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@viscid wraith it depends on my mood if im in a good mood i hit it 90% of the time but bad mood i literally cant hit it its crazy
I'm so inconsistent with them, I'll do like 5 in a row and then go 40 in a row missed in game.
Yeah, I can hit then OK in range but in game it feels far more difficult.
@little verge keep in mind you have to learn to timing for every elevation
@ember wagon That's true. Plus I don't practice movement worth shit. I'm just a walking turret in Apex
"crazy improvement after only 20 minutes in kovaak! WOW"
holy shit the amount of 3.3 and 3.5ks i have because i forgot to farm the last team omgggg
I feel that. I once was a bit short of a 4K so I tried farming the last guy, but then he repeeked me without healing fully and I double domed him with Flatty Anvil.
Solo to Diamond on my first season of ranked, happy with that.
title is just click bait dont hate me pls i dont cheat:)
00:00 - 02:15 I
02:16 II
#humanaimbot #apexlegends #apexclips #aim #movement
That Caustic jumpscared the shit out of me.
mans was straight vibin
we both watched his teammate straight up give up on life and were having a moment of silence
IT ALWAYS ENDS THE SAME WAY, WITH ME OBSERVING.
bruh whatchu dumbass do
lol
caprah ur cracked
jesus
what the fuck is the ltm today
its like im playing a fucking tournament these people have honed their strats
actually real. i have a whole folder of old clips where u literally cannot see anything from old muzzle flash
need 2 for apex
damn that glow is disgusting with blue on the reticle
why do the reticles even have that glow effect
so trash
muh realism
yeah i cant do the hyper glow reticles, forces my brain to look at crosshair instead of target
Need 2 anyone?
thats what an actual sight looks like irl, wingman iron sight is like some 5$ sight off amazon
glowy mfer
blue seems to be a big offender tho just makes it a lot worse
What’s a good cross hair colour?
green is technically one of the easiest recognized colors to the human eye
Ah ok
doesnt mean its the best for everyone but it does well for me
I played around with the settings and got cyan and cba to change it
yeah you’re a hater
id go with green or teal. i would recommend teal because ive found that theres quite a few scenarios where green blends in
green
just spent 14 hours p[laying ranked and just played 1 hour of kovaaks
wow
time for be
d
Mousepad recommendations?
check the mousepad master sheet in #resources and pick medium or faster
ive picked a cyan colour over green because green is hard to see on storm point
indeed
why do i know that anime
when u get the guy that has been shooting arrows in ur ass while u are fighting
You have no idea
How many Telstra/nbn workers that I am going to cause pain upon. Male, female, non binary. Every single Telstra and nbn employee will pay for not letting me play apex on DAY ONE of the new split where apex is finally on a good map
And I have to go on holiday for a week now. I was intending to grind from gold 2 to at least plat 2 today but I literally had 7 second ping on DISCORD. Not even apex.
@chilly charm ^^^
you need help fr
Happy?
idk man
I’m just so pissed
Why did the outage have to be today? When the map was finally good
doesnt mean you have to say you're gonna sexually harm someone
In hindsight, it was a tasteless exaggeration
regardless
uuuuh?
I think I’ll show myself out of this chat for a week
probably a safe call yes
This is the better one anyway lol
https://c.tenor.com/KKzZmeWBm7wAAAAM/skill-issue.gif
Losing my mind playing this game
Jolly do u play with people or are u usually solo?
Solo
Bruh
Bring out the Bloodhound and life is so fucking easy
16 kills 4K damage, alloo I has wallhack so balanced
Waow
I'm inv u to my dc stop soloqing lol we got a bunch of people in here
Like most of us still no fill a lot but I've been enjoying the game so much more just int w keying pubs or playing with actual people in ranked lol
This game solo is aids
Crazy ranked game, our third died and we killed 4 squads on our own
damn that was fast
brazy
damn 6700k and gtx970 can barely hold 180fps in firing range
@alpine trail what monitor? :O
vg259qm
i got mine a few months ago
it supports 10bit colors btw
on 240hz
if you set the resolution timing to "exact reduced" in CRU
i set mine to exact reduced and almost fried the whole monitor wtf
never touched cru since
my settings for apex is native 240hz (with 10bpc colors), ELMB off, OD120
so hdmi is getting 280hz?
idk i think it might be possible with hdmi 2.0
newer versions prob have it ig
not 100% sure i just use displayport
goes up to 240 hdmi
what the hell
i didnt even know this was possible
holy
i can even tell with just my mouse mvmt
xD
cursor
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/ here's the firmware update for the 1080 just in case you need it
ye ill have to do all this stuff when i get home from work
exciting tho
you guys said overdrive 120?
mine goes to 100
damn bruh
wtf
it has a spekaer
speaker
what is this shit
since when do monitors have speakers in em
cannot change brightness with the 120 overdrive?
you should be able to
what mode is the monitor set to, srgb, racing or w/e ?
i think some modes don't allow you to change certain settings
i use fps mode but racing is also good
brightess contrast hdr are all unable to be changedn ow
when i did the thing off/on since it was default on, then overdrive now 120
ah ok
now i can
when i cahnged it to fps
ye it was probably on srgb then
it does yeah
man
the thing im most surprised about
i show the monitor has a fuckin speaker in it


Y'all's monitors not usually have speakers?
They aren't fantastic but my Acer has em
it's very nice when switching from an older benq
i kinda wish i still had my old crt tbh
1024x768 120hz was fire
CRTs underrated af
actually nice response times usually
only problem they are too thicc
yeah and they weight a ton
i think i have like a
40 inch crt in my basement
its fuckin huge
anyway time for work
i used to have a 32" samsung crt tv and a 17" crt monitor
hf
playing apex with 13cm of mouse space is very ass
i keep hitting my keyboard
bringing out the roller
true
@coral walrus yo where can i find vancer gretxa
i got mine off the yuki aim site but i think its sold out there now
i think xraypay sells it as well?
do they ship to brazil?
or nah
fack
yea that was a hassle
i sent mine to a friend in the us, then she sent it out to me
i gotta do that too
how's the gretxa btw
but then shipping will be soo much more expensive
i saw maxgaming got them now as well and i was kinda curious
It do be non-existent
sorted out the mouse space issue
i went and bought a $15 60% apple kb knockoff and a $15 450x400 mousepad
kinda fire ngl, only problem is that its bluetooth wireless, no option for wired so the latency is probably ass
also why is left control replaced by fn
Gl hf jolly
anyone grinding plat rn?
cause nobody uses left ctrl
😍
apple people use their command key instead LUL
what kinda weirdo doesnt use lctrl
esc opens up a browser tab and theres no fn lock fucks sake
Ctrl is my toggle crouch for if I need to take hands off kb lol
having to press fn and esc to get the proper esc input is actually kinda triggering
couldnt even fix it with sharpkeys or an ahk script because fn doesnt show up in key history
what even are these lobbies
im on the worst setup imaginable and im completely demolishing these people
Ur seshu smh p sure this is standard fare
You were being held back by your setup obviously
yeah i need to get a setup like this at home too
broken zowie fk2 as mouse, 60hz dogshit monitor, 30x20cm of mouse space, $15 kb and mousepad goated fr
ngl this keyboard isnt actually even half bad, just wish there was a fn lock and lctrl and fn were swapped
or fn actually giving a keypress windows can detect so that i could use ahk to rebind would be fine
does eac ban interceptor driver
i might try using interceptor to rebind the fn multimedia keys
nvm this doesnt detect shit either
finaly swiched off console!11!1
I cant even gain points in Plat
Kind of a bad comparison though since most competitive close range fights are down to bubble and shotguns. Even with that, roller on 0.4 is one magging far more consistently.
Can't wait for more people to make more excuses about aim assist, both for and against
what a clown post
"Gibraltar actually runs a slightly negative value over replacement legend" no need to read even further
It's just data, not actual conclusions
so whats its purpose?
These are just findings, not conclusions (as of right now considering the paper hasn't been released since it hasn't been graded)
idk why people are saying the post is bad. when its literally computer data from ALGS games
like theres literally 0 bias
^
i dont know why people dont understand t hat lmao
ye
if ur in algs maybe
mnk is only better if youre algs level
been saying that for a long time
if youre a casual play roller
but this is voltaic cord
so
everyone mnk
regardles
I'm still gonna buy roller for the memes and for fighting games tho
people gonna be like "no need to read further" because they can't seem to take non-biased facts
I wonder if the researcher would try processing numerous VODs from ranked play too though
but then again that would mean having to find more data from all ranks
I don't really get how that data is supposed to determine anything without saying prerequisites for the fights to be considered being added to the data. For all we know half of those could've been an mnk player shooting a roller who was 1 hp
I mean, you can't say it's "non-biased" when there's elements to the data gathered that significantly alters the data itself.
Like we know outright that click timing and bubble fights are a significant portion of ALGS close quarters fighting because of Gibraltar and shotguns.
So that already weighs on how something like close range full auto weapons handle, and subsequently when AA is strong.
If it was just a machine gathered information of top controller players and top M&K players hitting targets under the same conditions for tracking based weapons, that would be a completely different story.
keep in mind
this is at highest level gameplay
take it for what it is, idt its bad info or anything
just goes to show at the highest level the discrepancies for roller vs mnk is much more minimal
rank arenas?
Yeah, it's not bad information by any stretch, but it's heavily leaning towards "best case scenario where M&K has advantages over controller" and people are acting like that makes controller balanced.
i think this sums it up decently
one of my questions is does that data take in to account the total amount of mnk players in algs vs the total off controller players in algs
because if it doesn't that data is completely irrelevant

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just realized im like born without wisdom teeth or something
lol
i only have 28 teeth
i turn 21 in 4-5 months so they prob would've appeared by now if i had any
had to have mine removed
facts
I only had my lower wisdoms taken out, the uppers aren't impeding anything but they're only just starting to come thru the gums at 22 so who knows
Might just be late bloomer af moment
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realized yesterday that i have a cavity
sadge
rly awkward hard to reach spot
i still got my wisdom teeth
all of em
they did that scan shit and said id have to get em removed
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he said they were totally fine
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facts
anyone have a fix for my apex
its in the first loading screen
i have verified game files
idk how to fix
if you're using steam check if you're offline/invisible on steam friends
is that it?
ye if im offline i'll be stuck on that screen too
change to online and youll get in insta
🐣

this keyboard kinda fire for gunz as well, might start maining this
even though its wireless only
yes
does it look clean or can i clean it up even more?
It's actually pretty clean
with a decent distance covered
sweet
bro what is arenas
teammates be like
lose round 1? ok 10 min penalty time
literally leaves lol
Jesus, I didn't realize how cheap the Viper mini was. Bought one to give it a go since it was so cheap.
And yeah, arenas are probably the least fun concept they could have added to Apex.
nicee
i have multiple friends who use it who say its very good
I like my MZ1, but for 30 bucks and a return policy I mean, fuck it.
this looked and felt really smooth but the the more I practice tracking the more inconsistent I see my PK getting lul
I reckon it could be because of the way I think I should be using the PK
i don't either but i should
but with the wingman and the PK I always seem to default to thinking this is a flicking gun I need to flick
it's hard wired into my brain
after like 8k hours of cs
i used to have flicky aim before apex so bad habits like that plague me aswell
yeah xd
yeah man
I could be so much more consistent just got to force myself to practice specificity
any pubbers
when you hit the minimal peripheral flick 
i have like 2k hours worth of throwing around my mouse instead of actually putting effort into aim
yeah but id do it without any thought at all lmao
like the stupid flicks you see in clips
it wasnt an aim heavy game at all though
because it's inherently inconsistent
compared to tracking
im not saying flicking is like
something you really shouldn't do
my flicking is pretty decent
considering most of my time playing i've been flicking
from past games
but i still find tracking to be more consistent, especially with wingman
i don't track with mastiff/pk tho
not sure yet if i should or not
if people strafe and i have pk i literally just wait for them to walk into crosshair
pk is
railgun
quake
u can be insane predictive with it
easiest gun to use in the world if u have any cover
If you flick hard or don't read the target well it's awful but plenty of people can flick well at closer ranges
cool gun tho i like it
Playing duck hunt damn
that was actually unplayable
yeah
i couldnt even move pre much
my heals wouldnt even reg
yup
well i mean your ping doesnt look that stable either
the next game i got into was fine
but this is what hte last game lag was like
and also that was eu server for me
nah
was it like this ?
if so it was probably server
or weird connectivity thing
xD
itw as so laggy
didnt care
was from the same game the last clip is
lookin like a roller right here
Ping spikes can be server too unless my internet has issues too
yessir
wut is stars role? pretty nice color
some holiday roles you can get if someone wants to be nice and give you the role
there are some cool colors in there
ye
mods randomly give them out

asus vg259qm gang rise up‼️
told ya it was pretty 
did u do the things i said? 120 overdrive? and maybe downloading the ICC profile?
i recommend od120 for sure
basically calibrates the colors. if u don't like them already, it brightened/highlighted my colors more
that first guy looked like me playing
damn the whole voltaic on that asus 280hz gang
for asus 280hz you can do: 120od, shadow boost since it helps with ghosting dark tones, turn on mute, and turn off DCC/CI if you dont use any sync
all of that is in the asus vg259qm owners thread if you guys wanna check the whys
@alpine trail @visual shoal
@mellow kestrel
wait where can you turn on mute and turn off dcc/ci w/e
go to the monitor menu, last tab which is System set up, there you would see sound
for mute on
and you would see OSD setup for dcc/ci
ah alright ty
Samsung 144hz curved monitor gang with shit stands rise up
DUDE
curved monitors are kinda 
that was my last monitor
i should go through the storage while i'm here visiting my parents and see if my old crt is still here
or if they dumped it
you missed out
it is
@deep linden and @agile dove gonna be back on again tonight if you guys wanna hit it
my old crt went up to 120hz at 1024x768
the only issue with crts is the weight and size
I'm on my main rn
when my first crt fried itself i had to temporarily use this massive piece of shit nokia crt
that had fucked up colors
everything was a shade of blue
i would get a good dell crt but they're so expensive nowadays
yeah mostly for the experience now
HAHAH
i think some crts were able to do 160hz at a reasonable resolution
there are lots of crts above 120hz really
interesting
there's a really good crt video by aperture grille
1 week into aim training and I just finished up getting all the plat scores
I still don't really understand how to use the downloadable tracking sheet
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this one
now time to get diamond
nice man
@iron dragon yeah im gonna check it out
@alpine trail thats on resources im pretty sure, but if you re going for anything complete, just submit when you re done
yeah i've read that thread, ty still tho
okay ty bro I just never understood the auto updater so I think I will just do it manually
Yeah just reconnect
It happens quite often
that doesn't work when i get it
i see
im down
Sheesh imma need that tak tage soon
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Perfect omw home now I got something to watch before my nap pog
damn tak farming
if only you didn't bonk on that double jump
kinda worked out tho
true but it would've been slick
actually feelin so good rn
euphs vid actually making me want to hop on apex at 3am
the edit tho 
big clips too
jesus
i kinda wanna try editing my next vid properly
but i'll probably finish getting clips i deem good enough in 2025 then i scrap the vid like 100 times
r99 is music to my ears
nice clips
tysm @alpine trail @alpine trail
just look at the stuff i clip its not top tier, its all just decent clips thrown together
it doesnt have to be a masterpiece
yeah ik but it's hard for me because i used to be in communities where standards were constantly being pushed and if you reused shit or stayed at the same level you were dogshit
like most of my clips are stuff i'd probably see in most videos but i don't think they're even close to being usable
like spiyt said when he watched the short clipdump i posted he'd have clipped at max 3 of them 
Word I should be on in 30 min or so
what are good routines other than pureg
pure g
yeah well spiyt is also insane and his expectations for clips are even higher
LMFAOOO
.
ok
guys!! you;re supposed to sa VT!!
i stick to pureg i guess
the voltaic apex playlist is great!!
k
god if i just hit one more bullet on the path T_T would've been so much cleaner
i'm actually liking this $15 apple magic knockoff keyboard so much i might actually start maining this one and ditch my mech
b..but my score represents my skill nunu
💀
Ayo is that me in there sheeesh


id argue with you but i cant cause the only clip i have right now is literal a lottery ticket kraber clip kekw
i missed
💀
i whiffed every other shot and only bodied the 3rd player was lame
ill say this much
when i eventually get enogh clips
i'm actually staying up on the wall and not tumbling, huge moves
next vid will be absurd
now if only i could do the same to the sides but i can't
nice butteflies
nvm i can do it to the right but to the left is impossible
can't triple butterfly yet 

that's dumb i dont do that
idk i keep doing the cartwheel whenever i try going to the left
facts xd i feel the same way. I'm doing the skillmap monthly challenge. This is my current best time https://streamable.com/vxtuwj
wtf is that
damn skillmaps are crazy
that shit looks tragic im ngl
gunz the duel the hardest mechanical game :^)
i'll just install obs and dl nohboard to see what i'm doing wrong because i can't rhs to walls on the left for the death of me
do you have weaps on keyboard ?
yeah q and e
icic ye just practice then
moves will be hard depending on your weapon of choice etc
like from a shitter pov i either fuck up the slash timing or i buffer the jump and it fucks me
but to the right, front and behind i can do it just fine
its really high apm shooter
and is really mechanically difficult
im in game rn i can take a look @iron dragon
its from the early 2000s
originally published by iJJi
but now there's only private servers
GunZ The duel
that actually looks hella difficult
nah there was international gunz which was hosted by the owners themselves iirc
back in 2003
ijji picked it up though in 2006
this is what i keep doing whenever i go to the left
and tbh it actually does look like i switch from wep2 to wep1 before switching to the sword
so my keypresses end up being q space lmb 1
oh yeah not here rn no
actually sec
trust me lol this map is ezpz compared to others l0l
also @iron dragon seems actually you cant really do a true rhs in the air not really something i thought of tbh
yeah that's all it really boils down to
tbh i was surprised how little i was struggling staying up in the air even though i haven't played in about 7 months
i'm still used to lower weapon delays from fgunz so i keep reloading too early
LUL
hey i wasn't always tech tag andy :C
need to nag sini for old gm role 😔
legacy gm role when @wet glade
also weapon delay shouldnt matter unless you've already shot @iron dragon
i believe in you vantaea
id shoot my 2nd shot faster using 950 delay shotgun
if im shooting the same shotgun twice
if you're a really faster player typically 950 is preferred because there still some delay even with 1000
@wet glade give us #other channel or something i feel bad talkin about gunz in apex channel 😔
apex truly is the channel of cultured people
we made this the promod channel when it launched
LUL
we talk about 5 different games daily
fair enough
ye this channel is p lax
i might stream some other skillmaps for fun
trueeee
missed old vt #apex channel though

tbh they all help with movement in some way
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i miss tony hawk american wasteland
ik thats pro skater tho
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fair enough
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mfs would kick you out the lobby
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ye i could imagine
i think the latest big score upload i saw was a 3bil on moscow last summer
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LF1 plat
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Wingman is so good
Best gun
It like
If you can hit shots
Which most this server can
Its busted
Yeah
I mean every gun is goated if you hit shots
Its just the wingman does bigger dmg per shot
Ye
But i mean same applies to r99
If you can hit every shot
*car
I mean close range smgs kinda suck rn
Cuz the map rotation

some guns r too forgiving tho imo like even if u only hit half ur clip u still rail them
Ahem flatline
even tho its my fav gun
I think flatty is balanced
prob needs a mag nerf or like a dmg nerf by 1
yeahh took me the longest time out of any weapon to master the recoil
now i just 1clip ppl far away and it feels a bit strong LMFAO
car is ass i dont like it at all
only decent up close
Hi jas
at least w r99 u can lazer ppl at range if ur good
to me r99 recoil feels easier but prob cus ive used it a ton
The bullets leave the mag faster than my dad left when i installed aim lab
That is a joke
Aimlab is fine
Trye
*true
I mean
Wingman has best movement
I have
Horrible movemtn
i had a guy chase me into the ring like all the way to the other side of the map
Jas you are sped
Wym
You have wraith heirloom
Automatically makes you move like faide

(Not fake)
Those kinds of movement players who play on like
5 cm se s
I only use medal for like
Huge plays
I clutched up in a game with qhe today
And we almost died to the ring
But then i portaled us out
And then at the end of the game we got shit on by masters players

Yeah i yoinked her so hard
What about it
Heh
Imagine only knowing how to play one legend
I play like
Pathy but also octane
But also like
Wraith cuz shes fun
But also rampart cuz shes good for ranked
But also loba and horizon cuz they are also good
But sometimes bangalore
I mean
She just has a get out of jail free card
Worth if you ask me
🤨
i think car is pretty similar to r9 in terms of recoil just people havent gotten used to it as much as r9 and imo once people do the r9 will be dead
its more of the volt just mirrored
you on a HDD or sdd q ?
idk the exact recoil pattern but to me the recoil feels pretty similar to r9
although tbh most guns in this game have similar recoil
good one indeed
How long does it take a person to say solo queue and be good at it?

don’t put a time limit on things, that just goes down to comparing yourself to others which can be harmful if not taken correctly
If I were to tell you it took 100 hours, after 100 hours if you weren’t good at it you would feel like something is wrong with you
Q gonna keep it for a streaming pc
💪

Asher don’t you have a cracked out pc
Ngl that's as helpful as someone saying "play the sens your comfortable with" without giving a range
lmfao
what do you want me to say
oh yeah bro the average person takes 300 hours
the fuck else can I say that’s all I can tell you
it’s just a time thing
to put in concentrated practice
you need time for that
time is the baseline for it
what you choose to do with the time is all up to you
but yes
many many other factors go into it
tru, i still havent adjusted to the car at all
so i dont like it rn
i feel like its similar to the flatline so takes a lot of practice to master the recoil
car is daddy ngl
it feels SOO good up close
oh is this rielleFPS
hi
yes
whats ur twitch
railgunfps
oh swag
pretty sure its hipfire is basically the same as the r9, aka fucking insane
Yeah, CAR hipfire is absolutely nutty.
I can hipfire that thing at ranges I'd be ADS with a Volt.
I agree, Volt just feels unsatisfying to use.
The sound, the simple recoil pattern, and the rate of fire just make it feel underwhelming.
r99 is still the babe
R99 is just too weak compared to the CAR for me.
But definitely the most satisfying.
yeah i think its the 3rd best smg but nothing can match how satisfying it is
bad example - unless youre absolutely brand new to the game, someone giving you a sens range is relatively unhelpful
euph is correct, attempting to set a time limit on something such as being "good at it" is ridiculous, not everyone will improve at the same rate, and so many factors are involved that it would be pretentious for anyone in here to attempt to even guess
is CAR really that strong?
centering 2 and syw time ig
lmao
and qheu
regen just casually always one step ahead of everybody
i dont think car is much better than r99 just the ease of attachments and ammo switching is nice
the body dps is like 201? and r99 198
@wintry scroll quick go improve your Thin Aiming Long Invincible score 
gonna grind it out on like 20, 24 and 28 cm for a bit before i push with my normal sens
also trying out puresmoothness tomorrow or this weekend too
i will not stand for this unjust volt hate
volts best smg
finally
fun in it's own way
someone here with a good take
but not as fun as r9 due to skill difference needed to one clip or do well with it
true it does not feel as good as the r9
but it does feel better in the fact that its not dogshit
same reason why 301 clips are nicer then flatty cause although both guns are easy flatty is just busted
flatty oneclips are better cause the guns weird recoil imo
recoil literally doesn't matter close range
only once you get further out mid range does it matter
idk r301 oneclips arent nicer to me because despite the less total dps per mag they are infinitely easier to hit
is it? i thought flatty killed faster
i knew the headshots on that mf are dirty as hell

idk it just isn't satisfying to use for me that much or to see
301s much harder for some reason
the headshots will have a bigger impact on the flatline this is true. as the r301 is less damage but faster firerate and flatline is more damage but less firerate
i heavily disagree
i can use the r301 without sleeping for a day
if i tried that shit with the flatline id miss atleast half my shots
both r like the same
you'd still one clip

easier to wiggle recoil with flat
so id be dead
true
but jitter recoil isnt nearly as useful as people make it out to be imo
also its kuringe
wdym having no recoil isnt useful
personally i dont think there is a single time id pick an r301 over a flatline in isolation
idk theyre basically identical at range
also atleast in my experience r301 has better hipfire
im pretty sure statistically they are basically the same hipfire
flatline has a weird jiggle to its hipfire tho and r301 is pulldown a bit and thus easier for me
i mean unless anyone has any actual data im pretty sure they have the exactly same spread deviation considering both ARs. only difference is recoil patterns
301 is just
it hits diff
301 never feels off
and i think splash is right, i remember seeing some data on reddit regarding hipfire deviation
id have to find it i dont remember when i saw it lol
^
yeah not had that experience. flatline hipfire for me has always felt worse then r301
flat hipfire feels like shit until it clicks
then it feels absurd
took my a while to let it click
now i hipfire 80% of the time
u can do that with any gun tho
yeah it feels bad for u
doesnt feel bad for me at all
i really do want to know the actual numbers
cause im pretty sure they are like. probably the same or really close
if the only thing we have is ancedotal feelings about the gun then its not obvious.
lol
flatline hipfire is abundantly better
go into firing range, shoot both at the reactive target
numbers dont lie
ive been shooting at a wall for the past 10 minutes and they look identical. r301 is like a bit round and flatline seems to be a bit more sideways
shooting at the wall is useless








