health

[graceful pine]

Have you? If you did, you wouldn't rely in it.

[spice berry]

I have but have you?

Carbonated Water, Branched-Chain Amino Acids BCAA (L-Leucine, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine), Caffeine, Green Tea-Extract, Vitamins (Niacin, B6, Folic Acid, Biotin, D, B12), Acidity Regulator (Citric Acid), Flavouring (Pineapple, Grapefruit), Sweetener (Sucralose), Colouring (Betacarotene).

look every single one of these up and tell me how bad they are

as long as its in moderation good quality energy drinks are healthy

[pulsar pelican]

^

[graceful pine]

What energy drink are you drinking?

[spice berry]

nocco or puhdistamo and sometimes white monster

[graceful pine]

What do you consider moderation?

[spice berry]

what you can handle well

[graceful pine]

I can handle six to eight cans of beer a night. Should I?

[spice berry]

handle was a bad word for this

wait a sec I need to finish my chess game

[graceful pine]

[spice berry]

this would be hard to explain fully but what I do with energy drinks and caffeine is that I drink the amount that I can fully recover the next day so that I don't fall into caffeine addiction but still get the benefits of caffeine

this is depends a lot person to person

I also don't drink any caffeine in most weekends

my 2 points are that 1 energy drinks are equally good sources of caffeine as tea and coffee and 2 coffee is healthy as long as you don't abuse it

[violet swan]

aye man as long as you're responsible and you look after your own health i can respect it

@spice berry apologies for coming off a bit rash, you made some good points

when i hear energy drink my mind automatically defaults to red bull or monster, and honestly i think "this is shit, why would i ever put this into my body" you feel me

but i suppose there are "good" energy drinks especially as long as you don't abuse it

[spice berry]

look even at something like redbull there is literally nothing wrong with the ingredients

[graceful pine]

27g sugars.

[spice berry]

wow you are so smart it amazes me

[graceful pine]

Evidently.

[spice berry]

what is the the point of saying that?

nevermind just forget it

[violet swan]

27g of sugar is insane tbh

[spice berry]

are you genuinely stupid or trying to piss me off?

[violet swan]

why would literally anything anyone has to say that's trying to help you out piss you off

lol

plus why are you even shit talking me, what did i even do

[spice berry]

are you serious?

[violet swan]

blank

what did i do

because i'm agreeing with the other guy that "pissed you off" i pissed you off as well?

lmfao

[spice berry]

no

[violet swan]

then what

you have no response apparently

🤷‍♂️

my bad bro

[spice berry]

no I'm just wondering if you are serious

[violet swan]

serious with what

the 27g of sugar comment?

instead of belittling me how about actually proving me wrong

then we can figure shit out

not sure what this approach's outcome is supposed to be

i'm guessing you called me stupid since i didn't bother to search up the shit you listed; its sugar free, you could have said this from the beginning

which is good and all, and like i said, as long as you're doing it in moderation, then that's also a plus

but i was agreeing with X I I I since i wouldn't doubt energy drinks could contain that much sugar in one single can

not like i'd give a shit regardless, don't plan on using energy drinks at any point now

[spice berry]

can you either think before you say something or not say anything at all

[violet swan]

god bless bro thank you for contributing to this discussion

[graceful pine]

If you're not looking to be challenged, perhaps an energy drink forum is what you're looking for, not a health channel.

[spice berry]

how am I even being challenged?

Its quite simple. The fact that a redbull has 27g of sugar is irrelevant because there is a 0 sugar version of it + some people choose to use sugar as a stimulant.

[graceful pine]

That does not exempt the fact that using that much sugar as a stimulant is beneficial, long-term.

Is not, rather.

That's more than half the recommended intake for an adult male.

In liquid form, no less, as an additive. You can obtain a healthy dose of sugar in fruits which have a better digestive process.

[spice berry]

shut the fuck up please

[violet swan]

you're being challenged because for starters there are many other ways you can gain more energy throughout your day naturally instead of using energy drinks, yet i'm not looking to judge you for using them because you're smart enough to use them to your benefit, not to abuse them, its a health channel for a reason bro

and yet there you go again

literally no one is attacking you

or talking shit to you

"omg fruits bad i no like fruit or anything of the sort!!!"

[graceful pine]

What I gather is you have a habit/lifestyle choice you love, look forward to, or otherwise indulge on strongly, and having something you perceive as negative spoken on it is upsetting you.

[violet swan]

is what i'm getting from this

[spice berry]

@graceful pine wrong

[graceful pine]

There is no reason I can think of why you're taking it personal or being hostile.

[spice berry]

I have to do something brb in 40 minutes

[violet swan]

nice out bro

you immediately lost the "challenge" you were looking for

[graceful pine]

I recommend box breathing. It'll help alleviate stress and settle you down in the heat of a moment.

[violet swan]

dude's incredibly negative and hostile for no reason, nice!

gotta love to see it but that's just life

[spice berry]

there is a reason you are just too ignorant to notice it

[violet swan]

oh he's back again!

bro you had something to go and do what happened

[spice berry]

I'm about to abandon my cs match so I can argue with some troglodytes

[graceful pine]

I mean, it is CS, so nothing lost in the process.

[violet swan]

you're tilting from a cs match meanwhile you're seething at the teeth from "discussing" a topic that shouldn't piss you off to begin with

[graceful pine]

You shouldn't have focused mid, bro.

[spice berry]

it isn't about the topic its the way you 2 approach the topic

[graceful pine]

It's all right. Losing means you have more to learn.

[violet swan]

nah bro its about the fact that you simply could have educated us instead of belittling us on the topic since you know so much about right bro

i'm not mad at all, i'm quite enjoying this myself

[spice berry]

keep derailing the argument you are doing a good job 👍

[violet swan]

what argument

the focus is now on you being an ignorant dumbfuck for no reason at all lol

[graceful pine]

No need to clap back, mzry. Let him have his moment.

I've never seen someone this upset over energy drink talk before. For the record, I enjoy them myself, although haven't had one in a few months.

[violet swan]

he's mad at the fact that we "approached" the topic wrong, as if that's a valid reason to be toxic and not expect me or anyone else that could be in this discussion with any common sense to retaliate

[graceful pine]

Having one a week probably isn't detrimental provided your normal drinking and eating is healthy and you are at most briskly active.

[spice berry]

I'm upset about your ignorance, do you want to get your ignorance proved?

[graceful pine]

But one a week does not matter if the rest of your diet consists of candy and the like.

[violet swan]

you're pretty ignorant yourself for talking shit like a child for, again, zero valid reason

throwing a tantrum because someone challenged your way of consuming energy per day

[spice berry]

@graceful pine you are just spitting irrelevant facts to make yourself smart nobody is disagreeing

[graceful pine]

What.

[violet swan]

what

[spice berry]

@violet swan you say 0 reason but have you looked at what you have said?

[winter abyss]

can someone fill me in

[violet swan]

look up in the chat to get context

[spice berry]

^^

[winter abyss]

💤

[graceful pine]

As I recall, I've said Red Bull has 27g of sugar, and that's more than half the recommended value you should have daily according to the American Heart Association.

[spice berry]

what is the point of saying that?

[graceful pine]

Apparently because Red Bull has a zero sugar option, this means energy drinks are perfectly healthy in moderation.

[violet swan]

and he's arguing that since he listed zero-sugar versions of energy drinks he immediately thinks because someone else is trying to give him advice and is lacking knowledge in a topic he can come and be as toxic as he pleases

[spice berry]

Now you are twisting my words, smart move.

[graceful pine]

...

Is your stance not that energy drinks are good in moderation?

[violet swan]

what even is your stance

[graceful pine]

Rage.

[violet swan]

violence even

[graceful pine]

Incoherent rage.

[violet swan]

seething, if you're so inclined

[spice berry]

My point was that the sugar isn't inherently a bad ingredient.

[graceful pine]

Malding, for the eSports aficionado.

[violet swan]

he's currently tilting because of some random cs match he's gaining nothing from and deciding that he can go about taking it out on people lol

[spice berry]

Can we try to agree on one thing?

[violet swan]

besides that, sure lets hear it bro

[spice berry]

everything said after this message has been purely for entertainment, moral superiority and to piss off each other. Can we agree on that one thing?

[graceful pine]

No.

I had no intention of pissing you off.

Nor do I care to have the moral high ground over... energy drinks.

[violet swan]

i also had zero intention of "superiority", that's an idea, a figment of your mental, that you somehow convinced yourself of

[spice berry]

here we go again

[violet swan]

what.

bro

i'm gonna ask you straight up right now

i expect you to give me a good answer now so don't disappoint

where in my string of messages did i ever show a sign of "wanting to be superior" to you

that is not my intention whenever i talk in this chat, i try and help people because it also helps me learn too, to hear what others have to say

that is literally what this entire discord is for

[spice berry]

are you trying to help me right now or are you trying to prove that you are the better person?

if you cared the slightest about me you would have just stopped typing ages ago

I might be an asshole but at least I'm trying to be honest in what I say

[graceful pine]

I've been honest.

[spice berry]

yeah true

[graceful pine]

Hey, there's something we agree on. We found it.

Anyway, gonna bounce. Try Adrenaline Shoc. That's my favorite energy drink.

[violet swan]

???

Energy drinks are straight up trash

[spice berry]

brilliant take

[graceful pine]

And that's what I would've said if I wanted to piss you off, lmao. See ya' later.

[spice berry]

@graceful pine you are a genuine garbage human being, doesn't matter if you are doing it consciously or unconsciously but I hope you will realize is someday

[violet swan]

That’s pepega thinking considering you talked to them for like 10 minutes online ngl

[graceful pine]

Holy shit bro, it's a fucking energy drink, calm down.

[violet swan]

what the FUCK LOL

bro i came back a few minutes ago to see it was resolved

I’ve known you for 10 minutes and I disagree with you therefor you are a trash person

then he just comes back with a fucking punch

Think a bit harder my guy

[violet swan]

He’s just too passionate about energy drinks for us to understand. That’s why he’s a saint and we’re trash humans

[spice berry]

I don't understand why you refuse to accept that my disappointment has nothing to do with energy drinks? Pure stupidity?

[violet swan]

i don't understand why you must constantly be aggressive towards me and others because of your strong stance on energy drinks? pure insecure rage?

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m just making fun of you

literally no one cares that you're drinking energy drinks to cover the fact that you most likely have horrible health habits

[spice berry]

@violet swan man at least you are honest

[violet swan]

10 Red Bull’s a day keeps heart attacks away 🧢

and that isn't to say everyone who drinks anything like energy drinks has shitty health habits, but you in particular

you're a special case indeed

[violet swan]

😎

There is no good argument for energy drinks.

Like literally none. Coffee/strong tea have the same affect but are much healthier for you

@violet swan at the end of the day, like i've said for the nth time, if you're responsible it could probably benefit you

Nah

Energy drinks hold 0 benefits overall

but as i also said, which was the INITIAL POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, was that there are very much better alternatives

Even in moderation

which is why i avoid drinking it

[spice berry]

@violet swan you are objectively and factually incorrect

[violet swan]

Hey man you can keep downing monsters and Red Bull’s into yourself

Idgaf about your health lol

as a matter of fact you should be thankful there are people who do give a fuck about your health indirectly anyway

If you’re getting a standard 8 hours of sleep you shouldn’t need energy drinks anyway

Then again at this point your body is dependent on them cause you drink so many of them

Similar with coffee tbh because many people are caffeine dependent, but coffee is good for you in moderation unlike energy drinks since they have a bunch of chemicals that aren’t good for you

[spice berry]

That just comes down to preference and situation

the thing with tea is that there is so much nuance to it its hard to get started

I don't drink tea so I don't actually know but to me it seems that there is an insane amount of different teas for different things so its hard for a new tea drinkers to get the best one and I assume there is different ways to brew it too

I don't think getting just some random tea bags from a grocery store is the pinnacle of the tea drinking experience whereas you can just get an energy drink and that's that

[pulsar pelican]

Green tea is all you need

[charred ravine]

buy an arizona

it’ll change ur life

@spice berry

but it taste good

my generics are op its ok

i’ll just drink my unhealthy green tea

[spice berry]

If I'm ever going to start drinking tea I'm going to do a tea ritual

otherwise I prefer carbonated drinks and I have never seen carbonated tea

[charred ravine]

do a ritual listening to anime ops

[violet swan]

^

if you aren't listening to the oral cigarettes while flying at maximum speed in an fps game what are you really doing

[violet swan]

bro you are acting like if i have a redbull im going to fucking explode, like hop off. There is nothing wrong with drinking energy drinks, I myself dont like the taste of coffee so i prefer energy drinks

and im literally active everyday and in the average weight class

yeah like no ones gonna douse 3 redbulls in a sitting

[violet swan]

Energy drinks don’t necessarily influence your weight. Weight is different. I have a bunch of friends which eat twice as much as me, are as thin as sticks, yet they have a bunch of vitamin deficiencies

And if you drink enough of them then yes they really can affect you

Is it better to completely avoid energy drinks? Yes. Will it kill you? Nah prob not unless you drink like 5 a day

[spice berry]

Are you talking about caffeine in general or just energy drinks?

[violet swan]

Energy drinks. Mostly. You shouldn’t drink too much caffeine either. Problem is, most energy drinks have more than just caffeine in them

[spice berry]

Is It proven that those other things are unhealthy?

WOW

[violet swan]

Yea absolutely. Look up some of the shit that’s in some of those drinks

[spice berry]

I have tried and I couldnt find anything bad about them

[violet swan]

everything is bad if you take it too much

yes

even kovaaks

2 energy drinks is prob already more caffeine than anyone should have ina. Day

it depends on the energy drink

[spice berry]

I used to drink 800mg of caffeine a day for 3 months straight once and I was fine

[violet swan]

You should have kept it up. Would have been interesting what your health would be at today

how does that mean it's not unhealthy

literally has nothing to do

[spice berry]

xd

[violet swan]

like

wow look i drank a lot of caffeine

although its impossible for me to know by myself, i can confirm that nothing bad happened to my health!!!!!!!

[graceful pine]

[violet swan]

Dies of heart failure at 30

[spice berry]

Lets see

[violet swan]

Healthiest thing is to open a Red Bull then mix it in with a coke and chug

Trust

You can fly with Red Bull though

[charred ravine]

i drink a coffee a day

will i die

[violet swan]

no

[violet swan]

Obviously

Everyone will die

Everything you do is slowly killing you

[violet swan]

Is it weird that coffee makes me feel relaxed instead of energetic?

[tardy rose]

happens to some people

some people have a totally paradoxical reaction to caffeine where it makes them feel exhausted as well

it's also more likely if you drink a lot of coffee

[violet swan]

@graceful pine

[graceful pine]

[desert nova]

a message for everyone

[violet swan]

💯

[glossy flame]

Heya in aim training I've developed pushing my wrist really hard into my pad because quite a bit of tension going on. and needing to anchor my elbow into my arm rest in intense tracking because of the tension in there.

I'd be willing to bet its a posture issue just not sure where to start

[noble blade]

what is bad about caffeine?

[cedar briar]

Too much caffeine may also promote headaches, migraine, and high blood pressure in some individuals

just take in it in moderation

Just don't think you need it all the time

[noble blade]

Ah ok ok ok

Thank you

[cedar briar]

What is the most neutral and healthfully way to keep your keyboard? would this just be personal preference. Or can just have your keyboard in any position?

[analog quail]

i like my keyboard at a slight angle when gaming and completely horizontal when doing general typing

[violet swan]

^

[violet swan]

is it me or i just play better at night?

[cedar briar]

You are most likely relaxed during the nights you play

just remember not to play too late

[violet swan]

yo

do u recommend cofee cookies to woke up?

like

[violet swan]

what is wrong with what i said xd

?

just asking if works as cofee

you shouldn't be waking up with coffee

xd

[violet swan]

coffee*

[violet swan]

why

like

idk how to say that in english

sisisi

te entiendo

jajaj

to turn on and get in 100% mode xd

[violet swan]

i wanted to say that in spanish but the rules say we can only talk spanish in es-chat i think

pero necesitar café para levantarte no es bueno

im not saying that

i can turn on without coffee

then do it

but im asking if works alright

without coffee

im not sure about that

[violet swan]

i can do it, but my question if it works so i will turn on faster and better

[violet swan]

i saw how to turn on exercising and eating brocoli but im trying to find another ways too

gn

[violet swan]

thats the thing

if you rely too much on coffee you p much can't function without it

(after a while ofc)

[violet swan]

gn

[violet swan]

just a bit not a big cup

[gray tartan]

how do i deal with wrist pain

[steady thunder]

Stretching and breaks, there's tons of resources on youtube. If it gets worse and you see inflammation or whatever you can try applying cold / warmth alternating to ease up on it. Source: Have had a fucked up wrist for like 10 years

[violet swan]

yo recently ive started experiencing a pain in my elbow how do i deal with this ? any stretches or something ?

[steady thunder]

Straight arm, pointing forward put your hand up and pull your palm / fingers towards you

You should feel it in your forearm

[violet swan]

that should work ?

[steady thunder]

I mean, it helps

Also hand pronation (Just stretch out and rotate hand) can help a bit

Just repeat it, if it hurts do it slowly and keep it to the point where it only hurts a little bit

[violet swan]

got it

thank you

[steady thunder]

Maybe working out a bit could help ya, I've had fucked up joints my whole life and strength training has helped ease up my pain

[violet swan]

i do workout but now i need to stop cuz of covid

but yeah ill do some strength training

[violet swan]

heard that coffee is a hoe

[turbid fossil]

Soo

My vision in my left eye is good at all distance

The vision in my right eye is only good up close and bad further than a meter away or so

But when I pull the skin to the sides of my right eye, it can see things further away clearly as well

Is there a good way to improve my right eye’s further-away vision without having to pull the skin around it?

[thorny dew]

ask a doctor

i guess

[surreal orbit]

That's a good question for an optometrist, and they'd have to examine you to give you a good answer

I've got pretty bad eyesight, and part of my issue is astigmatism, which basically means the lens of my eye is shaped like a football instead of a circle, so the way my brain picks up images is warped. Super common, lots of people have it, they just have to account for it when they do my glasses/contacts prescriptions.

I wouldn't have known any of those things without getting to see an optometrist, though, so I'd recommend finding one near you

[turbid fossil]

Ow. Does it fix it for you when you pull the skin next to your eyes?

[surreal orbit]

It doesn't hurt at all! It's just a normal anatomical variation of the eye.

[turbid fossil]

Uhmm

Yeah, but like

It means you see worse at certain distances?

[surreal orbit]

And no, but my vision is really bad. I'm not going to see anything clearly without a pretty significant prescription.

[turbid fossil]

Or worse in general?

Ow

[surreal orbit]

I've got two things going on--nearsightedness, and astigmatism.

The astigmatism makes the nearsightedness a little worse

[turbid fossil]

😕

[surreal orbit]

But I'd still be nearsighted whether or not I had an astigmatism

[turbid fossil]

I can find a ton about other eye conditions tho, but not much about pulling skin besides ur eyes boosting vision

Which is why I asked here

[surreal orbit]

Right, but we don't have any eye experts in chat, which is why I'm saying an optometrist is the only person who can give you a good answer or an accurate diagnosis.

[turbid fossil]

makes sense

[violet swan]

weird question

nut clarity new meta?

[violet swan]

you play worse after nutting bro

[violet swan]

noticed that lol, but there is like a 10 min period where i do god like lol

[violet swan]

blueberries everyday improves reaction time

[desert nova]

why is that the case

doesn't nutting relax your body or something

[violet swan]

depends on person to person

[violet swan]

lol

[eternal dock]

have alot of pain above/behind the collar bone lower scapula and mid thorrasic reigion

any ideas what could be causing all 3 of these areas to be hot spots?

[sonic tangle]

I have never had issues with pain while gaming but now today i have had pain in my shoulder on my mouse arm

at the start of the bicep

[cedar briar]

weird question to ask but does everyone here thinks that testosterone is a important part of gaming??

[violet swan]

[violet swan]

You need

[steady thunder]

uhhh I've seen random people on twitter say that testosterone does make you a bit more competitive

So maybe?

At least in the top tiers, like idk

I got 0 source for that though

[sonic tangle]

is there any tips for minor pain on the right side of my wrist where the hand meets the wrist

i think i got it from violently flicking

[violet swan]

@sonic tangle you probably also got it from tensing too

[sonic tangle]

true

i came from qck and playing on hien now and i feel like i overflick when playing relaxed so to compensate for the low stopping power i tense my arm/wrist

very bad habit

[golden bronze]

my wirst actually doesnt feel great now on 4th day of playing kovaaks. it kind of feels like when you rekt your muscles after a workout

should I chill a bit and let the muscle relax

I feel like whenever I do daily aim training, I get worse by the day and when I take a break and come back my aim is better

[violet swan]

depends on how long you do it

[upper folio]

Any tips on combating the afternoon slump?

When I comeback from school or when online class are over, my brain just go doo doo

[violet swan]

take a nap?

xd

you owe that to yourself to get the big refresh

[upper folio]

I feel more tired after a nap for some reason

it's weird

[violet swan]

are you drinking enough Water®

instead of taking a nap then make sure you're staying hydrated right

and walk around for like 30 minutes

see how you feel then

[upper folio]

Oki

Will try to walk tmrw

need to hydrate now though

[thorny dew]

@upper folio the nap shouldnt be over 30min

[elder crypt]

Yeah 20 min naps are really good for getting a refreshed feeling. If you're napping to catch up on poor sleep then make sure to nap for 90 mins so you get a full sleep cycle. If you cut it early or over do it then you'll wake up in the middle of the sleep cycle and you'll feel drowsy

[violet swan]

my elbow started hurting a lot since 2 days is it cuz i plant my elbow when gaming or is it something else ?

[violet swan]

How do you start your morning ? (breakfast, morning routines, etc, ...)

[violet swan]

Do you put pressure on it ?

[violet swan]

idk tbh

i might be doing that

Maybe, if you aren't used to this type of position keep a balance between your natural position and your new position

[violet swan]

It's call overcompensation phenomenon

[golden bronze]

what should I do

[violet swan]

@golden bronze if you're hurt take a short break

[golden bronze]

it seems ok I just cant push much

[violet swan]

Overcompensation phenomenon it's like making muscle growth

Workout + rest = results

[golden bronze]

so am I only supposed to train every 2nd day

[violet swan]

That's depend how do you feel

If you feel tired, you don't want to train, take a short break, if you feel right go for train.
If you feel pain, take a long break, it's means that your not well.

[golden bronze]

I def dont feel like when it is normal, but I have only really done things for like 3 days

[violet swan]

And to avoid inflammation, eat vegetables they will to help to render you PH neutral

Are you beginner in aim training ?

[golden bronze]

wouldnt say complete noob, I have around 50 hours from before

[violet swan]

How much time do you spend in your aim session ?

[golden bronze]

1-2 hours on avg

[violet swan]

1 hour per day is enough, try to keep it and don't over train.
Like I said take breaks and you'll see results.
You can have stiffness that a normal process of build muscle.

[golden bronze]

alright thank you very much man appreciate the help

[violet swan]

You're welcome ;)

[noble swift]

[violet swan]

every single time i play kovaaks for more than 30 min my arm joint hurts so bad

[tropic talon]

is resting my arm on my desk after playing alot harmful ?

[thorn matrix]

@tropic talon As long as the edge of your desk isn't cutting into your forearm I'd say it's ok. To keep that from happening just make sure your arm rests are high enough so they are level with your desk.

@violet swan You likely have decreased endurance of the muscles of your forearm. Depending on where the pain is will change what exercises you should do to build up those muscles! https://www.1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/everything-you-need-for-hand-wrist-pain-in-fortnite-health-expert-guide/

[violet swan]

i should

ty

[graceful pine]

I think my main problem was being to passive with how much I stretched. I started to implement them morning, before work, after dinner. 3x30s, whereas I was only doing a rep of each on wake and before bed. I was worried about stretching too much but it seems I needed to be more aggressive.

[flat citrus]

is it just me or the day after a work out when my body starts to ache, u start to play badly

[cedar briar]

Would small naps help before a big tournament or would that make u sluggish when you play?

[charred ravine]

depends how much before

[glossy dove]

Hi, could someone with extensive knowledge about supplementation and or pharmacology dm me

[steady thunder]

Thats very dependent from person to person

For me, I like getting up early and getting some games in, then I take a nap around 2h before the match and warm up / get ready for around an hoye

[cedar briar]

Would you get more energy out of the entire length of the match?

[charred ravine]

i would say sleep until like an hour before if you need it yeah

you need time to warm up

i would do isolated mechanics warmup and then actual practice ingame

[rough wigeon]

wtf

I'm getting a wird pain sensation on the backside of my hand

Never had this before

as if it's stinging

[thorny dew]

wtf is that

[rough wigeon]

no fucking idea

I'm kinda terrified tbh

but I won't play more today

[thorny dew]

ask some 1HP guy or go to a doctor real fast I guess

[rough wigeon]

been on pc all day, although only kovaak for 20 min

[thorny dew]

I think doctor is a good idea

[rough wigeon]

it's only slight

when I'm using it now

nothing crazy, just like, damn wtf

[thorny dew]

slight? That looks awful

[rough wigeon]

wdym?

[thorny dew]

in the pic

[rough wigeon]

it's not possible to see

ugh

and also across the left side of my forearm

bruh wtf

[thorny dew]

its not possible to see? What is that line on your hand than?

[rough wigeon]

what line?

shadow line?

[thorny dew]

that

[rough wigeon]

that's just shadow hihi

[thorny dew]

really?

Lol my eyes are tricking me

ok than its better then I thought 😄

Still, if it hurts go to a doctor

[eternal dock]

That's just from tensing too much

[rough wigeon]

could very well be

tensing has always been an issue for me

[thorny dew]

I dont even see whats abnormal in the picture, am i blind?

[rough wigeon]

I really tried to not tense today

like really not

nothing

first pic was just to explain where I was feeling the stinging

[thorny dew]

oh okay I see

[rough wigeon]

man, why does this have to happen:(

I did stretching for a long time, and then I just slacked for a fairly long period where I also played less kovaak

[thorny dew]

please be careful, hand and wrist problems are fucking aweful

[rough wigeon]

yea

[thorny dew]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JKKSBWXHM-V5C9gMhVFWQgsHwVLcVMgb/view

[rough wigeon]

I'mma quit kovaak for today

shit feels weird

[thorny dew]

Do stretching

now

😄

[rough wigeon]

that's the one I did usually

but haven't done it in probably 3 months

since I played other stuff and just lacked

I'll do the stretches now tho

did stretches yesterday, after completing my session, but now this

[eternal dock]

Could've over stretched

I wouldn't worry about it unless you're in pain for over a week and it's bad

[rough wigeon]

yeah

I'll just start doing the stretching more often

before as well as after

[thorny dew]

just do the mobility before, stretching before is bad @rough wigeon

he says that somewhere in the doc

[rough wigeon]

yea

It's still stretching, but dynamic. I guess mobility is stretching.. you get what I'm saying:)

did the whole after stretch

[violet swan]

everyone should get ergo chair

so fucking good

[rough wigeon]

How much of a difference is it? Chilling in a shitty office chair atm

[violet swan]

My back feels so much better

It forces you to sit up straight while still being comfortable

I don’t nerd neck anymore

And I have proper posture

[rough wigeon]

I'd imagine it makes a significant difference in how you perform over longer time

I experience a lot of back stiffness, as well as bad posture every now and then

@violet swan I was thinking about buying one a couple months ago, but I decided not to, because I wasn't sure on what to buy because of the range of options as well as prices. Could you link me the one you got?

[violet swan]

Okay yea

https://www.staples.com/staples-dexley-mesh-task-chair-black-56946/product_24398921?cid=BNR:24398921&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=24398921&KPID=24398921&cid=PS:GS:RE:RP:NB:FALSE:TXT:SV:Open:1679103753:60732599250:&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxPzhisem7wIVKk1yCh3RlgBBEAQYBCABEgL0MvD_BwE

It was like 189 in store

[violet swan]

If you’re addicted to something what’s the best way to stop doing it completely

It’s hard with video games. I wanna quit them permanently. I don’t like them, they fuck with my mental health, and they destroy my social life as well as my school life. But no matter how hard I try, I keep coming back to it.

?

if you don't like them just quit

there's no path to take

unless you're actually bordering on addiction and you can't see yourself quitting or something like that

[violet swan]

ease off

or have another addiction

alot of people choose exercise to get away from addictions

[ripe valve]

Hey Rypics, stinging pain can be really alarming so I'm glad you reached out for some help. Without more information I can't give you specific advice but from what you're describing I would want you to double check your ergonomics when holding a mouse as per this guide here: https://www.1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/esports-health-it-starts-with-ergonomics-and-posture/

Basically make sure your middle finger lines up with your elbow from the side and top when you are in your neutral/home position holding the mouse.

Like other people have mentioned some stretching is a great idea!

The first half of this video is a great place to start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY

Then to keep this from coming back you likely need some strengthening/conditioning to build up your capacity. That would be the second half of the video.

If you want more personalized help we do injury coaching on Patreon but everything I just linked you is a great place to start!

[rough wigeon]

Thank you so much:) I'll take a look

[ripe valve]

You are very welcome!

[rough wigeon]

First thing to note is that you have to fill that free time with something else. Also you'll have to negotiate with yourself without being a tyrant. It's almost impossible to force yourself to do things over time that you don't like to do, so negotiating is essential. Give yourself a reward after doing something "good", not something that makes you happy. And rather than stopping playing games, you'll have to cut it down. Stopping an addiction instantly will make the body crave it, so depending on how severe it is you'll have to fill that time with something else.

[plucky otter]

@thorn matrix I injured my wrist and don’t really know why - it just started hurting whenever I rotate the wrist (ie rotating around the same axis my arm is on). It’s also slightly tighter in my wrist about a hand’s width down from the intersection of wrist and hand.

It all came on pretty suddenly during the afternoon a few days ago, 24 hrs distant from any aim training, and I suspect I maybe landed a bit too heavily on it at some point. Have put on a splint and it’s been recovering nicely enough over four days .

How long should I wait before training again? I had a quick go tonight and swiftly regretted it: my performance was bad and I now have increased tightness. Back to the splint, I guess.

[thorn matrix]

@plucky otter You landed on it? Wym

[flat citrus]

How long will it take for my body to get used to me working night shift. Day 2 rn and still feeling a lil sleepy

[thorny dew]

body clock uses light to tell if its day or night, so you probably will always have slight problems, I have no idea tho, maybe some 1hp person can answer

[flat citrus]

I hope its not a big of an issue. Its my 2nd day out of the 28days i have to work

[thorny dew]

I honestly dont know, ae we allowed to ping the 1hp guys? @flat citrus

[flat citrus]

Im not sure. I think ill just wait for their response instead of pinging. Dont want it seeming i want a response immediately

[river path]

Honestly it takes a couple weeks for me to adjust. Every 3 months I switch to nights or days.

[flat citrus]

Was it tiring for your body the first week?

[river path]

For the first few days yeah

I have blackout curtains in the bedroom though

That helped with being able to fall asleep. But I still had issues with quality of sleep and how much for a week or so

[flat citrus]

Ah i see

Prob ending this job on 16apr so hopefuly i can push through

Thank you for the reassurance

[river path]

You're welcome

[hoary summit]

my wrist gets tired when doing routines. Usually my wrist doesn't currently hurt I was just wondering if there is any way to not have wrist tiredness.

[plucky otter]

Like maybe put my hand out to stop a fall and landed on it, or something like that. I don’t remember this happening but it’s entirely possible.

[plucky otter]

They’ve previously encouraged people to ping them so they know to check the chat. If that’s changed (and it may have) it’s news to me.

[thorny dew]

oh okay ty @plucky otter

[rough wigeon]

ordered one today:D

[violet swan]

Nice one

Ur backs gonna rank you

[violet swan]

Thank

[rough wigeon]

You

[violet swan]

[thorn matrix]

You guys can ping us!

I'm not sure if our sleep psych is in here though

@plucky otter seems like tendon pain more likely

@plucky otter I'd gradually increase your play time

So start training at 15 min

[thorny dew]

I think it would be good to pin that, could you do that?

[thorn matrix]

And next day if you don't have any pain up the time by 15 min

@ladan don't think I have pin perms

[thorny dew]

@arctic moat can you pin this?

[arctic moat]

gave u pin perms

[thorny dew]

tyy sini

[plucky otter]

Thanks mate. I twinged it and am back to it hurting again now, so will take a few days off and then ease back again.

Slightly frustrating but what are you going to do?

[dusty frigate]

Y'all ever feel tricep tendons sore?

Not tennis elbow! Instead like on my triceps near elbow - happens more when grinding static clicks

It goes away for me with rest ice... But sometimes comes back

My question is it's indicative of bad form... Or more of a natural expected effect of grinding aim training more (like how you feel more sore as a beginner benching for the first time in awhile vs. when you are in the rhythm of working out and doing it for the 50th time)

[worthy cloud]

I've personally never had elbow pains from aiming

Or triceps tendon

It may be a symptom of poor arm positioning

[dusty frigate]

Imma see if it persists in like a week or so, I haven't worked out during pandemic so I know my arms are soft lol

Wouldn't surprise me if I'm just getting sore over spamming clicks in routines o.o

Cause regarding setup, I've tried a bunch of things hoping what I got is good so far (5'10", have a height adjust desk so I try to make desk height so my elbow is like 90 degree [27in], I kinda sit at like a 30-45 degree angle where more of my right arm/forearm can be put on the desk, I play low sens 40-50cm)

[deft radish]

My wrist cracks when turning it, or using my mouse.
is this normal?

[violet swan]

@dusty frigate it's maybe a Tendinitis

@deft radish if it's reccuring and it's painful that's not normal

[violet swan]

My wrist always hurts even if im not playing should i go see a doctor also my thumb spazzes sometimes

[violet swan]

im no expert on health but if ur thumb is spazzing in my opinion i would definetly go

[junior walrus]

anyone have a lifting guide to stregthen traps that are engaged by xy aiming?

[deft radish]

@violet swan doesnt hurt just annoying happens every time I move my wrist to the right

[violet swan]

Is it normal for the side and bottom but mainly side of my foot to hurt really badly with ski boots on. I can barely feel it, it’s kinda puffed up, also numb

[violet swan]

when i used to ski my feet would hurt badly normally just means you need new size of boot..

or mabye not wearing right socks or smthn

I’m wearing ski socks

My feet are wide

So idk

[tropic talon]

Would stretches help with my arm being stiff after playing for along time?

[worthy cloud]

probably

but also taking breaks

[silent osprey]

stretching is great

[stuck rune]

I have pain around the supraspinatus/rhomboids area

Only the left side as someone right handed

I'm trying as best I can to have good posture but I think it's too late

Can't train for more than 10 minutes

[stuck rune]

So I have to really give effort on relaxing my aim

It helps

But my aim isn't the most precise

I think I have to relearn how to aim

[violet swan]

anyone have a recommendation for a good standing desk?

[violet swan]

do you want it convertable into a sitting one?

[violet chasm]

for the kastor wrist stretches, should I do them with both arms'

[odd quiver]

I set my kovaak's background and UI to be completely blueless. Are there any other steps I can take to make aiming sessions easier on my eyes?

[ripe temple]

does redbull help you improve cuz it says ure more focused

[violet swan]

just drink coffee

[violet swan]

Does gamer fuel (gfuel) help me game better!? Thanks guys gamer out!

[violet swan]

it depends

[violet swan]

lmao

Ok thanks gamer!

[graceful pine]

guys what miracle substances can I take to become aim god

[winter abyss]

iodine

[silent osprey]

good nutrition

[devout sky]

is there an exercise or stretching for spasm? I can't do Floating Heads Timing 400% because my wrist suddenly shake or move

[violet swan]

Gfuel

[graceful pine]

best i can do is three cups of coffee in the morning, two red bulls at lunch, a five hour energy in the afternoon.

[violet swan]

Do you want to die

Wtf

I have a good one

Try three shots of espresso in cold brew

Then three teas

And gfuel

[shadow axle]

As a person who has sleeped on their stomach their whole life is it worth it to “learn” how to sleep on my back?

[plucky compass]

should i be laying my back on my chair or no

[ripe temple]

sit straight and lean back

@plucky compass

[worthy oxide]

Just wondering is it normal for your pinky to hurt while aim training, because I randomly get pinky pain

[violet swan]

Lmfao you gonna have a heart attack before you reach 30

Unless you already are 30

[graceful pine]

I am immortal, child.

As you know, red bull indeed renders unto the drinker, wings.

I exist in a realm from which you couldn't possibly understand.

[violet swan]

Oh ok..

Fair enough

[plucky compass]

my chair tilts back tho

[ripe temple]

if youre not totally 90° its fine as long as youre straight enough

[violet swan]

ok so i have had this problem for a while and its one of the main things that puts me off aim kovaaks

whenever i do my cod routine

on it

my hand aches

like i get pains in my hand and im not sure what im doing thats making this happen.. it never happens when i play games normally only on kovaaks

its in my pinky finger and whatever the other one next to it is called, as far as i know im not gripping my mouse different than when i play call of duty (claw grip) and not applying and extra pressure or anything

[graceful pine]

Do the last two stretches shown in Kastor's routine pinned here, 3x30s lumbrical stretch, and 5x5s using your opposite fingers to stretch aside each finger ex. index and middle, middle and ring, etc.

They help a lot with hand pain.

Tight muscles from use/overuse can suck.

[violet swan]

Thank you

So much

Now hopefully I can actually aim train

And get more than 5 hours on kovaaks -_-

[graceful pine]

Take steady breaks. I'd say do one stretch after every scenario. Then when you're done, do them all to relax your tendons.

[runic wadi]

Anyone know why looking up in any first person game at all hurts my neck irl. I dont move my head at all.

[fluid jackal]

monitor height

exercise

stretch

[violet swan]

It's not even like its ages though

It's literally as soon as I start playing

I can barley complete the playlist once without being in alot of pain

[graceful pine]

Depends on how overused you are. I stopped doing wrist workouts and focused on stretching and downtime. At least in my case, it helped a lot, but I definitely have a ways to go. If you want the brute force method, find something to binge and take a break from gaming, making stretching your hobby. I can't speak beyond personal circumstance and experience though, and what you might be feeling may not sync.

[violet swan]

any way to make my hand less sore

Ok today I will starts with stretching and then after I finish each scenario

[covert sphinx]

i always do stretches before i play

and stretches in the morning

in the morning i stretch pretty much everything including my hands

[ripe sonnet]

I have really shaky aim and hands, and even though i play on 47.23 cm/360 i still feel it in game and its effecting my tracking really badly and I have no clue what the cause is

I switched to an artisan hien xl soft a month ago but i should be used to it by now so i doubt thats the cause

[covert sphinx]

do you drink a lot of caffeine or do have heart or underlying health issues?

low blood sugar?

do you smoke?

[ripe sonnet]

no caffeine no low blood sugar no i dont smoke

ive had shaky hands but its never effected my aim

[covert sphinx]

hm

[ripe sonnet]

i think it might be my switch to the hien, but its been a month so i sbhould be used to it by now right?>

[covert sphinx]

yeah probably

[graceful pine]

@violet swan Forgot to add that I recommend doing Kastor's thumb stretches, too. Imo those are extremely important as your thumb is a large part of hand function. They've helped the most for me but I do a lot of controller play ex. dmc/nioh, so you may be different.

[tardy bronze]

is 120mg caffeine a lot?

[graceful pine]

I had an Aftershock (300mg caff) on am empty stomach this morning and I'm not doing that again lmao.

[violet swan]

ok so

before i do my kovaaks routine

i need to do

kastors thumb stretches and that's it?

[graceful pine]

Do them as you need. Don't slack on them is all I'm saying. Listen to your muscles and stretch when apt.

[violet swan]

bro

lmfaoo

i did the neck streching thing

at the end

legit sounded like gunshot

well... thats a bit of a exaggeration but clicked loud af

[violet swan]

i did the stretches and im still experiencing alot of pain in my far right two fingers

[graceful pine]

It will take a few days, bro. Be consistent in the morning, lunch, before bed, with smaller shorter stretches at random.

A week ago I couldn't play for long or at all without tense muscles but I took a break and kept to it. My advice still is to avoid working them out until you feel completely normal and can play for a duration without a burning sensation.

Tbh I'd stay away from Kovaaks if you're having that much trouble. Aim training is moderate to intense depending on the scenario and speed. I'd either stick to whatever game you're playing or do something more casual on a gamepad.

[ripe valve]

Make sure the top of your monitor is at eye level. You could be subconsciously moving your head to let your eyes get to the position you want

[ripe valve]

There are two things at work here. How much capacity your hands have to do work and how much work you are asking of them. If you can build up your capacity then you can do more work. While this is happening we generally look at ergonomics and scheduling to reduce pain in the meantime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY is how you can build up some capacity.
For ergonomics your middle finger should make a straight line to your elbow with the length of the mouse trying to parallel that line
Scheduling wise we recommend at least a 5 minute break every 30 minutes. Just stand up, do some stretches then you can dive back in

Holding long stretches are better for after kovaaks and a more dynamic warm-up like this is a great way to prepare your hands before kovaaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsyUH4OIk2w&t=3s

I am not sure in your picture if you are palm up or down which makes some of the recommendations different. I would start with making sure your mouse and your middle finger can make a straight line to your elbow from the top and the side when you are in neutral. Then, build up some more capacity with a routine like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY

[ripe valve]

Matt made a great video on that here! Check out the description for timestamps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81MgKyIkUA

You are very welcome! Without some pictures it is hard for me to give you specific advice. Matt wrote an article on mouse ergonomics here if you want to learn more: https://www.1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/mouse-ergonomics-for-gaming-carpal-tunnel-mouse-weight-height-shape-more/

[ripe valve]

You are welcome, I hope it helps

[snow girder]

what are the causes of a tight wrist during a session? every 30 mins during a session my mouse wrist tightens up and it feels better if i just shake/wiggle my hand. guessing i just need to do some dynamic stretches before a session but that tight/locked wrist feeling is really weird

[ripe valve]

Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/CaitMcGeePT/status/1371802826477871106

1HP | Cait (@CaitMcGeePT)

@denisCSGO @HPforGamers @JkchungDc Last but not least, I'd recommend some of our videos on managing common pain patterns in gaming! They're all available here: https://t.co/3h2RsHSHEi

Twitter · Mar 16, 2021, 12:37 PM

[tropic talon]

anyone know what couldbe causing my middle finger pain?

[ruby bobcat]

Whenever I move my wrist there is a snapping sound. Does anyone know the issue? I don’t any pain nor does feel numb.

[tardy rose]

Tendons sliding over bone irregularities can do that

They very briefly get stuck and snap back into place making noise

If that's the case it's not typically harmful, just noisy

[heavy kestrel]

Hey uhm, I am trying to get used to a new mouse grip (claw) and I am experiencing some pain in my ring finger and pinky since I am used to flat fingering them and now I am curling both

The pain in my ring finger is towards the top and its because of the pressure of my nail into the skin. On the other hand, the pain in my pinky is due to the curle I make

[crimson cove]

Raise ur chair

[rough otter]

Pike pushups / handstands perhaps

[violet swan]

does masturbating make u play worse?

[violet swan]

are you gonna no nut if I say yes?

already done 😦

ahahah

but im serious

no it doesn't

[orchid wharf]

it does make you more tired

[violet swan]

can anyone recommend any gaming chairs which are comfortable and good for posture

[glossy frost]

Don't get gaming chairs, get ergonomic chairs

[vale iron]

i have slowly increasing pain in the base of my right thumb is this something caused by mouse usage or is it something else most likely ?

[hollow tendon]

Rsi

If you stretch and feel numbness

Thumb pain is most likely rsi

[vale iron]

it might also bc i was doing a lot of pushups recently

and if i strech it it just hurts more

[violet swan]

@vale iron it's normal

When you doing your workout you destroy you muscle to build it more, when you stretch it, you increase micro-injuries

So it's better to avoid stretch immediately after your workout

External rotator cuff

Lateral raise, rear delt, shoulder press

[tropic talon]

My middle and index finger hurt really badly i cant even bend them should i just take a break from playing today?

[violet swan]

yes

[hollow tendon]

What are you even talking about

Your fingers wont hurt from working out

are you fucking dumb

He's not building muscles

its RSI

Its pretty common for people who have lesser RSI

to have their fingers hurt

when they lift or do anything with weights

because the finger is extending

its not "normal" not good

[violet swan]

@hollow tendon my bad sry

didn't read well

[violet swan]

don't be agressive

[hollow tendon]

Youre telling someone rsi is okay and normal

[violet swan]

i didn't see his message above

i made a mistake

[sharp panther]

Why so aggressive tho? It was a mistake

[glossy quiver]

Chill dude

[vale iron]

i think i know what its from
the spot that hurts is exactly where my hand rests on the table when im using my mouse (i have big hand)

[violet swan]

where exactly ?

[violet swan]

@vale iron

[vale iron]

at this area

im using the razer viper and it might be too small for me but idk

[violet swan]

that's the metacarpal joint who are connected to carpal bones, here :/

[vale iron]

ye ik

[violet swan]

I hope you'll don't have thumb arthritis

[vale iron]

its only really been an issue since i started working out more at home (pushups and pullups mostly)

i think i should try to use a mouse that fits my hand better tbh
what do u think ?

[violet swan]

maybe, if the pain has increase since you do push up, it can be the pressure on the hand

but yeah i think a good mouse who fit you well may be reduce the pain

do you feel pain when you move you thumb like that ?

[vale iron]

if i just move it its fine

its only painful if i press on the spot

[violet swan]

ok

[vale iron]

should i sent a pic of my hand on my mouse bc i really dont know if my grip is bad for me or not

[violet swan]

yeap 🙂

[violet swan]

can you put you hand flat on the table ?

[vale iron]

wdym

Like this ?

[violet swan]

yep I fact i dont know if it's the median nerve who is compressed or if your alignement Carpometacarpal joints isn't good

ok i see

do you have any tingling in your fingers ?

[vale iron]

nope

[violet swan]

if you don't have any pain when you move your thumb that's not the joint but maybe more the median nerve, that's my point of view

[vale iron]

i got some experience in chiropractic and id also guess its the nerve
my question is: is the mouse too small for my hand ?

[violet swan]

maybe bc you thumb should be align with you radius

[vale iron]

what does that mean ?

[violet swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKoyWwenQY look his thumb

it's your 1er metacarpal bone who is not align

[vale iron]

id guess thats bad, is it ?

[violet swan]

yeap

but you can fix it

in fact bad position can compress nerve so try to treat you nerve then fixing your position

[vale iron]

i think getting a better position will treat my nerve

[violet swan]

maybe but if you feel pain in after several days and you can't fix it go to see a physiotherapist

[vale iron]

yeah

how would i fix my grip

[violet swan]

changing you mouse or changing the back of the mouse if you have different top back grip

or you can change grip too but not really recommanded, it's depend on you

you said that : when you stretch you thumb you have pain so for me it's really the nerve

[vale iron]

i remember the g402 feeling really well so i might give it a shot

[violet swan]

maybe the push-ups made it

yea try

i really recommand you to see a physiotherapist he could see the cause and the exact location where the nerve is block

[vale iron]

thx for the help

[violet swan]

you're welcome

[clever onyx]

How to improve focus at night?
I didn't play any thing at day time but when night time i can't focus any targets

[thorny dew]

@clever onyx go to bed and dont play at night

[haughty forge]

My biggest difficulty is my hands, for some reason no matter if i just wake up or if i'm up for a while I get on my pc and try and hold my mouse and my right hand feels like i have no grip strength. Its happened for a while and idk what I could do to fix it. I feel like when i can barely grab my mouse if i dont sit and warm up for a while then its comfortable. Is there anything I could use to loosen my hand up or get more grip strength?

[graceful pine]

I had this problem and it makes aiming or high-precision inputs a nightmare. 1HP has solid exercises to build strength back up.

[opaque wind]

Are there any stretches that can be done quickly for my right foreman and right hand in general to keep it loose

[stuck radish]

Any recommendations on a good chair thats adjustable and comfortable? I’ve been using this one for about a year now and while its been far better then the gaming chair I used to have it still isn’t as comfortable as I’d like it to be.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00450P182?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

I’ve been doing research but I honestly trust people here more since a lot of the reviews I’ve been watching seem to just shill on whatever products they review

[pastel mango]

Yo guys why cant i get horny anymore this is so weird

Im 17

[violet swan]

maybe you grew out of it

[pastel mango]

Did my balls stop working or somehing

[tawdry ice]

could be depressed

[pastel mango]

I mean i can still get hard if i want to its not like erectile disfuction

[tawdry ice]

or a lot of other things

[pastel mango]

Im not though ive never been this happy in a long itme

[violet swan]

then that just means you found something else better to do than being horny and wanking alone in your room

😎 👍

gj

not a lot of kvk mains can say the same

[covert sphinx]

^

if youre happy who tf cares

[violet swan]

@robust parrot do you feel any pain when you stretch your forearm ? Or any electrical choc ?

The vien is responsible of blood supply

Nerve control the contraction of your muscle and send information

For me it's your nerve who's compressed that usual

Yeah i think it's that,consult a Physiotherapist he can help you

Changing you sitting position can help you too

Yep

Also repetitives movements can provoque that

Yeap it's maybe the reason you have this

you're welcome

it's a pleasure to help

[vast fractal]

My work has paid a yoga instructor for us at home office via teams. It's not for me tho, however the instructor is 😏 So I stick through it.

I've planned a really long hill intervall today, I'll do max 4 rounds, but it's pretty long, should be good training for me to beat my record up a nearby mountain though.

[potent gazelle]

does anyone have any idea what might be causing this sudden tremor i have in my right hand

i started getting it like 2 days ago

my aim became really shaky

[violet swan]

How long did you start aim training ?

[potent gazelle]

like how long i've been training for?

[violet swan]

Yes

[potent gazelle]

like an year

a bit more now

[violet swan]

Okay

Do you have any pain ?

[potent gazelle]

no

i just feel some pressure on my arm

but like the lower part of the arm

i can't really explain it well sorry

[violet swan]

Maybe it's because you're tense

You mean your elbow ?

[potent gazelle]

yes, pretty much below the elbow

it feels like some tiny tiny pressure is on my arm

but it's really annoying since i am usually calm and relaxed when i aim

[violet swan]

Try to reduce the pressure on the elbow when you play or train

I think it's normal

Anterior and posterior muscles work together, when you put pressure on the elbow you block the normal functions of your muscles

Lot of muscles are attached to the elbow

[potent gazelle]

i just thought of something

i started doing pushups and exercising more in general a few days ago

whenever i do them i feel pressure or strain on the same part of the arm

could it be because of this

[violet swan]

Maybe

Proper way to do pushups

Push up is good, but if you spend lot of time in sitting position, it's better to train back muscles

[potent gazelle]

what would be exercises for that?

also my pushups are good according to the picture

[vast fractal]

I did this mistake too

70-90 degree

Lots of joint pain in my wrist

[violet swan]

If you have elastic band you can do pull exercices

Pull ups, rear delt, rowing, etc

[violet swan]

It's better to avoid 90 degree bc you have the more pressure at this angle

[vast fractal]

Ye I know

That's why I got wrist pain

[violet swan]

Ok

[vast fractal]

I actually use handles now, it's easier for me to keep my form that way.

[violet swan]

Yes it's good

[vast fractal]

People say handles make it harder, but for me that's easier.

[violet swan]

They said it's harder because that increase the range of motion, but it's better for wrists bc it's a natural position

And it's decreased the pressure on the carpal area

[vast fractal]

Sure does

I like it 😊

[violet swan]

👍 😊 😉

[ripe knoll]

Can any health peeps link a decent chair? The back on my chair literally fell off, so im playing on a stool

[flat citrus]

What do you guys do usually when ur sleep schedule is screwed(sleeping at 4-5 instead of 11-1)

[winter abyss]

all nighter/sleep 3 hours

then suffer for a few hours and go to bed at a reasonable time

[flat citrus]

Sheesh sounds tough will try it tho. Rn its 3am here

[winter abyss]

doing it rn

went to bed at 4am-ish

woke up 7am

[flat citrus]

Holy

Dont u feel like shit

[winter abyss]

very

it's fine tho

[flat citrus]

All to fix the sleep schedule

Ill try that. Thann you

[raven lake]

will my aim hurt if i change the height of my chair? cos i want to my legs to be at 90 degrees and my monitor at my head level (its not adjustable), by doing this tho my my arm is not at 90 degrees to my desk

[violet swan]

I definitely would think that having arms 90% to your desk the most important think

[viral pine]

can any one tell me the right way to sit and my arm position?

[covert sphinx]

Remember guys, don't forget to stretch :)

[violet swan]

90° legs, 90° arms, back straight, eyes look in horizontal, the middle of you foreame on the desk, limit the risk of injury on the elbow

And keeping a alignment with your wrist and elbow is really important

[empty zephyr]

can you make benchmarks for gym?

[fallen glen]

@flat citrus @flat citrus I do not recommend this ^^ No disrespect to anyone, and if it works for you I’m happy to hear that 🙂 it may work for some people, still, I would not advise doing this for two broad reasons. 1. Effectiveness. 2. Health. A lot of times when people attempt to make a big change in their sleep habits by staying up for 24+ (usually closer to 36+) hours, they try to make such a drastic change immediately, and they find that they fail to maintain this new schedule. They often revert to their “screwed” sleep schedule, as you put it.

Now, more importantly - health and wellness. Sleep is extremely important for us. While everyone knows this, oftentimes (and maybe more importantly) I think that people don’t always realize how dangerous sleep deprivation is for our health. I will elaborate on this. Before I get too far into that though - I am not saying that pulling one single all-nighter is going to guarantee the development of a serious health issue (although there are multiple studies illustrating some of the immediate negative effects sleep deprivation does have on our health).

Your body does so many things while it is sleeping, and I commend you for deciding to improve your sleep habits. It is not easy, it will be worth it long term though. Irregular or insufficient sleep increases the risk of developing diabetes (because our bodies primarily filter glucose during sleep), kidney failure, acute coronary syndrome, strokes, Alzheimer’s, and so many other health issues. Even one night of zero sleep reduces the functioning of your immune system (not a great thing ever really, especially during a pandemic).

Even one night of insufficient sleep has been clinically documented to increase serum concentrations of both S-100B and NSE by around 20% compared to “normal” (non sleep-deprived ) concentrations. This in turn can compromise neuroprotective function. These changes (even after one night of sleep loss) lead to the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) like hydrogen peroxide in your brain. It has been demonstrated that ROS can damage neurons, and even cause cell death.

Now that we have that out of the way^^ the fun part: how to properly alter your sleep schedule.

[flat citrus]

@fallen glen how do u recommend on me fixing this bad habit

because i used to work on a night shift 11pm-7am and just quit after a few days because of how tiring it was(i had migraines and etc)

been trynna fix it for bout a week now

[safe scroll]

I have this same habit but have been doing it for a lot longer than a week.

[hollow tendon]

Me who sleeps 3 hours daily every second week

[violet swan]

@flat citrus did u try naps ?

[flat citrus]

yea just took one about 2 hrs ago

[fallen glen]

That’s rough. I currently do shift work as well and have for years. To answer your question, there are a few good steps to take. First, decide what your desired bedtime is going to be (for example 10 PM). Unless there is some emergency or unforeseen circumstance (not watching Netflix or grinding out the smooth bot😉), stick to it. Be in bed at that time. Start getting ready for bed by doing things to wind down. Personally, I make a mug of chamomile tea and drink it while packing up my belongings I’ll need for the next day, and setting out my clothes etc. Then, I brush my teeth and read under softlight for about 30 minutes. At that point, I’m fairly drowsy and quickly fall asleep.

In the morning, when your alarm goes off, get up. Do not use snooze and do not set alarms before the time you actually intend to get up. If this is difficult for you, put the alarm across the room from you so that you need to physically get out of bed to turn it off. If needed, do this with two different alarms in different locations. Once you’re up, you’re up. Consistency is very important.

Some things that can help you get ready for sleep are minimizing screen time and avoiding other bright lights (I have my phone activate a blue light filter at 8:30 PM), exercising during the day, and avoiding caffeine and stimulants (I am guilty of drinking a cup of coffee in the mornings😊 - just don’t ingest these substances later on in the afternoon or evening!).

One other strategy some people try (unless there is a medical reason for them not to do so) is fasting. Sleep and meals have a relationship. Fasting for about 14-16 hours can help you adjust to a new sleep cycle as well (don’t really need to get into the why right now but if you’re curious let me know and we can). For example, eating a final meal at around 3 PM and fasting until 7 AM the next morning. A good rule of thumb is having about 12 hours between breakfast and dinner, with dinner being a few hours before your bedtime.

Finally, when implementing a new sleep schedule - adjusting bedtime by 30 minutes at a time has been effective for me and for many other people. Make sure your body has a few days to adjust to the change, and then bump it down again. Everyone is different, so for some people this may be making an adjustment once a week, whereas others may make adjustments every Sunday and every Wednesday (just an example).

It’s hard, it is worth it though!! You can do this! Once you’ve corrected your sleep habits, the #1 thing to do is to be diligent and strict about your bedtime. That way you can continue enjoying the benefits you’ve worked for 🙂

Something else that can be important, is to only use your bed for two things. Thing number one is sleep. Thing number two you either know, or you are too young to know and it’s irrelevant. So no doing homework in bed, no watching Netflix in bed, no eating in bed, etc. Keeping your phone away from your bed at night can be good too. Using do not disturb, and/or plugging it in to charge in another room (best) or across the room out of reach while in bed.

[violet swan]

holy shit

mans wrote a whole fkn essay lmao

[fallen glen]

gotta help out the homies you know how it is

[violet swan]

yessir

[graceful pine]

I work nights at the moment. 6pm - 12pm, eat, then in bed by 1:30/2am.

[weak flint]

I play CS with a group of friends that use significantly lower sens than me and use their arms for aiming heavily. Does anyone have good resources for shoulder health?

Wanna look out for my group and some have shown interest when I talk about Voltaic / health, but it's mostly wrist stuff I've heard about.

[hollow tendon]

as long as you dont have some bs posture

arm aiming wont hurt you

the problem with wrist is that if you dont stretch or tense up too much

you'll end up with fucked wrists in few years

[true crystal]

Tips for increasing lung capacity?

Including exercise and diet

I have a difficult time exerting my body

[hollow tendon]

run

[true crystal]

I feel like that tightens my airways after about 10-15 min

It almost feels like I have to focus on breathing or else I won't do it properly

Even in idle I will take deep breaths every 45 seconds

To try to like catch up

[hollow tendon]

uhm

Visit a doctor?

LOL

[true crystal]

That would be nice

[worthy cloud]

Sounds like something you should for sure see a doctor about if you're able

Might be asthma or some other respiratory issue

Might even be pandemic related...

[true crystal]

A few months ago I was smoking daily and it wasn't incredibly problematic. I came down with a sickness around that time and continued smoking through. Sickness went away and ever since then every time I do it I get incredibly tired and short breath'd

So I stopped

I don't move that much

[violet sparrow]

Is it better to take a walk then aim train or vice versa

[worthy cloud]

Before and after

Probably before

[dense patio]

if anyone has a tilted mouse on the right side and you want to fix it, make sure your thumb isn't curled and make it straight

it also fixed a big fat pain I had in my hand as well

also made my aim better after getting used to it

especially tracking

that was it

[violet swan]

@true crystal do cardio

it helps

try doing 30 mins of run everyday trying to do deep breaths

[coral nymph]

also run slower than you think you should, usually people run too fast and it just makes for a crappy run

[clever onyx]

Is it possible to sleep at daytime and have a deep sleep?

Like sleep 8am to 5pm

[bronze wasp]

Its called being out of shape

[violet swan]

How much water should I drink in a day?

3 litres

at least

[shell locust]

Yeah but I wouldnt recommend that

[covert sphinx]

no, if he was out of shape he would feel out of breath and muscles would be aching not his throat tightening. probably asthma or something related

[violet swan]

can i get forearm pain from bad armrests

[true crystal]

good advice thank you

[true crystal]

👎

[odd quiver]

i've been getting some odd pain in the right side of my lower back whenever i sit in something that isn't my desk chair

[violet swan]

Gaming chair or ergonomic chair ?

[fresh lake]

ergonomic chair

[violet swan]

Why ergonomic chair is better ?

Than an gaming chair ?

@violet swan gaming chair is marketing

no benefit whatsoever

it just looks "cool" but is worse than a normal chair

the racecar design is really bad for back support

Ok so it's better to find a ergo, than the secret lab chair ?

yes

[fresh lake]

For sure if you're going to spend 350 dollar on a chair

[violet swan]

Thunder X3 yama is a good chair ?

how much is it

183 USD

154 euro

im actually unsure if it's worth the price

What is your chair ?

mine is just a random office chair

Ok

[clever onyx]

can you tell why?

[shell locust]

"Naps that exceed 20 minutes can increase sleep inertia, which leaves you feeling groggy and disoriented. This happens when you awake from a deep sleep. If you’re already sleep-deprived, the symptoms of sleep inertia tend to be more severe and last longer.

Napping too long or too late in the day can make it harder to get a good night’s sleep. This is even worse for people with insomnia who already have trouble sleeping at night.

Longer (>60 minutes) daytime naps have also been associated with a significantly higher risk of cardiovascular disease and all-cause mortality"

However, it's more that <30 min naps give you better benefits than about side effects of longer sleep. Just search up in google if you want more information

[bronze wasp]

Are we talking napping or getting full 8h sleep during daytime?

[covert sphinx]

so youre saying youre basically going to become nocturnal?

[pastel mango]

yo im 179cm and 53 kg should i even work out or just bulk up first?

[tawdry ice]

theres never a reason to "bulk up" before you start working out

ur skinny but not abnormally so

dont bulk up

[pastel mango]

do i gotta eat more than usual though

so i can workout and gain weight at the same time

[tawdry ice]

you dont need more calories to gain muscle