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I mean , this is like 10 wins in a row
loosing 10 games in one game against a cheater which is super common rn
yep
i am happy to have -20 , i would cry of happiness if i get -20 when i lose
there's a reason i don't play ranked arenas to get an actual rank lol
i just play if homies want help
me and limitz we got 8800 points rn and not playing anymore, not playing is also grinding XD
we played like 3 days
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wait wut
Would be cool if there was sort of a community library of mouse shapes you could 3d print, so you could print out various shapes to see if they feel comfortable to hold before you go out and drop $60-120 on a mouse
Rtings has a 3D mouse comparison which is the best I can suggest.
Select a mouse you already use and compare the shapes in overlay and you'll be able to find something that better suits what you're looking for.
Yah, it's just hard if you want to try something that's drastically different
Kind off interested in smaller ergo shapes that would be good for claw, but I don't have a reference point because all of my mice have been ambi
Right now using xm1 with a relaxed claw and it's very comfortable except my ringer finger never feels like it's in quite the right place. No pain or anything though. It's like being in a photo and not knowing what to do you with your hands
love getting only mozambiques
Bruh I'm loving the wingman pk loadout on the roller rn
my friend bought 230 apex packs
i will never understand people paying for this game >><<
i got 2
Not surprised, but as per usual disappointed with this dev team lmao
Anyways I drive home now yay brb lol
still didn't mention anything about the visual clutter. nothing in that reply made sense or even seemed sensible it sounded like it was just spiteful toward pvp lol
Pretty much
Thats alot of words for saying pretty much nothing
This fucking line: "This may come as a surprise to some, but moving while looting is a bug"
Nah, it surprises fucking NO ONE
Also
They're still planning on removing tap strafing
Even tho lurch practically makes it so it's not possible
please dont make me cringe
They're gonna have to do some wacky shit with keyboardgrace values for that to happen
i legit get goose bumps when i hear someone complain about tap strafe
And even then the question is: What counts as a momentum conversation in 90 deg angles?
moreover why would we not want to conserve momentum at 90 deg angles?
anyone else remember when they said they would fix tap strafing by removing the ability to bind it to scroll wheel 
hard lie
Well, at least we don't have DZK anymore since he said he wanted to look into taking out wall bounces next.
btw are there any plat gamers looking to play rn? NAE
Beibs is turning out to be just another EA schill so oh well
Make fun game
Remove skill cap to make money
Game dies
Go next
EA motto
My favourite part of the whole conversation was them looking into visual clutter "from the examples this week."
Like bro, you've had examples FOR YEARS. This is not a new talking point.

I'd play, but I gotta eat some dinner and get ready for an early shift for once.
I'd say hit up some of our eu bois
Ping isn't bad
Abso rej
There's others but I am brain fried from long day lol
damn I would but I got off not long ago
I might come back in a bit tho if youre still up
Good luck, thereโs still time for you king ๐

oh I didnt see that message

im also down for this one as long as we have similar schedules

What timezone?
Oh cool im CST and around the same
Rip
should still be enough for master tho
nah
doubt it
and he says ' It is too complicated to improve the other features/limits for roller'
I mean yeah, we do not know the background much , technical background it must be hard to change some features that we ask easily. But yes, its obvious money >>> all, for the company
I'll be back in around 2hrs if you're still on we can run some games @agile dove
yeah ill be around late tonight
Cool
People that 3 stack in pubs and play Bloodhound and Gibbo deserves a special place in hell
Like what the fuck are you doing
kind of a nothing response and im sad he didnt address the clusterfuck of the visual clutter
i will say
better response write there then DZK's entire career
Didn't Josh Medina just answer it?
Oh wait

did he?
Yeah he said something about bringing it up
u got the source for that?
Also since JayBiebs said his DMs are open
i wanna see what he said
JayBiebs kind of a lost lamb on the roller
idk what that means
Sent him a beeg beefy reply about tap strafing
As someone in Asia who deals with Ras and Crylix type strafers
honestly i respect his opinion on tap strafing even if like i disagree. the fact that his issue wasnt the fact that console couldnt do it but the fact it can be very hard to read was at the least consistent
i think in the vast majority of scenarios it is pretty readable
Ban this guy for using movement
I don't think that was even as big of a tap strafe I think it was a Ras strafe but that guy used scroll wheel instead of just one W key input
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Yeah not much more I could do, took 75 damage from Wraiths PK when I was fully behind cover
Else I might have knocked the Octane also
This is before she hits me for 75 from my POV lol
Have you tried just killing him
The superglide into tapstrafe is something I really wanna learn though
Its actually useful
energy ammo uses metal bullet casing. noted
@charred plank I'll 1v1 in 20-30 min if you're still down
Running some scens to warm up
atm
lmk
@deep linden lmk if u want to play today btw
having the rampage disabled has been pretty pog
i hope it stays gone for the rest of the split
Why was it disabled? Is it because of the thermite glitch?
15mins
Yep. Also the Sentinel
is spiyful coming?
yee
i mean if ur not i have an alt to get to diamond with
Nah I'm already dia
yeah doesnt matter to me
!voice-limit 3
@deep linden, you changed the user limit of this temporary voice channel to 3.
aight I'll make some cup noodles while waiting
bro, i played 1 arena match at the same time playing Chess on my phone lol it was tought
it was stupid idk why i have done that
add me in game
Same name?
yes sir
@agile dove oi
Let's gooo 
any other fine individuals wish to participate in some platinum ranking with me and rail?
I would but my main is s4
My alt is g3-2 :c
gold? plats and golds can play together
Yeah ik but I wanna play on my main but if you need one Iโll get on
Whatโs the team looking like
wym
What r u guys playing
br
lol nah but I did a noice 200 beam with the Volt...one time 
You totally dominated me even on 160 ms lol
Fuck, I was on a good pace too lol.
I cannot win
skill issue

u still playing?
play diff char
I do
But itโs funny getting people to shoot at clones
You can ping the clone and it tells you if itโs the real one or not
Also the clones have the loudest footsteps in the game
Yeah
what mirage mains dont want you to know
don's one of my boys 
I got a b180 high score too today
84
Apex has shat itself
Iโm trying origin now
It is stuck on the loading screen
Like when I log in
Like
The wheel thing that spins right at the start
Before you select server
And the EAC took 10x as long as normal
How
I think I know what might have happened
My dad can shut off my internet
For my pc
Phone
Yep
He did
Iโm so used to it being apexโs problem
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I automatically assumed it was a bug
Oh well
Im going to try to get a good sleep
Itโs 11:23 in Sydney au
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America?
That explains why Dallas players were so ๐
Holy moly
Early morning gamers
isn't it the holidays
Yes
Thing is, I take adhd meds and when I donโt do a significant amount of physical activity each day, I fall asleep at 3:00am
ahhhh i see
nah i think this very much pertains to apex legends
Adhd meds = aim assist?
Honestly,
I could go without them for a few days (itโs school holidays) and then ship them to Hal and all kbm players in algs
i'd have to ask my mate
To make it fair
That looks like my dog
your dog is a goat?
When he is shaved
that looks like @feral basin to me
This is getting well off topic
impossible, that's clearly you ๐
aww stop itm ur masking m e blush
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So basically, I had this idea for a crypto buff
The content in this game is so stale we're losing reasons why we should talk about this game at all
bruh
was gonna play last night
just passed tf out for like
7 hrs
pog
spiyt with sleep ๐
u must be new here
nah he been hanging around
but ye qheu hit it on the head when she called this #generalbutwithoutvalorantplayers

except the chat occccasssiionnnalllyyyy dies out

im not ranking till like seraph or others ar eon

rip
jollu
ik u said u were old but
its 8am
Is 3 pm alloooo
lmfaoo
i did that last semester and just got the rest of my sleep through all my classes
Grats on the 84!
oh yo any of yall that play on 4:3 whats the updated method for it?
+mat_letterbox_aspect_goal 0 +mat_letterbox_aspect_threshold 0 +building_cubemaps 1 in launch options
are you still able to not tab out during it?
you can tab out
ah bet
i remembered like an old vid from complys i think had a method that didnt let you tab out without fuckin everything up
so i just set my display scaling and put in the launch options?
also obviously helps to change the config to have your res and fullscreen set to 0
so you don't have to alt+enter twice
alt+enter?
fullscreen / window toggle
ahhh
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yay same exact dogshit teammates 3 arena games in a row 
roller gibby that cant do more than 300 damage in 4-5 rounds and a lvl 36 bang pog

why can i do shoot like that gibby when i play NA

pov apex legends
Morning all itโs a gibby day

like
why is the particle effect of bullet collision
this intense in the first fucking place
@viscid wraith wanna run some games
its hitting the wall lmao
id be down, im with jo so we have a 3
Any 1 tryna to 1v1 rq
@alpine trail region?
na
east or west?
east
aight
bought acc maybe
when do i hit the movement key
during the bounce
or when im about to hit it
The latter
@kind sandal I was in that game
Bruh
This Wraith was using some sort of macro to auto loot deathboxes
Havent seen loot disappear that quick in my life
idk who tf this loser is, but he prefired me and then proceeded to track my teammate thru a wall ๐
bro i couldnt find any flatline either??
I was finding a decent amount of Flatlines earlier
a lot more now that the Rampage is gone
i hate this fucking video game https://streamable.com/9pj9kh
mb for not assuming the piece of cloth wasnt actually vibranium panties someone had left out to dry
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tshirt stops 7.62 rounds
yes
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its the famous minecraft youtuber poggers
the amount of people you can get with this is utterly ridiculous
solo trios can be fun https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstrusePlacidPistachioKappaRoss-nICbZByi8r_p7F3c
It's insane how many people are obviously walling and never get banned. Like super blatant following shit through walls.
LMFAOO
i never laugh at messages
but
that shit was funny as fuck
bro said vibranium panties
they aren't walling, they just main BH

bloodhound without the bloodhound
Its pretty much impossible to detect, same with xim
Unless they grind ranked at the highest level
Xim is honestly worse
i had a pathfinder with a bow shoot in a random direction and it hit me anyways
lel
Fucking AA on mnk lol
pog
I don't mean from an anticheat perspective, but more Hideouts looking into reports manually. Because some of these fuckers are super obvious about their walling.
That's why all FPS should use demo/theatre systems honestly. Great for spectators, good for competitive, good for anticheat, and amazing for content creators.
name........
ara ara 
well plyed
they get banned when the cheat is detected at the end
every single player who injects cheat " X " to their game once, gets banned when the cheat " X " gets detected
@hoary hamlet bro
I went and got tested
they said I came out positive for being cracked 
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does any of the methods for apex 4:3 stretched still work? i cant seem to get em to work
+mat_letterbox_aspect_goal 0 +mat_letterbox_aspect_threshold 0 +building_cubemaps "1"
add to launch options
alt+enter twice in server selection screen
maybe some shit in videoconfig too but i don't remember
thats what im doing but it isnt working
damn nixs edits getting kind of clean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA4zAJfTl4Y
How smooth is to smooth???
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kutanna really coming into his stride with the vids
skill issue
bro
all 3 of us
legit ran like fuck
everytime I play pubs never allow me on the kraber
being gatekept from my real potential
x)
play pathfinder ez fix
i cba man
aw yeah I always solo no fill
but on rare occasions like when I take a few days break I will hop on to troll some pubs w mates
get back into the rythm
hit some YY 360 kraber shots uno
I am the menace of solo q and no fill
just started doing so today for trios
instead of duos
helps a lot
popped off this one game
11 kills and 3k dmg in one area
after arena ranked solo q
solo no fill became easy and boring i migrated to solo arena
i turn off
my fucking obs
for one fucking game
i play the best i have in 3 fucking months

unluko
yeah I didn't mean no fill arena
oh
just genuinely ranked arena solo q
when you have no one to rely on half the time
and isolate 3 1v1's
with no looting downtime etc
great for mechanical practice
probably all the best "clips" ive hit lately obs have either been off or not working/responding
about as close as I will get to TDM in apex ever
annoys me so hard
or FFA
ill def do that after i get better at no fill trios
i wanna practice for solo ranked to masters
I should probs aim train
are you playing 4:3 stretch?
gonna make an alt
mouse feels weird in my hand
not currently
what routines are nice these days I don't wanna spend too much time tho
for tracking i just use torje and hauntr's playlist
does wonders
but most of my playtime on shooters have been on 4:3
reactivity is perfect for apex
where can I see this
ye
KovaaKsBindingBaitedLowground
KovaaKsBuyingRoyalpurpleBuildbattle
i usually don't do all of it nowadays
just like a few
god i love one clipping
@alpine trail https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/rz7aaa/kraber_headshots_for_your_mental_health/ should make a clip like this
what legend should I get in apex I have none
depends on what you like
I don't know what I like
well idk what ur looking for
some are support
some are dps focused
some are slow pace
who do you recommend for this meta
valk
what is she good for?
valk is arguably broken
rotating
and pressure, mobility and the option to take over high ground faster than anyone
immediate (albeit slow) vertical mobility, an aoe stun tactical and very strong rotational ability for her whole squad
im 100% sure
this wraith is not happy lmao https://streamable.com/ul0x56
man has wraith in his name, hes 100% breakin something rn lol
-1 apex playercount after that one 
I had more clips but I didn't want the vid to be too long thx for watching :)
good aim bro, but id recommend maybe trying to spice things up next time
i dont think many people are gonna watch 6 mins worth of just raw clips without even a little music
2-3min long videos are like perfect length, plus most songs fall in that range too 
ngl idek what game to play anymore
i mean honestly
1 clip Apex Legends ASMR
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if this was 30min long i'd watch it all
apex has mostly felt stale and boring
4:3 works now for some reason
warzone isnt too bad anymore but u have to spend hours lvling up the meta just to compete
ive just been playing warframe recently but need smth new
fps gaming in general sucks rn if you dont want to rot your brains out playing tac fps
yeah thanks for the advice ive just been saving these clips up for a while so i just wanted to clear up some space
yeah
apex is somehow the least shit of the shitpile
fps is what i like playing the most but none of the games this year have been too good at this point
imo
warzone and fortnite have gotten less shit
halo couldve been close but the franchise as a whole takes so little gun skill i cant keep interest
that's what im thinking too
lmao
As compared to?
fortnite isnt fully shit anymore if u just go for having fun or wanna try a competitive br
super people lowkey couldve been alright, if it wasnt just higher ttk pubg with abilities
i personally find pubg feels clunky, and they literally just took the base game and threw sprinkles on it with some tinkered data values 
Roblox honestly looked legit form the clips I've seen from like Boardzy. But I have AFPS background so it makes sense to that part of me.
apparently kek
arsenal is decent but some games like phantom forces are annoying
cause u gotta spend hours lvling guns in it
i just want a game with a pro scene that gets decent attention ๐
like
overwatch is unfortunately A. overwatch and B. dead lmao
tbh i might go and level up some vanguard guns and actually give warzone some more time to see if its actually bad
I just want to go back to the good old days when abilities weren't a thing in competitive FPS and when Quake and CS were king
like VAL/CS? heh
Vanguard was the only time I actually considered pickling up COD. But there isn't much of a competitive realm to it, is there?
tbh i like abilities when done right
nope
if u want a competitive game maybe try fortnite
Isn't CS still the biggest in esport?
its gotten less shit
Valorant already overtook it
Ah
any game riot makes will be the biggest in its category
And there really isn't anything close to that title at the moment
if it isnt theyll throw money at it until it is
Tried it and I would actually get RSI faster playing it than osu
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its fun with friends
used to be good
Maybe there is a way to mitigate that with certain kebinds and sens
i sometimes play it with them and fuck around
Anyway the only time I would like abilities is if they're supplementary to the gameplay and not part of the core
valorants entertainment is just u getting pissed off at comp
I don't like having I win buttons for cheap
i miss the times when i could have the worlds worst posture, mousegrip etc, no stretching and play like 12 hrs daily without even noticing slight signs of any RSI
is this what getting old feels like?
I want to know that my own physical mechanics and my mental decision making and positioning were the reasons why I won
yes
Not some cheap assistance from an ingame mechanic
Honestly I think if CSGO learns from Valorant, it has the ability to take back the throne
Def play Quake then.
Valve just needs to step up
What is there to learn? It's the same thing except there's abilities, yeah?
Maybe a refresh, on a new engine?
One sentence:
I live in Southeast Asia.
Better anti-cheat, better servers, rank progression is clear, guns are fairly balanced by everyone having access, spawns are more balanced instead of RNG, first shot accuracy in Valorant tends to be better
tbh i think valve needs a new tac fps to continue the cs series but change it and learn from val
Valorant on the other hand needs community content, better map design, and go back to the core product they envisioned where abilities are not necessary + allow character changes because you're not always going to feel a certain role consistently
And Apex just fucking needs to step up jesus fuck this game
And also fuck RNG spray patterns and the whole bullshit of tapping being inconsistent after a few rounds
(In Valorant)
^
Honestly I have a lot of gripes about Apex that I just can't get over with that I think a lot of people would agree on such as dogshit servers, dogshit rank system, dogshit balancing of abilities, lack of content despite LTMs being able to be put on fucking weekly or daily or hourly rotations, dogshit audio, visual clutter is a fucking mess, dogshit anti-cheat, the fear of ability creep because omg tapstrafers are ruining our game even though we don't understand tap strafing, and basically asking us to spend money despite all of that bullshit
But hey because casuals don't know how to keep their spending habits in check, they encourage Respawn to be complacent about the problems that obviously plague their game for the past 8 fucking seasons
my brain just had an aneurysm https://streamable.com/5i0dgz
no fuckin shot
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Video games just can't be video games anymore. They are reoccurring income for a lot of people in that industry. It's a damn shame.
Yeah, it's become more of "we need money" instead of making an actual decent game
Fully agree
I get games as a service is a thing now and it's probably never gonna go away but jesus fuck if the service is this bad why the fuck are you still paying?
Nah casuals care
Casuals care if they're having fun at the cost of actually having a decent game that isn't gonna make them cry
Not enough to change the system.
bruh were talking about people who struggle to complete the battlepass despite playing the whole season long
Games can function without any further development if the fan base actually cares. Quake Live for example.
Or Unreal Tournament.
they buy everything respawn throws at them but ply less then 2 hours a day
Yeah that is genuinely fucking weird, isn't it?
i mean
Like Apex has the potential to literally be the best and most mechanically intense FPS ever for the big boys at the top of the boards
everyone has the right to spend their money on whatever tf they want
if they have fun with it good for them
but from OUR perspective its fucky
But hey let's make the game more dogshit because casuals don't care anyway they'll eat this shit and spend more money
Or they use it to find gay dudes because I am always being asked if I'm gay, they must be out there hunting or something sarcastic shrugging
indie studios arent even making fps very much anymore cause of how bad cheating and overall overhead costs have gotten
genre is just a cesspit for AAA garbage
I bet CSGO has had more quality updates despite Valve practically appearing only once every two years than Apex.
And the worst part is these casuals are the types to actually try harder than the cunt who's just in a pub game for kills
They deny it but clearly from their gameplay
They care so much about placing high in a pub match and not playing ranked and actually trying to place high in something that matters a little more
They'd hide in a building for 20 minutes and possibly even loot in zone waiting for the end fight that ends up being a dice roll for them if they going to win while the cunt who's only looking for kills just gets the kills, dies, and goes next without a care about the last game
exactly, the game is good enough for them to keep playing it, but not bad enough for them to complain
This creates complacency.
these casuals are the caustics in pubs lol
Only do enough for that outcome. Any more or less and you're gonna be wasting resources and sour the bottom line
sounds like respawn to me
This entire generation of gamers and people are complacent, only striving for what's enough to pass the time and not trying their best for the best at all.
Or was that always the point?
no?
Because the way things are economically, there isn't any room in accel in anything except school if you're lucky or your job so you can keep eating.
I think a 5v5 arena shooter with apex mechanics would be really cool, and not the actual round-based apex arena mode, but a quake-style arena
yeah i mean maybe, but respawn earns millions
In a way, you should be working for what's enough
And that's for someone else's pockets
But a lot of people aren't passionate in anything tbh
EA im guessing
Yeah not even those who maintain the game.
The problem with BRs is they have so many players, but the top 20% of players need their own game with their own ruleset that's tuned for their skills
And in that sense, I wouldn't work any harder or utilize my entire knowledge if I'm not being paid for that same amount.
Now this is an idea!
any game with apex mechanics would be phenomenal if done right if feel
I think warzone, apex, fortnite should basically have ranked, but then maybe an esports mode that only unlocks if you get to say diamond or masters
which respawn doesnt seem to know how to do apparently
Honestly though if Apex adds more gamemodes that appease the casuals instead of forcing everyone into BR it would be a lot more fun for everyone
They could keep the esports mode one season behind and remove any shit that's not well suited for competitive
Like think about it: there are modes where people can just get on, chill, and then dip
ltms would also be nice, and less stupid guns like the fucking rampage
While the main gamemodes should be the competitive spotlight
Elaborate
BR shouldn't be the primary competitive mode I feel at that high of level. I mean, maybe, but there should be something fundamentally different.
They said we'd be getting more LTMs this season but were already past the first split and all we got was a bunch of people leaving Respawn leaving 19 positions in Game Design and 24 in Software Dev and a lot of the big boys leaving, lots of exploits being discovered and abused, and an event that wouldn't even have an LTM to go with it.
no recoil, 28dmg per hit, infinite mag + charge up mechanic that can destroy doors
tbh the destroy doors mechanic isnt too bad of an idea, but the recoil is non existent, literally takes no skill to use the damn thing
And tbh Apex has had all the issues I mentioned above for over 8 fucking seasons and they still haven't done jack shit meanwhile the people at R5 already made solutions and have their own content and did the changes the community at large wants.
Don't worry, you're about to see more DICE devs speedrunning leaving a team even faster than Respawn 
BRs are kind of dumb for competitive play. At least ones with 60+ players. Might make sense if it was smaller maps with 30 or less, and somehow less rng, like you have starting loadouts or something.
this
"Somehow less RNG" man they've ignored literally every suggestion made to improve lootpools, and only made them fucking worse.
"Let's introduce an ammo type for ONE fucking weapon that could have been a crate weapon altogether"
nah lootpools are better than season 0 imo
They way loot should work is there's only one gun on the whole map and it's the smart pistol from titanfall 1 with infinite ammo. Everyone else just lands and gets nothing and has to punch eachother.
Like one guy gets the smart pistol and he just has to kill all other 59 players
Yeah remembering opening a box and getting three white shields?!
Def better, but has it done enough for the game overall? Yeah but that could've been fixed 4 seasons ago. Maybe even 6-7 seasons at this point.
yeah idk
still happens plenty of times where i just pick up ammo and attachments with no weapon
Yeah, but loot was atrocious back then. It doesn't make now good, just more tolerable.
Part of the problem is there are two types of BR players. Some of them like the idea of looting and getting shit and having to make due. It's like the survival mode type players. But Apex is more suited to something else, less rng and more skill based.
i still think the gamemode from season 8 where u got mozam off drop was hella good
feel like it should be default
no grey items
idk i played that a shitton
But imagine adding crafting to a BR and not just copying Realm Royale's system.
Remember when they brought in Mendo to give suggestions on how to improve the game?
And then ended up not doing anything?
They just had to show to some effect that they MIGHT be trying to care about what players had to say.
Pay someone to fly all the way over just to ignore him in person, the ultimate Tpose
they even ignored playtesters i believe
people that gave feedback and said this or that is under or overpowered
just ignored
didnt change anything
They'll even ignore nerfs/buffs depending on pick rate.
can genetics affect peak skill preformance?
It's because what the pro players and high level players want is vastly different from what the people who only play quickplay want. It's trying to cater to two vastly different groups and it doesn't work.
Average players wouldnt even notice the changes the pros are suggesting.
Yep
They think "omg it bad" when in reality they don't even use the tools at their disposal enough for it to even matter
Hence why I do like the idea that was mentioned about a specific part of the game/lobby that can only be accessed by people after a certain rank has been reached.
But don't you see, the casual players would see that developers catered to core players for once because they complained about it hard enough. The casual audience has certainly never done a thing like that before (bhoptapstrafelegendnerfsAAreducedr99wingmannerfs)
And then you'd have a small, yet efficient skeleton crew that would maintain those servers and the playing therein.
I suppose the line of memory is deep enough that it wouldn't be forgotten.
I used to play fifa a lot and I played with guys that woudl get mad if the players on the other team used skill moves because "They just wanted to have fun." I think there's just way too many people in the player base that want more rng, a lower skill ceiling so they can not die immediately on drop
Which is why I think they need two modes that are balanced differently
lmao
reminds me of instagram posts of people being good at a game like warzone or rocket league
them pulling of some crazy shit
and people in the comments say ''this is why i stopped playing the game''
Yah, it's interesting. You have people that have maybe an hour a week to play, and if they hop on they just get shit on and quit. So then the devs have to find a way to keep those people playing, buying their shit, but also not screw over the people who play every night.
i mean i gotta be honest, there's no way someone with 1 hour a week can compete with someone with 30 hours a week
idk how they would think so either
casual players offer a lot less value to the developers
They should also have their own servers to connect to?
Heh
@wintry cypress I don't think they expect to compete with them. THey just want to play and have fun. So you end up with skill based match-making, or things added to the game that make it easier for bad players to accomplish something.
@honest heron I don't know. I think casual players actually spend a lot of money in aggregate. One person doesn't spend a lot, but like 80% of the community are casuals.
makes sense i guess
Guess so
but then i feel like apex would also need alot more casual gamemodes
Personally, I think they just need a dedicated mode for the hardcore players that has some kind of requirement to enter. That way the hardcore are just not in the same games as the casuals and they modes can be balanced differently.
not sure why they dont just make a separate mode
There really isn't anything hard about this; the game will stay the same but where they connect to would be all they needed.
not sure why the devs dont just put effort into their game
@pulsar kindle Honeslty, letting people choose might be all that's needed. If you have esports client, the casuals won't even touch it. Put a disclaimer that says it's designed for hardcore players.
Or as was mentioned before, only a certain SR will even allow you to connect.
Why design a game for pros when you can keep casuals happy and pros miserable, but just gift one some subs every now and again to keep marketing your trainwreck?
Maybe people will feel excluded the disclaimer is probably more desirable.
"Nobody should want to become pro in our game" 
kinda sucks that the devs are sabotaging their own game
Is creating a pro circuit for Apex just a bad byproduct of human perceptions?!
Wait did someone say that FR?
Or keeping it this way for, hell at this point it isn't player retention, it's all about new numbers!
Big naaaaahmbur
No no, I just imagine it as such, because I don't think they ever approached the game with that mindset.
It was just carried into existence by a select few people. You get a few die hards in any hobby/title.
Btw
Initially they did, since they invited pros to the early tests before launch.
Devs don't understand what tap strafing is
Oh I did not know that. I come from about season 7
All they see are reddit/twitch clips of it and think "ah yes you need scroll wheel to tap strafe"
to do it effectively
they can literally just add a way to do it on roller, which can already be done
It took me less than 10 minutes with a Titanfall 2 speedrunner to be able to explain tap strafing and lurch by myself
Not really. People can still do it effectively with just W key
Only "harder" in a sense
harder in that you have to spam it, which is annoying
Yup, first few seasons they really catered to pros, if something felt off they usually fixed it immediately. I remember they accidentally added spread while sliding and it got patched out so fast.
The point is simply just that you have to stack lurch within a set amount of time (0.5 seconds)
It's not fucking quantum mechanics where a particle is in a superposition
Then they realized that was only a fraction of who was playing.
You've gotta think of it like Apex made $1.6 billion so far, or something. How much of that money came from the diamond and higher ranked bracket players? It probably isn't much. Unfortunately they'll follow the money and pros will become less and less an influence on the game
About S5 they noticed how many casuals were buying in and kept doubling down. S6 was most egregious with the TTK change.
Lemme turn back time and get myself a position in the lead game design of respawn
It's especially sad when you think back to the iron crown event where they called the casuals freeloaders.
So that this travesty doesn't happen
Too late, Apex is like the only super profitable game besides FIFA in EA's lineup and even that's being affected by gambling laws.
I love this.
That was a success story for the ages.
Dude
SUPER EFFECTIVE
Like literally said "our pizza sucks" and did everything they could to turn that shit around
What rebrand?
Manโs pulled out the wall bounce and superglides and tap strafe and I somehow didnโt get completely destroyed
Maybe you're too young. xD
The bread has like 2000 seasons
Neither did Domino's
my aim was the most washed it has been in months
i couldnt hit jack shit
Nah I'm just memeing, I'm actually ancient.
Maybe an even more telling sign of effective marketing!
Iโm an only like voltaic gold rn
Maybe Iโll aim even better on my ul2
If anything, Respawn should just flat out admit to Apex being a dumpster fire and actually listen to the community. That way, casuals actually think "Oh shit we are being listened to" and instead of videos telling people to not buy or that "Apex is going downhill" people are actually convinced this is worth an investment into
I also probably don't remember the dominos rebrand because they took away my bread bowl pasta and I never forgave them since.
Vt unranked
GIVE ME MY FAT MAN CARB COMA, DOMINOS
You're better than me tho
Like 1 week of grinding you prob hit gold ez
I was like plat / diamond tracking on my ul2
Dude those fucking chocolate lava cakes
I pay Sini to change my name colour every few months to make it look like I'm making progress
Highly doubt your VODs will lead one to believe you were VT silver.
Learning how to use shotguns is a struggle
My favourite thing about them here in Canada, is that the deal for two of them comes to 4.20
does someone have like a gold-plat acc i can play on
Dude who the fuck would buy this shit
Y?
This is VT Celestial aim
VT rank doesn't really translate to game very well
Thatโs controller
plat
I know that was my point.
That's the point
I would say it doesnt transfer at all
My masters friend is a like ass aim
so u say u want a gold-plat account to play on when ur main is plat?
So
hes using my acc
ingame aim is very diff from raw aim
cuz he wanna use the wraith heirloom
You get skill by paying Sony or Microsoft 60 bucks for a roller that makes games aim for you
Fight me
:)
@alpine trail the fact that you have the mirage heirloom ๐
that's probably because he really doesn't care enough
Mirage is the best fym
i'm sure if he put in some effort he would get gmc easily
@alpine trail for sure
Fuck mb I mean aimbot
You know the sad thing is that there is people who use controller and silent aim ๐
Those people are just sad
though, gmc doesn't really come that easily
Contorller peeps rage the most I'd be upset without any skill too
Idk
I feel like if you have nova in kovaaks
Theroically you should be able to improve at a faster rate
Who needs help on roller? Certainly not me.
4:3 do be making my game look weird
that guy is so fk cringe
not even gonna say his name tbh
4:3 does look goofy
4:3 is superior
I wanna see a nova aim player with demon movement
He was strikepacking in ALGS but didn't even make it to semis
gibby is too thick
i don't play it rn but 4:3 is superior
Legit instant pred no cap
Imagine making a montage where you're always using ironsights for obvious reasons lol
kek
Sometimes I want to refund my Superlight because of my roller and then I remember I'm moving to a different FPS game soon anyway so why does it matter
Knowing every zone also helps
yep
high level apex movement and aim becomes less important
but nova kvk could be translated into good pubstomper rather quick though
The only movement that matters in high level Apex is slide jumping
Positioning first, regardless of your aim.
(And Ras strafes if you're in APAC N)
was bout to say ๐
which is why i find it kinda funny how faide is trying to go for pred
ras strafes op
i get the feeling he is going to get rolled once he gets into master
yeah but his movement is not going to save him
he's not completely braindead in other aspects of the game even if many claim so
he's so used to pubstomping though
i dont know if he understands how preds actually play
Faide killed a soft Aimer
Faide is overrated by his fans but a lot of people tend to just shit on the guy for basically abusing his pubstomp content that makes views ngl
overrated =/= bad
torjes movement is pretty aight - hes not like superglide wallbounce ankle breaking people like r3kt but he aint bad
he's kinda boring but that's it
The problem is that he basically lands the same building almost every video
And feels like Iโm watching the same video over and over
which is why i stopped watching
oh wow
another video in construction for 15 minutes
I rather watch aceu
where have i seen this before
imagine if faide became an aimtrainer sweat 
timmy is the only one i really enjoy watching because he's smart as fuck
Wouldnโt matter because he would still land the same building everytime
I did try ALGS CC and PQ (APAC S), not a single wallbounce was made and not a lot of people was tap strafing
i pretty much only watch hollow and nix
Imperialhals rage is so funny
only two players that i will stop playing to go watch
Lmao
why is broski so mad
Same with mande
mande is great
They get flabbergasted how they die
but he doesnt really rage too much
Ye
its kinda cringe how he hackusates when he dies tho
Idk but I feel slower with path









