#siege

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barren citrus
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if they dont intend to push this franchise and fix the most ovious things, they just should bury it right now and stop wasting our time...

mental charm
astral dagger
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yea but that just proves that these ranks dont mean shit

barren citrus
vestal heath
astral dagger
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what the fuck is this spot lmao

astral dagger
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oh yeah im copper 2 playing with plats and diamonds

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current season like leave me alone already

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such a stupid system

barren citrus
next wagon
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early season ranks mean just as much they did in previous seasons, to be fair

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the system is designed to incentivize you to play ranked, which isn't necessarily bad for the health of the game

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personally, I'm playing with the same people I was playing last season (dia/champ) even though I'm still in gold so I'm fine

pseudo brook
pseudo brook
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it's alright I feel like something will get changed so we have some sort of skill indication

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because right now anyone can be champ

astral dagger
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Lmao

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So they only been champ and can boast to their friends 💀💀

pseudo brook
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the new system

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changes SBMM based on W/L

astral dagger
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Makes u grind alot yeah

pseudo brook
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on fresh accounts it changes instantly

astral dagger
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I have a 3wl rn EyeBall

pseudo brook
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on an older acc with a rank history it takes a million years

astral dagger
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But like there’s no fun in me grinding the game rn

pseudo brook
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I just want a red charm

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I think the season charms look sick

astral dagger
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I might grind it aswell

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Actually

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Ngl

pseudo brook
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so im queuing with worse players to get easier games

astral dagger
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Might be the play lmao

pseudo brook
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i cant get games without queuing with worse players

astral dagger
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Might get my silver friend to play with

pseudo brook
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if I solo q or queue with people that were champ/diamond its still 10 min queues

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thats at the least at peak hours

astral dagger
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🌚

pseudo brook
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but if i queue with plats or lower I get games in 1-3 mins

astral dagger
next wagon
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Once both RP and MMR are close enough, you should win and lose the same amount per match

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However, in order to incentivize grinding it does only get to +40 and -30. So yeah, technically if you had a 50% w/l ratio you will still rank up

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If you are above 50% your MMR should slowly increase, meaning you'll get more RP per win and lose less per loss. And if you're below 50% the inverse will happen

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The system would be perfectly fine if it didn't allow you to rank up with 50% w/l, but that's what ranked players want

raw wind
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im crying rn

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i am actually ranking up

astral dagger
next wagon
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if your MMR is 7000 you're not going to stop gaining 80 RP once you hit 4500

astral dagger
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and it takes the whole purpose of rank away bec rank doensnt have anyrhing to do with matchmaking so its basically just a battlepass

next wagon
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no one knows how MMR was calculated based off of previous seasons, I'm still far from my previous seasons' maxs so I can't really estimate but I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of average of last 2-3 seasons maxs

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so you don't get pushed back as much as you did in previous seasons

astral dagger
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and the ways to calculate it aswell and back then rank was solely based on rank/mmr now its 2 totally different things

next wagon
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so say (4500 + 2500)/2

astral dagger
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it capped at 5000 so the max was 3750 which you could get

next wagon
next wagon
astral dagger
astral dagger
next wagon
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no, I said that Solar Raid's starting MMR isn't known

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since it doesn't seem to follow the same rules

flint fractal
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I dont think it was capped before btw

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at least not at 5000

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My teammate who was 5600 who played all 10 placements with me placed higher than me who was 5065 at the end of season

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This season no clue tho

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weird system

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ranked doesnt mean much now imo

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Anyone have any good routines for siege btw

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Just using the kovaak siege routine atm but open to suggestions

north bay
north bay
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so around 20 matches for each rank

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8 * 5 * 20

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~800 matches to go from copper V to top even at 50% w/l

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unless I did my math wrong somewhere

next wagon
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shouldn't it be 900 matches? since with a 50% w/l you'd be getting an average of 10RP (40-30) per 2 games

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and champ is 4500

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even then, since you gain 80RP and lose 9RP for a really long time it'll take a lot less games in the end

north bay
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is champ 4500 MMR or RP

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i thought it was RP, and only 100 RP per rank

north bay
next wagon
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since MMR has no impact on rank

north bay
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champ was 4500 mmr before, right? i think it's now just the 100 RP per rank thing

next wagon
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it used to be 5000 MMR

north bay
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ok it says it in rank rewards

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8 ranks total

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each with 5 divisions

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for every 100 rp you get to new division

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until champ

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so that doesn't even make it 800 games

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since you don't go through champ V to champ I

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also random thing but what sens range do y'all recommend for this game

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coming back to it I set mine at like 60 cm but it kinda sucked

next wagon
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I think I'm on 66cm 1x

north bay
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hmm ok

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I'm on like 39 cm/360° rn

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how should I figure out that 1x?

next wagon
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the only other thing I'd keep in mind is that I did lower the default multipliers for higher zoom sights a bit, since the default just felt a bit too high

next wagon
north bay
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yeah

next wagon
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you can try that calc

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it's pretty handy

north bay
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where is the cm/360?

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oh i see

next wagon
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also, you'd have to scale the other sights accordingly if you change the 1x value

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it's a pretty annoying game

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as far as sensitivities go

north bay
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ok

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weird

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it says the xfactoraiming thing is default 0.02 but if i put that in it makes the values wrong

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ohhh wait no

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as just a starting place, what kind of ADS values do you use?

next wagon
next wagon
north bay
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yes, i just put in what i currently have

next wagon
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ah I see

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those numbers look reasonable tbh

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I think I run 5 hip and 35 1x?

north bay
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the current ones i have tho are just like the default of 50 for everything

next wagon
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wait, does it default to 50 on every sight?

north bay
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yeah

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i think so

next wagon
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I'm pretty sure it shouldn't default to 50 on every sight

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it should increase as the magnification gets higher

north bay
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oh

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i just clicked the default button and it went to 50 on every sight

next wagon
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oh wait, that's because you don't have advanced ADS toggled I think

north bay
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if i toggle it to advanced

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it is still 50

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it was something else in advanced before i clicked default

next wagon
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uhh, that's not how I remember it used to work but in any case I can show you the values I use just for reference

north bay
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ty

north bay
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that prolly was the old defaults

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rip

next wagon
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ADSGamepadSensitivityGlobal=50
ADSGamepadSensitivity1x=35
ADSGamepadSensitivity1xHalf=59
ADSGamepadSensitivity2x=60
ADSGamepadSensitivity2xHalf=61
ADSGamepadSensitivity3x=62
ADSGamepadSensitivity4x=62
ADSGamepadSensitivity5x=63
ADSGamepadSensitivity12x=97

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so this is what the gamesettings file says

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and those are fairly close to defaults IIRC

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weird

north bay
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gamepad?

next wagon
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NEVER MIND

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those are the defaults

north bay
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OH SHIT

next wagon
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since those are the controller values

north bay
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I just looked in mine

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yeah

next wagon
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which I never touched

north bay
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and found the ones I had

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because it hasn't saved to the ini yet

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and they're also not those laughy

next wagon
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however, those values are the ones corresponding to the old 50 ADS universal value (pre-shadow legay ads in the calc I sent)

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different old ADS values will mean different numbers, but the scaling between optics should be the same

north bay
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ahh

next wagon
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old 50 ADS with 6 hip @ 800 DPI was 55cm on the 1x, fwiw

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so the 35 on the 1x is the same 55cm

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assuming equal DPI and hip sens

north bay
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that gives me this

next wagon
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that's on 5 hip?

north bay
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50 hip

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with a multiplier

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MouseSensitivityMultiplierUnit=0.001382

next wagon
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yeah, I also run 0.002 mult

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oh

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that's a different one

north bay
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its different than the ads mult

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that's like an overall one

next wagon
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yeah, that one changes the scale of the regular hip sens slider

north bay
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yeah

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does it change the scale of other stuff

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ok yeah

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it does

next wagon
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sens is basically calculated hip * sens mult * optic multiplier * optic value

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so yeah

north bay
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ok

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so its close to if that value is 0.002

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and my base sens is 35

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i run 1200 dpi

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and just now have switched to 4:3

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and like mid 80s fov

next wagon
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yeah I don't really know why the calc says FOV affects sens anyway, but it shouldn't really matter honestly

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FOV and aspect ratio*

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that's weird, but the math checks out everywhere else

north bay
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does that table above look ok then

next wagon
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yeah, those are perfectly reasonable settings

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lower sens is just easier so people more into the game than aiming will tend to run even lower, but it's perfectly fine

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if anything, some of the most mechanically talented players do run slightly high sensitivities

north bay
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so those also correspond to the "standard" with a single 50 mult as well if i understand the shadow legacy changes

next wagon
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I think not, because for some weird reason the new "non advanced" ADS values are different than the ones before SL

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which is stupid

north bay
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weird

next wagon
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doesn't really make any sense at all

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I don't think anyone did the math on those, but I remember testing it when the changes went live and it was different

north bay
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the sensitivity in this game in general is kinda nightmarish

next wagon
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it's very annoying

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it's also very weirdly set up from the ground up

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defaults are just weird

north bay
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the 1-100 slider is far more reminiscent of a like

next wagon
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because the final 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5 sensitivities are way too close to each other which just feels even weirder on aspect ratios different to 16:9

north bay
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singleplayer story game

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than an fps

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oh?

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wack

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i might have to change that then

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I've definitely learned my static leaves a lot to be desired

next wagon
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that's how the defaults look for reference

next wagon
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seriously, you're not missing with a +100cm sens on a 2x

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aiming is very forgiving, it's just everything else that's punishing for the most part

north bay
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i guess yeah

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oh yeah

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do ppl usually run separate yaw and pitch to account for 4:3

next wagon
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not really, I think I can only think of 1 person who did that

north bay
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I'm kinda surprised

next wagon
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realistically, you should always run different h/v since every aspect ratio is rectangular but I guess the brain gets used to it

north bay
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yeah

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though for ppl like me I have the vast majority of my time on 16:9 and so vertical feels weirdly fast in siege

next wagon
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yeah, 4:3 will definitely feel a lot faster and it can be quite jarring with how fast sometimes people seem to swing on your screen

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but 16:9 just ends up feeling too wide and makes seeing enemies on pixels harder so almost everyone will run 16:10 at least

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and a lot also run lower FOVs than 90

north bay
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yeah I was surprised just how beneficial 4:3 is

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specifically in this game horizontal widening is huge

next wagon
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it also became more common with the addition of the 1.5, the 2.0 and the acog going from 3 to 2.5 since now you can pretty much just use 1x and 1.5 and not get the downside of the narrower AR

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it's pretty great

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and this season's nerf to ADS speed also means people are slower on your screen so it just seems like a no brainer

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but in reality it's not a necessity, and most of us are just used to it

north bay
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ahhh

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1.5 is really nice yeah

next wagon
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it kinda has become a crutch

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it's the most meta sight

north bay
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lmfao i was reading this and not paying attention to game and just got domed

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rn i think I just always tend to fire sooner than I should

next wagon
north bay
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p much anything that isn't holding an angle

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or prefiring

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like i flick & click too early

next wagon
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I don't think I quite get what you're trying to say, sorry

north bay
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like, click too early and miss the shot, either because of single fire or because recoil

next wagon
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ahh

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yeah, getting used to recoil can be a a bit tricky since some guns have a fairly high first shot recoil (higher than the rest of the burst) so you have to get used to pulling down a bit more at the beginning of the spray

north bay
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makes sense

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ugh I'm in a ranked match and my team is barely sentient

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ppl are dying to the easiest spots to punish and then not calling anything

next wagon
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welcome to siege

north bay
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also just letting clash walk around for free Clueless

next wagon
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get used to it, because even diamonds and above won't put even the slightest effort into not throwing, let alone working together

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the beauty of the game is in its complexity, which just gets wasted in ranked

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especially if solo queuing

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truly a tragedy

north bay
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finding a stack is like my biggest problem in this game rn

next wagon
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it's tough

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mostly because very few people actually want to somewhat learn how to play and get better

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most just queue ranked on autopilot

north bay
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I've been back to this for like 4 days and already consuming a lot of YT content and similar on stuff about it

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bit frustrating seeing a really interesting roam or similar and then being like

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oh right yeah can't do that

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need like 4 people

next wagon
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yeah, it's a shame because it feels like the gap between the full-blown competitive experience and ranked is just huge

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the complexity just makes it a lot wider than in other games as well, so most people playing ranked just never get to experience that

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and it really plays like a totally different game

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especially since after grinding ranked for a while, every time you play a site it's the same default strategy

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and it gets repetitive

north bay
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i think that's true of a ton of games

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you get this near constant comms in a comp match

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discussion and choosing of strats before stuff happens

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i feel like ranked stops at calling out or some basic setups

next wagon
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true, but the reason why I feel it's even worse with siege is because you have a lot more options in terms of how you can play each round

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and proportionally, I think less is explored in ranked

north bay
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mhm yeah

next wagon
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also because it takes more effort

north bay
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in TF2

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the game i previously played competitively

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that sorta stuff is big but

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the amount you can do with it

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and the extent to which its required in siege

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is so much higher

next wagon
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yep, and I guess that's what makes other "simpler" games more popular as they are more approachable

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they are simpler, but not necessarily easier

north bay
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yeah

next wagon
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but not being overloaded makes the game more enjoyable for the average player

north bay
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some may also not be necessarily "simpler" but just have complexity other than the specific like, siege information and teamwork focus

next wagon
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true, I guess the right way to describe is that they might be simpler in terms of info and comms

north bay
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I feel like a lot of people's issues with siege come from just not understanding utility

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(i am in the a lot here lol)

next wagon
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yeah, I guess it's the fact that having a good grasp of how and when to use utility and how and when to rely on your gun takes a lot of thinking

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it's just not intuitive, especially because a lot of the time you can misstime utility by a second and completely waste it, which gets frustrating and makes people give up on it

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it's a shame because I think the balance between gunplay and utility is what keeps the game interesting, but at the same time it's probably what limits its popularity

north bay
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in this game it's also like

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incredibly strongly biased towards utility in the sense that you can get into these situations where you're like

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how am I even supposed to win that

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because of utility

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and that's off-putting to a lot of people if it's just kinda feeling unfair

next wagon
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well yeah, I can see that but the thing is that a lot of the time you can actually counter a lot of that either by being aggressive and challenging at the right time, by knowing when to fall back, or even simply by setting yourself up properly in terms of operators and info

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but that goes back to the whole complexity issue

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knowing how to either prevent or react to those situations isn't something even most champs will be able to do since you really need serious competitive experience

next wagon
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but you can get away with pure gunskill a lot of the time tbf

north bay
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that's fair

next wagon
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most people will make mistakes and abusing them is the key to ranked lmao

north bay
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i want to get good at this game

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and rn I'm like

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barely focusing on any gun stuff

next wagon
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maybe I used the wrong term

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I wouldn't say it's just gunskill

north bay
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dm skill?

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that's frequently what I hear it called in other games

next wagon
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but rather that plus having a good grasp of timings and how to peek

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yeah

north bay
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yeah

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peeking is crazy

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I'm am trying to learn how to Shaiiko peek

next wagon
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typically it's called microgame IME, as opposed to understanding of how the team should play a round which would be macrogame

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yeah

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don't just focus on the mechanical aspect of it tho

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the low TTK really makes timing even more important a lot of the time

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it's something that takes time, but you'll eventually start to notice that there are "windows" where you can make a play and have a pretty safe chance of winning a 1v1

north bay
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hmm ok

next wagon
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it's really what separates the best gunners at a tier 1 level

north bay
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T1 cryingsunglasses

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I'm not even like a good rank ATM lol

next wagon
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it probably is what helped making brazil the highest level region, you can check out players like Paluh (liquid), Kheyze (w7m) and Cyber (faze) to get an idea

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lmao

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ik ik

north bay
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oh wait Brazil is the highest level region in siege?

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that is wild

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i think when i last really played EU were the big ones

next wagon
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it sounds crazy, but it really helps to see just how they constantly adapt through the entirety of a fight (as in positioning previous to the actual fight and during it)

north bay
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idk though

next wagon
north bay
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ahhh

next wagon
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they play aggressively and rely on coordination to frag

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NA and EU are typically slower and more methodical

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which works as well

north bay
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i heard the current meta is pretty kill based

next wagon
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it's becoming a bit more utility oriented, last year was more fragging focused but gunplay is definitely more important than it was during the penta/G2 era when EU was the king

north bay
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I'm not sure exactly what to think of that both since low rank + I remember the days of 3 speed microhead ashes who could crouch like crazy

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yeah ok that was like what I remember

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I'd already stopped really playing myself

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but I did watch the first invitational

next wagon
north bay
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I believe so

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I played from launch till like

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Mira season

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then break

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then came back white noise for like 2 seasons

next wagon
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I disagree, but I do think the game was more fun

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it was just an unbalanced mess

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it was just stupid how powerful peekers advantage used to be

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the netcode improvements and overall speed changes made the game more interesting as now holding angles doesn't feel like you're throwing your life

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and really makes fights more interesting as it's not a matter of who can peek who

north bay
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fair

next wagon
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also, OPs did get a bit more interesting as time went on

north bay
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I agree that they sometimes got a little overbearing and complex

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I feel like Echo and Zofia had that complaint a lot

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A lot of relatively simple stuff and you'd have ops with now like

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multiple abilities that are unrelated

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in the case of zofia

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or like

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drone that stuns and flies and cloaks

next wagon
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yeah I see that

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echo is a pretty good example of how things changed tho

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previously it was just used for plant denial, but now since we're in a more fragging oriented meta it's common to see echo drones helping roamers and overall everything being more active

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at one point (2020- early 2021) the game was just so utility heavy gunplay almost didn't matter

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attack would take well over 2 mins just to be able to start getting a plant setup

north bay
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didn't they do the big change to round timers at one point

next wagon
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so I'd say the current philosophy when it comes to Ops is to make them more useful throughout the round, but that does make them less straightforward

next wagon
north bay
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that's fair

next wagon
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I think that was around 2016?

north bay
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i think Azami is an example of great op design

next wagon
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yeah, azami was actually one of the best releases imo

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it just allows the defense to set up totally new angles but also to hold areas that you tipically wouldn't even think of before

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stuff like holding CEO on bank, which typically would be impossible due to the windows

north bay
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yeah just a very creative design

next wagon
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or just being able to block an angle to rotate

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it's just great overall

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solis is also pretty great

north bay
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i haven't played her

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don't have Battlepass

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I've got another team which doesn't say words

next wagon
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ahh, it should be available 2 weeks after the season started

next wagon
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very painful

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but yeah, solis is another one of those ops that allow the player to actively help

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it's not just a gadget that you set up

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and that sort of thing adds complexity, but it also keeps the game from going back to when utility just meant having shields and protecting them with ADSs and wamai disks

north bay
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holy shit my mechanics are ass

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what is thissss

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i did not sleep and I am missing the easiest shit

next wagon
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it happens

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I typically can't play for shit if I'm tired

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but also it's probably just recoil

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it can make your aim seem bad when in reality you just missed because you haven't gotten used to it

north bay
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is DM worth it at all

next wagon
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I don't really play DM a lot, but it's a decent way to warm up and practice recoil

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the main issue with it is that it doesn't really replicate the fights you tipically get in a real match

north bay
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yeah

next wagon
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and that you'll probably die to someone spawning behind you

astral dagger
next wagon
next wagon
north bay
next wagon
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was that the servers dying or just your connection?

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hopefully the former

astral dagger
north bay
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barren citrus
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This servers are so ass….

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Holy fuck, worst season since a very long time…

barren citrus
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gg ubi.

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im EU btw...

bitter willow
north bay
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very clean

obtuse stratus
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why am i in copper

next wagon
obtuse stratus
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nice

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also are hackers still a thing

next wagon
obtuse stratus
next wagon
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or rather, skill rating is different from rank now

obtuse stratus
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oh

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i need to learn nighthaven labs

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i am lost

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and its bad

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cuz its ranked

mental charm
mental charm
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new season be trippin

wanton sundial
next wagon
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I really shouldn't have started throwing late last season thinking it wouldn't matter

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barely hit emerald and I'm already earning less than 80RP

barren citrus
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EU servers dead since yesterday. What a joke this has become… 😭😭

barren citrus
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Ok, they are not offline, u can reach them with config file mod. But playing with 88ping just isnt fun.

obtuse stratus
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am i a casual for thinking the new ranked system is fine

mental charm
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when i hit it I was 17rp in and 821

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wait no

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723 im fried

mental charm
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average siege stack

obtuse stratus
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id be the copper

mental charm
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we won 5 in a row after that

harsh palm
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just games played?

wanton sundial
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ye

barren citrus
barren citrus
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unless you were unranked last season, then u get like 50 per win and lose 28, while being GoldV... Yeah, very fun to be hardstuck gold very early in the season, while being a plat player...

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i really hate this system and the servers this season. it makes me hate the game that i played most in the last years. unfortunately, not many FPS alternatives that dont look like a comicbook designed for 8year olds...

hidden crater
obtuse stratus
mental charm
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epic

mental charm
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dumbest clip

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on fuckin edpan too

fluid bramble
hidden crater
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@pseudo mirage

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he makes them cheap very good yes

vestal atlas
hidden crater
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the tage or the thumbnail

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😭

vestal atlas
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the vfx at 2:26

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both

hidden crater
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aww ty man

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i put a decent amt of thinking into my stuff i try to ahve hidden messages and jus keep it unique yk

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siege ppl jus copy and paste same shit

vestal atlas
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ive decided to try play more siege cos theres no interesting fps rn

hidden crater
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thats dope :D

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this new szn is actually rlly good surprisngly

vestal atlas
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yea seems quite fun

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i havent played before but all i know is that the ranking system was based of placements and not like the apex type climb

hidden crater
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they

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jus changed

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to apex type climb 😭

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with val hidden mmr system

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but it has made matchmaking 100x better

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games are way more competitive

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for the most part now

vestal atlas
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yea ive had a few weird games

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like in 2 of them there were plats/diamonds and this is like my first time actually getting into ranked

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cause i recently just hit level 50

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but even then it wasnt really a pubstomp it was still close games

hidden crater
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jus plat has more games played basicallyp

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in the past

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dont stress off playing certain ppl

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skil l gap in the game is huge

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u put a solid 1 to 2 weeks of intense learnign in ull alr be an average player

vestal atlas
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Yeah i really need to get used to leaning properly

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cause in some games, people are so quick i barely see them

fluid bramble
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I haven't played the game in quite a long time

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Is it still decent?

obtuse stratus
#

im having fun this season (omg having fun in siege what a shocker!)

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id say its p decent

pseudo mirage
wicked bloom
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that clip was scs quals (significantly more sweaty than ranked) 😄

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i thought the prefire was nice @ the end

hidden crater
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@wicked bloom i dumped some ranky clips from yesterday on twitta :3

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one day clip dump like da apex mfs do

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its sorta meh for my standards but i wanna tweet daily and had no ideas

hidden crater
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thanks i appreciate that

wicked bloom
#

from nightmare nyx 😂

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dude we got mopped

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i was in a 1vx or 2vx every round sadge

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wait that was a diff team

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nv,

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im losing my mind

hidden crater
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nah i dindt

hidden crater
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:3

mental charm
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tf is this

north bay
#

i need to stop firing the instant they die to get the cool one tap clips now

fiery parrot
#

Trying to get back into siege after not playing for over a year

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I was diamond/champion for 10 seasons so if anybody wants to play EU message me

keen crypt
astral dagger
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and mosr of the time the firsr bullet doesnt kill anyways

jaunty frost
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LMFAOOOOOO

astral dagger
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yea they put d pics on the Screen aswell

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but they fixed by removing ban logs

north bay
cursive hollow
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is it worth getting into siege again

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I have like 150 hours

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bored of the game

cursive hollow
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game feels crisp to aim in

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but ive played 2 dms and seen 1 cheater already so

keen crypt
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are the queue times long af in dms?

cursive hollow
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uh

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not rly

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min or 2

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if that

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for me

keen crypt
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damn na west servers are dead then ig

wicked bloom
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@wanton sundial ggs < 3

wicked bloom
wanton sundial
mental charm
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just beat them twice lmao

cursive hollow
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whast the current meta

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for ops

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also

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whos the high sens player

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s

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like around 24cm

mental charm
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but hes val player now

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thaqil plays 17cm

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i think

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jolly played 9

cursive hollow
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jeuss

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anyone around 24cm

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whos cracked aimer

wicked bloom
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literally only 1 player in the whole game

cursive hollow
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uh

wicked bloom
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ambi

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other than that

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not a single even remotely decent player

cursive hollow
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Doesnt beaulo play high

wicked bloom
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no

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the highest sens ive a pro player use is 34cm

cursive hollow
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doesnt feel that bad

hidden crater
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so does nuers

wicked bloom
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not even close

hidden crater
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ambi doesnt have good aim hes just an insane player

wicked bloom
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ambi plays like 20

hidden crater
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nuers has good aim tho he plays like

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high 30s low 40s

wicked bloom
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17 17 42 standard ads 800 dpi

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default mutli

hidden crater
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his 1.5 and high scopes r in the 40s

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cuz standard ads

wicked bloom
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those r his cm

hidden crater
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he plays 7 7

wicked bloom
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he used to 17 17

hidden crater
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yeah ik

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and his 1.5x prob feels around 60cm cuz he plays standard ads

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u usually see him on 1.5s

wicked bloom
#

so literally nobody plays around 24 cm

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nobody good\

hidden crater
#

u cant precisely control recoil in siege on high sens really

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esp now

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like u have to pull down such precise amts like on high sens u ju8s lose consistency in recoil control ud have to play like

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5:4 or 4:3 holo only or something and put hella time into recoil and play low recoil weapons to be consistent gunplay wise

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i dont think there is any reason to ever go below 30cm in siege its jus

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ew....

wicked bloom
#

well in comp u can fs get away with a faster sens depending on the role

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like 35-45

hidden crater
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yeah u can get away with playing well on high sens

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consistent mechanics tho nah

wicked bloom
#

in ranked if ur not on a slow sens ur trolling

hidden crater
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i mean a good support player could play like 10cm and still be fine cuz low recoil weapons and ur role is so not like

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gunplay dependent

wicked bloom
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well

hidden crater
#

most consistent ppl gunplay wise in siege are Banned and Vladr

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both played 60-80cm range

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thats where i find myself performing the best as well

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game was diff when they played tho to be fair

wicked bloom
#

yeah im ngl

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on every role

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u have to play on the lower end of sens

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like even hb smoke players

hidden crater
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yeah ur not precisely controlling smg 11 on like 20cm 😭

wicked bloom
#

yeah and most pl smoke player use a lower hip sens

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for shotty acc

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like brid for example

hidden crater
#

yeah thats smart

wicked bloom
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6-6 400 dpi 1:1

hidden crater
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alot of support player gunfights are literally just crosshair placement + micros

keen crypt
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damn

hidden crater
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ur never doing wide swings much or exposing urself to an angle ud have to flick to yk

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sorta diff on other roles but

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im playin smoke and hardbreach i might sit on 100cm ngl

wicked bloom
#

i dont think that would work in comp tho

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there times

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especially during executes on vboth atk and def

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u need to be fluid with it

hidden crater
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100cm ads

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not gonna run 100cm hip 😭

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that might be trolling

wicked bloom
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yeah but for ranked if u play fast sens ur kinda a moron

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there just isnt any upside other than like looking flashy for clips

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i seen a vid of some overwatch player on like 1cm i think

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i think he was trollin gbut dude

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he was so bad

astral dagger
wet sierra
wicked bloom
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not u again 😂

hidden crater
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banned is 3x false banned

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vladr has nmever been banned he got out'd of the scene for being weird and liking an underaged girl i think

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ive been banned 5x

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i dont cheat

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so

wet sierra
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right but u dont get falseley hwid ban no?

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like 3x falsely banned and 1x falsely hwid banned is just hard to believe icl

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also 5x falsely banned is crazy u must be the most unfortunate person ever bro hv u tried to appeal?

hidden crater
wet sierra
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happened to a friend of mine as well

wet sierra
hidden crater
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i mean id have to look for them idrc to

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AmareXO
GilbertLuvsMe

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the two i cared ab the most and ppealed

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one is my main after i got banned

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gilbert acc was my og acc after getting a PC but it was like my main alt basically

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two are barcodes i cba finding those 😭

wet sierra
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is this ur acc?

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well one of ur accs ygm

hidden crater
#

that acc was pulled and stolen

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and cheated on

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by some weirdos

wet sierra
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ahh i see i was gonna say batlleye doesnt handle stat bans

mental charm
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RIP GardenGobbler42

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I think devmarta reported this or sum

hidden crater
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i was fucked up last night runnin around liek a dumbass

wicked bloom
hidden crater
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i needed an acc to use cuz my console friends are linked to my other uplays

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and they were playin CPL

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its like FPL but for the consoles

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so i had to find an acc.

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cuz the console acc linked cant be on at the same time

wet sierra
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Ohhh u a console player?

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Wich of ur friends are playing cpl i probably know fhem

mental charm
north bay
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3 ppl on my team just died to a fucking thorn

mental charm
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like 1 trap?

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lmao

hidden crater
cursive hollow
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is that like 28cm

north bay
hidden crater
keen crypt
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so many cheaters today

odd tree
#

Is R6 not dead yet

north bay
#

I'm fucking loving alibi

wispy sparrow
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Babe wake up a new Dan video dropped

next wagon
#

they should've just taken her shield away, not the 1.5x

north bay
#

when was 1.5x

next wagon
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got removed this season

next wagon
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couldn't find any alibi clips quickly sadly but I did find this 2 awfully similar ones

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and I'm pretty sure I have more just like those

north bay
#

i should start prefiring more

lyric sphinx
#

my Steam 2022 replay
i played one game only; and that is Siege EZ

keen crypt
#

is that an alt?

north bay
#

zamn!!!

flat basin
fiery parrot
#

Anyone high rank EU add me Fiuority

quiet bramble
#

@north bay i’m a prodigy

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1st game dominated with ease

north bay
#

i got him it for xmas and he got the overtime ace

trim nest
#

one question, there's no way to set the sens to number with decimal points? like 4.67 or sth?

next wagon
#

it's just that the range is reduced to a tenth

north bay
north bay
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lmfao the flick from alibi onto the actual enemy

north bay
#

this is quick match lol

north bay
inland lark
inland lark
north bay
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love triangle but TKing

inland lark
#

5 in 0.02 (default) is equivalent to 50 in 0.002 multiplier

trim nest
#

ah

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OK gonna try

uncut cloak
#

does anyone have any tips on learning shaiko peak

#

trying to relearn it and my god im strugglin

uncut cloak
next wagon
#

I mean, it's just a regular q-e but you start already leaned instead of not

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there's not a lot to the mechanics of it

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and it doesn't really cover when and why to use it too well

north bay
#

the multiplier is the number of degrees per mouse sensor count, fwiw

next wagon
#

degrees or rads?

upbeat garnet
#

how long does it take aprox to get level 50 so i can play ranked in siege

uncut marsh
#

1st game of this season

#

very nice

next wagon
#

no cheaters? consider yourself lucky

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I think over half my games today have had at least one

vestal atlas
#

^^

flat basin
simple quail
#

So I haven't played siege for a few months and now when i come back im unbelievably ass

#

I used to be in silver but i feel my mechanics and aim were alright, now I can barely hit anything, and i can barely do anything in copper

#

Anyone know hwo I can gain my skill back

exotic coral
#

Play da game

north bay
#

rad would be insane

next wagon
#

you mean, rads would be rad?

north bay
#

lmfao

uncut marsh
#

😁

next wagon
daring hamlet
#

guys what settings do i put on in order to have all graphic settings at the lowest except my skins? i got a beefy pc so i want skins n shit to look really nice, but i also want good clarity by having all other settings as low as possible

next wagon
vestal atlas
#

i think antistropic filtering also does slightly

daring hamlet
north bay
daring hamlet
#

whats the best way to get renown when youre new so i can start unlocking 10k operators ?

vestal atlas
#

Ik theres a free renown booster in the rewards section of ubisoft

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And theres a 3 day one if u have enough ucoins

astral dagger
daring hamlet
#

ive just seen there 18 free operators if you play extraction but everytime i try do the demo, it says i need an activation code

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dont see anything on steam or when i launch r6 that says my code :/

daring hamlet
#

also what’s the fastest way of getting to lvl 50? am i jus supposed to play quick match for like 10 days in order to get from lvl 1 to 50?😭😂

hidden crater
uncut cloak
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anyone know how to get 1:1 sens

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is there a converter or some

mental charm
#

just play on whatever sens is comfortable don't think too much about it

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ohh you dont mean for aim trainers proly

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thats a sens calculator, just enter your aspect ratio n fov and then use 83 for the pre shadow legacy sens cause thats 1:1

uncut marsh
#

I am hardstuck copper

#

0.4 W/L

#

Why are my games so hard this season

north bay
north bay
mental charm
north bay
#

yeah though it would go down with losing

knotty oracle
#

I peaked in y4s1 winbastion plat 3 and plat 3 in phatom sight as a casual player, I miss this game as my most played game ever at 1k hours, after all this time is it too late to comeback again?

uncut marsh
#

KD doesn't mean much anyways but yeah

#

I just can't win any games this season 😭

next wagon
#

guess that depends on your hidden MMR tho

#

I found it pretty chill to rank up all the way up to champ but I was always playing the very same people I was playing last season

next wagon
astral dagger
#

2 gamees 5 aces lmao

north bay
#

meanwhile i have bad kd and solid win/loss

north bay
#

do y'all have any kovasks recommendations and similar for R6

uncut marsh
north bay
#

I've learned siege becomes nearly unplayable if I have almost any amount of alcohol in my system

next wagon
next wagon
north bay
#

I don't think I know enough to pull that off well

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it just nukes my reactions and thus a lot of the gunplay I can do

north bay
#

i just lost a clutch to clientside debris blocking my entire view

astral dagger
astral dagger
next wagon
#

I started the season the same way

astral dagger
#

yea but i dont like it i just want to chill and iam playing mostly diaomonds

next wagon
astral dagger
#

but i guess rn ranked is fun bec i dont have to sweat but i think my smurfs mmr will adjust soon aswell

#

but in the end thats how it is mmr will adjust too skill and ill cant play just for fun anymore

north bay
#

I'm fine with tryharding if it's people at my level

#

my main issue is the last couple matches, 4-5 at least, have had massive MMR diff

#

the siege analyst overlay thing ha the avg team MMR and then the calculated chances of winning and it's regularly a like, 400-600 gap

next wagon
#

yeah, I'm pretty sure that the matchmaking isn't prioritizing fair games as much just to reduce queue times this season

#

even late at night I can find games in 10-15 minutes at most, while previous seasons 30-45 minutes wasn't uncommon

next wagon
#

eh, it's fine until you're solo-qing, ran into pros and have nothing but npcs on your team

#

I feel like they should make a bit more strict at higher ranks

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or rather, high MMRs

#

I like 5 stacking, but sometimes I just want to queue a few games and have decent enough teammates and pairing people who barely hit diamond against +6k RP champs is not a good idea

north bay
#

as we're talking about this i just got into a match where they have a champ

#

we have almost exactly equal team avg MMR

next wagon
#

don't be too scared, with over 5k champs it doesn't mean much pplaugh

#

and so many of them are boosted

north bay
#

fair

next wagon
#

it's ridiculous

north bay
#

tbf top 5000 vs. me is still a crazy diff

#

but with team....

next wagon
#

eh, tbf siege is probably the game were rank and individual skill can be the most apart

#

also, if you disable tracker overlays you'll be pleasantly surprised by how above your rank you can punch

#

at least as long as the enemy team isn't 5 stacking

north bay
#

yeah I've had some good experiences in that respect

#

i really want to find a good stack

next wagon
#

yeah, that's hard

#

maybe you can try FPL-C or whatever the open FPL hub for NA is called

#

the latam one is pretty active here, but I have no clue about NA

#

it's a decent way to get a bit of competitive play experience and find slightly better people to play with

north bay
next wagon
#

that's the one

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if it works like the latam one, top 2 each season gets to the actual FPL with t1/t2 players

#

I can't comment on how the average gamer is going to behave in there, but given there's some incentive to play well maybe it won't be horrible

north bay
#

ouch

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it requires faceit AC

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which needs hyperV to be disabled

#

do you think there'd be gamers for a silver person lol

next wagon
#

Eh, it'd probably be a bit rough but you could probably learn a lot faster

#

It's a bit of "try at your own risk" kind of thing

#

Otoh, ranked is painful but at least it's consistently painful

#

You know what you'll get lmao

#

If you learn some basic site setups and attacks you can probably hold your own

north bay
#

do you have any reccs for yt or similar for those?

#

I've figured a couple cool ones out on my own but it's helpful to actually know something for every map and site

#

We pulled a pretty nasty kafe kitchen hold with me on Azami and someone else on Mira today, actual pixel peek hell for defenders

#

though even that depended a bunch on them mostly choosing to push bakery and not VIP

astral dagger
#

every last season diaomond who plays alot can get it probably even plats

north bay
#

game has been down like most of the last 2 days bleak

next wagon
# north bay do you have any reccs for yt or similar for those?

I think there are some guys on youtube making decent educational content (poxonlox is one I think?) but realistically it's a lot better to see what's done in t1 matches. It's not like you're going to replicate that in a ranked game, but the understanding of how those setups work lets you apply whatever you can into your games

#

Highlights from scrims/games are also a good way to see how different setups are played and a lot of players upload those. And you also get to hear comms and see how they try to coordinate

next wagon
#

The unfortunate thing is that as you (and your opponents) get better you can rely less and less on the utility itself and it becomes more a matter of how you and your team use that utility to find openings to be aggressive, etc. since utility can and, you have to assume, will be destroyed so you really have to be active and understand that a good setup can give you a small margin but you have to take advantage of it

#

I say this because when I was first starting in comp, I considered myself a genius for coming up with great strats but I was so passive and overall a bad gunner that I just couldn't take advantage of them and hoped that the setup itself would be enough

#

Probably didn't need to write an essay, but this is a fascinating topic for me anyway

north bay
#

shoot with them or anything LOL

wicked bloom
north bay
#

also just droning out stuff is not done at the rank I'm at laughy

#

putting a frost under a window and then watching that window is practically a guaranteed kill

next wagon
#

yeah, as far ranked goes just get kills and carry for now

#

it's good to develop confidence and learn how to be aggressive

wicked bloom
#

the meta last season was super aggro and latm teams were dominating

#

but with the new speed changes

#

you will see at invite teams like virtus pro will be the best

#

virtus pro is old empire

#

and they are under the name outsiders bc it’s a Russian org

next wagon
#

being aggressive doesn't mean peeking only

#

yes, the game is slowing down now that everyone is a 1 speed ADSed

#

but it's most likely a change for the better in the long run

#

devs are trying to get siege as close to cs/val as possible, and making it harder to run around like an idiot and abusing peekers adv is one way to do it

wicked bloom
#

I haven’t played val in a fat minute

#

but people were definitely running around like idiots

next wagon
#

no, the point is you can't shoot while moving in cs/val

#

one of the reasons why peekers advantage is so massive in siege is because you could run around ADSed as a 3 speed and there were no downsides to it

north bay
#

but i think it definitely varies

#

a lot of my friends dislike siege and the root cause has seemed to largely be the focus on gamesense and creativity and stuff

#

one of my friends remarked on how in CS / Val you're basically just watching the same corner every match compared to siege where people come from all sorts of positions and angles and killholes

next wagon
#

the farther back you go in siege's history the worst it was, previously you could get swung by even faster 3 speeds and the overall worse netcode just made it terrible to hold angles relatively

next wagon
#

because all that stuff isn't enjoyable in ranked so they end up thinking siege is just a poorly balanced game

north bay
#

if you don't know the map it's pretty awful at the start

hidden crater
barren citrus
astral dagger
north bay
#

I have discovered that Evan Braddock dude on YT and I am laughing my ass off

north bay
#

omfg I changed my horizontal sens for the 4:3 and it's way better feeling

next wagon
#

how much did you change it tho?

north bay
#

just like

#

the actual multiplier to make the screen distance the same as 16:9

#

so 75%

#

otherwise the same mouse movement visually is "faster" on horizontal than vertical

#

you can definitely get used to it without that change but it's just easier for me since it feels like there's no diff to other games now

next wagon
#

I mean, it's reasonable, but I'd say it's easier to just get used to it

#

especially if you switch around between 4:3 and other aspect ratios

#

it's fun to experiment tho

north bay
#

i don't really switch on siege

#

16:9 honestly kinda feels wrong in this game

next wagon
#

16:9 is just ridiculous (hfov is just ridiculously high), but 16:10 and 3:2 can also work

north bay
#

might try those out

#

I'm on 90 fov 4:3

next wagon
#

yeah, that's what I play too

#

but 3:2 90 is also nice every once in a while

north bay
#

I'll have to try it

#

tbh the ratio format is also kinda annoying to me

#

wish they just put it as 1:x

next wagon
#

eh, I think it's just cleaner this way and it's just as easy to visualize

#

hopefully everyone playing this game can tell how much wider than taller something on 16:10, 3:2 or 4:3 is

north bay
#

i cannot and my job is mathematics LOL

#

well not really that i cannot but it requires a bit of thought

next wagon
#

nah, you're trolling

#

16:10 just means 60% wider and you know it

wheat nebula
#

i love making r6s concepts

north bay
north bay
wheat nebula
#

i just need to make it work

#

YK1

#

Also a Singleplayer Campaign OST)

#

I am not reworking game btw

#

i am just adding content and some new modes

#

such as CTF / Pro League / many more

#

Pro League mode: (WIP)
--Restrictions--
-Can be accessed within players that played more than 150 Emerald II+ games within 2 seasons
-Have a Exemplary behaviour status
-Full team only
-150+ account level

#

wait

#

lemme make a PS UI art)

north bay
#

emerald II seems kinda arbitrary, I'd go with just like emerald I

#

but also that sorta thing is usually better served by pugs and scrims

#

IDK exactly how it works in Siege but I'd imagine it's similar