siege

[astral dagger]

wait

[frank compass]

i think he means he uses X or T for walk

instead of the default alt

he just double binded it

[astral dagger]

goated keybinds

[frank compass]

BenQ XL2411

goated 144hz monitor

[astral dagger]

ahahaha

imagine not having PLÖÄ for movement , OÜ for lean, I for reload, J for nades , , for crouch

etc

[frank compass]

hurls

[astral dagger]

ye

[frank compass]

german ?

[astral dagger]

obvsly

[frank compass]

just wanted to check

german keyboard is weird

[lime wyvern]

left handed pog

[frank compass]

play falko binds

arrow key movement, leaning on the buttons above arrow keys

numpad for everything else

[astral dagger]

thats

retarded

wtf

@lime wyvern left handed actually superior

i got better genetics

for sure

[frank compass]

I think if i tried left handed aiming

it would be worse than controller

ESDF, VB lean, A crouch, Z prone sounding really appealing rn

[astral dagger]

I think if i tried left handed aiming
@frank compass you think the aiming part is hard lmao

[frank compass]

but then QW, XC are unused

nah

I think I could move right hand keyboard

[astral dagger]

its the keyboard and the coordination

[frank compass]

it would just take a day to adapt

[astral dagger]

i literally coulndt move without running into a wall

[frank compass]

I dont think I could coherently move my mouse

[astral dagger]

it would just take a day to adapt
nice joke lmao

[frank compass]

nice formatting

wait

[astral dagger]

xd

[frank compass]

how do you quote like that

?????

am I stupid

[astral dagger]

skillz

[frank compass]

:(

pain

[astral dagger]

wait
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L

[frank compass]

Press F to pay respects to aljo's sanity as he looks up discord markdown for the 16th time this month

[astral dagger]

lmao

[frank compass]

I FIGURED IT OUT

AHAHAHAHHAHA

finally

[astral dagger]

lol

[frank compass]

i feel really dumb now

[astral dagger]

gratz

xd

[frank compass]

ass

[astral dagger]

i suck
@frank compass

nice

no need to hate yourself mate

[frank compass]

pain

[astral dagger]

time to only talk like this

looks way nicer

just perfect

[frank compass]

my search for the most efficient keybinds (for hold lean) starts now

I shall return in 20 years

[astral dagger]

theres no reason to look for that

[frank compass]

boredom

[astral dagger]

i mean you dont rly need to push the buttons insanely efficiently

[frank compass]

is always my answer

ofc you do

efficiency is everything

having super scuffed binds to piss other people off is also a benefit

[astral dagger]

ye same

when ever someone asked what button he has to hit

say some shit like

"

and then they trigger and go like

[frank compass]

no no no

I dont do this to trigger enemies

[astral dagger]

i MeAn tHe deFauLt KeY

[frank compass]

I do it to piss off my friend

because he fumes whenever he hears about some of the shit Ive done

settings wise

[astral dagger]

xd

[surreal cosmos]

I do it to piss off my friend
hm

imagine having 144hz monitors

[frank compass]

I want a 240

[lime wyvern]

my shot has improved. He couldn't even react

[frank compass]

OK

switching to esdf

too hard

or at least switching from thumb crouch is too hard

[surreal cosmos]

i want a 75hz

[frank compass]

unfortunate

[dawn coyote]

@surreal cosmos have you tried overclocking your monitor? i overclocked mine to 75hz

[surreal cosmos]

yeah i did

63hz

no difference imo 😅

[tepid cosmos]

I doubt going from 60 to 75 will feel much different

imagine how crazy 60 to 240 must feel

[surreal cosmos]

yeah. eyeing a 144hz laptop

[tepid cosmos]

[surreal cosmos]

more like :(

[frank compass]

60 - 75 is kinda noticeable

60 - 120 is very

120 - 144 is really only noticeable when tracking fast moving targets imo

idk how 240 compares to 144

but from what Ive heard, its similar to the jump btwn 120 and 144

[vivid jolt]

YO. We've created a Siege community tips document where we can... well... write everything there is to know about improving in Siege and the optimal ways to play the game.

[frank compass]

:D

[lime wyvern]

I can notice 120 from 144 from moving my mouse

[vivid jolt]

DM me your email so you can edit and contribute to the sheet!

[lime wyvern]

I mean looking around

[vivid jolt]

Heuristic of Siege - by Sparky Siege Community
Tips and Tricks for everything Siege
https://bit.ly/3eoVo1J

[frank compass]

we'll hopefully at least have a decent amount done by the end of today or so

he says as he sees Toast already did a lot

[vivid jolt]

I barely did anything. Only spent like 15min formatting.

[noble belfry]

Someone should put your copy-paste lean tech guide @frank compass

Its already helped peeps

[vivid jolt]

Either DM me your email so I can add you or just @me with it in chat.

[frank compass]

is the lean tech guide my check and x thing? @noble belfry

or wdym

[noble belfry]

Yeah

Thats what I meant

[frank compass]

ye

Im trying to type it out so it fits with the format better

[noble belfry]

but the ticks and clicks are clear, but yeah I see what you mean doesn't necessary fit in with the rest

[frank compass]

if someone wants to look over what I wrote for leaning

Im sure it could use a bit of editing/could be more succinct, just lmk

[astral dagger]

@frank compass was going to put the exact numbers for barrel attachments in

[frank compass]

that works too

You can have that one if you want

[astral dagger]

but you seem to be on it rn xd

[frank compass]

nah feel free

Im just bouncing btwn

[astral dagger]

im gonna put the numbers and some text

then we look over it

[frank compass]

do you have the actual numbers for the effects?

cause idk them off the top of my head

[astral dagger]

just gonna finish my game rn

yeah i have them

[frank compass]

oh ok then

yea

its prob better for you to do that

Idk how up to date r9's vids on attachments still are number wise

the effects are still the same tho

[astral dagger]

yep

gonna put the numbers

the general effect

and some info

@vivid jolt pls put in that "on my deathmark" or "here" arent good calls

[frank compass]

Barricades might need some more/some tweaking

for sound can we just put: "Very unreliable"

?

[astral dagger]

xd

[frank compass]

I think that is the most accurate way to describe it

[astral dagger]

i can draw an explanation of the system in paint

np

[frank compass]

for sound propagation

when it works

I can tackle settings, I am very well versed in that topic

[astral dagger]

aljo gonna do "keybinds"

[frank compass]

WASD is superior

ESDF too hard

I had unsurprisingly the same issue today when i tried it that I had 2 years ago

Im trying to think for operator synergy/team comp

[astral dagger]

that is

advanced

[vivid jolt]

Gotchu. Good call.

[frank compass]

yea the problem w team comp/op synergy is there are some very basic ones

(Thatcher/Thermite)

and you can advise what utility to have in a team compo

but it varies heavily meta to meta and also just based on what the other team is bringing

if anyone wants to add anything to the keybind write up, Im sure Im missing somethings

[astral dagger]

we need to do combat basics

like fucking refragging

[frank compass]

but I felt that covered most of it

Trades, Baiting, and refragging

or how to drone a teammate properly

would be very good to have

and very hard to write up

[surreal cosmos]

refragging is hard to type out

[astral dagger]

@surreal cosmos dude solaris im working on it xd

the muzzle break part comes later

[surreal cosmos]

whoops

we should include appendix wiht an up to date list on best attachments for every gun

and we could divide the guns up so each person could test 5 guns

[vivid jolt]

DM me your email so I can add you to the sheet, Sol.

[astral dagger]

@vivid jolt thats the idea

thats why i start with numbers 👍

[vivid jolt]

I figured you did, so I deleted.

👌🏼

[astral dagger]

im not just gonna put

Muzzle break

best for dmrs

end.

[frank compass]

Flash best overall attachment

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

I mean it is

[worn wagon]

U guys doing smth alike a guide for siege?

[frank compass]

its in pins

and yes

basically

Im trying to explain multipliers easily

[worn wagon]

Toast is involved, right?

[frank compass]

but its very hard to put into words

Toast is the head of the doc, yes

I think me and hurls are the other 2 main contributors?

[astral dagger]

so far

@frank compass how dare you

xd

[frank compass]

I figured most ppl dont know what is meant by recoil diamond

[astral dagger]

yeah im putting that in

im gonna do the recoil control part aswell

[frank compass]

epic

[astral dagger]

and put it like before or after it

[frank compass]

my sensitivity section

is so scuffed

lmaooo

[astral dagger]

DUDE XD

format

your shit

what is that xd

[frank compass]

its the best I can do :(

[vivid jolt]

[noble belfry]

%USERPROFILE%\Documents\my games\Rainbow Six - Siege <- is the domain path for the file for xfactors

[frank compass]

Im good at formatting spreadsheets

[noble belfry]

the way I'm reading it its alright

[astral dagger]

fuck

anyone has the stats

of the grips ?

[frank compass]

Vertical is 25% less recoil

Angled makes it ads as the next class

so ARs ads at smg speed

Thermite ads at regular AR speed

SMGs ads at super speed

[astral dagger]

Ye gonna see if i find a sheet for the speeds

[frank compass]

the old stats for angled are wrong

because of the ADS change

[astral dagger]

ofc

[frank compass]

and I dont think R9 has updated it

I might be wrong tho

[astral dagger]

Vertical is 25% less recoil
@frank compass horizontal ?

[frank compass]

I think its overall

it was 25% less like 1.5 years ago

mightve changed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8Q9sTXYbQ

Wait

thats a 3yr old video

LMAOOOO

^ that should actually be right

[astral dagger]

thats old recoil model

that shit

aint rifht

[frank compass]

yea but the stats

should be correct

putting 25%

is prob fine

[astral dagger]

well i dont take the angled

but ye

[frank compass]

40% sounds right tho

[astral dagger]

the thing is idk how the vertical reduces recoil

if its the diamond

or vertical

[frank compass]

Its the diamond

[astral dagger]

nah never

[frank compass]

try Twitch with and without vertical and no barrel

and youll be able to tell

[astral dagger]

more horizontal ?

or only more vertical

[frank compass]

it should be more horizontal with similar vertical

without grip

[astral dagger]

ok imma test

[frank compass]

I might be wrong

but it should be the diamond

[astral dagger]

oh yeah

it reeeeaaaaly pulls top right

similar vertical

a bit more

but yeah prob recoil diamond

[frank compass]

someone read what I put for Resolution/FOV and tell me if it makes sense

I dont really wanna get into fighting over preferences

[astral dagger]

just put in

5:4 80 fov is goated

2m wide heads

do that

[worn wagon]

Also @frank compass add the fact that you can get in through door with 2 slamms of a barricade without destroying it

[snow marsh]

maybe some1 could cover kaid tricking cuz im more familiar with bandit since ive been playing him since velvet

[frank compass]

its the same concept

you just have a smaller window of time

i can do it tho

[snow marsh]

ight ill try to word that good

oh thank you

[frank compass]

I played a lot of Kaid in comp

[astral dagger]

@snow marsh then put in the bandit tricking

[frank compass]

yea I suggested it go with bandit tricking

Ill put it under and we'll just split the topic

[worn wagon]

Also you should add impact tricking

[astral dagger]

ye

[frank compass]

Theres few places I can think of impact tricking

but yea

we can add that

[worn wagon]

Whole villa, club

[astral dagger]

Can i reserve entry fragging ?

[frank compass]

sure

ok

I think I finished settings

[worn wagon]

Villa master to statuary, study to gaming and aviators; club CC to construction, church to short, kitchen hatch

Also border armory wall(2 ways), Kafe prep to bakery, even a coconutbrah one on canal

[frank compass]

armory one in ranked is really raer

but the other ones I can put in

[worn wagon]

Bank CEO walls

Themeapark throne room

[frank compass]

which wall of throne?

cause its very inconsistent

in my exp

[astral dagger]

the one to yellow

[worn wagon]

Same tbh, haven't tested property tho

[frank compass]

ok yea

yellow works if its not placed crouch

[astral dagger]

they 3 all work the same

[frank compass]

no cause on the two throne walls

it can get fucked up

[astral dagger]

as they are simmilar height , size and material

[frank compass]

if you dont hit it on the metal bar

and it hits too far up

[astral dagger]

well yeah

fuck the metal bar

[frank compass]

yea

its just super inconsistent cause of soft floor

Toast's explanations look so professional lmaooo

meanwhile mine....

take entire pages

[astral dagger]

@frank compass yeah imma just put flash hider best there, and cry when i see the next person with a flash hider on glaz rifle in my ranked

[vivid jolt]

Bro I'm trying to not sound like an idiot by repeating myself but make it flow.

I feel retraded.

[frank compass]

just put it's generally recommended to run flash on most automatic guns and muzzle on single fire weapons @astral dagger

[astral dagger]

thats comming..

[frank compass]

@vivid jolt i do the same but then repeat myself trying to over explain a topic while making it simple enough for an idiot to grasp

which is what I tried w multipliers

[astral dagger]

nah

most idiots wont read it

the ppl that care about multipliers understand a bit more complicated stuff id say

[snow marsh]

i feel like i dragged out the bandit trick while trying to be descriptive but also clear

[astral dagger]

maybe i can look through stuff when im done with mine

[frank compass]

@vivid jolt might be helpful for optics: https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/rainbow-six/siege/news-updates/6kY6b5JByBY3P6vQWWinla/fov-and-input-sensitivity

has the exact FOV % for everything except kali

[vivid jolt]

Yeah I know of it. I already calculated the FOV decreases before it came out.

They're accurate.

[frank compass]

yea i remember when they finally released that

[vivid jolt]

I don't know Kali's though.

[frank compass]

I was so happy

uh kali is x4 and x12 pretty sure

idk what the % would be tho

[vivid jolt]

Took them too long but it's a Godsend for sens.

[frank compass]

actually

I can check rn

what it is

[vivid jolt]

I think she's a 6x and 12x? Or a 5x and 12x?

5 right?

[snow marsh]

should there be a kovaaks conversion thing, so people can use https://jscalc.io/embed/lJgwOPudGEBnjD66?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=JSCalc Blog&utm_source=JSCalc blog to convert there settings

[frank compass]

ye 5x and 12x

so

5x is 22%

12x is 9.2%

[vivid jolt]

Could do, Dave. It's already pinned in this chat but we could definitely provide a hyperlink.

[frank compass]

I have it hyperlinked in the sens section

[vivid jolt]

Ah. Too good.

[snow marsh]

nice

[vivid jolt]

Again, if anybody wants to contribute, you're totally free to. Just DM me your email.

[frank compass]

I would also link that calc cause its more in depth, but its really unnecessary and would prob confuse some ppl

(the one I just pulled the FOV % from)

Im trying to think of hatches to kaid trick

but motos the only one on the top of my head

[astral dagger]

oh im fucking putting in that you dont put silencers on pistols

to shoot

gadgets

[snow marsh]

wat about bank hallway hatch?

[frank compass]

LOL

OH

YEA

BANK

thats the other map I was trying to think of

thank you

[snow marsh]

np 🙂

[frank compass]

Bank was out of the comp pool

so I was blanking hard

i knew there was another one I kaid tricked on

[astral dagger]

i swear all those silvers

who take out their pistol

with a silencer

to shoot some default cam

[snow marsh]

xd

[astral dagger]

fucking

hurts

[frank compass]

I wish mute tricking was still in the game

although I cant think of any spots that is still applicable

[snow marsh]

or better yet, the red dot suppressor on smg 11 love seeing that EVEN IN PLAT

[frank compass]

Red dot in general

disgusting

I think I covered kaid tricking well

someone give it a read over pls

@astral dagger you should put ur spiel abt attachments after everything instead of just after barrels

@astral dagger also i can format the numbers into a table if you think it would look better

idk why I @ you twice

[astral dagger]

nah i put the attachments all at once for clarity

and then the explanation

[frank compass]

kk

I put a clarification in suppressor

:)

also

EXT barrel on Vector is goated

[astral dagger]

XD

@frank compass oh lol you actually put in the link

[frank compass]

yea

[astral dagger]

yeah i was to lazy i just wrote it down xd

[frank compass]

yea i figured

suppressor changes like2x a year

pr sure r9 will get sick of vids on it soon

[astral dagger]

they maybe put dmg reduction

to only 10%

if we trust china leaks

[frank compass]

sure

theyre right 80% of the time

[astral dagger]

yeah

jager 2 armor with c4

[frank compass]

waiiiiiiiiit

[astral dagger]

and doc 2 armor with impacts and no acog

[frank compass]

c4 jager

tf

I do NOT want another mp5 no acog

[astral dagger]

i do

its fun

way more fun

[frank compass]

that gun got nerfed into the ground and fucking sucks without acog

no

the Oryx exp is bad enough

do not force me into P90 run and gun w doc

[astral dagger]

oryx is worse than tachanka

and its not the guns fault

[frank compass]

it is the guns fault

[astral dagger]

nah p90 also loses acog

[frank compass]

i know

but for 1x

Id rather use the p90

[astral dagger]

oryx ability is a joke

[frank compass]

I mean

[astral dagger]

and it will forever be

[frank compass]

it has a few uses

[astral dagger]

its fucking useless

XD

[frank compass]

it has 1 use in comp

[astral dagger]

my impacts have the same impact

[frank compass]

but hes not worth bringing over the utility you lose

[astral dagger]

and jumping up a hatch makes him useless on certain maps

[frank compass]

Kafe upstairs

[astral dagger]

and on half the bombsites

[frank compass]

he very good

cause you can break all the bars

and take 0 dmg

[astral dagger]

and you cant pick him over any essential

hes literally garbage

[frank compass]

Hes not great

[vivid jolt]

This is where having your keyboard tilted 45deg hurts.

My forearm is on fire.

[astral dagger]

whats another ar to use compensator with like the r4c

?

[frank compass]

this is where having my kb in my lap is not any different than normal

uh I use muzzle on r4c

[astral dagger]

yeah cuz your dumb

[frank compass]

the only gun I run comp on from memory is Bearing9

no

[astral dagger]

but thats not what im asking

[vivid jolt]

@astral dagger L85.

[frank compass]

youre dumb

[astral dagger]

thanks toast

[frank compass]

L85 is a flash/muzzle gun

[vivid jolt]

Nahhhhhhhh

[frank compass]

yes

[astral dagger]

aljo is trolling

lmao

[frank compass]

no

Ive ran every attachment on that gun

and always go back to flash

[snow marsh]

muzzle on r4c is the way fam

[frank compass]

def

[astral dagger]

yeah ok its good that i do attachments and not you aljo

[vivid jolt]

Then we'll do one less controversial: C7E.

Wait.

No.

[frank compass]

C7E is flash

[vivid jolt]

I think that one's Flash.

[astral dagger]

c7e is flash

lol

[frank compass]

Twitch

[snow marsh]

yessir

[frank compass]

Comp isnt bad

[vivid jolt]

Fuck me.

[astral dagger]

twitch flash is nicer

[frank compass]

Twitch is Flash or Comp rn

[astral dagger]

cuz 1st shot

[frank compass]

yes

[snow marsh]

muzzle for me

[frank compass]

her gun is big doodoo

very bad rn

[snow marsh]

on god

[astral dagger]

ye twtich is bad op atm

[frank compass]

Hibana?

[astral dagger]

not viable in comp

[vivid jolt]

OH

m249.

[astral dagger]

and nerfed to shreds for pubs

[frank compass]

but Type is still a Flash gun

WHAT

[vivid jolt]

That one's Comp.

[frank compass]

WHO THE FUCK

DOESNT USE FLASH ON THAT

[snow marsh]

hibana has like no reocil

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

YOURE TROLLING

[astral dagger]

@vivid jolt ye i was about to list lmgs for comp but i wanted a second ar example

[frank compass]

hib muzzle used to be the play

FLASH ON ALL LMGS

WHAT

[astral dagger]

you are so dumb aljo

[frank compass]

YOU ARE ACTUALLY TROLLING

[coarse vale]

GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 38 !

[astral dagger]

xd

[frank compass]

nah

dumb

[astral dagger]

dude they have no vertical

[vivid jolt]

TF?

[frank compass]

my opinion is better

[vivid jolt]

Nah Comp for all LMGs.

[frank compass]

No

[astral dagger]

thats why u use compensator

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

Flash

on all lmgs

[astral dagger]

no vertical means you dont need an attahcment for it, thats why u use comp to reduce rng horizontal recoil,

[frank compass]

G8 and M249 better w flash

and Ying

[snow marsh]

[vivid jolt]

V308 is comp, no?

[frank compass]

comp

yea

[astral dagger]

ye

[snow marsh]

yup

[frank compass]

but who uses lion anymore

[vivid jolt]

Haven't played Lion in a century, though so I can't remember.

[frank compass]

its comp/muzzle rn

depending on your spray style

Im gonna add aljo's suggested attachments

you guys are trolling

trying to mislead these poor kids coming for good advice smh

[vivid jolt]

One day I'm going to spent a whole day of my life sitting in THunts shooting walls to find out objectively what is the best barrel attachments for each gun for the easiest controllable recoil.

[frank compass]

I do that every patch

[vivid jolt]

L85 is comp though.

[frank compass]

for all the ops I primarily play

no

Flash

[vivid jolt]

I'll fight you on it.

[frank compass]

Ill win

[vivid jolt]

HANDS UP.

[frank compass]

🤜 🤛

[acoustic oar]

Suppressor btw

[frank compass]

🤜 ✊

[vivid jolt]

[snow marsh]

[frank compass]

I actually need to check what guns I use comp on now

cause I think its only Bearing this patch

[astral dagger]

THERE IS NO BEST

[acoustic oar]

Suppressor no grip and red dot on ela

Op

[astral dagger]

you either use flash comp or muzzle

according to whats best with the gun

@acoustic oar i run angled grip

[snow marsh]

honestly i havent tested recoil since like wind bastion so i use muzzle on everything except bandit and ela cuz yea

[acoustic oar]

@acoustic oar i run angled grip
@astral dagger same

[frank compass]

Yea

I actually

only use comp on the bearing

and flash on mostly everything else

I run angled on most that have it

Thermite/Ela/Valk are my exceptions to that rule

[vivid jolt]

I meant **for each gun.

Not one for all guns.

[frank compass]

Flash is best for all

except bearing

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

:)

[snow marsh]

XD

[coarse vale]

GG @snow marsh, you just advanced to level 4 !

[frank compass]

like all the guns I use muzzle on could easily run flash and thered be little difference

[astral dagger]

toast is flirty

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

flash on ela >

[acoustic oar]

No muzzle on ela

[frank compass]

ew

thats worse than comp

[astral dagger]

flash on ela is wierd

[acoustic oar]

Thats a blood orchid recoil

[astral dagger]

i mean it makes sense

but it also doesnt

you can argue both ways, you can say that ela recoil gets uncontrolable after the first few bullets anyways so you do flash

[frank compass]

Comp is too bad for the first 10 shots

[acoustic oar]

All muzzles on ela is wierd

[frank compass]

Muzzle is too bad for all shots after 4

[astral dagger]

but you can say you use comp cuz its bad when her gun is best

[frank compass]

Flash is fine for 14 shots and doable on full mag dumps

[astral dagger]

ye flash is prob better

gonna change that

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Comp was best on her gun when it was peek

because it kept it fully straight

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comp inst best with the start of the spay on ela

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Yea

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and after that its hard anyways

arguebly not worse

cuz idealy you wanna spray reset

when it gets uncontrolable

[frank compass]

I think Flash/Comp on ela are similar

[astral dagger]

and thats when comp would start being worth

[frank compass]

but flash gives you more range potential

[snow marsh]

random question, but how do i change my name on the server or is it forever "daveedthegreat"

[frank compass]

you change ur discord name

cause you cant edit nicknames on this server

[astral dagger]

idk what to say for the extended barrel and suppressor

so optional

[frank compass]

Id say EXT barrel for Vector and UMP

[astral dagger]

not vector

[frank compass]

suppressor is ass

Vector EXT is amazing

waaaaaaat

[astral dagger]

vetor you hit heads

[frank compass]

gun has no recoil

[snow marsh]

dam

[frank compass]

literally no recoil

[astral dagger]

thefuck do i need bodyshots for

[frank compass]

it looks cool

and the gun has no recoil

:(

[astral dagger]

dude AVERAGE angagemet distance is like 10m in siege and with smth like mira even less

there is no use

it literally doesnt impact

the gun

[frank compass]

its better

[astral dagger]

if you use extended

its wasted

[frank compass]

than comp

[acoustic oar]

Vector actually op

[frank compass]

Bosco uses ext

therefore

its better

:D

[astral dagger]

if he wants to do longshots

please

xd

[snow marsh]

xd

[frank compass]

also roni

ext

is good

[astral dagger]

i dont play mira for 25+m body shots

[frank compass]

but roni is ass

[acoustic oar]

Roni good 2 if ur aim is good

[vivid jolt]

I need to go to the store. I'll add more stuff later on.

[frank compass]

no commando is better

roni is ass

[snow marsh]

adios

[acoustic oar]

Nah

[coarse vale]

GG @acoustic oar, you just advanced to level 1 !

[frank compass]

actual garbage gun

[astral dagger]

Bosco uses ext
@frank compass doesnt matter, i also wouldnt care if bosco slaps that shit on his smg11

[acoustic oar]

But use commando cuz pizza skin

[frank compass]

If bosco slapped ext on smg11 id start using ext

but I use flash cause Im still sane

and also smg11 recoil this patch is amazing

[astral dagger]

ye flash on smg

11

[frank compass]

I do think comp is VERY viable

this patch

on smg11

if you full spray with it

smh

suppressor on vector

goated

looks cool

therefore good

[astral dagger]

merc uses it

[acoustic oar]

WoW sQuArE sUpPrESsOr

[astral dagger]

must be good

right

?

[frank compass]

merc uses ext

they look the same

[snow marsh]

suppresor on mav looks cool imo

[frank compass]

very

[vivid jolt]

[astral dagger]

why the fuck do pros think playing vector for long range body shots makes sense XD

[frank compass]

because they arent hitting heads in 70% of engagements

and the gun has no recoil

so you might aswell

[astral dagger]

YEAH THEN ITS USELESS

[vivid jolt]

Anybody who uses extended barrel on any gun IDC who or what, you're sinning.

[frank compass]

UMP

[astral dagger]

use an attachment to hit more heads

[vivid jolt]

NO.

[astral dagger]

like wtf

[frank compass]

Extended

[vivid jolt]

I HAVE 500H ON THE UMP.

[frank compass]

yes

[vivid jolt]

IT DOES NOTHING.

NOTHING.

[frank compass]

so

it looks cool

:D

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

if youve noticd

I pick my attachments based on look

[astral dagger]

Aljo i dont respect your opinion anymore

[frank compass]

because nothing has recoil in this game

[astral dagger]

its best if you stop talking

[frank compass]

no

[vivid jolt]

[frank compass]

I actually cant think of a gun besides the scorpion and the bearing

where I struggle

with recoil

for the past year

Twitch this patch isnt great

i guess

[snow marsh]

[astral dagger]

@vivid jolt btw would be nice if you can read my stuff through, not native you know and you are our grammar guy lmao

[frank compass]

EDITOR IN CHIEF TOAST

wait

wrong one

whatever

it looks cute

[astral dagger]

im afraid whenever i see this bitch near my text

@frank compass

[frank compass]

LOL

I did

my 2 parts

that I originally wanted to

[vivid jolt]

@lime wyvern @astral dagger @raw fox @night radish @dawn coyote @analog halo @astral dagger
I figured you might be interested in the most recent pinned link. If you would like to contribute, DM me your email!

[frank compass]

when I asked sini

to make a doc

but your attachment choices are

i love this emote

oh my god

[astral dagger]

atleast my attachment choices arent based on "looks cool i take it"

[frank compass]

LOL

[astral dagger]

this is for ppl that actually want advice

[acoustic oar]

[astral dagger]

XD

[frank compass]

I mean

My advice

pulldown

no recoil

ez

but seriously

[astral dagger]

anyways

[frank compass]

Flash Hider

is best overall

[astral dagger]

anyone got tarkov ?

[frank compass]

ye

pull down

ez

[acoustic oar]

anyone got tarkov ?
@astral dagger bruh me

[astral dagger]

@frank compass i wrote that

[frank compass]

LOL

GOOD

aw

i thought u meant the pulldown part

sad

[astral dagger]

wierd combo

ngl

[frank compass]

how so

[astral dagger]

"fornite"

"anime"

"tarkov"

what doesnt fit in ?

[acoustic oar]

Well

[worn wagon]

Hurls, which region r u from?

[acoustic oar]

I'm stupid

[astral dagger]

EU

[frank compass]

all fit

now that I think abt it

[acoustic oar]

Playing fortnite since it starts

Than dropped that one

[astral dagger]

im joking xd

[frank compass]

tarkov too slow

to be fun

[acoustic oar]

Cuz a lot of mimecraft pros

[astral dagger]

aljo tarkov combat

[acoustic oar]

tarkov too slow
@frank compass zavod mp-7

[astral dagger]

isnt slow

[acoustic oar]

Run and gun lmap

Or factory

Nah

[frank compass]

factory I get saiga'd

and want to die

[acoustic oar]

Bruh xd

What's ur lvl?

[astral dagger]

which saiga

XD

[frank compass]

idk

8

maybe

10

[acoustic oar]

Bruh

[frank compass]

smth low

[acoustic oar]

Xd

Welcome to the club buddy

[frank compass]

I cba to play tarkov

[worn wagon]

I'm 30 or 32 I am still trash kinda. Wbu @astral dagger ?

[frank compass]

when there are better games

liek OSU and Kovaaks

[worn wagon]

And we can play any other day I am feeling better

[astral dagger]

low lvl, bought the game a while ago

didnt rly play yet

[acoustic oar]

Well

Bruh

[worn wagon]

It takes time to get good

[acoustic oar]

A lot of time

[worn wagon]

And being good at fps titles

[acoustic oar]

At least 100 hours

[astral dagger]

I played some arma

and dayz

my brother is the thousands of hours in mil sim shooter guy tho

[worn wagon]

Well we can play and if you are really low lvl I don't mind dropping gear after I fix my money situation

But I am feeling sick today

So Netflix it is

[astral dagger]

sure

i just click on ppl

and sometimes it works

[frank compass]

i think

I nap

Have fun on teh doc!

[acoustic oar]

I have a some probs with my sensitivity cuz I don't know which is better so i changes it every game

Bruh

[frank compass]

if theres anything specific ppl cant do on the doc

lmk and ill try to take a crack at it

[night radish]

Holy fuck chat blew up

[astral dagger]

@night radish doing the ultimate rainbow guide atm

thats why

lul

[night radish]

I see that lolol

[frank compass]

fuck hurls

bad attachments

smh

I was gonna nap but S2 got here

so I feel obligated to use

[night radish]

My attachments all vary on how bad each guns recoil is

If the vertical recoil aint shit i throw a comp on it

[frank compass]

Flash

ez

[night radish]

Like the r4 c

[frank compass]

ew

muzzle

[night radish]

For what lll

[frank compass]

r4c

[night radish]

Theres 0 recoil on that gun

[frank compass]

muzzle goated

[night radish]

And vigil’s weapon

[frank compass]

exactly

no recoil

[night radish]

0 recoil

[frank compass]

flash on vigil

looks the best

ez

[night radish]

Hahaha idc about looks

[frank compass]

HAHAHAHA

hurls

[night radish]

Btw thermites recoil is fuckin bad

[astral dagger]

you are right slappy

[frank compass]

Thermite has no recoil

[astral dagger]

aljo is just aljo

[frank compass]

wym

[night radish]

With all attachments

[astral dagger]

thermite is flash

[night radish]

It bounces left wnd right so bad

[frank compass]

Angled/Flash, Vertical/Flash

no recoil

in 10 bullet bursts

which is how you should be using the gun

[night radish]

I strictly run t hunts to practice recoil control so i jist hold m1

[frank compass]

as a very recent scrims thermite player

who was also top frag

flash

best

[night radish]

Agreed

[frank compass]

buck

also flash

[night radish]

No lol

Muzzle

[frank compass]

no

with holo

maybe

with acog

no

[astral dagger]

muzzle with holo

with acog flash

[frank compass]

yea

[night radish]

Muzzle with both

[frank compass]

I can agree w that

no

[night radish]

Yes

Lol

[astral dagger]

but i dont use acog anyways

[night radish]

What do you put on the G8?

[frank compass]

flash

angled

holo

[night radish]

Yeah same

[astral dagger]

comp or flash and angled holo

[night radish]

Sometimes i throw acog on for fun

[astral dagger]

prob flash best

[frank compass]

same

but mostly holo

[night radish]

Yeah same

[frank compass]

cause gun is fun to push w

[night radish]

50 bullet clip bb

[astral dagger]

ye and the mag is big but you reset between kills so its flash and not comp

you dont hold m1

like with ying

f.e

[night radish]

Who else

[analog halo]

It's preference and adapting to it

[frank compass]

preference is a myth

[analog halo]

lol

[frank compass]

my opinion is best

ez

[analog halo]

[astral dagger]

@vivid jolt barrel attachments done, would be nice if you'd read through it for grammar and stuff

[analog halo]

You put in work on that damn

[astral dagger]

@analog halo still need to do grips and laser

not sure what to write down

both are rly pp

[frank compass]

angled for smgs

vertical for ARs

generally speaking

[astral dagger]

nah

[frank compass]

I wrote down in a comment

[astral dagger]

i sue angled on hibana f.e.

[frank compass]

what you should put for laser

With holo sure

[astral dagger]

many pros too

[frank compass]

with acog no

[astral dagger]

I wrote down in a comment
@frank compass implemented that

gonna write a text in a sec

[frank compass]

idk if it should be changed at all

it just made sense

and was easy

and is applicable to laser

[astral dagger]

wasnt presice

[frank compass]

but angled works well with holo/aggressive playstyle

[astral dagger]

ye

angled and acog

is wierd

only on g36c with ash xd

[frank compass]

angled/acog on hibana is bad

on yea

i was bt to say

g36 acog/angled is easy

[astral dagger]

its fun too

so many hate on it

but i love g36c

acog

[frank compass]

angled on like all smgs

is generally good

vertical on most ARs

[astral dagger]

ye lets put angled on elas scorpion

[frank compass]

is generally good

[astral dagger]

ik xd

[frank compass]

although before her buff

angled/comp was the play

[astral dagger]

i just cant say it that generally in my text

[frank compass]

it was actually nasty

then buff came and it was ez

then nerf and its shit again

[astral dagger]

why did toast name it "heuristic of siege"

i wasnt even sure what that shit ment at first

[frank compass]

its funny

thats why

[astral dagger]

ppl probaply be afraid of clicking on it

[frank compass]

i mean