apex

[leaden delta]

is it true that their bring new levels out

like past 500

[turbid ruin]

https://youtu.be/wqy9oNfKJm0

[ashen trench]

Finally.

[charred plank]

Now get pred@

[turbid condor]

I got master last split

was pretty ez

[viscid wraith]

ahh they changed gibby bubble because of maggie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4XtjNjg8Y

holy shit its huge

this way maggie doesnt 100% just force you out of th bubble

honestly not a bad change i can see the reasoning

unless its a bug in the test build which is also possible ig

[alpine trail]

lets go

they are making me even stronger

[mellow kestrel]

gaming

[livid cliff]

grind masters rn

[turbid condor]

💩

[livid cliff]

fr

[mellow kestrel]

s12 patch notes waiting lobby 💤

[lethal wraith]

yep, even though like most of the stuff was revealed already

[little verge]

I just want to see specifics, especially on the "aa nerf"

I mean, 0.6 is so egregious at this point it probably wouldn't do much even going to 0.4

[mellow kestrel]

yeah i wanna just see the full notes cuz a lot of shit being said before updates are usually misleading or just rumors

[viscid wraith]

^

[mellow kestrel]

some say there's a nerf to rotational AA coming, some say PC is getting .3 and console .4, some say only console is being put to .4 etc

[stray valley]

https://streamable.com/1fds6l

[young nacelle]

Is there a headshot multiplier in close tappy strafes?

[mellow kestrel]

nope

[young nacelle]

K

[plush burrow]

cfg or nah

[little verge]

Charge Rifle should be disabled for ranked.

Or if you pick it up you just automatically drop it and all attachments.

[plush burrow]

shot was nasty

[livid cliff]

being shot by 3 teams and some mf with a charge rifle cross map

[shut spruce]

@oblique pulsar why is this knockoff cody blabbering a bunch of corporate speak

smh

[oblique pulsar]

this guy needs a raise

[shut spruce]

lmao

[oblique pulsar]

great advertisements for kovaaks

[stray valley]

For superglide? Yeah

[plush burrow]

how consistent?

[stray valley]

I hit it every time

Litearlly

[plush burrow]

dam

how useful it going to be without tap strafe though, going to be way worse to use unfortunately

[stray valley]

Can still redirect

[mellow kestrel]

you can do it sideways and then redirect

seems like lurching will be limited to 90 degrees after jump

[pure isle]

What to do now since no heirloom shards hmm

[young nacelle]

Anyone up for a 1v1?

[little verge]

Two teams land northern side of climatizer, we land southern side alone.

Not only did that team not fucking fight each other AT ALL, they conga lined us one at a time.

[stray valley]

Most likely solution I've heard is that it's limited to 3 lurches

Which is ~90 degrees

[mellow kestrel]

i see

[keen yoke]

Like this

lmao

This was on King's Canyon

3 different teams

[livid cliff]

getting 3,2,1 by a team walking behind u

[keen yoke]

fun

They're just the better players obviously

[little verge]

My Valk ulted and we shot up over train station, no one appears on scan.

I land roof and in mid drop animation a Gibby is climbing up on the roof.

I love how so many passives in this game just decide to break.

[bright elm]

poopy

[ember wagon]

they a

added icons?

thats cool

[little verge]

I love playing NA, that is to say 99% people from Guatemala, Russia, and JP.

I go to peek a Gibby and his ankle isn't even fully exposed on my screen and he still mastiff's me while I'M the one trying to push.

[spring patrol]

wattson who's the day 1 squad

[oblique pulsar]

Enoch and idk. But I’m not playing on launch @spring patrol

[elfin sierra]

classic apex

[unborn grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925958865042948099/939700218188947556/Apex_Legends_Screenshot_2022.02.05_-_19.52.37.13.png

does this mean strike pack?

instead of stacking its just alot of 19s

[ember wagon]

maybe because single fire

[keen yoke]

It's because you got teamshot

[little verge]

Controller Caustic FB streamer plays controller, drops far for loot, and runs Rampage in pubs. Does half my damage but still flames lol.

[keen yoke]

lmao

[little verge]

These combinations are just too uncanny.

[spring patrol]

got you

i gotta get back on making my highlight reels bruh

[keen yoke]

1st round in arena pubs and console player pulls out a Rampage lul

[little verge]

I swear I have yet to fight a single person from NA in NA today. Guatemala, South Africa, tons from China and JP, one Russian.

But yeah, high ping isn't an advantage and neither is aim assist. That's why people ONLY use those two things in every match of Apex.

[viscid wraith]

i had pretty decent luck on NA today oddly enough

what rank are you rn @little verge ?

went like +7-800 from d4

[livid cliff]

2days to hit masters

[viscid wraith]

reg what you at rn

you close?

[little verge]

I'm like maybe 100RP off D3.

[livid cliff]

no d3 8100rp

[viscid wraith]

would you play rn

im d3 rn, have a 3rd who is either d3 or d2

[livid cliff]

yeah sure why nto

not

[viscid wraith]

bet ill hit him up

[livid cliff]

staying up all night anyway

[little verge]

Played no fill trios with a buddy and we casually dropped a 23 kill game. Even still, the last team was Caustic/Fuse/Mirage camping height indoors and never pushing lol.

Could tell they never fought because one guy was still blue evo.

[viscid wraith]

+70 after 2 hours, absolutely straight farming

fr tho diamond is such a joke rn lol just no recovering fast enough for 3p

[viscid wraith]

bruh

get 3ped 4 times just for the game to try to sell me the bp that i already own kekw

[little verge]

"Don't you guys have wallets?" - Respawn

[viscid wraith]

odd question but what do you guys think is the easiest way to recieve/send clips to people in full quality?

[little verge]

Probably some form of file storage like Google drive.

Any video hosting site will use some form of compression from what I know.

[viscid wraith]

ye is what i thought as well

at least apex isnt current state of cod lmfao https://twitter.com/Metaaphor/status/1490164764244418560

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AA after cold war makes me puke

[keen yoke]

Diamond lobbies are so free rn though

Although it's understandable if you're solo

[viscid wraith]

im not but people are playing full run it down

so easy to get kp but hard to stay alive cause its like playing zombies lmfao

would be easier if i was a little bitch and willing to play caustic gibby but fuck that noise

[keen yoke]

just headshot everyone ez

[little verge]

Just saw that too, absolutely disgusting. It's so bad too once he dies and you see the crosshair plummet lol

Man's legitimately fighting the AA and losing

[viscid wraith]

we have it good

https://tenor.com/view/coping-cope-cry-cry-about-it-cope-harder-gif-22752452

[worn sparrow]

everyone just shrekts with the TT while im just whiffing it all

[worn sparrow]

lmao

[viscid wraith]

yay i love apex arena pubs

three stack that has a preset push that covers the angles while also coordinating weapons to provide pressure at all times 👍

while my lifeline does less than 500 damage in 7 rounds

on a side note yeah this didnt kill but what in the illegal contraband is that hipfire at the end there https://streamable.com/sin0bb

[unborn grotto]

Rate kill 1-10

[gaunt rain]

is training static tasks even useful for apex?? its so boring

[viscid wraith]

entirely up to you

best way to utilize even single shot weapons is tracking anyway, but having the mouse control to make flick corrections if necessary is a useful skill

dynamic clicking however is very applicable

im personally someone who only does static once or twice a week, i also find it boring

i dont find im necessarily worse at wingman by not doing so

[gaunt rain]

yeah kinda what i figured! dynamic clicking is challenging and feels useful (pasu4lyfe)

[viscid wraith]

hehehe funni pasu meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575758199064625168/939165073652473908/20220204061539_1.jpg

gotta get those dynamic clicking reps in

apex mlsi headshot click is imo one of the best dynamic clicking scens for apex

i havent done it at all lately and my wingman has been complete utter dogshit ngl

[gaunt rain]

im gonna have to try it out for sure!

[unborn grotto]

i just use the fundementals gold routine

i play each scenario once except TS since my TS is doodoo

[ember wagon]

i dont get why i pub stomp diamond lobbies yet i lose to silvers in pubs

[viscid wraith]

stubby who tf is your pfp and wtf did he do to sora

[ember wagon]

lmao

its my friend

[viscid wraith]

nothing crazy but this felt cool when i did it lol https://streamable.com/e13mi7

funni little grapple wall run

[dull crest]

do you guys think no fill is a good way to improve or nah

sorry for the random question

[viscid wraith]

entirely depends on what youre trying to improve

i used to think no fill was the best way to improve flat out but with a huge influx of players and an unfortunately unfun and absurdly sweaty casual playerbase no fill isnt as chill as it used to be

there are a ton of situations you end up in that you just cant outplay unless youre fucking insane at the game

no fill duos used to be easier than no fill trios so that was an option for a while but now its just as if not more sweaty

imo, most players are best off just playing fill or ranked

and when one of those becomes boring

consider no fill

[dull crest]

yeah i feel you i mean i feel like i have a better time doing duos but idk idk if its gonna help me in the long run

[viscid wraith]

the skills you can learn no filling definitely push your mechanical limits as a player, but unfortunately like i said theres just so much bullshit you cant actually deal with now

people with nothing better to do than turtle up in a building cause oh no sweaty mc4k hit me once with a wingman

better rally the troops and man the battlements

with caustic gibby rampart 🤡

*i no fill a lot

[dull crest]

yeah i see that lol

i might grind it out tho

[viscid wraith]

mix in some fill

no filling exclusively will make you depressed

[dull crest]

i wanna get better mechanics at least

[viscid wraith]

in my experience lmao

[dull crest]

im alos trying to get my 4k damage badge no cap im so ass i gto like 500 hours no 4k

im very sad

[viscid wraith]

i have 1500 and only 2 4ks

dont sweat meaningless badges

like calling 4k20 pure luck is ignorant but to a certain extent getting those has a lot of rng mixed in with individual player skill

both my 4ks were because i played to get them

farmed teams etc.

[keen yoke]

I didn't get my first 4k for a loooooong time

[viscid wraith]

with how fast lobbies die now you dont often see many organic 4ks done purely by killing everyone

[keen yoke]

And it wasn't necessarily because of me not being mechanically skilled enough

[dull crest]

i wanna get it so bad tho casue i feel like ive been playing for a while

[keen yoke]

It was more of me not making smarter in game decisions that allowed me to stay alive long enough to have the opportunities to drop 4ks

[dull crest]

its frustrating getting so close yet its so far

[keen yoke]

One thing that'll help a lot is just prioritizing living over chasing a kill

But don't go into every match thinking "oh I need my 4k"

[viscid wraith]

yeah theyll kinda just happen some games within reason

[keen yoke]

Instead, when you're in a match and you're popping off you have to recognize when it's within reach and then play accordingly

[viscid wraith]

if you notice its 6-7 squads left and you have 3k damage then maybe mentally note "imma get my 4k rq"

yea what tak said

my brain too smol to consistently get high damage games

ill knock someone and go "this clip'd be fuckin sick" and just grapple head first into the other 2 lol

[keen yoke]

lmao

Same

[dull crest]

whenever im close to 4k i just get so nervous i just gotta stop looking at my damage

[viscid wraith]

like this whole clip im 100% not playing smart and just getting lucky lmao https://streamable.com/id64e2

but i lived for some fuckin reason

lol

casually doing a finisher for ammo

w key got stuck

[ember wagon]

You play cover pretty good

[keen yoke]

You're so confident with so little ammo lmao

[viscid wraith]

10k hours of tac fps baaaabbyyyyy

[dull crest]

bro you played that really well i could never

[viscid wraith]

lmao

tyty

[dull crest]

i play like im mentally unstable i learn all this movement tech and then i think im faide

[viscid wraith]

confidence or stupidity

[dull crest]

just start being a idiot

[alpine trail]

third teammate? nah we don't need that

[dull crest]

i gotta slow down when i play ive been learning that

[alpine trail]

anyways I'm quite new to the game anyone have any material I can use to expand my knowledge on the game

[ember wagon]

Guys don’t listen to people when they say push everything to improve

I tried doing it for 3k games just for me to play so much better when playing smart

[viscid wraith]

i mean

[dreamy spade]

if you are looking to improve under pressure or test mechanics and to some degree practice clutches. other then that not really

[viscid wraith]

push constantly with a brain

[dreamy spade]

well it depends on what u want to improve

[viscid wraith]

my autopilot luckily is hardstuck in tac fps combat

[dreamy spade]

like ur not gonna get any sort of macro gamesense pushing everything

[viscid wraith]

so i can just hold w

[viscid wraith]

ye

if its ranked the brain dead w key get stuck in d4 cause they dont learn the game

but pubs most aimer types dgaf about winning so its vroom vroom

i completely didnt see what you were actually replying to ignore my dumb ass lol

[ember wagon]

Bro but

It’s weird

[dreamy spade]

like W key everything is a really good way to get better at micro stuff like contextual positioning. managing aggression and flank timing but it wont do shit for you if ur trying to learn any semblence of macro(ie ring positioning, rotations, ring prediction, really anything related to positioning in regards to the larger context of the ring and especially in regards to other squads)

[ember wagon]

I’m solo q and got to d2 today but in pubs people told me to not try in pubs so I don’t but it makes me play bad to not tru

[viscid wraith]

always try

[dreamy spade]

i see so many d4 shitter just int a team with no regards to the fact that they int when they int into a shit spot and theres 3 other team around them

[ember wagon]

It’s such a bad habit I’ve learned to not try in pubs

[viscid wraith]

i dont care about pubs

but i try

ya know?

[ember wagon]

Got it

[viscid wraith]

i dont give af if i die or whatever

but i still go in with my brain on

[ember wagon]

It drains my mental losing to silvers in pubs and doing good in ranked it makes me feel like I’m getting lucky or some shit

[dreamy spade]

my brain goes fully off in pubs usually. i will literally just grapple into people and take the ego aim duel

[viscid wraith]

but its not like ranked where when i die i figure out what and why and how to not do it next time

[dreamy spade]

even tho that is the dumbshit move

[viscid wraith]

same thats not quite what i mean its more like people dont understand what "not trying" is

[ember wagon]

So your brain goes off but you still try right

[viscid wraith]

yes

its hard to explain sort of ig

[dreamy spade]

pubs is also hard to predict because sometimes u have silver players hiding in a corner for 10 minutes randomly shoot you

so i just cant think about it much

or getting 0.6ed from a lvl 30 lifeline

[viscid wraith]

cause the whole casual mentality of "ew hes doing move tech or insert this here what a fucking tryhard" no just play the fucking game normally

no one cares type beat just run around and shoot things

[dreamy spade]

i mean my casual fucking around is trying for 80% of the playerbase

[ember wagon]

If I tried in pubs Before I probably would have a 4K by now

[viscid wraith]

this

[viscid wraith]

like when they say not to try in pubs stubby

[dreamy spade]

people make jokes about apex skill gap decreasing but ive seen bronze lobbies

[viscid wraith]

theyre not talking about playing dumb on purpose

[dreamy spade]

and ive gone against actually good preds

the skill gap in apex is deceptively large

[ember wagon]

I guess it is dumb but most people say to kill yourself over and over and you will get better

[dreamy spade]

also i just dont play pubs. lowkey pubs more tilting then ranked. people play in the most cringe way and its infested with 0.6ers

[viscid wraith]

those "most people" are idiots

[dreamy spade]

i mean there not entirely wrong

but you also need to be able to reflect on that

[viscid wraith]

learning from your deaths makes you a better player

[ember wagon]

Yes

[dreamy spade]

like just playing and playing will get you knowhere if you dont have a good mindset and a goal to grow

[viscid wraith]

but just queueing and dieing to queue and die isnt doing anything except hammer in mechanics that ypou might not need hammered in

ok im done typing drt is saying exactly what im saying but faster

[ember wagon]

It’s hard to keep the same mindset when I feel no improvement so hopefully when I try now I will see atleast being able to not die to bots

[keen yoke]

Also

Take breaks

like a couple days

Maybe a week

[ember wagon]

Neverrr

[viscid wraith]

breaks are good

very very good

[keen yoke]

Helps your mind reset

[viscid wraith]

tho i think stubby just took one no?

[dull crest]

i feel like im not improving no cap

[dreamy spade]

extremely good idea

[dull crest]

like i dont feel like im progressing and im alwasy stuck

[ember wagon]

I took a one hour valorant break

[dreamy spade]

i mean some people dont need a week but like

[ember wagon]

That’s it

[viscid wraith]

stubby go like

[dreamy spade]

take a bit of time

[viscid wraith]

pass tf out for 2 days

[ember wagon]

I feel you luny

[dreamy spade]

also please for the love of god dont rage que

[viscid wraith]

get some bitches or something idfk

kekw

[ember wagon]

Is kovaaks ok

[viscid wraith]

sure

for

like an hour

play other games

dont play an fps tho

[ember wagon]

What’s the point of playing a non competitive game it’s the same as watching a movie

[viscid wraith]

curb the addiction for 2 days

so watch some movies?

[ember wagon]

Pointless

It’s like so pointless because it feels like wasted time

[viscid wraith]

why is it wasted

[ember wagon]

But in a competitive game your improving

Because you learn nothing idk

[viscid wraith]

and what are you learning while not improving

?

[ember wagon]

Your right

[viscid wraith]

refresh your brain to get back on track

a great example is bodybuilding

or weight training

[dreamy spade]

there is such a thing as over training

[viscid wraith]

^

[dreamy spade]

legit i learned that shit from DBZ and actually massive value life lesson

[viscid wraith]

if you lift heavy weights 7 days a week you never recover from the stress and just go backwards even

same can apply to almost everything else in life

crazy stuff

[ember wagon]

Spiyt would you know what I mean if I said I’m stuck in a find solution think it’s the answer play good for a bit then lose it the next day because idk if I wanna take a break if I’ll still be stuck in this same mental loop I been stuck in the past 5 months

[viscid wraith]

i kinda get what you mean stubby

[dreamy spade]

how much do you play

[viscid wraith]

ive said it before but you sound like i did a year ago

eat your lumps, take the 2 day break

[ember wagon]

120 hours a week

Ok I’ll take a 2 day break

[dreamy spade]

thats a joke right

[ember wagon]

No

[viscid wraith]

dear fuck stubby i thoughti was crazy when i did 180 in 2 weeks

[ember wagon]

I meant

120 every 2 weeks

My bad lmao

[dreamy spade]

sorry if this sounds a little harsh but

okay jesus

[viscid wraith]

lmafaooooo

thats like

[dreamy spade]

17 hours a day

[viscid wraith]

2hrs of sleep and nothing but apex every day

i think

lol

im american im bad at maff

[ember wagon]

I’m not a rust player damn

[dreamy spade]

120 hours a week is 17.14 hours a day

[ember wagon]

So how do I break the mental loop I keep think I find the magic key to unlock my potential and it does unlock it for a day

[dreamy spade]

60 a week is still a lot

[viscid wraith]

you break that

by realizing there is no magic key

[ember wagon]

Good idea

[viscid wraith]

and cognizantly recognizing what you want to work on

and doing it

[ember wagon]

But there is tho because why does it work

[viscid wraith]

watch videos

watch people play

write down a list of steps youre going to take

to fix the issue youre addressing

[viscid wraith]

it doesnt

[ember wagon]

No shot

[viscid wraith]

its called a placebo effect

[dreamy spade]

the better way to think about it is that your trying to fit together a puzzle. sure some piece might be bigger then others but no one single piece will suddenly complete the picture for you. you need to spend time looking for each piece and seeing if it fits

[viscid wraith]

^

[ember wagon]

Okay

I will take the break because I willl do anything to improve

[viscid wraith]

stubby you had that sora pfp do you have any kingdom hearts games?

go replay those

do something really casual

[ember wagon]

Those games are amazing

[viscid wraith]

yep yep

[ember wagon]

Wow I forgot about them

[viscid wraith]

fuckin love them

go play thru 2fm or something

[ember wagon]

I’ll play that and half life 1 probably

[viscid wraith]

ye ye

[ember wagon]

Half life 2* the better one

The game is so good bro

Also sonic adventure 2 is fire have you played

[viscid wraith]

i have the remix bundle for the kh pc ports on the epic games store and its dope af

[dreamy spade]

to me it sounds like you are focusing on the short term gain of improving and thats why u are stuck. its like how sometimes u gotta get shit kovaaks scores for a while because you need to unlearn a shitty habit you have. or taking a break from a sport because you pulled a muscle. sure your not improving at this exact moment but long term it will benefit you

[viscid wraith]

havent played that one no

[dreamy spade]

i wanna say half life 1 is better but then i remember xen exist and i just

[ember wagon]

I never played number one I was just joking I just remember how much I loved the 2nd one

[viscid wraith]

unfrtunately bundles not on sale anymore but ffs look at all thats in here lol

got it for like 30$ fuckin steal and a half

[ember wagon]

Damnnn

I didn’t like number 3 because there was no sub

[viscid wraith]

i havent played thru all of 3 yet

[ember wagon]

And it was not synced with the English audio

[viscid wraith]

i know the basic story and the gameplay hasnt been very inspiring so far lol

[ember wagon]

Yeah

The one with beauty and the beast if so goood

And the skateboard one omg

[dreamy spade]

half life 1 is like a masterclass of design

[ember wagon]

What does that mean

[dreamy spade]

its like a citizen kane for the immersive grounded storytelling fps games

[viscid wraith]

im doing a dont change equipment proud mode run of kh1fm rn lmao

getting my ass kicked cause im so bad at these games now

[ember wagon]

Dang

Sounds hard

[dreamy spade]

half life 1 also is insanely good at immersion. no cutscenes and so much story is told through the world and the gameplay and your interactions with the world

[leaden delta]

since when is the flatline so shit at hifire

hipfire

[viscid wraith]

since never

tap ads

[dreamy spade]

its shit in my hands

[leaden delta]

bruh i couldn't of been more dead on in my life, and it missed every shot

[ember wagon]

Try crouching a bit longer maybe

[leaden delta]

nah

im just never using the piece of shit again lmao

r99 is the only way to go

[ember wagon]

True

My man

Volt sucks

Right

[viscid wraith]

bruh look at the hipfire at the end here lmao https://streamable.com/sin0bb

[leaden delta]

nah volt is my second love

[viscid wraith]

flatline hip is disgusting

[ember wagon]

…

I’m just playin

[leaden delta]

mine would never

[ember wagon]

That’s because ads first

So it’s accurate after

[viscid wraith]

tapping ads during hipfire flat is basically cheating

so dumb

[leaden delta]

yeah lmao

[dreamy spade]

tbf most crouched hipfire in this game is fucking stupidly accurate. also crypto player, very cringe

[ember wagon]

It’s arenas

He has to fit in with all the other level 100s

Bro wtf

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdkuySeL/ console players think this is good

[worn sparrow]

lol wtf

[viscid wraith]

hey! we have feelings 😠 ! all 3 of us!

ngl mini rework looks pog tho, getting valk from r6s vibes

[versed vapor]

anyone wanna 1v1?

[leaden delta]

anyone got more tips on how to be more reactive on apex

for tracking up close

[plush burrow]

Calling one of the most op guns in the game btw

Hit the ads every like 15 bullets, the hipfire will be crazy accurate

[deep linden]

just be smooth in reacting

actually

just be smooth overall

[leaden delta]

i just keep over reacting

like my hand just keeps going side to side

and not being able to lock on

[deep linden]

you don't really have to instantly change

just need to be smooth

[leaden delta]

how tho

[leaden delta]

i get Parkinson's when i aim

[plush burrow]

Either train your reacting or predict strafes better

You can do either

[leaden delta]

what maps on kovaaks would primarily help me

[plush burrow]

Control fast strafes easy invincible

Then close fast strafes invincible thin

I think it is

[leaden delta]

should i use the same sens

as my apex one

andd same fov

[deep linden]

no

FOV should be 103 Overwatch

sens is just whatever's higher or lower than your ingame since you're basically practicing mouse control, not ingame

[alpine trail]

don’t watch much twitch…any recs on ranked players that are extremely aggro

kp > rp😈

[wintry cloak]

any recs on cracked gibby players want to learn how to play gibby when olympus comes back

[alpine trail]

funfps is the only gibby i ever watched

but im sure there’s better ones

[plush burrow]

Lou

[inland hearth]

An advice
For training better aim in Apex With Kovaak, expecially in close fight, u advice to use normal settings or adapts them With Sensitivity covert programs?

[wintry cloak]

thanks

[inland hearth]

Imho reps is the best

[alpine trail]

reactive tracking scenarios on a 15-25% higher cm/360 sens

my fav atm is Fast Tappy Strafes😁

[wintry cloak]

and is there anything in specific i can do to practice my movement

[alpine trail]

Close Tappy Strafes? one of those

[alpine trail]

videos -> firing range -> do in game until gud

[wintry cloak]

aight thanks

[alpine trail]

fair, idk i thinks it’s helped me a bunch w overall mouse control

[lethal wraith]

https://twitter.com/lowkeydbjosh/status/1490008775045959680

Josh Medina (@lowkeydbjosh)

@iiTzTimmy @PlayApex You guys were a good testing feedback proof of concept 👀

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tapstrafe nerf we saw might not be the "final" state of it
if this message is anything to go by

[leaden delta]

what practices mouse control better, slow or fast

[worn sparrow]

i have the same issues

if i try to be smooth on a target that's long strafing and they decide to do short strafe, my smoothness/reactivity will go all over the place

i end up trailing and doing a lot of microflicks

[leaden delta]

yes, thats dead on to what i do

and i cant seem to fix it, not matter how much i try

[worn sparrow]

i feel your struggles

i have lots of trouble with clicking weapons too

[leaden delta]

likes does your wrist just move left to right constantly trying to lock on

[leaden delta]

wingman and shotguns can die for me

[worn sparrow]

yup, lots of jumpy/twitchy movements with microflicks

[leaden delta]

yeah so me and u are in the same boat then

once i fix that ill be cracked, tho im having doubts that ill fix it

[worn sparrow]

i believe man. i get discouraged and demoralized a lot of times but we're still here trying to figure it out so at least that's something

yeah i noticed we have similar issues on stuff. wingman, shotguns, snipers are prob my worst guns

people are cracked with TT up close / mid range and i would completely whiff a clip sometimes if i ADs

[leaden delta]

im trying to find the clip i have that shows what i do

ok this is my bad wingman aim, from looking at it, i think im just a flick maniac

keep in mind, this is his 2nd day playing, and he insisted on 1v1 me

[quasi stone]

Shoot me in the center of my foot. Break as many bones as you can. Pour liquid uranium all over me.

It’s not 40% actually guys. It’s 00.40%

Anything to take my mind off these people

Imagine if we woke up tomorrow and all controller players switched to mnk and reached their previous skill on controller but on mnk. What if this is all just some super long April fools joke and we act like we’re sleepy every time we go to bed, but we’re actually only sleeping a few seconds in reality. You wake up. Nobody is at a disadvantage. Nobody is at an advantage. All there is is an advantage in will to improve, gamesense and brains, and natural nerve development. Nobody could replicate shroud except someone with better muscle control than him. Apex would actually become a respected esport. I’m going to dream about this and it will come true tomorrow

[twilit flicker]

imagine people just stop crying about the other input and just enjoy the game

[wintry cypress]

https://youtu.be/KVi1ff6tkfo

Bruh this is gonna be insane

[lethal wraith]

they're actually keeping 6 shots?

even old mozam was crazy with hammerpoints

[leaden delta]

and now my wingman aim is kinda good, man im the most inconsistent player out lmao

[wintry cypress]

Seems like it

[lethal wraith]

gonna be busted, better than wingman close range

[simple narwhal]

u were shooting in the same spot over n over lol

[leaden delta]

Listen up bucko. Let me have my 5 seconds of happiness

[simple narwhal]

well

i liked ur aim in the other clip

[mellow kestrel]

Mozam can already compete with a wingman <50m lmao

Its like borderline meta in arenas already

Prepare for maggie + hammer mozam meta

[lethal wraith]

yeah kinda, but it still suffers at range, has bad ammo econ, long reload, low magsize

[mellow kestrel]

idk man it has insane range for a "shotgun" imo

[lethal wraith]

oh I meant compared to a wingman

[mellow kestrel]

and firerate with purple bolt makes it the shotgun with the fastest TTK iirc

ye

[wintry cypress]

too bad i never really get a fully upgraded mozamn

usually wing + grey mozam or r9 + wing

[rain sleet]

So...punch boosting is gone season 12

I'm sad

;(

[fair gale]

even sadder is only 90 degree tap strafes

[rain sleet]

I'm more sad about the punch boosting tbh

It was fun

[hexed fiber]

Celebrating 3 years on Apex by getting my first 20

[fair gale]

imagine ur building ur legs to be the strongest and fastest in the world, then the coach brings a bat and busts ur caps

cuz ur too fast

😔

[wintry cypress]

😳

wdym

[fair gale]

steel bat. smash. knee 🦍

too fast. 🦍

[wintry cypress]

[mellow kestrel]

Literally

[fair gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5XMNwlIo0

respawn to tapstrafe bro

[wintry cypress]

ah

[honest heron]

removing punchboosting also makes me sad, there was a lot of niche stuff you could do with it

[little verge]

Agreed, the skill gap of tap strafing was higher and more versatile, but for me punch boosting meant I could rotate faster to fight more.

[honest heron]

it almost entirely solved storm point's size issue

being able to get rid of fall stun was nice too

[little verge]

Seeing people use it for indoor fights was interesting too.

[honest heron]

yeah i used it on doors a lot

[foggy jasper]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SneakyBashfulManateeMau5-hfOi5SwD_rwdfzxy

if only i had the purple mag 😐

[twilit flicker]

why are some people saying superglide is getting removed

[honest heron]

its not

at least, absolutely nothing indicates it is

[dusky summit]

too inconsistent for them to care

[honest heron]

laughs in cfg

with the tap strafe nerf it'll be less useful though

[near drift]

how do i do this?

is there like some guide?

[honest heron]

but still very useful for rollouts in arenas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnjLCyG-3BM

[dusky summit]

cfg kinda sucks

feels illegal

[near drift]

it does

but it isnt

technically anyway

[dusky summit]

also im pretty sure you feel the 0.1 second where ur fps goes to shit

just for superglide

[honest heron]

you cannot

at all

[twilit flicker]

cringe

[honest heron]

ok

[wintry cypress]

lol

[near drift]

lol

[wintry cypress]

[honest heron]

i wouldn't use it if it wasn't tied to framerate

[near drift]

technically scrolling for tapstrafe is illegal too

[honest heron]

i don't really care for wasting time to learn a 7ms timing for a niche movement technique

[near drift]

ty

[wintry cypress]

i dont feel like setting up 3 cfgs ngl

ill just do it myself

[twilit flicker]

just learn the timing and dont be cringe

[honest heron]

why

who cares

[hoary hamlet]

https://github.com/Natram1zh/Apex-Autoexec-And-Tweaks-

[livid cliff]

doesnt matter if u use cfg or not tbh lol

[honest heron]

it really doesnt

[hoary hamlet]

people who play above 200fps need the cfg

[livid cliff]

like bro its just a piece of movement

[wintry cypress]

im just lazy so im not using one

[honest heron]

its not like you use it often enough for it to matter

[livid cliff]

if me using a cfg makes me cringe then so be it

[hoary hamlet]

cause trynna hit something on like 3ms reaction time is hard

[honest heron]

with the tap strafe nerf you'll be using it even less

[viscid wraith]

i superglide literally everywhere, no cfg consistent 144

[honest heron]

good for you man

[hoary hamlet]

spitty just comes at me in 1v1s

soupygildes

[viscid wraith]

it covers ground p quick and can be useful in combat altho if used wrng you just get fucked

[honest heron]

pretty fun to do on arenas

[wintry cypress]

imma just cap my fps to 165 when i get a new gpu

[honest heron]

i can get to places faster than most ppl expect

[viscid wraith]

https://streamable.com/n6rvc3

glides are fun

obviously not necessary i mean a lot of pros completely ignore this move tech

but you can still do redirect superglides you just cant do the arguably pretty bullshit spinny boi tap strafe glides

[honest heron]

pros play very differently to 99% of ppl anyway

180 glides were busted tbh

[viscid wraith]

ye

[wintry cypress]

just redirect glide

[viscid wraith]

^

[wintry cypress]

''ez''

not really

but whatever

[viscid wraith]

can still get backwards ones they just arent nearly as sharp

which is imo healthy for game

even tho i dont like the tap strafe nerf

however there IS A CHANCE they were testing out values https://twitter.com/lowkeydbjosh/status/1490008775045959680

Josh Medina (@lowkeydbjosh)

@iiTzTimmy @PlayApex You guys were a good testing feedback proof of concept 👀

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[honest heron]

just lmao

[wintry cypress]

i hope so

tap strafe nerf rn just looks like an air strafe

[viscid wraith]

we might might see more lurch added back

[twilit flicker]

https://streamable.com/ocdhvj

[viscid wraith]

i just can completely understand them wanting to remove shit like this

[honest heron]

lmfaooo

[viscid wraith]

Yes its not practical but from a developer standpoint it is r-word

[honest heron]

i always forget how completely scuffed it looks from someone else's perspective

[viscid wraith]

ye

[honest heron]

cos when i'm saucing up the schmovement it feels fine

when i see someone tap strafe in front of me my brain hurts

[twilit flicker]

superglides looks so weird in 3rd person

[viscid wraith]

my main use for glides is in combat tbh

and sharp turning corners

[honest heron]

i use them for escapes or getting to somewhere asap

[viscid wraith]

ye

the way i use them

wont be effected by a tap strafe nerf

cause i dont do lascur type clippy shit

i close distance or clear a big gap

[honest heron]

octane mains crying rn

[viscid wraith]

octane legit gonna feel so bad if the nerf isnt altered

per the tweet

[honest heron]

literally the only reason i played him was because tap strafing with him was so fun

now there's no point

[twilit flicker]

based controller player

[viscid wraith]

hopefully gliding isnt next on the chopping block

cause like

just wait for them to land

and fuckin blast them

[honest heron]

it doesnt add a huge advantage lol

[twilit flicker]

if it is im quitting again

[viscid wraith]

like sure its good in a strict linear 1v1 ig

https://streamable.com/b18c1z

*siometimes

[honest heron]

wraith q glides are pretty nuts tho

you go so far

[viscid wraith]

yeah but that imo is a feature

cause like

wraith q honestly doesnt do all that super much anymore besides let you run across warzones for free and dodge shit

[honest heron]

tap strafing made it pretty useful cos it was a lot harder to track

[viscid wraith]

buts glides like this tilting casuals i just dont get https://streamable.com/wlairq

just

like

be patient

dont try to track me in the air if youre bad lol

[honest heron]

pgti bronze moment

[viscid wraith]

lol

[honest heron]

fuck pgti man

its so hard

but tracking in apex feels way easier for some reason

[viscid wraith]

if they eventually remove all this shit tho

theres no other good games to play

so

fuck

lol

[ember wagon]

its wont be the bad

[viscid wraith]

ill just main pathfinder harder lol

https://streamable.com/e13mi7

[ember wagon]

theres still supergliding

[viscid wraith]

grapple wall run

[wintry cypress]

just play kovaaks at that point

[honest heron]

i mean there's titanfall i guess

but that doesnt hit the same

[viscid wraith]

northstar client still hella niche

lot of dead times

and vanilla titanfall is just ez

i love that game but it is not hard at its base values

[charred plank]

Still trying to understand what’s you are doing in this clip 😂

[honest heron]

trying and failing to grab the roof

[viscid wraith]

nah if i climb on the roof im dead af

valk is sitting there with shotty

[charred plank]

Agree ?

[honest heron]

mfw you hit the grapple 0.0001 degrees off target and you die

[charred plank]

C is really trash

[viscid wraith]

lol

[honest heron]

i havent played path in ages he's just hard

[viscid wraith]

i love pathy

[honest heron]

feels like the grapple breaks constantly

[viscid wraith]

hitting that sling grapple right there

perfectly

[ember wagon]

switch b and a @charred plank

[viscid wraith]

was satisfting as shit

[honest heron]

i'm just gonna continue being a blud main cos i like being mean

[ember wagon]

ice is better then no ice

[charred plank]

How … cup Coca Cola is not that good, it’s very watery

[honest heron]

plus he's got drippy af skins

[viscid wraith]

i unironically main crypto and pathy lol

all movement and no movement

kekw

[honest heron]

crypto finna be so elite next season

[viscid wraith]

frfr

im hyped

[ember wagon]

weird usually when i get cup soda i get extra syrup

[viscid wraith]

i like what they did to him

ill give them bonus points for not making him busted af

[ember wagon]

spiyt we will be fine because you can still spam your heirloom

[viscid wraith]

but DEFINITELY way way better

[honest heron]

they either need to increase the range you throw it or prevent him from getting hurt by his own EMP

[viscid wraith]

nah he needs to be effected

[ember wagon]

no bruh then you can self emp

[honest heron]

cos you can't throw it out rn without getting hit

[viscid wraith]

or too many cheese pushes are unlocked

i dont thikn it should effect teammates still

thats dumb

but crypto needs to have some risk when he just emps himself

[honest heron]

ults affecting teammates in general is stupid

[viscid wraith]

i play around it a lot anyway

https://streamable.com/ce59ug

[honest heron]

bang shit themselves lmao

[viscid wraith]

the sens slow is so annoying tho i potatoed hard cause of it

the movement and damge i get but sens slows are a fucking stupid mechanic

[honest heron]

being slowed by shit kinda sucks

[little verge]

Yeah, sens slow is always daft.

[alpine trail]

we're getting there bois

almost completed jade

[honest heron]

ash q is fine cos its literally designed for that

[viscid wraith]

final clip i gotta warm up for ranked shenanigans lol - satisfaction https://streamable.com/lnbhd9

[honest heron]

but when a gibby ult slows me to a crawl for no reason i get slightly annoyed

[viscid wraith]

pog zam

go crazy 👑

[ember wagon]

spiyt what rank are you rn

d3 right

[honest heron]

might go for diamond next season

[alpine trail]

the fundamental routine has really paid off

[ember wagon]

which fundamental helped you the most?

[livid cliff]

spiyt ya dig

[honest heron]

arenas mmr is so weird

[viscid wraith]

im almost d2 now

progress 👍

[charred plank]

yessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessiryessir

[viscid wraith]

might actually get masters before tuesday if i grind enough

[alpine trail]

currently doing 1 hour ish for diamond fundamental every night as I am not jade complete yet and 30 mins reactivity issue specific

[honest heron]

you do well for a few games and suddenly you have players several ranks above you in your games

[alpine trail]

once I get jade complete I will move to jade fundamentals 😄

[ember wagon]

im 200 points from d2 we should squad up no cap

[alpine trail]

the only issue is in my pursuit of becoming smoother I have lost some of my speed

but now I am really smooth

[honest heron]

i need to start learning arena meta

i've just been relying on aim

[viscid wraith]

if we need a 3rd ill hit you up

rn have someone + a roller carry

[wintry cypress]

that happened to me with my static lol

[charred plank]

🐊

[alpine trail]

yeah man

like my aim ingame is extremely smooth same as kovaaks

[ember wagon]

bet

[alpine trail]

but then when I try pick up speed naturally I lose smoothness

[ember wagon]

zam wait so do the fundamentals find the bad habit you're doing or something

[alpine trail]

I think I need to sacrifice a bit of one of the other on different scens you know?

so my problem was always reactivity

I always liked to predict more than react

[viscid wraith]

my speed is ass and im smooth as fuck

gored speed routine been helping me a ton

[ember wagon]

wait so

[viscid wraith]

just focusing on moving fast

[alpine trail]

do the fundamental, and if you want identify a weakness and use the issue specific playlist also

[ember wagon]

whats the difference of predicting and being accurate

[alpine trail]

in total I train for about 1.5 hours

[viscid wraith]

they arent even related

[ember wagon]

well because i hit more shots if i aim slightly infront of the direction of a moving target on clicking scenarious

[alpine trail]

well predicted is pre dicting its more before something occurs

[viscid wraith]

predicting is guessing where the target is gonna go, being accurate or reacting is mechanically following it dynamicallyt

[ember wagon]

idk if thatsw predictig or accuracy

[alpine trail]

reacting is as and when

[fair gale]

imagine cc in a shooter.

[viscid wraith]

my reactivity is asssssssss

[fair gale]

love ittt

[alpine trail]

same man but it's getting there

[viscid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/loop-infinite-gif-14889372

[fair gale]

and especially in "the most aim requiring shooter" bro

suddenly ur unable to do anything and give ego boost to the mfs that kill u 😭

[viscid wraith]

shshhhh you might wake the quake gremlins

[fair gale]

oih sht

[viscid wraith]

jk i love them

[fair gale]

gotta be more careful 😨

[viscid wraith]

theyre depressed

kekw

[fair gale]

depressed cuz theyre the only ones playing quake? 💀

[alpine trail]

I'm trying to get my jade on psalm ts now tho

[viscid wraith]

lolol

[alpine trail]

but man without speed its rough

[fair gale]

im trying to get my kovaaks not to stutter so i could do the vt benchmarks again

its been like 2-3 months since i last time did my benchmarks

[honest heron]

i havent done benchmarks in ages

[alpine trail]

try maybe installing to a different drive

if you can

[fair gale]

aight imma try that

[viscid wraith]

https://twitter.com/RazosTwitch/status/1490222100174585856

razos (@RazosTwitch)

every time you sprint on mnk you should have a 20% chance to trip and fall. i think this would help balance out the overpowered movement that mouse and keyboard has over controller in apex legends. we need to start bringing this input in line with controller and make apex fair 🙏

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imagine

[fair gale]

first gotta save my thousand diff playlists

[viscid wraith]

doing benchmarks

[alpine trail]

just incase it has something to do with your drive

[viscid wraith]

jkjk i respec the grind

i am just white name pleb

[fair gale]

we also need to give roller -20ms reactivity foresight into the future

and remove recoil from volt

to help the balance

also implement sens randomizer without an option to turn it off for mnk

[alpine trail]

yoooo

new recolours for existing legendaries next season

finally

only one was datamined so far

idgaf

I am glad they are finally releasing recolours

its been legit like 9 seasons

12 seasons and no good firing range changes btw

[lethal wraith]

not true, they added faster ammo refresh

imagine if they just added infinite ammo though

[alpine trail]

I said good updates

or changes even

that's not even good that should've been there since like the beginning

infinite ammo wouldn't be hard to do since its already in the new game mode so the code for it is in there already

that platform was for arena teaser no?

[lethal wraith]

ye

[mellow kestrel]

Arena meta is just generally being a degenerate atm

Nadespam + turbo devo/havoc abuse

Arena could be a decent mode if the devs actually fixed the broken shit

[alpine trail]

yeah true

the firing range is shit

considering how long the game has been out

[mellow kestrel]

When ppl buy rampage in round 1 etc its just aids

[alpine trail]

the only things they've changed really is ammo and audio in range

even audio is still scuffed

[lethal wraith]

no doors in firing range either 💀

[viscid wraith]

id rather warm up in overwatch kekw

[lethal wraith]

god forbid they let you practice anyting inside there

[viscid wraith]

cause workshop maps

[wintry cypress]

Had enough experience with that

And then u have lvl 15 teammates that have no concept of when they take dmg and how mucj

[alpine trail]

they have an insane range on mobile

[wintry cypress]

So they just keep peeking till they die

[alpine trail]

so mobile players can practice their 0.9 aim assist

[viscid wraith]

lmao turns out turbo devo every game for 4 games is pog

[wintry cypress]

"Ez"

[tawny comet]

do the skittlecakes roleplay

turbo devo + caustic

literal free rp

[lethal wraith]

damn pred at 20k rp already?

[wintry cypress]

Skittle been grindin

[mellow kestrel]

Yeah half the time randoms just need to stay tf alive and we’ll win

And be meatshields

[wintry cypress]

Yea pretty much

Sometimes they actually knock someone tho

I actually had a valk 1v3 a round

No joke

A random in arenas

[viscid wraith]

cant play caustic 👍

[wintry cypress]

Caustic

Just play gibby

[alpine trail]

did anyone here do anything specific to improve at Air voltaic

like apart from play it is there something I can do

like individual bots maybe?

[bright elm]

individual bots

smaller versions

[alpine trail]

alright ty

[viscid wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575758199064625168/920458516353933342/best_caustic_na.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/panic-at-the-disco-demon-gif-11133045

actually i have a more up to date one lul https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900945524230881340/933010909591371856/20220118062225_1.jpg

[wintry cypress]

Beautiful

I think i have like 70 kills on gibb

Not sure

[fair gale]

it worked wtf

ty bro

[alpine trail]

no worries man

[fair gale]

more useful than kovaaks customer support 💀

didnt even occur to me to reinstall on another ssd

[alpine trail]

my first thought was maybe a memory leak or similar issue

[viscid wraith]

yay played a game of ash

quite literally couldnt ult out of a window 🤡

then ult got cancelled cause someone bumped me ig???

imagine making a character that fuckin works lmfao

[wintry cypress]

Back when they put effort into the game lol

[wintry cypress]

Fr the devs and mods never respond

Almost never*

[ember wagon]

rampart mains exist apparentally

they wanna be different so bad smh

[tawny comet]

understandable

[viscid wraith]

frfr

at least crypto is like

edgy and shit

i like his character

rampart is just cringe

[warm token]

i learned about jump sliding, wall bouncing, and tap strafing

[wintry cypress]

Jumpsliding?

You mean jumping out of a slide?

[simple narwhal]

hes talking about when you jump and slide backwards

the korean thing

[wintry cypress]

Ohhh

Thats usually used with a ras airstrafe right?

[mellow kestrel]

circlestrafing best term for it imo

or ras strafe

korean strafe, jp strafe, asian strafe, ...

it has like 10 diff names

[wintry cypress]

Yea

Ik

[fair gale]

mfs walk out, pull out the gun and start revving, they get instadeleted before they can even shoot a bullet

[fair gale]

then a mod responds with something super basic, if it didnt work they quit cuz they dont know how to help

gg wp

[wintry cypress]

Yeah

They prob need some people who help specifically

Would save the devs alot of time

I legit try to help more than they do

[alpine trail]

thoughts on havoc?

also, is it a frowned upon gun to use

also is there a "p2w" flatline skin or am i buggin

[livid cliff]

s4 flatline is p2w

[viscid wraith]

other than that they all suck equally

spikey skins slightly more

[livid cliff]

spikey skins r so bad

[alpine trail]

which is this?

[livid cliff]

dont buy em

[viscid wraith]

cause unfortunately being allowed to fucking see in this game isnt allowed

[livid cliff]

@alpine trail

[little verge]

Apex clutter looks fine to me on my Xbox!

[alpine trail]

ohh ok ty

[dusky summit]

finally

[little verge]

Remember when some gun irons had animations that misaligned the sights when strafing while ADS, even though it still shot centred and you couldn't even trust the optics?

Boy I loved that.

[wintry cypress]

been playing for 11 season but i dont remember that

[viscid wraith]

not gonna get masters, just lost a whole sessions worth of progress fml

[little verge]

It was especially bad on the G7, which already had atrocious irons. It only existed on specific guns too.

[viscid wraith]

im so fucking bad at this fucking game

[lusty vault]

i remember this

actually

never knew until they fixed it tho

so

[viscid wraith]

yeah s0 a bunch of guns irons were fucked

as was digi and the holo

[lusty vault]

holo was legit

misalligned

[viscid wraith]

yeaeh

completely fucked

[ember wagon]

spiyt what are you at rn

[hoary hamlet]

BRO WHY IS MY TWITTER FEED FILLED WITH CONSOLE KIDS OR DADS POSTING THEIR KILL FOR THE SEASON

[red quarry]

aren't they removing tap strafeing and stuff like that for pc?

in season 12

[wintry cypress]

''lagit''

[viscid wraith]

8360

finally did well

down 100 this sesh

[wintry cypress]

2 more days

u got that

[viscid wraith]

no not really

losing my roller carry tomorrow cause he has school

already so done with ranked

[livid cliff]

tried to soloq and its like ppl forget frag aint the only poi

[viscid wraith]

and caustic

this meta is fucking garbage

[wintry cypress]

in dia?

weird

[viscid wraith]

that character basically guarantees a win

so fucking stupid

[wintry cypress]

the kp changes are also ass

[viscid wraith]

team just holds fucking w and farts on you and they win

cause you cant fucking see shit

and if you somehow win another team has arrived to fuck you with fart man too

[livid cliff]

why is that weird for dia

i feel like every d4 0rp player drops frag with 10 million other teams and think they can come out on top

[twilit flicker]

what are the kp changes

[wintry cypress]

theyre from this season, dying with 5kp in top 10 is now worth more than no kp 2nd place lol

[wintry cypress]

indeed

[wintry cypress]

idk ive never seen a team in plat even drop frag

well maybe sometimes

but its along with 2 other teams maybe

[twilit flicker]

any good r99 skins?

[wintry cypress]

yes

[twilit flicker]

which ones are good

[wintry cypress]

the ones that have the tube on the side