not quite
#apex
solar gyro
solar gyro
not too far away either probably idk
wintry cypress
not too far away either probably idk
he doesnt know
viscid wraith
Master's is achievable by being a shitter, just none of us will play like that
ember wagon
every master player ive played with on solo q diamond usually got us a win
alpine trail
Master's is achievable by being a shitter, just none of us will play like that
you are correct
ember wagon
as long as i listen to their calls
alpine trail
the fact that you can't be punished or have your rank recalibrated just makes it meaningless
it takes less skill than it does time
ember wagon
yeah diamond net needs to be removed
viscid wraith
Is why people call apex ranks a participation badge
alpine trail
yeah
viscid wraith
Only thing that means much imo is pred
ember wagon
so tired of these fucking hardstuck d4's and their plat 4 fuse teammate on console rolling a god damn blunt
viscid wraith
Cause competitiveness
alpine trail
anyone can do that and get the badge
ember wagon
^
wintry cypress
sometimes it is ngl
viscid wraith
Hell of a lot of lvl 20 diamonds rn - also caustic crutch masters are everywhere
alpine trail
depending on how you play
wintry cypress
ive had games with no kp
ember wagon
skill issue
viscid wraith
Rat and then fart on last 3 for ez dub
ember wagon
jk
alpine trail
how many masters do you see with legit 2.5k badge
ember wagon
????????????
wintry cypress
how
alpine trail
they all 3 stack thru diamond and hold hands
ember wagon
you are so lost with a touch on reality
viscid wraith
Stubby, zam soloqs to masters regularly...
ember wagon
why does he downplay it omg he hit ti 5 times ofc its easy to him
alpine trail
🤣
viscid wraith
He's saying that of you're willing to play like a bitch masters isn't hard
sharp nova
cuz u dont need tp be gppd
ember wagon
oh
alpine trail
ty hektik
ember wagon
well it doesn't matter if you hit it while bad
viscid wraith
None of us have the degeneracy to stoop that low or we wouldn't be in here
alpine trail
apex ranked doesn't separate good players from bad players
wintry cypress
nah if im gonna climb masters im not gonna play like a bitch
alpine trail
bad players can get to master
ember wagon
oh thats whgat your saying
so you're saying that you hit it the hard way but others can hit ti easily
if they play like bitches
ember wagon
im so slow omg
alpine trail
hitting masters is all one thing everyone ends up in the same rank
viscid wraith
He's not calling masters bad, he's calling some players in masters bad
alpine trail
40% of the people shouldn't get there in the first place
ember wagon
oh ok
viscid wraith
Like torje is masters, but think about nickmercs when he got carried to pred lol
ember wagon
so masters should be easy to climg then right
alpine trail
master is more time than skill
ember wagon
nickmercs is goated now tho no cap
wintry cypress
Like torje is masters, but think about nickmercs when he got carried to pred lol
nick was pred??
wtf
bright elm
Like torje is masters, but think about nickmercs when he got carried to pred lol
torje hit pred
ember wagon
not pred level but masters maybe
bright elm
on multiple occasions i believe
bright elm
??????????
ember wagon
i said what i said
wintry cypress
awh hell nah
alpine trail
bruh
bright elm
what is wrong with you
ember wagon
i cant take back the past
wintry cypress
ember wagon
who is he
wintry cypress
no shot bro 
bright elm
he's part of the vt team and he plays apex lol
ember wagon
if he's someone in this community i promise you i know no one here but a few people
alpine trail
average nickmercs enjoyer
viscid wraith
torje hit pred
I know he did but he was masters for a while when he was getting his bearings
alpine trail
typical torje unknower
wintry cypress
idk
alpine trail
this sounds like a pisstake 🤣
bright elm
voltaic is an fps educational server
viscid wraith
Torje is an ex Zelda speedrunner turned aimer chad
bright elm
and you're in it
worn sparrow
i think there should def be demotions, so ppl who are hard stuck in d4 can demote into plat
wintry cypress
i think there should def be demotions, so ppl who are hard stuck in d4 can demot...
nooo my rank
ember wagon
i have to accept -48 everytime i get put with a d4 and their hardstuck plat 4 fuse
worn sparrow
nooo my rank
same here 😦 but i think it's only right because im def not good enough in diamond to get kps every game
and im def not gonna play like a rat to climb
bright elm
fr like damn im being judged for not knowing a VT
no you're being judged because you said torje sounds like a condom brand
viscid wraith
Luckily I don't care cause I'm only playing control and VT Northstar 👍 
alpine trail
anyone watch f1?
wintry cypress
vt northstar sounds fun as hell ngl
viscid wraith
It's great
fair trellis
Luckily I don't care cause I'm only playing control and VT Northstar 👍 <:sipbul...
watch control be succesful and not become a permanent mode
wintry cypress
anyone watch f1?
not anymore
silver seal
wtf does VT do
wintry cypress
mfs making us pay extra
alpine trail
damn
bright elm
like who says that bro
alpine trail
new drive to survive season soon
wintry cypress
real
bright elm
<:bruh:812877652678410240>
ember wagon
it took me a while to figure out this isn't the kovaaks discord no cap
wintry cypress
<:isleep:914304758087573504>
wintry cypress
it took me a while to figure out this isn't the kovaaks discord no cap
lmao what
bright elm
@solar gyro when u going to play apex and not the benchmarks 
ember wagon
but i love this server so we good
bright elm
i wanna see u dominate
wintry cypress
but i love this server so we good
why is there a random russian in the apex channel of the kovaaks server tho 
silver seal
Bro what am i reading rn
ember wagon
ive never been in the kovaaks server b4 so idk
bright elm
Bro what am i reading rn
wintry cypress
it took me a while to figure out this isn't the kovaaks discord no cap
u just said thios
this
ember wagon
not that i was in it
wintry cypress
??
bright elm
stubby is saying he thought this was the kovaak's discord server (idk if he read the server's name)
ember wagon
i assume this kovaaks
ember wagon
i get that but i thought it went by another name
wintry cypress
lol
ember wagon
some dude i 1v1'd like when i first got the game invited me
bright elm
uh ok ✅
alpine trail
and living in denial
ember wagon
true
wintry cypress
currently spiraling into madness
ember wagon
i said i used to believe btw
wintry cypress
👍
ember wagon
this was before i started chatting so calm down
viscid wraith
bright elm
solar gyro
<@490108507681718283> when u going to play apex and not the benchmarks <:peperHm...
i havent played voltaic benchies since like 4 months
wintry scroll
bro wtf is happening in this server chat
viscid wraith
A descent into madness
bright elm
what have you been playing in the mean time?
ember wagon
anyone wanna 1v1 for warmup
solar gyro
aim training practice overall
wintry cypress
nah imma go
bright elm
idk last time i've interacted with u, you were grinding for nova
which was a while ago
solar gyro
i played a bit of aimbeast, rA stuff
ya i kinda stopped playing voltaic stuff after i hit 11 ish nova scores and that old astra one
bright elm
i heard aimbeast is good
solar gyro
good but hard and 2head community
bright elm
2head community
viscid wraith
Regen 🐐
wintry scroll
like its the first time in ever i do an aim benchmark
viscid wraith
Crackeded aimermans
bright elm
ez for regen
viscid wraith
We need to 1v1 more again bro I'm becoming bad 
solar gyro
i mean
golden berryBOT
Gweria#6969 has been warned
solar gyro
bruh
viscid wraith
LMAO
solar gyro
well some aimbeast benchmark scenarios are a bit fucking horrible*, requirements dont make sense too
theoretically good though for practice
solar gyro
viscid wraith
I need to remote desktop 1v1 wonder how that'd be - leave my roller plugged in for that juicy .4 
bright elm
well some aimbeast benchmark scenarios are a bit fucking horrible*, requirements...
like requirements for each rank?
wintry scroll
yeah
some scens just give you free diamond/master rank
while some is just hard as fuck to even get plat
wintry scroll
yeah thats true i know
im just saying since aim rank is the essence of the ranked mode, they gotta do it properly u know
silver seal
rank isn't aim
????
wintry scroll
personally they are just goals for me to reach
bright elm
lol what are u talking abt stubby
bright elm
some scens just give you free diamond/master rank
i see
bright elm
is aim beast still in early access?
remote river
silver seal
Bro they're talking about aim beast
ember wagon
yeah
silver seal
Which is an ain trainer
bright elm
silver seal
remote river
ember wagon
omg
wintry scroll
bright elm
ember wagon
poggy you have a 2.5k you're not even invited
ember wagon
no you didn't put a sleeping emoji
wintry cypress
tawny comet
turning hitmarkers off gave me aimbot 💯
tawny comet
someone unironically posted something like that in here months ago
bright elm
what
worn sparrow
im sure it was talked about yesterday
bright elm
"muting sound allowed me to concentrate 100% of my brain capacity into beaming these shitters"
worn sparrow
cause we were talking about gaming merchant
ember wagon
someone i 1v1d said if he turns off his sound and listen to the rythym of his clicks then he plays better some real crackhead sjot
wintry scroll
"muting sound allowed me to concentrate 100% of my brain capacity into beaming t...
based
bright elm
debating hitmarkers on or off 
ember wagon
that was probably me
tawny comet
"muting sound allowed me to concentrate 100% of my brain capacity into beaming t...
nono
the hitmarkers
i cant find it though
worn sparrow
search up hit marker in this channel maybe it's one of those messages
ember wagon
he will find so many results good luck
tawny comet
thats what im doing
worn sparrow
well i searched up hit marker in this channel and i only see 23 results
might be different if you're searching the entire server
ember wagon
...
tawny comet
ember wagon
if you think theres only 23 in this channel
worn sparrow
well i searched with space
ember wagon
porbably today its been said atleast 10 times
tawny comet
worn sparrow
between hit and marker lol
worn sparrow
dude it's not that much at all
wintry cypress
U searching for how to turn them off or smth?
worn sparrow
that makes sense
ember wagon
just playing
worn sparrow
ah u got me
worn sparrow
ember wagon
who's tryin 1v1 when storm point comes on
tawny comet
yes
ember wagon
bet
tawny comet
ember wagon
its crazy how 1v1 is more fun then an entire map
ember wagon
bro the mirage
worn sparrow
i dont really mind storm point
tawny comet
otherwise you might aswell play a singleplayer game
worn sparrow
but i guess it is pretty slow sometimes
ember wagon
yeah the problem is that you dont really get to giht anyone
its about 15 minutes of running and 5 minutes of battle if you go a full game
kind of the same pace as ranked
sharp nova
viscid wraith
Well fuck 
viscid wraith
Lmao I wanted to increase whale percentage for memes
The 1% for the other options tho is sussy
ember wagon
oh lol
guys ive been getting this thordan smash guy in my feed for leaks and i saw a vid where he said he hit pred 5 times
i watched his gameplay and he looks like he just started im so confused
ember wagon
oh
tawny comet
viscid wraith
Well yeah
You're playing vs 50 and 6 year olds
Little Timmy tryna grind but momma whoop his ass cause he done didn't take the trash out and he comes back dead
Console pred means you play the game with more than 2 brain cells and no interruptions
viscid wraith
Console preds with egos are comedic
Good job bud, you merced literal toddlers for 100k kills
worn sparrow
if they truly wanted to feel good about their ranks they should just switch over to PC already
but then their 0.6 becomes 0.4
and they're against better players
viscid wraith
Then they come to PC and play 1 or 2 fresh account lobbies and go on Twitter saying "y'all just bad I'm the greatest I can do that shit on PC too"
Good job you're still playing vs toddlers 👍
They magically stop bragging so much if they stick to PC, it's kind of funny
bright elm
you can be that bad on console and hit pred??
idk if you've seen console lobbies
like strictly
console
the controller players we get are usually playing with a pc player
because they have to
viscid wraith
They have to ye
bright elm
otherwise they're only cross platform with other consoles
i've literally seen this apex pred xbox player
the most dogshit mechanics i've ever seen in my life
bright elm
doesn't know how to bubble fight, he legit whiffs half his shots
viscid wraith
Mercing console preds means you killed a gold PC player
Plat PC could run over console preds
worn sparrow
no idea how he didnt 1 clip the 1st guy and the car shots man
plush burrow
then why you guys dying to console golds
worn sparrow
then why you guys dying to console golds
i am bad 
bright elm
then why you guys dying to console golds
hoary hamlet
then why you guys dying to console golds
just shit at the game men
plush burrow
gameplay looks ass cause of input delay
im 10x the bot on console I am compared to on pc
viscid wraith
I've played console apex as well, it's def noticeable but it's not that bad
plush burrow
I've played console apex as well, it's def noticeable but it's not that bad
what rank 😄
I was fine with ps4 apex until I switched to pc for a year and tried going back
viscid wraith
It was on my buddies Xbox, iirc he was plat
plush burrow
idk what xbox is like, I only had standard ps4
ember wagon
ps4>xbox
plush burrow
people say newer gens are slightly better but still have input delay weirdly
viscid wraith
He was like lvl 400, I played pubs taking turns for a couple hours
ember wagon
only because of the UI
viscid wraith
They're all shit
hoary hamlet
will the new LTM allow multiple legends on the same teams 😈
hoary hamlet
thinking some fuze rev vibe you know
ember wagon
simple as that
viscid wraith
Not when you factor in that its near un-upgradable and will be obsolete within 2 years
plush burrow
will the new LTM allow multiple legends on the same teams 😈
imagine 18 gibby ults going off at the same time
plush burrow
Not when you factor in that its near un-upgradable and will be obsolete within 2...
bro ps4 been out for like 9 years
ive had my pc over 5 years
with same parts
plush burrow
was a budget pc back then, only just upgraded after 5 years, 2 years thing is bs
viscid wraith
Ok and once the PC stops cutting it you can upgrade it
hoary hamlet
later got a messaged after 2 hours saying its sold out
was i gonna get the pc no
but i just wanted the list to the stay the same
<.<
plush burrow
you had 2 hours to get it? wtf at msrp?
viscid wraith
Once the console moves on unless games are backwards compatible you have to get the new one to play new shit
leaden delta
does anyone here use stretch res?
plush burrow
Once the console moves on unless games are backwards compatible you have to get ...
well the ps4 has been out 7/8 years, ofc thats going to happen eventually
plush burrow
and its what, another 400 after 8 years of use to uprrade
ps5 is insane value for money, same way ps4 was when it came out
viscid wraith
Only the most recent consoles have competitive tech to pcs
leaden delta
i kinda want to try stretch, whats a good res to try
hoary hamlet
i kinda want to try stretch, whats a good res to try
how stretched do you want it to be ?
viscid wraith
PS4 was a good console compared to other consoles, the Xbox was garbage - but compared to a PC it's barely decent
leaden delta
idk, just something that doesn't make me loose all my fov
hoary hamlet
nd 1680x1050 or 1728x1080
plush burrow
PS4 was a good console compared to other consoles, the Xbox was garbage - but co...
bare in mind the price comparison , then it was very good value at the time lmao
hoary hamlet
idk, just something that doesn't make me loose all my fov
go 16:10
iron dragon
ye all those 5 are great for stretch
viscid wraith
So it's a good deal for shit
hoary hamlet
i use 4:3 for stability on the laptop
plush burrow
it was never shit
viscid wraith
Lol
plush burrow
you prolly calling it shit cause you die to console kids
hoary hamlet
bro i never knew what xbox or ps4 was like till 2015....
viscid wraith
K bro 👍
plush burrow
sorry
leaden delta
1680 x 1050 good?
plush burrow
bro i never knew what xbox or ps4 was like till 2015....
came out 2013
iron dragon
v good
hoary hamlet
1680 x 1050 good?
yes
plush burrow
was crazy tech for 2013 especially at its price
hoary hamlet
came out 2013
bro i was neek
ember wagon
limitz you ever seen those console kids with like 250k kills but they are diamonds
leaden delta
i might make it 1080
hoary hamlet
till like 2015
leaden delta
since the blur annoys me
plush burrow
limitz you ever seen those console kids with like 250k kills but they are diamon...
every low sens player looks bad tbh
they arnt bad but they all look back
hoary hamlet
so far the best roller player ik is limitz
plush burrow
well some probably are bad but yeah
plush burrow
so far the best roller player ik is limitz
❤️
leaden delta
i cant use controllers. i flick the joy stick thingys to look around lmao
plush burrow
I just found out you can sharpen knifes using wetstones
I been using blunt knifes for the last 10 years
smh
leaden delta
i hate when people steal wraith from me, i tried q but i put down a life line drone
plush burrow
i cant use controllers. i flick the joy stick thingys to look around lmao
2/3 months you can get good at it
I hate when mfers get mad at me for taking octane
solar gyro
genuinely wondering sir, when did i say this lol
plush burrow
sit the fuck down, you dont own the game
viscid wraith
Controller is weird AF initially
hoary hamlet
i think he played console too so he knows how it works nd all
viscid wraith
Especially going back from mnk
plush burrow
depends on past experience and talent tbh
I picked it back up day 2 lmao
and was just as good as from a year back on console
but fresh players itll take a 2 months to get good
after that theres a big skill gap in players, its hard to improve if you are stuck in the lower bracket of players
solar gyro
leaden delta
1650 is mad fucking with my eyes aye
solar gyro
<@!490108507681718283> you still in here
barely
plush burrow
what you been doing? still vaaks or other shit
plush burrow
gweria the most committed person to vaaks, idk how
nearly 1 year anniversary for you lmao
ember wagon
vaaks main?
solar gyro
nearly 1 year anniversary for you lmao
still a long way
solar gyro
vaaks main?
yes sir
plush burrow
wasnt it like February/march
plush burrow
real ones know I when I was diamond gweria was silver
gweria once asked me for advice
shit on
hoary hamlet
arent you already good at vaaks though ?
solar gyro
solar gyro
arent you already good at vaaks though ?
personally i dont feel good enough no
not evenc lose
hoary hamlet
personally i dont feel good enough no
ic
mellow kestrel
arent you like nova
solar gyro
im satisfied when i can comfortably hit astra-divine scores eyes closed
solar gyro
arent you like nova
between nova and astra if id grind benchies now probably
plush burrow
😦
charred plank
solar gyro
still a looong long way 
leaden delta
between nova and astra if id grind benchies now probably
what do u play on kovaaks when u arent doing benches?
charred plank
looks like fun,
crylix and gen in the same team
nick + g2
snip3 is back as well
solar gyro
what do u play on kovaaks when u arent doing benches?
practice
leaden delta
like what lmao
solar gyro
like what lmao
well just scenarios that i find useful for myself
i look at my weaknesses, and i get rid of them
no routines or playlists
leaden delta
ah ok makes sense, tbh all apex routines seem kinda bad
charred plank
Timmy + Lou sounds illegal lol
gen nafen crylix, pure mech team ❤️
tfue is also there with skittle XD
leaden delta
is there actually skill base match making this game for pubs
viscid wraith
Yes
leaden delta
f to doubt, why are my teammates alway brain dead, and lvl 30+
viscid wraith
It gives you level 10s and the balances the rest of the lobby around you lol
leaden delta
makes sense ahhaha
viscid wraith
It's a system of averages with the prioritization not on balanced squads
charred plank
its pubs, you need to be able to win many 1v3s, enemies are bad as well
leaden delta
i had two ps4 players lvl 23 and 55, i can tell because i can hear the ps4 fan in open mic
worn sparrow
if you're on pc, how did you end up queueing up with 2 ps4 players tho
ember wagon
people always base the whole lobby off of the champ squad
like just because champ is a pred doesn't mean everyone is
its probably mostly diamonds
charred plank
apex has update, whats it about
leaden delta
if you're on pc, how did you end up queueing up with 2 ps4 players tho
apex has update?
viscid wraith
Idk.i didn't launch it
leaden delta
fuck, wrong reply ahah
viscid wraith
Prob just back loading the next season
Adding more assets and such to the game since it's close to time
charred plank
apex sucks worst game ever, rollers are bad !! not fair!!
viscid wraith
And they don't care about data mining as much this close
charred plank
only good thing is hit marker off feature
tawny comet
🙏
leaden delta
ok storm points is on, no more apex now
charred plank
viscid wraith
Just play VT northstar or ow - that's what I would do if I was playing br lol
Come back for worlds edge repeat
viscid wraith
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srum38 btw this
Lmao
charred plank
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srum38 btw this
https://twitter.com/HisWattson/status/1486843148282257409 better like this
Twitter
viscid wraith
Gotta love the straightforwardness
tawny comet
@ember wagon you wanna 1v1 still
leaden delta
im so tempted to quit apex again and become a full time mmo player again, its so boring without mates aye
iron dragon
im so tempted to quit apex again and become a full time mmo player again, its so...
this is what i did, haven't touched any fps game in 2 months. just been playing osrs, rs3 and tibia while waiting for elden ring
tawny comet
worn sparrow
play wow arena or just wait for lost ark
worn sparrow
arena is pretty fun tho
deep linden
remote river
cant u have 103 fov
i had to set mine in the cfg
displays in game as 102 but is 103
viscid wraith
I just play 104 lol no way in hell my eyes notice
I play 103 ow in vaaks but that's like 86 in apex fov scaling
bright elm
wattson
viscid wraith
I honestly don't mind wattson mains
bright elm
i have this hatred for defensive players in pubs
they make playing in a building unplayable
viscid wraith
Caustic and rampart tho are weirdos
Wattson is actually really fun to play aggressive with
Break doors with fences, use gen for cover, etc can go crazy with her
Plus small hitbox
remote river
placing quick af fences is so satisfying
viscid wraith
Also ez thirsts that don't need to waste hot drop ammo
rain marsh
What did it say. And I think it was you that said you got gm playing 3 hours a day. Might of brought up the wrong person.
solar gyro
What did it say. And I think it was you that said you got gm playing 3 hours a d...
6 hours* 
im talking about the "i was even told by gweria if im not playing 3 hours a day of kovaaks im ass"
i never said that
solar gyro
i said smth with the lines of if u dont play more than 1h30 of kovaaks per day, stop thinking of getting gm+ anytime soon lol
bright elm
i mean an hour of kovaaks
is normal
if ur committed to improving
i don't think more than 2 hours is necessary
zzz
solar gyro
every person decides what is necessary or unnecessary
im just saying that the top ranks will almost be excluse to people that actually grind the game, there is no work around
solar gyro
30min- 1h30 is nice for okay improvement, warm up and stuff like that to "support" your main game a bit
but you wont get gmc+ anytime soon doing that, and you shouldnt expect that. which isnt bad or good
lusty vault
Gm
solar gyro
what
lusty vault
Hi spiyt
bright elm
but you wont get gmc+ anytime soon doing that, and you shouldnt expect that. whi...
nah you can still get gmc with an hour+ sessions
imo
hoary hamlet
nunu still alive pog
lusty vault
yes
solar gyro
nah you can still get gmc with an hour+ sessions
unless u play for like a year +, i dont think so
bright elm
unless u play for like a year +, i dont think so
still doable
solar gyro
how many are there with 1 hour per day playing that are above gmc rn
lusty vault
gm is easy
solar gyro
or exactly gmc
solar gyro
lol
solar gyro
very fast improver hit gmc at around 200-250 hours
that base alone would mean almost a full year of consistent grinding
solar gyro
im pretty confident though that the fact that i stacked my time so hard, was an important factor to me improving that fast
bright elm
if the question was is it possible to get gmc with an hour per day
you can argue that it'll take long yes
solar gyro
well if it takes 1year+ or longer then idc
lusty vault
Now get good at video games
solar gyro
practically there are barely people gmc or + lvl with 1h per day
austere glen
there are barely even gmcs in general
solar gyro
so id rather not say "well theoretically u could reach that". theoretically u could do celestial complete too with 5 years
bright elm
so id rather not say "well theoretically u could reach that". theoretically u co...
celestial complete is different than grandmaster complete
austere glen
also, with working out, you don't get gains by doing 10 hour days every day
even if it takes "200-250 hours for a fast improver" that doesn't mean just rushing it
solar gyro
also, with working out, you don't get gains by doing 10 hour days every day
aim training has nothing to do with physical stuff lol
austere glen
even if it isn't, it'd be closer to studying
which also doesn't work if you do it too much
solar gyro
which also doesn't work if you do it too much
well you can pump up to like 6 hours easily very effective, spread out in the day
solar gyro
celestial complete is different than grandmaster complete
i dont think the difference is too big in terms of practicing methods
its just harder, and will take 500x more time and a very strong will
still easily possible with 1h-1h30 sessions if u do that for a couple of years lmao
just sayin
solar gyro
idk i find the low playtime advice stuff (yeah theoretically u can go gmc+ dont be afraid) weird
tidal bough
10m session each day 💪🏻
solar gyro
no clue why its such a big thing here tbh
bright elm
idk i find the low playtime advice stuff (yeah theoretically u can go gmc+ dont ...
the reason why is because most people here want to improve their in game aim
not actually climb the ranks
solar gyro
well defining goals would be always good lmao
bright elm
it doesn't make sense to spend like 5 hours in kovaaks if you want to improve at apex
well we don't have to define goals when the description of this server
lusty vault
I mean figuring out what your intention is should always be the first step
bright elm
is to provide resources on improvement in mechanical skill
oh
that's what you meant
lol mb
yeah it just depends on what your goals are
if you just want to climb the ranks of voltaic, go crazy with the hours
we just recommend low playtime because of what i said previously
austere glen
no clue why its such a big thing here tbh
because aim training by itself isn't the point of it
you're aim training to improve in some other game
not at some random lb
solar gyro
recommend low playtime because assuming goals * lol
bright elm
recommend low playtime because assuming goals * lol
no because whenever someone asks
they legit say
i want to improve at x game
austere glen
recommend low playtime because most people who play actual games came here to improve in those games
lusty vault
Assuming they want to be better in game is a bad assumption
A lot of people just like aim trainers
bright elm
yeah it's bad to recommend someone who just wants to improve mouse control and climb the ranks low hours
but for most people who ask in advice, they want to improve at a specific game because they specified what game
remote river
i personally find playing kovaaks for more then 2+ hours insufferable
solar gyro
there is a very decent amount of ppl that want to reach high mouse control it self - high ranks etc. and they get told 1-2 hours is fine, countless times i've seen that lol
bright elm
there is a very decent amount of ppl that want to reach high mouse control it se...
well i never do that so lol
solar gyro
also the amount of times people were absolutely confused when i said, yeah i actually grinded for my skill level is also interesting lmao
bright elm
like you said
austere glen
troll hands wrote those words
bright elm
most people are recommended 1-2 hours
solar gyro
troll hands wrote those words
what
remote river
If i was playing Kovaaks 5 hours a day itd be considered my main game over apex
as of right now i avg 5-6 hour a day on apex
bright elm
If i was playing Kovaaks 5 hours a day itd be considered my main game over apex
well yeah that's what were talking about
it depends on what your motives are
solar gyro
to be fair
austere glen
maining an aim trainer just makes it sound like you're unable to apply that training anywhere tbh
bright elm
do you want to improve at a game or do you just want to improve mouse control
austere glen
it's like never graduating from school despite acing everything
like cool, you have good aim, but are you gonna use that for anything real or nah?
solar gyro
for 99.9% of the kids, mouse control overall isnt the problem in their games
bright elm
maining an aim trainer just makes it sound like you're unable to apply that trai...
having better mouse control makes learning a game's mechanics and how to aim in it easier
solar gyro
so aim training overall isnt really efficient
solar gyro
like cool, you have good aim, but are you gonna use that for anything real or na...
you are missing the point lol
people that want good mouse control and grind aim trainers, want good mouse control itself
they dont really mind player a game
bright elm
aim training can be efficient, it just depends on how you use it.
like if you're just playing the same playlist everyday all day
you're not using it properly
you're just going to remember the bot pattersn
and gain higher scores because of that
austere glen
i feel like the improvement you'd get in 5 hours of training in one day would be more effectively achieved by spreading that time out
solar gyro
aim training can be efficient, it just depends on how you use it.
for most people here, its not the most efficient way to improve in a game, because mouse control itself isnt the problem to begin with lol
remote river
like if you're just playing the same playlist everyday all day
you mean im not just supposed to grind the benchmarks 
solar gyro
what
bright elm
for most people here, its not the most efficient way to improve in a game, becau...
well this is a self improvement in fps games server
actually
idk why i said that
solar gyro
oh yeah i forgot
bright elm
i was thinking of a point
but i forgot
what i was going to say
lol
still i find aim training a good way to keep being consistent
solar gyro
vf cookie fusah mbm hauntr sestroyed unans leica caprah, all "cant aim in game"
my bad
bright elm
why did you list those ppl
solar gyro
LOL
bright elm
yk
remote river
still i find aim training a good way to keep being consistent
thats quite literally the only reason i use aim trainers
bright elm
not sure about the rest though
charred plank
Now get good at video games
i bet
solar gyro
some full aim trainer grinders like mbm, some more mixed like vf cookie that focus more in game at this point
bright elm
but i don't think anyone said that high ranking members aims bad in game
unless i missed it
im alt tabbing rn so lol
viscid wraith
Hi spiyt
Belated hi back lol
https://c.tenor.com/4ssu5o9Myp8AAAAM/lilo-and-stitch-disney.gif
bright elm
oh
lusty vault
It’s so weird to list people who have thousands of hours in game
To be your
Kovaaks mains
LMAO
solar gyro
every person i just listed is or was a bench grinder for a decent amount of time
bright elm
that doesn't change the fact that they have 1000+ hours
in the game of their choice
or at least a lot
solar gyro
so can not be a "bench grinder kovaak player" if you play other games too ?
what does that mean lol
solar gyro
i actually listed mbm and u said none of them grind kovaaks lol, what am i even doing here again
solar gyro
???
ember wagon
gg sk
lusty vault
I grinded fps games to eventually become a tft one trick
viscid wraith
my man, grinding 10k hours kovaaks to play POE
Eyyo how am I gonna click on my.loot accurately without aim training smh
bright elm
I grinded fps games to eventually become a tft one trick
rank check
bright elm
tft?
lusty vault
Silver
bright elm
o
lusty vault
I’m braindead
charred plank
i am beta diamond
bright elm
wtf
solar gyro
man what am i even doing here again zzz
lusty vault
Silver is hard for me
charred plank
rng game
bright elm
ur lying nunu
charred plank
man what am i even doing here again zzz
yeah just leave XD
viscid wraith
TFT is just learn meta and run 2-3 boards until dia
bright elm
no way ur stuck in silver
charred plank
TFT is just learn meta and run 2-3 boards until dia
that is why i stopped, i was too good abusing a meta, then got super bad player could not abuse a meta.
lusty vault
And now I place 8th almost every time
bright elm
TFT is just learn meta and run 2-3 boards until dia
ur oversimplifying it lol
ember wagon
sk
lusty vault
I don’t care enough to learn the game
solar gyro
Gweria stop being a shizo
what
lusty vault
I play because it looks nice
ember wagon
we spent an hour not improving
ember wagon
an hour legit playing
bright elm
so you got diamond not knowing how to econ?
when to level up
when to roll down, etc
lusty vault
blitz tells you when to do all of that
lusty vault
LMAO
viscid wraith
Ok true true i did have to learn roll and econ patterns
ember wagon
wait this mans stuck in silver
lusty vault
What do I eat for lunch
bright elm
rice
lusty vault
Ya I’m silver In tft
bright elm
wait this mans stuck in silver
if ur genuinely stuck in silver apex
find another hobby
lusty vault
I’m the highest rank in every FPS you’ve ever played
ember wagon
yeah
lusty vault
Don’t worry
lusty vault
viscid wraith
You watch 2 guides on econ and then copy meta to diamond* there fixed lol
bright elm
I’m the highest rank in every FPS you’ve ever played
hentai aim trainer?
bright elm
You watch 2 guides on econ and then copy meta to diamond* there fixed lol
there we go
i hate this sert
set
i missed set 5
viscid wraith
I enjoy tft a bit but its v basic
bright elm
i used to play it 24/7
until burnout
and pain
i went from d1 to d4
at some point
in one day
viscid wraith
I played set 3 I think
viscid wraith
Was super flexible set, climbing was easy
solar gyro
a tiny bit true for vt benches to be fair but man wtf
lusty vault
Now it’s an actual aim trainer
solar gyro
i didnt read that one
lusty vault
Ya or something like that
bright elm
lemme check
solar gyro
also i need something braindead to do while figuring out my poe league starter
shit is driving me crazy
charred plank
we spent an hour not improving
i immediately starting my kovaaks and turning hit markers off and sweating my b*lls , 24 hours a day to grind my aim really quick
bright elm
poe 
lusty vault
You’re doing it
bright elm
i actually used to love poe
viscid wraith
Just do ncyclone slayer
bright elm
LOL
lusty vault
Talking in vt apex
viscid wraith
Can't go wrong starter
lusty vault
Is as braindead as it gets
bright elm
bro cyclone slayer was the funniest shit early game
bright elm
You’re doing it
just saying
viscid wraith
That or magma ball marauder or whatever he's called
bright elm
hentai aim trainer is going to be the next revolutionized kovaak
solar gyro
im wondering why vt is like this man
bright elm
wait hentai aim trainer legit looks like ass
viscid wraith
1k hrs poe , it got so boring
bright elm
wtf
bright elm
1k hrs poe , it got so boring
you getting lost ark?
viscid wraith
Prob not
solar gyro
lost ark 
bright elm
i might look into it
solar gyro
you guys saw the new legion raid?
viscid wraith
My brain attention span is so bad for rpgs now
bright elm
i remember i bought new world just to not play it ever again
lusty vault
VT is like this because people hit nova leave the discord come back as white name and think their opinion is fact
solar gyro
bright elm
bright elm
take like fucking 10+ hours
bro what
charred plank
VT is like this because people hit nova leave the discord come back as white nam...
XDDDD
solar gyro
VT is like this because people hit nova leave the discord come back as white nam...
what
viscid wraith
I cba to grind for items or levels anymore which makes most rpgs boring for me
solar gyro
with what statement do you want to argue now lmao
bright elm
I cba to grind for items or levels anymore which makes most rpgs boring for me
riot's mmo?
im excited for it
honestly
solar gyro
it doesnt look booring though, its not just high hp
the boss had 6 main phases that took hours each with so many mini phases, shit looked nuts
charred plank
I cba to grind for items or levels anymore which makes most rpgs boring for me
just control your mouse better 🙂
bright elm
yeah i don't like when mmorpgs just make the difficulties
have scaling health
and no new mechanics
like legit that's how i felt about wow
solar gyro
^ thats the big nopers
bright elm
some raids were just
oh you ramped up the difficulty?
okay we upped the health and damage
viscid wraith
Warframes problem forever - artificial difficulty thru bullet sponge scaling
solar gyro
i hope lots ark gets some good success, i want to see the kr endgame stuff come to eu soon
bright elm
we can only pray
solar gyro
game could be huge 
bright elm
solar gyro
only played russian thingy a year ago and had a blast
charred plank
@viscid wraith tickmercs practising gibby for comp
https://clips.twitch.tv/CourteousSpookyBeefBlargNaut-cLjyQVK8hfSncWXi
viscid wraith
I played rpgs too much like way way too much as a kid my brain just numb to them now unless the story is really compelling
bright elm
I played rpgs too much like way way too much as a kid my brain just numb to them...
rip
most of my childhood was
solar gyro
@lusty vault u gon answer? 
viscid wraith
<@!414209946108821513> tickmercs practising gibby for comp
https://clips.twitch....
Lmaoooo
lusty vault
What games are you good at again?
alpine trail
me? none
solar gyro
what exactly is your point nunu
alpine trail
W
lusty vault
I’m jw
solar gyro
jw ?
lusty vault
just wondering
solar gyro
im not particularly good at any game, because i dont play anything else except for aim trainers + poe and some casual stuff rn
charred plank
What games are you good at again?
solar gyro
halo looked weird
bright elm
halo is my #1 game rn
bright elm
i love it
solar gyro
idk i kinda wanna go top 500 ow
charred plank
halo is my #1 game rn
u play on roller?
solar gyro
but q times are too rough
bright elm
sadly no
solar gyro
every single time i wanna play i just get bored
waiting too long
getting called a smurfer every second game
bright elm
it's dominated by roller
solar gyro
idk what to play 😭