overwatch

[clever gate]

yes

become qp warrior

like me

its fun

qp gaming

[toxic fjord]

missed the mercy 💔

[clever gate]

yes

i had to laugh

because the tracer tbagged me before and i was mentally already prepared to shit talk

LMFAOOOOOOO

[hard heath]

Bro but u did before

[hard heath]

I’d rather die

You will crash out

I swear to god

I am horrid at the game

[terse owl]

i can queue to like london with 90ms

or whatever eu server it is from where i am

[supple chasm]

@solemn sinew

[clever gate]

ok

lotti will remember that

[hard heath]

Lotti will also crash out if I ask her to queue tank with me

[hard heath]

It’s Amsterdam

I’m genuinely ass at game

Is my point

[clever gate]

TRUE

win win

[hard heath]

I’m good at Mauga

🥺

[clever gate]

no

you are feeding your brains out

[hard heath]

That’s how u play him wym

I kill 6 every fight

[clever gate]

uh huh

.

[hard heath]

6 being myself

[ancient isle]

Im m2 on dps can i make it @queen skiff

[dire dust]

Sucks for you, we have immortal souls since we’re made in God’s image

[hard heath]

Does the 12-1 duo return

[hard heath]

Whatever this fucking means

[dire dust]

Yeah, it’s true lol

[hard heath]

Why are u so certain

Prove this to me empirically

[dire dust]

Did a deep dive into Catholic theology

[hard heath]

Imma stop u right there

😭😭😭😭

[dire dust]

What I mean more to say, our bodies are like a vessel

[dire dust]

Why?

[hard heath]

They aren’t

[dire dust]

Vessel for the soul I mean

[hard heath]

Once again

No

[dire dust]

If you say so :/

[narrow vale]

pge my favorite ow player

[terse owl]

5 stack with joey

? free wins ?

[hard heath]

Who’s the other 3

😭😭

The voltaic stack

It’s just gonna be mauga soldier cass Illari bap

[dire dust]

Sorry, meant to reply to this. Veridical NDEs are the best we have

[hard heath]

😭

Balright bro

Theology will always mystify me

[dire dust]

Can’t really prove it lol, since it’s outside the material realm

[hard heath]

People intentionally just botting their brains out

To believe in some bullshit

So that their shit lives seem less shit

For some grander purpose

Like mmmm yes

[dire dust]

Well, you can’t necessarily disprove it

[hard heath]

I mean I can

Why do I get to be born into boundless riches

When there are child soldiers spawning in daily

If god is benevolent

The answer is cuz that shit don’t exist and it’s just a concept to enslave the droids

[dire dust]

How do you think they’re enslaved?

[hard heath]

If I’m a good little catholic and I let the preacher diddle my kid I’ll go to heaven >.<

sums up about 99 percent of all religious people

[dire dust]

You can do better lol

[hard heath]

Why

There’s no point

lol

At da end of the day religious people need a book to tell them they’re good people bc deep down they know they’re not

[dire dust]

Well, Catholic doctrine doesn’t teach that Heaven is the “reward” per se

[dire dust]

It’s not so much to tell them, but it’s a guide

[hard heath]

A guide based on what

Old white people

I’m so good bro

😭😭😭

Religion is so troll bro

Anyone whos lived in a secular country will tell u horror stories

[dire dust]

Jesus’s teachings

All that to say, you never truly die lol

[abstract sparrow]

cool overwatch chat guys

[dire dust]

That was my main point

[abstract sparrow]

jetpack cat son or mercy pocket daughter

[dire dust]

Send them both to Purgatory.

[hard heath]

Guy never existed

[hard heath]

Again

This is based on bullshit

Like

lol

There is ZEROOO proof otherwise

It’s just books from ppl 3000 years ago on crack saying trust me bro

[dire dust]

Uh, what? Even secular historians know he existed lol

[hard heath]

We still have ppl who believe in ghosts

[narrow seal]

saw the lad once at 7/11

[hard heath]

It’s stupid

[hard heath]

There are historians who also think certain dictators were good people

I don’t trust anyone about anything religious

[dire dust]

I didn't mention that bro lol

[hard heath]

It’s just all LARP

[hard heath]

I’m saying historians when it comes to things have incredible biases

[dire dust]

I'm saying they said he actually existed and walked this planet, and wasn't just a historical figure

[dire dust]

That's why I said secular lol

[hard heath]

Why don’t we have extensive documentation

Of this guy

He was the goat

😭😭😭

Like think about it

Harder than 10 seconds

And it fucking falls apart

[dire dust]

But there is lol

[toxic fjord]

The man of jesus existed

what he did during his life is debated

[dire dust]

Yeah, that's a good point

His divinity is to be argued for, but definitely not his existence

[hard heath]

Idk br

[narrow seal]

yeah the historicity behind the idea that jesus was somebody who existed (divine or not) has not been debated since the 20th century

lets chill out for a bit

[hard heath]

This guy is the goat and apparently all we have to go off

[toxic fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1138433362319646761/1141503711026348094/togif.gif

[hard heath]

Is Roman letters

[narrow seal]

he was definitely a lad

[hard heath]

Yeh

[narrow seal]

was he a gigalad

[hard heath]

Sure

[narrow seal]

thats debated

[hard heath]

He just wasn’t him

Like it’s all LARP

[narrow seal]

yeah but thats different than saying

[hard heath]

LARP LARP LARP sahur

[narrow seal]

that jesus didnt exist

[hard heath]

The Jesus that ppl think of definitely didn’t bro

[narrow seal]

W motte and bailey

Lets Run Some Games

LRSG

[hard heath]

Like fucking Caesar

Is more well documented

Than the second coming of god

Give me a break bro 😭

[dire dust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/crow-meme-low-iq-high-8KXYOYN7VDNK5CHlUJ

[narrow seal]

we are just typing shit

[dire dust]

add me

[hard heath]

We aren’t

[narrow seal]

havent ran anything in 80 years probably not going to boot up the ow

[dire dust]

hop on WF/QL/QC

[narrow seal]

Putt Party be there 8:00pm EST

[hard heath]

Who’s trying to 1v1 destiny 1

[dire dust]

1v1 me on QL and I'll show you the fear of God

or Warfork

[hard heath]

I’m in bed

[toxic fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/voltaic-gif-27368657

[hard heath]

I’ve never played ql

[dire dust]

Telling.

[hard heath]

Literally how

[kindred mulch]

Everytime i play against a sierria im just like that one hulk image where hes pissed

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-fuming-mad-angry-anger-gif-14249840686515616771

Fucking hate that character with a passion

No other character can piss me off, only her

Not even magua is that bad to fight against hes just boring

[narrow vale]

on da comeup

[mellow tendon]

idk why these soldier players talk shit about anything other than aim

like thats the only thing theyre supposed to be good at

[narrow vale]

soldier is just a boring character imo

[red thistle]

soldier is the most honest character in the game

nothing helping u but pure consistent mechanics

cree has luck potential just hit 1 hs every 10 bullets and u get value

and flash...

[paper kindle]

What are some other pure mechanics heroes?

[narrow vale]

tracer maybe

[mellow tendon]

not necessarily pure mechanics like a good chunk of value on her is engagement timing and positioning

aka stuff im not good at

[dark dock]

quick rotations also no?

[ruby urchin]

overwatch most viewed twitch clips of the week #677 and it's just people falling off the map

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-i'm-out-1-3-seconds-1-3-seconds-meme-sliding-gif-18353827383643920094

[marble warren]

what fdps should i learn now that tracer is permabanned in my lobbies?

[signal anchor]

reaper

[light bridge]

junk 🤪

[supple chasm]

? lol

[supple chasm]

The majority of value on tracer is timings

[dark dock]

fuck why am i so inconsistent

with cassidy

at landing shots

[clever gate]

game is bugged

i swear

cass no regs is a thing

[median pecan]

My close range reactive tracking is mid af and i play 47cm at 60hz

I do fine on tracer

Like having good mechanica is a massive bonus but tracer other stuff more important

[runic swan]

If you dont hit your shots its over

[dark dock]

NAH FR

[median pecan]

Like if ur dogshit bad then yeah

Like legit controller aim

Im playing at near 50cm on tracer and i kinda suck at aimer on her but i can do pretty decent

[runic swan]

I meant if you cant finish kills because you choke at the end but you can always be better

[median pecan]

True u can always do better but macro more important

[runic swan]

I saw topdragon unranked to gm that guy is a monster

[signal anchor]

for a discord fully focussed on training your mechanics the people in here really hate to accept the relevance of mechanics

Is it cope because of own shortcomings

[runic swan]

I think macro is more important too but you need mechanics aswell

[signal anchor]

I really wonder what drives people

[median pecan]

Like having good aim on tracer you can legit farm people but some top tracers dont even have like super crazy mechanics they hard carry with their gamesense and timing

[runic swan]

I play genji

Without good positioning he’s useless

[signal anchor]

yall pretend like positioning is this holy grail bro

Unless u position like a disabled person it really doesn't matter that much

[queen skiff]

bc it’s just not that relevant tbf

[queen skiff]

diamond player takes

[runic swan]

I understand what you mean but i couldnt hit my shots before focusing on static and a little bit of dynamic clicking

[signal anchor]

everyone above plat has okay enough positioning it really isn't that big of a deal

[signal anchor]

cope

[haughty sorrel]

do i get the vision @supple chasm

[signal anchor]

can't accept ur aim isn't as good as the pros unfortunately

[runic swan]

Now i shit on people more consistently

[median pecan]

Bro overwatch is litterally super macro dependant

[queen skiff]

i’m sure yk what ur talking abt better than i do bro

[haughty sorrel]

isak mauga comp

[signal anchor]

ur legit in an aim trainer discord why tf yall here

[queen skiff]

to talk abt overwatch

[signal anchor]

why go to lengths to aim train if it's irrelevant

brainlet

[queen skiff]

none of the high rank players aim trajn

in here

lel

[haughty sorrel]

u can just aimtrain everywhere

[signal anchor]

do u think ppl stumbled on voltaic without ever wanting to aim train

a lot of ppl here aim trained at some point and realized it wasn't very useful

[supple chasm]

3-2 uk?

[haughty sorrel]

3 2 norway

[supple chasm]

It’s just gonna be a 3-0

Or should be

For uk

[haughty sorrel]

it should

[signal anchor]

thats crazy lool

[haughty sorrel]

but

[queen skiff]

oh so raw mechs isn’t useful

[signal anchor]

what site is this?

[queen skiff]

[haughty sorrel]

french thing

[queen skiff]

we can tell

[haughty sorrel]

https://avecle6.com/

[runic swan]

I was watching quartz pov yesterday and it was the saddest thing i saw in a while

[queen skiff]

france on top

[haughty sorrel]

https://avecle6.com/pronostics this tab

[queen skiff]

peehaps

[signal anchor]

No the mechs needed in kovaaks or aim trainers are just unrelated to the mechs needed in a game

[runic swan]

Hitscan has to be the most boring shit ever

[signal anchor]

mechs isn't only aim atleast I assume we agree on that

[haughty sorrel]

it is a bit related but like whatever

[signal anchor]

if we're talking pure raw aim then sure

but mechs is blink usage, blink melees, cooldown management, aiming

[median pecan]

I mean my intital point was aim for tracer

[runic swan]

Yeah

[haughty sorrel]

aim matters a lot no matter what hero u play

except moira

[runic swan]

If you find yourself not finishing kills because you choke you gotta hit kovaaks man

[haughty sorrel]

ppl that will tell u it doesnt only play heroes that doesnt require aim or already have great aim or is just master peak

[signal anchor]

in a game about shooting the enemy I'm sure how well you can shoot is a big factor in how good you are at the game

[haughty sorrel]

oh hell nah

[runic swan]

If you cant perform at the last stretch go next

[signal anchor]

Like saying being able to run fast isn't useful in sports that have running as their main thing

[runic swan]

Wdym hell nah

[median pecan]

Yeah lets full sprint in a sport

[toxic fjord]

but shooting isnt the only aspect

[haughty sorrel]

me in basketball with no vert, #DefaultWhiteBuild #FrenchKyleKorver

[runic swan]

If everything builds up to the last moment and you choke what are you supposed to do?

[supple chasm]

We touched them before playoffs so idk

[haughty sorrel]

just focusing about your aim in game then

[haughty sorrel]

ic cause i saw them winning scrims vs u like way before

[runic swan]

Maybe calm yourself down and then see if its an aim problem

[haughty sorrel]

like when pak was scrimming

streaming

[runic swan]

Ok then its still aim training

[haughty sorrel]

streaming the scrim XD

[haughty sorrel]

yes

[runic swan]

I guess you can train in game too

[signal anchor]

Most ppl do

u just get good aim naturally if u play a lot

[haughty sorrel]

OMG YES FINALLY

[runic swan]

I like kovaaks more but its my preference

[signal anchor]

not many people actually consciously analyze their aiming mistakes and work on them

[haughty sorrel]

not for tracer

[median pecan]

Idk i feel like when im playing ow my aim isnt the problem im pretty much always diffing in terms of aim. Gamesense and positioning is so much more important

[signal anchor]

most ppl just play a lot and improve their aim itself

and I think most good players also just enjoy the game a looot

[runic swan]

Im not saying for characters im saying in general

[haughty sorrel]

and some dont cause they dont rly try to

[haughty sorrel]

but i would have better results for soldier than tracer, is what i mean

i guess

[runic swan]

I prefer kovaaks but im not saying its better

[runic swan]

Sure

[haughty sorrel]

(its def not)

mindset is all that matters

[signal anchor]

The amount of times I've thought "wow I can 1v1 diff this chud every time, but I lose because he plays smarter" is countable on 1 hand

[toxic fjord]

its iso training

[signal anchor]

usually I just lose those games because the rest of my team are horrible

Srsly there are more than enough people in diamond that know how to use an ult and not position in the middle of the road

[queen skiff]

right bc u winning. gamw is dictated by how many 1v1s u win

[signal anchor]

what seperates a champ from a diamond player is the fact that the champ player puts out like 4k more damage on average than the diamond player

cuz he aims better

like way better

[queen skiff]

or even how many kills you get and not you soing impactful thinfs at impactful times

[queen skiff]

no it isn’t lolololol

[median pecan]

Nah its not that they win the 1v1 directly its that they use their knowledge to live and to win the teamfight

[queen skiff]

i could have plat tracer mechs and be gm

[haughty sorrel]

??

dmg

[queen skiff]

just off macro and micro

[haughty sorrel]

hahaha

[runic swan]

I used to think i couldnt train genji aim i was playing dynamic basically everyday and seeing little improvement then i tried static and progress skyrocketed and it still is

[signal anchor]

I had a gm smurf in diamond not too long ago on zarya who just had 3x my tank's damage

[queen skiff]

also i can do

[signal anchor]

just rip

[haughty sorrel]

bro diamonds are the best to poke tank main

[median pecan]

?????

Is this bait?

[queen skiff]

2.5kdmg a min

and lose

in masters

dmg doesn’t really matter

[runic swan]

You probably can find super specific scenarios for tracer

[signal anchor]

well not just "aim" but outmech

Do yall really think Quartz isn't one of the best hitscans in the world because he outaims literally everyone

[toxic fjord]

farming roadhog as 80% avg energy zarya

[runic swan]

Im not saying you should spend all the effort for that but if you want i think you can find a lot of value everywhere

[signal anchor]

dude got hackusated back in 2022 for his aim

[queen skiff]

brah

i play

rage hackers

every day

and win

half the time

[supple chasm]

Bro

[queen skiff]

bc they r plats

with aimbot

[signal anchor]

rage hackers are legit bronze players with aimbot

[queen skiff]

exactly

[signal anchor]

they aren't plat they're bronze

[queen skiff]

hence

ur theory of

mechs r everyrhint

is irrelevant

[signal anchor]

ye ur right bro I'm sorry mechs are about 95% of ur skill the other 5% is not being a complete dumbass

if a bronze player can genuinely get champ with an aimbot then u gotta jump through a fuckton of mental hoops to think aim is irrelevant

[queen skiff]

huh

ur just projecting rn i think

thats okay

[signal anchor]

???

Ad hominem

[queen skiff]

thats not an ad hominem lol

that replies to ur argument

[supple chasm]

Just saying

The difference at the very top is aim

Before then it’s macro

Until they are making every right decision every right play

Aim is just to bail out

Make you less bad not good

[queen skiff]

^

[toxic fjord]

ye

[queen skiff]

reply to my argument then @signal anchor why is a diamond aimbotting not c2

surely his mechs r perfect

[toxic fjord]

matty is champ only because his aim is somewhat decent.

[runic swan]

True but its the same at the start too

[queen skiff]

meh he also plays the aim hero so it makes sense. he is still on tempo and mirroring ortations

etc

rotations

hes not stood main

[supple chasm]

Yes

[queen skiff]

9x headshotting

everyone

[supple chasm]

That’s why aim can get you champ

Basically alone

While being a troglodyte

[runic swan]

Like i said i was struggling to hit shots when i was behind them perfect position

[signal anchor]

idk explain to me why a player with bronze mechs and perfect gamesense also isn't c2

[supple chasm]

Cos everyone else also doesn’t understand the game

[runic swan]

At least get consistency down then you can focus on something else

[haughty sorrel]

mbm moment

[supple chasm]

It’s mechanics then knowledge then mechanics

But this is like

[signal anchor]

Besides having way better mechs than your enemy also allows you to put your focus elsewhere and thus be more in tune with how you're positioned, your macro, your gameplans and even your comms

[supple chasm]

T3 to t2 then t2 to t1 then t1 to best in the game

[signal anchor]

It's why hitscan heavy players usually aren't shotcallers either

more brain power going towards raw aim, less towards comming

[queen skiff]

they r tho

support players

:D

flowr is like c3

[haughty sorrel]

me when i was watching reoli and comparing gameplay "ok here i would do a similar move, oh he hit every headshot, oh then it force suzu / cds and or get a kill" here was the diff, ofc theres more than that

[queen skiff]

also thats not even what i was saying lolololol i just said macro matters more

[signal anchor]

I just don't agree at all especially in ranked environments

[queen skiff]

well thats bc ur pisslow

[signal anchor]

in scrims macros matter more and you can feel it in gameplay

[median pecan]

Ouch

[signal anchor]

but still is irrelevant to the actual result of the match

[queen skiff]

okay try insta force early

on tracer

every fight

with aimbotg

see how ur value ios

is

[signal anchor]

dude it's not 0 - 100%

[toxic fjord]

triple blink oneclip 🤑

[signal anchor]

I never said u need 0 gamesense but people in here pretend gamesense is this holy grail to get champ 1

[queen skiff]

its still the same bro like as i said macro and angles genuinely

matters

more

than iam

[signal anchor]

which is ironic for a mechanics based discord

[queen skiff]

ur aim can be pretty avg

and if ur playing the angle at correct time

ur like

gm3?

with like masters aim

the difference there is not mechanical

masters players arent masters bc they shoot worse than a gm5 its bc theyre sat main trolling

every ult

lol

[signal anchor]

I think u overrate "average aim" a tooon bro

[supple chasm]

Muffin27 theory

[toxic fjord]

i feel like its a lot more nuanced and a large number of people in here specifically overlook it

[signal anchor]

if u smurf in diamond u will face 0 players that can outaim you unless they're smurfing themselves

[queen skiff]

LOLOLOL

ye[p

obviously

yes

high rank players have better mechs

[toxic fjord]

idk man .

[dark dock]

define avg

[toxic fjord]

those diamond widow hs ffa players

are demons

[signal anchor]

well then why pretend as if it's irrelevant lol

[queen skiff]

i play on my gfs setup

w sanrio peripherals

[median pecan]

The problem with ur argument @signal anchor is that ur overstating mechanics to be vastly more important. No one is saying mechanics dont matter its just that macro matters for everything when it comes to how the game is played. Ur acting like nothing matters but aim

[queen skiff]

and still smurf gm

w ass aim

[signal anchor]

No I don't but ppl in here act that aim never matters and it annoys me

[dark dock]

if you could choose want thing to be good at

it will always be mechanics

[queen skiff]

yeah bc its easier to improve macro

[signal anchor]

the amount of times I've seen kovaak nerds excuse their shitty ingame gameplay with "oh it's just because of gamesense"

[queen skiff]

for most ppl

[signal anchor]

u have no idea

[queen skiff]

..

[supple chasm]

Mechanics is something that will come with playing more

[dark dock]

exactly

[queen skiff]

yep

[signal anchor]

all cuz they dont want to accept their aim is mediocre

[supple chasm]

And understanding how to play the game more

[signal anchor]

outside of kovaaks

[toxic fjord]

macro takes brainpower

[supple chasm]

Let’s you abuse your level of mechanics

[toxic fjord]

too much for most

[signal anchor]

It's also just way way way easier to focus on other aspects of your gameplay when aim isn't the limiting factor

[queen skiff]

the thing is

is like

if u play the game

[signal anchor]

everyone who has smurfed has noticed that they can almost play perfectly in smurf lobbies

[queen skiff]

and improve the rest

the mechanics

will improve

[signal anchor]

while when ur against comparable opponents u start to make a lot more mistakes

[queen skiff]

no u dont ur just

not punished

for anytthing

in masters i can do w.e and no one shoots back

not bc im playing well and shooting harder

they just have 0 coordination

😔

[supple chasm]

Can do it in champ

[median pecan]

I mean yeah cause its flashier than macro. Like how do u even improve macro it comes from experience really. Like no ones gonna watch a montage of u having perfect positioning and engagement timing. 😭

[supple chasm]

Unironically

[queen skiff]

well

now

yeah

LOL

hellla burgers.