health

[rich ore]

Well, if u took it for the gym you’d still get improved long term blood flow to the brain, given that u exercise

Take ur citruline 👍

[rose vale]

Geez bro 😭

I was just lookin for the most effective ones but not that many

Unless it’s all in powder form or something

[rich ore]

up to you to choose

they all have different uses

along with benefits

[unborn herald]

eating on mousepad ❌
spreading citrulline all over your mousepad ✅

[rich ore]

I'd rather supplement something I know I have a problem with, rather than just take whats recommended

[rose vale]

I heard tyrosine was kinda like a mental booster

[unborn herald]

are you vegan

[rose vale]

I get heavily mentally fatigued after like 1 game

[rich ore]

U could get tyrosine easily from like meat or eggs

[rose vale]

Yea true

[rich ore]

1 egg is like 30% rdi

[rose vale]

Dam

[rich ore]

though I can't argue of how much u actually pick up

[unborn herald]

do you adrenaline dump first game or

[rose vale]

Idk I still don’t think it’ll make a difference for me

I’ve ate a healthier diet before gaming I didn’t really feel a difference

[rose vale]

Idk probably?

I just get exhausted so quickly

I can’t focus on multiple things at a time, I forget really easily, and I get tired really fast

[unborn herald]

sounds like depression honestly

[valid girder]

is brodie getting enough sleep?

[rich ore]

could be so many things

[valid girder]

fr

[stable rain]

For supplements etc just get your bloodwork done and talk with your doctor

[rich ore]

perhaps you're just tired?

do u have alot going on in life and don't get the time to rest in between

its getting quite normal for people to always be exhausted since their brain is always getting rushes and few breaks

scrolling social media between activities etc

[rich ore]

I always used to struggle with energy/mental when I was younger, until I watched a video on youtube that explained the correlation between your habits and energy

[stable rain]

Most people also neglect their sleep and don't get enough

[rich ore]

I felt better when I cut reels out of my life

these days I just sit in silence at my work place on breaks

and see others doomscrolling tiktok

[stable rain]

Ye recently i watched a vid about reels too and now i try the same

At this point i dont see a reason to have social media anymore tbh

[rich ore]

there isn't any reason

I always feel the best when I have no social media besides youtube installed

yet somehow I keep redownloading and downloading them

I think youtube is good tbh

so long u watch the right things

unlike where u have an algorythm pushing clutter to keep you on the app

[rose vale]

Uhhh I try to get 6 cycles but my body doesn’t let me sleep the full amount

[stable rain]

Because you wake up at night or what?

[rose vale]

Nah just like an hour or 2 before the alarm and it’s just on and off

[rich ore]

do u wake up energized or tired

[rose vale]

Always tired

But I can’t tell if it’s a depression thing or just a sleep disorder or what

I feel fine, just fatigued

[rich ore]

it might be something disrupting your sleep then

there is no surrounding noise?

its unnatural to wake up with less hours slept and still be tired

if u woke up energized, it'd be another story

U could be stressed

[stable rain]

Always try to have a relatively cold room and don't eat anything for one or two hours before going to bed, maybe even put your cell phone away because of the blue light

And ofc the room has to be dark etc

[rich ore]

the sun shines right into my window every morning

so i bought black-out curtains

made a night and day difference

[stable rain]

Thats nice i always put my roller shutter down

i guess a normal sleep mask would do the job too if you want a budget friendly solution

[valid girder]

🗿

wow

sounds like pain

[rose vale]

nah

I try to make sure its dark

quiet

cold

around 67 f

I turn on night mode on everything

[valid girder]

how much is thhat in celsius

[rich ore]

19

[valid girder]

19 damn

[rose vale]

19.5

about ye

I heard the body sleeps better in 60-67f

[rich ore]

yup

[rose vale]

15.5 to 19.4 c

[rich ore]

below body temperature atleast

[valid girder]

welp too bad for me who lives up north in europe 💀

[rich ore]

I be sleeping in -10 or worse at winter

with the window open

[valid girder]

bro what

[stable rain]

I have the luck that i can almost sleep at every temp in my room

[rich ore]

I live in sweden myself

[valid girder]

im from the very north of norway

[rich ore]

svalbard?

xd

[valid girder]

💀

shushh

who thhe fuck lives in svalbard bro

[rich ore]

do they even have internet

lets be real

[valid girder]

probably not

[rich ore]

I love going to sleep at negative temperatures

[valid girder]

i dont

[rich ore]

then waking up with an aching nose

xd

[valid girder]

that sounds

like hell

[unborn herald]

@rose vale get bloodwork. It's boring but for mystery health issues there's not much else to do

[rich ore]

feels like low iron levels

[valid girder]

whar

[unborn herald]

nice psychic abilities

[rose vale]

I already have

[rich ore]

he could have developing anemia

probably why

[rose vale]

I had a vitamin d deficiency and started taking pills but I'm over the norm now

nothing else was low

[rich ore]

if u dont have any diseases, its most likely habits

eat, rest, exercise

[rose vale]

I have depression I've been on and off medication

but I wouldn't say I'm like sad

just fatigued, sometimes unmotivated and I am putting everything off last second

[unborn herald]

yeah depression isn't really about sadness idk why it gets talked about like that

[rose vale]

yea idk

[rich ore]

well, you're most likely not happy if ur depressed

[rose vale]

I used to be severely depressed

[unborn herald]

do you have to get a 1 up on everything

[rose vale]

idk once I stopped going to school and got a gf everything has been fine for me

starting college soon tho

[rich ore]

reminds me of ur original reply

[rose vale]

school was very terrible for my mental health

[unborn herald]

completely disagreeing with something is not a pointless 1 up over something

[rich ore]

completely disagreeing

[rose vale]

it can go both ways

[rich ore]

I literally disagreed to what ur saying

[unborn herald]

no you didn't

[valid girder]

eh

now, now

[rose vale]

😭

yall

[unborn herald]

sadness is correlated with depressiong
depression is correlated with not being happy

doesn't mean that either of those are the same thing

[rich ore]

"depression isn't really about sadness"

[unborn herald]

look at how depression is measured in animals

[valid girder]

Lets just let them have it to be honest lmao

[unborn herald]

that's the objective biological definition

[rich ore]

'isn't really' is putting it a bit off no

[unborn herald]

you could be completely stoic but still suffer from underlying depression that lessens your energy

[rose vale]

🫃

[rose vale]

true

but most of the time, I feel likw having no motivation and being tired all the time does cause a bit of sadness

[rich ore]

depression is a collective term for one of many things

[unborn herald]

you are not very smart

only thing that's worth referring to here as depression is the biological definition of depression

which is your body and subconscious mind perceiving the environemt to be in a state where it's not worth expending energy

[rich ore]

thats not what depression is though

i don't see how ur calling my less smart for saying the truth

depression IS a collective term for one of many things

Ur being to blunt disregarding psychological and social factors

[unborn herald]

the objective biological definition of depression is the actual behavioral patterns that can be resulting from psychological or social factors

but the behavioral patterns are what defines depression

not what causes it

[rich ore]

primary fallacy

[unborn herald]

if you want to talk about depression resulting from sadness or grief just say melancholy

[rich ore]

ur confusing behavioral patterns with societal/physcological outcomes

[unborn herald]

you can be depressed without being sad, therefore depression isn't really about sadness

[rich ore]

and u can be sad and depressed

?

u can be happy being depressed

[unborn herald]

are you deadass

[valid girder]

i can see that

not to get involved or anything

theres been time where i've been happy but still depressed at the same time

welp that shut

down quickly

[unborn herald]

don't worry eddie is just slow typing on phone

[rich ore]

if u think biological factors include social withdrawl, lack of motivation or sleep disturbances u are behind

please explain that to me

[rose vale]

I wanna get tested for ADHD but my parents said "I know you don’t have it"

[unborn herald]

are you sure you phrased this correctly

[valid girder]

normal parent behaviour

[unborn herald]

the thing was that risingddm said he used to be depressed but isn't sad anymore, but he clearly still symptoms of depression, just without the sadness. And then you replied to that with some nonsense about depression really being about sadness? ?

[unborn herald]

Obviously social withdrawal, anhedonia and sleep disturbances are biological, these are literally measured in animals as well to study depression

What do you mean "u are behind"

[rich ore]

ur saying that behavioral symptoms help us recognize depression, but the're not its biological defintion

[unborn herald]

Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

[rose vale]

Idk I feel like I have a lot of the symptoms, zoning out when being talked too, poor organization, forgetful, I used to talk excessively when I was a kid but stopped doing that, say an answer before a sentence was completed, struggles to wait my turn in conversation, I struggle with focus, or I focus so hard on something (like in a game) I can’t hear people talking to me or in game audio cues

[rich ore]

?

[unborn herald]

what do you think the biological definition of depression is and why it isn't behavioral

[rich ore]

the biological definition is what happens inside the body

[unborn herald]

It's possible you have both ADHD and depression but you should focus on fixing depression until you are full of eneregy and if you still can't focus then get ADHD diagnosis

[rose vale]

Yea idk

I’m trying lol

Been on different medications for like 4 years now?

[valid girder]

good luck fam

[unborn herald]

Are you sure you aren't thinking of the neurological definition, because biology literally does study behavior as well inside the body.

[rose vale]

This one has felt the best, but it’s more leaned to anxiety and adhd

[rich ore]

U get signs of B, doesn't mean its "B"

[unborn herald]

Medications can only do so much. As I said depression is fundamentally about how the body and subconscious perceives the environment in a way that makes it feel that it won't be worth using energy and you really have to either change environment or change how you perceive it

[unborn herald]

genuinely, what are you talking about

[rose vale]

Idk I’ve changed a lot

Outside of medication

[unborn herald]

Honestly the world is shit and controlled by demonic forces. It makes sense that people are depressed but there just has to be some way of fighting back

[rich ore]

I'm not saying that it's really about sadness, it's a mixture of things, which is why its a collective term for different symptoms

ur saying that it's not

about sadness

which is wrong

[unborn herald]

if depression is necessarily about sadness then why can people be depressed without being sad

[rich ore]

depression isn't just sadness, its a part of it

its a collective of symptoms

which is why its a collective term

[unborn herald]

say on everything you aren't ragebaiting at this point

[rich ore]

brother

its a COLLECTIVE TERM

U may not have it, u dont need to have it

some people do, some dont

thats why its a COLLECTIVE TERM

[unborn herald]

I think you are struggling with reading comprehension

[rich ore]

what did I not read

[unborn herald]

apparently nothing

[rich ore]

Perhaps ur writing just sucks

u say depression isn't about sadness which is factually wrong

[unborn herald]

psychology isn't a real science so why would use it's definition of depression over the biological one lol

[rich ore]

thats dismissive no

[unborn herald]

I happily dismiss psychology when it's phenomena can be nicely described by actual science like biology

[rich ore]

too bad biology alone can't define depression

[unborn herald]

It can perfectly.

[rich ore]

so ur saying depression is fixable by treating the brain chemistry without overlooking psychological and or social factors too

no medication can fix the psychology of someone that's about to take their life

thats like trying to upgrade ur hardware but using shit software

doesn't make sense does it

[unborn herald]

That's not what I'm saying. Also do you know what a definition is

Having a definition for something doesn't mean you claim to know how to treat it as well. And psychology hasn't exactly figured out how to fix depression either

[rich ore]

so who are u to rely on biology

and dismiss everything else

[unborn herald]

what am I dismissing here exactly

[rich ore]

that psychological and societal matters are dismissed when using biology

[unborn herald]

wha

[rich ore]

biology can't explain psychology to its utmost meaning

"I happily dismiss psychology when it's phenomena can be nicely described by actual science like biology"

[unborn herald]

Talking about the definition of depression here

[rich ore]

depression has multiple definitions

it all depends on the context/perspective

[unborn herald]

the biological definition both the most precise and general so it's the one that should be used....

[rich ore]

it doesnt capture the full experience though

U can't rely on one and dismiss the other factors

u have to look at it as a whole

[unborn herald]

are you serious

[rich ore]

depression is complex for a reason

[unborn herald]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/definition

[rich ore]

they're all different factors, u don't just rule out other factors because one is stronger than the others

[unborn herald]

I'm genuinely confused about what you are tring to prove with this because all I said that the guy should continue focusing treating his depression even he isn't feeling sadness anymore

And you are just on and on about how depression can't be talked about without the whole experience of it or something

[rich ore]

the point i'm striking is that "depression isn't about sadness"

[unborn herald]

you forgot the really

sadness is not essential to depression

you can be depressed without being sad

depression still has to be treated even if you aren't feeling sadness

[rich ore]

nothing is essential to depression

thats the problem

[unborn herald]

The essential feature of depression is a lack of willingness to expend energy. Literally any psychological definition you can come up with will fall under that category, yet you can feel lack of energy to do anything without feelign sad. Lack of willingness to expend energy is essential to depression, sadness isn't.

And by lack of will I don't mean just subjectively. It's the entire body going into a type of hibernation even.

This is pretty straight forward is it not? Why are you genuinely being so difficult about this

[rich ore]

it's a feature, a symptom

its a collective symptom of depression

still

[unborn herald]

it's the universal symptom in all cases and definitions of depression

[rich ore]

it's common but not always universal

[unborn herald]

that's how depression is defined in biology

literally

it's how depression is studied in animal models

[rich ore]

depression involves emotions and behaviors that biology can't explain

[unborn herald]

that's melancholy not depression

[rich ore]

depression covers a wider range of symptoms

beyond "lack of willingness to expend energy"

[unborn herald]

What I'm telling you is the scientific consensus. And I feel like getting the definition of depression correct is really important so I think it's worth getting right.

[wicked haven]

thats pre workout this has like 90

[rich ore]

I agree with u on the scientific consensus though, my point is that depression is complex and multi-faced so relying on just one core symptom doesn’t fully capture the wide range of experiences people have with it.

[unborn herald]

read the convo from the start and look at how you are constantly changing what are you talking about

please

[rich ore]

all you're saying is that depression is one sided and that depression is defined by a lack luster of symptoms otherwise its considered melancholy (which is an outdated term in comparison to depression, since depression is now expanding into a wider form of different symptoms). U have to look at it from a wider thought outside of what biology or science can produce as its no longer the common ground for science itself. U refuse to believe that psychology is a science and u dismiss psychological factors when accounting to depression

I've been saying the same thing over and over again

[unborn herald]

That is not what I was saying at any point and you might genuinely have reading comprehension issues.

[rich ore]

Depression is complex and can't just be looked from a science point of view

[rich ore]

which part?

[unborn herald]

The scientific definition is the base that you can start building from.

[unborn herald]

all of it

[unborn herald]

By certain psychological definitions you need sadness to be depressed. What I'm saying is that there is a core symptom of depression that defines it, and then you can start looking at other factors

[rich ore]

by certain

what is a psychological definition

?

[unborn herald]

definition used by psychologists

[rich ore]

and within depression it focuses on a persons thoughts, emotions and behaviors

U can't just overlook those, biology can't explain all emotions either

[unborn herald]

that's not what is being claimed

you either can't read or you are ragebaiting

[rich ore]

so how in the world can biologic science be used as a standpoint

[unborn herald]

I genuinely care about healing depression and think if people understand it and can spread that understanding the world can become a better place and I tried my goddamn hardest to explain to you but Im just done.

Please just review what I have already said. If you have a question that isn't a repeat of what you have said I will answer.

[rich ore]

half of said things you've said just represents fallacy

either you're wording things wrongfully or u have no idea what you're saying

[unborn herald]

.

[unborn herald]

.

[rich ore]

I never said u NEED to be sad if you're depressed

thats just a narrow interpretation of depression

[unborn herald]

.

[rich ore]

ur using a narrow interpretation as THE defintion of depression

thats a fallacy itself

[unborn herald]

as a fun exercise try to come with a definition for depression that is incopatible with mine

[rich ore]

Dont even need a definition

emotional detachment and lack of anhedonia production proves ur definition a fallacy

[unborn herald]

what does "lack of anhedonia production" mean

[rich ore]

google is free

[unborn herald]

fairly sure you were the first person to type that phrase

[rich ore]

it correlates with ur point to only a specific

"lack of willingness to expend energy"

[unborn herald]

normally emotions direct you to do something, the detachment from emotinos plays into the inhibition of energy expenditure because the normal behavioral responses to the emotions aren't happening

[unborn herald]

yeah but "anhedonia production"

Also yeah literally in anhedonic conditions the things that would normally stimulate you to expend energy don't effect you anymore.

[rich ore]

U don't need to feel emotions to want to do things though

so if u have anhedonia you normally still would want to do things, just not as many

[unborn herald]

Yes smartass that's the point, not as many.

[rich ore]

so ur ultimately still wanting to expend energy

just on other things

[unborn herald]

No.

[unborn herald]

obviously with 0 energy expenditure you'd be dead 🙂

[rich ore]

an anhedonic person uses the same amount of energy as a normal person, just in other areas that don't require emotional reward

and they'd still have the want to do less things

[unborn herald]

you are literally just saying whatever shit to disagree with 0 regard to literature

You won. Fucking genius ragebait

[rich ore]

😂

[rich ore]

I agree with you, I just tried using an ai application against it

its called cluely

I get paid, don't take it personal

[stable rain]

You made him quit or something 💀

[rose vale]

LOL

shit went on for like 2 hours

[white cipher]

yoo this hurts so much is that normal

[sleek flower]

Anyone know any stretches that target the muscles in the thighs? Started band camp a couple days ago and spent basically a total of 14 hours between two days straining and working my legs so walking doesn't feel so great. Would highly appreciate it

[white cipher]

how does he even do that

[sleek flower]

Do what? Just bend his wrist down?

[silent gyro]

idk if id bend my wrist down that much it would break off

[white cipher]

with a closed fist yea

[sleek flower]

I guess it's just from years and years of stretching

There's a reason he's a coach

[celest estuary]

you guys are braindead and subsequently should be exeecuted

glory to the DPRK

[torn crescent]

guys my arm is paralyzed from aim training is that bad

@tranquil sand help me out

[iron fractal]

can u elaborate?

[torn crescent]

@ornate dragon please help

[latent arrow]

the part between the index and middle finger knuckle is hurting whenever I play Aimlabs.

Any idea on what it is and what I can do to alleviate the pain?

[torn crescent]

@tough crow please help

[tough crow]

Put it in ice

[torn crescent]

@somber fable please

[torn crescent]

oh ok

[tough crow]

Hope it helps

If you turn it off and on again

That works too

Maybe factory reset it

If first 2 don't work

[torn crescent]

i tried factory reset already brooooo

[somber fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1285343762700308553/1302445949351886928/sigma.gif

[tough crow]

You didn't do it right

[torn crescent]

oh

[uneven ivy]

Your parents probably have it too then and are coping

[south geyser]

when aiming is my wrist supposed to rest on the pad or arch slightly, mine is raised quite a bit

[tranquil sand]

Dead ass I got you

What does it feel like?

Is it in pain when you move it in a particular direction

Does it feel like there’s constantly too much tension

[uneven ivy]

Just exercise and use the most comfortable position

[jaunty pilot]

That's a good thing

[lone lily]

i have same here hurts so much after i changed my sens from 0.51 to 0.59 as a 400dpi and played a dm after i tried bunch of senses it sucks this hurt feeling i got ice bt i wanna learn how to fix or i shouldnt play for a couple days

[sacred kelp]

im starting to develop a bit of pain in my wrist on the palm side, its pretty new, seems to be worse after sleeping. Only on my aiming hand

[lone lily]

oh shit

[sacred kelp]

im like 90% sure I just slept on it wrong one night, but what if it was carpal tunnel or some shit 😭

[lone lily]

i hope u did sleep on it

[sacred kelp]

google made it sound like De Quervain's tenosynovitis, but I dont have pain when I make a fist or anything, so its probably just a minor strain

[hasty stag]

i think you're dying

[sacred kelp]

you wish I was dying, completely different 😌

Love you Arsong ❤️

[uneven ivy]

less tension, more stretching and exercise

[willow fox]

alot of pain here

while writing and gripping the mouse

hello?

[hasty stag]

hi

[willow fox]

HELP

[hasty stag]

probably just deathgripping the mouse

hold the moose lighter

[willow fox]

well if i dont deathgrip it i reset to a palm grip in sum seconds

;-;

from a claw

[hasty stag]

skill issue

does your hand slip?

or how does that work

[willow fox]

my fingers just slowly slip downwards back into a palm grip

without tension keeping them in claw

[hasty stag]

buy grip tape

or mouse with good coating

[willow fox]

im using a g502 its too heavy for a claw in the first place

and why am i using it

I NEED BUTTONS

[hasty stag]

might wanna get a new mouse for fps then

[willow fox]

i have other mouses

but this one has 5 buttons to work with

other have 2

[hasty stag]

u dont need more for fps

[rose vale]

nah I don't think so, I think they just see kids with adhd and go "you act nothing like that" in their heads, but ADHD can differ alot between people

[uneven ivy]

I don't think any of you know what ADHD is. See a doctor that specializes in it

[rose vale]

Yep I’m trying

[terse copper]

no one knows what adhd is

my teammates said i had adhd because i was overpeeking

[uneven ivy]

ADHD is actually pretty obvious when you know the symptoms

Lack of impulse control and executive function

[terse copper]

whats executive function

[uneven ivy]

The ability to order yourself, e.g. get out of bed, do chores, do your homework

[terse copper]

oh

[rose vale]

Felt

Idk if putting everything off or forgetting easily are common symptoms

[uneven ivy]

yeah

Dr Russell Barkley on youtube has done his lifework on this

if you want a good source

[rose vale]

That’s probably the biggest problems I have

Especially in game, I forget easily or I get so hyper focused on 1 thing, I am not aware of literally anything around me

Like people yelling in my ear lol

[uneven ivy]

Sounds like the meds will be an easy fix then

[uneven ivy]

bless you

[rose vale]

I hope I find what works, I’ve been on and off so many

This one has felt the best, and it’s leaned towards anxiety and adhd

Actually I could be wrong, I think it’s bupropion

[uneven ivy]

For ADHD, it's either methylphenidate or amphetamine based medication

[rose vale]

I’m not like diagnosed so I don’t think I can actually take those

Trying to figure out someone I could see tho

[uneven ivy]

I know a lot of ADHD people who use that alongside ADHD medication

[uneven ivy]

Yes, they're legally considered the same as street amphetamine, so you'd need a diagnosis and prescription

[rose vale]

I definitely feel better on it, but I still have a lot of fatigue issues and other symptoms

[uneven ivy]

Dr Russel Barkley is the ADHD goat tbh

check his videos/lectures on youtube

[rose vale]

I will, thanks

I love scams

[white cipher]

It's because of that damn phone

[silk ember]

after aimlabsing a bit my eyes die and my biceps die

how fix ???

i dont care about pain but its affecting my accuracy and scores...

[delicate quartz]

Hello

So when I play on my pc

And put my hands on the desk

My delts and shoulders hurt

Ive never had this problem

It started happening like few days ago

[delicate quartz]

Holy fuck man

I cant even aimtrain

I cant play more than 30 minutes

[hasty stag]

take a break broski

[delicate quartz]

I barely play broo

Im on my pc like 2 or 3 hours a day

[uneven ivy]

Look out the window as far as you can or go outside

[rose vale]

How do your biceps die? Do you like workout too much or something

20-20-20 rule, every 20 minutes look at something 20 feet away for 20 seconds

[tired grail]

hello it's been a few days that my little finger + a part of my palm is painful and tingling ive read on google that this could be cubital tunnel syndrome do u guys have any specific stretch i could do to help

i should probably rest also but the thing is that i don't play that much so i don't even know why i got that in the 1st place

and if i should do complete rest like not use my arm at all how long it should be

[uneven ivy]

do stretches and see if it gets better

[tired grail]

which kind of stretches exactly

i was thinking of doing this https://bit.ly/wristandpostureguide

[silk ember]

wow free money!

😭

[tranquil sand]

get off

[honest matrix]

@sage isle

[versed delta]

@sage isle

[silk ember]

@sage isle

[plain hemlock]

why is evryone tagging viet

[rich ore]

Minions

[honest matrix]

@sage isle

[lone lily]

bro i have same i cant even miss people because i keep focusing on whatever i do and my mind is never free to think about anyone so people keep accusing me of not loving them but it really is not like that its just i dont have anytime to actually miss them cuz i keep focusing on stuff so much and sometims i dont even hear them and i forget so damn easy and i really dont have a good willpower ig whats the easiest way to understand if i have it or no when i did some research i have found that i might have a one where it makes me hyperfocus and its a level where its not too much:/

[uneven ivy]

Learn to type

Use . and ,

Let me try to do it for you

[lone lily]

bro why so agressive 😭

[uneven ivy]

Bro, i have same. i cant even miss people, because i keep focusing on whatever i do and my mind is never free to think about anyone, so people keep accusing me of not loving them, but it really is not like that. Its just i dont have anytime to actually miss them, cuz i keep focusing on stuff so much. Sometims i dont even hear them, i forget so damn easy, i really dont have a good willpower. ig whats the easiest way to understand, if i have it or no. when i did some research i have found that i might have a one where it makes me hyperfocus and its a level where its not too much:/

If u type like that, no one can understand you

But yes, go see a doctor/nurse or talk to an adult if you think you might have adhd

[rose vale]

I still kinda understood that lol

[rich ore]

How do u expect people to help u after giving them brain damage

[lone lily]

i really dont understand what i did

[rich ore]

U wrote a bunch of sentences into one sentence

Ur entire message is one fat sentence

[lone lily]

i use but and etc. it doesnt work like that? because i read again and its pretty understandable for me idk lmao

[viscid laurel]

holy shit its like i read my biography

[lone lily]

DAYUM MY BAD BRO 😭

[viscid laurel]

i kinda came up with a fix for this, try to make a schedule in your head. so like after this i do this and this, and whenever ur done with something then u remember the other. and if you are playng a game like cs or marvel rivals, make a mental image of the real time map and try to like refresh it every couple of seconds. idk if this will work for anyone else but me tho

[uneven ivy]

The fix is to get diagnosed and medicated

If it’s adhd

Cuz the real problem with adhd is that you can make a million plans, but you’ll never execute any of them

[viscid laurel]

The adhd paradox: "Tomorrow ill go get diagnosed"
fails to execute the plan

[uneven ivy]

Ask for help

And put your energy and focus into taking the first step

If you don’t help yourself, no one will

[viscid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[rose vale]

Idek if my parents will even let me see someone for ADHD

Cuz they "know" I don’t have it

[uneven ivy]

Go watch Dr Russell Barkley vids so you understand ADHD better so you can argue it better

to your parents

Otherwise it's very difficult as you're probably a broke boy and most ADHD diagnosis requires some statement from parents

[rose vale]

Wym by broke boy 😭

[uneven ivy]

do u have $300 to throw away at 1hr doctor appointment

[rose vale]

I have enough, would prefer not too

[uneven ivy]

specialized healthcare is expensive

just research the topic and talk to your parents

[rose vale]

Idk if I would count myself with adult symptoms at 17

I turn 18 this month actually so

Like 11 days

I assume I’d likely align more with adult symptoms

[uneven ivy]

depends on how good your recollection is, it doesn't really matter

if you can remember stuff from your childhood

[fossil cipher]

How should I calm myself down in between rounds/games? Whenever I die I get kinda mad and it tilts my and throws my game

Also how can I be more confident? In modes other then comp I’m always doing well and feeling fine but in comp I just get really nervous and not confident and start whiffing bad shots and peeking poorly

[obsidian comet]

confidence comes from time spent doing something. the more you play, the more situations you have been in and the less caught out youll be. But pressure can set you back. Im just gonna assume ur playing like tacfps. just forget about your rank. if its like cs or valo, your rank will reset at some stage for a new season. try to not hold much value in your rank. because if youre getting better, the rank follows. Every rank or elo you chase, once you get there youll be chasing another. So just do your best but remind urself its a game, dont get too stressed out about it

and with getting mad, the best advice is just ask yourself why youre angry. take note of it and either realise its a stupid reason, or if its a gameplay related note it down and specifically practice for it. In games someone's gotta die and someones gotta live. just gotta come to accept that

[uneven ivy]

look out of the window

[grim gate]

I've spent a lot of time playing Minecraft (over 13 years) nervously and when playing in €200-€1500 tourneys I get nervous still so idk how applicable the more you play the less nervous you get is, I could just be a special case tho

I never cared about winning or losing either but I still would play terribly

[rose vale]

is it normal that wrist and hand stretches make me jittery? maybe its just because my muscles are loose? or I just didn't wait long enough for it to go back to normal

[rich ore]

That’s the function of ur body

U can look into more research but stretching in ways or limits you’re not used to makes ur muscles spasm

Either that, or ur dehydrated

[rose vale]

I assume it’s just because I’m not used to it lol, I drank water before that, I mean some caffeine but it was with water as well

[rich ore]

I’d recommend only doing stretches after or in between sessions if you experience fatigue or jitters

[hazy epoch]

do it before imo

[rose vale]

I mean would it make you feel more loose before you even start?

That’s the reason I tried it

[hazy epoch]

yeah

[rose vale]

But also I only waited like 5 mins after so

[hazy epoch]

my shoulders and wrists are locked up before i play typically

feel 10x after 5 mins of stretching

[rich ore]

If u stretch before when you’re not used to it (when u experience jitters) it’s because ur body just has a stretch reflex

It’s better to start off doing it after sessions for optimal improvement

If you’re feeling stiff, that’s because u are stiff

It doesn’t matter if u stretch before or after in the long run

[rose vale]

Idek what feeling stiff really feels like

[hazy epoch]

you dont until you feel limber

[rich ore]

Not like he gets more loose if he gets jitters from it anyways

[hazy epoch]

sounds like hes over doing it

[rich ore]

Just do it after to begin with, u can do them before when you’re more used to it

[rich ore]

It’s very easy to overdo it with small muscles

Either he’s dehydrated or unused to it

otherwise it’s the caffeine

[rose vale]

I’m also like super bad at describing things I’ve felt so it’s just hard for me to tell what’s going on 😭

I doubt it’s the caffeine I have a pretty high tolerance

Probably just not used to it

[rose vale]

I think I’m just gonna try to half the caffeine and stretch way earlier like 30 mins before and see how that goes

[hazy epoch]

too long of a wait imo

[rose vale]

I waited like 5 mins

Would it just like not do anything after that long or

Also how much water should I usually aim for a day?

[rich ore]

Depends on what you do in a day

Could vary between 1.5 litres to 6+

[hazy epoch]

just drink whenever you are thirsty

if you need an arbitrary number go for 1L at least

[rose vale]

That’s the thing I used to drink like nothing 💀

I am trying to drink more but like a year or so ago I’d drink probably no more than a bottle of water

Over the entire day

I might’ve gotten water from other things

I heard the daily intake was like 64 to 88 or something like that, but I mean I used to just sit around all day, now I basically stand around all day at work but not under extreme heat or anything

[atomic flint]

To be fair a lot of what we eat on a daily basis has water in it

Milk, fruits&veggies

You might not need to drink just water unless you exercise/sweat

[obsidian comet]

well like i said, pressure can set you back. the difference is youre playing for money.

[silk ember]

nice cat

[obsidian comet]

haha its not mine unfortunately lol

[silk ember]

it may be soon

you never know

[grim gate]

it's not as if I cared about winning the money especially because I knew that I was realistically not winning

[proud patrol]

How do I get rid of forearm pain

I’ve tried taking breaks even took a 2 week break at one point but it comes back almost instantly. Maybe I’m using to much tension idk

[kindred galleon]

make sure you use your entire arm when playing, even at high sens

[kindred galleon]

also yes, you should experiment with how little tension you can use

[coral ivy]

yo my upper forearm and bicep area stresses up when I aim...Any fix? (Even tho i usually try to have a calm tension on my wrists)

[carmine pecan]

how is your arm positioned? is there an elevation between your arms? pressure on a certain muscle/joint?

[white patio]

my wrists are cooked

[coral ivy]

U could say theirs a 135° angle between my arm and humerus bone (The bicep stuff). My arm is just rested on the table. Elbow is kinda hanging out.

[white patio]

i bought braces then got a high score

[fossil radish]

hey! I got into aim training like 2-3 days ago and I think I got too much into it 😅 I played a lot of hours trying to push all my scores to gold, but I probably did something wrong, when I do some movements that involve my index finger and middle finger I feel a little bit of pain on the middle of my forearm closer to the wrist and also in the middle of my wrist

[kindred galleon]

If you're this laid back, you might overstress the forearm and biceps because they have to fill in the role of the shoulder

Try having a more upright posture so you can engage the pecs, shoulders, etc to move the entire arm

[coral ivy]

Gotcha bro. Thanks

[kindred galleon]

litteraly went up 20% in score on verttrack by following the exact advice i gave you lol

[coral ivy]

lmao

[kindred galleon]

bro liike

just made a posture check, pb jumps lol

bring the scapula together, lift your chin up and back lol

ez

[coral ivy]

DAMN bro. Imma try it out

[kindred galleon]

like

wth is this

[coral ivy]

🗿

[kindred galleon]

looooooool

back to back to back

insane posture hack pros dont tell you

[coral ivy]

wait holy shit

I just logged on aimlabs

lemme see about the tips

[kindred galleon]

i capped at 1850, sry bro didnt rise to #1 lol

[fossil radish]

If y'all play long sessions of aim trainers do you take little breaks?

[coral ivy]

😭 🙏

[stable rain]

Ye

[kindred galleon]

Ofc buddy, if you deadlift are you going at it for 2h straight ?

[split heart]

Went back to sleep and woke up with what I can only describe as incredible shoulder pain

Starting from the back right of my neck towards my upper shoulder

[kindred galleon]

Contracted the traps and most likely pinched a nerve

Shit hurts that's for sure

If you got a tennis ball, stick it betwee your chair and your back

Roll it over the area and enjoy the pain lol

[split heart]

Hurts more if I look up and to the right
Not as bad as tooth nerve pain but does feel like nerve pain

[kindred galleon]

Yeah, it's a bitch of an area to deal with

Has about 6 years of constant pain on the leftside of my neck

Use the tennis ball it's a good method

[young maple]

This is the most bs intermediate scenario 😤

[south badger]

overuse in right arm and causing me rib/arm pains ive been playing through it too for around 4 months recently its been so bad can anyone help pmo to different pt

[kindred galleon]

Nah tbh all of intermediate is bs, i'm just under the thresholds for all scens, like literally 50 points under and can't get thr scores to climb 💀

[kindred galleon]

Friend if it reaches your ribs you're cooked

Should've gone and see a doc much earlier

[south badger]

fucking gege

i can tell ngl

hurts so bad bro

i’ve been getting massages and different types of pt like dry needling too

it just comes back

[south badger]

my pt said i should be fine to play i just need weekly appointments should i trust this ?? it just has been getting worse overtime

been icing hella too

[fossil radish]

Yeah that makes sense, the cause of my problems probably is that I kept pushing even though I was fatigued

I'll try to take more breaks and see how that works

[rose vale]

Fingers are tingling and I have no idea why

[kindred galleon]

this isnt helping. Merely subsiding the pain temporarily

[kindred galleon]

is this an actual doctor ? or yet another US bullshit type of stuff ?

you either need a kinesiotherapist or better yet a sports specialized doc to examine your injury

[south badger]

yea he is i just play through it bro

but i will look into that ty

[kindred galleon]

you're the one who's going to bear the consequences of "pushing through it" so i guess it's your choice

[south badger]

alrdy know that boss

appreciate the guidance

[kindred galleon]

I think i'm gonna have to make educational videos about that topic at some point, i reply the same things over and over in this discord

[oblique cloud]

can someone tell me exactly how i sit and put my arm on the desk when aim training , after every session my right shoulder and trap muscles are fatigued , has to be my posture right , i feel like my posture isn't even bad but those muscles still hurt

[oblique cloud]

i have a similar issue , the only thing that works is completely resting for a straight month

your muscles are damaged and they need repair

[oblique cloud]

I think i gotta buy a new desk , this one is way too high

[autumn badger]

I have the same problem I’m feeling like a child sitting on phone books 😂

It affects my wrists more than I thought

[oblique cloud]

i just ordered a new desk with adjustable height

we'll see how it works out

[kindred galleon]

That was the one thing i'd point to, good thing you figured it out

[vocal badger]

my shoulder hurts arfter i play for a bit and usually hinders my aim. do i work on posture or get a better chair that supports my back (lowkey i prob get a new chair cause my chair doesnt support my back properly)

[kindred galleon]

Try sitting with your booty as far back as you can into the chair, then lift your head and roll the shoulders back (bringing the scapulae together)

[wicked haven]

hah booty

[rose nexus]

how can i avoid tennis elbow while playing low sens? i realized that if i play low sens for some days my elbow starts to hurt and if i stop and change to a way higher sens it stops hurting after some time. I have linked this to arm moving a lot. Is there any way to get rid of it, or avoid it? i want to play low sens because its fun but my arm hurts too much if i do it for too long

[uneven ivy]

stretch and exercise

[austere ore]

I was aim training yesterday. And the upper part of my bicep was hurting And I tried Adjusting it differently but it does not seem to help And it continues to hurt while aim training

[valid girder]

tf?

[grizzled talon]

Does someone know if strabismus could affect aim in some way?

[kindred galleon]

If you're really close to the monitor no, if you're far away then yes

[kindred galleon]

If the strabismus is not settled in that much, havung a doc to run you through eye muscle exercise can reverse it

[grizzled talon]

nah i have like divergent strabismus since im like 2

and it needs surgery LOL

[dusty sparrow]

can forearm tension after extended sessions be solved by stretching or should i strengthen the muscles there by exercising

[hazy epoch]

both

[scarlet rain]

is there anything that can help with eye strain? I've been playing games almost every day for many years and I got a lot of red veins in my eyes. I got blue light glasses, I try not to play in the dark, and I take breaks every hour or so. If I take a break from screens for a few days, it gets better, but otherwise it doesn’t. I wonder if the only thing that helps is taking a break or?

[tawdry quail]

I've heard people recommend to do this: every 20 minutes, look at something 20 feet away for 20 seconds

It makes your eyes re adjust

A thing I've benefited from doing recently is to just make sure that every time I finish a ranked game, I get up and walk around my house and give me eyes a relief. Plus this is a good chance to drink some water, get a snack, brush your teeth etc. etc.

Seriously if your gaming group is still just raw dogging ranked for eight hours straight with only short 2 minute pee breaks you really need to stop

[tawdry quail]

So what I do sometimes is after I've played my ranked game for 45 minutes and had my shit absolutely griefed by randoms outside of my three stack, I go down to the kitchen and refill my water bottle, walk around the house for a bit just stretching my legs, and then I stare out my backyard window at something far away contemplating my choices in life

Y'know sipping at the water bottle occasionally

It's like the healthy version of a smoke break

Then after about ten minutes of being AFK I get back to ranked

[hasty stag]

reduce monitor brightness, sit away further

[thin grail]

do you guys have any remedies for fixing a shattered sleeping schedule

[tawdry quail]

I think a lot of my own fucked up sleep comes from watching youtube in bed late into the night. If you can accept it's what needs to be done, it'd probably be best to make your bed a no-phone area if you haven't already

I know most nights I only finally get to sleep when I turn off my phone/get up and put it on my desk out of arms reach, no matter how much I'd really like to be lulled into my dreams by Jacob Geller

[scarlet rain]

yea ive heard about it too, i'll try to do it often i can tell the benefits

[scarlet rain]

true, taking breaks often help definitely, i do smoke weed whole day while playing and forget it's been hrs i play sometimes lmao

[scarlet rain]

i did, it helps for sure

[scarlet rain]

simple but not the easiest, do not sleep for an entire day

u'll be dead but have the best sleep

[tawdry quail]

Your eyes might hurt because of the cannabis fwiw, I know when I was a teenager and used to smoke a lot I'd wake up the next day and my eyes would just hurt so bad

[scarlet rain]

yep i need to stop or dont smoke when i play

might give much stress to the eyes + intense gaming no good combo

[tawdry quail]

A little treat harms no one but ever since I moved weed to just being an occasional thing I've felt a lot better yes

Oh, another thing I hear recommend to help eye strain is having a soft light behind your monitor

So you don't game completely in the dark but there's also no light glaring off the screen or anything, or a bulb directly shining in your eyes

[thin grail]

i see, ive heard that before, only problem is i lie there for 3 hours in straight dark not able to sleep

[scarlet rain]

i'm glad u were able to, not the easiest thing for me to do

[scarlet rain]

yaa bias lightning i had one before

it broke, was helpful

[thin grail]

lol typically the opposite, i stay up for an entire day and go to bed at a normal time, never works though

[scarlet rain]

like 24hrs awake?

[thin grail]

yep

[tawdry quail]

Yeah I'm sorry, I struggle with that too occasionally and haven't a clue how to make it stop. It might help to sleep with a fan on so the white noise blocks out any sound you might be hyperfocusing on in your painfully awake state

Fans can also help with temperature redistru

[scarlet rain]

uff

what you do in life?

i mean you do something physical

helps to numb ur body

[thin grail]

normally i just go to class, im pretty inconsistent with going to the gym

[tawdry quail]

Oh yeah I hear that too. Even just walking every day if you can

Doesn't need to be crazy strenuous exercise or targeted training but yeah going on walks can be good for wearing out the body just enough to help with sleep

[scarlet rain]

sitting whole day isnt enough yeaa

[thin grail]

ok ok, yeah i can definitely try that

[tawdry quail]

I walk and bus everywhere since I can't drive (low vision) and every time I get home from a day out I just crawl in bed and hoooonk shoooo hoooonkk shooooo

[scarlet rain]

🚴

[thin grail]

thanks for the recommendations yall

maybe i'll finally be able to message here at a normal time

[tawdry quail]

Sometimes bad since I'll get home at like 4pm and just go to sleep instantly and then whoop if I don't get woken up I sleep till like midnight

[scarlet rain]

i feel that

[tawdry quail]

The sigma female grindset: wakeup every day at midnight because you were eepy after getting home

[scarlet rain]

XD

[scarlet rain]

ngl i had a lot in the past this and sometimes still but it kinda stop when i work cause my body is active a lot otherwise my sleep is fucked i'll always sleep at 5/6am and like you, closing my eyes for hours in bed nothing happening, thoughts rushing blablabla. One thing that can help you i'm sure is meditation, learning how to shut your thoughts

[kindred galleon]

Best advice i can give for sleep : consistent bedtime, consistent wakeup times. Let the body it's autopilot thing after that. Hard rule to sleep at said time, no phone no nothing. Once the alarm rings, you get up without question. Its the best thing I've found tbh, aside from more exercise durong the day

[tawdry quail]

One thing I've been trying to implement in my life is when I am in my bedroom, my phone gets plugged in at my desk's power bar and I don't use it unless someone calls or texts me

Anything technological I do on my computer. It's been tough to implement and I've failed a lot but I want to try harder again soon

Just stopping scrolling on your phone is so good for you. You have more fun in the day, get more work done, sleep better

WRT waking up from alarms, having your phone away from your bed and on your desk is very helpful btw. In order to stop the annoying sound waking you up, you have to take X steps out of bed and turn it off

Boom! You're out of bed instantly and can start the day

[rich ore]

@summer trout

[summer trout]

ty

[hasty stag]

@summer trout

[vivid ether]

.

[fringe reef]

Does anyone else here have fibromyalgia and get flare ups on your elbow that affects your whole arm?

[stiff vault]

🧌

[mystic comet]

what are some of the best wrist/forearm/shoulder stretches to do b4 or after aiming.

[gritty arrow]

hello, is losing 5kg (was obese) in a month and a half a good rate? not too fast? I don't want to have loose skin

[hasty stag]

you could slow it down a little i think

[blissful patrol]

Its good, 1kg a week is normal

[kindred galleon]

If you go from obese to a normal like 10-15% bodyfat you'll get loose skin most likely, no way around that

[gritty arrow]

damn, I heard if I grow muscle and doing it slow could help escape that

is it really unavoidable?

I'm in a 3rd world country so the surgery for that isn't too easy to get

[uneven ivy]

loose skin is much preferable to being fat

just don't be obese

you'll die

[gritty arrow]

oh wait I should probably add the details so you guys get a better picture

I was 101kg, 170cm, now I'm at 97 or 98kg and I only started going to the gym on like july 3 ish

[hasty stag]

you can minimize it by doing those

[gritty arrow]

I hope so

I'll just try to slow down the weight loss I guess

loose skin removal is much much much harder here than it is for others

it's enough to give you generational debt

lmfao

[hasty stag]

loose skin isn't the end of the world, you're still going to be 10x more healthy

you got it

[gritty arrow]

yup but I'll try my best to keep it as minimal as I can

I'm trying to feel and look better after all

[uneven ivy]

just workout man

loose skin isn't a real problem

lmfao

It's like a problem you have when you have ran out of problems

[gritty arrow]

fair, I don't think I'll have time to worry about that when I'll be digging my grave as I work on my thesis by that time

[uneven ivy]

Oh yeah your weight loss might slow down a lot if you get too busy to get constant exercise

by that point, it's a non-problem

[gritty arrow]

nah my current sched is already graveyard, I go to the gym at like 7pm at earliest or 8pm (today for example) and the gym closes at 9 lmfao

[obsidian comet]

i wouldnt be too concerned about loose skin at ur weight. it can depend how rapid the weight loss is but 100kg to say 80 or something youll have very little if any loose skin unless you literally eat nothing and cut hell badly

aim to lose 0.5kg a week or so, and youll be fine

and generally, the younger you are the less likely youll have loose skin because of the elasticity of younger skin

[gritty arrow]

I'm 22, should still count as young right? With the current pace I'm going at I'm basically losing around like .5kg to 1kg a week, I don't stress too much on a diet since I didn't want to suffer more than just added exercise, so maybe I'll be safe?

[uneven ivy]

Of course lmao

Also I’m pretty sure at some point your weight loss will slow down. Or at least should slow down

[gritty arrow]

I have an inkling it might speed up actually...

because

I like jogging

and running

I like find it fun

[uneven ivy]

Then keep doing that

[coral ivy]

Yo my forearms pain a lot when im using my mice. I wanna know if my mouse (which is 95g btw lol) is the main reason or is it poor arm health in general

[real canyon]

It’s likely that’s you’re overtensing too much which puts a lot of strain on your arm when playing

[coral ivy]

This is what happens lol

[coral ivy]

I usually try to keep my grip tension low but imma look into it once..Thanks for the suggestion

[obsidian comet]

yeah dude you have nothing to worry about imo. plus, even if you did, your skin will adjust. The loose skin you're worried about and envisioning is like people who are 200kg losing 1-2kg or even more a week

[tender ibex]

hello guys, quick question, could a broken hand (the wrist part) result in bad aim ? I started training smoothness again after some years and i realised that while i track to the right the aim gets incredibly shaky compared to the smoothness i have while i track to the left

[marsh latch]

yes and no, it depends on what and how much of mobility and strength you lost because of that injury. if you had therapy and worked on regaining those functions, unlikely. if you didnt work on it properly, yes totally that could be the case. in your specific example of tracking to the right and being smooth, its something completely normal and everyone struggles with it in every skill level. novice players more, advanced players less. tracking to the right with your wrist has naturally more tension in that movement. if not trained, youre pressing your mouse more into the mousepad than to the left. theres a mechanical reason in your wrist for that to happen, but since its a problem everyone has, not something to nerd about

[tender ibex]

i wont say im a beginner i was jade full if im not mistaking(the green rank from intermediate) but its like really bad i will record when i get the chance the difference is massive

[obsidian comet]

depends on how bad the break was, how it healed etc. I will say the issue you have, where one direction is a bit shakier than another, is something that most people experience when starting/getting back into aim training. So it doesn't necessarily mean that its because of the break its happening.

usually after a week or two of training pretty consistently, and getting better at managing tension, youll find it starts to go away

[pseudo canopy]

If anyone wants to offer a solution: Sometimes when aim training I reach a point where I feel like my wrist is using too much rom which is making it hard for my arm to take care some of the issues without having to reset my wrist. For ex: in tracking 180 when I get close to 170-180 degrees my wrist caps out just before it and makes it challenging to fully track the target.

[unreal tulip]

depends on the scenario but you usually want to track with arm and wrist

[fringe tusk]

My fingertips been hurting from playing and idk what to do about it

Like the fingerpads

Any advice?

[uneven ivy]

Stop squeezing so much

[fringe tusk]

I went 30 and 5 next game after managing my tension... I was definitely gripping too hard and idk why

[idle merlin]

My hand cramps up from long sessions of aim training and playing using claw grip, any tips on how to relieve the pain

i use a gpx superlight and have smallish hands, was wondering if the shape of the mouse could be a factor in this, so i was thinking of switching to a op18k or smth idk

[visual quest]

I put the video in the wrong channel I think. Anyways iv been dealing with rhomboid pain. It seems leaning back into my chair helps. Thought’s? I’m working on posture.

[green stirrup]

whenever i track my wrist shakes idk if its cause i use high sens and only aim with wrist but my wrist shakes

[green stirrup]

that could be tension but idk much

[acoustic ore]

anyone know why my back right shoulder aiming shoulder gets many knots and when i move my arm in circles it cracks every single time

[tame schooner]

Guys is vaping while playing gonna affect my aim that much or is it irrelevant

[visual quest]

Nicotine relaxes you, so I’d say it might even be a plus.

[uneven ivy]

It's a net negative for your health long term and it creates such an addiction that can be negative to performance

[obsidian comet]

as someone who uses nicotine, yes and no. It is a stimulant, so it can be useful for focus. But too much nicotine can make you shaky etc. Like eebro mentioned the addiction aspect too, sometimes if youre in too deep you can experience tiredness and fatigue which will impact your performance

[tame schooner]

@obsidian comet I vape 6mg nicotine, how long between puffs, I've done a research on this but I would like to hear from someone else

[uneven ivy]

if u need stimulants to focus, just get diagnosed for adhd zzz

[obsidian comet]

I have no idea with vapes to be honest with you. Vapes ive found hit too hard and get me sick. But if youre addicted id suggest you look into nicotine gum or snus to transition to. Probably the least amount of carcinogens to be exposed to and less chance of impacting your performance negatively

Overall though if youre worried about performance id say to quit alltogether if possible

a coffee will be way more beneficial than nicotine

[tame schooner]

got ya, thank you so much for taking the time

[obsidian comet]

All good. i do believe nicotine in a vacuum is slight performance enhancer but because of its addictive qualities and us being human its hard to take it in a reasonable fashion so it ends out being detrimental

[wheat oasis]

I vape i think 20mg nicotine and aim training is lowkey helping me quit lmao, i tried to quit last week and couldnt for the life of me i got the shakes and was super irritated and couldnt think about anything but vaping but yesterday i aim trained for like 12 hours and didnt hit the vape once

aim training might be the best way ive found to quit nic keeps your brain too occupied to think about it

[fringe lynx]

You can try dopamine anchoring with nic after good trials

It's not easy with like addictive substances, but it should work. Ive been trying to quit nic as it makes carpul tunnel symptoms worse, a long with reducing your healing.

Is there a way for me to get in contact with a physio therapist from 1hp?

[uneven ivy]

If you have carpal tunnel syndrome you need diagnosis and surgery

If your hand/wrist is hurting, you need to do exercises/stretches

[uneven ivy]

Their website should have materials on it

[kindred galleon]

On 1hp website buddy

[honest plaza]

I keep having a problem that whenever I aimtrain or play my upper arm gets tense and I dont know how to fix it, I dont think it can be because of my desk or my seat height (Desk 73cm high and seat height is 55cm) and I wonder what it could be and if anyone else has this problem or could help me

[wheat oasis]

do you feel like you have to lift your arm alot when aiming. If so your desk might be too tall for you so either raise your chair or lower the desk

[honest plaza]

I dont really feel like I need to raise my arm alot, just to recenter the mouse and I think 73cm desk height and 55cm seat height are pretty optimal so I really wonder what could be the problem for me

[wheat oasis]

might be worth really paying attention to your arm while aim training and trying to figure out whats causing it. the only other thing i think it could be is a mobility problem possibly?

[kindred galleon]

Relax your wrist

[honest plaza]

I feel like I already do, I for a long time had struggle with tensing my hand and wrist too much and actively work on not doing that atm

[uneven sorrel]

Nah cuz then they throw you on some fucked ass amphetamine for life

[uneven ivy]

Yeah, because it works for adhd

read the studies dumdum

[uneven sorrel]

Yeah i mean i take vyvanse

Im not actually against it, but there is no real way to diagnose adhd

you go down there

say you had trouble focusing in school (as everyone does) and you fill out some checklist

then they perscribe you a stimulant

[uneven ivy]

lmao

[nocturne skiff]

Havnt been able to do this in a while I'm out of shape I have scoliosis so I don't really run that much but I'm trying to do 10k 1 day rest next and repeat

Did 11k the other day

But my feet and legs are killing me after

[naive sparrow]

in one of the 1hp videos hes using this thing but the amazon link says its unavailable does anyone know a substitute

[atomic flint]

can somebody tell me the correct static technique, specifically trying to get rid of hand pain

[uneven ivy]

Do it more often

[proper fable]

Any advice on shoulder pain?

[rain cypress]

pain on palm where the fleshy part which is connected to the thumb, feelings of needles around the forearm where the palm is facing toward the sky. thumb feels a lot weaker in general but can complete all required day to day tasks.

pain has come from since receiving a new mouse, originally when using this mouse it was very comfortable with no pain but since has been painful. i can still play videogames with minimal discomfort but my performance has considerably worsened.

is this an adjustment period or a medical issue

[uneven ivy]

Stretches and if that doesn’t help, massage

If it’s from esports, adjust your position and do exercises

[uneven ivy]

How do your middle and index finger feel

If you lose grip strength as well or have other symptoms, it could carpal tunnel, most likely you’re just gripping ur mouse too hard and not doing stretches

[rain cypress]

thank you for the reply, middle and index finger are both fine, by other symptoms what do you mean. I'm not entirely certain if my grip strength has weakened, i was using a g pro x superlight before my pain and when my pain occurred I was using a op1w which is considerably smaller. at first it was fine no pain, now its starting to hurt and i assume my grip hasnt changed at all

[uneven ivy]

Just do stretches then

[queen oak]

Does anyone do copious amounts of test?

[white latch]

anyways to fix arm feel shaky after high intensity workout ?

or just sleep

[stable rain]

You mean like gym workout?

[white latch]

yea

[stable rain]

Just chill and rest your arm

Your arm is prob tired so just give it a good rest

[white latch]

Oh ok

[spiral trail]

So like a week ago now i was hard pushing for pasu jade and after like 1 hr 30 of trying i finally got it then the next day my wrist started hurting in the pic shown here and fast forwarding to today these two areas i circled are feel weird/painful sometimes more so the wrist any idea why and how to solve?

its mainly the wrist, but when i apply pressure to the other area circled it does hurt too

[uneven ivy]

Gym takes a lot of grip strength if ur just getting started

It will go away with time

[wheat oasis]

very light stretching consistently, drink water, eat healthy and don't stress it at all. Also sleep well

[uneven ivy]

Stretches and exercise

[spiral trail]

any specific stretches or no

[spiral trail]

any specific stretches or no

[uneven ivy]

Check hp1 or dr levi on youtube

[spiral trail]

word

[bronze vessel]

I started developing some discomfort / soreness? In the area surrounding my index finger and thumb, extending to my wrist. It only seems to happen in cases where I'm aiming and clicking (for reference, I mainly play valorant) this only started happening in the last week and I've tried different mice, different stretches, and icing it. I currently am maining the wlmouse strider. Any advice or recommendations?

[dapper trellis]

I have a problem where whenever I aim train, the right side of my wrist, near the bone that sticks out a little starts to ache

Any advice?

[raw blade]

hey guys sorry if thbis is a common question but whenever i grip my mouse and lock in (it makes my aim better idk) the lower/pinky finger side of my hand starts aching

[sick spindle]

hello how are you

[sterile jewel]

good boy

[raw blade]

what 😭

[kindred galleon]

Doesnnt make your aim better, it's just what you're used to and it's a bad habit

[remote aurora]

u should probably learn abt tension control, viscose has a really good video abt it

[stable rain]

How should i stretch my arm if i have pain in the elbow?

[white latch]

guys today i play sport and my hand had been shaking after that and even now my hand even still shaky should i take a break today?

am pretty new so i dont need to lose "consistency" which i think one day is not that much

[kindred galleon]

Rest is more beneficial than detrimental, take your break man

[shrewd rock]

good shit

[uneven ivy]

Any1 else here have otosclerosis or hearing loss?

[tardy plank]

i always have neck/shoulder stiffness/pain after about 30 minutes of aim training

is this a posture issue? im not sure since ive always had neck issues

i tend to lean forward and nerd neck unconsciously after a while

[sturdy spruce]

my eyes are straining

[tropic scarab]

blue light glasses

also helped me sleep a lot better

[rose vale]

Weird question, does it make everything look a different color similar to sunglasses?

[tropic scarab]

nope just like wearing glasses

[rose vale]

But does the screen itself look like it has a blue light filter

Honestly I’d like it but I feel like it’s hard to wear glasses with headphones

And iems are alright but they fall out of my ears a lot same with my AirPods, earwax buildup or something idk

[tropic scarab]

mine dont but i have real prescription glasses

[tropic scarab]

ive got IEMs theyre really good

[rose vale]

question, would grip strengtheners do anything in the muscles of the hand that could be beneficial in aim?

I know they work forearm, wrist, and the finger flexor muscles and maybe some other stuff

[sturdy ledge]

yeah for the reasons you mentioned

basically you will build strength and endurance by virtue of strength

which is good for aim directly and indirectly. It's directly good for something like reactive because you have more explosive power to flick back onto target quickly and fatigue less whilst doing so. It's good indirectly because having more endurance means more effective training means better long term aim gains

[rose vale]

I see, thank you

[sturdy ledge]

just make sure to progress

consistently

in other words don't stagnate on one weight

always push yourself to do more each session, sometimes you won't be able to but push each time as if you could

[kindred galleon]

Be careful with this, ad it's easy to train strength + pkay afterwards for long sessions and injure yourself real fast

[steady pendant]

Hello, does anyone know how to relieve the pain in the wrist?, every time if i bend it to pick something up it always hurts

It felt like my hand was being pulled very tightly by a rope

[sturdy ledge]

yeah it's important to not overdo it

I use a rice bucket for recovery

[remote horizon]

ok I keep getting shoulder pain while arm aiming and I don't know what to do, here's what I've tried so far

[kindred galleon]

ideal position is 1 without armrests

[hasty stag]

modify the height of desk and chair

[stoic hare]

Im not sure if this is the right channel, but when I track a target, the front and back of the target looks very fuzzy, and the target looks stretched out. This makes me feel like I am not able to focus properly on the target I'm tracking and sometimes space out for a split second which makes me not adjust my crosshair and lose the target... Is this normal or is there something wrong with my eyes?

[iron fractal]

@summer trout spammer spotted

[iron fractal]

do u have any eye imparment, or need glasses, the way it sounds for me, is either bad eye sight, you could be really tired or a issue with monitor ghosting and that, sometimes felt that way but normally its if i denie wear my glasses or just incredibaly tired

[kindred galleon]

What's your refresh rate ?

[wanton smelt]

i feel anxiety in my chest after aim training too long, my aim gets a little shaky too if im too overfocused. any way to fix?

[kindred galleon]

Could be your panel's overdrive settings, if they're pushed too hard you'd have smearing on the screen

[pearl wyvern]

Learn to do it calmly, and try to remain calm for longer amounts of time. Consciously focusing isn’t a thing. It’s not healthy. Breathe, stretch yo legs a bit🦵 When you get tense or focus too hard, mistakes will happen and precise adjustments can be worse. When you’re calm, you’re smooth and in control. If you have to start slow then start slow. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and you’re in control, not your nerves.

Ideally, you should feel as calm as if you are watching TV or reading a book. Your muscles are working but your mind should remain at peace as much as you can manage while you’re playing.

Being too competitive can pull you out of that rational state too.

And eventually your hand and wrist will get fatigued so don’t be too hard on yourself for missing over a really small jitter or aim skipping or something after like an hour of that shit.

[upper echo]

my fingers and hand started to hurt in different places (not my wrist) after the first time I played the fundamental playlist, and they've been hurting for a few days. They don't hurt much when I'm exercising. Is there anything I can do about it?

[last barn]

Maybe change how you grip the mouse?

[glossy briar]

i am having pains in the knuckle and first joint of my index finger presumably from pressing the mouse repeatedly, any advice?

[drifting laurel]

@tame marten

[tame marten]

can anyone help me with wrist pain when i relax my arm on my desk my wrist lifts upwards and floats because of this i have to push my wrist downwards and i think thats whats causing the pain my desk hight is 72 cm i cant go lower and my chair is all way up if i have my arms next to my body at a 90 degree angle they are under the table if anyone could let me know if this is the cause would appreciate it thanks

[forest rain]

Hello, does anyone have any information on injuries to the bottom area of the forearm (flexor muscles if im not mistaken)? I seem to have pulled or strained it or something and Id like to know why and if I can do anything to help it

[tardy plank]

when i do vertical tracking i take some tension off of my arm leaning against the desk and it causes so much fatigue in my neck and shoulders, any tips to combat this?

[fiery quail]

does caffeine intake affect like aimtraining in any way? and how so if it does

[rose vale]

I mean overconsumption can make you shaky I guess, some people have a little crash but when it’s wearing off

But I mean focus, reaction time, and muscle coordination but can cause anxiety and jitters

[fiery quail]

yeah i just got on a detox just incase it was fucking up my scores but idk if its the caffeine in general or my body getting used to it cuz i used to consume caffeine before aimtraining abt a year ago aswell and that time i hit jade complete in 2 weeks

[rose vale]

A tolerance can start after 3-7 days I think but it differs for everyone

Do you know how much you would consume?

[obsidian island]

wow u guys going hella deep in the aim rabbit hole

[rose vale]

I was just curious because recently I feel like I’ve been having problems shaking even on lower sens like 80-100cm

[rain delta]

How do I deal with burnout from shooters in general without losing my consistency?

[plush storm]

the question is aim training this much really worth it if you’re not pro?

[hazy epoch]

why would hand muscles effect a sens that is primarily shoulder + arm

[rose vale]

I mean I also shake on high sens lol

[hazy epoch]

are you shaking on low sens?

[rose vale]

Both range

[rich ore]

Is it even worth playing games if you’re not getting paid

Not everyone is aim training with the desire to go pro, the aim training aspect is a discipline which results on progress of itself

I can promise you that there are people, just like me who aim train for fun and because they strive for improvement and not for monetary desires

[neat vector]

idk I find it fun to improve at something doesnt mean I gotta be a pro

is it worth cooking if youre not a chef

[plush storm]

funny thing is i used to be a cook and started as an enthusiast

[plush storm]

I respect the grind. But I remember watching a pro esport’s guy’s video saying he’d be depressed if he didn’t get a following on twitch

Cause he spent over 100+ hours on overwatch when he could’ve learned a language or get a girl or focus on his studies

[dreamy pawn]

hello, id like to know, is the grip on the mouse really that crucial for having good aim? i have a disability that deformed my hands over time, i dont want to go into much detail but i basically have to drag the mouse by pressing on the top of it, i cant hold it by the sides. ive been gaming all my life tho without feeling like im at a disadvantage but now that i started aim training i do feel it hard to progress

[hollow vigil]

is training for the marathon worth it if you aren't gonna place well? is riding the bike worth it if you aren't gonna go race?

[wraith musk]

ur cooked bro

[dreamy pawn]

🥺

[hollow vigil]

tbch it really depends, although if ur commited you could custom make a mouse

[hollow vigil]

ive 3d printed my own

[dreamy pawn]

that sounds feasible, is it too hard to learn how to make those kinds of models?

[dreamy pawn]

a whole mouse? how did you make the sensors and that stuff

[hollow vigil]

not all of it, i print the structure and put with atachment points for a board (im thinking of buying a ulx and stealing the board rn)

[hollow vigil]

its just CAD, id reccomend Onshape purely because it's free, and id say you should be prepared to reprint a whole bunch of times with minor changes to get it right

optimum tech printed his own mouse if you want video resources, he sells it as a product now

[dreamy pawn]

ill definitely check it out, thank you

[hollow vigil]

ur welcome

[azure ibex]

chat do sleep routines & sleep schedules greatly impact aim

[real canyon]

Yeah

Good sleep habits and overall health can greatly contributed to increased performance in any game

[hazy epoch]

they contribute to everything in life

[iron marsh]

Hey, wanting to play for 10 hours or so a day , how much of this time needs to be break time and how often for this to be possible ( im starting the 1hp exercises and stretches today also)

I dont have any injuries just trying to prevent one. Only about 3 hours would be kovaaks rest maybe bo6 or overwatch

[wraith musk]

10 hours a day? bro do u have a JOB?

[glacial skiff]

I'm playing through VDIM Tracking II scenarios, and I'm getting nauseous. I think it has to do with the emphasis on reactivity and that the bot is moving erratically and super fast on my screen, especially the close range strafes. Is it just me?

[iron marsh]

@wraith musk sort of, i play poker for a living so im at the pc anyways

Its really good money so i dont have to do that many hours

[wraith musk]

must be nice how u get into it

[hazy epoch]

playing poker online 💔

[iron marsh]

I studied took courses and coaching for about three yearss while working a minimum wage job

[obsidian idol]

ts some crazy shi im seeing

10 hours on kvks damn

[iron marsh]

No 3 hours and like 7 of games

I cant do much more than 3 hours on kvk without issues

Im just trying to put in extra effort both in health / responsible exercise and stretches, and aim training ,to maybe speed up the time it takes

[hazy epoch]

i wouldnt do more than 2 if you are new

even with experience its just redundant

[iron marsh]

im struggling to reduce the hours since i have bad discipline, its fun so i do it just working with knowing myself. im a bit above jade rn i believe

[thorny forum]

very underrated aspect: maxing out most/all your nutrients. I use cronometer.com, but I think most apps/sites have something similar

[iron marsh]

thanks

[woven garnet]

@hollow jewel

[hasty stag]

start alcohol maxing

[woven garnet]

@white cipher

[errant needle]

hi everyone
how much time daily/weekly ideally should i spend on exercises and going outside?
now i'm sitting at home almost all the time and only doing some stretches/warmup after getting up

[tribal gorge]

most people who exercise aim for about 4 times/week

6-8hrs of exercise

and you really dont need more than that

if your goal is just maintance you can do even less haha

but the trick is to just get it as a habbit

[uneven ivy]

As much as u can

[errant needle]

gotcha
what about going outside? Should i try to do it daily?

[marsh latch]

yes

[indigo heath]

hi party people im an overwatch player and ive been attempting to get into aim training as i feel that my aim os somewhat holding me back but ive noticed i feel like intense physical burning pain in my wrist every time i try. ive done stretching beforehand im actively made sure im not deathgripping and tensing my wrist/arm and its still consistent.
an oddity that ive noticed is it feels like the more precise it is the worse it hurts, like if its slow tracking based or smaller targets it hurts more, but say for example gridshot ultimate on aimlabs feels near perfectly fine.
idk whats going on man 😭 i run 800 4.4 in ow and i transfer that to the aim trainers i use

idk if this is the right channel but since its dealing with like pain health kinda made sense ykwim

[stable rain]

If you tried stretching etc you can try to strength your wrist

[short wasp]

Yeah dude you should def try going outside for a walk at the very least everyday

It’s just good for your mental yfm

[short wasp]

Also get yoked by hitting the gym, your life in general will improve

[wanton smelt]

the rigjt side of my wrist hurts after doing aim training