#health

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muted fiber
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Oops just saw soda

cedar briar
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No really I've just been drinking water and some vitamin gummies.

muted fiber
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And diet hasn't changed at all?

cedar briar
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No really

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I don't have alot of money to spend on those kinds of foods anymore

muted fiber
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Water can also make your muscles swell due to them taking it up, as opposed to being dehydrated, this could also be a cause

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Are you an adult? Teen?

cedar briar
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Teen. About to turn 16

muted fiber
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Ah. Dude. You're at the peak of your growth, especially muscle/broadening. I'd say it's your hormones/genetics kicking in, very unlikely the water

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Although, you should stick to that water and good diet thing. Once you reach early 20s your body will start storing fat differently, so low junk food and water will make you always lean regardless of working out

cedar briar
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Really I thought my testerone would boost up or something but I haven't noticed a thing.

muted fiber
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Wdym 'tesosterone would boost up'? It's not something you feel persay

cedar briar
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Maybe it's something genetic

violet swan
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probably aim training beefing up your arm

cedar briar
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could be too

muted fiber
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Lmao

cedar briar
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but I play 31.655 cm/360

muted fiber
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It's just growing man. Not your aim but each to their own haha

cedar briar
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If I had a G502 I would be more buff than the rock rn. And yeah that's true.

violet swan
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My friend thinks he has abs but he’s just so skinny that you can see his tiny muscles kekw

violet swan
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Lmao

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For me working out has improved my aim tbf

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Idk how but it has

violet swan
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Pure pain

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I cant move my neck without the left side hurting

pseudo crest
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i know how it is

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its pure pain as u said

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but i didnt have it bc bad posture while gaming

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i had it bc i was having bad posture while sleeping

violet swan
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Me too

pseudo crest
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oh

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i thought that pain it was bc of bad posture while gaming for u

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but is bad posture while sleeping

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what u need to do is to move ur neck a little bit to left consistent

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and then more and more to the left

violet swan
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My posture is all around horrible

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I need to work on it

muted fiber
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Sleeping posture? Hmm I'm gonna Google that never heard of it

earnest epoch
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Currently a college student drowning in work, also working out, and I can't get enough sleep and its slowly killing me

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So my energy feels like it progessively becomes less and less over time

vast temple
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na tis placebo

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work even harder

earnest epoch
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The only thing keeping me alive is my drive and work ethic atm

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If i was to slack or procrastinate at all i would just die tbh

vast temple
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oh nice

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but u gonna be tired anyways

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might as well say fuck it

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and work even harder

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something good will happen eventually

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if not go back to working as much as now

winter abyss
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Good advice: Completely ignore this guy

vast temple
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and it gonna feel a breeze

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@winter abyss lmao

earnest epoch
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lmaooo

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Honestly its really just the schoolwork that drowns me, ive got classes until like 4 every day, then i workout, then by the time i start work its like 8

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and ive usually got like 4 to 6 hours of work a night

vast temple
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damn

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sounds tuff

subtle flame
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do you stay up late?

vast temple
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8 + 4-6 = 12-2

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so he does

earnest epoch
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yeah i do

subtle flame
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maybe try going to sleep earlier and then waking up earlier, and doing stuff in the morning instead

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if you can

earnest epoch
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rarely go to bed before midnight

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I have class at 8 in the morning

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plus the way i look at it, if there is work i gotta do, im going to lose sleep

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Whether it be at night or in the mornign

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morning*

vast temple
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that is a good mindset tho to keep u from becoming lazy

earnest epoch
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Lived my last 18 being lazy lol not going back to that

vast temple
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either way

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talks about taking naps

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over sleeping at night

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will give u more energy

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read article

earnest epoch
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I have considered power naps honestly

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seems like a good idea

vast temple
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ye it is

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tbh i do the same as u as a hs student

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but not to study

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i just watch yt videos

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and sumtimes i be dropping a sleep and waking up 20 minutes later

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and im full of energy

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but I aint try to fully implement naps yet

violet swan
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For me working out has improved my aim tbf
@violet swan maybe you just improved your overall health and you feel a lot better so you play better.

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mabye

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i started working out same time i started aimtraining

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so mabye its both

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oh well

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i mean its prob the aim training

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but ye lol

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nahhh

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its both

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working out doesnt really improve your aim

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unless you're super unhealthy then you improve health

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but if you're like normal weight or a bit skinny and then get buff i dont think it would help you. idk which one you are of those though

earnest epoch
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My personal experience with working out

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is im more steady after that

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everything is more smooth

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Its like my muscles are relaxed and more comfortable, without a workout they feel tense

stark oasis
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lmao no way I drop caffeine for a polyphasic sleep cycle

worthy cloud
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Yeah i do feel like I can aim a bit steadier after working out as long as I didn't work my grip/forearms

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Directly

keen estuary
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Yo

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I found out a super good tea

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It's called black tea and it has the most caffeine out of all the teas

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And it helps with gut heath and heart heath

violet swan
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And it tastes like shit

celest widget
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Yeah, as long as muscles aren't too sore, then it's a bit easier to aim after a workout because it's harder to tense up.

violet swan
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if I plan to sleep as little as possible today, what is the least amount of sleep I need to be functionalble tomorrow

violet swan
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im fat as fuck

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help me kevin yep

worthy cloud
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Work out eat less ok

violet swan
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10/10 advice

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can i just eat fruits and vegetables for the rest of my life

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since i dont really like meat

worthy cloud
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You can

past kelp
wide whale
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I learned in my weight lifting class today that I need 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight per day. I weigh like 130lbs for example, so I’d have to take in 130 grams of protein. What about other macronutrients like fats and carbs?

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Is there a rule for those?

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I’m just curious because I’ve never watched how I eat, so I’m not exactly sure.

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That doesn’t seem right to me because that’s like

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A ton of protein

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I could be wrong, but I thought I would be best to ask here

wraith wolf
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No that’s correct, for weightlifting you should be consuming 0.8-1g of your body weight

worthy cloud
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Its a little complicated

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Depends on body composition and goals

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130g a day should be fine

wide whale
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Alright that sounds pretty good thanks guys

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I had 4 eggs just now, and some Breakfast essentials

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What about carbs and fats?

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Same amount or different?

violet swan
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just ask your weight lifting trainer

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he/she prob knows better since they are working with you and see you in person

lethal cloak
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does it take awhile to lose a caffine tolorance?

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i drank like 420mg of caffeine a day for a while and now stopped

eternal dirge
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I just need this space to vent.

I've been playing Rocket League a lot more, and I admit that I'm not as good as my friends. They have a better understanding of hitting the ball in a specific direction and then making plays based off of that. For me, I tend to whiff some shots and some saves I just whiff. My friends aren't huge fans, to say the least.

Whenever I whiff, I usually get irritated at myself and groan "Oh my god." Of course, they start chirping me because I shouldn't whiff easy shots like that. Sometimes I ask "What was I even supposed to do?" because it was such an odd scenario. In response? I might get called "RETAHDED" and stupid because I don't understand what I could've done better. Even in tournaments; in a plat tourney, we got to the final match, and it was 1-1 on a best of 3. Because I whiffed many hard saves, we lost 1-4. It wasn't fun, and I didn't feel good. They didn't like it either.

Recently, while I got back into a discord call, I heard them talking about me, and they were mentioning about how it's annoying that A. I don't admit shit when I do something wrong(to an extent, kinda true in retrospect) and B. apparently don't want to play good, especially in that previous tourney. Like come on.

violet swan
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don't play with them then

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plenty of teams around, you can't go far being in a team that has no harmony

vast temple
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is adderal worse than energy drinks??????

lethal cloak
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well

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if you arnt perscribed to adderal

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you shouldnt take it

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its ment to help people with add/adhd

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and other attention disorders

worthy cloud
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yeah and it's fine if you're taking the prescribed dose or even less

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but that's the kind of thing you should talk to whoever prescribed it about

muted fiber
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@lethal cloak 7-10 days of cold turkey. Drink it solely every 48 hours and you won't build tolerance, try it

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Don't forget, soda, chocolate, everything has it

silent osprey
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mm anyone got any good finger stretch stuff? been having pretty stiff fingers recently

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no wrist problems, just fingers

worthy cloud
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something like this maybe @silent osprey ?

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lots of good finger health stuff in the guitar community

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probably applies to gamers as well

silent osprey
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ty ill look in a bit

placid bison
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didnt play much kovaaks lately, took a lot of full day rests did stretches and somehow got myself ulnar wrist pain

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always played a lot of kvk never had any rests and never did stretches and never had any pain wtf

gloomy kestrel
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someone send me wrist exercises please

worthy cloud
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also some in the channel pins

gloomy kestrel
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@worthy cloud where?

worthy cloud
gloomy kestrel
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cheers

muted fiber
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Am I the only one that finds these stretches do fuck all? Once I surpass the 4 hour gaming mark per day, they get sore no matter what precautions taken

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Forget kovaaks. 30 mins of that a day causes agony

stark oasis
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@eternal dirge fuck them kids, if they want to be toxic they aren’t your friends. They should help you get better instead of flaming you

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Surround yourself with people that want you to succeed and you will go very far

eternal dirge
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@placid bison you might be having some hand posture issues. Evaluate how your wrist is positioned, as well as your arm. Think about anything else you do that puts some pressure on ur wrist

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@stark oasis we talked shit out and it was heat of the moment stuff
So far things are alright, they were just chirping and being silly, didnt mean anything personal. so all shit so far between us is aside
I might shift my mind though so I start admitting that I make mistakes, and then use that energy to improve myself

atomic sky
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should i have my back on my chair cause i kinda lean forward while i play

muted fiber
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@atomic sky Yes

violet swan
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how do i stop myself from drinking ice coffe

winter abyss
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dont drink ice coffee

violet swan
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thats hard am so addicted to it

eternal dock
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Just get gud and stop drinking it

winter abyss
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whos stronger:
brain or some ice coffee?

violet swan
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i dont drink it to improve cuz i drank it so much caffeine / sugar makes no difference

storm plinth
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If you're looking for a caffeine replacement that is cheap I suggest getting straight up caffeine pills that are like 100mg of caffeine. Here in Aus they sell under the brand No Doz. They're like 15 cents per 100mg which you only need 1-2 of per day so will work out cheaper than any other form of caffeine.

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@violet swan

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Your wallet and teeth will thank you

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Also I suggest reducing your tolerance levels by simply not having any caffeine on days you're not working

stark oasis
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I know energy drinks are bad for you but recently my vice has been red bull in the morning

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I fill my yeti cup up and sip on the stuff, it's great.

violet swan
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true but am 14

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redbull so good !!

stark oasis
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lol when I was your age I hated the stuff

worthy cloud
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hol up

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how many servings of red bull fit in your yeti cup

violet swan
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They taste so nice ngl

opal kernel
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isnt there a difference between natural and synthetic caffeine tho

storm plinth
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caffeine is defined by its chemical structure so I'm pretty sure they'll be the same - the difference is probs everything aside from the caffeine

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you can do your own research on that topic

bleak veldt
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I just wanted to ask if anyone has a suggestion.. im constantly without energy and without any motivation and i was wondering what is there that i can do to fix it

violet swan
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@bleak veldt exercise is nice

bleak veldt
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i do it 6x a week 2h a day in the gym

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since im a javelin thrower i have to

violet swan
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you sleeping well

bleak veldt
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thats part of the problem

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no i dont

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constantly having nightmares and just not sleeping well

violet swan
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this is out of my league

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I suck at health

bleak veldt
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well me too lmao

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i shoud see a doctor

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but i cant

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since the whole pandemic stuff is going on i cant go anywhere

brave depot
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had this particular posture and how i place my arm when i do kovaaks and when i play, suddenly everything feels off now. Anybody else experienced this? what did you do to get "better".

storm plinth
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6x a week 2h a gym and you can't fall asleep?

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@bleak veldt

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could be a large variety of factors, probs see ur GP if your standard fixes aren't working

bleak veldt
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it is what it is

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caffieine fixes everything

granite inlet
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when i play games or kovaaks i have a posture like sitting on an indian toilet where both my feet are on my chair should i change my posture or is it not that much of a problem

frail rover
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Have your feet still on the ground.

twin plank
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An apple a day keeps the doctor away 😎

wraith wolf
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feet on the ground and have your back supported by laying back

thorn blade
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Feel like my posture is so ass when gaming cause I have my arm resting pre deep in on the table. Should I just like get used to have less of my arm on the table or its whatever

somber tinsel
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s-sens val 0.41 800

jade egretBOT
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@somber tinsel, please use this command in #commands, I have sent it there for you

lusty marten
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@wraith wolf What’s the best chair you can get for good posture and health?

storm plinth
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not sure about best but Herman Miller I would recommend if budget isn't an issue

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the mesh ones

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or embody

weak oxide
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you can also try steelcase if you want cheaper

wraith wolf
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Sorry for the late response I was asleep but yes, icy and and yan are correct

blissful spindle
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I have a steel case leap at home and a Herman Miller aeron at work. You can’t go wrong with either.

Customer support for steelcase is awesome. 12 year warranty. My pneumatic cylinder was leaking and the chair couldn’t maintain height. They sent a guy out to replace it within 48 hours, completely free.

fading tree
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@somber tinsel i use the exact same val sens as you lol

violet swan
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I need help what i should do i going sleep at 4am and wokeup at 2pm how i can try comeback to my old shedule ( 12pm - 8/9 am ) ? Sry for bad eng

ruby hawk
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is it likely that gripping my mouse too tight is causing my wrist pains, I've been maining the viper mini but with my grip and how small the mouse is I feel like I have to grip it really tight to aim well with it, is there anything I can do to stop this or is it better to just buy a mouse better suited to my hand size/grip?

somber tinsel
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@fading tree bro so cool haha. That sens is perfect man!

muted fiber
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@ruby hawk Buy a better sized mouse before the pain becomes chronic. I insisted I stick with a particular mouse that caused me pain, eventually bought the glorious model D. Made it a lot better, but now than damage is done and I get sore very easily

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Literally got on kovaaks after 3-4 days rest, 2 minutes of kovaaks my forearm feels like it's gonna cramp

ruby hawk
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Yeah I think I will, I've been doing hot and cold therapy which has eased the pain quite a bit but I think I'll probably just rest my wrist until I can get a new mouse so I don't cause anymore damage

mental drift
violet swan
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is there anyway to make myself feel refreshed quick? Does a short nap do the trick

wraith wolf
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You can try splashing really cold water in your face

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A short 10-20 min nap can also work

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Or do both take a nap first then splash some cold water @violet swan

azure dome
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Literally got on kovaaks after 3-4 days rest, 2 minutes of kovaaks my forearm feels like it's gonna cramp
@muted fiber damn i have foreaerm burn rn after 4 day of kovaak

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Im 2nd restday now still hurts

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Doing this rn

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Desk was also tooo high (table)

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And i gripped mouse too hard

muted fiber
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@azure dome I've tried his videos, only helps like 5%. Desk is 100% ergo. Mouse grip yeah could be, do you still grip hard?

azure dome
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I loosened grip

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But damage was done

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On day 1

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Kovaak

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Super tight

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Day 2 super tight

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Day 3 loose after reddit search and little sore arm

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Day 4 loose

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Still little sore

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But less then day 1 and 2

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Day 5 no kovaak just csgo

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Cramp at evening so i decided itz time to rest

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Desk is trash i have its too high

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I have herman miller chair but a facking table as desk...

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So i will fix this

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I think its mainly from cramping the mouse

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Too hard

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In stress for gerting good scores

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I learned quick smooth and relax is the key

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Glad i found out early to not fuck with this

violet swan
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@azure dome try using ice where it hurts

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it should take the inflammation away

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worked for me

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idk if it will for u tho

muted fiber
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Is that a temporary fix @violet swan ?

violet swan
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my doctor recommended me to try ice if nothing works

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and it helped me

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thing is ice could be harmful too but it depends on the injury

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ig its worth a try ice thru a towel

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for like 30 mins

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it takes the pain away at least

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and it kind of helped me permanently as well

azure dome
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Okay

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Should i stop gaming altogether and rest or what

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Or Should i fix posture

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Train 3 times a week forearms and wrist and stretch during sessions of gaming?

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I mean can i still game on a bit and put focus on being smooth

violet swan
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if there's no pain, it should be ok

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try doing just smoothness routine first

azure dome
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Its a bit of a burning feeling

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In my forearm

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I read thar can be a precursor of nerve damage omg

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Pain is nerve damage

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They say on plebbit :p

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Just smoothness routine from what sparky routine?

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I dont think i can handle this kovaak rn...

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Im gonna get a new desk and when i get it ill start out very easy on myself and stretch every hour

muted fiber
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I got that burning feeling too. That's nerve damage?!

azure dome
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Dude its precursor

muted fiber
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I guarantee new desk and stretch won't help. I have a very expensive setup, nothing is incorrect ergonomically. Still no improvement

azure dome
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Just stop mousing arround

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I guess?

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My plan is to rest and train until it feels better

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How long do you have this and what did you try cutter?

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Training i mean weight training

muted fiber
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I don't get how these guys on here train hard and get to diamond + without dying from rsi

azure dome
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Lol same

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Im literally only.4 days in

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Also logged 120hours csgo

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Past 2 weeks

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For couple months

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But had no pain or burning or whatwver

muted fiber
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Umm I've had the problem for a few months now. Pre covid was fine. During covid is started to develop being inside gaming more. But now it gets irritated so easy. I've tried everything, standing desk. Vertical mouse. Posture. Stretch. Warmups. Warm room. Nothing helps

azure dome
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Did ypu try wrist training?

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With dumbell

violet swan
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Maybe your endurance isn't good?

azure dome
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Yeah must he a contributing factor also

muted fiber
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I was lifting weights 5x a week pre covid. I was pretty fit. That also stopped the same time too which probably didn't help. But scared to pick up the weights again with these pains

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@violet swan Endurance in general?

violet swan
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wrist and arm

azure dome
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Do lightweight for reps for nothing but bloodflow

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20 reps

muted fiber
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So I should train these up again?

azure dome
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3 sets

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Levi guy had a vid

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He did wrist curls and reverse

muted fiber
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Yeah got the good on forearm workouts

azure dome
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Wrist curls and zome variation

muted fiber
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They're risky if not careful too

azure dome
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I also did some hammer curls

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Keep the weight low

muted fiber
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How long you been doing them

azure dome
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I used 5 kg

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1 day

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Lol

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Today

muted fiber
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Haha in 2 weeks @ me and let me know how it's progressing

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I'll start tomorrow

azure dome
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I will man

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I had also a nasty shoulder injury

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From benching

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Used sort of same method

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And it worked wonders

muted fiber
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All those streamers play 8-16 hours a day with average posture and are fine. I have everything perfect and tired after 1 hour haha wtf

azure dome
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2p reps lightweight benching more reps lighter weight and progressing instead of 5x5 texas method style

muted fiber
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Ah right. Ouch. Benching is a bad one

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5x5 so hard on the tendons

azure dome
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Benching is good if you know wtf youre doing

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5x5 is asking for injuries imo

muted fiber
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How old r u

azure dome
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Except for squats

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Im 32

muted fiber
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Squats exception. But squats also have their own issues. I gave up gym pre covid because my knees couldn't tolerate it anymore

azure dome
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Form

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Always a form issue

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Hard to diy it

muted fiber
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Really?

azure dome
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Yes

muted fiber
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32 I assume you know your shit

azure dome
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I gone up to 250kg squat

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Without pain

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Its al about how you keep tension and torque

muted fiber
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I had a trainer show me the form, got the form correct but it put pressure on the hip?? It was just moving pain

violet swan
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aimer7 has an kovaaks endurance routine if thats your issue

muted fiber
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@violet swan I'll Google it

azure dome
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Its so much more to what you see someone do

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Its about the torque

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How do you brace etc

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Intentions

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Its easy when you see someone do it like boxing is

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But the easier and more basic something looks the harder it is to master

muted fiber
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I see

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Hmm why is weight lifting so much less injury than kovaals lmao

azure dome
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Haha

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Its similar

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I jumped in yet again way too exited

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Pushing way too hard

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Again

muted fiber
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Haha worst thing ever. Going for high scores is the death

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I think our gripping firm is doing the damage

azure dome
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Yes man

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Also in game like cs

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Ypu have a lot of breaks

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But in kovaak tracking especially

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Fucking tense

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When i smooth my grip i actually got better highscores

muted fiber
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Wonder if the strength training will help us not be bothered by this firm grip. Cos I can subconsciously grip soft in kovaak, but once I get in warzone my hands start crushing like a car crusher

azure dome
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But the damage was already done

muted fiber
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Oh you're totally 100% right

azure dome
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You need to actively focus on relaxing in game also man

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I find it hard but its a must

muted fiber
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You do the same thing right?

azure dome
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I try and i notice i must to keep grinding

muted fiber
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So difficult

azure dome
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I read up on it the last days

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Because of my soreness burning arm

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Glad i stopped

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Instead of pushing trough

muted fiber
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Maybe give it a week/2 rest

azure dome
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Yeah

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Rest and stretch and training

muted fiber
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Use the time to train

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Yeah legit

azure dome
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Yeah and review demos

muted fiber
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I came back with better scores after rest

azure dome
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And watch some voo csgo

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Lol

muted fiber
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Yeah dude, watching streamers etc will benefit heaps too

azure dome
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But your still sore ?

muted fiber
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Yeah the minute I came back, sore

azure dome
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Damn

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How long ypu took a break?

muted fiber
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About 1.5 weeks. I was really sore, at the same time my computer died, I got the 3090, so I took the time to fix and install and rest

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Had 1 day kovaaks and the pain was creeping up

azure dome
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Damnnn

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But you grip the mouse too harx

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D

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Tension is killer i read

muted fiber
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Stopped training. Ordered the glorious model D (light mouse). 6 weeks later it turns up, makes it way better! But still get sore from kovaals

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Honestly in kovaaks I don't grip hard

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I grip very soft

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But still gets sore

azure dome
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Oke Also when you split the routine over the day?

muted fiber
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Yeah sometimes I only do 10 mins a day

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Is yours this bad?

azure dome
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Well i would say its not bad becauze its a burn/irritation

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But from what i read

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Its bad apparantly

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Only in the extensor

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Near elbow

muted fiber
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When you say burn, do you mean like that feeling when your forearm muscle is about to cramp?

azure dome
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Not in my fingers or wrisr

muted fiber
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Or literal fire burn feel?

azure dome
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Like fire a bit

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Inflamation

muted fiber
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Oh damn

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Mine just feels like a cramp

azure dome
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Its mild

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For me

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But enough to start freaking out lol

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A bit numb

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Feeling

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Also

muted fiber
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So yours is elbowish? Mines like if you look at your own palms, then look down to your forearm muscle, it's there

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Hmmmm numb... Can't say had that

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That sounds a bit worse

azure dome
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Oke

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Thats on ypur flexor then

muted fiber
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I'd rest man, kovaaks won't make a diff 1 week

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Yeah flexor!

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Is that bad?

azure dome
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Yeah i need some rest

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I dont know

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If nothing helps.id advice going to a physio dude

muted fiber
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You're right. Just so hard working full time and side jobs etc

azure dome
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Im just happy its not carpal tunnel full fledge

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Yet

muted fiber
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Have you been to one?

azure dome
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No

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Im not worried enough

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If my self help does not work

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Ill go

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Time limit 2 weeks

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From today

muted fiber
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Yeah that sounds like a good plan for you

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Mines not bad enough to visit one

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But try your workouts and 100% let me know if it works or how you go. We seem to be one of the only ones this bad

azure dome
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Will do

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Stay healthy bro

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Dont push the limits

muted fiber
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You too bruz

stray vale
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aim traiing seems to make my forearm antagonist muscles really tender on my right arm, is this normal?

wraith wolf
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You’re too tense try focusing on relaxing your arm when you’re playing

stray vale
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ok

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@wraith wolf thanks, ill try it

azure dome
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Any posture recomendations?

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Here

winter abyss
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Pinned

heavy axle
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when i play keyboard my left shoulder kinda hurts idk if its posture or because my keyboard is like 60 degrees

wraith wolf
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Is your shoulder shrugged?

heavy axle
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yea slightly

wraith wolf
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Adjust your chair so that it isn’t anymore

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Your shoulders should be relaxed

silver ether
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Sleep podcast

dull void
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im having pain right here

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right underneath my knuckles on the bottom side only

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it's a weird kind of pain i think

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any ideas of whats up?

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been going on for 3 days

wraith wolf
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what kind of pain is it, how do you grip your mouse?

muted fiber
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@dull void I'm gonna guess small mouse here

dull void
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yeah, i typically use pincer claw on an egg but it's never caused me problems before. since the pain started i've been using a relaxed fingertip on a big mouse and trying not to play fps games or do stuff that'll aggravate it

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i'm not really sure how to describe the pain except that i think it's different from muscle pain

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i don't think its nerve pain either but im not sure

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almost feels like its in the joint maybe?

worthy cloud
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tendon inflammation of some kind maybe

arctic moat
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Just wanted to say I appreciate you guys helping people out here every day

wraith wolf
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always happy to help widepeepolove

gritty crest
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Worth to buy one handed keyboard

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Esp for ergonomics, my old keyboard is getting mushy.

violet swan
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one handed?

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what does that mean?

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like those gaming keyboards?

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or a smaller like 60% keyboard

gritty crest
wraith wolf
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I think he means those tiny pads theyre like just the basic keys they're mostly marketed for console players

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yeah those

violet swan
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I dont think it's worth it

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better to get a tkl keyboard

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those are mostly very old and outdated

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and usability is very low

gritty crest
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Ye im asking if its worth for the ergonomics

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Cause I already have a keyboard, plus mouse space

wraith wolf
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im not sure, you can try getting a wrist rest

violet swan
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@gritty crest which ergonomic aspect are you looking for?

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support for your palm? distance between mouse and keyboard?

gritty crest
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Ye tbh space mostly

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I dont wanna pay 120 for a small keyboard

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Like a ducky

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One hand keyboards are very cheap

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Compared to that

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So right now I tilt my keyboard

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But that might not be good for long term health

violet swan
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get a womier k66 or if you actually have ducky money to spend, get a leopold maybe a fc660?

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ducky is ridiculously overpriced if your getting it for 120

azure dome
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@muted fiber feeling better already a bit sore from training but not burning anymore and not numb

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Want to dive in but ill refrain

muted fiber
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@azure dome Interesting. Might be the relief from blood flowing to the muscles/general area. Yeah good idea, don't rush. Too early to tell. Don't confuse instant relief for the solution (as you'd know anyway)

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I also paid attention to my death grip on the mouse today. I grab it quite firm. Hard not to without losing accuracy

azure dome
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I will, you have to man loosen up

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"More relax Your hand is, better and quicker your aim will be. Slow down in Kovaak, set the scenarios to almost to slow, train Your muscle memory from smooth fluid movements. Speed the game up gradually. Think actively about your arm being relaxed.
Good Luck!
"

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Yeah the blood flow did some.work

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Im stretching every 2 hour aprox also

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I also have captain of crush grippers which i use now

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Used to be at level 2.5

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XD

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Lol even some guy posted them on that reddit post

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Im on track

warm flare
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Does anyone ever have problems with their forearm getting hot and sticky to your desk cause it really messes up my aim when I’m aim training and forearm just starts getting hot and starts sticking to the desk making it hard to move my mouse

muted fiber
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@azure dome Interesting. I'll try this. Smoothing sounds like a good idea. So you're using those grip strength things? I always thought they were bad for you haha

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@warm flare Get a bigger mouse pad and rest your forearm on that (although ideally you should be resting the forearm on the bench anyway, it hinders aim imo). Otherwise get a sleeve, makes it slippery

azure dome
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@muted fiber likeeverything in training its bad when you overindulge and expect lineair progression and ignore pain..

muted fiber
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Good point. Would be nice to get to the bottom of this

violet swan
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I stretch my body, wrists and do eye exercises every day before aim training but for the last couple of days my eyes started burning and watering. I do not want to, but seems like could be a good idea to take a couple of days of. What do you folks think?

muted fiber
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Rest is always good. Eye exercises seem excessive though. I stare at a PC 16 hours a day with no issue, you sure you don't need glasses?

violet swan
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How old are you if I may ask?

azure dome
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Burnimg and watering?

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Arent you blinking

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Enough?

wraith maple
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I don't know if it can help you, but using f.lux helped me with eye comfort, since it's filtering blue lights. I've never had your eyes issues but it helped me relax me eyes when playing

dire knoll
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honest opinion on using a sports sleeve on ur aiming arm?

summer verge
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I stretch my body, wrists and do eye exercises every day before aim training but for the last couple of days my eyes started burning and watering. I do not want to, but seems like could be a good idea to take a couple of days of. What do you folks think?
@violet swan first of

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the fuck are eye exercises ?

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secondly

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just like when focusing on anything with your eyes

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espeically with something like gaming where you are close to monitor and your eyes are perma heavily focused on smth

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you automatically start to blink less

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its only natural

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so ofc your eyes go dry

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hence the watering

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get eye drops or w.e

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other thing that damages your eyes is blue light

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can get glasses to counter that, or take breaks or use this windows night light setting

violet swan
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@summer verge set of eye moves to strengthen muscles that move eyes. Looking right to left, up and down. Focusing on a pen and moving it closer then farther etc.

worthy cloud
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It is good to focus on things further away from you every so often

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Eye excersizes are fine

summer verge
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Never heard of those

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lul

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one of those over specific things

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actual usefullness probaply is rather hard to dertermine

worthy cloud
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I just try to make sure I don't stare at something close to me uninterrupted for too long

summer verge
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but TLDR: while gaming eyes constantly focus on monitor which is close to face > resulting in blinking less so eyes go dry @violet swan

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just use eyedrops

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if that doesnt help, the other thing causing eye burning is prolly excessive blue light exposure

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in that case take breaks and fix monitor settings

muted fiber
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I can vouch for the night light setting in windows. I just leave it on 24/7. That blue tinge really affects you

violet swan
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So I've lost 20 pounds in the past 2 months. Started working out a few times a week, started eating less/went on keto for 4 weeks. I started at 213, now I'm at 193. My problem is now that I don't have an appetite during the day. I'm not sure if this is normal, or if I developed some type of eating disorder.

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I've had 1 meal per day the past 4 days.

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Smaller portions of food than I'm used to eating.

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Granted I didn't move from my desk all day and I take multivitamins

wraith wolf
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Have you been working out the past 4 days?

violet swan
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no

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just schoolwork and games

worthy cloud
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If you were working out before and stopped it can affect your appetite

violet swan
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I mean I've only been working out 2-3 times a week

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I do

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moreso the food thing I'm worried about

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I haven't been sleeping well

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I even quit taking caffeine

keen estuary
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@violet swan when u don’t have a hunger to eat it probably means 1 your sick or 2 your body adapted to your diet

violet swan
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I'm not sick

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But I've had like only a few hundred calories per day

keen estuary
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Do u fast

violet swan
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I'm basically doing a 24hour fast at this point

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just eating around lunch

keen estuary
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That’s why

violet swan
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why

keen estuary
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You body adapts to your fast

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Have u ever herd people that fast for a week

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The first 3 days are hard with the hunger but as the days go on the hunger gets less and less

violet swan
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I don't think it's a good thing

worthy cloud
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Yeah at some point your body adapts to a diet

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But that's not good

keen estuary
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It’s a bad thing when u don’t eat

worthy cloud
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Deficit is too big

violet swan
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I need my body to function fully

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and my brain

keen estuary
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And it’s a good thing cuz u won’t over eat

worthy cloud
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You should force yourself to eat a minimum amount of healthy foods

keen estuary
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Yea

violet swan
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how many calories

worthy cloud
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There are a lot of things that may affect your hunger levels

keen estuary
#

2k to maintain the same weight

worthy cloud
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No

violet swan
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I can't eat 2k calories rn

keen estuary
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Your body burns 2k a day

worthy cloud
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There are general rules you can use to estimate your total daily energy expenditure

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Eat 2-300 calories below that

keen estuary
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@worthy cloud he works out tho

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I would say 300 below if he don’t work out but he does

worthy cloud
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Depends how much fat he wants to lose

keen estuary
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Yea

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That’s why I said 2k if he want to maintain his weight

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@violet swan want to become buff

violet swan
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Once I lose enough weight

keen estuary
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If I want to become buff u got to eat a lot more

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U

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A lot of protien

worthy cloud
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If you eat enough protein and eat just under your maintenance calories, you should be able to pull off some recomp instead of just fat loss

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Especially if you have noob gains still available

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Takes a more precise diet though

muted fiber
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Yeah what these guys said ^
Do not do extreme fasts like you're doing, you'll shock your body to go into survival mode and it store fat a lot easier. You should be eating a little less than your maintenance calories. If you do it faster, there's been studies that prove you can permanently reduce your metabolisms and forever out on weight/fat easier. Don't be silly about it. Exercise at least every 2 days. Eat reasonable. Don't eat simple sugar where you can. Eat small frequent meals throughout the day, it's like keeping a little fire burning as opposed to dumping 600 logs on a matchstick.

Finally, your lack of hunger is stemmed most likely from not eating at breakfast. Very unhealthy, eat breakfast and eat small throughout the day. You don't want your blood sugar dipping down all the time, keep it levelled out

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I don't know 1 person who solely eats healthy food and says it's easy to reach their calorie goal. If you eat what you're meant to, it's hard as hell. Try eating 100 carrots a day instead of 2 chocolate bars

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(not literally carrots, just an example)

worthy cloud
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It is hard for sure

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At one point last year I was on a 3300 calorie a day diet plan

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All chicken, white fish, broccoli

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Oatmeal, egg whites

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I couldn't eat it all

cosmic verge
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what's the difference between the hang loose and sagittal hang loose stretches. the description and images aren't making sense

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is it just the hang loose stretch but in the plane perpendicular to the regular one?

pastel mango
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why does my wrist keep snapping every time i rotate it

wraith wolf
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theres probably some inflammation does it hurt?

pastel mango
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yeah it is pretty inflamed and it kinda hurts

wraith wolf
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thats why, rest your wrist and get an ice pack wrap a papertowel around it and ice your wrist 10 minutes at a time throughout the day

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and take a couple of days off playing so you dont injure yourself more

pastel mango
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@wraith wolf thanks

worthy cloud
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@wraith wolf I was too scared to do my 3rd rep cuz I had no spotter sadge

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Haven't had a spotter since before covid

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And its stalling my gainz

prisma cradle
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Heya

wraith wolf
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there's nobody at the gym when you go? Sadge @worthy cloud

worthy cloud
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I don't feel comfortable asking for a spotter since covid weird

wraith wolf
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Yeah understandable, yikes are they enforcing 6 feet apart at your gym? nobody respects that rule at mine Sadge

worthy cloud
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Nobody is following it but I just dont feel comfortable asking

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They'd probably not mind

azure dome
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@muted fiber i tried some csgo and still hurts a little, im going to skip kovaaks now and fix my posture (had elbow on desk because it was too high, waiting on my new desk to allow elbows at side posture)

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Played half hour deathmatch only, on the table with my elbow at side, uncomfortable for legs and could just barely get my hand 15 cm over the table to mouse

muted fiber
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@azure dome Thanks for keeping me in the loop man. I just had a thought, ever since I got rid of my standing desk the problem has been worse. You should get yourself one of those electric adjustable ones

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Hmm that's not good

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I'm also in a bit of pain today. Played cod last night a few hours and suddenly out of nowhere it flared. Cramps in forearm and mild pains/aches

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Going to rest as Empyrean mentioned

azure dome
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I also played cod last night for an hour and same

muted fiber
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Have not touched Kovaaks all week btw

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Damn. What's your cm/360

azure dome
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Kovaaks is out man

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2.2 sens csgo 400 dpi

muted fiber
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Legit

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What's that in cm

azure dome
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Like 7.33 in cod

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I dont know

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Sry

muted fiber
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I'm like 1200 dpi 3.8 cod

azure dome
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Oke so im on the low end

muted fiber
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Tried 5.8 today and it felt good/fast. But not sure if that's the solution. Dropping from 40-30 definitely did wonders

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40cm-30cm*

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Let me see what yours us

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Is***

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Damn 47cm/360

azure dome
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Is that bad?

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I had lower sens before

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Like 1.7 400 dpi xD

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6 something in cod

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But since a month or 2 i dramatically increased my.gaming

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Well i just did gripper training and im also stretching during the day so lets see where it goes.

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3 sets of 20 with the S captain of crush and 1 set of 20 with the trainer

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Will start to slowly build up to level 1

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And limited hours

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In game

dull void
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@worthy cloud assuming my hand thing is tendon inflammation what would be the proper treatment?

azure dome
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Getting blood flow

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And refrain from doi g the thing causing the inflamation

muted fiber
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@azure dome Might not be bad, but personally my wrist would be so much worse moving my arm that much

wraith wolf
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Oh right! Do you have any working methods to quickly lose the death grip habit? I find I can play light, but the second I go in warzone and start sweating it, I subconsciously start death gripping when I'm getting rushed/shot at
@muted fiber

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I moved the convo here in the appropriate channel so we can continue talking about it, as far as that goes you just have to be conscious abut it and actively remind yourself not to when you catch yourself gripping your mouse hard

muted fiber
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@wraith wolf Thank you. Sorry for wrong channel. Okay I'll try being really careful.

wraith wolf
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Absolutely no worries, please come back if you have anymore questions. If your pain never resolves you might want to consider making an appt to get the proper care from your physician since they can do a proper diagnosis and pin down specifically what's causing the pain

azure dome
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Arms hanging hurt my elbow more @muted fiber

muted fiber
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Thanks Empyrean that's super kind. I think you're right might just go to doc

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Terminator do you also find arms hanging flares your back/shoulder blade?

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Interesting video

azure dome
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It mainly just flares mt elbow on tricep and forearm

hollow vector
#

When i do aim training i'm having arm pain i dont know why but my upper arm is aching after 5-10 mins of aim training in kovaaks, but when i'm playing csgo/valorant i'm not experiencing arm pain.

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I can't do training on kovaaks because of it. I want to get better but this problema is stopping me. Idk what the problem is. Anyone here experience this too before?

thorny dew
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are you tensing up a lot?

wraith wolf
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what kind of scenarios are you doing? does it only hurt when doing tracking/smoothing?

hollow vector
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are you tensing up a lot?
@thorny dew No

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what kind of scenarios are you doing? does it only hurt when doing tracking/smoothing?
@wraith wolf thingauleteasy only i just started but in aimlabs i do the gridshot and its hurting too.

muted fiber
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@hollow vector Stay away from gridshot in aimlab. That crap destroys your arm/hands and you don't get any better at aiming with it imo

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Awesome. Kovaaks is worth every cent

hollow vector
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@hollow vector Stay away from gridshot in aimlab. That crap destroys your arm/hands and you don't get any better at aiming with it imo
@muted fiber oh really why?

muted fiber
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It's a ridiculous amount of clicking in a very short time. It doesn't really challenge your precision, tracking in anyway. The switching is very small and easy. But you'll give yourself RSI in about 5 minutes, so it really ain't worth it man

silent osprey
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build arm/hand strength and dexterity

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dont need to get ripped or anything, but building some muscle and doing proper stretches gets you a long way as far as avoiding pain/damage

muted fiber
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Really? @silent osprey Have you benefitted from this exact scenario yourself?

silent osprey
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yes

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its not entirely preventative of course, but as long as your actual ergonomic situation isnt appalling, it's generally a good idea

muted fiber
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Understandable. Even perfect ergo hurts my forearm

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I'm hella sore atm from gaming. Taking a few rest days. Is it a bad idea to do a forearm workout today?

silent osprey
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mm if you're still sore, dont do it until you feel better at least

muted fiber
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Okay thank you

hollow vector
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build arm/hand strength and dexterity
@silent osprey Thanks for this, what kind of stretches do you do?

silent osprey
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uh

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i just freeball it because i have a good understanding of hand anatomy stuff

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i mostly had issues specifically with hand stiffness like a week ago, but prior to that it was just whatever i came up with

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better to look up some good exercises if you want broader stretch stuff

hollow vector
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It's been 4/5 hrs since then and i still feel a little sore on my upper arm. i tried kovaaks/aimlabs for about 20/25 minutes. I hope that it will heal later when i woke up. Anyway thanks again i will try research on stuff like that.

muted fiber
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@hollow vector When you say upper arm, do you mean around your bicep?

remote dagger
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hi, im having pain on my pinky and ring finger and spread to the forearm, im using a claw grip on the model o minus, this doesnt happen in the past when i used to play overwatch, i've only been experiencing this problem since i started aim training like 3 months ago and i thought the pain would just go away, but this thing is really killing me. Where should i put my pinky and ring finger on the mouse to avoid this kind of pain

mortal ledge
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your hand position might not be the issue @remote dagger as I imagine you've defaulted to what feels most comfortable with your hand shape and size. You probably haven't gone out of your way to distort your hand and cause these feelings

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I'd wager your issue probably stems from gripping too hard or just failing to warm up & stretch out your wrists/fingers

muted fiber
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I can second that. Read the convo above and you'll see me having the same issue. @azure dome Today I did a forearm workout light. Iced it a couple of times. Playing right now with REALLY light grip trying not to death grip and seems to be okay. My wrist still is puffy though

azure dome
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Nice job man i also did the workout again with 5kg olympic dumbells. Im feeling better but hell no fucking kovaak in the meantime. I had some good game after i aplied the aim style of n0thing https://youtu.be/PLvBQx1g1qA

I still feel a slight burn which started in yesterdays morning when i changed posture and let my elbow tuck in side and float. When i rest my elbow its so much better. Also i try to limit wrist motion as seen in the video! @cuttermy forearms are getting thick. I also did some chinups 3 sets of 8 for more bloodflow.

Another one of n0thing's rants.

www.twitch.tv/n0thingtv

I am aware that the video is quiet and I will make sure to amp the volume next time. Thanks for the feedback on the reddit post :)

▶ Play video
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Today i only feel little tingle

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@muted fiber

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And i do pushups during the day 3x20 reps or something alternating days

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And the grippers

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4x20 reps each hand

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Today a rest day yesterday i played like 5 games of csgo

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And stretching before in between and after sessions

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@hollow vector how arw you doing?

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Flexor or extensor pain?

muted fiber
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Haha fuck yeah man

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Sounds like we'll make it out of this

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I also removed my chair armrests so I can get closer to desk and higher

hollow vector
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@hollow vector When you say upper arm, do you mean around your bicep?
@muted fiber Yeah

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Flexor or extensor pain?
@azure dome idk extensor maybe

azure dome
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I have same

hollow vector
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@azure dome really? it is ok now?

azure dome
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Im managing it with training

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Levi vid

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And stretching

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And griptraining

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And posture corrextion

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And no kovaak

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I play some games of csgo

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Per day

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Instead of sick deathmatch fest and kovaak

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I fwlt.a burn and numbness

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Now i only feel a slight slight tingle

hollow vector
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What video?

muted fiber
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Honestly feel like the moral of the story is, either stop death gripping, or stop kovaaks

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Roshi Google dr Levi gaming stretches

hollow vector
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Is it the black dude?

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@muted fiber

muted fiber
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Yep

velvet viper
#

When im playing more stressful/competitive games, regardless of the temperature in the room, i get very very cold to the point where im shivering in my chair, and that doesn't exactly help with aiming

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anybody have this issue?

hollow vector
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Thanks. I will just a buy a new chair and fix may may posture and do stretching and all that. The chair i use rn is an old office chair medium size for me i got from my grandma. I'm 6'1 so its not covering my whole back and sometimes i get backpains too.

violet swan
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I get cold too

frank turtle
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why does my arm start hurting after doing kovaaks after 5-10 minutes? Is it just because im weak or does it have to do with my posture, I feel like my posture is good but idrk

quiet lark
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Sinuhe are you doing large movements during kovaaks?

frank turtle
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I do routines such as Air, Ground Plaza, PatTargetSwitch, etc. i guess those could be considered large movements, I also have a pretty low sens at 64cm/360

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Although I don't feel like it would be normal for your arm to be hurting after doing any sort of arm movement for 10 mins

quiet lark
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Where is it hurting?

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Is it fully your arm or one section?

frank turtle
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It starts around the tendon on my elbow and slowly moves up towards my arm, it is more of an ache than a sharp pain.

violet swan
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is it normal when my wrist goes up when going to the right during tracking scnearios

muted fiber
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@wraith wolf What's your opinion on chair arm rests? I just removed mine as I find they're so annoying and really doubt the benefit of their ergonomics

wraith wolf
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It just depends how you’re positioned at your desk as long as your arm/elbows are resting on the desk comfortably at 90 degrees you’re okay I don’t use my arm rests neither but my elbow is supported by my desk @muted fiber

muted fiber
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Do you still maintain straight back/proper ergo with elbows on desk? I have to lean in

wraith wolf
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I’m still able to lean back in my chair and sit straight up

muted fiber
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Will give it a go

wraith wolf
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I just scoot in

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awesome, let me know how you feel and if you were able to adjust

muted fiber
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Thanks will do!

wraith wolf
keen estuary
#

Salmon is full of Omega-3, a fatty acid known to be highly beneficial to the brain—Omega-3 provides more oxygen to the brain, and allows us to retain new information, while still remembering old information. The best fish to eat for brain health are salmon, tuna and herring.

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Would this mean that u can learn faster when u eat salmon

worthy cloud
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It means if you're not getting enough omegas your memory and learning ability can suffer

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And a salmon is a good source of omega 3

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I take supplements for omegas

wraith wolf
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well said, I also take some fish oil capsules it helps with inflammation too

worn sonnet
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I couldn't work out for a month because of my wisdom teeth removal, and right after that I got corona symptoms. I'm completely healthy now, I started working out again this week. I lost around 4 kilos, because I couldn't really eat. Measured my weight when I became healthy after 1 months of feeling bad, and measured it now, and I am 3 kilograms heavier (from 55.4 to 58.4) , and my body fat (probably not accurate, because this is just an electrical shock kinda scale or whatever it's called; from 7.4 to 8.4%) also increased. I know this should be natural. I was actively working out before the month I couldn't train. So my question would be what is a "good" muscle to fat gain ratio, and if it is even possible to gain 3 kilos in less than 2 weeks. (My body also looks a lot better right now than before I got my teeth removed)

worthy cloud
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3 kilo in under 2 weeks if you were under eating and probably dehydrated is reasonable

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you're probably not 8.4%, those scales can be very off sometimes

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gaining between 1 and 2 kg of fat per 1kg of muscle is reasonable

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maybe more if you're coming back from time off

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@worn sonnet

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the quickest gains you'll ever make are coming back from time off

worn sonnet
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Yeah, I came back after having 1 month off

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And before that I was working out quite a lot

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Thank you for the quick answer

worthy cloud
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also the ratio of lean mass to fat that you gain while bulking is usually related to how quickly you're bulking

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the higher your caloric surplus is the more fat you will gain

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but also the more muscle you can gain

violet swan
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should i drink milk to help learn faster?

worthy cloud
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I think milk is a good source of omegas I guess

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I've seen some with added omegas somewhere too

mellow turret
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Yeah and studies have shown that people drink milk do better academically, so I think it helps with your overall brain health

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In terms of learning better aim I'm not sure. I think drinking more water would be more helpful

worthy cloud
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milk is good for hydration as well

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just be careful of the fat and calories

mellow turret
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Yeah true don't use it as a substitute for water

violet swan
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i mean i just drink 1 glass

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of warm milk

worthy cloud
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that's fine

mellow turret
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So uh my question might be more difficult to answer... I was doing really well in aim training and updated most of the scores to diamond, but after I took a 30 min dinner break I could feel my aim is off. After dinner is around the time my prescribed Adderall wears off. What does that mean in terms of my improvement? Am I actually improving or am I just performing better bc of drugs?

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Cause so far the only thing I notice after taking Adderall is nausea lol. I just hope I don't have to take medicine to get to the next level

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Kinda weird long and specific so anything is much appreciated :D

worthy cloud
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It's complicated, I was actually prescribed adderall in university too, haven't used it in a couple years though

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I do think you're improving even though you're on it

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But once it wears off you're burned out

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Probably best to discuss any concerns with your doctor

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I used to take less than the amount I was prescribed and only when I had a really rough day ahead, trying to not rely on it

mellow turret
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I told my doctor he just told me to keep taking it which is sketch

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Feeling nausea for 3 days straight

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Probably gonna take it with food and see if that makes a difference

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Thanks though. Really hope that I don't need to rely on meds. I was so happy that I am improving quickly then the realization hit me hard and made me kinda depressed. This helped a lot

azure dome
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Dont use it

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Adderal

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Not for gaming at least...

muted fiber
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@azure dome So I continued playing and not resting. But being really careful and grabbing the mouse super soft. Got really painful so just stopped and iced it. I'm going out drinking the next couple of days so I'll use that as wrist rest

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Really hard to heal the damage though with a bloody desk job :((((

azure dome
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Fucked up man..

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I also game on but also feel a slight tingle still. I did some very light grip work and i started incorperating this excersize. Ill complement my training with this: 3x30 sec hangs 45 degree 1 handed each 3x30. https://youtu.be/7kTNk3qEuLM

All gains, no pains - http://athleanx.com/x/my-workouts
Subscribe to this channel here - http://bit.ly/2b0coMW

If you experience elbow pain when you work out then you need to watch this. In this video, I’m going to show you not only the real cause of the pain and discomfort ...

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See where it leads me

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Think i have this

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Generally, people think to ice their ailments to relieve the pain. However, ice relieves inflammation, and as previously discussed, inflammation is not the cause of pain.
Therefore, ice would not help this condition. In fact, icing the affected area may prolong the healing process.

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Heating the area increases blood flow, thereby increasing oxygen and nutrients needed for recovery. For an overuse tendinosis, heat is more helpful than ice.

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@muted fiber

muted fiber
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Damn. So you're saying don't ice it. I'll heat pack it then

muted fiber
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Apparently it's best to ice it for the initial 3 days, then heat thereafter for tendinitis

mellow turret
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@worthy cloud performed the same without Adderall today, so I'm glad that my performance isn't completely based on it

worthy cloud
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Nice

mellow turret
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Still have the nausea though rip

worthy cloud
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Eat more

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Drink more water

mellow turret
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True

worthy cloud
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Take it with breakfast, never empty stomach

mellow turret
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I'm drinking a lot water just isn't eating nor feel hungry

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Well I didn't even take it today

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Probably gonna wait til the weekend and test things out still got some coding hw and headaches are not really good friends with hw

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But yeah I will take it with more food, thanks for the advice

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Really appreciate it

violet swan
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is it bad to get jacked af before playing

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coz like im built

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and like

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i dont wanna lift too much before i play

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like im talking 200kg benching

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no spotter

worthy cloud
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I only run into issues if I play immediately after grip and forearm training

candid rose
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after playing for a few days i can feel my finger tendons in my right hand being kinds sore from tension

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i have an electric hand warmer, would it help to heat treat? or just relax for a day

versed quiver
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Is nofap good for aim

violet swan
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bruh

tardy bronze
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recently started fundamental aim routines, takes me like 1:30hr and around the same time i noticed relative weakness in my aiming arm, my mouse grip kinda loosened and my aim overall dipped. and im not sure if this started before the routines or after but what could i be experiencing?

left glade
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how does it take 90 min for a 60 min run

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also, what

tardy bronze
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i do a bit more of other tasks too

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my right hand feels a bit weaker than my left one, grip wise.

violet swan
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how would you know both hand?

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@tardy bronze you're thinking too much, give it atleast two weeks before forming any thought

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aim training is literally just what you do in-game, but more

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so if you had no problem in-game, this shouldn't have anything weird

tardy bronze
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my mouse control ingame has definetely changed, its loosened

violet swan
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probably tired

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how hard are you gripping the mouse?

tardy bronze
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i thought of the same thing but maybe other precautions i could take. i use primarily wrist aim and low sens.
i grip it kinda firmly, not too much

violet swan
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@tardy bronze try to keep it as relaxed as you can for now, we subconsciously use more strength then we feel, so consciously try to loosen your grip to counter it. See if the problem keeps going.

tardy bronze
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loosening it messes with my aim, so i guess i have to adapt to this grip, maybe decrease my sens too

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@violet swan thank you for the response

violet swan
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Lately i've been having forearm pain, probably the radial nerve i can feel it aching almost all the time and it gets worse if i rotate my hand forward and backward

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it came after i played vox TS for like 10 mins and tensed too much

left glade
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It goes away. You probably dont use those muscles much

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@tardy bronze I think you're holding ur mouse too hard. A good way to test is binding m1 (shoot) to space bar. If your hand doesn't hurt as much after it means you are gripping too tight

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That's all I can think of

hasty granite
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hey guys I get a lot of tension in my hand from tracking for more than 1 min, usually have to take a 30 second rest which makes me a bit shaky. I stretch at the end of the day and do a lot of grip exercises at the gym. is there anything I can do, I feel like I have a lot of tension in my hands.

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i started using spacebar today to see if that can help with the tension

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probably good to mention I only feel this when im in Kovaaks and not in my main game

gray osprey
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are these eye exercises legitimate?

muted fiber
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@hasty granite Everything exact same thing as you. Do you death grip?

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@gray osprey Just clickbait. Use glasses/blue light glasses if you wanna help your eyes imo

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@azure dome I had a friend ask their physio about my forearm/wrist pains. They advised I immediately stop gaming/using the mouse at all and to go see a physio. I will do that and let you know. Apparently only they can diagnose exactly what to train to fix the issue, as Google searches is a dangerous path which can mislead you down more damage. Id suggest you do the same if you can, don't want this becoming permanent

gray osprey
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@muted fiber do u have any evidence other than speculation? the video was recommended by this guy (who is not necessarily credible either): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRDtU1PQ8Eg

I trained my eyes for ONE WEEK! Did it help my aim? (Aim Guide)

In this video I talk about eye training in video games. I go through four exercises everyday before getting on and give you an in-depth look on how they helped me and what they are all about, what they have to offer, and show my progress from before and after the video. If you stru...

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i have used that video and experienced the benefit of curing dry-groggy morning eyes

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and that is about it

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well

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i experienced more than that but could have been placebo

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he claims he experienced improvement after consistently using but he as well could have just been making a clickbait video

muted fiber
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@gray osprey I studied science for a year in college, so I'm more likely to believe more credible sources such as articles/studies. YouTube videos are often unreferenced and opinion based from the YouTuber making it (which could be someone no more knowledgeable than you or I). My second point is, usually videos that have stupid images like the eyeball one getting brighter or this guy's laser eye beams are to make people click it.

What you're describing sounds like a placebo of an improvement from your eyes being tired just from the morning as opposed to your standard vision baseline

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His anecdotal experience for his own video is questionable as a source. But feel free to try it out and see how it performs

gray osprey
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i have; and as i said i did experience some minor benefits, but that also could have been from taking a short break from the screen and drinking water while i did those exercises

muted fiber
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Agreed. Just a heads up really

gray osprey
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if anyone else could provide their opinions as well, would be appreciated!

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@muted fiber do u know of any eye exercises that are legitimate?

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i used to take breaks and go outside and look at something far away for ten minutes

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that seemed to help

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but it could be as simple as just taking a break

muted fiber
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Good question. No exercises persay, but taking breaks every 20 minutes and drinking water is a huge one. Also keeping at a healthy distance from the screen and having appropriate room lighting make a huge difference

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Sounds like you already got the main bits down pat man :)

gray osprey
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lol

muted fiber
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Those computer glasses though are a good. Even with perfect vision, they make everything more crisp so you don't lean in and stuff

gray osprey
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got any recommendations on any particular glasses?

muted fiber
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What country you from? In Aus if you have health insurance you can get them free from your optometrist, they're the best ones

gray osprey
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US

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i could take a look into what medicade might provide

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but i doubt it

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america lul

muted fiber
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Americans have it tough man :(

gray osprey
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yes my college experience has been a painful debt experience

muted fiber
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Yeah unlikely dude. Best off with a pre-made set then online

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Gosh

gray osprey
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we will make college cost 50 grand for people who do not have jobs yet

muted fiber
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Exactly. And when you do get employed it won't be exactly amazing pay either

gray osprey
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except that im in the computer science field ;D

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its whatever

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planning to bail to canada anyway

muted fiber
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Oh haha that's good then, not too bad

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Canada apparently is like Aus

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Good move 😂

paper pine
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Is it safe to play games if I have tennis elbow?

wintry pond
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Dose anyone know how much water is to much?

violet swan
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is it normal to raise my wrist while moving my arm to the right?

wintry pond
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Do you aim with your wrist,arm or both?

violet swan
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both

uncut nexus
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Just drink until you’re not thirsty

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No specific amount is necessary

wintry pond
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I think it might be normal, not sure

gray osprey
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@worthy cloud how much of an effect do u think working out has on ur ability to improve aiming

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and also why did i shred through my high scores today from 2 bangs despite having a weeks worth of rust

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why human body weird

lethal cloak
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ahh idk if this is the spot to ask but anyone got tips for getting rid o a lisp im sick of people calling me out on it.

gray osprey
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@lethal cloak i used to have a lisp. try closing your teeth all the way when u pronounce an S

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u gotta think real hard about it at first but if u keep it up its just "muscle memory" (?) at that point

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just gotta learn it

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i only had a minor lisp but it was apparent enough that i got called out for it a lot too by my friends

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and im lucky enough to have good friends that would kindly point it out any time i fucked up so i could keep focus on it

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so if u got a buddy just let him know

violet swan
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anyone got a recommended caliesthenics workout?

low rampart
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Hey, can my elbow being not rested (floating) cause problems?

marble venture
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@low rampart if your elbow is floating you're something else

upper folio
violet swan
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I have not

dusky agate
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Hi ! I just found a problem which i have. When i do 'microtracking', my hand shake and i can't aim proprelly, it is normal ? Should i do something ? There is a solution ?

static ocean
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yh that means u have parkinsons unlucky

dusky agate
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Fuck x)

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I meant i can't be smooth as a big movement

violet swan
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how important is it to wake up inbetween sleep cycles

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like if i go to sleep rn do i get 7 and a half hour of sleep and wake up inbetween cycles or do i sleep 8 and a half and wake up in the middle of one

silent osprey
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mm disturbing ur deep sleep kinda sucks

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you'll feel shit when you wake up and i tend to find i just feel way more tired and lethargic through the day

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try and let urself wake up naturally if possible

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back when i had a schedule to adhere to i did stuff like have lights gradually turn on at X time to wake me up less abruptly

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i think alarms kinda suck

wraith wolf
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yeah, theres like an alarm that mimics a sunrise let me see if i can find it

violet swan
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looks very weird

opal kernel
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I thought that was something very different

wraith wolf
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no, its called the Philips Somneo HF3650 Wake-up light - Shiny White

violet swan
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Iced cold shower when it’s almost 0 outside healthy?

magic aurora
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[Post redacted]
While this is technically not against the rules, and I am indeed interested in this as a topic, I just need to quickly preface as if it wasn't clear: We do NOT ADVOCATE the use of any addictive substances, especially in un-professional or un-educated circumstances. Please generally refrain from openly suggesting such substances in the future.

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Is nicotine commonly used as a nootropic?

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I've not heard of this before, likely for decent reasoning.

muted fiber
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Idk fam. Even if there was a benefit to it. With all the well studied negative life effects of nicotine, is it really worth it? I've lost family from nicotine, just can't see it ever being worth it. Ofc you do you though

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@azure dome Stopped playing games + kovaaks completely. Forearm/wrist still in pain. Going to see a physio this week. This isn't good.

I really feel like kovaaks needs to highlight the dangers of aim training in their game/app. Just using it has pote tially put me at risk of unemployment if this problem turns out chronic

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Not blaming anyone but myself. But a little education and warning on using kovaaks before you start (without having to dig into Reddit/discord) would save a lot of people some serious pain

mortal ledge
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Probably not a bad idea

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In the same way Valorant warns about the issues it may cause for people prone to epileptic(?) fits, a small message when opening the game at least recommending stretches or something might not hurt

azure dome
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@muted fiber gl man i stopped kovaak

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Im feeling better now

mortal ledge
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Also, I don't know what your particular issue is Cutter, but, in my personal experience, weight training worked WONDERS for wrist and hand pain I was experiencing

azure dome
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Training with dumbells and tue stretches

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I played 10 games today

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Csgo