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crisp fossil
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yeah

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maybe im missing out

alpine trail
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@wintry viper GIVE ME LIKE A COUPLE SECONDS I AM ON KOVAAKS WE CAN PLAY SOMEWHERE SOON!

grizzled willow
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yerd id rather get my balls stomped than play more than an hour of pubs

alpine trail
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OKI!!!

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WE GOT THIS!

grizzled willow
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wow arenas is free af

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you only need like 200-250ish games played with a 60-70% win to maintain

viscid wraith
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i still dont have 20b and only a few 4ks 😐

wintry viper
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no 4k yet :(

viscid wraith
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but i literally never damage farm and no filled for a long time

wintry viper
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at most 3k because i grief teams with charge rifle

solar gyro
viscid wraith
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if i crack someone i ape

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plenty of 3ks i just wont farm a 4k unless it happens

wintry viper
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charge rifle makes me feel all warm and gushy inside

alpine trail
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@hidden star Halol!!! :D

boreal owl
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limitz aren't you arena pred

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on the sticks

grizzled willow
plush burrow
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nah im working on it

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one day I will be

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need that fxteacher coaching, on verge of buying hals 300$ apex guide

grizzled willow
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wait

plush burrow
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snipes igling tsm

grizzled willow
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why buy hals guide

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when you can buy tufis cheats

plush burrow
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watch this, stop what you are doing

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shit yeah

grizzled willow
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i remember tufi was in only preds and some guy rly posted LF1 w/ tufi 💀

plush burrow
grizzled willow
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i thought snip3down went to halo

plush burrow
grizzled willow
plush burrow
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Splash touching grass

grizzled willow
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oh

clear basin
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i killed a guy with wingman and flicked to his mate and hit every shot

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it was all worth it

mellow kestrel
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@bright elm

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Baited✅

zinc elm
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@alpine trail hallo!

alpine trail
keen ibex
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any crack head d4+ players in here? NA region

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looking to fill 3rd slot for ranked grinding team

wintry viper
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ayyy dot how was the end of stream

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i missed it

quartz perch
glossy crown
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schooled a ttv with that arc star

dreamy spade
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idk how well i can speak to how popular of the actual tournaments but from my passing glances it seems reasonably popular. the main thing is that the pro players on a individual streamer/content creator level are quite popular and serve as the main content figureheads for the game

grizzled willow
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trash ass

proven pulsar
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That's the most R- take I've ever read about a change like demotion

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Funny thing it comes from the Ranked Designer himself

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No fucking clue how he got that job

grizzled willow
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that guy deserves a pegging

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from his mom

little verge
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If it wasn't obvious enough by now, devs don't care about the playerbase from the first 5 seasons. You carried them long enough for casuals to invest and now they got their cash.

alpine trail
grizzled willow
alpine trail
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The game is geared away from us it feels

viscid wraith
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gotta love how the only even vaguely decent gamer of the lot of them

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is a map designer that was an ex halo pro

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and biebs being a console pred

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lol

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not a crossplay pred either just a console pred lul

grizzled willow
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on xbox too

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💀

little verge
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I mean, devs don't necessarily need to be pros themselves (doesn't hurt though!) The major thing is they need to listen to their core playerbase, which they clearly don't outside the most bare minimum to retain them.

viscid wraith
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especially the PR ones

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cause they pretend to have all this "experience" when in reality its a highly biased single spectrum viewpoint

little verge
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Yeah, that's what I meant by listen. They need to understand that, despite being devs, high tier players will know their game better than they do.

viscid wraith
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the whole making fun or memeing on pros on twitter still being a trend also needs to not be a thing, thats the most unprofessional shit ive fuckin seen from a PR team

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kinda hoped thaT would be done with DZK being gone

grizzled willow
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e

little verge
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I mean hell, look at yesterday: org pro basically insinuates he wants to fight at Twitchcon and Josh follows up by tweeting that there should be a boxing league.

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The dev culture there seems absolutely fucked lol

dreamy spade
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that dev take is

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pretty

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shit

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but not suprising

dreamy spade
little verge
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Like I assume it was completely unrelated, but even still you have to think "man, with what's going on this is going to be taken poorly."

dreamy spade
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and also why theres a reset each split

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forgot to mention that

fair trellis
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rp economy OMEGALUL wtf

forest nimbus
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genuinely my best 1v3 yet

dreamy spade
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there would be more value to RP again

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also you could just make it a feature for d4 and higher ranks

fair trellis
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ye thats some poor choice of words

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from the dev

dreamy spade
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like if u really dont want to effect the gold and plat shitters then just dont have that be a feature

fair trellis
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demote people above diamond and reflect that in matchmaking too

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plat doesnt need it kek

dreamy spade
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i remember in OW that if you dropped below your rank (bronze to plat) that you needed to play 3 games in that SR and not get your rank back to be demoted but in diamond and above if you dropped out you immediately became diamond again

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there was also preformance based SR gains and losses in regards to the game up until diamond to help with smurfs

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the point im trying to make is that you can have tier specific systems to improve the ranked experience

alpine trail
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Sounds like OW had a semi decent rank system?

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Never played it

sharp nova
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ye ow's one is fine

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tho i wish it wasnt individual perf based

dreamy spade
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the ranked system in OW is unironically fantastic. the actual system it uses is quite accurate and good at placing people(even if it does take a little to long to fall and you can camp a rank for a while if you dont play much then your placements per season and tends to boost new players). problem is the games in such a state that the ranked experience is some of the worst ive ever had

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maybe fantastic might be a bit much but in comparison to other rank systems ive played and heard about its honestly quite good

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the biggest issue with it is probably the fact that the games system is very specifically made to show where u are on a bell curve and is not helpful in any regards to learning the game better. so makes a lot of boosted egos even at relatively low ranks

lapis moat
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i agree as dogshit as ow became the ranking system was quite good

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its probably the best it can be cuz its such a team game

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would be hard to accurately measure the individual performance

dreamy spade
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the main issue is that no one gives a fuck at all anymore and all the soloQ heros are really good

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also 2 years of nothing new doesnt help either

little verge
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First impressions, they sound as good as my DT770s which is impressive considering it's compared to a full set of massive, over ear headphones.

lapis moat
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was looking to get these but they were just a lil bit too expensive

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ended up with timeless and they sound better than both of my dt770s and 560s

sharp nova
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xd at the femboy crin

little verge
lapis moat
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personally i regret buying my dt770s

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just not what i wanted

smoky talon
little verge
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Mostly excited to not have headaches and headstrap hair.

sharp nova
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dt770 is ok with some eq

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closed back market just sucks giga ass

lapis moat
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the bass is just borked on them and they are terrible for the summer

sharp nova
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yeh

little verge
sharp nova
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everything in basically every price range has flaws

lapis moat
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i think its either open backs or iems for me going forward

little verge
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Yeah, open backs for sure. No point losing out on that soundstage.

alpine trail
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Any of y’all got good general headphone recommendations

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Doesn’t have to be gaming headset

lapis moat
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soundstage isnt as important these days since audio in games are all dogshit now

lapis moat
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sennheiser 560s

alpine trail
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Also I see ultrakill

little verge
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I mean more for when you also listen to music.

alpine trail
sharp nova
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hd800

lapis moat
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if apex had pubg audio i would put on the ad900x again despite how uncomfortable they are

sharp nova
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used if ur poor

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new if ur not

alpine trail
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The one thing PUBG was good for

sharp nova
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ur ears too big for the pads?

lapis moat
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the headband sucks and my ears were a bit too big

little verge
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Pubg has fantastic positional audio, just has the issue of it stopping working too lol.

sharp nova
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u can fix the headband

lapis moat
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i did the mod and its still pretty annoying

sharp nova
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but yea circle earpads r dumb

alpine trail
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It’s better then Apex’s audio

little verge
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Everything is better than Apex audio

alpine trail
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A fucking tin can is

sharp nova
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ow audio works rly well

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issue is that there r just 100000 things happening

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so u hardly hear it

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in a fight at least

lapis moat
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valorant audio pisses me off more than apex

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idk how but it just does

sharp nova
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i wish there were proper sliders n stuff for ow audio

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i want all sfx lower other than ult voiceline stuff and footsteps

alpine trail
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The more I hear y’all talk about OW the more I come to the conclusion it’s a pretty well made game with an incompetent developer that screwed it over in the end

little verge
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"Our playerbase complains they can't hear anything, what should we do? Fix the audio engine? Reduce clutter?" "ADD MORE CLUTTER WITH POOR NORMALIZATION"

lapis moat
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its not like incompetency for ow

sharp nova
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a lot of ow stuff is done incredibly well

alpine trail
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I mean Blizzard

lapis moat
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its that they focused on bad players

alpine trail
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They like

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Yeah

lapis moat
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instead of good players

alpine trail
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Also lack of content

lapis moat
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for balancing

sharp nova
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meh

lapis moat
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apex is going down that path too but ow did it a lot harder

sharp nova
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the actual hero designs are just dogshit

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like mechanics

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not visually or whatever

simple stream
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fuk

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wrong thbung

alpine trail
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I guess? We don’t know what the future holds for Apex tho

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At least not in the long term

simple stream
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@crisp fossil is this u

sharp nova
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just the insane PRESS E to do XYZ powerful thing being pasted on everyone

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so it becomes a huge game of juggling abilities and dodging these huge powerful buttons

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like non aimer ppl will always cry about hitscans being super strong

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and they are

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but they have to be just because of how fucked the hero design is

crisp fossil
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@simple stream nope

little verge
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Yeah, OW went from hero shooter to a first person MOBA.

sharp nova
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nah

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even at the start it had a ton of this

little verge
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It had a lot, but aim still felt at least kind of impactful before Brig.

sharp nova
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its just that as more chars added more specific comps work better

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it got worse for sure

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but the roots were always there

lapis moat
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why isnt there people comparing glass skates to a skypad

little verge
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Yeah, Goats killed DPS altogether.

lapis moat
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none of the reviews i saw did it

sharp nova
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itll never really be the same

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unless the glass feet have HUGE contact area so there is effectively no pad sink

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or just a really firm pad

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but even then ptfe on glass is still going to be magnitudes faster

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realistically the glass feet will slow down quite a bit over time

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polished glass is just like that

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mirror polished*

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textured glass feet would actually be kind of interesting tho

lapis moat
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so just overhyped again?

sharp nova
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well

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yes and no

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overhyped in that its not some game changing invention

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but theyre not a scam either

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just another avenue for desired friction to be achieved

lapis moat
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staying on my gpx + skypad then

sharp nova
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i actually really wanna try them on a super slow cloth pad

lapis moat
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waiting for the xm1r wireless to drop and then ill choose between xm1r wireless/gpx/katana

sharp nova
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katana xd

lapis moat
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i tried a katana once and the shape was really comfortable

sharp nova
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i hate io1.1 shape

lapis moat
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i like it

sharp nova
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i think it only makes sense with pretty extended ring and pinkie

lapis moat
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ye i like playing on bigger shapes

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stuff like gretxa never felt right

sharp nova
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im viper 8khz stan rn

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the shape is dumb tho

lapis moat
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i hate that shape

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and all the fk-esque shapes

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none of them fill my palm well

sharp nova
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ye

little verge
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I'm still on my MZ1 because Viper mini is pretty much the only other mouse that works with my baby hands and grip.

simple light
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Guys can someone help me hit hipfire pk shots

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Any scenario that corresponds to it

clear basin
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can’t wait to have good aim in this game

smoky talon
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Same

sharp nova
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real

modest oyster
sharp nova
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wtf is that res

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or did u just render it small

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also LMFAO these guys just hard peeking a mastiff one after another

modest oyster
sharp nova
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bwuh

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i cant do low res man

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wingman just becomes an impossible task

modest oyster
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my fps is shit

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LOL

sharp nova
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whats ur system

glossy crown
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I have trouble hitting wingman shots from range. I always had the impression that you kind of just try and hope your enemies walk into them, especially from range.

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I’m only gold on the benchmarks but I feel with projectiles it doesn’t really do me much good here. I still need to work on tracking with r9 and wingman up close too with reactivity and smoothness for more precision while account for projectiles.

sharp nova
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at that range u might as well just shoot where theyre most likely to be

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close/midrange its a cool skill wep tho

glossy crown
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ok gotcha.

sharp nova
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prac different ranges with ur homie and ull get a good sense of how close u need to be

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its an absurdly strong weapon if u get good with it

modest oyster
sharp nova
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😬

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i played apex on launch with a 1050ti, a 10 year old server cpu, and shit ram

glossy crown
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yeah im always running it as my secondary and two stacks of heavy for bag space to use grenades

sharp nova
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literally like 40fps experience at 1080p

sharp nova
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no

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well i probs had shadowplay running at the time

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but idk this was like 4 yrs ago

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or whenever apex came out

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3?

smoky talon
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3

modest oyster
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ooooh

sharp nova
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i was on a 970 until this year basically

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or whenever s11 started

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now i have a 1080

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x5650 blck overclocked xd

modest oyster
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im still playing on 60 hz

sharp nova
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60hz sad

smoky talon
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Rosie the 60hz warrior fr

modest oyster
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hi cream !

sharp nova
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280hz feels good now

smoky talon
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Hey sparkyHeart

modest oyster
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yea apex isnt really my main game

sharp nova
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even tho apex runs like giga piss

modest oyster
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i'm having fun still learning it

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i want to play on 1080p tho

smoky talon
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I could probably play some apex sometime rosie

sharp nova
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1080p is crazy different

smoky talon
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Yeah 1080p is so much better

modest oyster
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with hopefully stable fps in both val and apex

sharp nova
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i still go back to 1600x900 sometimes

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but 1080p is so useful for wingman

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especially if ur not low fov/stretched

modest oyster
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i have a wingman clip on my res @sharp nova

smoky talon
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Show

sharp nova
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ye well

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thats close range

sharp nova
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its fine there

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esp with that bright texture behind em

modest oyster
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i cant see shit LMAO

glossy crown
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that shit is scuffffed

sharp nova
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its really problematic with badly lit areas

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and u get way worse clarity at range

modest oyster
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this one too

smoky talon
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Rosie pc upgrade when praydge

modest oyster
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its taking so long lol

smoky talon
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Yeah that sucks at least it's getting fixed though

near drift
glossy crown
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anytime i see someone stretch res i find a wide gif i think its funny personally

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always what it reminds me of

near drift
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you cant play laptop without stretched res

sharp nova
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u were probably on a x5650

near drift
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you wont see shit

sharp nova
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its literally the same result

near drift
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hell nah

sharp nova
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no

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its literally

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the same result

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but u lose horizontal fov disproportionately

modest oyster
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for someone who has like

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100 hours in aoex

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i think im doing well

sharp nova
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ye the game has a lot of shit to learn

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yeh

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i think it can "feel" better compared to lower fov

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because ppl will still feel faster moving

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cuz theyre shorter

modest oyster
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hmmm

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for me

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im still currently learning how to superglide

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ive been doing it more often and can use it in fights now

sharp nova
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i suck at timing for it

modest oyster
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i have 1k lifetime kills now

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and 700 of them are wraith

sharp nova
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just mash crouch and space and then i hope it hits

modest oyster
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also 4k badge on horizon !!

sharp nova
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nice

modest oyster
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yea

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i choked one on wraith

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havent gotten it ever since

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i had like

sharp nova
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all my 4ks were just weird npc lobbies

modest oyster
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3.9k smth

sharp nova
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ive had 3.5k games that were hard tho

modest oyster
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i have 2k on bh

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and lifeline i think

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my val cant play stable 60 fps

glossy crown
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I have trouble tracking the Wattson with R9 here as if I couldn’t see her but should have been a smooth track. Should I actively/focus consciously on tracking like it’s a strafing bot and let it come to me naturally or just keep playing the game and doing kovaaks full focus and let smoothness come to me naturally?

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i'm p sure im just overcomplicating it and just need to play the game like a lot of people say but watching VODS its like sometimes i cant see the person in front of me as if visual clutter in the moment but on review its pretty clear

latent vapor
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@glossy crown hipfire there could be easier also digi isn't the best

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Tracking wasn't that bad

sharp nova
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ye i would have hipfired

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or well

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if i was in ur situation and i had full power of hindsight

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in the moment u get caught up in habits

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just something to work on

latent vapor
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Missed 2 pretty easy crab shots too but yeah

glossy crown
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Heh yeah there’s more where that came from.

latent vapor
glossy crown
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I did hit my last shot on a flanking bloodhound for last team fight and won us the game, but I only hit a total of 3 shots, 1 body two headshots

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Need to be patient

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Yeah I’ll try hipfire with R9, I always see guys track up close like crazy with it zoomed in

sharp nova
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well

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if u get good at that skill

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its good to ads

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but hipfire means higher fov

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so if ur struggling with a faster strafe it artificially slows it

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also u strafe faster urself when hipfiring

latent vapor
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Digi reduces a lot of info

sharp nova
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and yea digi is balls

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sight housing is big and the reticle itself is so much worse than 1x

latent vapor
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Only good if you are bang or fast man

glossy crown
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Yeah I’ll stop running digi that shit is scuffed on a white background

latent vapor
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Get the pay to win r9 skin and the iron sight is just as good as anything

sharp nova
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yeh

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irons with any of the skins that have the 2 prongs

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then put ur 1x on a wingman or something and frag out

latent vapor
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who designed the car irons but they need a slap

glossy crown
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Yeah I went into practice range with friend and practiced r9 with default and swapped to his pay2win after thinking I could get good but it feels like half your screen is eaten by that awful circle

sharp nova
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its worth saving for imo

near drift
latent vapor
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Yea and just practice one clipping the dummy's with no mag from a few ranges helps

sharp nova
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only like 1200 materials or something

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there is no p2w car skin

glossy crown
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Is car fire rate same as r9 cuz that shit does 2 more damage per shot

latent vapor
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I try put anything I can find on the car bc the irons take up the whole screen

latent vapor
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R9 > CAR just bc r9 is a bit easier to control over 30-40m

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the duel ammo is super nice tho

sharp nova
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on paper car is better

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but ye recoil differences

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and dogshit irons

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i think its pretty much same tier as r9

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at least with a 1x

glossy crown
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I still have hard time justifying using those two SMGs even tho I want to get better with them but keep finding myself using 301 for more damage and jitter aim on Olympus because of range at end game

latent vapor
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I use it if I can't find a shotgun or my shotgun aim is off and just run 360 of one type

glossy crown
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And then I always run wing man since I have half my inventory full of light ammo and nades

latent vapor
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In a perfect world wing mastiff with bulk meds and nades is the best but if you miss its all over

glossy crown
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Not pk?

near drift
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you know when someones like >30m, how do you track their strafe with a cog wingman?

latent vapor
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Either or but pk dps is low but you can clutch w a pk

near drift
glossy crown
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Oh gotcha. Those 100-120 pumps tho

latent vapor
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@near drift legit 1v1 is the best way

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idk the map if you search apex 1v3 that's a good wingman map in vaks

glossy crown
latent vapor
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@glossy crown yeah just keep killing ppl for ammo refreshes lmao 😋

glossy crown
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I just never find myself practicing shotties enough I avoid them like the plague even though pumpy is crazy

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Need to get out of my comfort zone

latent vapor
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I used to avoid shotguns too bc I didn't understand them lol

glossy crown
viscid wraith
fair trellis
# sharp nova and yea digi is balls

imo best sight in the game, visual clutter doesnt matter with it really and since the actual "holo" sight isnt semi transparent mess like other stuff in the game its nice

sharp nova
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🤨

fair trellis
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hcog for example gets lost into all the particle effects sometimes

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completely disappears

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not fun with wingman

sharp nova
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never happens for me

fair trellis
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weird like the body glow effects when u hit ppl mess me up

clever sleet
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digi feels too fat and when u shoot it just flops around on wingman

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i only like it on smgs sometimes

sharp nova
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i like 0 0 255

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good on brighter maps and good contrast against red hit effects, bh scans, etc

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and muzzle flash

viscid wraith
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Personally I like digi, but idk about it being my overall fave but I def will run it over hcog depending on my legend

fair trellis
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few days ago i tested few with 0 and it changed nothing

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its just white

viscid wraith
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Like rn I'm randomly playing revenant for shits and gigs and I'm running deuteranopia digi whenever I can

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You kinda have to use deuteranopia tho if you're running digi much imo

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Cause using red digi in gas is aids

golden berryBOT
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Kiku#5384 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fair trellis
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woop, my cfg messed cuz i had an extra quote mark for whatever reason

sharp nova
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i dont think u can get transparent

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0 0 0 is just black

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255 255 255 is all colours (white)

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255 0 0 is red, etc

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rgb u kno

fair trellis
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ye i just messed up

simple light
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U stream?

ocean depot
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Is there someone on youtube or twitch who plays revenant? looking for someone to learn from and just the general playstyle on how he should be played

alpine trail
alpine trail
ocean depot
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damn

alpine trail
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Rev is honestly kinda useless now

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The fact that death totem has a giant ass indicator makes it near useless since it attracts third parties

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Plus his abilities and movement are some ass

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Like I don’t even like playing rev for the meme I hate his movement

ocean depot
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I feel as i've played more and more im starting to realize his game is more poke based before you run in, so i find itt hard to know when to ult and run in

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this*

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Also, my only real issue is how wide he is but i guess thats the price for his ult

simple light
ocean depot
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I realize he might not be the best but it sucks theres no one to watch who currently plays him haha

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oh yes i heard of him but

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thats not really current is it? also hes console

simple light
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Ye

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U want to play revenant so bad?

alpine trail
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The best pathfinder and mirage are also console

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Ngl chief

ocean depot
alpine trail
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Revenant is useless in terms of team util

simple light
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Visual clutter and big fridge

alpine trail
#

Play literally anyone else

ocean depot
#

its more like hes the character that kind of interested me with his ult that let you push twice but im willing to learn anyone

#

i am relateively new

alpine trail
ocean depot
#

im starting to realize 2 pushes isnt really all that since its coming down to the poke game

simple light
#

Play octane, noneed to worry abt anything 😂

alpine trail
#

So you’re putting a giant “fucking wipe me” sign

simple light
#

Nothing can stop u

alpine trail
#

Play octane if you like movement

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But work on core movement

simple light
#

Path and valk also good,

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Valk is broken tbh

alpine trail
#

Legit play anyone but revenant

simple light
#

Go see hollow play valk

alpine trail
#

That character is dogshit

ocean depot
#

Oh no im more of a ADAD kind of guy, i usually just stick to the fundamental left right left right hip fire or ADS depending on if they are hard to hit or not, i havent played anyone like wraith or octane that has a movement ability

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That might be the wrong way to play tho

alpine trail
#

A what

ocean depot
#

you know, you get in a gunfight

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you both move left and right

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duck and stuff

alpine trail
#

I don’t think of it that way?

simple light
#

He strafes that's it

alpine trail
#

I literally just strafe lmao

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Not that deep

ocean depot
#

yeah that lol

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its not really that im too focused on tho, its more the steps to pushing a squad that kind of tie me up

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from what ive seen so far it seems kind of like

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you guys poke at each other mid range weapons, then if you get a crack...

#

then what? you run in, but they healed by the time you close so now its kind of even anyway

simple light
#

Nadespan 🙂

ocean depot
#

or they could peek as you run in and now YOU are cracked

simple light
#

Spam

ocean depot
#

yes ive been bringing a couple grenades, they definitely help, but in general it almost always boils down to

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we see another squad

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we shoot at the squad from mid range

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neither of us wnat to commit because 1 squad gets cracked

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the other squad pushes, they get shot trying to close distance

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they back off

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rinse and repeat until third party

simple light
#

U shd have 2/3 of ur screen in cover

solid night
#

helo, do you know any scenarios that focus hitting strafing targets with a single-fire weapon? like the wingman

ocean depot
#

I did manwing, but

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thats kind of longer strafes

simple light
#

Pistol strafe gallery

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Ig

ocean depot
#

oh cool i can try that too

simple light
#

I think both are same

ocean depot
#

its an overwatch scenario but its the same premise and the targets move left and right really fast

simple light
#

Ur rank in apex?@ocean depot

ocean depot
#

i havent touched ranked in apex ever haha

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im pretty new

solid night
#

noice

simple light
#

From valorant?

ocean depot
#

I very recently just hit GM in overwatch about a week ago

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so now im branching out, apex is very difficult

simple light
#

Oh

simple light
ocean depot
#

the flow of the game, and everyone in general is just very skilled

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yes its technically the highest rank

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but you can go higher, i simply reached the baseline of the highest rank

simple light
ocean depot
#

On apex?

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Im NA

simple light
#

U shd try grinding rank, u might learn what u need there

ocean depot
#

You think so?

simple light
#

Ye

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Since u say u r new

ocean depot
#

Im not sure how much bronze rank would differ from my normal trios tho haha

viscid wraith
#

As meaningless as masters is, I've generally improved a fair bit grinding ranked

ocean depot
#

I can try ranked

simple light
ocean depot
#

how do you push squads so fast?

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or before u get third partied?

viscid wraith
ocean depot
#

or you dont and just shoot at them and move on?

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oh cool just like OW lol

simple light
viscid wraith
#

But it's next to meaningless lately. It's not hard to hit

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If you're masters you just play the game too much

simple light
#

-48 -48

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Singapore server 🙂

viscid wraith
#

Makes me feel like a shitter that I didn't get master's when it "meant" anything but oh well

ocean depot
#

Is mobility that required to push a squad?

simple light
#

Yes

ocean depot
#

Ive been trying to do it the fundamental way and just try and

simple light
#

Depends on ur position

ocean depot
#

duck and weave my way in with cover and movement but it doesnt seem

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possible berytime

viscid wraith
#

Not really

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It's highly based on the individual circumstance

ocean depot
#

Let me give you a scenario

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Its an open field

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You and another squad are both in a building on even ground

simple light
#

Then u dont take the fight

ocean depot
#

You poke at eac

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See thats what i mean

viscid wraith
#

You don't push an open field that fight isn't being taken in the first place end scenario lol

ocean depot
#

Oh ok

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But if we WERE shooting at each other

simple light
#

Ok

ocean depot
#

We're just wasting each others resources?

simple light
#

Yes

ocean depot
#

We should just leave?

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ok

viscid wraith
#

Then you would just crack two of them and wait for dumbfuck console players to try to repeek you and kill them

ocean depot
#

But how WOULD you push them? if you had to?

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Im in this situation a lot

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thats my biggest problem

simple light
viscid wraith
#

People in this game are fucking stupid if you 170 them they think they're gonna surprise and one clip you by repeeking

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Kill them

ocean depot
#

Like run up, bubble, pull out a hipfire gun and go for the duel?

alpine trail
#

I’m gonna hard vouch for spiy

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Dude is literally teaching me how to aim better

#

Listen to him

simple light
#

When in bub use single fire weapon, pk, wingman

alpine trail
#

What he’s saying is very very fucking useful

viscid wraith
simple light
ocean depot
#

we are in the buildings across from each other open ground

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i crack 2 with a wingman

ocean depot
#

do you mean, wait for them to repeek right there?

viscid wraith
#

Best case scenario for a push is two cracks or one knock

ocean depot
#

or run in the open ground and push

viscid wraith
#

And yes

alpine trail
ocean depot
#

and have my gun out, in case they repeek?>

viscid wraith
#

Holster sprint slidejump unholster ads repeat

ocean depot
#

You told me this yesterday i think, i tried it in a real match is kind of went like this

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I crack someone mid range in another building, i holster my gun i start running

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One of his teammates peeks as im running towards the building in open ground

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I slide, jump and switch to my gun, ADS and shoot him

viscid wraith
#

Good

ocean depot
#

But im in open ground and i just lost my shield and so did he but

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now im about to die

viscid wraith
#

Then you back off

ocean depot
#

oh so i run?

viscid wraith
#

And you've cracked two

#

So theoretically your team kills them here

ocean depot
#

Its kind of shitty because im in open ground in a lot of these situations

#

oh ok i see

#

the numbers game

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and push to force them to peek you

alpine trail
#

Cracked =armor break

ocean depot
#

that makes sense

alpine trail
#

Aka the sound it makes

ocean depot
#

Yes

alpine trail
#

I’m just checking lmao

#

You’re new after all

simple light
#

@alpine trail ur rank?

hoary hamlet
#

i see now it all makes sense @alpine trail

ocean depot
#

But then theres the other situation

alpine trail
#

Diamond 4 was highest

ocean depot
#

where i run towards the building

#

His teammate peeks, i do the same thing, we trade

alpine trail
#

I’m shooting for masters sometime

simple light
ocean depot
#

but i lose the trade

alpine trail
#

I also run with preds and masters players a lot

#

And I generally keep up with movement

simple light
#

Server?

alpine trail
#

why does it matter to you lol

#

Also na west

viscid wraith
simple light
#

It certainly does

alpine trail
#

You tell me your highest rank

#

And server

ocean depot
#

its usually worth it to try right

alpine trail
#

Cmon then

simple light
#

Diamond 2 🥲

viscid wraith
ocean depot
#

Oh ok

viscid wraith
#

In soloq your life is the most important asset depends on the environment

simple light
#

Singapore server

ocean depot
#

Also what about if i crack someone and we are BOTH around the building

alpine trail
#

I see

ocean depot
#

he runs behind a door

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shuts it, and starts healing

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If i kick the door twice

#

he'll open the door on the second kick

alpine trail
#

My advice

ocean depot
#

and just instantly kill me

viscid wraith
#

Personal decision making

alpine trail
#

If you have maxes

ocean depot
#

Oh

alpine trail
#

Nades

ocean depot
#

Is that the only way?

alpine trail
#

I mean

#

You can mix it up

ocean depot
#

There has to be another way to open the door right

alpine trail
#

Bait him with one kick

#

Or nade it

#

Or brute force it

#

But

#

Up to you

ocean depot
#

So lets say i dont have grenades, cause a lot of the time thats the situation

lapis moat
#

have a teammate push from the other doors ?

ocean depot
#

I kick the door once

alpine trail
ocean depot
#

How would i fake it?

viscid wraith
# ocean depot Oh

For door breaking, either kick one and interact with it to try to bait him to opening it your direction, use nades, some legends abilities, or coordinate with team

alpine trail
#

Also magnificent ultrakill pfp

simple light
ocean depot
#

Walk up, stop, then walk back and pull out my gun?

lapis moat
#

in all of these hypotheticals theres never a mention of the other 2 poeple on ur team

alpine trail
#

Based ultrakill

alpine trail
ocean depot
viscid wraith
ocean depot
#

but in solo queue i cant always rely on that to happen

alpine trail
lapis moat
#

Yea thats why u dont soloq

alpine trail
#

If not

#

Yeah

simple light
#

😂

alpine trail
#

Also having decent solo decision making is crucial

ocean depot
#

Is there a trick to baiting the door open?

#

So i kick it once

#

Walk up, stop, pull out my gun and back up?

alpine trail
#

There’s no guaranteed trick

#

Merely ways to interact with it

viscid wraith
alpine trail
#

Such as some of the ones I listed above

viscid wraith
#

Poke poke get advantage seize advantage dive advantage

simple light
ocean depot
#

Yes most likely

#

I should probably start watching apex streamers and just see what they do

alpine trail
#

streamers aren’t everything

viscid wraith
#

Interact twice, they interact once in panic and open it your way

ocean depot
#

thats really smart

alpine trail
#

please also form your own playstyle and don’t entirely copy shit like aceu

#

Ty

ocean depot
#

i sometimes get tricked into doing that as well

#

They oppen the door twice and i press e to try and close it

#

and they walk in, thats a good idea

alpine trail
#

Honestly

#

A lot of this comes with time

#

And seeing clips and getting ideas

viscid wraith
#

Yep

alpine trail
#

Good that you’re asking now tho but

#

Don’t overthink it

#

Just think of doing something smart to make the enemy feel like a dipshit then dunk on them if your aim can do that

#

Like a door bait

viscid wraith
#

Add tools to the tool belt and learn to use the tools when you think to pull them out

ocean depot
#

True, just thought i';d ask about some fundamentals for pushing and stuff because i like having these things cleanly laid out, but yea i hould probably just jump into the game

#

write down more notes

alpine trail
#

Also videos from Noko are great

#

Coach Nihil

#

I think that’s his name for the coach

#

Things like that and seeing how pro players treat some situations

#

Keyword is some

#

Not all

ocean depot
#

i'll check him out

alpine trail
#

Find stuff you can add to your toolkit

#

Check them both out

#

Also dazs

viscid wraith
#

My playstyle is heavily influenced by mande vorez and my tac fps background , you'll find your flow as you play more and more

alpine trail
#

And hollow

#

My background is

#

Smoking crack and letting Gurren Lagann get me out of depression

#

That’s why I play pathfinder

viscid wraith
#

A lot of apex is literally just play

alpine trail
#

Yeah

viscid wraith
#

With some minor watching for minor mechanics

alpine trail
#

OH also watch movement guides

#

Knowing some movement tricks will save your ass and make you feel faster and better at the game

viscid wraith
#

Watching comp is next to useless beyond entertainment since respawn refuses to let ranked be a gateway to pro play like every other fucking game

tepid salmon
#

just learn infinite wallbounce pepeLaff

viscid wraith
#

So just play

ocean depot
#

Hmm

#

Also, theres really NO current revenant player to watc?

ocean depot
#

thats a shame, i really like his tools lol

#

Oh ok

#

Cool i'll check that out too

alpine trail
#

I’ll be real with you

viscid wraith
#

Also doryuu is maining revenant rn to mimic guapee

alpine trail
#

Get your ass off revenant if you wanna be a productive member of society

ocean depot
#

😭

alpine trail
#

Wouldn’t reccomend him honestly LMAO

viscid wraith
#

Nothing wrong with rev in his current state imo

alpine trail
#

I guess but

ocean depot
#

Is it hits hitbox?

alpine trail
#

He feels icky to me

ocean depot
#

I did notice

#

hes VERY wide

#

for a non big

viscid wraith
#

I've been playing a lot of rev for shits and gigs

alpine trail
#

Yeah me too

viscid wraith
#

Yes he's huge

alpine trail
#

He’s a fridge

ocean depot
#

I notice a lot of the time

alpine trail
#

Super easy to track

ocean depot
#

I get BEAMED in the adad duel

#

yeah lol

alpine trail
#

Also don’t crouch spam

#

That shit is useless

ocean depot
#

But im willing to put up with it if his tools are cool

viscid wraith
#

Maining Pathfinder taught me not to take those lol

ocean depot
#

Yes i tested his crouch spam

#

my friend can track me easier when i do it so i dont do it anymore lol

alpine trail
ocean depot
#

I thought it'd be good for the accuracy but naybe not

alpine trail
#

It just makes it so you can get headshot easier

viscid wraith
#

Full crouch strafing on people can completely fuck a mnk player but you have to find one first lol

simple light
#

Pathfinder is also a big fridge, but with movement

ocean depot
#

Keep forgetting this game is like half console

viscid wraith
#

As rev*

tepid salmon
#

are slides faster with rev?

ocean depot
#

I'll have to change my movement for that

alpine trail
#

If anything sliding out of a strafe is a mixup

viscid wraith
ocean depot
charred plank
#

Spiteful how you can be online 24 hours I sleep and wake up still online 😅

alpine trail
#

I mean I do that sometimes

tepid salmon
#

hmm alright

alpine trail
#

SPLASH my beloved

alpine trail
ocean depot
#

@viscid wraith also THANKS i just searched up gupaee

viscid wraith
#

I'm at work rn Im an on-site tonight so lots of downtime

alpine trail
#

Including a frame perfect tech with no in game application or advantage except to look cool

ocean depot
#

super as hell niche youtuber but thats exactly what im looking for

alpine trail
#

If you want general movement

ocean depot
viscid wraith
ocean depot
#

also stuff like

#

when to ADS

tepid salmon
ocean depot
#

and when to hipfire, im kind of alright with hipfire but i dont know when to ADS

alpine trail
#

Faide, Mokeysniper, Treeree (tree is super advanced stuff tho)

viscid wraith
alpine trail
#

Those 3 are holy grail

viscid wraith
#

Very good vids

ocean depot
#

i feel like hip firing with a non SMG is basically killing yourself in a duel right?

viscid wraith
#

No

ocean depot
#

ADS8*

#

ADS

#

i meant

#

not hip fire

alpine trail
#

Still no

ocean depot
#

oh

viscid wraith
#

Hipfire always within 20m with most guns

#

Tbh

ocean depot
#

yes i mean within that range

#

20 M

alpine trail
#

R3 hipfire exists

ocean depot
#

but once i ADS im slower now right

alpine trail
#

That shit fucks

ocean depot
#

with non SMG and stuff

alpine trail
#

I mean like

#

Wingman strafe speed exists

#

Yeesh

viscid wraith
ocean depot
#

Yes stuff like that I ADS

#

but with like a rampage or something

alpine trail
tepid salmon
#

ahh basically rev infinite wallbounce?

ocean depot
#

I should just be hip firing?

alpine trail
#

Oh speaking of doryuu

#

I’ve ran with his SO before

#

Good guy

viscid wraith
viscid wraith
#

And ye sang seems chill af

alpine trail
#

Crying

#

Yeah sangs one of my mutuals on twitter

#

Man’s a G

keen yoke
#

No superglide into a redirect then a tap strafe and wall bouncing over your opponents head then elite jumping to do a 180 on them with a wingman inspect

#

1/10

keen yoke
#

smh git gud @viscid wraith

alpine trail
#

Btw Geng if you’re still here we’re being sarcastic

#

That was a good clip

viscid wraith
alpine trail
keen yoke
#

Sadge

alpine trail
#

I retract my statement

#

Roller player detected

viscid wraith
#

Lmao

alpine trail
keen yoke
#

Learned to elite jump on roller recently

alpine trail
#

I’m sniffing you

keen yoke
#

Now I just need world's edge

alpine trail
#

You smell like you get no bitches

#

Jk

keen yoke
#

just 1

#

You

alpine trail
#

Uh huh

viscid wraith
alpine trail
#

AYAYAYAYAYAYA

keen yoke
#

sloppy kisses

alpine trail
#

I got a boy im trynna do that with

viscid wraith
keen yoke
#

go get em tiger

alpine trail
#

Listen man my father left me

#

I need to get a man in the house

keen yoke
#

a daddy

alpine trail
#

I wish

#

This man’s a femboy

tepid salmon
#

Thats all I'd ever wish for

keen yoke
#

does he wear thigh highs

alpine trail
#

Ngl some of the daddy type men I’ve interacted with have honestly been manipulating as hell

#

So blech

alpine trail
viscid wraith
#

I need a shove against the wall relationship again covids been fuckin up my sociability lol

keen yoke
alpine trail
#

Dude literally plays fucking killjoy in Valorant

keen yoke
#

imagine being in a relationship

alpine trail
#

And cosplays as her

#

And gets confused for a girl

keen yoke
#

or playing valorant

alpine trail
#

Me to catboy

keen yoke
#

rude

viscid wraith
#

Can't wait till I do my bakura cosplay nekodance need longer hair tho still

alpine trail
#

I see

#

I wanna do a Simon cosplay when I get fit

#

Sometime

keen yoke
#

I'd do a Wraith cosplay

keen yoke
#

but too tall

alpine trail
#

Murder

keen yoke
#

and not feminine enough

alpine trail
#

Makeup

keen yoke
#

True

alpine trail
#

Pull a pyrocynical

#

Makeup

keen yoke
#

Ooo I just finished my Timespy benchmark

#

After overclocking my gpu

alpine trail
#

Dude can pull a femme look with no estrogen and literally just makeup

keen yoke
#

now my score is above average

alpine trail
#

It’s insane

alpine trail
#

YERRRR

keen yoke
#

that pizza delivery pic sent me down a rabbit hole

alpine trail
#

Tbf

viscid wraith
#

I'll prob do a crypto cosplay too ig but prob the Dante skin since I'm commiting to bleaching my hair

alpine trail
#

Yeah

#

Honestly

#

I’d wanna do a pathfinder cosplay

#

At some point in time

viscid wraith
alpine trail
#

He has lil awkward movements

viscid wraith
#

Gotta do the duo cosplay

alpine trail
#

He fits me

keen yoke
#

rev kinda cute

viscid wraith
#

Revfinder

alpine trail
#

WHY DOES REVENANT HAVE THE 1911

#

LMAO

viscid wraith
#

I have another one but idk if the higher ups in here will ignore it or not cause it's simulacra

alpine trail
#

Send to me

#

I wanna see

tepid salmon
#

👀

keen yoke
#

👀

alpine trail
#

Ok fuck

#

I wish that was me

tepid salmon
#

Wha

alpine trail
#

I have seen the image

#

It is not NSFW

#

Very suggestive tho

viscid wraith
#

Ive been muted for lewd.a.few times so imma behave lol

keen yoke
#

oh I didn't seee

#

SAD

viscid wraith
#

Idrc if I get banned from VT but it's entertainment lol

alpine trail
#

I can send it to you Tak

keen yoke
#

Do it

viscid wraith
#

I mean how nsfw is it if it's simulacra....philosophical debate type beat lmfao

#

Cause they aren't actually doing anything...

alpine trail
#

The themeing itself is really suggestive

#

Wouldn’t risk it

viscid wraith
#

Oh I'm not gonna I'm just pondering lol

keen yoke
#

Hey

#

Maybe

#

Path is just confronting revenant

#

For his crimes

alpine trail
#

Path wouldn’t harm a fly

keen yoke
#

true

alpine trail
#

Thank you apex legends community

#

I am now having a discussion about which of the female apex characters would be tops or bottoms in intercourse

#

🙏

keen yoke
#

lmao

viscid wraith
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keen yoke
#

oops

#

ignore that

#

noticed a new button in the context menu

#

was intrigued

viscid wraith
#

Tak ur in my server yet? Couldn't remember

#

There we go

#

Gotta have all the cool kids in the cool kids server

#

Lol

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sturdy sandal
#

hi.anyone here practice kovaak for apex?

#

what sensitivity u play in kovaak for apex for ads?

#

i mean u play with your hipfire or ads sens

viscid wraith
#

No reason to play ads, you learn ads sens in game

sturdy sandal
#

if i play 25cm in apex play 15 in kovaak?

dusky summit
#

i would not

#

20cm at lowest

#

s-sensrange

frozen narwhalBOT
#

Sensitivity Guidelines based on aiming style:
Tracking: 20-40 cm / 360°
Click-timing: 30-60 cm / 360°
Complete/KovaaK: 25-35 cm / 360°
Separate hip-fire sensitivities may allow flexibility with these ranges.

sturdy sandal
#

can u explain more?

#

i stuck in that

#

i played about 800 hours in kovaak but i think somthin wrong in this