is, should I get a piano bench because on my old chairs i almost never use the back portion of the chair or do I invest into an office chair which can support my seating style?

late ridge
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Ive been getting this mild pain every so often directly above the pisiform bone(i think thats what its called, the circle bone thing on ur wrist). I took like a week break and it felt fine but after awhile it kinda came back. Is there anything I can do to help with that like stretches or something? I'm planning on taking a longer break this time but im wondering if there's anything else I can do

gray mist
turbid fossil
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Guys is this normal:
Left eye has good sight and sees everything clear on all distances, but sees everything a bit more blue.
Right eye has poor sight and can only see things clear on short distance, but sees the colors much more vibrant and living.

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also my right eye can see things in the distance much more clearly when I pull on the skin next to it by the way.

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and when I do that, it keeps its color vision

solid stump
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i'm pretty sure that eyes usually compensate for eachother's weaknesses by stitching the vision together

sudden sundial
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I dont think it’s a regular thing tho

sudden sundial
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Like chair/desk height, positioning of kb n m

thorn haven
turbid fossil
thorn haven
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You shouldn't be asking people on discord, you should be consulting a doctor who is professionally qualified to help you out instead of a bunch of people like me talking out of our asses with a PhD in Google and youtube

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Just go to an optometrist and get your shit checked out

fading pier
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Yeah so I am a qualified doctor, @turbid fossil you are mentally unstable

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(dont take this seriously)

mint wasp
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Yo anyone's had ulnar nerve problems before? When I lay my arm on my desk to play or even bend my elbow I get tingling around my shoulder and lat

turbid fossil
thorn haven
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are you like incredibly antisocial or something? you shouldn't be trying to get shit diagnosed by people over discord, go to someone in person where they can help you out the right way instead of trying to get doctors on discord

turbid fossil
thorn haven
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get the right diagnosis and treatment instead of trying to do shit online

turbid fossil
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Its for old people

thorn haven
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I'm trying to help you out

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ok whatever

turbid fossil
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Old people with glasses

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I don’t want glasses

silent osprey
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Rofl

turbid fossil
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@thorn haven so I understand you don’t want me to visit the doctors discord, but can you still give me a link?

fallen glen
# turbid fossil I just dont like going to the opticien

Not a bad idea to see an ophthalmologist annually even if you don’t wear or need glasses. Insurance etc. factors in, many policies cover annual eye exams though. Just like getting an annual physical, it’s all about prevention and being able to trend things if they change

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If you have health insurance and aren’t sure what your policy guidelines are just give them a call and they’ll be able to get you the information you need. It may even be free. I know with my insurance an annual physical, an annual eye exam, and a semi-annual dental exam are free

sudden sundial
sudden sundial
# turbid fossil Old people with glasses

Definitely not, people are literally born, needing glasses already, often people dont know themselves they need glasses because they dont have an image to compare to
My brother was short sighted for years around the age of 10, before he found out, and then got glasses

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If you dont like the idea of wearing glasses, contact lenses do the same job, and surgery is an option aswell I believe

fallen glen
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Yeah one example being lasik which has helped a lot of people with their vision. If you’re having an issue with that you’d need to see a doctor in order to determine whether or not you’re eligible

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Again, an ophthalmologist is probably a good doctor to see. Whether that’s for routine exams or your current situation. They can point you in the right direction from there

thorn haven
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lasik is temporary though, in the early days it lasted for ~10 years but I think they've brought it up to 20 now

turbid fossil
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my sight is fine

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just only in my left eye :/

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not in my right eye

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and well the blue'ish tint thing doesn't matter that much, only for the vibrancy of things. If I look at a field of flowers through my right eye it just looks so much more beautiful

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but other than that its fine I guess

sudden sundial
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You wont know if it matters or not, until you actually see a proffessional

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And you cant make that judgement yourself, unless you're a professional

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Maybe people are just born like that or whatever, and it really doesnt matter too much, but how will you know for sure?

thorn haven
sudden sundial
thorn haven
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I was talking about where he said his sight is fine in his right eye but not fine in his left eye

solid herald
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is there any foods that help with cognitive health?

spark jewel
solid herald
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just for cognitive health doesnt have to be for games

spark jewel
gray mist
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How do I find out how many hours of sleep I need/should get?

silent osprey
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u dont

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feel it out

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generally your body will wake up when its ready to

silent osprey
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tho sometimes people oversleep naturally

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the length of time u can sleep the longest without waking up and feeling overslept or tired or whatever

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is probably a good place to start

gray mist
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Sometimes I feel good and refreshed with as little as 3-4 hours, other days I can sleep up to 12-13 hours and feel like it's not enough. It doesn't feel like there's a consistent correlation between the amount of sleep I get and how I feel the day after which I find odd.

turbid fossil
plucky haven
# solid herald just for cognitive health doesnt have to be for games

The number one diet most consistently rated for cognitive health is the Mediterranean Diet. There's nothing magical about it to be honest, and you don't have to follow it strictly, but some of the core focuses of the diet are great for the brain. Specifically - healthy sources of fat (fatty fish, olive oil, nuts/seeds, eggs, avocadoes, etc.), fruits and vegetables (berries are especially potent), inclusion of fish. These nutrients are conducive for supporting the brain structure itself, the day to day fueling requirements, and the repair capacity. @spark jewel is also right that water is probably the best bang for buck in terms of cognitive health if you are someone going from chronically dehydrated -> well hydrated.

velvet fjord
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Recently, I'm having issues with my right eyelid being weaker/lower than my left eyelid. I talked to my optometrist and she just said its something about left eye being dominant. Should I talk to a different doctor about this? I get enough sleep too.

spark jewel
# gray mist How do I find out how many hours of sleep I need/should get?

research says 7-9. that being said, everyone needs different hours of sleep. try a self experiment and dont set an alarm (when you can) and see how many hours you sleep naturally. try 3 days or a week if you can. another ways to find is track how you feel after x number of hours of sleep on a scale of 1 -terrible and 10-amazing. get a week or 2 worth of data and you can adjust from there. what do you think?

tranquil cradle
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Just a reminder for everyone:
While some of us on the discord might be more qualified than others in the medical/health space, we at most can give general advice akin to what may be on Youtube channel or website.
To have proper medical/health advice you need someone to have assessed you properly - a consultation.

General rule, if something is not improving, or if you are unsure --> Please seek professional help.
You can always start with a local health professional in your area/country.
(The 1HP team exists since not all health professionals understand or have experience in gaming/esports)

gray mist
spark jewel
scenic peak
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Anyone know a way to help with Eye fatigue while training?

turbid fossil
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Also drink enough water pls

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I sleep 4-5 hours on weekdays.

Should I compensate for this by sleeping 7-8 hours in the weekend or should I stay closer to maybe 6 hours?

thorn haven
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You should compensate by creating a schedule that allows you to at least sleep 7 hours a day every day

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Sleep isn't something you should be trying to skimp out on

spark jewel
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to get good at esports it is even more important that we break it down back to basics bc we are dealing with thinking and cognition

spark jewel
turbid fossil
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I get its not optimal

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But I’m just tired no matter how long I sleep lol

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Doesnt really make a difference for 5 hours or 8 hours usually

spark jewel
turbid fossil
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can't

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not looking for psychology

sudden sundial
turbid fossil
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but for my feeling, it's literally the same

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that's the thing

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I don't know what I'm supposed to do for my health

sudden sundial
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You dont have anything to compare to, if you randomly became rested right now magically, you'd probably feel better than you currently do.

turbid fossil
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How would I become rested?

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sleep more?

sudden sundial
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If you could swap between them, then you can judge it

turbid fossil
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I did that during the holiday

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didn't do anything for me

sudden sundial
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There is multiple hours between, and it's not instant

turbid fossil
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last year was full online lessons, I swapped a lot back then

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I forced myself to sleep 6-7 hours for ~2 weeks with no improvement

sudden sundial
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Think right now. Mousepads wear down overtime, and it's not instant, but many people dont know their mousepads are worn down too much because they dont have a mousepad to compare too. Now w sleep it's the same thing, except your energy needs to be "changed" more often, and you cant really easily compare the 2 between eachother because you cant have a 2 batteries for your body's energy to change between

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swapping to a newer mousepad, might not always make you do better at all, and maybe do even worse, you need to use it for a bit consistently and get used to it before it actually makes a positive difference

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It usually doesnt make you play poorly not swapping/sleeping less, but the amount you actually improve overlonger term is much better

turbid fossil
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Ive only once switched mousepads from random crappad to aqua control+ and it was fine from the very first second

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for sleep

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I have tried sleeping more

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it just doesnt really do anything for me

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not anything that I can feel

thorn haven
spark jewel
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just saying its all connected. I know you didnt want psychology so ill just talk some science. looking at maslows hierarchy of needs humans need to satisfy basic needs like food, water, shelter, air, and rest before we can do higher level order of things like thinking abstractly, being cognitively flexible, or even regulating our emotions. All of these things higher order functions are critical to being alert and successful in esports.

To me, its kinda looking at a slowly sinking ship and someone asks "how can i make my boat go faster?". we cant address the speed if the ship is sinking as the ship is limited by its leak not its masts.

silent osprey
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If ur sleeping that long and still not feeling any better you might have sleep apnea out something

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Idk much about it but it seems to be a cause of stuff like that for some people

prisma rock
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been having trouble sleeping for 4 years now

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if i go to bed anywhere between 9 - 12 i keep waking up at 2 am fully awake

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then i sleep at 8 or 9am and wake up at 12pm ..

spark jewel
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hmm sounds like u may want to see a sleep specialist unless u arent being affected by it

restive trellis
finite orchid
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Question what if I slept only 7 hours today, but I feel completely fresh right now when I woke up..

restive trellis
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8hours a day is an mean. Some need 7h, some 9h. It's totally fine as long as it's not too low.

prisma rock
restive trellis
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Then you could see a sleep specialist, but I'm pretty sure that would fix the symptom and not the cause

prisma rock
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he'd probably tell me to take some melatonin or give me pills to sleep or something

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basically fixing the symptoms yeah

wary silo
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do protective eyewear help protect myself from losing eyesight while on the computer?

novel whale
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it can reduce strain

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look at something far if you want to keep your eyes healthy

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staring at your computer all day can cause myopia

scenic peak
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what is the best pivot point for your aim arm? forarm or elbom?

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elbow**

spark jewel
prisma rock
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sounds like you'd be on a lot pf pills lmao

prisma rock
spark jewel
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all jokes aside, i think its awesome to be open and honest with professionals about what you want and dont want. its our responsibility to find the best options for you. most often sleep is about behavior changes and healthy habits, not pills 😄

ripe valve
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It can take time if your body isn't used to it. Especially if there are mobility deficits holding you back

candid ivy
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when i stretch my index finger it feels hurt a lot around in the red circle, how to i fix that, i tried watching youtube but it still hurt, happened a week ago and still hurt till today

peak monolith
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is it normal for my fingers to cramp up

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when gripping my mouse

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ever since i've started using the xm1r

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my thumb and between my fingers

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have been cramping up

prisma rock
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but some of things i'm dealing with aren't actually that easy to solve sadly some of the things i've been through aren't things people can relate to

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at all

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and that's not even an understatement or me looking for pity

prisma rock
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i could be wrong and i have no experience but maybe?

candid ivy
prisma rock
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strain injury causes pain

candid ivy
prisma rock
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resting and not doing actions that will cause uncomfort or pain or seek professional help because i might be wrong

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but usually in Taekwondo when stretching or doing anything if you move incorrectly or do something incorrectly you get an injury

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just rest and not do anything that'll case more strain or pain on said area

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some ice might help

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paracetamol might help

candid ivy
prisma rock
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no worries ! hope you get better soon !

candid ivy
real musk
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Do any of the 1HP guys have knowledge of the hands (preventative exercises for all the areas of the hands for injury)

brave cradle
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am i the only one that consumes copious amounts of caffeine? like 3x 300mg drinks a day

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ive been doing it pretty often for like a year at least 2 a day for almost a year

novel whale
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nope

brave cradle
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prolly bad im guessing

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but i think its an addiction at this point where if i go without it i feel terribly tired and unmotivated

lone vine
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Anyone have advice on how to stop arm and wrist tension when aiming. I have a big problem with my grip slowly getting tighter and tighter on m1 and my mouse as the time goes on, but luckily this seems to be isolated to aim trainers where I don’t get a chance to reset my aim. Might be mental block about resetting aim = less score but I really don’t know. Thanks in advance for any input!

small temple
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im assuming you drink coffee

brave cradle
small temple
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sry, i got trouble understanding the exact details

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each drink has 300mg of caffeine?

small temple
brave cradle
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@small temple yea im just putting it out there cause i feel it could have long-term negative effects and i wanna avoid that and try to cut it down to like 2-3 cups of coffee instead

small temple
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@brave cradle got it! long-term negative effects is still quite a broad term, if that makes sense, and I suggest digging deeper into that. Often times we know what's unhealthy for us, but the long-term benefits don't weight as much as the short-term reward, here the feeling of wakefulness and burst of energy after drinking that delicious caffeinated soda. What could help is a change of mindset, for example: "how can I benefit in long term with choices I make today"

For resetting the tolerance: I've been hearing it takes around a week for most people. First days will most likely include some headaches, so be ready for that. Speaking from personal experience (used to drink 8 cups of coffee a day): I highly recommend taking no caffeine at all during the time you reset. It helps you understand how it feels to be without it completely. Side note: I also noticed my addiction was connected to me drinking while playing so I made sure I had water and tea on my table at all times. I'm not sure this is the case for you, but could be.

obsidian vigil
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Does anyone have some experience regarding smoking weed regularly and aiming? I first thought it fucks up my reaction time but as long as i dont smoke beforehand, its fine

lone vine
# obsidian vigil Does anyone have some experience regarding smoking weed regularly and aiming? I ...

It doesn't necessarily reduce pure reaction time per se, but it has significant effects on bodily kinematics. Your dosage can affect motor functions speed and error rate. Source: https://doi.org/10.2466%2Fpms.1977.45.3.935

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but thats only while under the effects of thc, it doesn't have a "lingereing" effect past the point where your liver clears it out of your system in 60-120 mins

sudden sundial
peak monolith
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I think it was just my hand readjusting or smth

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idk

dreamy rose
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so i use claw grip and just got an xm1r but when i used it i found that it feels most natural in a 1-3-1 grip. the only problem is that my pinky is pretty sore which i’ve never had before. could this be a normal part of switching grips or should i go back to normal grip to avoid injury

sudden sundial
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From trying rn, for me I think the pinky kind of half hangs onto the mouse, not being comfortable or relaxed, or even having much of a grip
Might just be me tho, since I've for the most part always been 1-2-2

dreamy rose
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i’ve always been a 1-2-2 as well this is the only mouse i feel this way with, i perform a lot better with the 1-3-1 but the only issue is it’s been bothering my pinky the last two days

dreamy rose
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20x10 cm

peak monolith
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i lied

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my thumb is aching again

tulip token
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try a different grip, and stretch before playing ig

small shale
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Thoughts on taking creatine before or after aim training? I'm a bit more knowledge on weight training and I feel that a good diet and proper supplementation (like what people do when working out) would be hugely beneficial when trying to hit new high scores

winter abyss
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doesn't matter when you take it afaik

small shale
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Is it something that you take consistently?

silent osprey
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creatine is a saturation based thing

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timing is not relevant

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it also takes like a month to reach saturation

small shale
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Do you take it once per day?

silent osprey
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i take it with my protein shake on workout days

small shale
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Cause i've read you can speed up saturation by increasing the number of times you take per day

silent osprey
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which rn is every second day

small shale
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I see

silent osprey
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well, id assume increased saturation speed is just a product of intake x time

small shale
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I took it 3x throughout the day for 4 days. It is supposed to speed up the saturation process

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yeah exactly

silent osprey
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probably dont wanna take a weeks worth in one day for the sake of ur kidneys

small shale
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xD

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True

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but I've found that 3x a day was good

red salmon
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could my workouts make my aim worse on few days for example?

small shale
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Depends on if you workout before or after aim training

silent osprey
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if you're not new to working out, no

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probably makes you better if anything

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as long as youre eating enough with regards to energy

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maybe if you're doing some stupid bro split and completely smashing ur arms

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but just do a better split at that point

red salmon
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i meant in terms of soreness

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since my arms feel sore and even day after in worse

silent osprey
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r u new to working out?

red salmon
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nope

silent osprey
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wtf

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i dont get doms at all

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unless i introduce something new

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except my quads but im not leg aiming so whatever

turbid fossil
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If you’re sickish/caught-a-cold’ish should you keep cleansing your nose everytime it fills up?

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Also I travel in train so I should constantly blow nose in train? People may look weird think I have the covids.

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Though I know some other train people do it as well though I guess it can be ok

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But still is it good?

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Or should we keep the nosejuice in the nose?

wary iris
thorn matrix
karmic parcel
small shale
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Aim training is still using muscle and if anything you should be taking more care of that muscle since its a small muscle. Small muscles are a lot more injury prone since they havent been developed as much as the large ones

karmic parcel
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once youve been aim training for 1-2 month, your muscles probably arent gonna grow or strengthen anymore anyway

thorn haven
karmic parcel
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ive heard that, but so does staying healthy in general. you dont hear about everyone taking creatine, because it isnt necessary. if someone wants to take it thats fine, im just curious because it feels unnecessary and kind of arbitrary.

thorn haven
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it's just to supplement what people don't get from their diet because it's basically impossible to eat normally and get your 5g of creatine from your diet

small shale
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Yeah exactly. Also your muscles with still def get sore. Especially when trying to to push for better stats. I did forget to mention the thing about mental quickness (thanks @thorn haven ) Also to be a generally healthy person a normal balanced diet is good. But not everyone is trying to push for crazy stats in aim training. You don't see pro or even semi pro athletes just eating a normal balanced diet. They take so many supplements to keep them at the top of their game.

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All that to say is creatine is helpful when trying to improve in aim labs. You defiantly don't need it but it will probably help you reach the kind of skill you want to hit faster

peak monolith
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how do you guys calm down

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when playing games

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whenever i play val, i have this weird feeling in my shoulders and arm

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and it fucks me up

sudden sundial
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You mean as in a type of stress in your arm? Or do you mean like more mental

storm verge
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id love to know how people dont rest their forearms on the desk/pad when they play and only lightly have their wrist touch

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like yall really hold your arm up off the pad/desk slghtly?

silent osprey
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i think ppl who naturally gravitate to that probably have shorter upper arms

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purely anecdotal observation

storm verge
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thats kinda what i was thinking, i got long ass arms so it makes no sense

silent osprey
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but my elbow literally rests at my waistline with neutral shoulders

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so i cant do it with even the thinnest and lowest of desk

storm verge
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at wasitline? @silent osprey

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like elbow is all the way back?

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i have my desk at 27" and thats the lowest i can go to fit my legs comfortably

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if i lower it to 26" i can kinda do it but my legs get crushed kinda lol

tropic talon
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I need some help with how i use my mouse when playing I only really use forearm wrist and fingers my elbow is off my desk but for some reason from my bicep to my shoulder it hurts alot idk why any pointers would help

lilac carbon
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I aim better if my arm is lightly rested on my desk though so I don't do it usually

storm verge
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although its kinda tough with my arm length

lilac carbon
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I'd just get as comfortable as I can

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cause you'll aim better when you're not subconsciously shifting your body

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and somewhat distracted due to the discomfort

storm verge
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so so true i rose my desk recently and now i constantly think about adjusting llol

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and my body. wise words man thanks

lilac carbon
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np the 90 degree thing is like a general baseline but everyone is different so better to adjust to suit your needs

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not to mention your setup can affect what will be comfortable as well

storm verge
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yeah so true

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and im tired of constantly adjusting everything now, ill just find an ideal comfortable spot thats not bad for my body and stick with it

little jackal
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i have a question about consistency, my duo is pretty consistent, sits around im1-2 level and when he gets 2 hours sleep he doesnt throw but he does worse, but when it comes to me i sit around im3 at peak and diamond when bad, but when i get 1-2 hours less of sleep i end up throwing because i cant aim and go double neg? could health affect how bad you are depending on lack of sleep and what not?

novel whale
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short answer: yes

little jackal
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ok

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thx

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this is probs a very stupid question but how long would it take from having very poor health to taking care of myself to get consistent

novel whale
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no idea but the psychological effect of starting that routine will make you feel motivated and day by day you'll get better as long as you're consistent with it

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it's up to you to know

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varies from person to person

little jackal
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yeah

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i just hope it takes months not years

raven zephyr
raven zephyr
# little jackal yeah

kinda like this graph about pushups but it's kinda applicable to health in general, especially starting in poor health

little jackal