#siege

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astral dagger
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Yes

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I mean i have decent understanding, but there is big brain ppl in #tech

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like they just know it all

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@astral dagger going lan tho?!

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Perhaps

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Lans are off rn

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So not until next year most likely

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Becuase of the virus

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ik

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but Mini at LAN yay

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I was meant to go to lan this year but it was cancelled

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carrydin

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hitting P

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on stage

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I'm just waiting for whatever league replaces esl CL

frank compass
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FaceIt for NA

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idk for OCE

normal bloom
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my res/fov are never comfortable

frank compass
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same

astral dagger
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Same

normal bloom
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thoughts on render scaling

normal bloom
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holy shit i hate this game

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extreme discomfort

astral dagger
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set aa to off

frank compass
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Uh

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Vulkan runs well

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TAA 25-35 sharpness w 180 as the fps thing

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works pretty well for me

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and I only lose out at like long ranges with holo

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and by long ranges I mean like 40m+

normal bloom
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i miss the og temporal filtering

frank compass
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mhmmmm

astral dagger
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TAA should be off

frank compass
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if you arent running vulkan

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yes

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if you are running vulkan

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no

astral dagger
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whats the difference?

frank compass
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Vulkan has the target fps feature

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which works through the game changing your render scaling depending on your current fps

astral dagger
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ohh

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i didnt know that

normal bloom
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the inaccuracy in csgo is such a bad mechanic

astral dagger
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you mean spread?

normal bloom
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ye first shot spread

night radish
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I read that in warowl’s voice

frank compass
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warowl's voice makes me mental

coarse valeBOT
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GG @frank compass, you just advanced to level 31 !

astral dagger
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S P R E A D

vivid jolt
frank compass
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garbage

vivid jolt
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Ying needs the fattest backspace.

frank compass
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mhmm

vivid jolt
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I've never been so quickly annoyed. 0-400 in 0.2 seconds.

frank compass
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you shouldve seen hurls today

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w ying

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shit was disgusting

astral dagger
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mozzie upside down

vivid jolt
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Ying is my new permaban.

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It's been Bitchbeard ever since bans were released. Every single game.

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Ying is now it.

astral dagger
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mad cus bad

normal bloom
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lol i was like kinggeorge raging earlier

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neighbours probably think im retarded

dawn coyote
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you cannot spell annoying without ying

vivid jolt
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Ying flashed Border Offices back desk. I was on triple wall with my face turn the other way in the corner.

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Full blind.

raw fox
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3 speed frost sounds fun

normal bloom
normal bloom
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interesting optic choice

astral dagger
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I never understood aim enthusiasts who don’t mod mice like stock glides and stock cables seem so Boring and hinder performance like stock zowie cables are ew

normal bloom
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mm710s cable is nice

astral dagger
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anyone link me model d aftermarket skates?

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i cant find any

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also whoever said thunt isnt good for improving aim in r6 ur so wrong

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Mm710 has one of the best stock cables but a paracord will always be better due to safely reasons all cables have a special coating around them with paracord they don’t that’s why they’re so flexible and light

normal bloom
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i literally had the bare cables exposed for my fk1 lol

astral dagger
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0_0

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They have them photon cables they are just super thin wires

normal bloom
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ye surprised i didnt break it

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wanna get a helios but the xls are often sold out

astral dagger
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just

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bbw

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?

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stock cables are trash, paracord are less trash and bbw's are actually good

normal bloom
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bbws?

astral dagger
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bare braided wires

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1sh

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very good mechanic

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yes yes

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definitely very competitive

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i guess its the guys fault he lost that peek

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thats a rly sweet one

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hes just bad idk

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smoke is at the other side of the map

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you dont have a jager

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ying should be onspot by now

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im filling for my friends

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they arent the best

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also jager is banned

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idk why

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i do that in ranked

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when im attack first

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lmao

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ying meta abuse

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yes

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yep had to deal with it all game

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it is so much fun tho

normal bloom
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didnt you play 25cmish hurls?

astral dagger
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not at all

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why do you ask ?

normal bloom
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mustve been bo

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i cant play high sens to save my life

astral dagger
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i play like 30ish

normal bloom
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im whatever 5-5-70 1600 is

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tis aids

astral dagger
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how fast

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is your hip

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wtf

normal bloom
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too fast for my below average wrist

astral dagger
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and you play like 70 ads

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wtf

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i think you are on like

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28cm

normal bloom
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i just switched

astral dagger
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in hip

normal bloom
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usually play 40cm ads

astral dagger
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but with 70 ads its like 30+ still

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so its fine

normal bloom
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19.95 hip according to aiming pro calc

astral dagger
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oh god

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i was wrong

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then its bad

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i couldnt do that

normal bloom
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to be fair jolly is pretty good for like 9cm ads

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a massive handicap on his potential though

normal bloom
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playing 12cm 1x rn

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im useless

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manual spinbot

noble belfry
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I haven't played siege in ages and am now having a sens crisis again

normal bloom
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10-10-70 1600 you wont

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im like 1080deg tking

astral dagger
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you shot twice

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did you do dmg @astral dagger ?

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nope

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no assist for him

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well

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first bullet

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got blocked

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by deer then

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as i thought

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i think this is when it went out

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idk

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hard to tell with the recording

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but it actually wasnt a headshot

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or above his head here

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its hard to tell when the frames is at which it comes out

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garbage low rpm guns too

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this is why a 1 shot headshot mechanic

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is so frustrating

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but thats just siege things

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yeah its pretty bs

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i have 0 time to react before he gets off 7 bullets or whatever

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mini clapping cheeks

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i have 0 time to react before he gets off 7 bullets or whatever
@astral dagger the thing is hes far away from the door you are close so he has perspective and has height advantage, he prob saw you first

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and he has one of the best guns in the game

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you can be mechanically better than him

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you still lose

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like you probaply are

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but doesnt matter in this game

normal bloom
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so i hit this amazing shot

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bosg hs hipfire 1080

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and my relive isnt working

astral dagger
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sucks to suck

normal bloom
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is there a good non gpu specific recorder?

astral dagger
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not that i can think of

night radish
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Obs and streamlabs

normal bloom
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can you shadow record with them?

astral dagger
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it is so dumb

normal bloom
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ooh you can with obs apparently tyty

astral dagger
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i dont even know what operators i am gunfighting

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why are skins in ranked

normal bloom
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be cool if there was a client side option

astral dagger
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WHY DOES RANKED GET ME MORE SWEATY THAN COMP

inland lark
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😮

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are you playing w ur comp team:?

night radish
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Here to serve, 42069

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Probably cuz you play pro stacks min

astral dagger
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im having a heart attack

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no its with some ranked demons

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its really frustrating having to explain how to play the fuckin game to plat 1/diamonds

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should i be practing more my acog sens or my 1x scope sens

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on kovaaks

raw fox
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Generally you will find yourself playing with 1x/hip for the most part in this game so it would be a good idea to practice sensitivities around your preferred siege hip and 1x in kovaaks.

astral dagger
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yea

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i already have my acog sens and 1x sens

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but ty

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this website helped me

surreal cosmos
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should u practice with hip? i only do 1x practice

astral dagger
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@normal bloom relive is so bad i hated it and tbh amd gpu's are meh cpus they are amazing gpus not so much good for budget builds but nvidia have better recording and more power

astral dagger
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YEAH

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im done with this game for like

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until monday

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i guess they smoked off defuser

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lmao

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after their thermite got spawnpeeked

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they literally smoked it

frank compass
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LOLOL

night radish
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You see so much dumb shit lmao

frank compass
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mhmmm

astral dagger
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slappy

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maybe im just better than you

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i see what you dont see

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and when i point it out it becomes obvious 🤔

frank compass
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I find it hard to believe hurls is better than anyone

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after yesterday

astral dagger
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XD

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im joking

frank compass
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I loved it when they started calling you out as a 0.8KD silver

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that was my favorite

astral dagger
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ye

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my na kd

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is 0.8

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silver

frank compass
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through hard work and effort

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I got into plat 3

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😎

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very big accomplishment for me

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now my ego can be big n stronk

astral dagger
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insane

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time to ego gold 1s

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now that you are p3

frank compass
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😎

carmine pier
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non primetime westcoast siege is the best siege

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nothing but diamond stacks from japan and mexico, adore it

astral dagger
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prob more fun to play

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than avg ranked games

frank compass
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west coast is always japan and Brazilian stacks

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and shitty cheaters

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the mexico stacks are usually on SCUS or EUS

carmine pier
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My ping to br is wayy higher than what they had

frank compass
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that doesnt mean much

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my friend in the netherlands gets 80 ping to EUS and I get 120-140 to WEU

vivid jolt
night radish
raw fox
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i tilted velly in 10 mans, shit was fun

mental snow
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@astral dagger Drop KXXS in ears

astral dagger
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anyone got the link to all you need to know about artisan?

cerulean quest
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Hey what are the best scenarios for siege aim, my mouse control is down I just want to practice realistic movement as t hunt is shit

frank compass
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thunt is the only place to practice movement for siege lmao

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ranked/unranked/casual also kinda work

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but there is a lot of downtime

cerulean quest
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Fair enough, I hate it so much when I die to a little c4

frank compass
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and you wont be moving as much if youre playing properly

cerulean quest
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The bots don’t move as well lmao

frank compass
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shoot the c4s lmao

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if you want to practice against siege movement you play ranked/unranked

cerulean quest
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I crank music when I practice though lmao

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Yeah fairs

frank compass
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if you want to practice your own movement you play thunt

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theres like 5 C4s/map now

cerulean quest
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I’m tryna hit plat rn

frank compass
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they arent hard to find

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and theyre always in the same 10-20 spots

cerulean quest
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I’ll probs turn down the music eh

frank compass
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i play thunt with max music and 2 in game volume

cerulean quest
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Should I do defence t hunt or just elim?

frank compass
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elim

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unless you want to practice a defender's recoil

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defuse is the best

cerulean quest
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Like defence is so bad but when I used to play cav the pistol was good

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Why is defuse best?

frank compass
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most targets

cerulean quest
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That’s good

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I’ll probably just use attacker guns with similar weapons to defence

astral dagger
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defuse

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is 36-38 targets more

night radish
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LETSFUCKING GO

frank compass
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damn

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I was literally

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1 point above you

night radish
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i saw hahaha

frank compass
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and now you got 101 on me

night radish
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2 diamond tracking scores

frank compass
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damn

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nice

night radish
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who wouldve thought id get em before clickling lol

frank compass
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I also have 2 now smileyblue

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0 master scores

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1 more tracking, 3 more movement, and 2 more clicking for dia 2

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:)))))))))))

night radish
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whats reqs for d3 again

frank compass
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there isnt a 3

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dia/master/gm 2 is 3 scores in each category

night radish
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yeahj i know i fucked up and tytped 4 insteadf of 2 lol

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i type too fast and dont care to correct

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what mvmt scen you do?

frank compass
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Close FS Easy, LGC3, Pasu dodge

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are the only 3 Ive tried

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i wish lgc3 wasnt 2 minutes long

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kinda aids

night radish
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i really like lgc 3

frank compass
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yea

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spawn rng

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and time

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make it kinda shit sometimes tho

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Like Ill hit ~44-60% for the first minute

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then I start to hit low 30s

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and its just really annoying

night radish
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agreed

astral dagger
frank compass
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suffering

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its like fucking 4am hurls

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wryd

astral dagger
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fucking

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ppl in ranked

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we get a guy who disconnects for the whole match cuz he has 1000 ping

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i and mate carry to win

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he reconnects gets elo

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next round we have him on our team again

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LIKE WHY DOES HE EVEN Q AGAIN

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he literally cant play the game

night radish
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bruh teh comment lmaoooo

frank compass
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i just saw that

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lmaooooo

astral dagger
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is there an issue

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with it ?

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his mom couldve swallowed him

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atleast still wouldve gotten some proteins

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less waste than his existence

frank compass
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jfc

raw fox
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washed sperm victory royale shit player aint he

lime wyvern
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oh

night radish
frank compass
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3/6?

night radish
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5/6

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i have my two ts

frank compass
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v cool

vivid jolt
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My THunt K/D ratio is hilarious.

frank compass
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what is it

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cause mine on my main is only like 35 or 40

vivid jolt
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14.3.

frank compass
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LOL

night radish
frank compass
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it's 85 no?

night radish
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FUCK

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nvm

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lmaoooo

frank compass
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yea

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was gonna say

astral dagger
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lmao

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imagine playing kovaaks

frank compass
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hurls

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die

astral dagger
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If you actually believe bot moving left and right without even pressing jump is anything simillar to real person, you are one delusional kid. Like i said gl practicing your drills, soon ull become a bot yourself.

frank compass
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omg

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that's like

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the 20th time

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in the last 36 hours

astral dagger
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cuz its so funny

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idk

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i can read it like 20x times a day

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still funny to me

night radish
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thatsa copy pasta

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?

astral dagger
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yes

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?

night radish
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oh didnt nknow

vivid jolt
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Should mention I don't play THunt to win. I play on Hard/Realistic and put myself in the worst position I can to simulate pressure.

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But still it looks awful on paper ahaha.

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Also Defuse.

frank compass
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Hard/Realistic

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are pointless

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cause they just aimbot 2 shot you through walls

astral dagger
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mood

vivid jolt
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Yeah realistic is only when I was practicing first bullet accuracy. Regular THunt on single fire mode Realistic. Forces me to hit the head or die.

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I only ever play nowadays on Defuse Normal or Hard and just try to run in the open.

frank compass
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Defuse Normal

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best

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but I mostly do elim, cause i can cycle guns faster

night radish
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Im so disappointed rn

vivid jolt
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Why are you disappointed, Slappy?

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What's wrong, my son?

frank compass
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he got 82 on b180

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and didnt realize bench is 85

astral dagger
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lmao mate just called fat on voice chat

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and he just answered

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"yes cuz everytime i fuck your mother she makes me a sandwich after"

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im dieing XD

frank compass
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hurls

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its like

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6am for u

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wtfffff

normal bloom
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fleshlight gaming stamina

astral dagger
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i need like 3h of sleep

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and like im not tired

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literally doesnt matter

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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sadly im not some kovaaks elitist

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who thinks his schleeping schedules is the way to insane aim

frank compass
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lol

normal bloom
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how do you not shake on 3 hours sleep?

astral dagger
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?

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what

normal bloom
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i get shaky hands

astral dagger
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idk

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adderal and coffein

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?

normal bloom
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i feel like those would make it worse

astral dagger
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i did

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joke

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thing

vivid jolt
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Undisputable Siege Fact #36: Your teammates icon will be perfectly placed above an enemy when they're not looking and it will cost you a death.

astral dagger
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i remember last time i accidently took tilidin i had rly smooth aim

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can recommend

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Undisputable Siege Fact #36: Your teammates icon will be perfectly placed above an enemy when they're not looking and it will cost you a death.
i just shoot anyways

vivid jolt
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HUD icons and names need to disappear when fully ADS'ed.

astral dagger
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Maybe its mate maybe not

normal bloom
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yeah ive always loved the hud customisation of the bf series

coarse valeBOT
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GG @normal bloom, you just advanced to level 15 !

astral dagger
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how do you not shake on 3 hours sleep?
btw all the jokes aside it prob is cuz im used to it

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body adapts

normal bloom
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probably

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maybe because youre younger

astral dagger
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boomers smh my head

normal bloom
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or just something wrong with me

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yeah legit feel like a boomer at 20

astral dagger
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prob with me

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you are old man

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the future is now

normal bloom
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im elderly

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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i mean toast is such a boomer

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look at his reactivity

normal bloom
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hahaha

astral dagger
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like those tracking scores

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hahahah

lime wyvern
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hahahaha

vivid jolt
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Don't let me beat yo ass.

normal bloom
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frail old soul

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beat yo ass with his walking frame

astral dagger
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spank me toast daddy

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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😩

astral dagger
inland lark
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I want sleepy's tracking score so badly rn

raw fox
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whos dat

inland lark
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Uh oh

frank compass
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whos stream

vivid jolt
frank compass
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yea

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the "How a Champion"

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videos

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are the worst trend to ever exist in the siege community

vivid jolt
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I'm not mad at the community for making those titles and thumbnails. I'm mad that those videos get double the views than ones that don't.

frank compass
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lol

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I wanna say Spoit and Godly started it

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now everyone does it

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fucking dogshit trend

vivid jolt
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Godly man.

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That dude grinds the cheapest content he can. He squeezes content for every last drop.

frank compass
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like even jolly started doing it and the only reason I liked his content at all before is because he had simple titles and thumbnails

vivid jolt
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I understand it. I respect the dude. But I can't lie and say it doesn't feel cheap.

frank compass
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that didnt abuse the "how a champion" shit

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nah shits mad annoying

vivid jolt
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I'd rather watch Noted than Jolly.

frank compass
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its like the "How a Pro..." for CS content

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ew

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Noted

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I dislike him on a personal level

vivid jolt
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Shame because I really respect Noted on a person level. Just incredibly disrespect him on a player level.

frank compass
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uh

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you havent heard the stories I have

vivid jolt
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Perhaps not. Enlighten me if you'd like.
I know he was a cuntbag back when he was in Pro League.

frank compass
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for starters, one of his teammates on Pain(?) had a parent/grandparent (idr) die and he made jokes about it constantly according to friends of the player

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which was one of the reasons he was dropped/left the team

vivid jolt
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Yeah I meant current day.

frank compass
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idk much about him from the past 2 years

vivid jolt
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He owns that he was a terrible person previously. So I don't count him off for that.

frank compass
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Like

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maybe Im not giving benefit of the doubt

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like i did for Pengu back like 2 years ago

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but like some of the shit he said was just so fucking vile

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and the difference to me there

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is Pengu was just extremely ignorant

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idk maybe same shit applies

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but idk how/if noted has improved as an individual

normal bloom
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relive is not workin boyze

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now*

frank compass
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what is?

normal bloom
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amd’s version of shadowplay

frank compass
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O

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Obs replay buffer >>>>

normal bloom
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ok so recoil tracking is really good prac in thunt

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track a point while moving and shooting

astral dagger
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I don't like pengu as a person

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I like him as a player

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He pretty much ruined someone's career for a year

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And esl and ubi didn't do anything about it

vivid jolt
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That's not really Pengu's fault. Pengu can point something out but it's up to ESL to pull the trigger and make a conscious decision. It's not like they'd ban somebody because another pro wanted them to. There had to be some other factor, whether right or wrong- and probably wrong, but still the factor must've existed.

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And that comes entirely down to ESL's shady doings.

warm girder
vivid jolt
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Which is this?

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Oh it's probably 1w6s.

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I ride the struggle bus so hard with 6small. ppHands

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Good stuff though. Beat me to 1200.

tepid cosmos
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100% accuracy wow

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That takes patience

noble belfry
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@warm girder what sens do you use out of curiosity?

warm girder
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12-12 84ads 400dpi

astral dagger
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Pretty close to my sens

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I'm close to beating fishos 1w6t te

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I can smell it

warm girder
tepid cosmos
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what is it

astral dagger
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180

noble belfry
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Thanks peepoHeart

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I really think they should just replace 1w6t te from the benchmarks though

tepid cosmos
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reload scenarios are alpha

noble belfry
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yeah

normal bloom
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acc scens are aids

carmine pier
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sparky siege tage when

normal bloom
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actually

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pretty sure there was an aim group that did community montages

night radish
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Toast go look at leap 180 reload leaderboard lol

frank compass
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if mini was referring to shaiiko

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he did that to himself when his multiple moss files implied he was macro'ing

carmine pier
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yeah aim assist @normal bloom

astral dagger
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he did that to himself when his multiple moss files implied he was macro'ing
@frank compass actually no

frank compass
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actually yes

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Ive had this conversation about 1000 times

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in the past 3 years

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90% of people dont know how to actually read a fucking moss file

astral dagger
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well

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moss was garbage

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at that time

frank compass
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moss hasnt had any major updates

astral dagger
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multiple pros with the same shit

frank compass
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in 3 years

astral dagger
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in their files

frank compass
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lmao

astral dagger
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3h video by begenius that proves how it doesnt work half the time

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lmao

frank compass
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talking to multiple pros/coaches about how moss works

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and how to read a moss file

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vs a 3 hour video by the org that got fucked out of a spot because one of their players was macro'ing

astral dagger
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?

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thats like saying

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because someone is arguing agains what he got accused of

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he must have done it

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lol

frank compass
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what?

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no it isnt

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also

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idk if youve noticed

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but his burst fire pattern

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he doesnt do anymore

astral dagger
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theres a 19 page report of pros with "similar" moss files, then 4 key is standart key bind to gadget, and the vid they did demonstrating how unreliable it is

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it doesnt disprove that he macro'd

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but its obvious that the case was handled poorly by esl

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and you cant be sure if he actually macro'd or not

frank compass
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ESL also didnt release

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all of the evidence

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they had against shaiiko

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and the only thing they said

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was he macro'd

astral dagger
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but his burst fire pattern
tbh i feel like this is more like looking for stuff that supports it

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then an actual argument for that he couldve macro'd

frank compass
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huh

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the burst fire pattern

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was one of the things that was constantly brought up

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but whatever

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this argument is pointless

astral dagger
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well true

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i guess the whole argument is

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but atleast its for sure that he doesnt cheat atm , and he counts to one of the best fraggers in pro league imo

carmine pier
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fucking ying

raw fox
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yes i would

astral dagger
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yes.

raw fox
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shes 5'3", im 5'3". both of us can smash in the back of a prius

night radish
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Lmaoooo

astral dagger
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whats 5.3

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in non degenerate units?

frank compass
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like

raw fox
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1.6 m

frank compass
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160cm

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ye

raw fox
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its either ying or iana, in the back of a prius

astral dagger
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how short are you buck

raw fox
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iana is 1.57 in rest of the world units

astral dagger
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wtf

raw fox
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1.6m

astral dagger
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lol

raw fox
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i dont mid being short

astral dagger
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you wanna be my egirl?

raw fox
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the be is just bigger

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bed*

astral dagger
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xd

raw fox
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cant complain

astral dagger
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yeah i want to see

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how big you are laying in my bed

raw fox
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about 1.6 french baguettes

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or meters

astral dagger
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XD

raw fox
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little spoon hours, got a big backpack

astral dagger
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buck senpai carry me UwU OwO

raw fox
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im gonna stop you right there

astral dagger
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I wont stop you... 😏

noble belfry
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Wait iana is only 1.57 and shes suppose to be dutch

raw fox
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space

analog halo
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But wouldn’t you grow if you’re in space?

astral dagger
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myth

vivid jolt
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I really think they should just replace 1w6t te from the benchmarks though
Will do.

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sparky siege tage when
When you all submit enough high quality multi-kill clips. Also after I stop being lazy and finish my own video.

astral dagger
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multi kills

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?

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if i run 3:2 in game

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or just insane shots

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waht do i put for kovaaks

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pingssssssssssss

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is there a setting for aspect ration

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check the pinssssssssss

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ok

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gracias senor

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put it to the vertical 1:1 setting for messurement

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and then put in the right resolution

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should be 3:2 then

astral dagger
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ok

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i dont see a 1620

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@astral dagger

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nevermind

night radish
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Replace w what? @vivid jolt

vivid jolt
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Thinking Wide Wall.

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Not sure.

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I'd prefer a flick scenario but the kovaak-mains think 1wall6targets small is already "FLiCks."

night radish
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Lmao no its not

normal bloom
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are there worthy reload scens?

night radish
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None of those scens are flicks

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Pasu and bounce not flicks

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Acquisition or reflex please

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🤙🏻

vivid jolt
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If you tell them that, they'll call you stupid and say "it is all flicks, it's just slower flicks"

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I want to replace Bounce 180 with Leap 180 Reload.

night radish
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Dude

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Please

vivid jolt
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That seems to be considered.

night radish
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Or b180 reload

vivid jolt
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Very likely that we're replacing CFSE Dodge with PatTarget 180 Dodge (no bodies) [yet to be made].

night radish
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1w2ts reload is a better flick than 1w6t anything

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I think we all can agree there yeah

vivid jolt
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Still, we've established fast strafes suck for benchmarks (rng and pattern learning) even though decent tracking reactivity practice. But nobody will recommend anything for replacing CFSEI. I'm the only one who has recommended other horizontal tracking scenarios but they've been shot down.

night radish
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Yeah trackin that

normal bloom
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surely tali

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do the tracking benches have an acc multiplier

astral dagger
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theres always arabians in your low elo ranked games at night on eu

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its so wierd

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how is this actual words ?

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shit is funny af tho

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playing agains cheaters in low gold

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2nd game

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almost everyone in this game is wallhacking atm

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nice anti cheat ubi

raw fox
astral dagger
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THREE ROUNDS WITH THE EXACT SAME TEAM MATES

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WHAT IS THIS MATCHMAKING

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they get 80 mmr a game i get fucking 19 on my smurf

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how am i still in their elo range

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hm, the interesting thing is, when you change mouse hands you get to decent aim levels insanely fast again

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but getting good on your keyboard

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mechanic wise

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it takes ages

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im still so dogshit

normal bloom
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i cant imagine switching hands

astral dagger
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you could if you would were left handed and would switch to left

astral dagger
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i am dieing

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inside

raw fox
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i cant see bc of that dust

frank compass
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mmmmmmm

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dust

astral dagger
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its bank upstairs

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mira reinforced one site of the softwalls towards stairwell

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and puts in miras

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leaves the other part of the wall soft

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so he can play miras into heaven

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we had to reinforce next to her

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to stop this

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XD

astral dagger
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@frank compass just had my eu mate kill our na plat randoms in voice chat

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i am a friendly person in comparsion

frank compass
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Hmmmm

astral dagger
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funny af

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yeah sorry i really havent written anything lately

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mb

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hes so much better than me

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how are 1 shot headshots

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a good experience

vivid jolt
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I haven't written anything either. Kind of wanted to let the community do it rather than me write in everything not yet done.

astral dagger
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i know when i start writing its really fun for me

vivid jolt
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Damn he's insane though.

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You're just worse.

astral dagger
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but i dont have no motvation tho

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yes toast right

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its such a skilled mechanic

vivid jolt
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Don't say 1 shot headshots shouldn't be for every weapon or else Reddit will destroy you. pepeLaff

astral dagger
#

xd

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his spray control too

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rng headshots

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make a good 30% of hs

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in my experience

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt then on the other hand... i just love doing this

frank compass
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1shs dogshit mechanic

astral dagger
#

true

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my clip

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is so unskilled

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its rediculous

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its just bullshit i shouldnt be able to play gunfights like that in an fps

frank compass
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I didnt mean

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ur clip specifically

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I just meant

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in general

astral dagger
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did you see the hibana clip

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?

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above

frank compass
#

no

astral dagger
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scroll up

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try not to cringe

frank compass
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I dont have to

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im pretty sure

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ik what it is

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by the thumbnail

astral dagger
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no

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do it

frank compass
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its literally

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what I thought it was

vivid jolt
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Guns like that deserve 1shs. Not all guns should not be 1shs.

astral dagger
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wdym

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my silenced pistol

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deserves to kill you across map

vivid jolt
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High damage pistols should be 1shs. Low RPM guns like the UMP should be 1shs.

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Like a headshot should be a 2.5x multiplier. So if a bullet does 40 damage it's an instakill.

frank compass
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I think they should just make hs 2.5x multiplier

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across the board

vivid jolt
#

But Ela's random spray won't instakill you. Or something. I just pulled that number out of my ass.

frank compass
#

accounting for damage drop off and penetration

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that would fix

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most of the issues with the mechanic

vivid jolt
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Also reduction for wallbangs.

astral dagger
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no wallbang

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should be a 1shs

vivid jolt
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No, if I kali you in the head you should definitely be dead no questions asked. Wall or not.

frank compass
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@vivid jolt thats why i say 2.5x across board, cause walls already soak 33-50% damage

astral dagger
#

yeah

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but thats a sniper it makes sense

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but like

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9mm

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no

frank compass
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Kali 1sd

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through walls

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so

vivid jolt
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The TCSG. Glaz. Deagle. Idc what dry wall says, you're dying.

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It should just be reduced.

astral dagger
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ye its fine with those

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cuz its semi

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not 900rpm

frank compass
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or

vivid jolt
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Famas sprays shouldn't.

frank compass
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make hs multiplier

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scale

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with rof

astral dagger
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but famas is an ar toast

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if other ars 1shs

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its wierd again

frank compass
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=<640 is 4x, =<760 is 2.5x, =<900 is 1.75x, >900 is 1.5x

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I think that would be good

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there is def some room for adjustment there

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but off the top of my head those values look good

night radish
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Useless argument at this point

astral dagger
#

in theory you have to balance with firerate

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to a certain way

frank compass
#

I mean yea @night radish

astral dagger
#

but you would literally have to introduce multipliers as a gunstat

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which is wierd to do

frank compass
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but it's nice to think abt

astral dagger
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and isnt "reAliStiC"

vivid jolt
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Useless argument at this point
Improvement is never useless. That's a very flawed mindset that I don't think they exhibit.

frank compass
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I mean

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UBISOFT

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isn't going to change the mechanic

vivid jolt
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They're just bad at improving the right way. They're not bad at trying to improve.

frank compass
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therefore it is a pointless argument

vivid jolt
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They rework ops all the time.

frank compass
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well no

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theyre bad at both

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they dont do it correctly

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and they usually wait way to long to even attempt to change things

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and my main reasoning for the latter statement is that they implemented operator quarantine SPECIFICALLY to avoid another Lion

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and they have not utilized it AT ALL

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There have been no meaningful operator changes to new ops (that I can remember) since they implemented the quarantine in Wind Bastion

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pretty sure it was Wind Bastion and not Grim Sky

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and the only TTS change I can recall from pre-release was taking away Maverick smokes and giving him flash bangs

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so I would say they are both bad at improving the right way and trying to improve

vivid jolt
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I'll happily lead the Ubisoft Bad At Implementing Changes Train, but I don't think it's out of the question at all.

frank compass
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when you say you dont think it's out of the question

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are you implying you think ubisoft is or can be good at TRYING to improve the game?

astral dagger
#

siege - stare at a dumb mira

frank compass
#

one of my favorite tweets

astral dagger
coarse valeBOT
#

GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 40 !

frank compass
#

I saw that yesterday

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I considered putting it in here

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but was like

#

meh

astral dagger
#

to funny

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kanto virtue ctzn uuno

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all jager as fav op

#

in the analytics i think

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love fabian

#

why is it so true

#

idk if i should laugh or cry

frank compass
#

LOLOL

astral dagger
#

I am very frustrated with this game right now

#

It's in a terrible place

frank compass
#

mhmmmm

astral dagger
#

And has been since release

frank compass
#

well

#

it has had its moments

#

actually

#

I wanna do a paint graph now

#

one sec

normal bloom
#

imagine if fabian was actually hired

astral dagger
#

I think the only time I was conformable with the game was during parabellum

normal bloom
#

velvet shell was nice from memory

frank compass
#

i feel this is generally accurate

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parabellum should prob be a bit higher

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grim sky was pretty ass tho

astral dagger
#

Teleporting rappel
Silent rappel
Prone dropping messes up hitbox
No sound propagation
No sound through unbroken windows
Terrible sound all around
3 speeds don't make sound
Silent hardbreaching
Debris covering cam los
Attackers winning with a 1v1 trade
Dust filling rooms
Ying is broken
Shields are still broken
Utility for defenders through the roof
People making no sound through barbed wire
Terrible balancing changes
And ubi just misunderstanding what pickrates on a graph means

frank compass
#

mhmmmmm

astral dagger
#

Jager having such a high pickrate doesn't mean he is broken

#

He is necessary for the defence

frank compass
#

but wamai!!!!!

astral dagger
#

Wamai doesn't have the same utility

#

His is significantly weaker

frank compass
#

I wouldnt say significantly

#

and it is the same utility

#

well

normal bloom
#

ish

frank compass
#

the primary gadget is the same utility

#

but he has a deployable

#

which is v good

astral dagger
#

And with them adding nades to every operator, ying buff and all that he is needed more

#

Wamai cant have his utility with him in places jagers can

#

You can't have wamai put his utility on blue stairs bank

frank compass
#

with all ops having nades wamai is stronger

astral dagger
#

For example

frank compass
#

because it is harder to burn his utility

#

I agree mini

#

its not EXACTLY the same

#

but at its core

#

its the same utility

#

it does the same job

astral dagger
#

Jager has 30% more utility and 30% more useability I would say

#

And his pickrate does not reflect that he is op in any wayv

frank compass
#

Wamai has a better gun and deployable shield

#

which balances that out

astral dagger
#

Its just the meta calls and has always called for a jager

frank compass
#

but yea

#

I would agree

#

Wamai's main issue

#

is the fact his gadget is timed

#

while jager's is place and forget

#

thats the major difference that I see at least

astral dagger
#

Wamai should have 6 things at the start of a round

#

Have barbed wire and have a shield

frank compass
#

no no no

#

absolutely not

#

fuck that

astral dagger
#

Why not?

#

He has the same utility as jager now

frank compass
#

that would exaggerate the issues

#

with the meta

astral dagger
#

If they balanced the meta changing operators there wouldnt be a problem with wamai having 6 ads like jager

#

Which he does have by end round anyways

frank compass
#

he has 5

#

max

astral dagger
#

Well give him 5 start of round

frank compass
#

id be fine with 4

#

at start

#

but 5 is too much

astral dagger
#

So would I

#

But a single operator can clear all of his utility

#

And shield as well

frank compass
#

ying

#

ash

astral dagger
#

Ying, Ash, zofia

frank compass
#

zofia cant

#

ash can

astral dagger
#

She can

frank compass
#

ying cant

#

zofia has 2 concussions, 2 impacts

#

she cant clear all his gadget + shield

astral dagger
#

Ah well if its end of round yes

frank compass
#

ying cant clear his shield

#

I mean rn defense has too much projectile denial

#

in conjuction with too much utility

#

that needs to be cleared with explosives

#

if maestro is taken down to 1 cam

#

and smoke has his shield removed

#

then its less of an issue

astral dagger
#

I disagree on most maps I find projectile denial is fine

frank compass
#

kafe and clubhouse

#

are hell

#

Border is hell

astral dagger
#

With proper teamwork all ads can be removed easily

frank compass
#

but at least border has better vertical play than kafe offers

astral dagger
#

You usually have a set of 6 flashbangs, 4 candellas, 2 smokes, 2 grenades and 3 thatcher/2 more grenades (mav if thatch is banned)

#

Or - 2 nades if you switch sledge for iq

#

But my team usually runs therm, sledge, Ash, ying, thatch/mav

frank compass
#

uh

#

I havent played comp since ying buff

#

and PL hasnt either

#

but

astral dagger
#

If she's unbanned it's a meta pick

frank compass
#

yea

#

def

#

IQ/Flex, Therm/Hibana, Sledge, Thatcher/Flex, Nomad/Thatcher

#

err

#

fuck

astral dagger
#

But that's 19 projectiles

frank compass
#

its so map specific

astral dagger
#

Compared to 11 ads

#

Which usually can be shot

frank compass
#

some maps arent as bad with the clearing as others

#

Kafe is really bad

#

Clubhouse is really bad

#

Consulate, Border, Coastline are very doable

astral dagger
#

I find kafe is easy to clear and club very hard to clear

frank compass
#

Theme Park is kinda shit and idr the last map

#

I find Kafe hard to clear and still have time to execute

astral dagger
#

I haven't played theme Park yet

frank compass
#

whats the 7th map in comp pool im forgetting?

#

Im blanking so hard

astral dagger
#

If your entries are ballsy, the preplaced drones are good and vertical play fast you have time to execute just fine

#

But it's forced to be 40 seconds or less

#

On maps like club depending on the site I can be ready for execute by like 1:20

frank compass
#

Club its easy to set up fro execute early for 2/3 sites

#

cause its such a familiar map

#

but the problem is you need picks

#

for Club

#

to execute before 45seconds

astral dagger
#

If its bottom site I pretty much always rush stock hatch first bottom defence

frank compass
#

for all sites but Church

#

rush stock is only viable against SSG roam

astral dagger
#

And then properly clear when the team adjusts for a rush and moves until from roam to site

frank compass
#

SSG roam is kinda dead in NA this meta

astral dagger
#

No it's viable all the time unless it's a full turtle

frank compass
#

like most teams have just been heavy utility dumping site

astral dagger
#

Which isnt common

frank compass
#

idk I see more teams

#

full turtle basement

#

than mute/mozzie roam

astral dagger
#

Maybe it's regional

frank compass
#

but again both of our opinions are based off of personal experience

#

so

astral dagger
#

There is 99% always a roamer first defence for me

#

Unless a team is scared of you