health

[violet swan]

if it gets worse or like unbearable or you get other symptoms you could go to hospital

if its that bad

[tawny oyster]

theres fortunately downtimes that make it somewhat bearable

it doesnt stay the whole time

just suddenly happens and goes

weird as hell

like now its suddenly like sort of gone but i think if i sit down at my pc itll be back

[violet swan]

try just chill for a bit

pc can wait

[tawny oyster]

yeah laying down for now

[serene slate]

I’m back my bad, nothing too major right now but I’ve always felt like I’ve had weak wrists. I shake a lot with wrist movements so I use my arm a lot more than I should

Even after 100 hours or so of smoothness and tracking training. I’ve found my own ways around it but after seeing matty talk about it I figured I should do something about my wrist weakness too

[topaz bolt]

Thanks for the info

Also what mouse grip is best for gaming to prevent cts

And relieve it too

[ivory void]

is the pain related to how far you’re breathing in at all

[tawny oyster]

nop

i talked to a friend now and it could be cuz of my diet and some posture

cuz i dont have a proper routine or anything

[ivory void]

yeah that can help with your body’s expectations

you said it doesn’t seem or feel like a stomach issue either right?

[surreal orbit]

Love that you're being proactive! We've got some really solid exercises you can try; it's a lot more about endurance than about strenght, so make sure you're thinking of it as a marathon, not a sprint.

Try one of these and see what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjOCYkn8mY&t=577s

https://youtu.be/JoedUZ4OpPY

[serene slate]

gotchu, thanks a ton mann :)

[surreal orbit]

Technically, a vertical mouse is best for alleviating carpal tunnel, since that's the question you actually asked.

BUT in most cases, we find that folks have tendon issues, not nerve issues. You might be better off working on endurance. It's also worth considering the pros and cons of different types of grips. None of them make you more or less likely to get arthritis, for example; they just place different strains on different parts of the forearm/wrist/hand.

Palm = least precision and control, but most even distribution of muscle work
Claw = better mouse control compared to palm, but more extensor muscle use
Fingertip = most precision and control, but most forearm engagement (extensor muscles, flexor muscles, even a bit of brachialis/brachioradialis)

[topaz bolt]

Ok

My carpal tunnel is in the pre stages so I think taking a break from the m and k will be the best option

So it doesn't get worse

[topaz bolt]

Won't a vertical mouse but more pressure on the thumb?

[surreal orbit]

So the thing about vertical mice is that they don't actually solve all problems. They just change where stress is distributed. And yes, it does tend to put more pressure on the thumb--which means it might alleviate carpal tunnel symptoms, but cause thumb issues unless you're doing some endurance work to prep your thumb muscles for that load.

[topaz bolt]

Will endurance work be bad for cts or help it if you already have it and if it is good for cts then what are some exercises for endurance?

[tawny oyster]

ye

[surreal orbit]

If you already have CTS, as in you've gotten a diagnosis, I'd recommend working with a physical therapist so that they can both help you with rehab and help you with an individualized maintenance/progress program.

That's something we offer virtually here:

https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

But I'd also be happy to help you find somebody in-person and local to you if you'd rather.

[topaz bolt]

i havent gotten a diagnosis yet but i know for sure its carpal tunnel

so ive sorta diagnosed my self

[surreal orbit]

I'd really recommend getting a diagnosis from a professional--carpal tunnel syndrome can look like a lot of other hand and wrist conditions, and the way that you treat them really varies depending on the actual cause.

[topaz bolt]

Ok will do sometime

[serene slate]

feels like i just did a workout but my wrist feels a lot looser now, thanks a ton @surreal orbit

[topaz bolt]

what workouts did you do i want to do them

[surreal orbit]

It's pretty crazy, right? We think of tightness as something that has to be stretched out, but a lot of times tightness indicates that something just needs movement and strengthening.

[serene slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjOCYkn8mY&t=577s

https://youtu.be/JoedUZ4OpPY

[serene slate]

yeah its insane, i think i have a long way to go in terms of bullet proofing my wrist but if i keep up with them im sure my wrists will be feeling strong in no time

[dire vector]

ive been trying to eat less, specifically not having breakfast, but having water on an empty stomach makes me very nauseous. is that normal/fine? will it stop eventually?

[violet swan]

its definitely not normal, idk if its bad or not, if its persistent or gets worse definitely worth getting it checked out

[dire vector]

it doesnt seem to have any other effect than being incredibly annoying

and it passes within 30 mins or so

if it doesnt change i think ill be fine with it

[violet swan]

yeah understandably annoying, is your water room temperature?

[dire vector]

probs a bit cooler

[violet swan]

if its quite cold it be maybe effect it but if its just a bit cool it should be fine

but it could just be your body adjusting to new routine, if youre used to eating in the morning your body is probably producing stomach acid around that time

[pulsar niche]

you can go pretty gentle with a rice bucket tbh

i def find it better personally than weights but im not trying to get jacked

just condition myself enough to game without pain

[surreal orbit]

Rice bucket exercises are awesome for endurance, which is much more relevant for gaming for sure!

Are you sure it's your vein and not a tendon?

So tendons--and even veins--should move a little bit! That's what they're designed to do. Your body needs a degree of flexibility so that it can bend without breaking.

If it feels stiff or painful, though, or if it's interfering with your ability to play comfortably, it might be worth having a PT look at it. We do offer free screening consults, and if it turns out to be something that needs a more in-depth assessment, we can do that as well.

https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[topaz bolt]

Should I still do the exercises even tho I think I overstretched a couple days ago. I noticed tingling happened after I stretched

I have been gradually getting back into exercises but I am unsure if I should

[surreal orbit]

Exercises and stretches shouldn't make pain worse. Sometimes, you might have soreness (3/10 pain) while doing them, but if an exercise increases your pain, it's definitely worth being cautious about.

[bold lance]

I'm convinced im picking up some injury but im not sure what it is, the tendon on my middle finger hurts a bit and it even feels there's slight tingling towards the tip of the finger, what could it be? My ring finger also feels like the joint locks whenever my finger is extended, is that a form of arthritis?

[topaz bolt]

Ok

I also noticed tingling with it as well

So I have taken a break from gaming and will hopefully be able to return in a couple of days with moderation

[shadow shard]

So.. i legit forget that I'm hungry. I eat breakfast every day, even if i don't feel hungry. Then at some point during the day i'll notice that I feel hungry. When I am able to act on it right away its usually fine, but if I can't act on it (at work/in class), or i'm lazy or if i'm clicking dots while waiting for hot food to cool down then after like 10-15 minutes i forget that i was hungry, or i forget that i made food.

[steel grove]

i do the exact same thing

[pulsar niche]

same, sadly the only solution for me is to force myself to eat right then and there

[violet swan]

sounds like you need better techniques to manage stress in your life

saying that in a genuine constructive way

still your hobbies shouldnt make you want to break things

better for your wallet sure

[desert grail]

^ I agree with this @warm flax

You need a better way to manage stress than anger

Doing something to alleviate that before gaming could help a lot such as working out maybe?

Do you have water while you game?

[violet swan]

doesnt glide well? what is preventing you from replacing whatever is causing issues

could it be your mousepad rather than mouse? I just dont see how breaking the mouse fixes anything right, thats why im saying its an unhealthy reaction

personally I’ve never heard anyone have issues with glide from bottom flexing? especially not across multiple mice, you say you press down so hard on the mice that they crack? I’m really not sure why youre applying any significant downward force onto the mouse while aiming, is your grip leading to these issues?

[desert grail]

Perhaps doing something to calm your mental before and during; (ex: taking stretch break, walking off anger for a sec, beating fist in pillow, scream into pillow)

I personally feel like a new man after bullying my pillow for a few minutes

It’s a lot healthier than destroying your setup

[violet swan]

no its not a proportional emotional response to a video game, if that is the simple answer you want

[desert grail]

Video games are meant to release dopamine and serotonin

Not to destroy hundreds of dollars of equipment

Do you take your mental into account?

Actively doing things for your health in that area?

?

You’re having an physical reaction to an mental issue

[violet swan]

if you want an informed expert opinion go to a professional?

[desert grail]

The problem devises from your mental

Not from physical frustration

People can give opinion?

Not necessary to be rude

Can be ignored rather than an remark

Have you taken priority to your mental?

Do you prioritize your mental health

[violet swan]

you can @ mention the clinical psychologist

[desert grail]

@warm flax

[blissful fulcrum]

lmao wut

is ur mouse actually being bad?

[desert grail]

I don’t know how to ask it otherwise

You take care of your physical by going to the gym

How do you take care of your mental? (Journal, meditate, etc)

[blissful fulcrum]

maybe u need to buy a new mouse lol

why dont u get a new mouse?

? so maybe the mouse is fine?

wuts wrong with the mouse?

so its prolly not the mouse but either the skates or ur pad?

[pulsar niche]

@warm flax whats your current mouse?

and what skates

[pale rain]

how to approach lowering tension, i feel a bit of pain in my fingers to the end of my runs mainly in static and dynamic i struggle with tension, any tips?

[silent gyro]

yes hold the mouse like you dont give a fuck it actually works

[pallid mural]

he means not caring about the end result and just focusing on improvement instead of scores etc
it does work

[kind ether]

Hey, I just read the Lifestyle Guide in #resources and I saw mentions of a Fitaic 2.0 guide, is it out yet? I couldn't find it so I thought I'd ask

[pale rain]

ty guys will try

[topaz bolt]

How does overstretch pain in tendons and nerves feel like?

[shadow shard]

from my experience you'd be borderline on genuine pain, not just a nice stretch

[topaz bolt]

I think I overstretched my tendons when doing a cts exercise

That happened about 3 or 4 days ago

I am worried I won't be able to play games for a while

It's prob cts but idk

[heavy spindle]

so why does my back sweat like crazy

while i play games

like i can feel myself progressively get sweatier and sweatier only from my bavk

lower back

[edgy tinsel]

I keep waking myself up during the night multiple times. Sometimes I have a dream and after it ends I wake up and then it repeats. I feel pretty tired due to it. I don't lack sleep, it is just not continuous idk

[small owl]

Low sleep quality and not full sleep patterns

[river badger]

idk but whenever i do play kovaaks or aimlabs i have a pain behind my right shoulder always ,do these games cause this or should i go to the doctor any tips will be helpful

it only happens after 30 minutes of aim training

[orchid halo]

Hello, I am trying reduce my tension on my upper arm but sometimes it comes back and its hard to reduce it. And I am suffering from shoulder pain (right shoulder (mouse arm) )

[surreal orbit]

If you're having it while doing aim training, I'm willing to bet it has something to do with how you're sitting, how much support you do/don't have, or how much you're using your shoulder while aiming.

You might find these helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMu52XEX0I&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdBG_A62Wcs

[topaz bolt]

its not increasing it at least i dont think so it migh have agrraveted it a bit

[topaz bolt]

Can I still play games even if I have an rsi and only game for 15 to 30 mins a day

[fallow pivot]

Hi everyone,

I'm reaching out because I've been experiencing a recurring issue with my shoulder popping out of its socket more frequently than I'd like. It's becoming quite concerning and uncomfortable (also painful), and I'm hoping to gather some advice or insights from those who might have experienced something similar or have expertise in this area.

[shadow depot]

HI! A friend of mine (I'm asking for him because he doesn't understand english) suffers from random pain in his forearm from time to time. What could it be?, and how to prevent it?

[surreal orbit]

If your shoulder is truly dislocating out of its socket regularly, that's something you need to see a doctor or physical therapist about in person. If you're in the US, in most states you can see a physical therapist without a prescription from a doctor for a certain period of time before they have to refer you.

If you want to find a physical therapist near you, there are two good options:

1. Use the Esports Health and Performance Institute's "find an expert" function. This is a directory of medical professionals who have experience with gaming/esports. https://ehpi.org/find-an-expert/

2. Use the American Physical Therapy Association's Find a PT function. This is a directory of physical therapists. They won't necessarily have gaming experience, but they'll still have all of the necessary orthopedic knowledge to treat you. https://aptaapps.apta.org/APTAPTDirectory/FindAPTDirectory.aspx

[surreal orbit]

Unfortunately, that's a little too vague to give any good answers to. However, we do have a click-through guide that can help people narrow down the kind of pain they're experiencing, provide information about what muscles/tendons are in that area of the forearm, and suggest exercises and stretches that target those muscles!

https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

[fallow pivot]

Sadly im not from the US but i'll check it with a doc ^^

[surreal orbit]

You might still be able to find someone on the EHPI page! We've got some international providers there, although it's still a little sparse--we're working on it.

[shadow depot]

kk thank u anyways, he is not very specific xD

[surreal orbit]

Probably not unrelated! Good news is, thoracic outlet is very treatable with physical therapy. It's one of those conditions that's not super common in the general population, but among folks who spend a lot of times at desks/computers, it's more common.

[violet swan]

Hi

Anyone know how to relief

Fore arm pain

[pallid mural]

1hp site has good videos

[lofty edge]

I would suggest looking into this first.

https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

[fiery knoll]

my left wrist always feels like it needs to crack and when i roll it around i hear little cracking noises any help with that>

[surreal orbit]

Does it hurt when it cracks, or when it feels like it needs to crack?

[dense birch]

I don't know if it's because of the grip, but my right middle finger doesn't work well and it hurts when I press it. Why is that?

[tawny oyster]

try doing some of 1hp's hand/finger exercises see if that helps and try to press on it with a finger to see if there's a specific spot that hurts

I have a strange issue with my shoulder probably slept on it bad but it hurts for a week now, not constantly but some movements really fkin hurt to do, been trying to stretch and move it which is tolerable but it's been like a week now and idk if i should go to a doctor yet or not

its a specific spot only, like the front part of the shoulder

tried massaging it, stretching and giving it a few days

still nothin

[pallid mural]

could be the connecting point between pec minor and the shoulder, try stretching the pec minor specifically

and doing upper body mobility

[tawny oyster]

I did some shoulder exercises at the gym and it didn't feel like much, not sure if it should help or not

[pallid mural]

if u mean overhead presses while standing then its good mobility but not really stretching the pec minor as a specific stretch for it

[tawny oyster]

any specific stuff you know i can do while sitting

[pallid mural]

u can stretch it while sitting too

like door or wall stretches

lemme see if i can find something

[tawny oyster]

saw some on google but requires like bending down and shit

[pallid mural]

https://mikereinold.com/pectoralis-minor-stretch/

from it:
There is some evidence behind stretching. A study by Borstad in JSES in 2006 compared three different techniques of stretching and found that they all produced changes in muscle length, but that the doorway stretch was superior:

The doorway stretch = +2.24 cm
A manual stretch in the sitting position = +0.77 cm
A supine manual stretch = +1.7 cm

so doorway is most effective

u have images of the stretches there too

[tawny oyster]

you sure its the pec minor? it feels like a tendon

between the green and red

[violet swan]

whereabouts in shoulder dows it hurt

ah

so not shoulderblade?

[tawny oyster]

dont think so

[violet swan]

so like at the front?

[tawny oyster]

ya

it hurts to the touch as well

[violet swan]

hmmm

not too sure about that maybe one of the specialists here have an idea

[tawny oyster]

sometimes i sleep laying on my shoulder 😭

so i assume its because of that

[violet swan]

I sleep on my side but dont have issues, but yeah try not put unnecessary weigjt on it or anything

[pallid mural]

tight/overused muscle can cause pain, the connecting point of the muscle is a tendon

i had problems with it too

now im not sure its 100% the minor but i think it is

[tawny oyster]

my dumbass decided it was a good idea to carry a box with a fan inside ontop 3 sets of stairs last week as well on the bad shoulder

baddddddddd idea

[pallid mural]

be a bit mindful of the shoulder for some days and u will feel a lot better 👍

stretching and mobility

[tawny oyster]

aiming is not a good idea i suppose

[pallid mural]

of whole upper body

[tawny oyster]

😭

[pallid mural]

umm if it hurts then i guess not

it sux but if it hurts then i wouldnt aimtrain

i used to play with pain a lot

bad idea -.-

[violet swan]

be very careful with stretching dont do anything that hurts

[pallid mural]

for sure

stretching too strongly is bad too

[violet swan]

if a muscle is injured for overextension stretching will only worsen that

[tawny oyster]

it doesn't necessarily hurt but it can if i do a wrong move

showering is the worst

i literally feel my shoulder freeze

in place

[violet swan]

just go easy on it as much as you can

[pallid mural]

hmm its likely more than overused pec minor then

since when do u feel pain?

[tawny oyster]

like week and a half or so

[pallid mural]

pain worsened over time or stayed relatively the same

[tawny oyster]

the same i think

there was a time where it felt fine

until i decided to fk it again with putting weight on it

[pallid mural]

ye i would rest it as much as i can, eat and sleep well

wonder if 1hp has any more ideas, checking up with a doctor is good too

[tawny oyster]

kk

would massaging it work

[pallid mural]

idk if it will work but its definitely worth trying if it can alleviate pain / accelerate recovery

so depends how u feel afterwards

[tawny oyster]

mm ok

[river badger]

top top

[topaz bolt]

how do i see if i have atrophy in my thumb

[pallid mural]

from an image i saw, u should be able to see a sunk in thumb muscle, the one that connects to the thumb and wrist base
why do u ask that? did u injure ur thumb / develop carpal tunnel syndrome?

[topaz bolt]

yes i did i prob have early to slightly moderate cts i didnt injure thumb tho but i can see my tendons a little bit on palm side of thumb more on right but only a little bit just barely

the tendons arent popping out but i can see a vague otline of one of them

i think its normal

they are just slightly visble no big sinks in them

[pallid mural]

I dont know if u have that, i thought u checked for it already. Do u have pain?

And if so where exactly

Because its not necessarily cts

Ill link this vid for general info

https://youtu.be/s1Q1TwogTps?si=sIJhBZNVKNWUCdS2

[topaz bolt]

my pain is distributed in my hands and forearm but it dousnt happen all the time it stops and then the more i use hands it worsens

but dousnt get very very bad just uncomfortable

[pallid mural]

Sounds like overuse or nearing it, resting, mobilizing and strengthening might help

[topaz bolt]

ok thats what i have been doing i also think i overstretched so how do i strengthen them

i have been resting but havent mobilized them or been doing much strengthening

[pallid mural]

1hp site has detailed guide depending on pain area with videos and routines to do

@topaz bolt

[topaz bolt]

ok

link?

[pallid mural]

Google “1hp site”, they also have youtube, but use the site for more details

[topaz bolt]

ok

whats a 5/10 pain and what do the others mean on a 1 to 10 scale?

wait i think the excersises might be helping i will check back in about 5 or so mins

the excersises didnt comepletely remove pain but they feel nice to do i shuld still be careful not to overstretch tho

[topaz bolt]

you are very helpful i knew where the 1hp page was i just wanted a link to minimize clicking but thanks anyways

when should i be able to game again?

[pallid mural]

Idk, when u feel recovered

U dont want to aggravate the pain

[topaz bolt]

ok

i have been gaming through the pain not good idea doing that but the pain dousnt get bad until like 15 to 30 minutes of playing cod warzone 2

[pallid mural]

Keep the routines everyday and when u feel pain dont play, wishing u a quick recovery

[topaz bolt]

ok will do thanks

for all the help

i also rarely get a tickly feeling in my thumb had one in my left today

[pallid mural]

Its something to do with nerves

[topaz bolt]

ok

[pallid mural]

Hopefully it will get better as time goes on and u do the routines

[topaz bolt]

yeah

[pallid mural]

Make sure ur posture is good too, no forward neck or too forward hands, things like that

Alright good night man

[topaz bolt]

ok thanks

[fiery knoll]

how many hours should i get for val im 15 years old and myh normal sleep sched is 2-3 am and wake up at 9 normally

[pallid mural]

3 comp games a day sounds good to me

[main crater]

I've always had a slight trembling hands issue, not really sure what caused it but is there anyone here who has similar issue?
I'm not sure if just my aim is shaky or is this hand tremor thing affecting it, like not gonna give up aim training but at same time wonder how far I can get with this 🤷‍♂️

[pallid mural]

I dont have experience with it, but im guessing u can still improve your aim and smoothness. Try searching the discord u might find good tips

[vocal glade]

Does anyone else get higher scores after a drink or two?

Just doin my nightly aim training and got a high score on all my stuff so far

[topaz bolt]

What did you drink

[vocal glade]

What do you mean?

[topaz bolt]

You said does anyone get higher scores after an drink or 2

[vocal glade]

Well beer for me but I’d imagine there isn’t much difference

[topaz bolt]

Ok I don't think that would necessarily help what was the score diff before and after

[vocal glade]

There were several but +10% on most of them besides the precision one

[topaz bolt]

Well tomorrow we'll see if you aren't getting +10% also was the score going up in time

[vocal glade]

Idk what you mean by score going up in time?

[topaz bolt]

As time went on the next aim train after the other

[vocal glade]

Well I have a routine and do 3 of each thing, so there wasn’t much on the same exercise

But each exercise I got a pb

[topaz bolt]

Ok

[still tundra]

im glad creatine cheap cause this stuff taste bad anyone have one they like?

[pallid mural]

I heard alcohol makes the hand jitter less, it might be it

But dont start doing it consistently 😄

[polar sluice]

vodka toghether?

[pallid mural]

😄

[vocal glade]

Definitely not Im too broke

[orchid halo]

The more I try to sit correctly the more pain I get in my shoulder neck and back

[pallid mural]

if u have scapulae pain, and im assuming its probably the mouse hand side, strengthening the serratus anterior, and doing full upper body mobilization exercises, in addition to making sure the neck is in good position all the time (no super slouching of the neck while in bed watching videos etc)
will probably help

[violet swan]

My shoulder pain

Is making me play bad

[lofty edge]

I mix mine typically with coffee. I get it unflavored cuz there is no point in a flavored creatine.

[pallid mural]

its good to incorporate because as u work on ur muscles they become tighter

u dont want ur range of motion to be smaller because of right muscles

tight

ur body will become more resilient if u work out consistently, so yes

what do u mean by strain

muscle activation or pain

oh

hmm

well, even cats when they sit for too long they stretch their body to amazing range of motion lol, so doing upper body mobility, even for 2 minutes a day, is beneficial for all and especially if u have upper back pain

[serene slate]

tbh when i smoke i tend to get better scores on centering stuff

always better sober though

[foggy marlin]

elbow literally killing me. what does one do?

i beleive its something related to ulnar nerve

[thorn matrix]

Hey! It could be the ulnar nerve, it could be "golfers" elbow, it will probably take an evaluation to determine the source of the pain and the best way to treat it.

I'd reccomend checking out to book a consult https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[thorn matrix]

Hey it's important to keep moving and get up every 45 minutes to stretch / walk around. also strengthening your back at the gym will help!

Hey all we made a new splash page for gamers looking for resources! https://1-hp.org/fix-gaming-pain-archive/

[daring galleon]

Hello, I was wondering is there a good time to eat a meal before playing a competition or something, to have the "energy peak" when we play or just to avoid having a fatigue during the game

[soft ridge]

Probably not? There is a time of day where you'll feel most energized and clear in your head and that varies per person and variabels like sleep, nutrition and exercise change that time period a bit I believe. There's some people that are more clear and energized at 3 am while some are demons at 2pm. Just eating the food and drinking water would help. I'm sure there's a couple other things that help you get a more consistent energy level but those I'm not educated enough to know.

[thorn matrix]

@plucky haven

[plucky haven]

It'll depend on what time of day you want peak performance and if your day to day routine and sleep are consistent or not. However, generally, for a competition scenario, we'd want to eat a full high quality meal about 3-4 hrs before to allow time for digestion. If you need it, a small snack 30-90 minutes before is also ok. There is a bit of a postprandial dip that occurs when blood is forced to rush to your intestines after eating (at the expense of the rest of your body), meaning eating anything to excess (even if healthy and appropriate for cognitive support) shortly before will compromise performance.

[soft ridge]

Wow, that's actually a thing?

[daring galleon]

Yep

I just wanted to know

WHEN does it happen

[soft ridge]

Interesting, assumed it was as simple as eat food, drink water and exercise

[daring galleon]

it's perfect thank you a lot

Today I just tested it, I ate healthy and not too much and it was perfect

I felt way better overall in my day

[soft ridge]

Love to hear that

[plucky haven]

There's all sorts of fun things you can leverage with your nutrition for cognitive support and energy levels and such!

[plucky haven]

Glad to hear it! Feel free to ping me or dm me if you have any other questions relating to nutrition/supplements/hydration specifically!

[bleak tangle]

I feel like my wrist is squezd, can someeone recommend stretching/warming up routine for pre and post gaming?

like i feel like my muscles are really thight

if that make sense

[wild rapids]

Yeah, I always stretch my arms, back, legs very hard but due to my hypermobility sometimes I can get relief and other times I can't. I usually fully extend them, then pull them back and repeat until I feel better, sometimes I'll go further.

[wild rapids]

I don't know the exact names of the stretches, but I do move my wrist to the full side and rotate it around until it feels better, might just be a hypermobility thing. But if you try it, stop it if it hurts or makes it worse. Also, I'd look earlier on in the chat, I'm sure a playlist has been sent for the wrist recently.

[quick ermine]

Does lifting actually help aim

I don't see madbadman or matty out here swole

[pallid mural]

working out (any activity) will help any activity u do almost, be it mental or physical

did u see matty while he aims? his shoulder movements are sharp, i dont see weak people do that

[ivory tapir]

Is using a backrest bad for posture?

[pallid mural]

i had a backrest that had a neck pillow that made the neck go forward, thats definitely not good lol
lower/mid back help is good tho, if u dont workout u can remove the backrest from time to time to get some work on ur lowback if u want

[wild rapids]

What does "sharp" mean in this sense? Would it mean quick, pinpoint movements?

[pallid mural]

i was picturing mainly his backward/forward shoulder movements, which seemed snappy and pinpoint ye

on the redbull tournament

[wild rapids]

Ye, I noticed that too.

I just have a low vocabulary skill rating lol

[pallid mural]

same english is not my first one

[wild rapids]

Well that makes it worse, English is the only language I know lol, I only know a few words in other languages, not even enough to ask how someone is doing.

[pallid mural]

hahaha dw vocab is way less important than the heart ❤️

[violet swan]

Hello, I would like some advice to remove tension and tremor in the wrist, I feel like, I have a hard time tracking, flicking and microadjusting.

[woeful rampart]

This isn't necessarily video game related, but does anyone here have any advice for working out while taking Vyvanse? I find when I train intensely my heart rate feels crazy (despite being pretty normal for a heavy set at 180) but my extremities feel tingly like I've just finished a long run.

Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated

[open ivy]

Hey everyone - for anyone who has followed the gaming wrist pain guide article ⬇️

https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

We were curious on how it has helped you over a certain length of time. Has it helped you improve your symptoms? What are you feeling now vs. before?

[rain harbor]

yo what to do if i have pinky cramps from playing (on keyboard hand) coz its in the air constantly

i have nowhere to rest it

[violet swan]

Hello, i would need recomendations for stretching

Or warming up joints

I suffer pain after working out anything that involve biceps and forearms

Please

[upbeat igloo]

Can't you rest it on your ctrl or shift key?

[rain harbor]

well i cant press them

[upbeat igloo]

oh, so like you can't rest ur finger there cause you'll click it on accident? what keyboard

[rain harbor]

60he

[pulsar niche]

doing those well and you're way ahead of most people tho

[violet swan]

what type of pain and where specifically

joints?

[pallid mural]

Maybe try tweaking the settings to make it less sensitive

I have a sensitive keyboard but i cant tweak mine, its annoying sometimes

[rain harbor]

no its not about sens of key its just pressing down if i rest on it

[violet swan]

The same pain that someone has after wotking out

Idk how to describe a pain

Ive never did that

[violet swan]

lactic acid?

[violet swan]

It last days

[outer bane]

Do you strain your wrist with aim?

[pallid mural]

u can.

strengthening, mobilizing and stretching can help prevent it or reduce pain

like the routines on 1hp site

taking mini breaks and not aimtraining for too many hours can help too

[outer bane]

Can wrist hurt because of this?

[copper arrow]

Hey guys, anyone here has experience with "zoning out" or really hard concentration issues ? I have this problem for quite a few years now sometimes stronger and sometimes weaker, right now it's so strong that basically when I start shooting at an enemy I unconsciously just start staring "through" my monitor.
I hope someone can give me advice in DM's or here.

[cunning vigil]

do u get your daily 8 hours of sleep ?

[quick ermine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hdhJEmlpCi8?feature=share

Daily reminder that lifting for mass is a cope and will not make you aim better

Plyometrics can decrease your reaction time though so try that instead if you're doing this for predominantly health and aiming

https://youtube.com/shorts/24j-9qghSBw?feature=share

[cunning vigil]

cardio is the way

add calisthenics and you are set

[quick ermine]

For health

You shouldn't overdo cardio

[cunning vigil]

ofc

[quick ermine]

Only up to 2 hours of low intensity like walking a day

And don't jog unless you have to

[cunning vigil]

i use to run 20 miles a run

that shit ruins ur feet

[quick ermine]

Bro you're not goggins

Ur just training slow twitch

U don't wanna recompose Ur muscle into being predominantly slow twitch because it fucks explosiveness and reaction time

[cunning vigil]

i jog to the park now do calisthenics there jog back that does the trick

[quick ermine]

Did u change form and do u use barefoot shoes now

[cunning vigil]

i did it with chest light inclined to the front

[quick ermine]

Do plyometric callisthenics like squat jumps lunge jumps explosuve split squat

Plyometric push up

[cunning vigil]

i do hanstand pushupsnow

what's plyometric pushups ?

[quick ermine]

When you do it fast and force yourself off the ground

Kinda like clap push ups

Actually exactly like clap push ups

[cunning vigil]

yh i have those aswell in my push days

[quick ermine]

It is decent for shoulder but u get bad rom because Ur heads in the way

[cunning vigil]

i do pseudo planche push ups and lift my feet at the end of the rep and hold for 2sec

[quick ermine]

Ur shoulder endurance is insane

[cunning vigil]

yh been doin it a while
Thenx enjoyer here

I'll try to add more explosive moves to my workout

been doing too much strenght based and hold time based stuff

[quick ermine]

Make sure it's at the start of the workout though

Or else it's useless

[quick ermine]

Thenx has some good content

https://youtu.be/ihuxQ4WD9dE

[cunning vigil]

I did tried to get to the level 10 push up he did on his push up video

hardstuck 8 can't hold with arms locked out and push yet

[quick ermine]

Because he's a villain

Didn't his gf break up with him that's the whole reason why he started calisthenics

[cunning vigil]

yh and I think he had a kid with her too

[stone spindle]

Lamborghini did you get gold from axitrack Or pilltrack

[quick ermine]

Is that aimlab

[stone spindle]

Yes

[cunning vigil]

yh it is

[quick ermine]

I got gold on kovaaks equivalent of both

[stone spindle]

Brubrubr

[quick ermine]

But I hit plat halfway to diamond on pill today

[stone spindle]

They r too hard for me

[quick ermine]

The pill is easier

[stone spindle]

I just got gold in pasu thinking of getting gold rank

Altho only 147 energy in total lmao

I'm gonna try to get another pasi high score and then start training for other tasks

[quick ermine]

I started gold so idk how to get there with aim trainers

[quick ermine]

Are you gold on reactive track

[stone spindle]

I only did every other exercise once

No I'm not

[quick ermine]

Do the whole benchmarks 2 or 3 times

You will get gold complete

Or at least get close

[stone spindle]

I highly doubt

Since it took me 200 tries for pasu gold

[quick ermine]

Wtf

[stone spindle]

But I also realised it's not how much you are doing the task but how you are doing

[quick ermine]

Are you hard grinding benchmarks?

[stone spindle]

I just had to change one thing and got gold pasu

[stone spindle]

Nope

Just pasu pasu pasu

Cus its fun

[quick ermine]

Yes most of it is technique

[quick ermine]

Do different variations

Do different harder versions or something

[stone spindle]

I thinking of that

[quick ermine]

And then do the benchmark

[stone spindle]

Wur rank r u rn

[cunning vigil]

yh harder is better

[quick ermine]

Don't just do the benchmark 200 times in a row lol

[quick ermine]

Plat

[stone spindle]

Nice

[quick ermine]

Try aimbeast

Or the aim lab sens randomizer

[stone spindle]

What does it do

[quick ermine]

Makes your training more efficient

At the cost of your scores

[copper arrow]

Rarely but that can't be the only thing right

[cunning vigil]

sleep is the main thing

not the only one

but the most important for sure

when I zone out when I'm aim training I litteraly stop aimtraining and go sleep

what you eat is a big factor

if you are under stress it also divides your attention

[cunning vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vASegzvSF4&ab_channel=AbaNPreach

make sure u get deep sleep

[copper arrow]

Ill try kinda hard tho

[lofty edge]

Where does the difficulty lie in? Is there a task in the process of sleep that is creating a rut of sorts?

[lime imp]

Guys my thumb hurts when I move it up and down

Should I stop playing 1w6t te on 100 cm

[pallid mural]

u can take a lil break and ease into it next time, like doing 70 and getting used to that then increasing a bit more

on pinned u have some stretches and mobilization to ease the pain
easing into it because the tendon/muscle needs to be strengthened before u can spam 100cm movements
also make sure u arent gripping too hard with it

[copper arrow]

I just have so much to do I work full time then i have Valorant team prac + individual training I play football and I need to cook plus the stuff that comes with it. I can't manage it

[lime imp]

That’s probably it

I was doing smoothness on 45 and just jumped to 90cm speed flicking

[violet swan]

you should stop playing 1w6t TE

[lime imp]

I just play to build speed in static

Like fuglaapressure voxts static click raim

Alla that stuff

[lofty edge]

Ok, so then part of it is finding ways to optimize your week. I am in no way saying you are making excuses, I am just saying from my experience working with players, this is a common thing I find. Can you cook multiple meals/leftovers over the course of a day (lets say Sunday)?

[green silo]

Why can i sleep during the day and not during the night 💀

Few days ago i stayed up all night slept through the entire day. Yesterday i slept at 11pm woke up at 2 then went to sleep then waking up on intervals of 30 min each

[lime imp]

Helps with matching target speed

[surreal orbit]

Sounds like you've thrown off your circadian rhythm a bit! It can be a little tough to normalize, but there are definitely some things you can do to help with that. What's your goal bedtime/waking time?

[errant kestrel]

My mouse hand is stiff, its been that way for months and even when i take a break I get an ache in my hand

[green silo]

Goal Bedtime: 12pm
Goal waking time: 8am

[copper arrow]

Probably yes, I was thinking of making a notion to be more productive but it's so complicated

[lofty edge]

Time Optimization

[green silo]

I sent this at 3 am for me, 2 hours later still cant sleep. Most likely because i accidentally fell asleep at around 6pm when there was a valorant game on.

Using my phone screen time, and some logic, i slept around 10 hours during the day as my alarm went off, and my mom came in turned it off before i fully woke up letting me sleep more 😭

[surreal orbit]

So there's an app called Timeshifter that I've used (with a lot of success) to prevent jet lag while traveling to different time zones. You might be able to use it to gradually move to the kind of sleep schedule you actually want, and it even gives you options for whether you want to use caffeine/melatonin or not. I'd really highly recommend it.

In terms of things you can do right now to help, you can use light and food to really help set your circadian rhythm. When you first get up, you want to get light--preferably real sunlight, but a SAD lamp or even just a bright overhead light is fine--within the first 10 minutes of waking up. You could consider an alarm clock that has a built in lamp, I know Philips makes one.

You also want to get some kind of activity during the day. Even if it's just a 10 minute walk, exercise is shown to really help improve sleep quality and quantity. It's not something you'll want to do close to bedtime--in fact, it's better to do in the morning or early afternoon, especially if you end up doing something more strenuous than just walking.

Use your mealtimes to help your body get a sense of schedule. If you're aiming to be awake by 8, that probably means you'd be doing 9/noon/6 PM or so for your meals, if you were doing 3 meals in a day. Totally fine if you're not, but consider a few useful things:

1. Try to wait 90 minutes after waking for your first caffeinated beverage, if you're going to have one. It helps with cortisol regulation.
2. Your last caffeinated beverage of the day should be at least 4 hours before you're planning to sleep. Given how much difficulty you're having getting to sleep when you want to, I'd suggest 6 hours minimum.
3. Stay. Hydrated. Seriously, hydration plays a huge role in daytime sleepiness/fatigue.
4. Eat magnesium-rich foods like almonds, spinach, peanuts, and oats. Magnesium helps regulate melatonin production.

You might also find these resources helpful:

https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/how-to-get-your-best-sleep-sleep-and-gaming-performance-part-3/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LLUQu_nqOk

The AMA in particular is great, it was one we did for Voltaic with our sleep behavioral specialist, Daniel Bonnar. He's a psychologist who specializes in sleep.

[spark parrot]

hey this might be a dumb question, but - i have been aim training for the past 7 days and within those first 5 days were caffeine-free and now the last two days i have had stuff like cola or coffee and i noticed that my performance was getting much worse now, is it just a coincidence and i just got "weak days" rn, or could it actually have some effect on my aiming?

[tiny oxide]

6:00 AM-7:00 AM = Workout
7:30 AM-1:30 PM = Class,Study
1:30 PM-2:30 PM = Shower, Eat
2:30 PM-3:30 PM = Learn Chinese
3:30 PM-4:00 PM = Learn 2 Code
4:00 PM - 9:00 PM = Study
9:00 PM - 9:30 PM = Aim Train (Hollow X Voltaic Apex Legend 30cm/360, Valorant Ramp Warmup 42cm/360)
9:30 PM - 11:00 PM = Play Games (FPS mostly)
11:00 PM - 11:30 PM = Eat + Watch Youtube
11:30 PM - 6:00 AM = Sleep

What do you guys think?
there's 5 min break after every task
forgot to include it

[desert grail]

Looks good but depends on your goals imo

V balanced

[spark parrot]

idk about the eat + watch youtube part before sleep, but i aint an expert lol

[surreal orbit]

Not at all a dumb question! It's definitely possible the caffeine is affecting your performance. It's also definitely possible the caffeine isn't affecting your performance. Let's talk about both options.

Some folks have a paradoxical response to caffeine where they don't get the energy/focus benefits. Some folks have a really strong response to caffeine and end up jittery. You might try something like green tea, which also has L-theanine, which helps mitigate some of the jittery effects.

It's also entirely possible that the issue isn't caffeine, but that the caffeine intake is a symptom. For example, if you got poor sleep or were low-energy due to poor nutrition/hydration, the caffeine can only make up for so much.

[surreal orbit]

I think you're putting yourself on a really tight timeline there, and something is likely to get dropped.

For example, if you're sleeping until 6, you're not going to wake up and immediately be ready to work out for an hour. I also really wouldn't recommend eating and watching youtube right before going to bed--your body needs time to digest food, and watching bright screens + interactive/interesting things right before bed stimulates your brain and inhibits melatonin production, which makes it harder to fall asleep.

Also, depending on your age, that really might not be enough sleep. How old are you?

[spark parrot]

thanks for the answer, i am definitely one of the folks that don't get the energy/focus benefits lol, i have also thought about it being an issue with my sleep, since i have tried going to sleep earlier these past few days, but the thing is that my performance became poor a while AFTER i changed up the sleep schedule, could it also be some weird effect that just randomly popped up later on?

[surreal orbit]

Nope! Just sometimes, when you're changing your sleep schedule, your body takes a little time to adjust.

[tiny oxide]

thanks for the answer, i am 16.

[surreal orbit]

So this chart shows when certain functions are at their best and worst. This is based on a 10-6 AM schedule, obviously things shift if you're sleeping at different times

[spark parrot]

yeah, 10-6 am is what i am looking for atm, since i am trying to get used to it before school starts up again for me

[surreal orbit]

Ok! So your brain is in a REALLY crucial development stage, and when it's in that stage, you actually need more sleep than most adults. Like 8-10 hours for optimal function both in the short and long term. I'd revise that schedule and really try to get more sleep time built in.

[tiny oxide]

thanks.

[surreal orbit]

While you're shifting, things can definitely be a little off in terms of hormone and neurotransmitter production and regulation. Give yourself a little time to adjust, and maybe check out that Timeshifter app I mentioned further up in the channel.

Also if you want to know more about sleep generally: https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/sleep-better-to-play-better-sleep-and-gaming-performance-part-1/

[spark parrot]

thank you, i'll check both of them out

[violet swan]

For a person like me

That procrastinate a bit to much

Seems to be good

[spark parrot]

Hey, I know it's not good to look at a screen before sleeping, so I wanna ask - I like to read novels before sleeping, but the thing is that I don't have physical copies, they're all in Kindle or other stuff, would anti bluelight glasses be a good decision to get to counter that?

[soft ridge]

Not a expert, but it'd be better than nothing + coupled with a nightlight feature on said device (if it's an option) would probably be the best combo. I'd still recommend you probably space it still 30 minutes before seriously trying to sleep.

[spark parrot]

Yes, I use the nightlight feature already 😄

[crystal cliff]

stupid anatomy question

I have pain here: what's this area called?

[woven thunder]

i have hand pain all the time when i play and i tested so many mices how can i get off from this pains?

[surreal orbit]

If you were describing it to a doctor, you'd call it your scapular region. There are bunch of muscles that attach there, including some of your rotator cuff muscles. But you can also get referred pain there from muscles in your mid/upper back, and also tightness in the upper back muscles can pull on it in a way that creates pain on the lower part of the scapula.

[surreal orbit]

It's really hard to say without knowing more about what you're experiencing. Generally speaking, a lot of esports injuries tend to be tendon-related, and working on muscle endurance can help.

We do have a whole playlist of videos on different kinds of pain and exercises to help prevent them--you can check them out here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcfMAtSMnESfTusR3S0ZH13rwktAK5ZvX

[surreal orbit]

Anti-bluelight glasses aren't the worst idea, but there's some research that suggests the issue is less blue light exposure and more just exposure to mentally-stimulating things like games or videos. The Kindle is also a lot less disruptive than, say, a phone screen or a TV screen.

[topaz bolt]

When ever I make a palm then grab my pinky with my thumb then bend my wrist inward it hurts in the middle of my wrist and down to mid of the forearm could this be due to the median nerve?

[rain harbor]

how to remove bandage that got stuck to a wound

wtf is this 2023 ppl still don't know how to heal wounds

why there is no bandage not made from textile but from without holes material so that it doesn't get stuck to wound that its healing then u need to remove it and dmg the wound

what is this stupid process

[crystal cliff]

thank you 🙂

@surreal orbit do you mind if I DM you? I have no idea how to start fixing my posture, or where it's bad

[surreal orbit]

Try either spritzing or gently patting it with a saline solution to moisten the bandage

But make sure you wash your hands first, obviously

[surreal orbit]

If you're looking for a consult, I'd recommend checking out our website for that! https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

We offer free 15 minute consults for minor concerns, and full evaluations for more significant ones

[crystal cliff]

thank you 🙂

[rain harbor]

i submerged my hand into clean warm water until it came off

i just bought special idk like plaster but for bigger wounds

Adhesive Wound Dressings

[violet swan]

[violet swan]

what type of wound

if u want u can send me a pic in dm and I can tell you how to take care of it appropriately

[rain harbor]

i took care of it its fine

[old forge]

anyone know how to get faster reaction speed

[lofty edge]

Im assuming you are referring to in-game?

[old forge]

yes

[lofty edge]

Have you used an aim trainer?

[old forge]

yes

[lofty edge]

What are the things it tells you to work on?

[old forge]

my tracking

maybe im thinking its my reaction speed

but im trying to get to a reaction time of 200

[lofty edge]

Do you have your DPI set properly?

[old forge]

yes its 800

question if i start like going outside and start like exercising will it improve my reaction time

[lofty edge]

It most certainly can. What is your current experience with exercise?

[old forge]

i mean i used to exercise before the pandemic but i gained some weight because i had nothing to do

[lofty edge]

Oh ok, the context was to figure out that we need to start back at square 1

[old forge]

yes so should i start exercising for my health and for games

[lofty edge]

Correct. I would start pretty light. Myself and Dr. Hwu had a seminar on Friday and the VOD will be posted. I would say try to watch that video to get a better understanding of the concepts and from there we can most certainly chat further about it!

[old forge]

thank you

[old forge]

will it be posted here?

[lofty edge]

It should be, I will be confirming tomorrow if that is alright.

[old forge]

Thank you very much

[lofty edge]

My pleasure! We want to make sure that things are done properly so that way you are safe and can have a much more enjoyable gaming experience.

[hidden hedge]

hey, is there a reccomended way to add excersising into a daily routine along side gaming and school?

[lofty edge]

Great question we will have a VOD from our seminar soon. I will be putting a program together.

[hidden hedge]

okay

[edgy flume]

Where can we see the program if its done ?

[old forge]

question i have been feeling a little bit of weird feeling in my arm when im not doing good in aimlabs and it feels uncomfortable anyone know what it means

[lofty edge]

Can you describe that a bit more?

[lime imp]

That happens when I’m unfamiliar with the scenario or it’s just too hard which is probably a sign that you’re not ready for it

[old forge]

i do it with most scenario that i play on a daily basis it usually happens when i do tracking and moving my arm

[old forge]

the feeling happens when i track bots and moving my arm to track up and down left and right

[pallid mural]

probably lack of smoothness, which will feel better as ur mouse control improves

do the fundamental routine based on your rank and keep the consistency

relaxing the hand

and watching technique videos

like riddbtw's crash course

over time it will be better

[hallow cape]

Yall barber fucked up the back of my head what do i do?

[pallid mural]

Use lower bar position / bar pad

Or was that a single time occurrence?

[hidden hedge]

damn i messed up we gotta go bald

[gaunt mural]

does anyone know why after i aim train for a while or play 2 much i feel like im sideways in my seat but im sitting str8? (like i feel slanted and it mentally throws off my aim)

[violet swan]

time to rest

also is there any fix beside going to the doctor for this one
That one bottom right corner of my back hurts

[violet swan]

Hello, It's about wrist stretching, should I static stretch before sleep or after aim training?

I always dynamic stretch before aim training and it helped me a lot, but I don't know when I should static stretch

[turbid fossil]

How do I heal a blister on my thumb? (The part of my thumb that touches the mouse… so it keeps getting pressed in lol)

Should I dump some stuff on it like petroleum jelly or smth or just leave it be?

[thorn matrix]

Would always reccomend getting checked out by a doctor just to rule out internal organ stuff but often times back pain comes from decreased core strength. Check out this article though https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/sit-like-this-easy-exercises-for-gamers-to-fix-low-back-pain-1hp-exercise-of-the-week/

[thorn matrix]

if you are dynamic stretching you don't need to be static stretching as well!

[thorn matrix]

would reccomend getting a little donut pad like this to offset the pressure on the blister https://www.walmart.com/ip/108-Pieces-Callus-Pads-Soft-Foam-Corn-Cushions-Toe-Foot-Protectors-Thick-Pads-Waterproof-Rubbing-Shoes-Reduce-Heel-Pain/795540442?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3554&adid=22222222227795540442_3554_145942337685_18606165339&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=652712846062&wl4=aud-1651068664506:pla-1997927411646&wl5=1013587&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=114501607&wl11=online&wl12=795540442_3554&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx7ta7p8mOdp7YT42yW5fp5hjdoAeUxAAE3yANMCyvTX2mKniVzJPz4aAhiLEALw_wcB

[violet swan]

got it, thank you!

[slender harness]

can this help if when i lay down on my back i have pain there?

[onyx mason]

Im experiencing an odd feeling in my wrist and fingers when aiming. Struggling to pin down wether it is a grip issue or not. It feels very tight and leads me to shake when trying to make small movements.

Can anyone help me?

[slender harness]

i have same issues lol

[onyx mason]

[slender harness]

[dense marlin]

i've been doing a lot of training on my microadjustments for static, and spent about 5 hours yesterday working on it

but this morning i realised i now have tennis elbow and havent been able to do any kovaaks due to it

i'm a static/target switch main but ive never felt any soreness or pain until today, but i was wondering if theres any way i could reduce the risk of getting it again in the future? and also if there are any excercises/stretches that could help get rid of it entirely too

[crystal solar]

I have chronic dry eyes any tips to manage it while playing Val and aim training

[plucky haven]

There's a multitude of reasons that are a bit outside my scope, but at least on the nutrition side there's two major risk factors:

-Hydration: If you're not well hydrated, this increases risk for dry eyes
-Lutein + Zeaxanthin: Found in yellow/orange foods (cantaloupe, corn, carrots, bell peppers, fish, eggs) as well as green leafy veg; diets low in these are at increased risk for nearly all eye conditions, including dry eyes

I'd look to improve those if they aren't in a good place!

[violet swan]

Me 2

[old forge]

anyone know why i feel a tingling sensetion when i ever miss a shot and tracking bad like it does not work but it just feels weird

[odd quiver]

where

and how

if in the wrist you should get a break because ur muscles(ur movement is affected by lots of them) might be a bit tired, worst case (if pain/weakness as well) carpal tunnel

or if in "guts" just might be mental issue and I have no clue about fix/anything besides that

[odd quiver]

Hydration, eye drops but before them I suggest u checking a doctor since they'll know and if u r in europe, doctor's free

[rapid knot]

I’m using a fingertip grip on a fk2b, which is about 80 grams and my finger, being 19.5cm long, is 0.5cm longer than it’s highest recommended length of hand. I don’t know if it’s due to the two points about the mouse i just talked about, or my habit of not using too much of my pinky to doing anything in the aiming process, that resulted pain in my ring finger everytime I after playing for about an hour. It turns red and kind of ruins my performance. How should I optimize my grip?

[old forge]

its like the whole arm it' does not hurt i think its mental issue because it only happenes when im doing bad in aimlabs

[odd quiver]

if its whole arm, I really advise u to check the doctor. The carpal tunnel radiates up to shoulder* and it's symtomps are weakness, tingling, numbness and pain. Wait for a specialist to say something because all I know is a bit about carpal tunnel since I know couple of peoples for a long time that struggles with it and I was thinking I might have it(or it's starting to form or sth) but it was my muscles being fucked

[old forge]

question why does it only happen when i do tracking but it happens like very rarely is it a sign of carpal tunnel

[odd quiver]

I might say something BS there so don't take it at face value, Not a doctor so I can only give u wikipedia definition (if I even remember it correctly), might be though, if your grip is tight and wrist flexing so it might be

[old forge]

thank you

[fleet flicker]

any advice on wrist pain in long session?

[lime imp]

Take more breaks and idk if ur stretching already but yea do that

[pallid mural]

visit 1hp site to train ur wrist, making it stronger and more endurant will help

the mobilization exercises can help as dynamic stretching too

[balmy folio]

My hands can't stop shaking since this morning, what should I do?

[pallid mural]

If u feel the desk is too high u can put a hard pillow or something below u

[pallid mural]

Did u eat or do something differently lately? Is it only while gaming or always?

[balmy folio]

I came back from vacation and it happens while I concentrate

[lime imp]

Shaking when ur playing or just in general

[balmy folio]

just when I play

[lime imp]

U might be death gripping without knowing it

[balmy folio]

what is death gripping

[lime imp]

Like gripping super hard

[balmy folio]

I don't think

I always grip my mouse the same

[pallid mural]

Try to be more relaxed, move the mouse smoothly, probably not used to smoothly moving the mouse (smoothness skill) after the vacation

Keep training it will be better

Why do u think its too high?

[thorn matrix]

Numbness and tingling is often a sign of nerve compression. The nerve could be getting compressed either in the wrist, forearm, shoulder or neck. It's hard to say without a more thorough discussion. I'd reccomend doing the free consult. https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[thorn matrix]

I'd look into getting a donut pad like this where you finger is making uncomfortable contact with the mouse, you can cut it to be smaller if needed https://www.walmart.com/ip/108-Pieces-Callus-Pads-Soft-Foam-Corn-Cushions-Toe-Foot-Protectors-Thick-Pads-Waterproof-Rubbing-Shoes-Reduce-Heel-Pain/795540442?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3554&adid=22222222227795540442_3554_145942337685_18606165339&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=652712846062&wl4=aud-1651068664266:pla-1997927411646&wl5=1013587&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=114501607&wl11=online&wl12=795540442_3554&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4nWDV8fM_g6uKhtlTVIMcvStf4AvngZP3IhkLsF5EWnEOEwH_owCZkaAo3BEALw_wcB

[thorn matrix]

Depending on where you feel the pain but often times wrist pain is due to overuse and underpreperation and could mean you have tendinities. Check out these guides https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

[pallid mural]

Get a higher chair then

Or another pillow

[tough sinew]

Does anyone else go to the gym and aim train? I want to use my gym again but whenever I do I notice my arm gets heavier and more sluggish to move

[raw heart]

i'm currently on a relatively higher sens, 40cm, and after playing aim labs for around an hour of scenarios that heavily use wrist there becomes a little wrist pain on the right side above the ball on my forearm. should i switch to lower sens to use more arm to aim?

[civic marsh]

my hand shakes whenever trying to track something, especially in tense situations, what can i do to fix this?

[thorn matrix]

This is likely just the initial couple weeks of getting used to the gym , after a couple weeks of consistent training you shouldn't notice this anymore. And the gym actually has a ton of brain benefits that make you better in the long run.

[thorn matrix]

You should build up the endurance of your wrists! Follow the guide here that matches where your pain is! https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

[thorn matrix]

I would work on some deep breathing exercises. And maybe if you are ingesting a lot of caffeine cut back, seems like you are just getting too keyed up during the match

[normal tangle]

any tips for finger pain, after using fingertip/claw for such a long time, the pain now is like all the time any exercise i should be doing?

they also started cracking a lot

[pearl nimbus]

Any tips for palm pain on the keyboard hand? I use my keyboard at an angle while gaming, which is probably the culprit. But should I try to find a way to extend my arms such that I don’t have to bend my wrist or should i just try to find a position that makes my keyboard hand as straight as possible

[strong terrace]

any chair recommendations under 150?

[thorn matrix]

depends on where the finger pain is but sounds like early tendonitis which is an overuse and underpreperation issue of the muscles and tendons. I'd follow the guides here https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

[thorn matrix]

depends if the pain is coming from playing or from the pressure of the keyboard on your palm?

[pearl nimbus]

i don’t feel any pain while playing. But whenever I try to grip something in a certain way the thumb part of my palm starts to hurt.

[thorn matrix]

@pearl nimbus I would do this routine. https://1-hp.org/thumb-flexor-protocol/

[harsh swan]

Hey, do you have any advice for cubital tunnel symptoms? I've been having this problem for years now and would have to take many breaks. It seems after those many breaks, the symptoms would come back faster each time I would come back and play. The pain is mainly on the right side of my wrist along with my pinky. At it's worst when moving my hand to the right, my hand shakes/stutters in that direction. Thanks

[sonic peak]

sometimes while aiming and when im on the target my hand just jitters, its pretty inconsistent but noticable should i talk to my doctor or is it something i can deal with by just doing some wrist exercises?

[thorn matrix]

Oftentimes times the muscles surrounding the cubital tunnel (flexor digitorum longus / brevis) get tight from overuse, especially from long art sessions which compresses the nerve causing the pain. Bracing, rest, ice all have minimal impact on reducing the symptoms associated with nerve compression because they don't address the underlying endurance deficit. Surgery should be a last resort after doing proper conservative treatment. Would be happy to provide you with a free consult to learn more about the source of the pain. https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[thorn matrix]

would definitly try the wrist exercises but will never discourage somebody from talking to their doctor as it could always be a systemic issue

[harsh swan]

I actually signed up for a consult a couple of hours ago. Does that mean stretching doesn't work for that issue?

[thorn matrix]

Stretching is a great start but only a small part of the treatment for cubital tunnel!

Somebody should be contacting you in the next day

[harsh swan]

Awesome! Btw, when paying monthly for a plan, are cancellations possible?

in case I no longer have issues

[thorn matrix]

there's a money back guarantee if you're not satisfied but the subscription is a package for the whole year. we sell individual evaluations as well if that's the route you want to go down.

[harsh swan]

Ok great! The reason I was asking is because on the site it said you could pay for the year plan with monthly payments via paypal

[thorn matrix]

Yup paypal does have that feature! But that ends up essentially being a payment plan between you and paypal we can't stop the payment process after a certain time unless we refund the entire purchase.

[harsh swan]

Hmm I see, thanks for the info!

[obsidian kindle]

shoulder aches when playing static any idea why? i like to think my posture is good when playing i sit upstraight

[violet swan]

im getting hand cramp
neither am i deadgripping nor playing too much aim trainers
uuhhhhh
also this is my first time getting a hand cramp in 100 ish hours of aim training

[long apex]

do u stretch?

put that palm on da wall

[violet swan]

ill try
ty
brb

im still getting that blood flowing feeling in 2 fingers
uhhhhhhhhh time for more stretching

[lofty edge]

How would you describe your posture when gaming?

[obsidian kindle]

I sit with a straight back so sitting straight up ?

Chair is quite high I suppose

So forearm is gliding?? Not resting

It only aches when I’m near the end of a static scenario I guess when flicking/ going faster?

[lofty edge]

Are your feet resting on the floor/a small platform?

[obsidian kindle]

Not fully I rest it on the chair legs sometime

But my toes can touch the floor just not the ball of my feet

[lofty edge]

Good to know. I would definitely make sure that your feet are resting on the floor or some sort of little platform especially if let’s say you have shorter legs.

[obsidian kindle]

Alright thanks I’ll give that a try

[lofty edge]

Of course.

[low gorge]

hey I'm extremely new to aim training and all that fun jazz but i'm noticing my hand and arm begins to get sore when i try to use aimlabs or kovaaks. is that normal? it isnt a sharp pain or anything.

[livid flower]

Hello guys, I am in a little disturbing situation, I have shoulder / neck / higher back pain due to playing / being a software developper spending like 10h a day on a computer, do you guys have any tips that made a situation similar to mine better ?

I am aware of my position not being perfect and I try to correct it every now and then when I think about it !

But it feels like whatever I do, the pain won't go away and now it is getting harder to enjoy playing, and concentrate working...

@ me so I can see your replies thank you so much in advance ❤️

[violet swan]

u can try fixing ur posture/changing chairs
i also spend 10+ hrs a day on the pc but i hardly get any pain beside my wrist

And yes the pain will not go away immediately
u will have to make a habit of sitting with the right posture
like always

[livid flower]

So changing chair is the best way of improving my posture ? I was hoping to fix my health without having to invest in new stuff yet !

[soft ridge]

A good chair will DEFINITELY help improve your posture or at the very least make it easier for you to sit correctly naturally, though if you wish to do other stuff that doesn't require money I would recommend looking into stretches that target the back/shoulders and possibly core area to help correct that naturally as well. Exercise in general if done right will also help you build a more correct posture. I'm fairly sure the core would be the most beneficial area for posture as that's where most of your support/stability comes from. (Not sure though so a professional can correct me on this).

Also make sure your desk and chair height are consistent and comfortable while your feet are touching the floor and you're not applying a bunch of pressure down when using a mouse etc.

[violet swan]

i mean sitting with the right posture and maintain it will be hard at first
Because we will fall back to our old and bad posture,
Id like to think that chairs are means of maintenance device that will help us keep the form
But u can still fix your posture and maintain it without a very good chair tho

[livid flower]

Hello ! I have started stretches ! And restarted skateboarding which implies having mobility and core muscles ! So I hope it will get me back on track ! For the desk and chair height I got the 90 degrees rule applied !

@soft ridge @violet swan this is the chair I sit on when I play ! As I understood the way it is designed is not the best for our posture ! What do you think ?
My osteopaths said I could use a Swiss ball / Gym ball every now and then (maybe not daily) to force myself to use core muscles to sit properly !
When you guys say « a good chair » what do you have in mind ?

Thank you very much for the time you are giving me ! ❤️

[violet swan]

do you feel any discomfort when u sit in that chair
i dont really see why that chair is bad

[livid flower]

You see the edge on the top part are "rounded" so when I sit back in the chair, my back against the top part, my shoulders follow the curve

So if I try to put my shoulders not rounded / bring them backwards, I hit the side of the top part of the chair and since I can't have my shoulders straight

compared to a chair like this for exemple

[soft ridge]

The edges curving inwards make your shoulders also move inwards which isn't the best for good posture, I have a chair the same way and it makes it very uncomfortable at times.

A good chair is just any good ergonomic style chair worth its weight. Even the one you pictured is more ergonomic than your current one (while definitely not as comfortable).

The biggest thing to look for in whatever chair you're buying is that lumbar support and then making sure you can have your shoulders straight and not compressed :)

Not a professional so may be slightly wrong here but I'm still pretty sure that's what aspects you want from a chair.

[livid flower]

@soft ridge Not a professional either but it makes sense ! I just need to find money now ! Gonna struggle a bit as a student lol

Thanks for the advice guys

[soft ridge]

No problem, and don't stress too much about the chair it'll be fine for now until your situation is better and you have the free money. I genuinely believe just the stretches and exercises will be enough at least short to medium term

[cerulean terrace]

how to deal with pain in the palm of the hand while training?

[deep veldt]

I've been aim training for almost 1 year now and yesterday I decided to use the voltaic routine which is a lot harder and a lot longer than my usual aim training routine and I noticed that after about 30 mins I started to feel like throwing up

If anyone has any tips/ideas on how to avoid this please let me know

Small note the sick feeling was very light

[somber falcon]

hmm i have soo much tension when I only do static tasks, not even switching makes my arm have that much discomfort

just lots of discomfort

i try to relax my arm and idk it just does not

but it basically affects my static gameplay, cuz i would have to have a 4 min break between plays, I used to try to just play through it thinking I was just bad and i ended up playing a task more then 300 times without any improvement, So i think its some muscle issue/ tightness

[vapid totem]

im having problems with my thumb. When i hold my mouse for longer gaming sessions it usually hurts. Can anyone help?

[violet swan]

dont press down so much
youre applying too much pressure on the thumb imo

Should I take painkillers to maximize the time I can aim train?

this one going in hall of shame

Hey buddy, I need guidance to get cracked mechanics as fast and efficiently as possible, I don't care how long would that take.

I might be braindead, but i'm also dedicated.

[violet swan]

cracked tendons more like

In 5 years i'm either dead or the best aimer in the world.

mattyow will kill you within 5 years

Not if I kill him first 😈

Jokes aside, I'm renaming myself on Aimlabs to "CrackedTendons". You will shit bricks after realizing that I'm actually climbing up the ladder.

[nocturne cove]

you will quit within 2 weeks

[balmy folio]

will climbing make my aim worse

[nocturne cove]

if anything itll make u better

[balmy folio]

my aim feels worse the day after is there a way to prevent that

[nocturne cove]

rest for longer than a day

[livid flower]

you're just tired

[old forge]

anyone know how to help soreness after playing sports like when i woke up today i felt sore because of yesterday

my hand, arm and shoulder feels sore

[livid flower]

You could try marine magnesium !

[old forge]

what is that?

[livid flower]

I know it helps with the body and muscle system to recover on a daily

[old forge]

thank you imma search it up

[livid flower]

Im sorry im french so i dont master english but it is a pill

that you take everyday

[old forge]

no worries its fine and thank you for the info

[livid flower]

Or Spirulina ! I know a lot of sportsmen use it

I mean Phycocyanin

[cerulean terrace]

sorry if this question is very absurd but smoking weed after training and before bed will negatively impact my aim?

[calm elk]

well first of all how old are you? Weed affects minors (<22) differently than adults. But 'id imagine it could certainly effect your brains ability to process the training

[cerulean terrace]

i am 21

[cerulean terrace]

well, thank you so much for the info

thanks for answering anyway. I thought the effects of marijuana would be similar to the effects of depressant drugs over time

[fallen mortar]

Do yall shrug ur shoulders a little when sitting down

I feel like having the shoulders all the way down/relaxed is making me have this shoulder/neck issues that go through my arm and eventually cause tingling on my forearm

Posture tips any1?

[violet swan]

I need posture tips aswell I get pain in my shoulder blade when sitting for long periods

I started putting a pillow behind me and when I can rest on that I have no pain

But instant I lean up a little I get pain

What exercises or stretches should I do to help with this

And what’s a good stretching routine to follow between matches and what not

[void pewter]

Hey yall, super informal, Im not a medical expert, but I did ask my chiropractor how I should be sitting for gaming. She recommended sitting so that your chair/table height have your arms bent at 90 degrees, shoulders relaxed, elbow hanging off the table, but have your arm mostly on the table, and have your feet be lightly touching the ground with your knees also in a 90 degree angle. It helped me with sitting neck pain/migraines a lot. I dont do that exactly Im a bit more reclined than 90 degrees in my current chair as it doesnt really have a good sitting up straight form, but the rest helped my neck pain a lot.

[oak garden]

damn

this is how I sit now

I find myself experiencing less back pain too

[stiff forge]

every 1/2 week i get pain in this two areas, what it can be? i work 8h a day at pc and almost daily gaming for 2-3h. I stretch everytime i can in session

[lofty edge]

Check this out

https://1-hp.org/thumb-flexor-protocol/

[stiff forge]

this can also be my pain i think

[lofty edge]

I would highly suggest checking it out then. I hope this helps and points you in the right direction.

[stiff forge]

https://youtu.be/lzjOCYkn8mY?si=NNjf4tjgB29c69lN that routine can be done before a gaming session?

[fallow pivot]

Hi!
How long will it take to regain full usage of my right hand after the cast, which has been on for 6 weeks, is removed tomorrow due to a V. Metacarpus bone fracture?

[somber falcon]

Anyone know m

?

[lofty edge]

Where is the tension that you are talking about?

[somber falcon]

I would say wrist mostly but a little bit of forearm

[lofty edge]

Try this I would say over the next few days and then check back in to see how you are feeling @somber falcon.

https://youtu.be/lzjOCYkn8mY?si=NNjf4tjgB29c69lN

[gaunt spear]

what eye drops for red eyes do u recommend?

[lime imp]

Will cardio boost my reaction ti@e

[naive sparrow]

anyone know why my mouse hand feels cold and almost numb at times after playing a bit?

[soft ridge]

Besides somehow cutting off circulation to your hand, I have no idea!

[naive sparrow]

wack

[stark tiger]

it could. I've felt more alert on days I run early

[lime imp]

Try some stretches or run your hand under warm water

[pallid mural]

Numb, makes me think about tendons. Is ur posture good usually throughout the day?

Especially upper back, neck and shoulders

[violet swan]

Who knows how to stretch my forearm

?

[pallid mural]

Youtube “1hp forearm wrist”

[desert escarp]

Hi i am having problems with aiming after a hard workouts my forearms are stiff af is there a solution ? Or you will eventually get used to it

[long apex]

Are there any mental tricks for separating my mood and self perception from immediate results?

[violet swan]

Ok t’y

Ty

[pallid mural]

Stretch after workout and then take a break, ur aiming will feel weird if u play after weight training cuz the muscles are exhausted

[pallid mural]

I dont think there’s instant tricks, its changing ur thinking by realizing that every high level person in literally anything, took a lot of time and hardships to reach that level

Or did i understand the question wrong

If u mean for example getting mad after losing a fight, try slowly overtime to shift ur mindset to outcome independence, having the goal to win but not letting the fear of losing get u stressed, also not putting such high importance on winning ranked games. Basically caring a bit less

Asking urself “what can i do next to try and fix it” instead of staying with the loss in ur head

Basically thinking long term, accepting that losing is a normal thing, and trying to learn from that with positive mindset

Especially with the fact that competitive ranked mmr literally wants u to lose half the time

Its programmed that way

[stark tiger]

Have something else in your life, so doing badly in aim training/game isn’t the end of the world. Ex: gym, a relationship

[naive sparrow]

been working on it but its not perfect especially on the school chairs i kinda just lean back on the chair the whole time

also just now i was just on my phone and i felt my right pinky and ring finger get that numb web feeling idk

[slender cobalt]

hey guys i currently have wrist tendonitis and am recovering slowly but if anyone has experienced this do you know if i should do exercises or not because my doctor didnt tell me to but ive seen people on youtube showcasing various exercises and such

[tawny solar]

go to gym

[sudden geyser]

Can anyone please tell me if my wrist should me touching the mouse bad when aiming or not

Resting my palm on the back hunch of my mouse feels better for aiming but is it healthy?

[soft ridge]

It's fine and healthy :)

[pallid mural]

definitely common occurrence with tendon issues, not saying its a serious issue, but it needs attention

read on which tendon is responsible for pinky and ring finger (its origins from both end points) and do mobilization, stretching and strengthening, as well as resting a bit from things that aggravate it
the 1hp site is useful (has good info and routines for specific issues)

[gaunt spear]

Does Cortizone impacts my gaming perfomance ? i have crohns disease and i get Humira and Cortizone(Budecol)

ik health is the most important but i want to know : D

[somber falcon]

ooo sorry for the late response I will start doing it this today

[sudden geyser]

My keyboard hand's ring finger is having tumors time to time for 2-3 days is it normal?
Should I see a doctor

[pallid mural]

tumor or tremors

[sudden geyser]

Tremors

XD

[pallid mural]

Probably overexertion - rest ur mouse hand for 2 days / until u feel better

Stretch and mobilize

And after u come back to gaming do it gradually with mini breaks every now and then

[sudden geyser]

Can this be the reason for wrist pain?

I hold my mouse like this

[pallid mural]

Hmm.. idk, maybe

Try resting a bit

I mean resting the wrist when playing

Except the resting for now to heal

[sudden geyser]

I'm trying to do the claw while testing my wrist on desk and it's uncomfortable but I think i can do it

My aim is worse too now but i think can stop better now

[pallid mural]

Doesnt need to be fully anchored to desk yeah? Just touching a bit is enough to feel a change(and for testing)

[sudden geyser]

Yes, I'm making sure my wrist and grip is relaxed.

Did a 1010 in angleshot but wave shot is a little difficult but I can do my average easy still, I think anchoring will also help with static.

[pallid mural]

Nice, wave shot has diff pattern, just need to play it more

[nocturne cove]

ive heard having your wrist raised is bad for your health, ill try to find the west proter video on it

i can't find the video but basically you are putting a lot of emphasis/pressure on your wrist to do a lot of your range of motion

instead of laying ur wrist flat and being able to glide ur forearm across ur mousepad

which would relieve pressure from ur wrist to your entire arm/forearm

[sudden geyser]

My table is a little higher so that's impossible to do

Nd I don't have pain today in my wrist, i kept my wrist on the desk yesterday whole day, very very uncomfortable and it was hard to grip my mouse but no pain.

[pallid mural]

Thats good

Try a pillow / hard pillow below u

[sudden geyser]

Hahaha my mom will kill me
U can't put something under your butt which you put under your head in my home 🤣

I'm loving the new grip it's unstable right now but I did a 1000+ in angelshots imma grind this grip out then go to lilac's playlist

[final frost]

Why do i feel my hand or fingers like they are rusty
Like a rust hinge

[pallid mural]

Do u drink enough water? How’s ur nutrition?

[nocturne cove]

okay, but this is about health, it's really up to u how u want to prioritize your health

finding a solution to something "impossible" is better for longevity

[final frost]

I drink something like a tea like 3 times a day
And i think I am eating well

[pallid mural]

Tbh i dont think 3 tea cups are enough

But idk if thats the cause

For ur rusty hinge feeling

Is ur posture good usually?

[final frost]

3 half-liter cups of mate cocido (boiled mate) a day. If that's not enough, dang
And I do have a slightly stooped posture, but I've been trying to fix it for months now.

[pallid mural]

Seems enough then, those are some big cups 😄

Tendons might be a bit irritated

From posture and overuse

Try reducing time from things that aggravate the feeling and adding mobilization routine (few minutes) and trying to fix posture

1hp has good info

Links in pinned comments

[sick relic]

My posture is terrible and I get the worst cramps and aches but I just for the life of me just can't fix it

Not like, I just prefer to slouch or it's more comfortable, I just psych myself out. Like idk what "straight" is 😭

Am I sat up straight now? How ab now?

[somber falcon]

okay I definetly notice It being better for static, but for the wrist focused movements in the routine I get lots of cracking and popping and pulling @lofty edge

[sick relic]

Also, I recently underwent scaphoid surgery, or rather was recently cleared by my surgeon from a scaphoid surgery, and haven't aim trained or played FPS games in maybe 6-8 months, was wondering what kind of stretches I could do to help make the area a little more flexible as I start to retrain my aim

It was schapoid debridement, if that's relevant at all, and one problem I have noticed is that I have limited thumb extension

Idk if it's as a cause of the surgery and/or recovery, but the range of motion in my right thumb is probably about 60% of that of my left thumb in extension

Abduction, flexion, and opposition are all perfectly fine and there's no noticeable difference, it's just that really limited range in extension

[lofty edge]

@open ivy

[somber falcon]

Do these pills actually work ?

I have been having energy problems and yeah I am losing weight,but idk what else I should do to not lose soo much energy

[haughty canopy]

I’ve been struggling with class and valorant no aim training, my arm is inflamed constantly and my bottom elbow always hurts

any suggestions besides stop

[unkempt gazelle]

Yo, imma rest it for a few days and maybe a week but could this be anything other than just soreness?

I have what feels like general muscle tightness and soreness at the base of my thumb/ palm. I do stretches when I train and use my hands quite a fair bit (I make sushi as a job and train at the gym 4x a week). I also sometimes get pain in my pinky finger knuckle, but very rarely

[pallid mural]

Might be overworking that specific tendon, is that only on ur mouse arm?

[unkempt gazelle]

Yeah it is

I'm defo resting it for 2 or 3 days minimum

[pallid mural]

When u make sushi, do u mainly work with the mouse arm or both kinda equally

[unkempt gazelle]

Both arms

[pallid mural]

Im guessing the overall volume + pc usage is what it is

Rest -> mobilization routine -> slowly increasing volume will probably help

[unkempt gazelle]

That's what I'm thinking too. Alright sounds good, I was gonna do stretches while resting it anyway but I'll add the mobility stuff too!

[pallid mural]

Ye mainly upper body including mid back up to neck, shoulders arms and fingers, they are all connected in one way or another

[unkempt gazelle]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[sudden geyser]

I'm a jack of all trades know wood work so I will just make my table a bit shorter

Thanks for all the help guys!

[weary bane]

Why am i always exhausted , i have a good sleep schedule , eat enough , drink enough , barely any caffeine regular exercise

[south storm]

anyone know what part of my mose grip can cause pain in my thumb knuckle region im not gripping my mouse tight

[pallid mural]

Might be overuse, in that case it needs rest, mobilization, and then strengthening. Posture can make it flare up too, if its bad consistently

For example neck and shoulders

[south storm]

@pallid mural you are truely a blessing u have an answer to all of my questions and everyone elses

[runic pine]

fr

i got my arm sleeve last night and its really cool but i just remembered that people use these for medical reasons and i was wondering if its gonna cause any side effects if i wear it for hours while gaming

it supposedly improves bloodflow when exercising but what is that like when im just sitting still gaming

i just dont wanna cause any issues

[signal falcon]

I've been using one for months and never had any issues. I like it cuz it keeps my pads clean.

[pallid mural]

[nocturne cove]

ksyyZ GOAT

[thorn matrix]

Hey you should 100% be working with a hand therapist post surgery so they can be doing the passive range of motion necessary to make sure you don't end up with scar tissue that can permanently limit your function in the thumb and wrist! These are some gentle exercises you can start doing on your own though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaZyefgHbo8&ab_channel=1HP

[thorn matrix]

@plucky haven

[thorn matrix]

Hey we would need to identify what is causing the inflammation. Likely it's an overuse tendinopathy but it could also be a thing like bursitis. Fill out this form for a free phone consult with a physical therapist. https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[thorn matrix]

Sounds like an endurance issue of the fingers. I'd reccomend following this routine. https://1-hp.org/wrist-extensor-protocol/

[thorn matrix]

this sounds like an overuse injury of multiple tendons in the wrist. Totally fixable but we'd have to identify which ones are actually causing the problems. I'd fill out a free consult to talk to one of our physical therapists https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[south storm]

thanks man!

[plucky haven]

Calorie deficits and weight loss pretty consistently do cause lack of energy. If your deficit is too extreme you might consider dialing it back a bit. If you have been dieting for too long, you may need a diet break.

Sleep, dehydration, inconsistent caffeine use, sedentary patterns, and inconsistent scheduling can also lead to low energy and should be considered as well.

Regarding the pills, b vitamins will help partially restore some lost energy IF they are correcting for a deficiency. Otherwise they don't do too much.

Ok the diet side, I'd look to make sure you're getting some protein with each meal, and about 25-30g in the morning. You shouldn't be skimping on veg and fruits - subclinical deficiencies can also lead to lack of energy. You can add in some strategic caffeine use if needed for key tasks as well.

[plucky haven]

On the diet side, poor diet quality could be contributing. However, I would encourage you to potentially get some bloodwork and maybe a sleep study to make sure everything is working properly under the hood! If you dm me I'm happy to run a check on your food intake to see if anything seems off about it.

[somber falcon]

Yeah I am losing weight

But yeah I lost soo much energy

[sick relic]

Thank you very much ❤️
And not to worry, I do have physiotherapy as part of my rehab I was just curious on specific things I can do before aiming

If you're that low energy that it's an active concern, and not even caffeine can help temporarily, you definitely should check in with your doc, shit don't sound healthy at all

As to, "is there any other stuff" - Yes.

Sleep, dehydration, inconsistent caffeine use, sedentary patterns, and inconsistent scheduling can also lead to low energy and should be considered as well.

This stuff

The best solutions often come through lifestyle changes, and not supplements or medication

If all of them are in check and within healthy ranges then perhaps

If you have been dieting for too long, you may need a diet break.

And forgive the abrasive tone for a moment, but, if people go out of their way and spend their time giving you advice that you requested, at least give them the decency of reading their advice, instead of just looking for the advice that you wanted them to give you. You may have wanted them to say "Eat these pills and you're good", but, sometimes that just aint the case

[somber falcon]

Yeah I have been dieting idk how many calories exactly but just cut alot of food out

[somber falcon]

Yeah it's a weird thing cuz when I do try to gain a lot I can only sleep 5-6 hours

Or even maintain weight I sleep way less

[sick relic]

Probably because you don't need as much sleep

[somber falcon]

But not that I am losing weight I sleep 8 hours

[somber falcon]

Yeah that time I do get really tired

Especially from 12-3

When I am at school

But now I am losing weight I have been getting more sleep suddenly I Been feeling so tired

[sick relic]

I'm aware of the issues, you stated them 3 times

[somber falcon]

Okay

[sick relic]

Some lifestyle changes have been provided for you to try out to try and fix these problems

I would heavily recommend trying to implement them

If that is unsatisfactory then I would recommend seeing your doctor about it

[somber falcon]

Oh sleep I do get for hydration I drink lots of water mostly because been having a water drinking urge a lot

I always sleep at 9-10

Sedentary patterns M

[sick relic]

It's not about getting a lot of sleep, but having healthy sleep habits

Sleeping 10 hours isn't necesarrily healthy

[somber falcon]

Yeah

[sick relic]

Try your best to ensure that the sleep you are getting is restful, fulfilling sleep, and try not to oversleep

Try to have a regular schedule for your sleep, either when you go to bed or when you wake up, either is fine

And in general try not to sleep over 9 hours, as it can affect your immune system, mental health and a bunch of other bad stuff

How you get good sleep is down to sleep hygeine, which you can find resources for below
https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/sleep-better-to-play-better-sleep-and-gaming-performance-part-1/
https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/sleep-play-win-sleep-and-gaming-performance-part-2/
https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/how-to-get-your-best-sleep-sleep-and-gaming-performance-part-3

God bless Caitlin, she out here doing work

[sick relic]

Hope that is helpful, other than that, try and make sure all the other parts of your lifestyle are healthy as outlined by the actual professional earlier, and if you are still finding you have low energy, then as the professional recommended, consider taking a diet break

If you still wish to diet however after that, perhaps consider talking to a dietician/nutritionist before dieting again to make sure you are doing so in a healthy manner

[somber falcon]

Okay I will read these

But I think you are right that it is my diet then anything else

Cuz overall my schedule and everything has been very similar for a while

[sick relic]

Don't credit me, I am just emphasising the points in the original reply from Casey

I am in by no means a professional, simply trying to urge you to listen to the professional that responded

[somber falcon]

I will dial my diet back a little then.

My current diet is
Breakfest
1cup egg whites
1 cup oat milk
1 cup berries
2 scoops of protein.
Lunch I have
1 cup egg whites
1 cup oat milk
1 cup berries
1 scoop of protein powder. Then I eat some nuts maybe 250 calories of it. After I eat a kiwi and banana at home, Then I eat 4 Oz fish 1 cup carrots 1 cup broccoli and 8 small potatoes.

But recently I have been falling to urges so sometimes drinking another smoothie

[sick relic]

That is a very restrictive diet if you are following that every day

[somber falcon]

Yeah I have been following it for a very long time

[sick relic]

I aint no nutritionist but yeahhhh

That's not a lot of variety

[somber falcon]

Well maybe 1 year but I had the same type of smoothie and dinner for maybe 3 years

[somber falcon]

I thought it was good tho

[sick relic]

It probably is a good meal schedule for a day

Not so much for every day

For a year

[somber falcon]

Ahh

What am I missing ?

[sick relic]

It's impossible for me to say honestly I have no idea

[somber falcon]

Ahh okay

[sick relic]

It would depend on what kind of proteins and nuts and berries etc

[somber falcon]

Oh just usually protein powder

For berries I use mixed and for nuts I also get mixed ones

[sick relic]

Like it's all very specific to the exact things you're eating, but in general the best way to fix this is having a varied diet

I meant more, what kind of protein powder

[somber falcon]

Oh plant based

[sick relic]

What plant

Bc smth like pea protein, whilst it's fine for protein itsself

[somber falcon]

Oh Damm I will check next time I see the powder

[sick relic]

It don't do much else

I think pea protein has a lot of amino acids that you need but

I'd say in general, the takaway is try to have a varied diet

[somber falcon]

Varied

[sick relic]

If you eat the same things every day, no matter what they are you're bound to run into deficinies somewhere or other and it's hard to pinpoint

[somber falcon]

Okay I will try to vary it

[somber falcon]

Ahh I thought it was good tbh

But yeah I will try to vary it

[sick relic]

Hell maybe it is maybe I'm talking outta my ass

But yeah, try to cut back on the diet a little, give yourself a little room for different types of food

And add some varience into your diet for sure

Changing what kind of fruits you eat for example, changing the grains you eat, definitely have a different meal for lunch than breakfast, that'll allow you to get a lot more types of food in your diet

Even changing the milks you have can help, soy/oat/almond milk will all have different nutritional value

Vary the fish you eat, you can change it for some red/white meats if appropriate for your diet, but if you're pescatarian then even varying the fish can help

[somber falcon]

Okay I will try these tips changing fruits protein and all that stuff

[sick relic]

Having some flaky white fillet of plaice will be far different from a tuna steak, for example

For sure, glad to hear it

And also as mentioned, give yourself some leniency in your diet and dial it back a little just to help you find your footing and give you a little more leeway whilst you regain your energy

But again, just for clarification, I am in by no means a professional or a dietician, so take my advice with a pinch of salt until someone more qualified can verify, clarify or nullify what I've said

[somber falcon]

Yeah I will add more variety change some meats and sources

Eat a little bit more

Thanks for the help

[plucky haven]

@Maff thanks for the support with your messages!

Regarding this particular diet - there are several issues I see from the eye test. I can do a detailed analysis for you if you DM on the side, but here's some notes:

-Too little fat: prolonged underconsumption of fat will tank your hormones [you're getting a smidge from your nuts and maybe the fish depending on type, but still very low on the day; try to have at least 1g/kg/d, if you need to pinch calories, try 1g/kg FFM/d]
-Love that you are eating decent ish fruits/veg
-Protein is a bit inadequate and unvaried - it's mostly protein powder (which may also do a number on your gut in the long term), and then a small dose of fish (which is great and probably the highest value protein you can pick, depending on type)
-Calorie split is a bit awkward and may be contributing - you have pretty low kcals in the morning/lunch and then bigger meal in the evening; your body is better able to process foods earlier in the day and this weans as the day goes on, so if you flip flopped this you might notice a change
-Depending on how active/big you are, the total daily calorie amount seems a bit low; you could test a 1x week diet break (just go up to maintenance kcals) and if your energy doesn't come back, then the low energy may be related to some other factors
-If you are only eating those foods, you may be a bit low on iron, potentially anemic, another big low energy contributor

[somber falcon]

Okay I will take these tips

I can add oats to my smoothies

And maybe I should eat fish right when I get home

[plucky haven]

I think that may only partially help with a couple of the things I noted (iron, low early kcals), I would definitely take a look at overall daily fat content, especially if you've been at this pattern for a while! It'd help if you got some bloodwork done as well to check under the hood and see if anything is amiss.

[somber falcon]

Oh no I just started losing weight

I ate way more before

But now I am currently losing weight/trying

But when I was doing a maintaining diet I did have good blood work the doctor told me but yeah. I only been doing this diet for 13 days

[somber falcon]

So should I eat more nuts

I eat 260

Idk what I should do about the fruits tho

But I thought that was enough protein cuz it's 140 grams for 130 pound person

Unvaried is true but I don't know how to vary it without basically eating above maintainence

Lol this is too complicated for me

I will try to find someone to make a diet for Me

[plucky haven]

For the fats, you could swap your egg whites for whole eggs, keep eating your nuts, make sure the fish you eat is fatty. Maybe work in some avocados.

For the protein, if you are hitting 140g that is definitely enough! Different protein powders have varying content so wasn't sure. That being said, the amino acid profile could be off due to most of it coming from powders.

Figuring out what to eat to be optimal is more confusing and challenging than it should be. There's a lot of misinformation out there. Happy to continue to do what I can to help. Feel free to DM me!

[somber falcon]

Okay switching to whole eggs I will try