apex

[hoary hamlet]

japanese apex is the best

the commentators are just too good

[deep linden]

if you wanna see how that's used with stim,

https://youtu.be/Pwzrq_QEMLU?t=98

@alpine trail@hoary hamlet ^

on the timestamp

the difference is that aimbot was crouching

[hoary hamlet]

ahh yea i remember watching that

[rain marsh]

idk how to get it that smooth

[hoary hamlet]

need to bind weapons back to 1 nd 2 but mouse buttons feel soo good

also i dont think doing this on low refresh rates will help

since less information is being displayed nd such

MAN

[lean flax]

lmfao my teammate got instantly killed by the prowler after self reviving

[hoary hamlet]

why do they exist

[rain marsh]

is this fzzy strafe?

[hoary hamlet]

people spend about 2 to 3 mins farming em in ranked idk why

[deep linden]

nope

just SAW/SDW

[rain marsh]

do i need stim?

[deep linden]

nope

but it works better with stim

[rain marsh]

i dont understand how he can keep it going that long

while crouched lmao

[deep linden]

Every jump from the floor = you get to lurch again

[wintry scroll]

wtf?????????

[alpine trail]

whose grinding ranked

should be pred by end of today

im 9900+ in 3 session from d4 to d1

[deep linden]

i'm a diamond hardstug

[alpine trail]

late grinding cause i had no team for most of split

[wintry scroll]

same here, i feel like im too noob to get master

[alpine trail]

@alpine trail i assume youre joking

but if not i can teach a lot of tech

[wintry scroll]

so i just dont bother

[alpine trail]

@wintry scroll @deep linden getting into masters is feasible for diamonds

[deep linden]

I just compete in Challenger Circuit instead LUL

[alpine trail]

its just decision making mostly

now if you get your mechanics up

you can become a not 10k hardstuck

[deep linden]

I enjoy my time in ALGS more than ranked though

[alpine trail]

I train for an hr and a half just in aim training, then 45 mins spray control-flick, and smoothing practice in range

[wintry scroll]

45 mins each day in the range? damn

[alpine trail]

then 1 hr of 1v1s w gear conditioning, 1 hr of pubs, 6-8 hrs ranked

[wintry scroll]

man u be grinding

[alpine trail]

@wintry scroll thats my alone time, i then do 1v1s for an hr

I use blue shield v red shield

and i use no attachments

for first half

for close, mid, and ranged 1v1 fights

to practice diff range's for flicking, and smoothijng

then i do cogs, then i grab mags, and shield for last 15 minutes

people get anxious though at that point

[wintry scroll]

i can only hope having that dedication to apex lol

[alpine trail]

because theyve been losing or going equal on red to my blue w no attachments

well anytime I lose, or don't do as good as I should

I get upset

because its usually cause i didnt do what I could

so im doing everything I can for a fair time now

[deep linden]

I don't grind ranked because I live in Asia

[alpine trail]

rip

[deep linden]

LUL

[alpine trail]

I understand

cause mad cheaters, and thse who dont cheat

are god tier

[wintry scroll]

lol

[alpine trail]

u got selly

[wintry scroll]

yeah

[alpine trail]

ras

fav_aimbot

kuku

[wintry scroll]

etc etc

[alpine trail]

god knows who else

[deep linden]

I just get diamond and just think of what other competitions can I join or what other game I could play

[wintry scroll]

so true

[deep linden]

Crylix

[wintry scroll]

once i get diamond i just dont care

[alpine trail]

crylix fs

i totally understand

[deep linden]

my only clout is him following me on twitter

Still #14 pog

[wintry scroll]

damn

which stage is this?

[alpine trail]

I played ALGS

today

:D

[deep linden]

Challenger Circuit 3

[alpine trail]

yeeaaa

it was free

https://clips.twitch.tv/MotionlessOddPuffinFunRun-qO5UasHFRbYU0rPu

heres a clip of me

from my boi nobles pov

in ranked

[deep linden]

if anything, I just Wkey without worrying about RP in ranked

and think about my mistakes every session

I don't care about RP I just care about if I'm improving or not

what's the point of being a rat bastard if I can't properly help my team take the win in every fight

[rain marsh]

https://streamable.com/s3zt3l
@deep linden is this it then?

[deep linden]

your lurch doesn't reach as much

so nah

[rain marsh]

yeah why is that

thats what i thought too

[deep linden]

in FAV_Aimbot's video he doesn't even move his mouse much

[rain marsh]

how does he get that much lurch.. is he spamming his keys u think?

[deep linden]

nah i don't think so

[rain marsh]

guess hes just built different

[iron valley]

oh im not the only one lagging

[hoary hamlet]

the frames

idk apex servers been weird lately

i've been randomly freezing mid fights nd shooting people through walls

[little verge]

When you vibrate at the exact opposite frequency and direction of your shaky aim to create smooth aim.

[iron valley]

valk is so fun

[hoary hamlet]

octane> wraith > horizon> gibby

for me ^

valk feels weird for me

[burnt stone]

gold gamer

[burnt stone]

ash>>>>

gold gamer with bronze slides

idk how your slides be doing that though if i'm being honest lmfao

[proven pulsar]

first game in a week

died to blatant aim assist

fun

[dreamy spade]

how tf did he do that

[alpine trail]

Have a way of doing it and not sure if it's the correct way, but jump one direction then press S then the opposite direction, then scroll wheel forward (W).

[deep linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynPv9YQd4-k

[elfin thistle]

mirage>>>>

[proven pulsar]

second game, died to blatant aim assist again

very fun

[alpine trail]

why u linkin this again

[deep linden]

it's basically the video showing what to do (no subtitles as of rn though)

[alpine trail]

its in korean

[alpine trail]

Ah okay ty

STill accomplishing the same thing with A>S>D and D>S>A

Will test out SAW and SDW

[alpine trail]

wats the japanese stand for

[deep linden]

jump i think

because Wokka is jumping after

[alpine trail]

So walk diagonally, jump, press D twice then S

[deep linden]

yep

or A twice then S

[alpine trail]

that's very different from W+D > jump > S >A> tapstrafe

[deep linden]

you don't necessarily need to tap strafe to achieve what they're doing

[alpine trail]

Ah

But tapstrafing makes it easier

[deep linden]

they've been doing it since before tap strafing was around/popularized

[alpine trail]

Ah

Well, somehow managed to get the same result

With tapstrafing

And don't even need to move mouse

Just scrollwheel on last input and character just swings in direction

[deep linden]

well that's the point of lurch

you don't need to move your mouse at all to lurch yourself to a direction on your directional input

[alpine trail]

Did you see the vid

[deep linden]

all lurch does is add to the initial momentum

[alpine trail]

Thoughts on it vs the no tapstrafe method?

It looks fine

Will have to test with Octane to see the extreme usage and see if it looks the same

[deep linden]

no-tapstrafe method would be more preferrable for those who use index finger to scroll

but pretty much the same effect can be achieved because lurch can be stacked (which is what makes tap strafing possible)

[alpine trail]

gotcha

sooo

it looks fine, right?

no ned to learn new way if it works already?

[deep linden]

yeah but personally I would also avoid stacking too much forward lurch

[alpine trail]

Well, can always turn 45 degrees to send it more in the sideways direction

[deep linden]

that makes you lose control and puts you in a possibly shitty spot

remember that you only have 0.5 seconds after your jump input to stack lurch

[alpine trail]

Also, in this timestamp, it's just bloodhound ult while crouch spamming, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08bF3bIRya8&t=742s

not used to seeing BH, so dunno if he's doing crouch macro or crouch spam

[deep linden]

yeah that's a good use of crouch spamming

[alpine trail]

Its just like, crouching every 300ms or so, right?

Instead of spamming it over and over

[deep linden]

that's not glitched, that bloodhound was just good at the animation timing

yep

[alpine trail]

When crouch spamming, how important is the duration of the crouch?

Do you just tap it for like 50ms to get the animation, or do you hold it for longer to make sure the chraracter goes down?

[deep linden]

just enough that you're changing your hitbox constantly

I don't really time it

[alpine trail]

Cause if you just tap it for 1ms, pretty sure your character doesn't even move

[deep linden]

but what I do is time it until the animation for full crouch is present then let go until close to full stand

then full crouch again

I use my gun as the animation timer

[alpine trail]

Did this a few games and it seemed to work against people, but still haven't gotten enemies POV https://clips.twitch.tv/WanderingWiseFloofMrDestructoid-Rbl3vKDb5qHt_-GQ

[deep linden]

nah you're spamming it too much and not getting enough of the animation

[alpine trail]

this is what it looks like 3rd person in training range, but it's probably not even close to what other people see

Honestly feel like the only use is to have permanent crouch model while moving from cover to cover (if slide jump wouldn't make it).

[deep linden]

they fixed that sort of crouch spamming back in S4

https://youtu.be/l58la9CO4Bk?t=22

[alpine trail]

Did they? Like server side?

[deep linden]

this is where I crouch spammed but it didn't really matter because I wasn't being shot at

yep

[alpine trail]

Ah so normal crouch spam is better.

Pretty sure the halfcrouch thing still works though

The infinite slide

Was asking some people and they said "you just look like y ou're leaning back"

[deep linden]

yep

but that's the end of it, not really a shift in the hitbox

[alpine trail]

So infinite slide good for moving cover to cover.

Or scaring people, because imagine seeing an infinite sliding Ash cross a hallway and then come back the same way

[deep linden]

personally if I'm moving from cover to cover, I would still prefer slidejumping for faster switches

[alpine trail]

Well, if it's on new map

And you're going from 1 rock to another

And it takes you 3 slide jumps to get to it

Probs better to do 1 slide jump then infinite slide in a zigzag

Cause you're max sprint speed the entire time.

Again, need to test

It also makes a lotta noise

[deep linden]

nah I don't think you'd be at max sprint speed

[alpine trail]

So it fucks with people

You are

Look at the vid

299 velocity

[deep linden]

it fluctuates between 292 and 287

[alpine trail]

Twitch clip or the actual trainin range vid

[deep linden]

training

[alpine trail]

Training range vid is 299

Well, it fluctuates every time you press A or D

[deep linden]

plus I would rather not be full sprint speed at that point

[alpine trail]

If you just hold W it goes 299 constantly

[deep linden]

I would prefer just moving from point A to B as quick as I can because being out in the open while trying to do some cheesy trick feels stupid

[alpine trail]

Ye, will have to test it still

Cause got some comments about it

"i couldnt hear shit"

Cause enemies hear your slides louder

[deep linden]

that too

[alpine trail]

Than your teammates

So was doing it into a wall

And team could jsut rush enemy

hahahaha

Like a perma Fuze cluster

or something.

but again, will have to test with friendlies and maybe try to queue snipe to test enemy pov

Also have you seen the crouch reload skip trick

Reload before empty (character throws out mag), swap weapon or holster while ammo count is 0, crouch, unholster gun, you can shoot early (cuts reload of Rampage by half, and speeds up reloads on a lot of other guns by a significant amount). pretty neato

[ruby radish]

just W key and shoot

if they die its all good anyways

[mortal shell]

Do MKB still enjoy warzone, fortnite, and apex - games where the pro scene is overwhelmingly dominated by controller?

To be honest finding out about how much of an aimbot the controllers have kinda killed all my motivation to improve and practice - knowing that any schmuck can pick up a controller and be better than the best human ever at tracking as soon as the algorithm kicks in makes me not want to play or practice at all

[alpine trail]

weak mental

just beam everyone

controller or not

[elfin thistle]

The way I see it mnk is the honorable option

[deep linden]

I enjoy Apex but not as a competitive game anymore at this point.

[mortal shell]

Sure, I’ll just outbeam a 0% delay, instant game time reaction time algorithm that never misses a bullet

[lost harbor]

@deep linden does the tapstrafe version make getting this amount of speed+distance more consistent

or can u get it consistently without tapstrafe

[deep linden]

You can get it consistently without tap strafe

[mortal shell]

I think same goes for all the big crossplay games

[lost harbor]

thanks

[mortal shell]

WZ, apex, fortnite, and it seems even halo inf

[deep linden]

You just need to get used to timing the inputs within 0.5s

[alpine trail]

play smarter g

[lost harbor]

i see

[mortal shell]

That’s a completely separate argument and was never the initial discussion.

It’s about aim.

I get what you’re tryna do with motivation and I appreciate that

[alpine trail]

aim is not the defining factor most of the time losing a fight

[deep linden]

The window for lurching is only 0.5 seconds (at least assuming that Titanfall 2's values are copied and pasted)

[alpine trail]

imo, aim is way less important than other elements

[lost harbor]

but for the best speed we're talking closer to 0.2s right

[mortal shell]

But let’s be honest with something like WZ’s amount of AA in an equal close ranged strafing fight with low TTK it’s not gonna end up in your favor

[lost harbor]

because u retain the most velocity within 0.2

even tho u can lurch up to 0.5

[deep linden]

not max speed but rather how more powerful your lurch gets

[mortal shell]

I agree, but then again, the topic is aim.

[lost harbor]

ahh

[mortal shell]

Anyone can learn good game sense and mechanics

[deep linden]

These are Titanfall 2's lurch settings (Source: https://medium.com/@swaysd0/lurch-and-tap-strafing-4b17ff63621e)

[lost harbor]

oh

[mortal shell]

@deep linden the overwhelming majority of the apex pro scene plays on controller right? Much like WZ and fortnite?

Kinda disgusting that this is what the future of FPS games are turning into

[deep linden]

Nah, quite the opposite, actually.

[mortal shell]

That’s good to know, hope it stays that way

Warzone has like only one notable MKB player that’s in the top ranks lol

Husker

I guess it’s cause AA in that game is even stronger and also lower TTK

[viscid wraith]

You're also forgetting that COD has been a predominantly casual console game for years. The PC cod scene was tiny comparitivly for a very long time

Also, while complaining about aim assist is completely valid in the case of Apex due to rotational aim assist being a stupid idea, don't get caught in the mental trap of blaming their crutch to overlook a personal error

[viscid wraith]

And infinites aim assist is probably one of the most balanced among popular games ATM, mnk has the overall mechanical advantage

[viscid wraith]

And as tak already pointed out, don't fall into this lol

If they don't miss, you just can't miss either

Skill issue 5head don't get depressed cause it's in human nature to take the path of least resistance to achieve what we perceive as levels of success

Also just as an add-on don't kid yourself that picking up a controller magically makes the worst player insane. There are loads of completely dogshit controller players. I played highish level roller for years, there's still some learning involved (albeit significantly less considering aim assist brings their starting point above that of the casual mnk player)

Hehe text dump

[mellow kestrel]

my man was MOVING

[viscid wraith]

storm points rat spots are just stupid lmao https://clips.twitch.tv/NiceHorribleCarabeefTBTacoRight-e7l7PUOV30oNkEmc

[lost harbor]

if only i could move like that more often lmao

[mellow kestrel]

You gotta be able to hit a shot when doing it though, compared to that dude

[grim ibex]

hello am new to fps games

i got kovaaks

i dont know if i should put time into

valorant or apex

[viscid wraith]

2 completely different games with very different overall aiming styles generally assigned to them - most of this chat doesnt particularly like val, and if you asked val a lot of them probably dont like apex

10k hrs in tac fps like val, just put 2k into movement shooters - personally i hate tac fps now

but thats an opinion, try them both out see what you like

[mellow kestrel]

tac fps is 💤

[viscid wraith]

unfortunately apex is apex tho >.>

[mellow kestrel]

yeah

i put like 3k into CS

[viscid wraith]

never thot id hear myself considering recommending people play destiny and halo for "movement shooters" kekw

[mellow kestrel]

[viscid wraith]

if destiny had an actual ranked system id prob not have come back to apex ngl

and the ability to toggle bullet magnetism

[grim ibex]

ill play anything

[viscid wraith]

then play everything? if youre new theres zero downside to just testing stuff out

just go to first person shooter category on steam, sort by popularity or whatever, and if it says free download it and play it for a day or two

my opinions on whats good and whats not are based on putting hours into basically everything to some degree, i know what i like

[grim ibex]

okay making apex account now

[hoary hamlet]

ehh

[grim ibex]

whos a good legend

and good gun s

[viscid wraith]

to start

whoever looks cool

and whatever you can shoot straight with

[grim ibex]

okay

[viscid wraith]

if youre brand new to fps dont trouble yourself with meta

focus on learning

also try not to get discouraged if you get shit on a lot at first, this games been out for a long time

[grim ibex]

i went bloodhound

[grim ibex]

game is super hard

i like bloodhound

[mellow kestrel]

mousepad recommendations? preferrably one that doesnt wear out in a month

[wintry scroll]

aqua control +

any color works

[mellow kestrel]

i want the raiden but its not in stock anywhere here, id have to buy from amazon

alright

does it have coating or no?

[wintry scroll]

the pure white/black version has no coating, the ROB version has coating but it hasnt worn out after a few months (my experience)

so id assume coating or not is negligible

[mellow kestrel]

okay, tyvm

i have a g640 that is super worn out

previously had a QcK

how would you compare it in terms of speed to the g640 or qck? @wintry scroll

if you've tried any of the ones i mentioned

[viscid wraith]

+1 for ac+, fantastic pad lots of people love it

[wintry scroll]

nah i havent tried those, sorry

[mellow kestrel]

all good, thx again :)

oh, forgot to ask

how does it deal with humidity?

my g640 becomes really sluggish once the air gets a bit humid

[wintry scroll]

pad is really consistent, humidity doesnt affect it

[mellow kestrel]

niceee

[grim ibex]

wow getting to level 10

is hard

after first game i am dying as soon as i land

[viscid wraith]

battle royale moment https://streamable.com/ak4jfp

landed on a barrel stab and a sniper mag

[late ridge]

just stab them with the barrel stab

[viscid wraith]

damn today apex session is just amazing

just died to a masters controller with blatant wallhacks

nice

[mellow kestrel]

@wintry scroll @viscid wraith

fuck it 💯

[viscid wraith]

pog

[wintry scroll]

lets gooooooooo

[mellow kestrel]

i went for it boys, thx for help

[mellow kestrel]

same happened to me earlier

controller r301 from like 50m

prefire oneclipped me instantly even if i did a fat 180 tapstrafe

didnt miss a bullet

[viscid wraith]

he had car, was literally shooting at people behind walls

wasnt even trying to hide it

[mellow kestrel]

prob bought account

[viscid wraith]

didnt have aimbot cause he couldnt use TT

didnt miss with car tho

lmao

im gonna have to start playing fill

fuck

no fill is just

i cant even have fun anymore

[mellow kestrel]

yeah sometimes you just need a meatshield

[grim ibex]

getting the hang of it

crazy pack!

would anyone like to squad up

[alpine trail]

just bought some tiger ice skates😈

[little verge]

2 or 3?

[mellow kestrel]

2 or 3 what

@little verge

[little verge]

I just reread it, nevermind lol. I'm just a fucking idiot.

That's what I get for checking discord when I wake up.

[muted ruin]

Nice cop @mellow kestrel

[mellow kestrel]

it happens

[mellow kestrel]

ty, lets hope it gets here before 2022

[little verge]

AC+ is a good pad. Bit too grippy for my taste lately, but really good.

[viscid wraith]

had to find something to do while storm point was in rotation

https://streamable.com/hiqq52

https://streamable.com/4e0kdb

[mellow kestrel]

bro

goated game

[viscid wraith]

ngl that recoil ts was kinda saucy

i redownload every once in a while but unfortunately its barely playable

[mellow kestrel]

yeah

[viscid wraith]

was my first shooter ever

big memories

[mellow kestrel]

def top 3 cods ever

my fav for multiplayer would prob be mw2

[viscid wraith]

bo1, bo2, one of the mws

[mellow kestrel]

but the zombies in bo1 is so nice too

[viscid wraith]

zombies made me

literally

lol

[mellow kestrel]

mw3 wasn't bad either

[viscid wraith]

i was at my uncles house and he had a 360 with bo1 and i would watch or play splitscreen kino with him

when i got home i immediately downloaded the bo1 trial and saved up for a copy lmao

[mellow kestrel]

i used to play splitscreen kino with my cousin on his 360 too

fun times

[viscid wraith]

i think i play the yamantau hudson mission 50+ times easily just because i replayed the trial over and over

the tiny playerbase thats left is too many boomers, i got booted for hacking shortly after this lmao https://streamable.com/jyps55

at least bo2 is playable with plutonium, i dont think that kind of thing exists for bo1

new gen gamers dont know how good they have it man lmao

i lived on the bo1 and reach trials for ages

reach esp cause it had 1 campaign mission and a multiplayer playlist

[fair trellis]

can recommend the mpc 450 or the larger sizes, over a year later and it still feels the same as when i bought it

[mellow kestrel]

just ordered an AC+

[fair trellis]

ye thats a good choice too

[mortal shell]

It’s def better than warzone but if MKB is better is up for debate

Tbh the only real way to tell is how the pro scene develops

If past halos are any indication such as the MCC, it’s not looking good for mouse users

[viscid wraith]

its literally not tho, several pro players that are quite capable on both inputs have said the same thing. albralelie has been quite vocal about it actually

[mortal shell]

Just got mine!

[viscid wraith]

i will admit i am dissapointed it has rotational aim assist

but unfortunately that horrible trend appears to be staying in gaming

[mortal shell]

Like I said, we’ll see how it develops, some of the aim assist that gravitates towards heads is a bit ridiculous

[little verge]

The only reason Halo's AA isn't as stupid is because at least there's a semblance of input based matchmaking.

[mortal shell]

It’s been demonstrated on stream by XQC and a few other people; not sure if you’ve seen it yet

[little verge]

But yeah, rotational aim assist as a concept needs to go. It raises the skill floor too considerably.

[mortal shell]

Honestly in close ranges vs pc players it’s immediately noticeable that they’re not on controller

[viscid wraith]

ive seen how much AA pulls on halo. i played both controller and mnk for a day each

[mortal shell]

Cause they actually can miss shots when you’re spazzing out going 60 mph in their face

[mortal shell]

Agrees

@viscid wraith there’s a bug on pc

Where if you input with your mouse/keyboard at all

Once you start your game

It detects your input as MKB and removes aim assist

https://twitter.com/Snip3down/status/1441288025200218117?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1441288025200218117|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FSnip3down2Fstatus2F1441288025200218117widget%3DTweet

TSM FTX Snip3down (@Snip3down)

Ok @Halo I'm going to need an explanation https://t.co/afBfcdiVy8

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Look how ridiculous the magnetism is

[viscid wraith]

wow

i was completely unaware of this

[mortal shell]

That’s likely what happened; you prob didn’t even have aim assist and thought it was normal

[viscid wraith]

my opinion is invalid then i guess as i navigate all menus with mouse

[mortal shell]

That video was disgusting lol 😅

[viscid wraith]

so its just slightly toned down apex AA

with more range

ew

damn i guess im still a crackhead on controller then i was top fragging without AA lmao

[mortal shell]

Dang nice lol

[iron dragon]

i'm pretty sure that was already fixed tho

[mortal shell]

That Kovaaks paying off

[mortal shell]

AFAIK it was still an issue like 4 days ago so idk

I just started halo last 2 days tbh, haven’t plugged in a controller yet,

[viscid wraith]

i played roller on it 4 days ago i think

i wouldve noticed if it felt like apex levels

[iron dragon]

waiting for game devs to flip the switch for anticheat linux support

cant even vaaks on linux

[mighty brook]

https://streamable.com/1q5ode

[viscid wraith]

[fair trellis]

pov: me playing nofill

[grim ibex]

unlucky!

[mellow kestrel]

what kind of bot lobbies are you in lmao

when my acc was new i got pred lobbies after like my first game

[viscid wraith]

hes brand new to fps games apparently

[grim ibex]

im trying to hit level 1-

10

[hoary hamlet]

seems to be farming

[grim ibex]

i spent money

this game is very fun

queue times are very long

in ranked

[burnt stone]

It do be bronze

[grim ibex]

no one in bronzer?

[burnt stone]

There is no deranking in this game, and you can't lose rp in bronze

[burnt stone]

So once you make it out which is nearly impossible not to do so, you can't get back in

[grim ibex]

ah nice

i won my first ranked game

[deep linden]

6 ranked arenas in a row and this was the hardest match

[grim ibex]

why am i getting gold games

in bronze

[urban tapir]

seraph your team full?

[pure ice]

bronze to gold basically same rank

gold is a bit harder to get through than silver and bronze but still easy

[grim ibex]

any good routines

[alpine trail]

not that good but i finally beat my damage record

[grim ibex]

how do i lfg

i would like a team

[pure ice]

U could do it here or in Apex official

[grim ibex]

are benchmarks good

[pure ice]

?

The crafting benches?

[grim ibex]

like worth playing

voltaic

[runic relic]

you guys ever just kick people through a door?

[alpine trail]

the crafting benches

[alpine trail]

yeah

[grim ibex]

silver is harder

but teammates are worse

[slender sierra]

anyone down for ranked

[muted ruin]

ive done it once or twice. pretty trippy when it happens.

[viscid wraith]

lmao sweet just letting rpr vent in vc right now is funny

hes just straight malding

[grim ibex]

just had two teammates refuse to help me

because they said i was cheating

[viscid wraith]

bruh ur frying kids, nice

drop some clips show progress

[grim ibex]

what do you use to clip

[viscid wraith]

obs replay buffer, nvidia shadowplay

[grim ibex]

i am hardstuck s4

right now

[muted ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm5wXHGozro

this would be sick

[grim ibex]

i got an ape team!

the ash had a 20 kill badge and 4000 damage badge

[viscid wraith]

mnk player detected kekw https://streamable.com/k92woh

[grim ibex]

should i use the same website you did

for clips

[viscid wraith]

you can

i use it cause some of my clips the file size is too large to upload directly to discord

[slender sierra]

what yall think

[grim ibex]

https://streamable.com/ilqi6l
https://streamable.com/vv1p0g
https://streamable.com/zm77sk
https://streamable.com/kl3ekd

i dont know

what is good to clip

[viscid wraith]

so whatd you play before apex

cause youre trolling dude lmao

[grim ibex]

dota 2

[viscid wraith]

youre either a prodigy or trolling on an aim cord for kicks my guy

[alpine trail]

those were all fine to clip imo

[viscid wraith]

your mechanics are quite nice

[mellow kestrel]

pretty good, i sense some capping but regardless

you have good fundamentals

work on smoothness and learn the game and you'll be solid 👍

[grim ibex]

you guys are so nice

i will work on smoothness

should i do that in kovaaks

[alpine trail]

ye

[grim ibex]

what tasks

[mellow kestrel]

would recommend doing that yes as apex has too much downtime

you'll spend 99% of your time doing nothing if you're trying to get better smoothness purely by playing apex

[slender sierra]

@alpine trail you care to join me in apex

[grim ibex]

https://streamable.com/bn88gb
https://streamable.com/8c9smm

[alpine trail]

[grim ibex]

having a hard time ranking up

[viscid wraith]

uh huh

[mighty brook]

dang man ur pretty good for someone bullshitting

[grim ibex]

i would like to be better

[fair trellis]

well you arent as good as you think you are

but yes enjoy the lobbies

[mighty brook]

^

[grim ibex]

i think im bad

thats the issue

[mighty brook]

then play

[grim ibex]

are there any apex community discords

with good players

to help me

[viscid wraith]

battlecord is prob the only one worth joining

[mellow kestrel]

almost 1v2'd last sadge

[grim ibex]

is arena worth playing

[mellow kestrel]

its basically just 3v3 BR with a buy menu

[grim ibex]

should i watch this tournament

[viscid wraith]

apparently theyre not localizing servers properly or something

lot of the pros are pretty pissed about it lol

[grim ibex]

this guy is good

[alpine trail]

not playing rn :p

[muted ruin]

Most likely a controller player or a cheater, Either way no skill.

Yooo

I get overpay for my job on Black Friday

Hells yes

[grim ibex]

I tried to replace the mouse skates on my gpx

Fucked new ones up

Now I can’t use it until Tuesday

(:

[burnt stone]

pain

[grim ibex]

nvm i didnt fuck the feet up

its my pad

[mighty brook]

https://streamable.com/8eb3if

[grim ibex]

gosu

[pure ice]

Wtf

130 kills in ur first day??

Good shit

Absolutely frying

[astral pebble]

what the fuck

it takes me like half a year to get 130 kills

what chinese aimbot do you have

[pure ice]

LOL

[alpine trail]

new tech to learn. skip reloading, speeds up reloading by a lot.

testing it now, only really applies to some guns. it's supposed to reduce rampage reload by 50% but it feels the same.

def works for r99 tho

oh well, guess it only works on r99.

anyone pubs?

[alpine trail]

damn

[muted ruin]

definitely seems like something that is more of a hastle to pull off than just getting better positioning to reload IMO

[alpine trail]

true

i dont think its worth it for most people to learn it tbh

[storm oasis]

lfg cracked players to breeze through plat na dm

[alpine trail]

It's worth learning if you're an R99 main. You should always be tac reloading (reloading before 0), and if you holster during a fight mid-reload to get a slide jump in, you can just hold down crouch when pulling out your weapon, and you'll get to shoot like half a second earlier.

Couldn't find any other weapons it worked on. So it's only an R99 thing maybe.

[viscid wraith]

Pretty sure he's memeing

That or he's a prodigy lol

[alpine trail]

ye most likely smurfing

[pure ice]

No he's pro player

[wintry scroll]

why do u guys care so much LMAOOOOO

[mighty brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAxSJpv0KUc just died to this chad

[willow mirage]

just hit masters with silver voltaic scores

easy

[mighty brook]

how?!??!?!?!?!

aim is eveyrthting??

hello?

[iron valley]

best scenarios for ratting?

[mighty brook]

jumbo tile frenzy jumbo jumbo

[wintry scroll]

congrats dude

[muted ruin]

kovaaks scores =/= skilled or unskilled player

[willow mirage]

thats the joke

[muted ruin]

there was a joke

sorry man its been one of them days

im brain fuzzy rn

[willow mirage]

you're alright man

[viscid wraith]

Don't care that much it's just entertaining lol

[wintry scroll]

ah i was overreacting xd

[viscid wraith]

Ig dota 2 is best aim trainer

[alpine trail]

typical regen

[wintry scroll]

yeah sorry about that

[alpine trail]

Heavy mouse + Skypad 2.0 feels good actually, wtf.

[viscid wraith]

Not very often I see a random montage and am impressed enough to sub, that was fuckin dope

[alpine trail]

Starlight 12 S + Skypad = bad
G305 + Glorious 3XL = bad

G305 + Skypad = great

[wintry scroll]

yeah hes like a mini aimbot

[viscid wraith]

Man makes me want to go back to 28cm tomorrow

I been low sens for a fatty anyway need to go back to cycling my range

[mighty brook]

i thought it was some bum that got lucky

but nahhes actually good

for once

lmfao

[grim ibex]

got first jade score

[viscid wraith]

How long have you been using kovaaks?

Congrats

[urban tapir]

the fuck

[viscid wraith]

Lol had a feeling

It's a troll account

Wonder who it is hmm

[muted ruin]

wait holy shit hes insane

[proven pulsar]

[muted ruin]

mfw silver aim

id suck some mad dick for aim and movement like his

i wonder his cm/360 because it looks high asf.

[alpine trail]

hope they nerf octane to the ground lmao

[grim ibex]

im watching all of his other videos

hes insane

[muted ruin]

ik dude is absurdly good at the game

[grim ibex]

what is a good cm

[honest heron]

AHHHHH

i play on 10cm/360 but that's unusually high so idk

[muted ruin]

im on 30/360 rn

[honest heron]

i would go lower but i have a tiny ass pad

[mighty brook]

superglide macros are for losers, only use 180 macros https://streamable.com/iqe3s1

[grim ibex]

what fov

[honest heron]

playing on anything less than 120 feels weird

[alpine trail]

@muted ruin@viscid wraiththe guy is on toggle aim too

[honest heron]

toggle aim gang

[muted ruin]

you good

you need some love

[lost harbor]

man i used to be on toggle

but im on the hold life now

[honest heron]

i tried hold

but it felt really weird

im not good enough for the difference to matter anyway

[mighty brook]

cant use toggle

extra work

[honest heron]

holding aim throws me off

prob cos i've always used toggle on pc

[lost harbor]

i played toggle since i was 14 in all games

and it took 20 min in firing range

to swap to hold

[honest heron]

maybe i will try it

[lost harbor]

just takes some practice if u want it

[honest heron]

idk

my keybinds are kinda cursed

q to swap weapons

tf2 moment

[mighty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-travis-scott-apology-gif-23729204

[honest heron]

tac and ult on mouse buttons cos im too lazy to move my fingers

[muted ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWXy6f9aB8 me when aim is

[viscid wraith]

Played toggle for a day, my wingman was insane but tracking felt weird

Reminded me of playing cs again

[alpine trail]

got a noreg on wingding. feels bad

[iron valley]

it took me less than a day to get used to toggle

i like how i tense less on toggle

[dreamy spade]

he already is lmao

[alpine trail]

even more

[dreamy spade]

or

dont

[alpine trail]

bring back release octane

so dogshit that you were basically commiting suicide if you played him

[dreamy spade]

octane hater cringe

i mean i wouldve rather them nerf his pad to 2 minutes and made the audio loud af but nah they had to nerf basically everything else

[alpine trail]

Just hate his stim basically giving him godmode

Shit servers make it so you get no regs while he's AD strafing

[dreamy spade]

just hit him

[alpine trail]

And you can't see him because of the green trail

[dreamy spade]

sounds like a skill issue, just look harder

[alpine trail]

Sounds like you abuse Octane too

[dreamy spade]

u bet i did. stim go brrrrrrrrr

[alpine trail]

Can't wait for him to get nerfed again

[dreamy spade]

i always like the stim and regen more then pad tho

he wont

[alpine trail]

if he does, that's good. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dreamy spade]

he's fine

[alpine trail]

Ye popping stim to not have a hitbox is fine

[dreamy spade]

he is unironically not an issue anymore especially with pad audio

[mighty brook]

yeah nah playing octane isnt viable anymore

[dreamy spade]

this is a u problem. the only time stim is a problem is when u mix it with shit like tap strafing and the wallclimb speedboost thing to get extra stupid hitbox shit and that happens regardless he justm akes it worse

[mighty brook]

genuinely not a good legend anymore

tbh

nobody uses him in comp

[dreamy spade]

plus like -20 to got a bit faster? yeah im good lmao

[mighty brook]

ash replaced octane the second the season started

[alpine trail]

^ all justification to leave in a broken hitbox abusing champ, got it.

[dreamy spade]

or

maybe

[mighty brook]

ive never had a problem hitting him

[dreamy spade]

its a netcode problem

and not a character issue

[alpine trail]

Nerf him til netcode is fixed. Easy.

[dreamy spade]

also i have never had a problem hitting stimming octane this is a u problem

[alpine trail]

Still worth nerfing

[mighty brook]

so let me get this right

u want this to be his hitbox?

[dreamy spade]

the only hitbox i had hitting was old wraith and old swiss cheese pathfinder. but after they gave her low profile and increased her hitbox a bit legit never have had a problem with any legend

[alpine trail]

Nah, just double health drain of stim

[mighty brook]

that would be...

the end of octane?

[alpine trail]

just realized

[mighty brook]

tak

[dreamy spade]

throwback to the hardcore crouch only bo1 servers

[alpine trail]

good

[mighty brook]

thats 3 years older than me u lunatic

[alpine trail]

Preferred octane on release

nonexistent passive, useless pad, killyourself stim

my steam profile is 3 years older than you euphoria?

[dreamy spade]

a 18 y/o steam profile u mustve gotten it for half life release

[alpine trail]

Just cause he's not picked in comp doesn't make him less annoying in pubs.

[mighty brook]

yes thats ridiculous

[muted ruin]

2 yrs older than me

[alpine trail]

feelsoldman

[dreamy spade]

how old r u

[alpine trail]

25

[dreamy spade]

FUCK YEAH IM 24 GET OUTTA HERE BOOMER IM NOT THE OLDEST

[alpine trail]

[mighty brook]

yall both old ass people

actual ancient figures

[dreamy spade]

shut up dont remind me

[mighty brook]

sorry

[dreamy spade]

let me laugh at the nearly my age but slightly older person here to make me feel better

[fair trellis]

you are going to be haunted by this moment once you get to your boomer years

[little verge]

All these kids thinking they're old, you're not even old enough to wake up sore from sleeping funny!

[mighty brook]

take that back

i will never be old

[fair trellis]

no

[dreamy spade]

ive had that happen wdym

[mighty brook]

yo is this ur pad

[honest heron]

yes

[alpine trail]

@viscid wraith skypad 2.0 good for tracking.

z

[honest heron]

Here's the actual pad

Some random thing no idea what

I need a bigger desk LOL

[alpine trail]

Make or buy one

Good desk goes a long way.

[honest heron]

yes...thats the idea

i just havent bothered to buy a new one yet

[alpine trail]

also want more mouse room? Put keyboard on top shelf.

[honest heron]

not enough space

[alpine trail]

Or put nightstand on left side, and put keyboard on nightstand so you have the entire drawer for your mouse.

or just tilt keyboard 90

[honest heron]

that monitor doesnt go any further back

tilting the board doesnt give me any extra space

i just need a bigger desk

[fair trellis]

are you ducking on the floor or something

your pc case is as tall as the desk lmao

[honest heron]

im in a shitty office chair

[muted ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562v6VOaCYs

bro

this guy is a menace

[honest heron]

i have enough space on my pad

i just need a bigger pad to play on a lower sens

but im fine on this sens anyway so idk if i'll switch

[fair trellis]

lets see some 1x wingman long range clips then

[honest heron]

im as blind as a bat i cant see shit with a 1x

[fair trellis]

glasses?

[honest heron]

exaggerating but yea

my target acquisition at long range is pretty bad

if i can see the damn mf i can probably hit em

[fair trellis]

you might be limited by your sens with 1x guns at mid to long range

[honest heron]

idk, maybe

[fair trellis]

quite likely even

[honest heron]

weirdly the sens doesnt feel that high in game

but the same settings in kvk feel reallllllly weird

[deep linden]

I love Octane but in his current state, he's not even viable against people that can actually hit their shots. Pop that stim while having a purple and you're easily two-tapped by a PK

[honest heron]

i usually just use 1-2x or 2x anyway, i dont really touch 1x unless i dont have any other options

[fair trellis]

that looks hilarious idk how people tap strafe mid fight while also looking at the enemy straight on

dude is on crack

[honest heron]

octane is viable if you're on meth

[muted ruin]

ikr

[deep linden]

The reason why Octane was made was to pay homage to the speedrunners of Titanfall

[honest heron]

i gotta remember to record smh

[muted ruin]

dudes a menace

[honest heron]

half the time i forget and the other half instant replay isnt even on

[deep linden]

That's why his legs are blown off: People ran the Gauntlet by using the frag grenade blast to boost their initial speed before hitting the trigger that starts the timer for the Gauntlet

I dunno why anyone would want Octane to be nerfed to the ground when his kit is actually in a decent state

[honest heron]

cope, thats why

[deep linden]

True

[honest heron]

he seems pretty balanced to me

[alpine trail]

Just hate how netcode makes him impossible to fight sometimes. Would rather deal with a Gibby or Loba or Valk when code is being bad

[muted ruin]

Nah fuck gibby

+50 hp is busted

[alpine trail]

Yea, would rather shoot the meatshield character than try and shoot a teleporting godmoded menace.

[deep linden]

Gibby + 50HP and needs more bullets to kill is shittier to deal with than a stimmed Octane that's basically CFSI

[alpine trail]

would rather fight this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08bF3bIRya8&t=742s

than fight octane

[honest heron]

never experienced bad hitreg

[alpine trail]

his trail is green too, so that's a big slap to colorblind people

[honest heron]

owned

[alpine trail]

man pops stim and hits the AD strafe?

He's now a cloud.

tracking feels a lot better on skypad now, which is dope. but don't wanna keep using g305 on skypad forever. really like the starlight 12, but its aids on skypad.

[viscid wraith]

I have zero problems hitting octane, primary no regs usually are on path rev ash

[deep linden]

I also have zero problems hitting a stimmed Octane + tap strafing

[little verge]

Yeah, I'd rather fight stimmed Octane than any Gibby. I've lost more fights to running out of bullets because Gibby tanks too much than unable to track stim.

If I had a dollar for any sustained fight where a Gibby last second got back his arm shield for the second or third time, I could afford to retire.

[honest heron]

+50hp, 15% less dmg, very cool respawn

[alpine trail]

It rarely comes up now, because people stopped playing Octane in pubs on Stormpoint. But when it happens on World's Edge, it's fucked.

Cloud of green shooting at you that takes 0 dmg.

Very nice, Respawn.

[honest heron]

sounds like cope to me

[deep linden]

LOL

[alpine trail]

You wouldn't understand, cause you prolly ain't colorblind

[honest heron]

[deep linden]

I didn't even hit most of my shots and I still won that

[honest heron]

mans had the jump on you and everything

how did he lose

[iron valley]

More time in tile frenzy obvs

[honest heron]

lmfao

[muted ruin]

bro

the local 12 news

subs to me

?!?1

[honest heron]

based???

[muted ruin]

LMAO

BRO

?

[viscid wraith]

Where the fcuk are you getting clouds of green lmao pretty sure graphics on low removes particle blur

[honest heron]

even on high i have never seen such clouds

its a small trail

[muted ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkp5P6gF7kw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWXy6f9aB8 aight boys i need opinions on which motion blur looks better

[honest heron]

neither

mo blur cringe

[viscid wraith]

Also being colorblind to a.color is completely irrelevant to that problem if it exists...

[honest heron]

but second

[lost harbor]

^^^

can't hit octane? skill issue

[viscid wraith]

Outside of.no regs the only character that can honestly give practically anyone trouble is lifeline head bob

Hitboxes in a good state atm

[lost harbor]

yeah

octane is perfectly balanced if not slightly underpowered rn

[viscid wraith]

Yep

[lost harbor]

in rank people at higher levels are playing ash instead of him

[honest heron]

cant think of any legends that are blatantly op atm

[lost harbor]

and also what made him strong was stim+eva 8

but eva 8 got nerfed into the ground

[viscid wraith]

You can't brain dead stim, pad is useful but loud , his passive is negligible 99% of the time

[lost harbor]

if u actually think octane needs a nerf ur fucking braindead

aim better lmao

stop shooting when he tap strafes

[viscid wraith]

Or just shoot when he tap strages and track him

[iron valley]

yea i dont see how double hp drain stim would make sense

[honest heron]

hm, today i am going to attempt to hit a target moving at very high speed and complain when i cant

[lost harbor]

also u can literally practice fighting octane in firing range 1v1s

if i ever feel like i struggle to track him, i get a friend to 1v1 me octane stim

[viscid wraith]

Tap strafe octane is basically aa4 lmao

[honest heron]

most octanes arent hard to deal with

[lost harbor]

and it's a non issue after like 5 minutes

[honest heron]

except for the crackheads

[lost harbor]

those crackheads like aimbot could break ur ankles on gibby anyway

[honest heron]

ya

[lost harbor]

actually this is lowkey insane shotgun warmup

i did an octane stim pk 1v1 before my last ranked session

and i was hitting every pk shot

in game

[clever sleet]

aimbot is the messiah of this channel

[lost harbor]

fr

genuinely inspirational player

[alpine trail]

Dunno, but had a fight earlier where the Octane just AD'd and his trail overlapped him. Very disorienting when colorblind

[alpine trail]

Good idea

[alpine trail]

No one's touching Ash and Octane though. It's Valk Gibby Caustic.

[lost harbor]

ranked not algs/comp

and even then i saw several ash players in algs

across regions

sentinels runs senoxe on ash/wraith

crazy raccoon was playing ash gib blood

i think several other teams had game with ash

[alpine trail]

Bangalore headbob would like a word. Even when downed, her headbob will make you miss headshots.

[hoary hamlet]

went from octane main to wraith main now

[lost harbor]

used to main both, now it's wraith/blood

have wraith/octane heirlooms too, wish i used the second shards for blood heirloom

[hoary hamlet]

level 405 still no heirloom

my luck is soo bad

[alpine trail]

iirc

you need like level 2000ish

for f2p heirloom

without rng

[hoary hamlet]

hm

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-tears-broken-gif-15062040

[honest heron]

Friend of mine got one at level 60

I'm furious

[hoary hamlet]

same

my man got gibby nd mains him

[lost harbor]

approximately 500usd and i got lucky with 2 heirloom shards

[hoary hamlet]

no way am i spending 1.5k on a game

[hoary hamlet]

rather get laptop stuff

upgrades *

[honest heron]

I'm not gonna bother buying packs

[lost harbor]

tbf i paid zero for it because i bought the packs with my csgo gloves

[alpine trail]

laptop stand with fan underneath

[honest heron]

If it happens it happens

[hoary hamlet]

damm

[hoary hamlet]

i have a standing fan blowing air while i game lmao

[alpine trail]

oh shit, thinking back, you coulda just spammed accounts back in Season 0 and gotten free 10 packs each acc

[hoary hamlet]

the coolpad did nothing

[alpine trail]

With the 1000 coin command.

[hoary hamlet]

painge

[alpine trail]

That's 10 packs for each acc you make

And you just cycle t hem until you get heirloom

Too mch work to make accs tho

[hoary hamlet]

it is too much work

[lost harbor]

yeah at this point

just pray for rng

or shell the cash out

[hoary hamlet]

rng it is

never gonna be cash

i'll keep cracking my knuckles <.<

[lost harbor]

[magic juniper]

R301 was going dummy

[clever sleet]

big damage brotha

[dreamy spade]

I did the math and ill get one in 4 seasons with only having bought the battlepass(and done the extra stuff like treasure packs and arena challenges) so fucking ez 😎

This definitly isnt a cope cause its not like i know multiple people who have gotten heirlooms on 2 accounts from rng. yeah definitely not a cope

[honest heron]

Kinda wanna get the blood heirloom so I can scare the shit out of people as I am hunting them down

[viscid wraith]

Spent a couple hundred s0 for spinny knife, quit end of s1 came back s8 and got my 2nd last season thru BP and lvl packs

[honest heron]

Axe wielding wallhacking mfer

[dreamy spade]

i also have an account at lvl 124 too

still no heirloom

[fair trellis]

running away from bh's

fucking scan

[honest heron]

Can't escape the hound

That's the best part of playing bh honestly

Having enemy squads pissing themselves and running away

[alpine trail]

it was*

The command doesn't work anymore

[fair trellis]

i prefer those bhs instead of the ones that scan and play like a turret

they wait for the scan cd literall

[honest heron]

For sure

[hoary hamlet]

ahh yea

[alpine trail]

It gave you 1000 coins when you add the launch commands into your Origin account

Which you could spend on 950 battle pass (not released yet)

Or buy 10 packs

most people bought 10 packs

Probably could've just made 100 accounts, enter the code, and get an heirloom and sell for $300 for free labor

[honest heron]

What if you
Wanted to loot barometer
But bloodhound said
I BATHE IN THE BLOOD

[fair trellis]

i will shit blood and honor the allfather

[honest heron]

Worst bhs are the ones that insta counter scan u

Hate those mfs

[alpine trail]

BHs that rat

And don't scan ever.

Wait for last 3 squads

[honest heron]

Lmaoooo

[alpine trail]

Scan both teams, get insta focused, die.