#community | Voltaic | Page 54

tulip mantle Apr 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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you are kinda cute tbh ngl

oak galleon Apr 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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bro...

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😳

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pworgles your nutsack

vital girder Apr 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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👎

ripe notch Apr 21, 2020, 4:43 PM

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⏸️

tulip mantle Apr 21, 2020, 4:43 PM

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YEP

round kindle Apr 21, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@zinc dragon Masters! PES_Sword

worn notch Apr 21, 2020, 4:54 PM

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@tulip mantle no verbal abuse

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not cool bro

tulip mantle Apr 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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that was a citation of something i was told today by another member doe!

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yea no, i know

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sorry mister seaknee

round crescent Apr 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yay

drowsy turtle Apr 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yay

oak galleon Apr 21, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yay

round kindle Apr 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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yay

neat anchor Apr 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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yay RLA yay

worn notch Apr 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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zPepega

round kindle Apr 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yay

sturdy swan Apr 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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ayyy

oak galleon Apr 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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yay

spark tulip Apr 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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yay RLA yay

worn notch Apr 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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no

gentle quail Apr 21, 2020, 8:33 PM

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no?

round kindle Apr 21, 2020, 9:12 PM

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yay Spitting

spark tulip Apr 21, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yes

fallow flume Apr 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Prohibited.

oak galleon Apr 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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yay

vital girder Apr 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Imagine grinding kovaaks for the Sparky Platinum rank and then showing up to the #community channel, expecting high iq conversations and helpful tips and tricks, to then be surprised by the spam of the yay emote.

gentle quail Apr 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Pain

iron flare Apr 21, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yay

ripe notch Apr 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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YEP spam instead

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YEP

round kindle Apr 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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YEP COCK

sage oar Apr 22, 2020, 12:31 AM

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PENIS

thick pumice Apr 22, 2020, 2:09 AM

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YEP COCK

polar fern Apr 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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pepeLaff

keen patrol Apr 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Idk what you are supposed to expect

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We’re all dumb hoomans

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YEP

round kindle Apr 22, 2020, 7:24 AM

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:/

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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:/

round kindle Apr 22, 2020, 8:34 AM

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:/

polar fern Apr 22, 2020, 8:40 AM

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:/

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 8:42 AM

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:/

oak galleon Apr 22, 2020, 8:56 AM

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:/

fallow flume Apr 22, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Any predominately horizontal tracking scenarios that you guys think are good potential benchmark suggestions?

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Open to ideas.

velvet wing Apr 22, 2020, 9:26 AM

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:\

round kindle Apr 22, 2020, 9:54 AM

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wraith dagger Apr 22, 2020, 10:36 AM

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midrange fast strafes invincible, gpe

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 11:43 AM

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horizontal tracking weird

tulip mantle Apr 22, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Tile frenzy 180 strafing invincible

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I hope it exists

young drum Apr 22, 2020, 12:06 PM

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yay

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Thin gauntlet back in

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With fov cap

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 12:44 PM

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wait is that why thin gauntlet was removed?

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people fov cheesed it?

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 12:45 PM

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fov and sens

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Yeah people were doing 30fov and like 100cm

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Cant you cap fov in scenario settings?

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Or only for holding rmb

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 12:52 PM

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i think you can only cap ads fov

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not much you can do about sens

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Yeah true

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 1:00 PM

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that's actually ridiculous

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 1:02 PM

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think all GM scores should be fov capped

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but it's a lot of work sadly

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 1:10 PM

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how old is yu?

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:13 PM

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classified

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no idea tbh

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 1:14 PM

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yu is much like Cthulhu

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we dont know much about him

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and hes some sort of god

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:)

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 1:16 PM

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nice

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in my mind

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he is 17 forever

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that is the age he is

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sources: me

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:16 PM

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yeah he doesnt age

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 1:16 PM

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in my mind yu is some disembodied arms

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:16 PM

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id bet between 20 and 24

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 1:17 PM

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@ripe notch I read a comment you wrote on one of your videos saying you're 34.6cm 90 source always? have you been that for all your benchmarks?

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that shit impressive if so

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 1:18 PM

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yes always

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although

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when i applied for master

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i cheesed popcorn sparky

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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😮

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surely not..

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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i used like 60fov and 60cm

tulip mantle Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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BRO!

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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unforgiveable man..

tulip mantle Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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not cool!

ripe notch Apr 22, 2020, 1:20 PM

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cryingweeb

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:35 PM

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close fast strafes invincible - thin @fallow flume if its a replacement for cfsei

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:45 PM

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it's a cool scen but there's 3 versions and is heavily underplayed

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Pasu inv track had like 100 entries too when it became benchmark

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:48 PM

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voxts too

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but those 2 are really good scens

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i also don't think anyone has really set the limit in terms of score

tall oasis Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Well, yet

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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True, needs to be a sparky comp

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To see

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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we need some tests ye

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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me and ryan both had around

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10.2k

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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comps are good for it

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 PM

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or something

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a long time ago

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but dunno if anyone else good plays

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:50 PM

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There's this dude vibes, he got 11k i think

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:51 PM

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that's prolly cheated but who knows

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Yeah trying to @ him but i think he got removed. Prolly right. What you think would be best replacement then tony

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:52 PM

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nothing

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horizontal tracking will always be really hard to base

summer wedge Apr 22, 2020, 1:56 PM

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scens like cfsi thin would probably be a nightmare for lower ranks tho

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 1:57 PM

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it is a nightmare in general

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 1:57 PM

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cfsi thin would be hard to do score wise

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idk if what I said conveys what I mean

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idk how else to phrase it tho

drowsy turtle Apr 22, 2020, 2:00 PM

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horizontal tracking is always going to be hard to score

oak galleon Apr 22, 2020, 2:29 PM

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just wondering
is there any rules about pausing a scenario after killing a bot on scenarios like gpnu (for gm benchmarks)?

rare socket Apr 22, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Im pretty sure youre alowed to pause it on gpnu and air nuns

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If you dont do anything crazy

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 2:47 PM

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pause, change sens + fov, unpause

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do so for every bot

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ez cheese

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imagine the limits you could break by finding the optimal cheese for each bot tho

oak galleon Apr 22, 2020, 2:58 PM

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true dat

tulip mantle Apr 22, 2020, 3:03 PM

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or you invite 7 friends over, of which every one has been grinding one specific bot for weeks, and then you guys swap after each kill

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 3:04 PM

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that's dedication

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respect

oak galleon Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I honestly wanna do that

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but

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social distancing

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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LOL

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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lool

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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imagine if you could submit each of the 1min scens separately

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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ay man you gotta be dedicated to the grind

oak galleon Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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^

rare iris Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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guess you're not that dedicated smh..

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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and be like "so that wouldve been X time on regular"

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just give ur steam to 7 ppl

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ez

fallow flume Apr 22, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Yeah something that isn't pure fast strafes because that's the RNG pattern that we're trying to replace.

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If it's like Longstrafes Hard then that's more understandable.

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 8:15 PM

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CLSI 15s

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ppLaugh

gentle quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:41 PM

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https://twitter.com/CSGO/status/1253075594901774336?s=20

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seems relevant because of what was in #announcements

fallow flume Apr 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@dire idol Master! master

round crescent Apr 23, 2020, 8:06 AM

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yay

fallow flume Apr 23, 2020, 9:04 AM

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@outer moon Diamond! 💎

mild comet Apr 23, 2020, 1:33 PM

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yay

oak galleon Apr 23, 2020, 1:45 PM

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yay

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 5:11 PM

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you know thin versions are also good for reducing prediction

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:14 PM

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do you calculate GM benchmarks to be 85% of the #1 score?

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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No it's more informal

highest scores
difficulty of score from opinions
amount of players that have the score

At the start most GM scores used to be within the top 10 and only a very few percentage of players would have the scores, but when there's scores to go for there's more players tryharding etc.

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I think now most of them are within the top 25-50 range

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But it varies heavily per scenario, aiming style (movement is least played), and entries

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:42 PM

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in december 2018 nobody had gm score on pattargetswitch funnily enough

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nobody even had my score

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things changed fast..

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Yeah the scores will keep getting pushed

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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well with my new GPE highscore i hope you choose it to replace GPNU ^_^

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Can consider it, there's a bunch of scenarios that should be replaced

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close fs easy dodge, CFSEI, 6te

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are also on the list

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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well close fs easy dodge does not like me

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i have 19k through mirroring and 64%, some people have 20k while mirroring and 60%

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dont understand, did they just get longer strafes => more movement score?

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:46 PM

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seems like those type of scenarios seem to favour RNG and prediction the most

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CFSEI and close fs easy dodge

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especially when the goal is to get a high score

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high score does not necessarily mean more skill

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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aimer specifically shilled cfsei as the alternative to cfsi with less prediction, i remember that clearly

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but yes if the bot was thinner

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could have been a better scenario

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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well cfsi would just be worse anyway

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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because it would punish predictions more and reward tight corrections

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it seems that if a scenario punishes predicting, its prone to cheese

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and vice versa

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:49 PM

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there's just a lot more RNG factor

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when playing invincible scenarios

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for high scores

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but yeah thinner would be better

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:49 PM

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definitely less than when playing tracking scenarios with bot deaths though, especially with random spawns

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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well air is quite consistent

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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thats why i created CFSI in the first place, i was annoyed that i had such high variance between bots and took a lot of time locating the bot

worn notch Apr 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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air nuns that is

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bots spawn in same place and follow somewhat similar patterns

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but yeah even there ofc

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it factors in

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CFSI is pretty good imo

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just not really when played exclusively for scores

wraith dagger Apr 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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well need to rewatch the video

delicate rapids Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 AM

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community!!!!

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zHypeDance

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totoLaff

round kindle Apr 24, 2020, 11:35 AM

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yay

oak galleon Apr 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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what does the bold font on some scenarios on the sparky recommended scenarios document mean?

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okok thx

quasi iris Apr 25, 2020, 2:09 AM

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!benchmarks

tough impBOT Apr 25, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Want to increase your skill rank?
Check out our benchmarks: http://bit.ly/2PdgZlm
Graduate here: http://bit.ly/2NvOVqY

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@boreal maple Master! master

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

worn notch Apr 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Good pasta, Sini.

mild comet Apr 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

worn notch Apr 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

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kirbySpin

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Wonderful take, Shye.

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Coudn't agree more.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Thanks to vac, and whatever MW is using, being just bloatware, lots of people have an easy time to train and learn how to code

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So other games get infested too

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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No game is safe currently.

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Videogames have a virus pandemic too.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Haven't met a single cheater in Hentai Girl puzzle games pepeHappyBlanket

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Need AI.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Yea. And because there is no AntiCheat, every dude can get into it

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Also need report systems that do something. And CS's OW system.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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My point

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Vacnet

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Wtf happened to that

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Also I just don't understand why all games don't have motion limits. Like if someone is 70 feet in the air, they're probably flying. Insta-ban until review. Same for a movement speed limit. If someone is snapping to kills with no frames of motion inbetween, they're probably aimbotting. Insta-ban until review. Why don't most games have sensitivities for this?

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:10 PM

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And why does cs only ban accounts

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And not HWID

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CS is free now

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So they won't even make money from cheaters buying new keys

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:12 PM

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All games should have 2-step verification and ban phone numbers, HWID, account, email, and IP for any single ban.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Not like they can do anything about serious cheats like aimware anyways.
Those would get a spoofer.
But dumb kids would get zapped away at least.

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Verify land-line phone number for online play YEP

scenic mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Well its easy in theory but how can you track a player snapping to other players. Cause 1 frame on the server is differnt to 1 frame on the client. And then what stopping smooth aimbot

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Honestly wouldn't have a problem with that

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People getting banned for 300+ping

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At least kicked

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Even Nintendo and Animal Crossing got hacked and personal info stolen. pepeStoop

scenic mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Inzane

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Well its easy in theory but how can you track a player snapping to other players. Cause 1 frame on the server is differnt to 1 frame on the client. And then what stopping smooth aimbot
Doing it consistently. Nobody is good enough to snap to heads with only 2-4 frames for every single kill. Easy to detect that. People would have to use soft aimlock but then it'd be down to the anti-cheat and the report/overwatch system, ideally. Though it would reduce the effectivity of aimbotting a little.

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It'd be better than nothing.

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I'm no dev but I doubt it'd be hard to implement.
[X movement value] > [X movement limit] = ban until review.

scenic mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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So your saying if I throw my mouse across my desk I will get a ban

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Hopefully

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!!

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Cheater

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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No. But if you throw your mouse across your desk and hit 3 headshots, then yes. Catch this ban.

scenic mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Ok

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

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If someone is moving at 900units per second in CS, they're probably speed hacking. Ban.

tulip mantle Apr 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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No really. What happened to vacnet. Or did I dream that?

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That AI that was looking at players aiming to determine if it was human

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Why is it gone

fallow flume Apr 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Certainly ran into issues that they aren't sure how to easily fix.

gentle quail Apr 26, 2020, 1:27 AM

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the fact that there are minecraft servers that will insta ban for people teleporting around the map and siege doesnt

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is fucking sad

drowsy turtle Apr 26, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

worn notch Apr 26, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

sage oar Apr 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

tough impBOT Apr 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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GG @sage oar, you just advanced to level 16 !

oak galleon Apr 26, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

round kindle Apr 26, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Dude every videogame just seems to be getting destroyed by cheaters. CoD has rampant cheaters. CS and TF2 had that recent breach. Destiny cheaters are reportedly up by 50%. Siege has had a bad season of cheaters in it's high ranks. Plenty of Valorant cheaters beating RIOT's 'impenetrable anticheat'. Just cheaters everywhere dude. Sucks.

young drum Apr 26, 2020, 7:42 AM

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ppW

gentle quail Apr 26, 2020, 7:42 AM

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ppW

scenic mantle Apr 26, 2020, 7:55 AM

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ppW

oak galleon Apr 26, 2020, 8:01 AM

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ppW

round kindle Apr 26, 2020, 9:54 AM

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YEP

fresh harness Apr 26, 2020, 9:55 AM

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YEP

fallow flume Apr 26, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Good talk. ppWAR

drowsy turtle Apr 26, 2020, 10:08 AM

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YEP

fallow flume Apr 26, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@molten marlin Diamond! 💎

molten marlin Apr 26, 2020, 11:19 AM

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yay

fallow flume Apr 26, 2020, 11:19 AM

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ppWAR 👍🏼

scenic mantle Apr 26, 2020, 11:19 AM

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yay

ripe notch Apr 26, 2020, 11:21 AM

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good job gamer

molten marlin Apr 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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peepoHeart

round kindle Apr 26, 2020, 11:27 AM

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yay

wraith dagger Apr 26, 2020, 12:56 PM

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playing b180 reload is so liberating

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please include it

fallow flume Apr 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Understood. Personally I like Leap180 Reload better. Less easy pattern.

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s-mod

flint pollenBOT Apr 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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☄️ Moderator Applications
http://bit.ly/2S4btjg

vital girder Apr 26, 2020, 11:38 PM

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The people on this sparky weekly are crack heads

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882.4 is #3 and im at #4 with 869.6

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insane trackers man wtf

worn notch Apr 26, 2020, 11:43 PM

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who is number 1

oak galleon Apr 26, 2020, 11:45 PM

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hebe

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with 891.8

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Insane.

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Rallex asserting dominance.

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@spark tulip Assert further.

spark tulip Apr 27, 2020, 12:11 AM

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playing ff14

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ill play the scene later

long bough Apr 27, 2020, 12:11 AM

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rallex

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whatcha get

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hahahaha

worn notch Apr 27, 2020, 12:12 AM

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wow

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rallex

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okay

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daan made them lower health

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are they really that much lower?

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and the original is

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 1:26 AM

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pepeThink

spark tulip Apr 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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@fallow flume its done

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Thinking about how Kosei just asserted dominance with ease.

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Well done, my son.

wraith dagger Apr 27, 2020, 4:49 AM

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havent tried leap yet

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just want something with no accuracy multiplier, its so hard for me to go slow on purpose

rare socket Apr 27, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Is there a leap reload yet?

ripe notch Apr 27, 2020, 9:43 AM

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In season 3, there is this fucking hilarious episode called Pick Rick. And get this, HE TURNS HIMSELF INTO PICKLE!!!! BWAAHAHAHA! Funniest shit I've ever seen!

tulip mantle Apr 27, 2020, 9:44 AM

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FunnySpongebob

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Good one, Limown.

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Not sure, Daan.

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If not, make one.

spark tulip Apr 27, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Yes there is a reload version

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Am sure, Daan.

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Don't need to make one.

rare socket Apr 27, 2020, 1:00 PM

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great, il check it out later

sage oar Apr 27, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Toast you played the fuckin reload scen lmaooo

fallow flume Apr 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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ahem Am sure, Daan.

rare socket Apr 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I did play it too haha, dont remember it

velvet wing Apr 28, 2020, 12:34 AM

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🤔

round kindle Apr 28, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@civic kettle Diamond 💎
nice work!!! pepeJAM

civic kettle Apr 28, 2020, 9:47 PM

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fuck yea only took 28 days Pog

sacred birch Apr 28, 2020, 11:37 PM

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@hollow vine Platinum.

round kindle Apr 29, 2020, 12:21 AM

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yay

edgy knoll Apr 29, 2020, 3:56 AM

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@civic kettle wow grinder

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Could you make a book

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Please

long bough Apr 29, 2020, 5:13 AM

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weird

vestal jackal Apr 29, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Anyone in New Zealand that wants a G-SR-SE lemme know, we're doing a group buy

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 8:40 AM

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how much?

fallow flume Apr 29, 2020, 10:30 AM

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600 Vbucks.

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 10:31 AM

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thats a steal

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 10:52 AM

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I noticed a big influx of new people or repeat 'silly' type of questions in #advice mostly coming from people without any roles

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We have an advice FAQ, and not all of these questions are included yet

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If anyone notices it too and knows which questions specifically feel free to @ me here and tell me about it

waxen willow Apr 29, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@worn notch what about creating a #lookingforplayers/team channel?

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Sini thats well and good of people actually read the FAQ before asking

civic whaleBOT Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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I hate this meme.

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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People don't read anything

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Yeah maybe have the bot do the FAQ/ pinned on a timer?

civic whaleBOT Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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I hate this meme.

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Can't really do much about it, but if you tell them when they ask they will

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I have edited the #read channel so for people that do read that when they join they'll know they should read the FAQ, it's also pinned in advice and we can use the bot command to refer to when needed. Not sure what else we can do, I feel like the bot would be obnoxious.

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Also deleted other invite links, so people always land in #read channel

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Yeah

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Someone suggested an advice channel for people with roles only

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Or Diamond+

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So we can give more quality advice

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Not sure how active that would be

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And whether it's a good idea to split it at all

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:24 PM

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But that stops a lot of potential good advice as well

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Most people without roles give pretty bad advice

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Yeah

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Have been noticing that

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This very channel could be for that

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We have a big influx of new people

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I think last week we had 5K members

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Well wasnt that pretty much what #coaching was for

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Now we are at 5687

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Yeah insane growth

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Coaching was meant as a way where higher ranks sort of mentor and help out lower ranks in the form of vod reviews

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But it wasn't really used that way

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I remember some people suggesting it and say they'd be glad to help

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But the idea died out quickly

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So instead renamed it to vodreviews so people can more easily provide vods and get help that way

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Since they know exactly what it stands for

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And now it's open to all

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@worn notch what about creating a #lookingforplayers/team channel?
@waxen willow Let me make a poll and see if it's desireable

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:38 PM

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I have also thought of somthing like medalist or ex MVP for clip comp could be good to have

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 1:49 PM

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@worn notch I think having an advice role similar to the way we have "health" and "tech" would be a good idea

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but then again Im not sure if the average person would care enough to check who theyre getting advice from

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Yeah thats always the issue they dont look for that

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 1:50 PM

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and like Id say put smth in the channel description or pins about it

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but we all know that most people dont read those

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because they consistently ask questions that would be answered if they did

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Yeah I know that other discords face that problem as well

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They have wiki pages full of info

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And people can just search everything up

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But people are laz

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lazy

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and ask it instead

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 1:52 PM

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yea it's an issue that you cant fix through like logical means

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Another option is to change advice to like #aim-help and #game-help

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but I feel like that wouldn't change much

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maybe more game specific questions

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in game help

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but probably still the same stuff in aim help

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Ive been hoping people would use the games chat channels for game specific vods and advice

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but it seems to be like 60/40 on whether people go to advice or the specific channels

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one of the small issues Ive had with trying help some people, is theyll come in advice and be like "why am I so inconsistent" or "why do I aim so much better in kovaaks than in game" and then all that can really be said is the generic advice about "positioning, xhair placement, movement, etc are important in game"

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but you cant get more specific than that unless they elaborate on the games they play

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:00 PM

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yeah they don't provide context

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:01 PM

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yea that wouldve been a much easier way to say it lmao

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Sini you should include ways to get smoother (raising sens/ lowering fov) and quicker (lowering sens... in the advice faq

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:02 PM

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The amount of times

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I have retyped the smoothness routine

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in the past 3 days

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like at this point Im pretty sure the people who are asking could scroll up 10 lines

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and see it at least once

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I will write-up a bot command + add it to the FAQ

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Thank you

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s-smoothness will be command

tulip mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Make it so people cannot write in the discord, unless they find a "hidden" emoji in the FAQ, with which they have to react to a bot message to get writing perms

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Id suggest putting: thin gauntlet, tali, b180 tracking smoothness, pgti, clsi or smth similar so ppl dont ask "what scens besides thin gauntlet do I use for smoothness?"

tulip mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:09 PM

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obnoxious but at least somebody will read it

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Could work

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Think that would be too obnoxious

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I like that idea @tulip mantle

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Would get many dms from confused people

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But reacting

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With emoji

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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But then people might just ask advice in like general and aimtrainers

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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before being able to write

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could work

tulip mantle Apr 29, 2020, 2:10 PM

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or just make them "acknowledge" the resources

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ye

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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^^

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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hide all channels

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on default

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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mhmmm

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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react with emoji

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to get perms

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but then if bot offline

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rip

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:11 PM

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But then does the invite link go to #resources, #roles, #rules, or #read

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:12 PM

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all the invite links currently go to #read

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I recently cleared it up

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📎 unknown.png

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I think the /sparky doesn't count as invite code so it doesn't track the uses

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:14 PM

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right now I feel like #unknown acts like a mix between #archived-chat and #advice

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just a random thought, not really related to the current conversation

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:14 PM

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yeah im surprised people help in that channel

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:16 PM

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maybe if #resources was moved under Help Center instead of Info more people would look at it?

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idk im just kinda throwing shit against a wall at this point

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:17 PM

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funny

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it was under help center

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before

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and i had a few people suggest

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it to be under info

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 2:17 PM

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that is pretty funny

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 2:17 PM

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yeah

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but I think

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it makes sense to be under info

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and when we reference to #resources

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you can click on it

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and it will go to the channel

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so it works

zinc dragon Apr 29, 2020, 2:53 PM

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i think the bot linking the faq on a timer would be good tbh

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also if there is a way to make ppl understand that they're not magically gonna become god aimers overnight that would be cool too lol

round kindle Apr 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I remember some people suggesting it and say they'd be glad to help
But the idea died out quickly
@worn notch we could do something with the bot to get more engagement out of mentors
where "mentors" sign up
and then if people have questions they want to ask
they have to go through the bot
which could have like a reaction menu and stuff they can go through in a private message

so for example:

someone posts s-getadvice in the commands channel
the bot messages them, asking for what kind of aiming type they are asking advice about (click/track/switch/movement)
then the bot asks them for other things related to their advice question (smoothness, speed, etc...)
3.5) they type their question to the bot (or the bot ends the question if it has been answered already)
then the bot selects a mentor that has signed up and messages them in a channel we set up here, that only mentors can type in
if the person getting helped wants to respond, they need to use the bot to respond (s-reply maybe?)

for 2) and 3) we could have links to common responses and things they could do
so people can easily find stuff

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I actually like this idea a lot
I was trying to think of smth similar but my ideas involved slow mode on the channel for people w/o a specific role, which has plenty of flaws

round kindle Apr 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I think this would engage people more and force them to look things up, or at least be presented with the info

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 6:10 PM

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huekk is genius

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 6:11 PM

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seems like a cool idea

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I wonder who'd be interested in being a mentor though

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 6:12 PM

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would also depend on if youd want there to be specific pre-reqs for the role

marble gulch Apr 29, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Mentors sound like a good idea tbh

vital girder Apr 29, 2020, 7:39 PM

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is it possible to make the timer smaller

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Yeah thats sounds like a good idea but most of the questions are random ones that start with is this better than or how to get better in and what about questions about sens or mousepad etc

round kindle Apr 29, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@short leaf Masters PES_Sword
nice work!!! catdance

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@marble gulch diamond!
keep it up! cattodance

marble gulch Apr 29, 2020, 9:14 PM

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:D

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Road to master

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@round kindle you forgot to give me dia xD

sick crypt Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 PM

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i honestly am so confused with my reaction time

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when i take human benchmark test i consistently get 160s and then sometimes i get a streak of 4 180+

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and then it goes back and forth

ripe notch Apr 29, 2020, 9:25 PM

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huekk omg big noob mod wtfff

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 9:26 PM

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hbm isnt a good test

marble gulch Apr 29, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@worn notch

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Look at chat xD

round kindle Apr 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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sorry @marble gulch

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me noob

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T_T

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fixed

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thanks @ripe notch

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better mod than me

marble gulch Apr 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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xD

ripe notch Apr 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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peepoHappy6

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 9:47 PM

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limown for mod?

ripe notch Apr 29, 2020, 9:56 PM

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no i need SparkyGG rank color clout

worn notch Apr 29, 2020, 10:02 PM

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angerykirby

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 10:05 PM

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also an idea for advice would be a slow mode for people under diamond

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if thats posible

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I thought about that but then that kinda handicaps people when theyre trying to respond to the people giving advice if they werent specific enough at the start

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Thats a good way to make people ask a specific question from the start

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:10 PM

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we both know they wont

scenic mantle Apr 29, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yeah they wont realise

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Then no one will reply

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Works better than spamming imo

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:12 PM

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then theyll just spam their question over and over again every time they get a chance

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Thats true

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But they do it anyways

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:13 PM

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idk I like the idea huekk had

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but idk how difficult it would be

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to implement

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I dont think a lot of people would do that tho

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And if someone does they might not be able to answer every question

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I mean at the current rate #advice goes at

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I feel like me or anima get through a good amount of them?

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the white names usually end up getting to some tho and theyre usually

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pretty bad

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but yea youre right

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manpower in terms of who wants to be a "mentor"

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Yes you guys will get some kind of mental illness soon

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:16 PM

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will be a struggle depending on who wants to do it

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LOL

summer wedge Apr 29, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I never open advice unless im really bored

gentle quail Apr 29, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I am always very bored

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so

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advice has pretty much been my "entertainment" the past few weeks

vital girder Apr 30, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Ok so my gm vod for b180 doesnt have sound do I have to redo it?

ripe notch Apr 30, 2020, 1:29 AM

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dont think so

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my pasu dodge easy score had no audio and i just put music over it and it got accepted

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so u should be fine mr.connor

scenic mantle Apr 30, 2020, 1:29 AM

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yeah dont think sound matters

round kindle Apr 30, 2020, 1:36 AM

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ye no sound is fine 🙂

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gratz on the gm score

vital girder Apr 30, 2020, 1:38 AM

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thank the lord

sturdy swan Apr 30, 2020, 1:39 AM

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oh my

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you actually going for gm

vital girder Apr 30, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I have 2 scores so far

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and im close on 1 targetswitch

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but tracking is gonna be hard

sturdy swan Apr 30, 2020, 1:39 AM

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go be a yellow boy

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pink gang

fallow flume Apr 30, 2020, 9:54 AM

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@thick falcon Diamond II ! 💎 💎

scenic mantle Apr 30, 2020, 9:55 AM

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yay

marble gulch Apr 30, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Grats!

tough impBOT Apr 30, 2020, 10:06 AM

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GG @marble gulch, you just advanced to level 6 !

fallow tiger Apr 30, 2020, 10:17 AM

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is there anyone that is ascended?

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or eclispe

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damn

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that would be insane to be that good in every category

scenic mantle Apr 30, 2020, 10:19 AM

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damn indeed

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 10:51 AM

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#638686692785782784

round kindle Apr 30, 2020, 1:44 PM

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@fallow tiger yu could probably get eclipse back easily

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but hasnt played in months

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@worn notch you think it would be possible to add movement to the plat+ routines?

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or do you think movement would warrant its own separate routines

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 5:52 PM

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it would most likely warrant its own

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because it's not really optimal

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far from actually

umbral fjord Apr 30, 2020, 5:53 PM

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i think aimer7s strafe aim guide

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seems pretty new still

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 5:53 PM

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that one is quite recent yeah

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i think the scenarios can be better tho

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 5:53 PM

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yea I do aimer's strafe guide when I want to work on movement scens

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but mostly since the sparky routines condense

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very well

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was why I was asking

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 5:54 PM

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i think the most logical thing would be to make movement its own separate thing

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cuz if we add it to the other sheet

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there will be so many different variations of routines possible

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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mmm thats true, also you would probably have to explain movement patterns in order of increasing difficulty/complexity similar to the way aimer's does

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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ye

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 5:55 PM

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otherwise everyone (that doesnt have the pre-existing knowledge) would just circle strafe/adad and wouldnt actually improve other than score

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 5:57 PM

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movement scenarios need decent explanation

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for sure

umbral fjord Apr 30, 2020, 5:58 PM

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aimers strafe guide is more for a real game than kovaaks id say though, but thats the point of a routine lol

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 6:00 PM

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ye there has to be guides divided by objective

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that's why I made game specific routines

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and overall fundamental routines

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and for movement well

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i think you can do the same

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but it's not just mouse control anymore

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with movement

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 6:02 PM

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yea

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aimer's guide does a pretty decent job of explaining fundamentals of movement, but still requires supplement from actual games in order to be efficient

graceful cairn Apr 30, 2020, 6:07 PM

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movement scenarios are tough *for me

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 9:36 PM

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#638686692785782784 guys

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please vote!

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 9:37 PM

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dbt clip best clip

scenic mantle Apr 30, 2020, 9:37 PM

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no

gentle quail Apr 30, 2020, 9:37 PM

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valorant clips boring

worn notch Apr 30, 2020, 9:38 PM

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i like them

round kindle Apr 30, 2020, 9:47 PM

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modern warfare best clip PES_Sniper

vital girder Apr 30, 2020, 9:56 PM

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anyone know how many kills you need for 630 on dev?

scenic mantle Apr 30, 2020, 9:57 PM

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how many points for a kill

umbral fjord Apr 30, 2020, 9:57 PM

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like 104 kills

vital girder Apr 30, 2020, 9:57 PM

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thx

sage oar May 1, 2020, 1:28 AM

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@round kindle can you send me SDK's rtoutine again

round kindle May 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1savkUK0I4lJTfIDGh8Q4E5won32Ze1_D36_d0AfuMyc/edit

sage oar May 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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ty

gentle quail May 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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mmmmmmm

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thats whos that is

spiral moss May 1, 2020, 2:50 AM

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The grind for Diamond beings

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ppW

scenic mantle May 1, 2020, 2:53 AM

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you can do it

spiral moss May 1, 2020, 2:54 AM

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yay

vestal jackal May 1, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Someone good play leap 360 tracking small please

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I struggle to grind a scenario without a score to try and beat

round kindle May 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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yeye done

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39 now @vestal jackal

vestal jackal May 1, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ty

fallow flume May 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@sleek hearth Diamond II ! 💎 💎

sleek hearth May 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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plateau time blobderpy

oak galleon May 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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oof

tulip mantle May 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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HELL YEAH!

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get that plateau!

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you can do it!

fallow flume May 2, 2020, 2:41 PM

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@soft silo Diamond! 💎

soft silo May 2, 2020, 2:41 PM

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fuck that guy

fallow flume May 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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ppHands

soft silo May 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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faze bad always polluting channels

fallow flume May 3, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@thorn depot Diamond! 💎

soft silo May 4, 2020, 12:07 AM

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can i have image persm back

tulip mantle May 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Convert the picture you want to post into server emotes on your private Discord.
Don't need img perms that way

gentle quail May 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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but you do need nitro

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🙂

tulip mantle May 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Sacrifice

fallow flume May 4, 2020, 2:06 AM

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More people need less image perms if anything.

worn notch May 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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new commands flex

#

s-smoothness

flint pollenBOT May 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

#

🍵 Smoothness routine
▫️ change your fov to 80 overwatch
▫️ increase your sensitivity by 10-20%
▫️ play precision / smoothness scenarios
▫️ thin gauntlet, pasu track invincible, popcorn goated tracking invincible, bounce 180 tracking invincible fixed

worn notch May 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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s-speedroutine

flint pollenBOT May 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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💨 Speed routine
Good for gaining more speed on large angles
▫️ play any 360 scenario (tile frenzy - standard 01 relax), fov 130 and sensitivity divided by 2-4 (10-15 min)
▫️ play any 360 scenario (tile frenzy flick or patTargetSwitch 360), fov 130 and sensitivity divided by 2-4 (10-15 min)

rare socket May 4, 2020, 2:44 PM

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tile frenzy standard or flick are not 360 btw

summer wedge May 4, 2020, 2:47 PM

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wow sini not even giving credits to the creator

worn notch May 4, 2020, 3:13 PM

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tile frenzy standard or flick are not 360 btw
@rare socket yeah it should say 360 scenario or any of the examples

manic peak May 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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smoothness routine made me my aim feel yummy

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i want to eat my aim

waxen willow May 4, 2020, 7:20 PM

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weird

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 2:39 AM

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@fringe steeple Diamond! 💎

fringe steeple May 5, 2020, 2:40 AM

#

HYPERS

round kindle May 5, 2020, 2:51 AM

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yay

oak galleon May 5, 2020, 2:53 AM

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yay

vital girder May 5, 2020, 5:15 AM

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hmmm

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I recognize your twitch chris

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you from mob

#

?

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oh I see mutual server nice

worn notch May 5, 2020, 5:19 AM

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zHypeDance

fringe steeple May 5, 2020, 5:38 AM

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@vital girder yeah I watch froste and mako sometimes

vital girder May 5, 2020, 5:39 AM

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for some reason I recognized your twitch lol

fringe steeple May 5, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i watch a lot of twitch so yea lol i'm pretty sure i've seen your name as well

round kindle May 5, 2020, 10:01 AM

#

s-smoothness

flint pollenBOT May 5, 2020, 10:01 AM

#

🍵 Smoothness routine
▫️ change your fov to 80 overwatch
▫️ increase your sensitivity by 10-20%
▫️ play precision / smoothness scenarios
▫️ thin gauntlet, pasu track invincible, popcorn goated tracking invincible, bounce 180 tracking invincible fixed

soft silo May 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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toast i understasnd that but i still want image persm

gentle quail May 5, 2020, 4:25 PM

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dont lose them in the first place?

#

🙃

waxen willow May 5, 2020, 4:39 PM

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🙃

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@junior pier Master II ! master master

junior pier May 5, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

yay

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

ppWAR 👍🏼

junior pier May 5, 2020, 4:56 PM

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gm 2 soon 🤙

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@round kindle Grandmaster II ! ⚔️ ⚔️

junior pier May 5, 2020, 5:11 PM

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POGGERS

round kindle May 5, 2020, 5:18 PM

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yay

keen patrol May 5, 2020, 5:25 PM

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yay

vital girder May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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nice

rare iris May 5, 2020, 6:00 PM

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poggies

worn notch May 5, 2020, 6:43 PM

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catdance

sturdy swan May 5, 2020, 7:18 PM

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AYY

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 8:51 PM

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@round kindle Grandmaster! ⚔️

sturdy swan May 5, 2020, 9:27 PM

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AYY

limber umbra May 5, 2020, 9:31 PM

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pogU

velvet wing May 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

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aPES_Cheering @round kindle

round kindle May 5, 2020, 9:40 PM

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peepoLove

scenic mantle May 5, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yay

rare socket May 5, 2020, 9:46 PM

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damn today was a good day for aimers it seesm

patent beacon May 5, 2020, 10:00 PM

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wow, truly.. them some high ranks people have been achieving today

fallow flume May 5, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@patent beacon Diamond! 💎

patent beacon May 5, 2020, 10:03 PM

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pepeStar

vital girder May 5, 2020, 10:12 PM

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nice

worn notch May 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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We're looking for people who'd be interested in helping others out

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1:1 type of help rather than generalized help

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if you're interested dm me

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:38 PM

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@round kindle teach me how to strafe aim

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Lol

round kindle May 6, 2020, 12:38 PM

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you get good first with 1w6ts

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then realise

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that everything else is piss easy

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Bahahaha

gentle quail May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Mirror for score

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Mirror aiming literally does not compute in my brain. I default to anti mirror lol

gentle quail May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Practice diff movement patterns for improvement

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Yea i did too until i did like 2 ql lg duels

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Cause it finally clicked

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Been doing a lot of circle strafinf

gentle quail May 6, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Circle strafing is kinda fine for lgc3 but sub optimal for the rest of them

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Altho maybe its good for air dodge too, i havent seen many vods for that one

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:40 PM

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It worked for pistol strafe for me

gentle quail May 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Clicking movement scens ResidentSleeper

silent nova May 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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mirror is antimirror on direction change so you need to flick then do nothing 🙂

gentle quail May 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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You need less mouse movement for mirror so it is better for score

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Esp against long strafe bots

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Aimer’s guide v good tho in terms of prac movement aim

sage oar May 6, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Yeah i still havent read jt

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Hard to read aimers stuff imo

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Doesnt appeal to me

viscid laurel May 6, 2020, 1:12 PM

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its written like a scientific article, which is why its good but I guess thats probably why it doesn't appeal to everyone to read

sage oar May 6, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Hahahahahah

round kindle May 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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PoggersRow

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gratz @round kindle !!!

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catdance

round kindle May 6, 2020, 5:37 PM

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tyty peepoLove @round kindle

pallid osprey May 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Yo, is there any germen guy ? dm pls

limber umbra May 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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what do you need @pallid osprey

round kindle May 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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may i get a twitch invite? @worn notch Shamefulll3

round kindle May 7, 2020, 2:57 PM

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im assuming valorant rank will get blitz role yes?

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not that i have it but

gentle quail May 7, 2020, 3:00 PM

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prob will be like ~~Immortal 3~~ Valorant for Blitz

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or if Riot ends up doing a T500 type ladder

edgy knoll May 7, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Fr But people are saying valorant is too ez to reach

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Like in ow you gotta be 4.5k

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Not gm

finite ruin May 7, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I doubt Blitz would be Immortal, Valorant sounds more accurate considering OW is 4.4k+ which is high t500, and champion for R6 sooo

worn notch May 7, 2020, 4:58 PM

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OW is 4.5K

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Too early to say anything about blitz rank for Valorant

edgy knoll May 7, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Wait I knew it was 4.5

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Fck u made me edit it

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Notan

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:<

fallow flume May 7, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@sleek hearth Master! master

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ppWAR 👍🏼

sleek hearth May 7, 2020, 7:25 PM

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master II in a bit, gm in a bit longer

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shameless plug: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRqFDec1iAQIj35UbT9_2mQ/

rare socket May 7, 2020, 7:30 PM

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yay

junior pier May 7, 2020, 7:33 PM

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ow 4.5

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is honestly too high

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like

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thats

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top 50 territory

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contenders level

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at least

edgy knoll May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I mean that's why its bliz

drowsy turtle May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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thats kinda the point

edgy knoll May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Blitz is for contenders level

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Semi pro

drowsy turtle May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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its supposed to be top tier

edgy knoll May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

Level

drowsy turtle May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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not something everyone can get

junior pier May 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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ye but it was way easier to peak 4.5+ when it was top200

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or something

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just saying

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not really fair

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tbh

drowsy turtle May 7, 2020, 7:38 PM

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also not fair to then have like

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20 people who are blitz cuz they are 4.4+ peak in ow

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compared to other blitz members from other games

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thats why its so high in the first place

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there was too many people with blitz from ow

junior pier May 7, 2020, 7:40 PM

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could be true

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but people just get a lucky winstreak once

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and get high

ripe notch May 7, 2020, 11:31 PM

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good job ins!

fallow flume May 8, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Good job, Limown!

ripe notch May 8, 2020, 1:02 AM

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thanks peeposhy

fallow flume May 8, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

Update regarding VOD submissions in #announcements!

round kindle May 8, 2020, 4:50 AM

#

peeposhy

marble gulch May 8, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Champ in R6 I think is easier than 4.5k in OW tbh

polar fern May 8, 2020, 2:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsfV2xL2NdQ

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Noob vs pro

fallow flume May 8, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@obtuse dome Diamond! 💎

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Not at the moment, Zofox.

gentle quail May 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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champ in r6 currently

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requires extreme luck

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with matchmaking

sage oar May 8, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Or hacks lol

gentle quail May 8, 2020, 6:37 PM

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well the hackers are why i say you need extreme luck

sage oar May 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I know aljo i know

fallow flume May 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@magic hatch Diamond! 💎

magic hatch May 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

#

blastoise

rare socket May 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

#

nais

round kindle May 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

mendoAYAYA

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yay

ripe notch May 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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good job mr.dps 😎 👍

magic hatch May 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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thx bros

round kindle May 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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thanks @ripe notch

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🙂 👍

ripe notch May 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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🙂 👍

fallow flume May 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Omahgawd Limown mmmmh.

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pepeArt

ripe notch May 9, 2020, 1:25 AM

#

pepeArt

long bough May 9, 2020, 1:31 AM

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pepeArt pepeArt pepeArt

round kindle May 9, 2020, 1:36 AM

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peepoShy

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@ripe notch animated one

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peepoHeart

ripe notch May 9, 2020, 1:37 AM

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omg

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where

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:peepoShy:

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peepoShy

round kindle May 9, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

pepeArt

shut flower May 9, 2020, 1:38 AM

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s-zic

flint pollenBOT May 9, 2020, 1:38 AM

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zic ziceroo

sage oar May 9, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yo did this shit UI change change my resolution?

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shit feels off

summer wedge May 9, 2020, 5:48 PM

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You could add a playlist file to the sparky routines doc

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So people can download them directly

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Instead of serching for the scens

fallow flume May 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

If anyone would like to help moderate and review applications, feel free to apply here:

#

s-mod

flint pollenBOT May 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

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☄️ Moderator Applications
http://bit.ly/2S4btjg

fallow flume May 9, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

@sleek hearth Master II ! master master

sleek hearth May 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I am speed

round kindle May 9, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@round kindle GrandMaster zBolty zBolty zBolty
insaneeee Pog

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(sent in wrong channel before)

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❤️

#

yay

oak galleon May 9, 2020, 8:16 PM

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valenbel insane POGGERS

rare socket May 9, 2020, 8:17 PM

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WOOOO

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nice

#

yay

round kindle May 9, 2020, 8:21 PM

#

Ty guys <3<3

limber umbra May 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

POGGERS

round kindle May 9, 2020, 10:39 PM

#

pog

fallow flume May 9, 2020, 11:02 PM

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@viscid geode Master! master

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ppWAR 👍🏼

ripe notch May 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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INSANE

oak galleon May 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

#

yay

viscid geode May 9, 2020, 11:53 PM

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❤️ ❤️

round kindle May 10, 2020, 1:33 AM

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niceeee @viscid geode Pog catdance

ripe notch May 10, 2020, 1:33 AM

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huekk..

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go watch the boys..

round kindle May 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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@ripe notch too violent

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stabby

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potatoinstaban stab

ripe notch May 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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cattosad

oak galleon May 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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psyPanic

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crazy face ^

ripe notch May 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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what r u watching now ?

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nvm looks like ur on that 'aks grind

round kindle May 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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just gonna kovaaks aha

ripe notch May 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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hell yeah

round kindle May 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

#

find a pg show for next time

fallow flume May 10, 2020, 8:00 AM

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@zinc imp Diamond! 💎

polar fern May 10, 2020, 8:06 AM

#

I'm hard stuck on bounce 180 tracking and bounce 180 lol

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74 on tracking

fallow flume May 10, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Play Leap 180 yay

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Makes everything easier.

polar fern May 10, 2020, 8:18 AM

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ok

#

Resting my hand now

scenic mantle May 10, 2020, 8:20 AM

#

playing leap 180 for 5 minutes then bounce or popcorn is legit cheating gives you god powers

viscid geode May 10, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I need god powers

tough impBOT May 10, 2020, 8:23 AM

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GG @viscid geode, you just advanced to level 3 !

polar fern May 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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yee I need god powers for clicking

viscid geode May 10, 2020, 9:11 AM

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YES RALLEX LETS GOOOO

polar fern May 10, 2020, 9:24 AM

#

How much time do you guys practice

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Me, I do an hour of my regular routine + currently the strafe aim ones so I can say 1 hr 30-40 mins

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I do stretches before, during and after my routines.

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I take around 10-30 sec breaks after 10 mins

round kindle May 10, 2020, 1:53 PM

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@zinc imp!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gratz!! catdance

digital sequoia May 10, 2020, 2:32 PM

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GGs on that Diamond !! yay
Keep the good work

zinc imp May 10, 2020, 3:31 PM

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ty

quasi iris May 10, 2020, 4:08 PM

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does anyone else not like the new ui?

digital sequoia May 10, 2020, 4:24 PM

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It is a bit fat but I like the playlist feature, new sounds are cool too.

rare socket May 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I hope theres gonna be option for pallettes

oak galleon May 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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yeah

ripe notch May 10, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

ya

worn notch May 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

#

pretty sure the ui colors will be adjustable and hud scaling will be there most likely

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I hope we're able to change the font to our liking and the base skin of the game will be changed to something more clean

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the menu colors for settings look pretty decent tbh

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scenario picker could be more compact

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but it isn't the worst

viscid laurel May 10, 2020, 5:33 PM

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If we can change font it will be amazing

rare socket May 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Or they just choose a better default font

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Cause this one looks so old and bad

worn notch May 10, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yeah but being able to change it in general

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would be nice

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and I also think the grey borders make it look a bit wack

quasi iris May 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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custom fonts would be awesome

worn notch May 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I think semi-transparent like 0.85

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and with a more night-mode background color like twitter

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📎 unknown.png

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this color

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much cleaner

gentle quail May 10, 2020, 6:23 PM

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mmmmm sini with the gfx input

#

does look a lot nicer tho

oak galleon May 10, 2020, 6:24 PM

#

they should honestly just have sini do the ui, or at least help them

gentle quail May 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

#

^^

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:18 AM

#

Anime OST's are the ONLY aim training jams you need.

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NO EXCEPTIONS.

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I swear on it. It gives you high score breaking powers. Undisputed.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:19 AM

#

Classical music

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Pretty good

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:19 AM

#

Yes, aljo.
That's why I'm doing both with the Violet Ev. OST.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:20 AM

#

On spotify??

#

Send

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:20 AM

#

YouTube.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:20 AM

#

Damn

#

Pain

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:21 AM

#

No pain. Only aim. https://youtu.be/tFt3uyggrM4?t=381

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:21 AM

#

But not spotify :/

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I should really make a yt playlist

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:21 AM

#

You could find it.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:21 AM

#

Only osts ive found on spotify

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Are sawano

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:22 AM

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The GOAT himself. Honestly, sufficient.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:22 AM

#

very

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Radwimps and Sawano alone

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are both more than enough

#

Fonzi has covers on spotify for Violet, that actually might be sufficient

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:24 AM

#

I have a Certified Anime Bangers YT playlist.

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

#

dm

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Can't. That's too exclusive, and incomplete.

ripe notch May 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

nightcore can also break ur pbs

scenic mantle May 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

^

oak galleon May 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

caramelldansen broke my cfsi score

tulip mantle May 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

nightmare

round kindle May 11, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

nightcore breaks all pbs

tulip mantle May 11, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

nightcore is what is accompanying my nightmares

#

Uptempo Terror breaks pbs

#

Just click to the beat.
While the beat has 200bpm

ripe notch May 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ7xHi8AIjM

round kindle May 11, 2020, 12:41 AM

#

widepeepohappy

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 7:12 AM

#

I don't understand how anyone drinks anything but water.

#

Alpha liquid.

#

Nothing better.

nova wadi May 11, 2020, 7:23 AM

#

I never drink water

patent beacon May 11, 2020, 7:26 AM

#

Water is disgusting. Gotta take the edge off with some juice/squash.

#

ppNO

#

Imagine going to the kitchen thinking ima grab myself a treat, here we go...some water.

#

Couldn't be me

nova wadi May 11, 2020, 7:52 AM

#

Water has no taste

scenic mantle May 11, 2020, 7:52 AM

#

water's flavour is its temp

polar fern May 11, 2020, 8:19 AM

#

water is the best

#

@fallow flume I'm still hard stuck at b180 and b180 tracking

#

Leap makes it easier

#

But I don't know how people manage to go faster in it

scenic mantle May 11, 2020, 8:24 AM

#

move the mouse faster

polar fern May 11, 2020, 8:26 AM

#

Its like if I go sicko mode I can get more hits but I miss a lot as well

round kindle May 11, 2020, 8:37 AM

#

Dont be afraid to miss

polar fern May 11, 2020, 8:41 AM

#

ya

#

I need to take that mentality

oak galleon May 11, 2020, 11:36 AM

#

Imagine not liking water

#

How picky can you be

rare socket May 11, 2020, 11:47 AM

#

water is the best

nova wadi May 11, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

Water is overrated

oak galleon May 11, 2020, 1:00 PM

#

Sure

#

Try surviving without water

patent beacon May 11, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

Just add some flavour to your water

#

Live your life without bland shit

rare socket May 11, 2020, 2:10 PM

#

Here the tapwater is actually good and doesn't taste bad in most european countries i think

#

Exactly

ripe notch May 11, 2020, 2:24 PM

#

i havent consumed a single liquid in 5 years

polar fern May 11, 2020, 2:37 PM

#

@ripe notch what the heck

#

How are you alive then

#

Or are u

ripe notch May 11, 2020, 2:37 PM

#

i be breathin sometimes n shit

tulip mantle May 11, 2020, 2:55 PM

#

pee is the better tasting water

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

how do the mythic, blitz and ascended ranks work

keen patrol May 11, 2020, 8:07 PM

#

#roles

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:12 PM

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thx jambo

#

okay this may sound very stupid, but i've always wondered if god tier aimers have good hand writing

#

due to the motor control involved with aiming and penmanship i wonder if it would translate from one to the other

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

if there is a correlation there that would be kinda interesting

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

yeah that's what i was thinking

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

Someone should do a research on it

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

any gm's have input with their own experience?

clever quartz May 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

they dont always have no

#

good hand writing is more about giving a shit about aesthetics

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

true

clever quartz May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

kroad has bad handwriting

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

But I doubt there's a correlation big enough to even matter

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

yea

clever quartz May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

is what i know

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

yeah me neither

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

I have decent hand writing

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

maybe bigger correlation to smoothness

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

I can write really fast and then it's ugly tho

#

it depends

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

i always write fast and its decently ugly

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

basically what patys said

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

yep

worn notch May 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

if you care about it you could make it look good

sick crypt May 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

agreed

patent beacon May 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

i have nice handwriting

#

my aim is shit

scenic mantle May 11, 2020, 8:35 PM

#

I am the opposite

weary mural May 11, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

KovaaK's Pen and Paper Handwritting Trainer

sage oar May 11, 2020, 9:05 PM

#

Lolol

#

I dont aim w my writing hand

#

Sooo

manic peak May 11, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

just write with your foot pogU

nocturne hound May 11, 2020, 10:04 PM

#

My penmanship is terrible but I’m not passionate about it, I could be better if I wanted to be

#

But I actively try to be a better aimer

tulip mantle May 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

#

In elementary school our german grade was made up of how pretty your handwriting is

#

I had a 5

#

Sometimes I look at the things I write and wonder if I'm retarded

gentle quail May 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

#

LOL

ripe notch May 11, 2020, 11:24 PM

#

my handwriting looks like complete ass

fallow flume May 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

#

@sour flax Master II ! master master

fallow flume May 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

#

That's it. I've decided.

#

I'm running for president.

#

I will implement strict cheating reformations. With this new structure, accused dropshotters may be sentenced to up to life in prison while wallhackers found guilty will be subjected to the death penalty.
Our support players are not treated equally under our welfare system. This... needs to change.
Meta-character players who choose said class solely with the intent to exploit or abuse unbalanced mechanics due to their lack of skill will be taxed to that of the highest bracket alongside the Twitch Thots.
It's time we start giving proper support and aid to the ADC. The Entry-fraggers. The opening killers. For those who give their lives to initiate the round for the betterment of their team deserve better compensation for their valorous sacrifices in the form of Veteran benefits. BUT WE WON'T STOP THERE.
THE AWPers HAVE HAD IT TOO EASY FOR TOO LONG. NO MORE DROPS BEFORE THE ENTRY AND SUPPORT PLAYERS.
MY GAMERS. YOU NEED SAVE YOUR ULTS NO LONGER. The days of farming the same bosses over and over again to afford the auction house are behind you.
RAID WITH YOUR EXPENSIVE GEAR. PUSH FOR SOCIAL EQUALITY. Just compensation and equal drops will be provided for all-- even to those who achieve final hit!
AFK FISHERMEN, WE WILL EXPAND YOUR PORTS GREATLY AND PULL BACK FISHING LIMITATIONS FOR RARE ITEMS.
SPORTS PLAYERS, NEW FIELDS ARE TO BE PLANTED.
PET TRAINERS, FOOD WILL BE PROVIDED PUBLICLY AT EVERY POKESTOP.
FIGHTING GAMERS, CONTROLLER INSURANCE WILL BE MORE ACCESSIBLE tvscreenreplacementsnotincluded.
SIMULATOR PLAYERS...... GET A LIFE.
SANDBOX PLAYERS, WANDER NO LONGER. Settle and your land will be granted with full property rights.
RACING PLAYERS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE WILL REPLACE THE OLYMPICS with organized SPEEDRUNNING championships, viewed exclusively by livestream.
TAX BRACKETS WILL BE BASED UPON THE PEOPLE'S AIM TRAINER SCORE POSITION ON THE LEADERBOARDS.

I will give the people what they need.
#ToastofWar2024

#

ppWAR

gentle quail May 12, 2020, 12:19 AM

#

your policy proposals

#

drowned out my 👎

edgy knoll May 12, 2020, 1:05 AM

#

quake be like

#

🙂

#

hello there

neon mountain May 12, 2020, 1:12 AM

#

Same on Apex Legends , cheater everywhere in EU ranked , that terrible

gentle quail May 12, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

siege has had a bad last 6 months with cheaters

edgy knoll May 12, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

quake doenst have those many cheaters does it?

gentle quail May 12, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

it just somehow managed to get worse after covid