apex

[bright elm]

you practice it with the focus of practicing it

practicing mechanical skill is different than developing game sense in a way where the more you play the game, you'll develop the game sense

you won't improve your mechanical skill by mindlessly playing

[solar bison]

👁️

[bright elm]

[magic juniper]

I come from a fighting game background so I'm very supportive of isolation learning. However in every game there are insane talents who skip it entirely and dominate. I'm curious what are your takes and if that happens in Apex

[solar bison]

Hello qheutie

Damn wtf

On br?

[magic juniper]

For example every time Taisheen is asked if he practices outside the game he straight up says no and to play the game more

[burnt stone]

kristian would you agree that the difference between having good game sense and not having good game sense is just a matter of getting through a knowledge checkpoint

[solar bison]

Did you get clips!?

[bright elm]

yeah

anyone can develop good gamesense

[dusky summit]

interesting

[solar bison]

:(

[bright elm]

it's just a matter of learning the different pieces of information as well as the fundamental thinking skills

[solar bison]

You did I know it

[bright elm]

you can improve by just playing the game

but it's not fast

compared to isolation practice

in game

[solar bison]

You say they all suck

[burnt stone]

time spent in other games or watching other players can skip through things, depending on certain takes too you may develope good or bad habits without knowing as well

[bright elm]

it's the reason why aim trainers exist

[solar bison]

When they're good

[bright elm]

aim trainers allow you to isolate your mouse movements

[dusky summit]

wat is isolation practice

oh for aim?

[solar bison]

Okay let's see

[bright elm]

mechanical skill in general

[burnt stone]

any mechanical skill

[magic juniper]

Thanks for the responses guys. I figured the same

[bright elm]

anything that isn't considered game sense

[burnt stone]

like going into 1v1s or firing range with the sole purpose of learning mirroring/anti mirroring or movement tech

is isolated practice

[bright elm]

before i go, ill post an old clip

[bright elm]

np

[dusky summit]

oh

[dusky summit]

is there a way i can isolate practice solo

movement / mechanics

[burnt stone]

actually tackled

[solar bison]

The kill was nice but not worth because you got gang banged after

😭

[burnt stone]

yes

[magic juniper]

Nice clip but now you're whiffing?

[burnt stone]

all movement tech can be practiced in firing range

all strafes can be practiced in firing range with the exception of not being able to actually fight while doing it or getting feedback from another players perspective

[solar bison]

I legit can't target switch this fast

Gm complete switching for nothing

Okay

[bright elm]

sounds like u need speed training in game

[solar bison]

Yeah I probably do

[dusky summit]

but like 1v1 scenario i mean

[burnt stone]

i'm not excited for doing air in kovaaks

fuck

[magic juniper]

@burnt stone can you give an example of training strafes in firing range?

[solar bison]

There's some massive issue with my aim in games

[dusky summit]

like is there a kovaak mode or anything that can help practice movement

[bright elm]

no.

there's movement scenarios which you can utilize to practice strafe aiming, but it's better to practice in the actual game

[magic juniper]

I practice big beams while doing simple left to right and right to left strafes

[proven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-difference-in-skill-meme-dog-gif-22631267

[burnt stone]

air strafes with shot guns, or take an smg and aim at a targets head and do short/long strafes while remaining accurate, add in crouches as well

it's more limited then when you have a player with you

[magic juniper]

I don't really have a dueling strafe routine though besides going left right left and right left right with the EVA

[burnt stone]

but you have things to think about

[magic juniper]

@burnt stone thanks

[burnt stone]

it's more like knowing how you move and not cucking your aim, making a hard to track pattern is okay but not necessary

a lot of players have that issue

and while it gets fixed with enough time playing

[magic juniper]

Oh interesting

[burnt stone]

it can get fixed much much much sooner just with a little practice

[magic juniper]

Right game time matters a lot

[burnt stone]

i cringe whenever someone ad/ads on a still or long range target

and misses easy shots

[magic juniper]

Easy excuse: no regs

[burnt stone]

or when they mirror and keeping moving the mouse trying to track

painge

[bright elm]

a common mistake unfortunately ^^

[magic juniper]

Interesting. Is this something people actively think post-duels? Like I could have matched the enemy movement better

[burnt stone]

@bright elm look at this clip i'm posting

[burnt stone]

reflecting on what happened is how you improve game sense and mechanically

i feel like i utilized ashs abilities perfectly here to escape

q just far enough they can't ult chase

[bright elm]

u so smooth with how you move your camera

can't be me

[magic juniper]

Going back to kristian's point is mirror/anti-mirror movement something that can be learned through game time? I agree isolation practice is key especially if you don't have gobs of talent or prior game xp

[solar bison]

not me.....

[dusky summit]

figured

[burnt stone]

[solar bison]

oh asher

[burnt stone]

yes and no

you can learn it

[solar bison]

I have a clip

where I die like an idiot

[magic juniper]

@burnt stone beautiful sprints in between shots to get cover and force whiffs

[burnt stone]

but just like aim training in game vs in kovaaks

you can get better practice in vaaks imo

[burnt stone]

this clip could have been so insane

[bright elm]

anti-mirroring/mirroring is a universal skill so technically you can practice it anywhere, but it's better if you practice it in your game of choice as it'll allow you to recognize acceleration and how the player model moves left/right

[magic juniper]

I love doing that with the mastiff especially 180 flicks to travel backwards but usually I only need to bust out the side strafes between shots

[bright elm]

rip

[magic juniper]

nt

Ash giving you that b180 voltaic with the wall jump

[bright elm]

besides, zac the tracc god himself said it's better to practice strafe aiming in your game of choice

iirc from one of the voltaic streams

[burnt stone]

clip dump time

[solar bison]

https://streamable.com/b7res9

@burnt stone

I have a bad habit of jumping when I use shotguns

[magic juniper]

BH hit that report fast af

[bright elm]

clip dump clip dump clip dump clip dump clip dump clip dump clip dump clip dump

oh wrong game

[bright elm]

ayo wtf

[burnt stone]

jumping isn't bad if you know how to air strafe or don't spam

just crouch instead

[bright elm]

[solar bison]

I think i got a no reg

at the end

[magic juniper]

Yeah you shouldn't really jump unless you need it as a surprise and it's getting super close

[solar bison]

yh ik that after watching it

looool

[magic juniper]

What you should do is mix in sprints in different directions between shots unless your flicks are not consistent

[bright elm]

pgti

[bright elm]

that last kill

[burnt stone]

i feel like that clip was mid for me

[bright elm]

that last kill ain't mid

[burnt stone]

air strafe inbetween shots is 10x better

[magic juniper]

That clean target switch to BH rip him

[burnt stone]

plat ts go brr

[solar bison]

not for a very long time

until I stop being dogshit

[burnt stone]

omg

i have the funniest clip

[solar bison]

https://streamable.com/e2xhh4

tracking 0

flicking 1

@burnt stone any advice

Im not surprised since tracking is my worst skill

[burnt stone]

why jump from height

[solar bison]

to see him more

I guess i should have slid

[burnt stone]

just shoot with shotgun and challenge from there

look at this shitter team in duo trios

then you have cover if you miss

and he doesn't if he gets cucked

bottom line is if you mess up he can't capitalize off of it as much as you can if he messes up

[burnt stone]

i panicked so hard

[magic juniper]

The 3 stack must have been malding

[burnt stone]

i may try no fill solo

[solar bison]

omg tracking😍

i wish i could do that

what cm do you use

I should probably use like 50cm

to compensate for how terrible my aim is

ive been on 30

strange how my click timing is still better than tracking

I think the issue is that you arent using that r9 skin

[dusky summit]

just dont be washed

i stopped playing for a while and started again, didn't really have much issue

[bright elm]

just get good again 5head

[solar bison]

@burnt stone I have a really really stupid clip you have to look at

skilled gun user😍

did you play much kvks then

compared to now

[dusky summit]

trying to do a stable 1 hr a day at most

my hand dies

[solar bison]

are you tensing?

[solar bison]

@alpine trail

[dusky summit]

ye but on the road not to

[solar bison]

then that's why

stretch them

[dusky summit]

yea i do

every few mins

[solar bison]

I can play 5 hours a day

[dusky summit]

i try to keep it relaxed now

[burnt stone]

Give me a sec and I'll look

[dusky summit]

im tensing way less now

[alpine trail]

GET OUTTA HERE BEFORE YOU GET HURT.

THe FUCK YOU LOOKIN AT

Just supervising a fight.

[dusky summit]

gamer

[solar bison]

https://streamable.com/e20z1t

as I thought

play less kovaaks

[dusky summit]

don't you mean more

[solar bison]

no

[dusky summit]

opposite meaning they play less kovaak

[solar bison]

good

you'll be cracked soon that way

[dusky summit]

isn't kovaak supposed to help

[solar bison]

make it 0

[dusky summit]

im doin like 1 hr of kovaak then 5 hours of apex

afterwards

or 8-10

on weekends

[solar bison]

75 in apex, 0 kovaaks

[burnt stone]

oml

[solar bison]

LMFAOOOOOOO

It happened again

[burnt stone]

you didn't play too badly though

[solar bison]

after another octane chase

I was 1hp

but still shit on him

Those kids were actual ai

[solar bison]

advice?

and new video

[burnt stone]

shoot spiders when passing by so they get hit by them, take car and don't fight without having shield, it should have boost and idk the context but if that pad wasn't there then they didn't have pad to chase with

qheutie casually staying awake when they need to be in in a few hours

[solar bison]

If I tried to shield up I would have died I think

[burnt stone]

take car and go far enough where you can shield safely

you have boost to leave with

astra complete sleeping

[solar bison]

tbh I wanted to keep fighting so I didnt take the car

didn't know there were 2 more teams

I thought I only had 1 team to fight

[burnt stone]

int mentality

[solar bison]

wdym fight to get better

I had full shield after the first kill

[burnt stone]

fighting at a disadvantage is bad practice generally

i meant towards the end of the clip

when you passed by spider cave

car right there

[solar bison]

oh i see that now

[burnt stone]

the longer you live the more opportunities to take fights, the more fights you take the better quality practice you get

[solar bison]

Yh i wanted to shield and go back

[burnt stone]

you can do the same with the car lmfao

take it, shield up, then take it back

[solar bison]

Aight

I was tunnel visioned

@burnt stone I swear seer ran up the stairs???

[burnt stone]

no

[solar bison]

that's why I looked away

[burnt stone]

he jumped up from stairs back down

[solar bison]

[burnt stone]

but you're doing good

not that many mistakes

[dusky summit]

where do people look for teammates

in apex

[icy meadow]

Anywhere but the offical apex discord server

[burnt stone]

^^

[alpine trail]

^^^

[burnt stone]

could always ask here too

[dreamy spade]

kovaaks is a training tool. doesnt matter if your great at training if u do shit during the real thing or you trained wrong

[alpine trail]

Try Battlecord

[dreamy spade]

whats the battlecord? ive seen people mention it but idk what the fuck it is

[alpine trail]

It’s competitive Apex Discord

Full of snobs and elitists but better than Reddit

[dreamy spade]

is it like one of those things were its like "no one lower then D4 can join" kind of elitism?

[alpine trail]

It’s the LFG channel

“LFG only people in Dia with points, no hard stuck”

They all suck but it’s better than Golds saying “well I could be Diamond too but there’s too many cheaters”

[magic juniper]

That's fax @dreamy spade

[alpine trail]

Got to Dia using that LFG

[dreamy spade]

my fav channel to use for apex is either this one or nihils discord. nihils discord player times are scuffed af. either degen hours NA players or EU

[alpine trail]

But the best place(s) to find rank partners is on Twitch or just adding solo queue randoms

[dreamy spade]

theres also some absurdly good players in nihils discord

[magic juniper]

Just be good and people will want to add you

[dreamy spade]

bro if i play with a guy and im trying to rank ill add a random fucker in ranked.

[alpine trail]

Sometimes your randoms are stupid cracked

Or you just go and show some Twitch streamer your clips

[magic juniper]

I used to have the opposite problem where I grinded Apex but my aim was not matching up with my gamesense etc

[alpine trail]

And they go “ye play with us”

[dreamy spade]

as long as they aint the ____ 4 of whatever rank im trying to climb im fine

[magic juniper]

That's where I turned to the vaaks and now I'm doing much better. For me the right ratio is always fundamental routine first always then unlimited Apex after

[dreamy spade]

although tbh i never add people below gold and barely add people in plat because ive amassed so many people to play atleast plat ranked with

[magic juniper]

It's similar to what I used to do for Tekken when I was serious about improving

Mechanics practice in practice mode then play real games

[dusky summit]

are you in it?

[magic juniper]

You don't need homies to rank Plat unless you really hate solo

[dusky summit]

I feel bit weird asking randoms to join

diamond rn

[magic juniper]

These Plat kids cannot fight I swear

[burnt stone]

why

[magic juniper]

Diamond

[alpine trail]

Ye in it

[dusky summit]

im not the greatest myself yet so i don't want to disappoint people

[dreamy spade]

i really fucking hate solo. also makes it super fucking ez to sail through at full speed

[dusky summit]

mechanically at least

[alpine trail]

Just say that

[magic juniper]

Yeah you need homies for Diamond

[alpine trail]

“I don’t think I’m good but I’ll try my best”

[dreamy spade]

like honestly just duo quing for plat makes it so much better

[alpine trail]

^

[magic juniper]

Well if you're if you're cracked as hell solo Masters is possible

[dreamy spade]

honestly as long as my teamamte doesnt die first i can carry.

[alpine trail]

If you’re Taxi

[magic juniper]

But you would have to be realistic with yourself unless you want your mental to disappear forever

[alpine trail]

Then we’ll

[burnt stone]

as long as you don't advocate yourself as the best player or whatever and be honest about where you feel your skill level is

[alpine trail]

The game is your oyster

[dusky summit]

im not bad aim wise, just game sense and all that

[burnt stone]

you won't have any issues

[dreamy spade]

i was climbing solo to masters in s9 but couldnt even climb in a stack s10 im washed now

[dusky summit]

i haven't played the game enough to see every scenario

[burnt stone]

fucking

[dusky summit]

and now there's a new map

[burnt stone]

qheutie

go to bed

[dusky summit]

so i'm not very experienced

[burnt stone]

4head

oml

[dusky summit]

only

[burnt stone]

don't you need to be up in a couple hours?

[solar bison]

gamer moment

[burnt stone]

i have to be up in 8 hours

so i can sleep

later

[magic juniper]

Am I dumb for thinking playing zones and endgames are not even that difficult? I used to play League and loved watching pro League and there's so much more foresight required I feel

Apex end game be like "Play this wall, look this way" or "Fight here or we lose"

[burnt stone]

depends

on the players in the lobbies

[alpine trail]

People don’t realize that Kovaaks will do jack shit if you don’t apply it to the game

[burnt stone]

it's easy to identify where zone will be and where the ideal location is

[dreamy spade]

its 3am for me. real gamer hours out here

[alpine trail]

“Oh I trained Tracking for 3 hours but I can’t track enemies”

[burnt stone]

but if there are squads that are cock blocking you or changing up your plans on the fly

that

[alpine trail]

Because people don’t realize they need to imagine the enemies as the targets in Kovaaks

[burnt stone]

is where the difficulty comes in

[dusky summit]

I always try and do scenarios that can be applied in a real scenario and I translate it in my head, but I'm also trying to practice my general aim for multiple games and not make it only apex

[magic juniper]

If it's Qheutie's problem IMO that's a good problem to have to be Master Complete

[dusky summit]

yis this

i do this

[magic juniper]

I bet it will fix itself with more game time

Compared to never having the coordination at all

[dreamy spade]

i have just reached silver complete benchmarks and can still aim ego nearly everyone in plat and have hit masters before so

take from that what u will

[dusky summit]

i haven't had time to try benchmarks

here

[magic juniper]

@dreamy spade sounds about right Plat kids are actually terrible

I used to be cool ending ranked in Plat then my homie convinced me to try Plat and man I was shocked at how bad people were

[alpine trail]

No benchmarks here either

Will run a few scens that seem fun

Then not touch Kovaaks for 3 months

[magic juniper]

Benchmarks are whatever. What fundamental routine rank are you running though?

[dreamy spade]

ive been doing an hour daily

[alpine trail]

“Oh haha weird scen that’s like playing dodgeball”

[dreamy spade]

voltaic smoothness

[burnt stone]

lillia clearly hasn't played that kovaaks scene where you're aiming at a urinal

[alpine trail]

Ooh

[burnt stone]

i forgor the name of it

but someone screenshotted it and it was the funniest shit

[alpine trail]

Played this one where weird long squares dropped out of a tube

Dunno what the point was but it was fun

[burnt stone]

that's all that matters

[alpine trail]

No

What matters

Is this

[dreamy spade]

oh so the point i was trying to make was that raw aim is severely overratted. gamesense and positioning(and crosshair positioning for that matter) is what makes that cracked aim actually useful to u

[alpine trail]

https://twitter.com/liliasuccubus/status/1460179810098061315?s=21

Lilia The Succubus (@LiliaSuccubus)

NO ONE TEABAGS LILIA
NO ONE EVER
NO ONE GETS AWAY WITH IT
YOU DIE
EVERYONE DIE
now lilia sleep https://t.co/kHHKudwcSy

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 9:36 AM

[dreamy spade]

real

[alpine trail]

DON’T EVER TEABAG OR YOU GET BEAMED

This is the true lesson

[dreamy spade]

bro u teabag me in arenas im whipping out the L-star and rolling ur fucking ass

[alpine trail]

Teabag to get bodied

Get fucking fucked, shithead

Think he came into chat after and said “gg you rolled me. I don’t take arenas as seriously as you do”

Had to correct him. It’s not arenas. It’s teabagging. You brought this upon yourself.

Not actually mad about the teabag by the way haha

It’s just cool how it lined up with the clip

[dusky summit]

id teabag

[alpine trail]

And you’d get beamed

Like that guy

DELETED

WIPED FROM EXISTENCE

NEXT TIME IT WILL BE 3X HAVOC

[dusky summit]

beam me any day

[alpine trail]

Brrrrrr

Everyone fears the sound equally: “zyiiii-BWOOM!”

Sorry, haven’t had much sleep

[magic juniper]

@dreamy spade game sense is probably king in Apex. Crosshair placement seems dependent on the opp. I mean in the grand scheme yes it matters but you have to be playing people who will severely punish you for taking bad peeks

Compared to me trying out Val I can peek so much in Apex

[dusky summit]

get more then

[alpine trail]

Ye going to sleep now. Had a long day. Pretty eventful and fun.

But taking meds now and gonna pass out soon. Wake up tomorrow and hit some more ranked. Yessirrrrr

[dusky summit]

Gl

gn

[alpine trail]

You too

[dusky summit]

thanku

[magic juniper]

Good night

Now if only I could stop killing my sleep

[fair trellis]

yeah its not hard i 1v3 endgame zones in tournaments every day

[mighty brook]

susge

[dusky summit]

I watched imperialhal's tourny play and man it's literally just looting

finding a good spot inside the ring

and camping

and he scouts for victims

not same as ranked obv but yeah

[lusty vault]

That’s good they’ve alwYs played

[alpine trail]

Good morning peeps

[mellow kestrel]

🥴

[alpine trail]

Woah #11

Thats 2 #1s basically

Well done c:

[mellow kestrel]

thought my teammate could atleast do 10 damage

but no

oneclip first guy, hit second guy 190 then i die

asking too much from apex mm ig

[alpine trail]

Scrub you gotta start playing with peeps or just nofill

[mellow kestrel]

yeah gonna play with IRLs now was just waiting for them to get on

[alpine trail]

naizu

[hoary hamlet]

apex aint working for the easy anti cheat pops up den apex doesnt launch

help <.<

[alpine trail]

uhh

check task manager for another instance of EAC or even apex

if its not there, try opening r5apex.exe from the steamapps\common\Apex Legends\

folder

[hoary hamlet]

aight

yep not working

[alpine trail]

ehh probably have to restart pc

if you havent already

[hoary hamlet]

well gonna do that now

brb in 10

[mellow kestrel]

👍

[alpine trail]

[silver seal]

welcome to comp br

[mellow kestrel]

my lvl 178 IRL friend just got heirloom shards

fuck me

im at >400 packs

none

[solar bison]

100 left

[runic relic]

100 pack opening

[muted ruin]

mornin

@alpine trail we might have to play later in the day, i heard back that i got a job interview today. more money on mousepads and mice :kek:

[little verge]

Amass the collection.

I remember when I used to stick to one pad and mouse for years, now I got two pads and three mice, and looking at more lol.

[muted ruin]

haha. ive had this pad for about a year.

its done me well for sure.

this pad for about a year and this mouse for about 2.

razer viper and a mouspad company pad

[little verge]

Not a bad start for the mouse, no experience with the pad though lol.

[muted ruin]

yeah, its a nice mouse.

the pad is super good feeling

[alpine trail]

grats

[muted ruin]

tyty

https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-Zowie-Gaming-Mousepad-Esports/dp/B07XLGBRS3/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=divina+mouse+pad&qid=1636993296&sr=8-10

[alpine trail]

s-mousepad

[frozen narwhal]

Mousepad mastersheet
http://bit.ly/30cWlUe

[muted ruin]

thinking of getting this for next pad

[alpine trail]

check dat out

[muted ruin]

will do

[alpine trail]

pretty sure its one of the recommended ones on the spreadsheet

[muted ruin]

yeah.

ill look

yeah its the highest used by pros.

yo i just started using this scroll wheel tap strafe bind

holyyy bro

so good

[bright elm]

gsr se

ew

[lost harbor]

^

[fair trellis]

trash

coating wears out like in 1 week

have fun with a slow middle

[alpine trail]

get a hien

c:

[muted ruin]

yeah bro sure

[alpine trail]

check uhh

dang

they had preorder on LGG for like

$55

https://lethalgaminggear.com/products/artisan-fx-hien-xl?_pos=2&_sid=bc40a08aa&_ss=r&variant=39614965055660

but its sold out already

[mighty brook]

ac+ white cheap affordable food quality

[solar bison]

Otsu

[mighty brook]

question mark

[alpine trail]

i heard good things about aqua control+

[solar bison]

Get an otsu lads

[mighty brook]

seonnnnn

[solar bison]

Euphoriaaaa

[alpine trail]

otsu also out of stock

for $65

[solar bison]

😍

[alpine trail]

the kayate kou is $65 preorder

but i know nothing about the pad

[muted ruin]

ive heard good things about x-ray pad

[alpine trail]

Evolution version based on HAYATE and HAYATE-OTSU v1.

[solar bison]

AC+ is good for the price

[alpine trail]

yeah

[solar bison]

But artisan pads

🤤

[alpine trail]

artisans longevity is the main selling point

[solar bison]

Not even

The stitching is insane

The base is insane

Like the perfect pad

[muted ruin]

https://themousepadcompany.com/ i have one of these

[magic juniper]

If you like glide and speed, I've been really liking my Traigun Cordura

[lusty vault]

Just use a hien

Everyone hates the hien so it’s always available

[muted ruin]

mm yes

always out of stock

[magic juniper]

Yeah they're always out of stock which is a bummer

[muted ruin]

stg im thinking of making apex burner accs till i get heirloom shards

[lusty vault]

What website is that

[muted ruin]

https://lethalgaminggear.com/collections/artisan/products/artisan-fx-hien-xl?variant=39614965219500

[lusty vault]

3rd party sellers will always be out of stock

[muted ruin]

im not in japan bro

[magic juniper]

I was going to try a Hien after my HyperX Fury S but Artisan doesn't make desk size mouse pads

[mighty brook]

then get in japan

[muted ruin]

^

travel to japan to get a mousepad

5head galaxian brain

[lusty vault]

You can order

From artisan and not be in Japan

LMAO

[mighty brook]

no you can’t

[solar bison]

Otsu soft

Better hien

[mighty brook]

artisan is a Japan only company

as of now

[magic juniper]

I'm planning on visiting Japan again and one of my friends told me to load up on Artisan pads if I do

[solar bison]

@mighty brook new pfp

[lost harbor]

yeah get an otsu soft

[mighty brook]

thank you, thank you

[lusty vault]

Since when???

[mighty brook]

idk I was just bull shitting

[lusty vault]

https://www.artisan-jp.com/fx-hien-eng.html

Here

Black is in stock

[mighty brook]

but anywho @half blade can you get me to jade so it matches my pfp

[lusty vault]

Red is in stock mid only

Mid is best idc

[solar bison]

I want to get a zero soft now

When it comes in wine red

[lusty vault]

Zero is dogshit pad

I take that to my grave

[alpine trail]

i want the pink hien

but i have wine red so no point

maybe ill bleach it

[muted ruin]

bro

i cant wait till the day i get teamates my fuckin skill level in ranked

im in gold rn gaining like +70 +100 a game

and i stg

these dudes just die

[alpine trail]

trust it doesn't get much better even in plat

[muted ruin]

man i had 9 kills and i was abou to legit wipe a whole ass nother squad

my teamate dies first thing in the fight

and i kill 2

and miss 2 bullets and he has a spitfire so im fucked

its aids bro

[viscid wraith]

+100 a game isnt bad in gold tbh

also shit teammates are kind of just the norm at this point

[muted ruin]

my goal is diamond in this season.

[viscid wraith]

youll get it

diamond isnt hard

dia-masters is a bitch if soloq tho

closest i got was 20 off

[wintry scroll]

anyone can get dia

[muted ruin]

im solo rn

its rip

[wintry scroll]

you are really skilled you will definitely get it

60hrs on the game and already over 2kd? u just have to grind more and u will be insane in apex

[muted ruin]

ty

[viscid wraith]

as long as you dont burn yourself out doing it at the beginning of the season vs deranked 3 stacks, youre gucci

only time i ever mstruggled over it was doing it during those times

[lusty vault]

@muted ruin

You never get that

Can solo q in masters

And your teammates feel silver

[urban tapir]

anyone wanna get masters? need teammates

[mighty brook]

it’s just a matter of how much you play

it’s a participation badge

masters actually takes a good player + time

[wintry scroll]

trueeeee

[viscid wraith]

masters takes brains, pred takes a 3 stack of brains or euriece

ngl i prob got lucky with how close i got to masters

considering how i play

cba to play smart f that shit lmao

[mighty brook]

I could never get masters man

just ratting

I could but

[viscid wraith]

bah

still die to a console kill grinder 3 stack

[mighty brook]

why would I bother doing it when the only reward is a shiny trail you get to see for 10 seconds, a little badge on a banner nobody looks at and a gun charm to put on a gun you’ll probably never get cause of the dogshit loot system

[viscid wraith]

ye rewards system in this game is a bit of a joke

[mighty brook]

the only positive is to flex to friends which I don’t have

[wintry scroll]

lol

[muted ruin]

me when

about 20 of my hours are just sitting in firing range doing spray control with 301 and flatline

[wintry scroll]

wtf

[muted ruin]

what

[bright elm]

why do u spend so much time on learning recoil on two guns

[wintry scroll]

ikr

like

[bright elm]

[muted ruin]

beamurrrrr

beeemurrrrr

[viscid wraith]

what recoil?

[bright elm]

true

[muted ruin]

lul

[bright elm]

if anything practice with havoc

[viscid wraith]

havoc is buck from r6s

pull down

[bright elm]

it goes side to side

no?

[viscid wraith]

barely

[bright elm]

its pretty aggressive

iirc

[muted ruin]

nah. flatline recoil is annoying.

[bright elm]

flatline is just right left

lol

[muted ruin]

noooo

[viscid wraith]

i was buck player tho so to me the recoil is tame as shit

[bright elm]

controlling f2 recoil

[viscid wraith]

f2 flash is just down tho lmao

[bright elm]

no but it goes straight up

the amount i pull down my mouse

was absurd

[bright elm]

yes?

[viscid wraith]

lmao i played 70-80cm on siege arm aim was godly kekw

[bright elm]

its just right and left

[wintry scroll]

learning recoil only useful if your target is like 50+ meters away

[bright elm]

makes sense

[wintry scroll]

or if the gun has weird recoil

[bright elm]

i think i was 50cm

[wintry scroll]

like l star

[bright elm]

in r6

i copied beaulo's settings and stuck with it

[viscid wraith]

most of apex you can fire off a few uncontrolled sprays and just counter pattern, most guns fall into either left or right or alternating theres noting complex

[bright elm]

^^

it aint csgo dw

or tarkov recoil

[deep linden]

just get shidenkai pink then peel

ez pink hien

[muted ruin]

yeah but im talking with all the sights and all the stuff.

those guns felt the best to me so i legit learned everything about that with every sight and how they feel and shit

[viscid wraith]

id recommend just playing - nothing wrong with learning the guns, but you get used to them pretty quick assuming you have a decent base level of mouse control

[muted ruin]

yeah.

but the shit like

1 sec

ik quality is ass

but beams like that make me want to continue to play the game

[deep linden]

I don't think about controlling recoil

I just think "keep enemy at center of screen ez"

[muted ruin]

fair

[wintry scroll]

same

[deep linden]

regen wanna kiss?

[wintry scroll]

😳

[muted ruin]

i think thats the next logical step

[deep linden]

it doesn't apply in cs because bullet no go where crosshair go when spraying

[wintry scroll]

👉 👈

[deep linden]

@wintry scroll get on apex rn we're gonna touch guns

[wintry scroll]

nah im chilling really hard rn i dont want apex to fuck it up.

[deep linden]

damn

apex really does you that dirty huh

[magic juniper]

The game is designed to manipulate your hormones and emotions

[burnt stone]

Painge

[alpine trail]

i said it before but if avg winrate is 5%

95% of the time losing/dying in a game = big salt community

xd

[muted ruin]

truthfully bro

[surreal linden]

not a beam

• ratio

[alpine trail]

i did that and my 2nd account got an heirloom...turned into my main account lol

[surreal linden]

fresh heirloom accs r really cheap

[burnt stone]

How are you doing kyn

[surreal linden]

u can get one for like 20 $

[burnt stone]

Haven't seen ya in a minute

[alpine trail]

hey

im good

ive been here kinda i think

[alpine trail]

rlly? that cheap

[surreal linden]

thats what i bought mine for

it was fresh w nothing but heirloom

[burnt stone]

Ic ic, have you played benchmarks at all?

[alpine trail]

mmm not rlly..just been apex and doing routines

i did get a couple more platinums the other day tho so that was nice

dynamic clicking and reactive tracking

[surreal linden]

i used to like doing kvk but now i find games borderline unenjoyable

i got gm/m scores and completely stopped

[alpine trail]

rip i wish. thankfully i have so much room to improve im not bored yet

[surreal linden]

ill probably start playing elden ring when that comes out

[alpine trail]

ooo

yeah im rlly excited for that, i just started looking into it more

elden ring looks really good

hei you wanna pubstomp later ?

[proven pulsar]

[burnt stone]

Elden ring mmf

[iron dragon]

can't wait for elden ring

100 hours on pve and another 100 on pvp within the first month no cap

[burnt stone]

Thats the wave

[golden berry]

Asher#3566 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[burnt stone]

Ah shid I'm not in fA

[iron dragon]

i was already hyped for the game but after hearing that there's ds1 poise with ds3 backstabs and that true combos are gone, the hype just increased

[burnt stone]

Unlucky

[iron dragon]

halo infinite downloadable rn btw for those who care

[burnt stone]

[solar bison]

Ret.ar.d

[burnt stone]

@ mods

Gettem boys

[solar bison]

😭

[burnt stone]

I'm gonna be like one of those goofs that got thousands of kills on ash in the first few days/week

But for elden ring

No more gaypex

[iron dragon]

can't wait for early day 1 low level invasions

the best content

[burnt stone]

Lmao

[solar bison]

Why gaypex

Why not transpex

[surreal linden]

bc its pronunciation is similar

said the same way

doesnt change the structure of the word

[solar bison]

It twas a joke

😔

[muted ruin]

[surreal linden]

gaypex is a serious matter

[muted ruin]

with like 50 games played on ash i have 7 wins.

not bad id say.

[alpine trail]

@mellow kestrel look at this one xD

[alpine trail]

DS3 I was a naked parry andy with smough's greathammer holstered

[proven pulsar]

Damn

I forgot i gotta finish DS3 again

Might do it today

[alpine trail]

i havent touched it in so long

i used to do speedruns of any% dark souls 2 current patch doe

[muted ruin]

ive never played any of the souls games

[alpine trail]

never liked the ds series

[static rose]

ds3 still worth playing

[alpine trail]

[muted ruin]

man i really want a heirloom bro.

[alpine trail]

nioh and nioh2 tho????

W

[muted ruin]

never played and souls like games at all.

[static rose]

just start off with sekiro

[surreal linden]

they are great

yeah sekiro or ds3

[static rose]

i hope they remake bloodborne for pc at some point

[iron dragon]

for pve ds3, pvp ds1 or 2

[muted ruin]

maybe, if my apex addiction ever ends

[iron dragon]

classic

[burnt stone]

Dark souls one no armor, no shield, all points into strength, skip into the tree area in the swamp before spider lady, go down until you get to the beach, run past hydra

[alpine trail]

if u want to end ur apex addiction early

just start solo ranke queuing

[burnt stone]

Make a pact with dragon covenant and cut off his tail

[alpine trail]

:)

[burnt stone]

Now you have ridiculously nutty strength weapon that you can use

[alpine trail]

ye

[solar bison]

I don't think apex addiction can ever happen

[alpine trail]

dragons tooth or w/e

[burnt stone]

I liked ds3 more then 2

[muted ruin]

https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/SolarrD2/overview i alr have @alpine trail

[burnt stone]

But 1 was best

[alpine trail]

same

tru tru

DS2 i only enjoyed it for the speedrun really

[iron dragon]

i liked ds2 pvp more than 3

[burnt stone]

Dunno why people hate 3 so much

[static rose]

me too

[burnt stone]

Never played pvp

[alpine trail]

I never played ds2 pvp only speedruns

[iron dragon]

mostly due to r1 and roll spam with gank spanks

[static rose]

but i still found ds1 the best

[burnt stone]

I don't like laggy bs

[static rose]

ps3 pvp era was goated man

[alpine trail]

DS3 pvp was fun as hell

[burnt stone]

Ds3 magic do be sick

[alpine trail]

the fucking parry to one shot smough's great hammer

was pure gold

[burnt stone]

Elden ring is going to be so god damn fun

[iron dragon]

all the games are fun for pvp

[burnt stone]

Literally not playing apex

Just elden ring

[iron dragon]

lower level invasions > duels / meta invasions

[static rose]

parrying then switching rings mid fights >>>

[iron dragon]

i had a crazy moonlight gs build for both ds1 and ds3

[undone slate]

is it possible to get pro aim with mouse accel? my flicks are good tracking dogshit

[static rose]

i use the MULE save file shit on ds1 for ps3 b/c i just liked to pvp

[iron dragon]

i still do the same on pc

[static rose]

def possible to get good aim with accel

[iron dragon]

1 save slot for normal pve, 9 muled pvp build slots

[static rose]

oh shit

[muted ruin]

@undone slate i would recomment using a program that makes the acceleration more predictable

[static rose]

i only ever knew it was on ps3

[muted ruin]

not just mouse accel thru windows

[undone slate]

im using rawaccel already

[static rose]

but maybe if its still possible on pc i might go back just to one shot bosses and have fun

[iron dragon]

well ds1 on pc you just use cheat engine to spawn shit because no softbans but ds2 and 3 have mule saves

ds2 you gotta be VERY careful with cheat engine because the softban is so sensitive and you can't get unbanned unlike in ds3

thank god for family share

[static rose]

word

[surreal linden]

ds3 doesnt actively check its some weird shit like every wednesday it checks ur file

[static rose]

i'll probs play some ds3 again to warm up for elden ring

[surreal linden]

lmao

[iron dragon]

yeah that's also what allows you to get unbanned

[static rose]

i uninstalled cheat engine b/c im pretty sure that shit triggered my warzone

[alpine trail]

wow sigi a warzone cheater confirmed

[static rose]

LOL

ya got me

i did it for re4 and shit

[iron dragon]

can't wait to see what sort of sick ass builds you can come up with in elden ring

[alpine trail]

I only did cheat engine for sonic adventure 2 battle

[iron dragon]

hoping for lots of variety even for meta

[alpine trail]

to speed up the fucking chao evolutions

[static rose]

so far it seems like they really put in some of the best aspects of all the games

[tall whale]

88

[iron dragon]

yup

[static rose]

hope it delivers cuz then easily dropping other games for it lol

[alpine trail]

context ?

[tall whale]

typo

[alpine trail]

better be

[iron dragon]

maining elden ring for 2 months, taking a break for stalker 2 and then coming back once i'm done

burnout avoided ez

[fair trellis]

stalker is prob gonna be a disaster

[iron dragon]

50-50 really

[static rose]

never played it

[iron dragon]

they hired some of the old devs back

the biggest one being the one who developed the original A-Life system

the STALKER games are probably my favorite singleplayer games ever

the countless mods give them near infinite replayability as well

especially if you know russian

[alpine trail]

i feel like darksouls ruined a lot of single player games for me

in that they either felt too pisslow easy or just straight up not fun

like witcher 3

couldn't play that for more than 15 minutes

[iron dragon]

witcher 3 combat

[static rose]

lol

[alpine trail]

Last singleplayer games I played through was like

[static rose]

i def get what u mean tak

[alpine trail]

Yakuza Kiwami 2

and a bit of sleeping dogs

[static rose]

esp b/c soulsborne series has some of the best replay value

[alpine trail]

yeah...

[static rose]

like if i can't do more than 1 run its almost not worth it to me

[iron dragon]

outside of speedrunning i think the last singleplayer game i COMPLETED was stalker call of pripyat iirc

[muted ruin]

i never finished slime rancher

i always wanted to

[iron dragon]

speedrunning included it was postal 2

[static rose]

most recent single player game i played was metroid dread last month

[alpine trail]

postal or portal 2

[iron dragon]

postal

[alpine trail]

never heard of postal series

[muted ruin]

yessir

postal 2

fav game

[iron dragon]

there's no way you haven't heard of any variation of "Could you sign my petition?"

[magic juniper]

@iron dragon when you don't know Russian

[iron dragon]

then there's community or shitty machine translations

[muted ruin]

movement tooooo dogwater rn bro i need to get so much better :/

[magic juniper]

@muted ruin are you talking about in Apex? I saw that Flatline beam and it was pretty gross

[muted ruin]

yeah, but my movement is bad.

[magic juniper]

Lowkey Flatline is so good

[muted ruin]

movement 90% of the game stg

highkey flatline is so good bro

flatline is my bbgurl

[static rose]

flatline is the best ar

[magic juniper]

Yeah honestly if I drop on a Flatline I'm set

[static rose]

borderline OP

[muted ruin]

truuu

get a 2x on that thing

you set for the whole game

ez

[iron dragon]

ight time to get destroyed in halo infinite

[muted ruin]

yessir

[magic juniper]

It has a slight skill floor because of the recoil but the recoil reduction made it WAY easier

It doesn't excel per se but all around it's too solid especially the damage per mag

[muted ruin]

yeah

[magic juniper]

Sometimes I lose fights because my beam wasn't perfect with the r301 but a Flatline would have kept shooting

[muted ruin]

most def.

[magic juniper]

duk duk duk duk

[muted ruin]

i need to get comfy with close range tracking before i used the r99

[alpine trail]

I think I'll always be a flatline/R99 + wingman andy

[muted ruin]

hey man if ur comfy with it who cares lol

[magic juniper]

Flatline/R99 is a solid loadout especially if you're beaming that day

[muted ruin]

glad to know i am not the only person who beams some days and just whiffs some other days

[magic juniper]

This is not a competitive loadout but Flatline/r301 is fun if you want to be a turret aimer

ADS every fight

Kill them first it doesn't matter if they're strafing and you're not

[muted ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOHoXyOTNw

look at my movement in this clip bro

its soooo asssss

need them close short strafes kovaaks practice ongong

[magic juniper]

Yeah you definitely could have hit some wall jumps after the slide jumps

[muted ruin]

its hard for me to think abt wall hops n shit like that mid fight.

because my experiance in other games like fortnite and cod dont have hops and tapstrafe and stuff like that mid fight.

you have aim and jump and crouch spam

[magic juniper]

Do it a lot in-game out of fights even if you dead slide a lot initially or get no wall jump

It's really handy to have because it can help you escape or reposition faster

[mellow kestrel]

game starts wiht 38 players

so trash

[muted ruin]

yeah, the main reason i did alot of just sitting there and spraying flatline and 301 and 99 is so that i do the recoil subconsciously.

ig i need to do that in game with wall hopping around and shit.

i swear if i got my movement to above average with wallhops and shit like that mid fight i could get masters if i truly grinded it out.

[bright elm]

you dont need wall bounces to hit masters

[magic juniper]

At least from that one clip you def need to hit that cfsi and ground plaza

That close range reactivity looking sus

[muted ruin]

yeah. i know. its bad.

im def a long range gamer.

[bright elm]

the only practical use i find with wall bouncing is climbing over a wall fast

[magic juniper]

As soon as you get on target you weren't shaky and it was a beam

[bright elm]

or going over something in general faster since you skip the climbing part

[magic juniper]

I have the opposite problem where my precision tracking is worse than my reactive

[muted ruin]

i can precision just fine

just some clips with music behind.

[magic juniper]

Yeah I like to tense up which messes up me hititng fast moving targets at range

[muted ruin]

i dont tense my hand

i tense my ass

ong

[magic juniper]

The hipfire track on Horizon wasn't too shabby

Actually I take that back after rewatching you started whiffing on the strafes

[muted ruin]

it was so

mediocre

at best lmao

[magic juniper]

What kind of scenarios do you train? Do you run the VT fundamentals?

[muted ruin]

let me log onto main acc rq and look

lul

someone just tried to scam

[magic juniper]

lmao

[muted ruin]

i cant decide if i want to do higher sens for apex movement or lower for better aim

[bright elm]

if ur just gonna beam people at long range

you might as well play low sens

[muted ruin]

yeah, but i want to get better at close range and movement n shit like that.

and @magic juniper ive been doing a thing called puresmoothness 1by1

[bright elm]

you can beam people close range with low sens

hollow_o uses 43cm

53cm ads

and he is able to beam anyone at all ranges

same with his movement

[magic juniper]

@muted ruin I think lower is better for consistency but if you can avoid tensing up higher sens has more skill ceiling

[muted ruin]

yeah.

let me calc my cm/360 rq

[magic juniper]

@bright elm 43cm masterrace

[bright elm]

i like it

but i prefer 30cm so i dont have to move my arm as much

[muted ruin]

37/360

so im inbetween i feel

[magic juniper]

If you feel it's not shaky and also not too slow I'd stick with it honestly

It's more a coordination issue

[muted ruin]

i feel like its a bit slow.

[magic juniper]

I tried juggling sens going up 0.1 up and down for 400 dpi from 2.4 and it wasn't worth

[muted ruin]

just a bit. i was on 28/360

[magic juniper]

If it's too slow keep going up until it's too shaky for you then go back down until it's "enough"

There's no such thing as a perfect balance because different variables will force you to be good with all parts of your arm

Fov change from different optics, targets up close or at a distance, how fast the targets are moving etc

All you really need to be is comfortable whatever comfortable means

so that you can be consistent practicing and staying focused on the target

[muted ruin]

yeah. makes sense.

im so just

meh

[magic juniper]

Yeah it's a grind honestly

[muted ruin]

i want to be like top 5% so bad bro.

like thats such a dogwater play

[magic juniper]

I started having a breakthrough recently but I had several pbs that were stuck for months

[muted ruin]

like bro i just mirror the dude. when they AD strafe i stg my mind breaks

[magic juniper]

Are you tensing up? The tracks and corrections are not very smooth

Not judging because I tens up like a mf

[muted ruin]

no not at all

here

let me do mousecam rq

[magic juniper]

Interesting, it could be your reading skills need some refinement

I don't need a mouse cam

It's good that you're not tensing that's what matters

Hmm

[muted ruin]

ik its funky

[magic juniper]

Are you focusing on your arm or only looking at the target?

[muted ruin]

the target

[magic juniper]

You need that maximal focus where your body adjusts (whenever that is )

[muted ruin]

one thing is that even with this high sent

sens

my arm

just gets all funky

so i have to lift

[magic juniper]

Oh you really shouldn't be lifting until you hit the edge of the pad where you can't go anymore

or you're too far from reset position where it feels uncomfortable