siege

[granite ivy]

Invi

Stay strong brother

[crude solar]

someone come adopt me

[granite ivy]

Thanks mod of the month and gratz on the promotion

[crude solar]

snow come to my house and say ur my cousin then take me to cali

[feral egret]

Thank you

[granite ivy]

I would but I don’t wanna make you move to the third world

[crude solar]

argentina is third world country?

had no idea

[granite ivy]

[granite ivy]

Yes, things are pretty rough here for the most part. Buenos aires at least is closer to eu/na

The rest of the country is poor af

And ily

[astral dagger]

4:58 am on a schoolday

lovely

[crude solar]

@granite ivy idc lemme live with you

[astral dagger]

im not involved

xD

[inland lark]

feetsies

[granite ivy]

[inland lark]

i shouldnt be too close to the wall when i peak around corners right?

or it doesnt matter

[granite ivy]

Technically yeah, the closer you are the worst perspective is for you

But if you’re the one peeking it shouldn’t be a big issue

Unless you’re slow peeking

[inland lark]

slow peeking?

like when i track an edge?

[granite ivy]

Yeah like doing it while walking as if you’re trying to catch someone off guard/be silent

[granite ivy]

Yeah

[inland lark]

i see

[granite ivy]

Unfavourable perspective can be negated by peekers advantage generally

The person being peeked won’t ever really have an advantage even if perspective is super in their favour due to how strong peekers advantage is

[inland lark]

i see

btw i got the gigantus v2 yesterday

for now it glides really well

how does it feel like broken in?@granite ivy

[devout rock]

@inland lark how much u got for

[granite ivy]

I don’t really like talking about pads “breaking in” since generally it’s just the pad wearing out but mine is still smooth af

Haven’t even washed it yet since it feels great still

[inland lark]

11usd

[granite ivy]

It’s a great budget control pad imo

Shame humidity messes up with it a bit

[inland lark]

its faster than my swift rx definitely

[granite ivy]

Don’t forget this is a fresh pad tho, your swift rx might’ve been super worn

[inland lark]

oh yeah

and its slightly bigger too

360mm compared to 320

and no stitched edges

[granite ivy]

Niceeeee

[inland lark]

new mousepad but still cant aim

sad

[granite ivy]

Don’t say that

[inland lark]

Im so bad w low firerate guns in siege

Missed all my shots w ying

[granite ivy]

I used to dislike low rof/semi auto guns in games in general

But I feel like abstracting aim as much as possible so that you just ignore those game specific attributes helps

Just try to ignore the rof, maybe do thunt with no audio

We’re exploring uncharted territory here tho

This could be interesting

[inland lark]

Thunting w low rof gun might be the thing

No more ash thunts

All ying thunts

Lower rof guns may help train better tracking somehow right?

[inland lark]

comp on ying?

[raw fox]

https://twitter.com/PhizZ_R6/status/1369655774163726344?s=20 this shit is cursed

Brendan 🇺🇸 (@PhizZ_R6)

@TSM_Beaulo https://t.co/A1Yt2QLSz2

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[inland lark]

holy shit this beaulo looks different

[astral dagger]

U still have to get used to it prob 2more days and u will be a aimgod

[inland lark]

Hope

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[astral dagger]

it wont be as bad as my transition from a mpc450 to controlpad

[inland lark]

According to the mousepad sheet im transiting from a control pad at the bottom of the list to a faster control pad

But then its worn out swift rx so idk

[astral dagger]

im on an inked gaming pad atm

feels weird after using mpc450 for a month

[inland lark]

s-mousepad

[bronze spruce]

Mousepad mastersheet
http://bit.ly/30cWlUe

[noble belfry]

Inked gaming pad is suppose to be nice

[inland lark]

Hey fluffy

[noble belfry]

I'm jealous of Daan I think he has an uncoated one that they used to make ages ago or something along those lines

Hey cutie 😊 How are you

[astral dagger]

Yeah it kinda is

just some getting used to still

as i used 33cm on the mpc450

and this one feels much slower

[noble belfry]

I tend to find I prefer slower pads honestly

I had a phase of glass, (but that was before I played fps a lot) but from an fps standpoint they tend to just be nicer for me personally

at least I feel more consistent, which makes me more confident which tends to me playing better

[astral dagger]

The problem is just i dont know how to use slow pads atm gotta learn it

[inland lark]

just push

[astral dagger]

in kovaak, should I use hipfire or 1x sens?

[pastel trail]

Either

[astral dagger]

okay, ty

hipfire

[near path]

Or neither, really

[worn wagon]

neither

play 25-40 cm

depending on how much mouse control you have

[astral dagger]

Exodus if i have around plat mouse control with 33cm should i go lower to get higher?

[worn wagon]

ranks don't mean too much for me and 33 is good

it's just if you struggle to aim at all you go lower

but a lot of people play 60+ in siege

and it's not worth it playing that in vaaks

[molten apex]

60+ in siege is super comf

y

[astral dagger]

#siege message
is this advice good even when using rawaccel?

[astral dagger]

Finally getting out of this silver elo sometime

[astral dagger]

I just play 28-50 cm In kovaaks

And 40ingame

40ingame is pretty good

[worn wagon]

Playing 50 in kovaaks is only worth it if you specifically target forearm/shoulder muscles

[astral dagger]

Yh

I'm trying to get wrist and arm mouse control better individually, and it meshes in-game

this is not a headshot btw

[astral dagger]

shoulder

obv

[astral dagger]

jeeeeeeees

[primal hamlet]

why you gotta violate that aruni

[astral dagger]

idk man jus dont peek me like that

[primal hamlet]

plat ranked is so weird

and i hate it

[astral dagger]

fax

[primal hamlet]

wish i never started playing this game

[astral dagger]

wish i never got to mid plat

[worn wagon]

Just 5 stack, sweat. If you lost - you are worse. Learn and move on.

[near path]

Just 5 stack

[primal hamlet]

just click head

[vivid jolt]

Can confirm. If you manage to shoot them in the head they'll likely die.

[noble belfry]

So err can anyone explain to me the whole Tempra/Trainhard EUL stuff

[primal hamlet]

if you manage to shoot 5 different enemies in the head in one round

you win

[worn wagon]

Eh

Tempra dropped out

Trainhard got their slot

They needed to keep some people

So they kept 2 players and 2 staff members

[noble belfry]

Thanks Exo

that covers everything I wanted to know

Full french rooster now though, wonder how it'll do

[worn wagon]

Yuki aim in pl

[near path]

Pog question mark

[astral dagger]

no way

[worn wagon]

?

Noera is pretty good

[astral dagger]

just didnt think theyd make it tbh

[uncut marsh]

artisan hien soft or xsoft? which would u guys recommend?

[worn wagon]

Who are they?

Yuki aim isn't a team or an org

There the single siege player in yuki

[tired totem]

Do you guys think godly's level of aim is attainable through training or is it just some one of a kind type of thing

His aim is just so unique I have yet to see another player replicate that type of smoothness

[worn wagon]

Any level of legit aim from players who play the game is attainable

Is it worth it - no

Can you do it? Yes.

Spend over 3500 hundred hours on your mouse control, movement and getting gunfights and no matter how bad you were you will be able to win the majority gunfights vs anyone, including most pros

And that's worst case scenario

Some people can get there in 300

Thing is

You will still need a lot of hours in the game to be good

If you are taking about siege

[near path]

Soft is the safer option

[tired totem]

I just dont understand how he has such unique aim how come there is no one else out there shooting like godly

[astral dagger]

Godly has 15k hours not alot of people come even close

And over the years he has always played on a low sens and stayed very consistent with it.

[tired totem]

true

[astral dagger]

I liked modigga but he has switched games a long time ago

But he didn’t come close to godly imo

[tired totem]

Bro I miss modigga so much

[astral dagger]

His aim was choppy from time to tile

Time

[tired totem]

He actually had the best death stacks in ranked

If you played against him it was almost a guaranteed L

[astral dagger]

Yeah dude was crazy at siege

[worn wagon]

Well modigga was actually good at the game

[astral dagger]

His movement was superb

And he was crazy fast on his sens

I gotta work on that if i lower mine

[worn wagon]

Idk watched 2 minutes of godly latest vid

Only aim I see is him switching between doorways

Nice recoil control tho

[tired totem]

He has insane smoothness

thats more of what im talking about

he has like true smooth aim

[worn wagon]

I don't see aim. idk what you are talking about

[astral dagger]

Yeah gamesense is very good

[tired totem]

im not talking about raw aim

but the way he moves his mouse

[worn wagon]

?

Nothing unusual

@tepid fiber has better smoothness

[tired totem]

He has the smoothest aim in siege

thats what im trying to say

[worn wagon]

Sorry for the ping

[tired totem]

no other players are smooth like that

[astral dagger]

He just pinged one apparently

[tired totem]

in siege

does maddie play siege

[worn wagon]

No

Cs

[tired totem]

ok

How do you train for smoothness like that

[astral dagger]

Most play very low sens for high smoothness

Takes alot of time getting used to tho

And the lower the sens

[worn wagon]

Do you want smoothness or good aim or being good at the game? Ask yourself.
And to answer your question - use primarily arm and shoulder muscles, play low sens in game, train to not tense and get good mouse control

[tired totem]

I am already good at the game p1 rn i am trying to improve my mechanics thats why im in an aim training discord

asking questions about aim

[worn wagon]

Eh

[astral dagger]

The higher ur other game aspects have to be, if u can’t position the right way, hold good angles and get caught of guard low sens will not work

It will to some extend

[tired totem]

You are right vestige

[worn wagon]

Being p1 doesn't mean you are good at the game but it does show you do have decent mechanics, yeah.
If you want good advice:
A. Play the game with good mindset.
B. Isolate important mechanics and practice them(movement, crosshair placement, micro positioning)
C. Get a lot of gunfight experience
D. If you wanna aim train - do it and play good stuff. Most of the boost is mental, but in several month of consistent practice you can improve a lot.

[astral dagger]

Exodus made a list of siege scenarios i saved somewhere, if u only play siege i can paste it here 🤝

[tired totem]

Yea go ahead

I am just trying to improve day by day in aim and game sense I watch hours of twitch every night

[astral dagger]

Tracking:
Smoothbot goated tracking invincible
Smoothbot small
Smoothbot voltaic easy
Air angelic voltaic
Pasu track smooth Tamtargetswitch hard control and tamtargetswitch hard smooth are also very good For reactivity (if you are plat+) do air Voltaic, lddh 82%;
If you are good diamond or above do cfsi Thin UFO, lddh fixed and VSS gsp9 For switching do xentargetswitch
Voxtargetswitch
Voxts rAim
Voxts voltaic
Pattargetswitch90 recoil

[worn wagon]

And eerie cold static routine

Most important btw

Over 50% I'd say should be static

[tired totem]

aight bet

thanks guys

[astral dagger]

Im good at dynamic and suck at static

And np. im a way lower rank then u, but i help where i can. 🙂

And exodus is just a beast ^

[primal hamlet]

speaking of recoil

any tips for horizontal recoil

im fine with like f2 and c8 but when it goes side to side

https://tenor.com/view/sad-baby-frown-cry-tantrums-gif-4649018

[granite ivy]

You can’t really do anything

It’s (pseudo) random so there’s not much to do

Even then, the c8 has very little horizontal recoil

[primal hamlet]

yeah thats what im tryna say

[worn wagon]

What if ubi uses pressure of air to create true random

[primal hamlet]

im fine with guns that have high vertical reocil

[primal hamlet]

they should record background radiation and use that

[granite ivy]

Tbh, the previously theorized recoil system would’ve been good enough

Idk why they went with this system of multiple patterns

It just seems weird

[granite ivy]

Oh mb

[near path]

Same lol

[granite ivy]

Unless the gun has very distinct pull like the type 89 there’s not much to do

You have to keep your gun’s recoil in mind when positioning

Don’t be the guy playing mute/smoke behind a shield peeking an angle 50m away

[astral dagger]

On rA benches its the other way around

I really don’t get it

[astral dagger]

[near path]

On ra benches I accidentally got immortal in bounce while struggling with others to hit plat

Can’t get master bounce in voltaic though

[near path]

Casual

[astral dagger]

faaaaaax

[inland lark]

A gud kill is a gud kill

[granite ivy]

What a great display of skill right there, so good you don’t even move your mouse

[inland lark]

Movement

[astral dagger]

rA bounce has easier movement

If ur good at small dots

Ur better at rA bounce

Less rng

[near path]

Eh

[astral dagger]

It’s not exactly true

As i suck at static

But i really think it’s very comparable on rA benches

[astral dagger]

Got called small blue Man for playing 1sens 400 dpi so I'm not involved

[worn wagon]

Papi evil now?

[inland lark]

bad papi

naughty naughty

[noble belfry]

papi could never be evil

[near path]

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[near path]

still not evil ^

[patent schooner]

[granite ivy]

Sorry sorry, I don’t know why I was a bully

[inland lark]

sadpapi

[uncut marsh]

i say we burn papi at the stake

joke

[patent schooner]

Waiting for papi to buy #siege gamers a flight to brazil

[granite ivy]

[noble belfry]

I still want to visit him in Argentina

Go eat a steak drink some beers or something

Get mugged I think is what you said last time

[inland lark]

Ill just take the steak you guys enjoy more beer

[granite ivy]

@noble belfry

I could use that

[granite ivy]

you're welcome too

[inland lark]

the only shit i know how to do in cons

[noble belfry]

[patent schooner]

so crackeded

[uncut marsh]

am i missing something?

[worn wagon]

I'd love to visit latam tbh

Flights cost a lot tho

[astral dagger]

Just shouldn't work

Lmao

[astral dagger]

@worn wagon u play pl?

Im wondering

[worn wagon]

I coached Apac PL and Class B(roughly tier 2, officially very high tier 3) EU

I coached Granit during Ubisoft Nordic S5 Groupstage. We finished 2nd under chaos(pro league then). This meant we needed to win 1 bo3 to get to CL(officially T2). But we parted ways. They won the bo3 while using the same strats(they had another coach for 2 month, but ig he didn't see need for a change) and qualified

But thing is as a player I am way worse

Ik that if I grinded coaching even harder than I did and worked on research into team psychology marginal gains etc as well as improved my data analysis and data representation I could make it into T2/T1 in major regions and deserve to be there. I failed to qualify for T3 league last time I tried(my regional national league). There were unfortunate circumstances(0 scrims with 2/5 people lmao), but still

[astral dagger]

• Ur hours on the game

Man's got a sick r6 portfolio

[primal hamlet]

sheesh

artisan just arrived

[patent schooner]

😳

Enjoy epic aim boost

[primal hamlet]

my friends one arrived aswell

cant wait to whiff all my shots with a high quality pad now

[patent schooner]

Which one did you get?

Zero?

[primal hamlet]

zero soft

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722914551619911783/783431723068162078/image1.gif

[worn wagon]

it's just there are way better players than me here(Melted, Vladr, Papi, mini, fishoguy etc)

[granite ivy]

only non champ player in that list

tbh, with your knowledge you can definitely get there it's just a matter of grinding enough to improve yourself and then find a team you mesh well with

[raw fox]

[granite ivy]

finding a team is the hardest part, too many idiots out there thinking they're good because they get dia every season

[primal hamlet]

youve hit diamond tho right

[granite ivy]

nope, I was hardstuck p1 when I stacked hard before

now I don't have the time and motivation for ranked

I'll try next season just for prospects

but scrims take most of my free time now

and then I wanna play apex/ow or aimtrain

so I get fucked

[astral dagger]

werent u in gold1 lmao

[granite ivy]

yeah

[astral dagger]

ouf

[granite ivy]

I was trolling hard with irls

[astral dagger]

fairfair

[granite ivy]

it's funny because some brazilians don't want to give us scrims due to our ranks

[astral dagger]

wha

[granite ivy]

because everyone else in t2 here is dia/champ

[astral dagger]

bruhhh

[granite ivy]

so they think we're down bad due to not playing ranked

[astral dagger]

smart

im acc rlly exited to see chalet in comp tbh

[near path]

Meanwhile some eu pros are unranked half of the time xd

[astral dagger]

xD

[astral dagger]

hate the map in ranked tho

[astral dagger]

btw wht rank u in on ow now?

[granite ivy]

hmmmm, I think I hit plat the other day?

idr

[astral dagger]

jees

i havent played ow in timee

[granite ivy]

it's hard because I refuse to play anything else other than s76 and people are terrible at these ranks in my region

[astral dagger]

lmao

[granite ivy]

I legit have less than 200hs and I can see all they do wrong

[astral dagger]

f

[granite ivy]

supports and tanks on my team seem braindead

it's a lot of fun tho

[astral dagger]

ima play ow tonite u reminded me of it lmao

[granite ivy]

it's a lot of fun even when solo, that's why I love it tbh

[astral dagger]

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[granite ivy]

ow solo q hits diff

[astral dagger]

faxx

exept when i get dived by a monkey and a robot

as widow lmao

[granite ivy]

I feel like you can't really do much as widow in low ranks

[astral dagger]

yh yh

[granite ivy]

your team is just unaware and let you get dived too easily

[astral dagger]

shes fun asf tho tbh

[granite ivy]

yeah

[astral dagger]

idec cus the enemy is too fun to hit

cus they duno how to move at this rank

o yhhh every1 worshipps their rank in ow dont they

[primal hamlet]

everyone above silver worships their rank in siege

but icl my friend always finds a way to say hes in masters

[astral dagger]

rlly

idrk any1 around me who properly cares abt their rank

i just care who im playing with/against, not my elo

so i just dont wana be in gold

or low p3 tbh

[primal hamlet]

its more console that cares about rank

but cas players chat some much shit about rank aswell

[astral dagger]

lmao

i care more abt my lobbies elo than mine

[primal hamlet]

i had a silver 1 trying to make fun of me

[astral dagger]

o lmao

[primal hamlet]

because i have a 0.9 overall

in p2

[astral dagger]

i think mines near 1.3

[primal hamlet]

i was so bad when i started lmao

[astral dagger]

how tf u playin silvers in p2

[primal hamlet]

casual

i was playing with some friends

[primal hamlet]

i had a .8 first season

with near 400 games played

[astral dagger]

L

[primal hamlet]

its ok

im still bad

[astral dagger]

f

[patent schooner]

silvers most toxic players

not even high plat has an ego so big than silvers who have 1.5kd

and think they're good because they can kill literal braindead players

[astral dagger]

r u experinced in this subject?

lmao

[patent schooner]

no need to

just die to silver 1 playing bb and wait for the "gn"

[near path]

As a certified casual specialist who have seen all kinds of players, can confirm

[astral dagger]

allchat off is a good idea

[patent schooner]

or

"boosted plat"

last one very epic

[astral dagger]

xD

[primal hamlet]

console players have a different level of ego

90% of these guys go mnk and then think they are some siege gods

[patent schooner]

true

amogus routine now in siege

[primal hamlet]

i found this console mnk diamond giving tips

he said

"play every round like theres only 2 minutes on the clock. Play agressive as hell and push everything. If you feel hesitant to push something, push it even if you have no info. Thats how i hit high elo"

[astral dagger]

bruuuh

[granite ivy]

Probably works when you’re abusing controller players

[astral dagger]

yh watching console champs looks like pc bronzes im ngl

[patent schooner]

ofc playing aggressive works in a platform where ppl are forced to play safer because of their mechanical limitations xdd

mnk p3 in console = pc silver? 😳

[primal hamlet]

p3 in console = pc bronze 5

thats probably too generous

and then call everybody randoms

[astral dagger]

removed myself from xbox like a yr ago

[primal hamlet]

when their names are just variations for jithr and xznxi

[astral dagger]

Xx_........._xX

[patent schooner]

xyzqyxa.

[primal hamlet]

console siege angers me man

😔

[astral dagger]

can some1 send long click timing routine (jus not krascis) plss

[primal hamlet]

eerie static

[astral dagger]

wheres that

[primal hamlet]

wait

lemme find it

[astral dagger]

aiit

[primal hamlet]

do i send the .plo file or the .json

idk

have both

[near path]

json for newer versions of the game

[astral dagger]

thx

idk which to use

i think i have a new version?

[near path]

you probably do

copying both wont hurt

[astral dagger]

fairs

[near path]

how to understand vertical sound?

[primal hamlet]

you dont

[patent schooner]

unbelievable how 90% of the kills for some players are just luck and rng XD

silver knifing the ground after killing bronze 3 in casual

painful experience

[near path]

and stupidity of the opponents

[near path]

everyone knifing the ground is pure cringe tbh

[astral dagger]

get callouts 5head

ns tho

this is day one of me acc playing kovaaks "too much"

[patent schooner]

it's never too much

[astral dagger]

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[patent schooner]

correct

[astral dagger]

lmao

uh sry im one of those

habbit

only when round ends in my defence

[primal hamlet]

godly knife is infectious

you see your teammates do it, you start

you cant escape

[astral dagger]

xD

[uncut marsh]

im gonna order an artisan mousepad but it says my cart is empty, has anyone had the same problem in the past?

[near path]

ye

it happens a lot lately

[uncut marsh]

so what should I do? should i just wait and try tomorrow instead?

[near path]

idk if there are any workarounds

so just keep trying from time to time, I guess

[patent schooner]

yup

[prisma latch]

If it says that its out of stock, go on twitter and find isartisan and join their discord so u can get pinged when there is new stock

[patent schooner]

also if you're desperate and can't wait you could find the most popular models for sale on amazon

a bit more expensive but it's whatever

[prisma latch]

Probably faster aswell though, been about a week and a bit and im waiting for my Zero to come

[astral dagger]

glhf

beaulo wanabe 😦

[inland lark]

Why no lean spam

[astral dagger]

bcus im only wanabe

😦

[near path]

https://twitter.com/aimlab/status/1370442533231296515

Aim Lab (@aimlab)

5 NEW R6S TASKS TO IMPROVE:

🔵 Peeking
🔵 Memory
🔵 Reaction Times
🔵 Audio detection
💥 Countering C4 https://t.co/Ukz4H6WEvb

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Discuss

[inland lark]

What memory?@near path

[astral dagger]

lmaooo

aimlabs

[granite ivy]

Oh god

Gonna give it a try just to see tho

[patent schooner]

get top 1!!!

[inland lark]

Will papi migrate to aimlabs and never come back again?@granite ivy

[granite ivy]

Nah, aimlabs too boring

But I’m curious about the peeking scen

[inland lark]

Same

And just only that

[mental snow]

theyre all awful dw

we had to play them for the dz tournament

dookie

[inland lark]

Lol

DZ x AimLabs

[near path]

I hope muscle

[worn wagon]

You know human benchmark number memory test

Now you gonna do that in aimlabs

[primal hamlet]

Comp for guns with horizontal recoil?

[distant ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP3gMzfC-BQ

[fluid bramble]

https://streamable.com/j3s7d5

[full quail]

Bruh I havent played siege in like 2 months i quit full stop and suddenly im getting the urge to play again😳

Hows the current state of the game?

[near path]

not worse than 2 months ago

[full quail]

Wait idk if i quit 2 months ago but it certainly feels like 2 months

[astral dagger]

It's the same then

[full quail]

One question tho did they fix raw input?

[astral dagger]

Idek

I've just been using it all along

s-musclememory

[bronze spruce]

Changing your sensitivity isn't harmful for practice and likely not harmful at all.

🔸 Read why 'muscle memory' is seen as a meme in aiming https://t.co/q5DGnafCm9?amp=1

[inland lark]

i turned it off once people said there were issues

[astral dagger]

Yh sry my friends think that muscle memory = aim unironically

[inland lark]

yeah no SHIT

xDD

[astral dagger]

So I send them both papis thesis and sinis

Ez

[inland lark]

and did they listehn

[astral dagger]

Nope

[inland lark]

well

sad for them

[astral dagger]

"but I heard it from big ytbers"

[inland lark]

but still didnt believe them

big ytbers

[astral dagger]

No they heard the muscle memory = aim from big ytbers

Apparently

[full quail]

Lol ik some arrogant friends who are stuck on muscle memory and are cracked anyways

If sens isnt a problem no need to change it

[astral dagger]

Yh thing is these ppl got some sens glitch in r6 where their sens is completely fucked and they don't wana change it "becus when it fixes my sens will be fucked"

Like???

[inland lark]

oh thats worse

[astral dagger]

Yep

[inland lark]

imagine changing your sens value from 50 to 49

oh shit my muscle memory gone!!

[astral dagger]

Lmao

[full quail]

Its funny bcz siege and most tac fps in general requires VERY little raw aim so all these content creators are just bad influences

But especially siege the ttk is so fast its actually annoying sometimes how little skill it takes aim wise

[molten apex]

what

[astral dagger]

anyone got some sickass siege aim montage?

[molten apex]

just go watch any of the LATAM pros

or wokka

[astral dagger]

alright

[primal hamlet]

just got told by a console player bandit is better than kaid all the time

after i said its easier and safer to kaid trick

[inland lark]

wokka

[full quail]

REQUIRES

U can have good raw aim but its not necessary especially in siege

[astral dagger]

no u need good aim or bad

obv

[molten apex]

man

every time you type something

I lose braincells

[astral dagger]

lol

[molten apex]

I dont think ive seen you type something correct yet flux

[full quail]

Am i wrong?

[astral dagger]

a bit

[full quail]

Explain

[astral dagger]

r6 is a pfs first and foremost

so without a sense of aim ur just not gona get far

[full quail]

Mans says im wrong then doesnt explain why

[molten apex]

cba

[full quail]

How can u say r6 REQUIRES good aim

When players like fabian and pengu can make it to the top of pro play with having average aim

[molten apex]

pengu legit does have pretty good aim?

lol

like ye you dont need insane mechanics

but say it requires very little aim is dumb

its just

xhair placement and positioning etc takes priority

and I would argue that cs does take quite a lot of aim

most cs players have very good aims

the ones that dont

generally arent in fragging roles/ more supportive players

[full quail]

Thats why i said MOST u idiot

Hard to lose braincells if u dont have any in the first place

And ur basically agreeing with me at this point

[molten apex]

insane

[full quail]

I said MOST tac fps not all

[molten apex]

???

so you make

insanely broad statement

[full quail]

...

[molten apex]

and expect nobody to argue it???

ye ofc if you play hard supp role you dont need insane mechanics ofc

but thats not unique to tac fps

lol

how many players in pro play have legit bad mechanics?

all I can think of is fabian maybe

rxwd did

but hes gone

like

everyone in pro play noadays

[full quail]

Compared to other games u siege is not challenging aim wise

[molten apex]

has at least decent mechanics

????????????????????????????

you said

man

why do I even argue

[full quail]

Its not

How can u say a game with as fast of a ttk as siege is difficult aim wise

[molten apex]

I never said that, what im saying is making such a broad statement of 'most tac fps require very little raw aim' is beyond moronic

aim isnt priority ofc

stuff like crosshair placement, movement, positioning is

doesnt mean

aim isnt necessary

lol

[full quail]

Little doesnt equal none

Game sense positioning and crosshair placement much more important

[molten apex]

you literally emphasised it in such a way

to make it seem

like you hardly need it

lol

[noble belfry]

Saying, You don't need exceptionally good aim to do well, would probably be more accurate

or I guess even good aim

[full quail]

Basically what I meant

[molten apex]

so you worded a statement badly

[full quail]

I have friends on siege who can play 17cm and still perform in high elo so I stand by what I said

[molten apex]

what does that even mean

being able to play at high sens means it doesnt require aim? what?

agent plays quake at like 7cm or smth

thats a game that stresses flawless mechanics

like ye he could be better at low sens

[full quail]

Thats quake which is a tracking based game

[molten apex]

???????

[full quail]

Tracking is easier on high sens

[molten apex]

rail?

[astral dagger]

Being smooth is much harder on high sens

Only tracking that is better on high sens is tracking reactivity and idek if u call that a +

[full quail]

Im terrible at tracking but ive heard static clicking is easier on low sens while tracking is easier on high

And nak i used to troll a lot on this server

[astral dagger]

Low ttk tracking is negligible tbh

[molten apex]

just think

you are talking about stuff you dont know

tbh

[full quail]

Papi do u think siege requires good aim to play at a high level?

anything papi says i listen🙏

[granite ivy]

Let me put it this way

[molten apex]

thats not even the argument I was making LOL

[granite ivy]

If you played perfect siege/cs not necessarily

But

Aim lets you get away with a lot of stuff

You never have perfect utility usage

So aim can help you get through those sticky situations

[full quail]

True

This chat is like the polar opposite of the valorant cag

chat

[granite ivy]

And the reality is that most great fraggers do have really good mouse control

[astral dagger]

w8, im practising click timing on high sens but tracking on low but should i do it the other way round

i feel baffed rn

[molten apex]

well thats because people there mainly ask if kvks can get them out of silver

easier to say no

[granite ivy]

s-papisens

[bronze spruce]

Read: #siege message

[molten apex]

that to argue with a lot of nuance

[molten apex]

just play 6 siege in kck

at 800dpi

perfectly fine for most things tb

h

30-34cm

[noble belfry]

800 6 is nice for kovaaks

33.3cm

[molten apex]

da goat

ye

[granite ivy]

The main difference between a tac fps and say OW is that the degree to which you can reduce the need for great aim is a lot higher in tac fps

But insane aim will always help

Just take a look at bardoz

[noble belfry]

Well if we are talking Hitscan OW

[astral dagger]

i play 5

[granite ivy]

Ofc ofc

[astral dagger]

5 is pretty good with light mice

[astral dagger]

g305

[full quail]

Papi do u have yt or twitch channel?

[astral dagger]

[granite ivy]

Just take a look at bardoz, he probably has better raw aim than most val/cs pros but in game it doesn’t shine as much since playing a tac fps properly means reducing the need to apply it

[astral dagger]

My hands would be hurting

[granite ivy]

Not yet

Buuuut

[full quail]

Damn ok tryna see some gm aim in siege

[astral dagger]

I want to watch papi make vids

same

[granite ivy]

Our new org has a video editor so some highlights might be coming your way soon

[astral dagger]

oo what org?

[molten apex]

grandmaster aiming

[granite ivy]

Wygers

[astral dagger]

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[granite ivy]

It’s a spanish org that’s branching into latam

[noble belfry]

G2 papi?

[granite ivy]

One day

[noble belfry]

s-papi

[bronze spruce]

[astral dagger]

[full quail]

Stan papi

[molten apex]

papi have you played kosei's routine?

its insane

[noble belfry]

Which one is that nak?

[astral dagger]

where to find kosei routine

[granite ivy]

Not yet, I’ve barely had any free time left between scrims and finals

[molten apex]

kosei v4

[granite ivy]

[molten apex]

ill post

[granite ivy]

The fuck majed one?

[molten apex]

?

its called that?

[granite ivy]

Nvm lol

[molten apex]

LOL

[granite ivy]

He once sent it with a name like that

[molten apex]

LMFAO

havent tried the easier one

I wouldnt recommend the normal one to people below gm

shit is insane

[granite ivy]

[astral dagger]

takin easier one then

[patent schooner]

Maybe if the target is very fast and you manage to be smooth on high sens, but for siege you don't need to track fast moving targets because there's no fast moving targets, in that case lower sens will be 8 times easier for almost all things tracking xd

[molten apex]

I have no idea how much easier the easy one is

no harm in trying ig

[full quail]

Tru playing anything under 55 cm on siege feels alien to me

[granite ivy]

Yeah, lower sens is generally easier for everything as long as you don’t explicitly need to be fast

Like in a reactive tracking game

Some insane OW aimers play soldier on 40-45cm

[astral dagger]

50cm

Went 15-1 first day after changing

[granite ivy]

Kovaak’s is probably the only scenario where you really need sth faster

[patent schooner]

yes

[full quail]

Yeah i play 76 cm in siege so having good mouse control not necessary

[granite ivy]

[astral dagger]

My mousepad too smoll

[full quail]

Maybe once i get better mouse control ill go faster

[granite ivy]

Every mousepad is too small for 80cm

[full quail]

Ye I use a hien lol

And gpx

[astral dagger]

😂😂😂

[patent schooner]

go 2cm 😳

[astral dagger]

lmao

[full quail]

So playing low sens is a must

[granite ivy]

Flex

[patent schooner]

who says that

[granite ivy]

Well, actually you kinda shot yourself in the foot by getting a fast pad and playing low sens

[molten apex]

^

[patent schooner]

I play 20 with hien 😳

[molten apex]

fr

shouldve gotten zero

smh

[full quail]

If u have a lightweight mouse+ fast mouspad shouldnt i play low?

[astral dagger]

Yea i did this aswell

Then i switched to a slower one

[granite ivy]

There’s never a should or shouldn’t but lower sens generally means faster mouse movements and you usually need more stopping power

[full quail]

Ahh i see

[astral dagger]

Hien has alot of stopping power tho

[noble belfry]

I mean higher sens benefits from low static fricition

[granite ivy]

That’s the reason why so many people are shilling stuff like skypad + high sens

[astral dagger]

I want a skypad

Only mouse feet wouldnt like it

[noble belfry]

apparently Voltaic ones coming soon

[granite ivy]

fwiw, kosei said they last quite a bit

[noble belfry]

I don't think its too bad on the mousefeet, in comparison to other hard pads anyway, but you can always use some UHMW tape instead

[granite ivy]

like 4-5 months

ofc depends on thickness

but the fact that you'll be playing higher sens probably means less wear

[astral dagger]

Yeah m42 stock feet still need replacement anyway

[granite ivy]

wait really?

[full quail]

I feel like 60-65 cm is really good for siege

[granite ivy]

[full quail]

Once i reinstall ill try 63

[granite ivy]

it's definitely a good range

[astral dagger]

Anything 40+ is good

[noble belfry]

Hotrod teased it papi

[astral dagger]

Depending on the mouse control u have

[noble belfry]

Well mentioned it should be coming

[granite ivy]

I just don't like going that low since I like to keep adsed a lot

[granite ivy]

niceeeeeeeee

[full quail]

High hipfire low ads meta

[astral dagger]

Shaiko was lightyears ahead

[full quail]

12 12 26

[astral dagger]

With 35ads

[patent schooner]

[full quail]

Ok ive been awake 18 hours i must sleep now no more retardism in chat

[astral dagger]

120cm for siege best sens

[granite ivy]

rampy moment

[granite ivy]

gn

[astral dagger]

2 @800 perfect

[patent schooner]

gn

[astral dagger]

Gn

2@1600dpi is amazing

lmao

I actually use 2@1600 rn

Its pretty good

[full quail]

Whos best ash main rn

I have covid sleeps overrated anyways

Ash is life

[full quail]

Im losing it

[random mesa]

@granite ivy how you do on those aimlab r6 scenarios? 😆

[granite ivy]

I haven't tried them yet lol

been busy studying, but I think I'll give them a try a bit later

[simple quail]

I thought most siege players use a bit higher sense than other tactical fps.

Been on 30 cm for a while, recently switched to 40. Is that high?

[noble belfry]

Well I mean a lot of siege players play with low sense, but it depends what you mean

I guess hipfire is quite often higher than other tactical fps (in the 30's) but most use low ADS multipliers so the scopes are much slower

Look at Shaiko, 33.3cm hip fire, but 80+cm 1x

[simple quail]

I use 1:1 for every scope and hipfire.

[molten apex]

noooo

[simple quail]

What about Beaulo.

Why is that bad?

[astral dagger]

beaulo uses 44 i believe

1x scope right?

[simple quail]

Yeah, I thought you were supposed to have the same for every scope.

That's what I have at least.

[astral dagger]

most pros switched to lower ads

and have high hipfire

[simple quail]

It helps for me cuz sometimes I like walking around unads.

idk though.

I'll try a lower sensitivity I think.

[near path]

so your 2x cm/360 is the same as your hipfire? and the same goes for 6x?

[simple quail]

Yeah.

[noble belfry]

I was also wondering about this

[simple quail]

Every single scope.

[noble belfry]

That sounds rough

[near path]

have you tried playing kali? lol

[astral dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH6TO1-63UU&ab_channel=Benjamaster2k

benjamaster does the same

[simple quail]

No, wouldn't it be the same because its the same sense?

[astral dagger]

hes at 34cm for everything

[noble belfry]

the issue is if its the same cm/360 given the magnification of some of the higher scopes it should feel stupid fast in comparison

[simple quail]

I don't even know if I have proper conversion.

[near path]

having 30 cm/360 with 80 fov will feel very different from having 30cm/360 with 8 fov

[simple quail]

Oh, I'm pretty sure mine factors in fov.

[near path]

then it's not 1:1?

[simple quail]

So it feels the same, not same cm/360

[astral dagger]

nevermind btw benja also has fov calcs from siege

83 ads

old converts

[simple quail]

I'm pretty sure mine is good.

yeah its like 83 ads and then for the individual scopes you put senses that make it feel the same

[noble belfry]

visiomonitor scaling then

Well no

its not if you are doing 83

[near path]

visuomotor would be 50 for all scopes, wouldnt it?

[noble belfry]

but you are just using 1:1 with hipfire and 1x, and then just scaled 83 to each scope

I think that only applies if you are on 16:9

[simple quail]

How do I make everything the same then? I play 4:3

[near path]

the same in terms of what?

[noble belfry]

you probably need to adjust it by a few, depending on your aspect ratio, but I think I also saw someone say 53-56 would actually be the right calculation I have no idea though I could never work out the math

Well find it

[simple quail]

Feeling the same.

pretty sure its 58 for 1x

[near path]

https://jscalc.io/calc/owqD7YSQyTD3Rli1

[simple quail]

oh, thanks.

[patent schooner]

ye it's not always same formula depends on the sens you're using

for me 1x 1:1 is 59

[solid rampart]

mfs are still hiding behind the bomb in 2021?

[prisma latch]

More reason to hide behind it since they changed the bomb design last year

[granite ivy]

tbh, with the old bombs you could hold very strong pixels

now they're a bit less useful

[worn wagon]

Congrats @mental snow

Nova soon?

Also which static scens do you have gm scores in?

[noble belfry]

Ooh all the Gm aimers in siege 😮

[near path]

how many of them?

[molten apex]

0

[worn wagon]

Nak is ex gm

Buckshot is gm

Papi is gm

[molten apex]

man

gotta do it to me like that

[worn wagon]

Ok

Nak is gm

Sowwy

[molten apex]

lol

[worn wagon]

156 love

[molten apex]

156 ♥️

[mental snow]

thanks Exodus

https://twitter.com/VladrR6/status/1370842698001833986?s=20
dropped a vid if anyones interested, lot of pro scrim clips in there too

Vladr (@VladrR6)

uploaded a ~20 min comp clips video with the occasional ranked clip
https://t.co/EqdkCPNGSL https://t.co/39aEFwm9WI

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 13, 2021, 9:02 PM

[simple quail]

Could someone fill out the values for me and tell me which values I need to input into my game. I honestly just don't get it.

90 fov, 5-5 sense unads, 4:3 aspect ratio, 800 dpi

Don't really know what is what.

[worn wagon]

Vladr love

@mental snow mind answering a couple questions about aim training?

[pastel trail]

Click circle

[mental snow]

Not really a good person to ask, but go ahead

[worn wagon]

well IK

but I ask different groups of people

and I like talking to people of all level

and you are p good at vaaks and rlly good at the game so

why no

t

1. Is aim training worth it?
2. Do you think Higher sens(20-32cm/360) on a fast pad(Hien, Skypad) is benefitial for control? Do you think lower(36+cm/360) sens on medium/slow pads(Zero, AC+, Gigantus V2) it better for consistency in tac fps?
3. Name 3-6 most useful scens and briefly whyt?

[near path]

https://twitter.com/BroCanadian/status/1370845849442471943

Troy 🇨🇦 (@BroCanadian)

Stepping away from competitive R6

Read: https://t.co/p6TBDIb2Ic

Twitter · Mar 13, 2021, 9:14 PM

[worn wagon]

tf?

Vladr.ssg

When

[simple quail]

what rank is vladr?

assume diamond or champs

[mental snow]

slower = more consistency in tac fps especially siege where u only need to land 1 shot to get a kill

aim training is worth it but waste of time if ur not developing ur aim in the game you want to specialize in

1wall 6targets small, tamtargetswitch control hard small, 1wall2targets_smallflicks 60s, Pasu Track but bot is kid with adhd, Pokeball 1w2ts Horizontalish, Floating Heads 1600% (forgot specific name)

some good ones

i'm champ and gm Greasy

[worn wagon]

Eh

Well

[noble belfry]

New clip dump is great Vladr

[worn wagon]

If 1w6ts is a good scen you might wanna talk to eerie about static

[mental snow]

For siege I prefer doing that scen for speed, not acc

[worn wagon]

Eh

But thanks for you answer very much anyways

[vivid jolt]

Baited.

[worn wagon]

But I suggest you try out eerie static

You might discover way better static scens

[vivid jolt]

https://twitter.com/Siege_GG/status/1370850344180285441?s=20

SiegeGG (@Siege_GG)

Canadian Announces Retirement from Competitive Siege

Read: https://t.co/AvW364bbtY

Likes

287

Twitter · Mar 13, 2021, 9:32 PM

[simple quail]

If I have different ads and hipfire sensitivities which should I train with?

[vivid jolt]

F for the second fallen hero.

[simple quail]

Canadian too?

[patent schooner]

any rA benches bronze gamer in #siege ? 😳

[near path]

Whichever you want/feel comfortable in kovaaks

[full quail]

Is it true theyre removing 1 tap function for some guns from longer range?

[noble belfry]

Pengu + Canadian casting duo?

[near path]

More like analyst x)

[noble belfry]

true

[near path]

Op analyst desk

[full quail]

Oh ok one of my friends was trying to tell me this

[primal hamlet]

I have some glitch where I can't yellow ping

I've tried rebinding it and all that

But it doesn't work

And it's only one 1 account

[astral dagger]

f

itll pass in a bit

i had it at some point

[patent schooner]

this scene is op for siege

[astral dagger]

just ranomly itll go

[astral dagger]

long name lol

o yh i fucking hate tiny static scenes

like where the target is like 2 pixels

and every single click timing/static routine i have has those little shits lmao

[simple quail]

@near path Thanks man.

Also, should I be training with stretched rez if I play stretched?

[patent schooner]

no

[astral dagger]

i do it jus cus it feels better lmao

[simple quail]

okay

Do most people do it or no.

[astral dagger]

no

[simple quail]

aight

[worn wagon]

It's not worth it to practice your in game sens, res or fov

[simple quail]

wdym

what sense/fov do I use then

[worn wagon]

25-40 cm depending on what scenario do you main and how much control do you already have and do you want to achieve

And 103 ow for everything, maybe raise fov for switching, but then again, switching itself isn't the absolute most useful thing

[simple quail]

If I have decent control and want to achieve maximum possible which cm should I use.

Also heard its good to switch it up occasionally

[worn wagon]

You might be mistaken since kovaaks standards are very very high, but I'd say 25-30 in vaaks and 34-50 in game

[worn wagon]

Mey

You can try tho

[simple quail]

okay.

currently 40cm/360 everything

i think ill try 30/cm training and 50/cm ads in game after what I learned today

Thanks.

[simple quail]

So i'm using the calculator right now to try and figure out my new stuff

I have 6 hip with 39 1x ads is the closest i get to 50 cm

how would i make this feel the same for every other scope?

I'm thinking maybe I could use the ratios for the 1:1 everything including hip, but I don't know if this would be accurate

for example the 1 and 1.5 times scope ads senses are 58.308 and 98

since my 1 times is 39, if multiplied 39 by (98/58.308), would I get the sense for my 1.5 times scope?

Can anyone confirm if this is correct

also does anyone know what [debug] fov adjustment is?

[inland lark]

Long name scens 🐐

[patent schooner]

yes

[simple quail]

@vivid jolt

[untold otter]

Yo boys is the zowie mouse worth it

I’m planning on trying a new mouse and I currently have the regular g pro wireless.

I’m planning on getting the zowie za version.