apex

[random aspen]

Easily

[alpine trail]

yeah you are very good

have to be at least decent to do something like that

[random aspen]

First week solo q to D4

I'm very good at rotations and macro play

I play cautiously in ranked

But I will take good fights

And fight for good positioning

My mechanics are bad

As well as my micro in fights

[alpine trail]

should do 1v1s with people here

[rapid reef]

I’m not familiar with the term macro and micro in apex, what’s that mean

[alpine trail]

would be good practice for you then

[random aspen]

No PC atm

[alpine trail]

macro is like big decisions for where to go/rotate/position

[random aspen]

Yes

[alpine trail]

micro is small stuff like what cover to take

when to push

timing execution

etc.

[random aspen]

Yes

[rapid reef]

I see

[alpine trail]

macro = big picture

[rapid reef]

Thank

[alpine trail]

ye

[random aspen]

My mechanics are inconsistent

[rapid reef]

Makes sense, I didn’t categorise it but I understand what you mean to say

[random aspen]

Idk when I'll get my PC back

Or if I'll still be playing Apex then, after the tapstrafe change

Or if I migrate to roller

[alpine trail]

dont migrate to roller

stick to mnk

tapstrafe change will not be that polarizing i dont think

it will be fine game still

[graceful swallow]

when did people figure out tap strafe?

people need to strop crying about the change

tap strafing doesnt make you good

[alpine trail]

if you made complaints about roller players/roller and then use it

you are a defect

[graceful swallow]

that's what you call a cope

[random aspen]

Tapstrafing measurably increased my fun

[graceful swallow]

only thing it really effects is the top end

[bright elm]

so all of us?

[graceful swallow]

i guess it also does something if you're a solo pub warlord

but otherwise doesnt change much

feel like most people crying

have like a 1.5kd

[alpine trail]

yes

[bright elm]

true but still

[alpine trail]

its pussy move to switch to roller from mnk because they remove tapstrafe

[bright elm]

imma miss movement like tap strafing

[graceful swallow]

definitely pussy move

[random aspen]

Why you gotta @ me

[graceful swallow]

nothing stopped you from playing with a roller to begin with

tap strafing is cool

[bright elm]

seeing movement like that got me into the game again

[graceful swallow]

but i doubt even like 1% of the people crying about it are good enough to utilize it without absolutely fucking their aim up

i dont care about super gliding and tap strafing

[random aspen]

I use it to run and avoid bad confrontations

[graceful swallow]

tap strafing more important if you play high elo imo

but i genuinely think that super gliding is fucking busted

[bright elm]

well i guess it'll be a lot easier to beam people running away

my aim aint there when i see 3 people tap strafing wall bouncing and manipulating their hitbox so much

[lost harbor]

wait so based on the twitlonger u can still tapstrafe 90°?

[random aspen]

Maybe?

90 degrees would be perfect

[graceful swallow]

that's still good if you can

anyone still crying is a coper

[ruby radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/873951505546367086.gif?v=1

[cinder plank]

Lmao

[lost harbor]

lol i saw this one too

dumbest take ive seen all week

[lost harbor]

yeah fr, at least u can still tapstrafe into wallbounce and stuff

[graceful swallow]

it's not a dumb take lol

that's a completely fair point

tap strafing isnt intuitive

took people 7+ seasons to find out about

[ruby radish]

"Guys im not fucking good, the better players keep killing me"

[lost harbor]

walljumping isn't intuitive, redirect isn't intuitive

zipjump isn't intuitive

[alpine trail]

well, i think its a bad take because: even if it is not fun to get styled on as a noob

[graceful swallow]

walljump is straight forward

[alpine trail]

it doesn't matter if its because of tapstrafing or not

[lost harbor]

every new player needs a guide to learn these techs

[graceful swallow]

you cant zig zag

[alpine trail]

getting shit on as a noob is just not fun period

and not due to one mechanic

[lost harbor]

but those guides are available to every new player

[alpine trail]

so, for them to say subjectively its not fun for my friends who are getting killed by this tech

well, anybody can say X is not fun

[lost harbor]

and u can learn all of them within a few days of casual play

[cinder plank]

Guys

[alpine trail]

doesn't mean its grounds to remove it

i dont like dying to rampage, remove it

[cinder plank]

Just play game 5head

[alpine trail]

ye

[lost harbor]

rollers are not fun

[graceful swallow]

ok then what about people complaining about aim assist?

[lost harbor]

please remove roller support

[alpine trail]

i dont think they should complain about it either

just get better

[lost harbor]

my new player friends are dying to rollers too much

[alpine trail]

that's my attitude

[lost harbor]

remove :>

[cinder plank]

I think

Everyone complains too much

[graceful swallow]

aim assist makes roller playable

[cinder plank]

Whether its teammates or controller

[graceful swallow]

is it overtuned? sure

[lost harbor]

im not saying roller aa needs removal

[alpine trail]

if it was so polarizing that its impossible to win a fight vs roller

then i will complain more

[graceful swallow]

but the point is that tap strafe is a tech that isnt readable

[autumn harness]

masterchef so good guys

[alpine trail]

but, really its not that bad

[lost harbor]

im saying you can claim it's unfun in the same way getting tap strafed on is unfun

[cinder plank]

Someone talk about genshin

[alpine trail]

low TTK though

that's the difference

[cinder plank]

U dont need aim assist for r6

[graceful swallow]

^

[alpine trail]

high TTK they need vacuum aimbot

[graceful swallow]

you clearly dont understand

what makes roller so good if you want to make that argument

[lost harbor]

apex roller needs aa

[static rose]

did they fix sbmm or something

[lost harbor]

it's just that it's too much in cqc rn

[static rose]

my teammates are near my skill lol

[lost harbor]

no way

[autumn harness]

dont miss me

im watching masterchef

[graceful swallow]

they always tweaking sbmm without saying anything tbh

wouldnt be surprised

sbmm is true

[static rose]

eomm*

[graceful swallow]

it's not "somewhat true"

[graceful swallow]

it's literally true

[alpine trail]

i thought its eomm not sbmm

[static rose]

it is eomm

[graceful swallow]

id lean towards eomm tbh

[burnt stone]

i feel like the entire time i've been playing it's been against solely console players

[graceful swallow]

but it's fairly lax

[alpine trail]

yeah

[burnt stone]

like 3 pc players a lobby

[alpine trail]

its always like this though

its very rare to encounter pc players i feel like

for pubs

[burnt stone]

no

[graceful swallow]

dont know what pubs you guys are in

[burnt stone]

nono i mean like not just controller players

[lost harbor]

the mm is definitely the same

[graceful swallow]

guess im just not good enough

[lost harbor]

still getting bot teammates

every single game

[static rose]

damn wtf lol

[burnt stone]

i mean people who are actually genuinely braindead

[lost harbor]

sometimes they don't even know how to slidejump

[burnt stone]

the bot teammates i get every game are on the enemy team now

solely console players

[graceful swallow]

you always get bot teammates

there always needs to be fodder players in all lobbies

[cinder plank]

Yes

[graceful swallow]

otherwise you just get what happened in s3/s4

[static rose]

maybe im the bot teammate today

[lost harbor]

i think recently the enemy teammates have been less sweaty, but like i also swapped servers recently

[static rose]

wouldn't be surprised im playing like shit

[lost harbor]

i switched from singapore to taiwan servers and they're actually playable

[burnt stone]

it's a weird change of pace

[graceful swallow]

if you played back then, then you know what it looks like when sbmm actually gets fucked up

[burnt stone]

from what i'm more used to

[cinder plank]

What we’re all bots 😳

[graceful swallow]

and back then it was definitely and confirmed to be sbmm

[autumn harness]

u can be my bot

[alpine trail]

holy shit static pb again

[autumn harness]

im a top kinda guy

[graceful swallow]

they've publicly said tey make tweaks to sbmm

[burnt stone]

feels like i changed servers lol

[graceful swallow]

or eomm

[cinder plank]

I see

[graceful swallow]

whateve ryou want to call it

[burnt stone]

solely roller lobbies which is actually fun

[static rose]

when i played with llomo in sgp lobbies felt way diff lol

[autumn harness]

if you put ll0m0 in the worst ping possible you win

[cinder plank]

I wonder how ur supposed to read his name

[autumn harness]

try doing that more

[static rose]

i mean were na west so roller heavy isn't surprising

[cinder plank]

Lowmo

Le omo

[burnt stone]

lowmo

[cinder plank]

Ohh

[graceful swallow]

i just call him

[burnt stone]

is how i pronounce it

[graceful swallow]

omo

0m0

[ruby radish]

i just call him Le-Mou

[cinder plank]

I’ll just go with dad then

[burnt stone]

father

[autumn harness]

200 iq pick is to see the demographic of each country's console usage and pick the lowest one possible

[cinder plank]

Any good rap songs

Absoulte unit u have tyler pfp u better have some bangers

[autumn harness]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3VlW71ZRJPEjd17W0bW28D?si=hloiVYoRT7aT932ZvCvWpQ

[lost harbor]

korea

[cinder plank]

Is that the only good song in the album

[alpine trail]

[autumn harness]

yes the only good song in the album

[alpine trail]

2 off of plat

[cinder plank]

Ive been listening to it in the background for a while

[lost harbor]

no tbh

im gonna look them up rn

[autumn harness]

korea maybe non-tacfps

russians tac-fps

s1mple is close to russia so ez

[autumn harness]

ur mad

[bright elm]

[alpine trail]

ayy

[random thistle]

lmao

[alpine trail]

i clutched it out

got plat

[bright elm]

ayy

[random thistle]

lmao

[lost harbor]

couldn't u always just redirect 90° sideways

[cinder plank]

ayy

[random thistle]

lmao

[lost harbor]

and do the same shit

[bright elm]

yeah lmao

[alpine trail]

2/3 plat static lets goooo

[bright elm]

ayy

[cinder plank]

Bot doesnt like kristiann

[alpine trail]

we moving up in the world boys

[bright elm]

[lost harbor]

twitter users just haven't had their ankles broke enough

[bright elm]

go like my tweet guys

[lost harbor]

ok

[bright elm]

ratio him

[autumn harness]

top

[random thistle]

kek

What's This?

kek

[bright elm]

top

[cinder plank]

Add +ratio and I’ll think about it

[bright elm]

ok owo u little slut

[random thistle]

lmao

[cinder plank]

UwO

[autumn harness]

top

[random thistle]

kek

[bright elm]

[autumn harness]

why tf is joe still in the show

[cinder plank]

Whos joe

[bright elm]

makes money

[bright elm]

mama

[cinder plank]

Kristiann

[lost harbor]

first red flag was them having goddess in their name 🤨

[autumn harness]

it's one n now

@cinder plank

[cinder plank]

No

[bright elm]

gotem 🤣

[cinder plank]

Continue to call him kristiann

[autumn harness]

what if continued to call you bitch

[alpine trail]

@burnt stone

[autumn harness]

actually maybe you'd like it

[cinder plank]

What if i like it

Exactly

[autumn harness]

absolute...

[cinder plank]

Deez actually carried the show

Sad that they kicked him

[alpine trail]

yess

[cinder plank]

Zuck always got my back

[alpine trail]

3/3 plat static

lets fucking go

[cinder plank]

My man

[burnt stone]

@alpine trail

[cinder plank]

Nice tak

[cinder plank]

That last shot was unfair

[burnt stone]

lmfao

[bright elm]

y'all sussy

[burnt stone]

redirecting is so fun

[alpine trail]

r

[cinder plank]

🤤🤤🤤

[burnt stone]

you can be too

[frail abyss]

any 1v1 gamers

tryna kill time for another hour

kc is sleeper

[bright elm]

im the most straight person in this char

chat

[burnt stone]

kristian go 1v1 him

[bright elm]

i would if i was home

kek

[burnt stone]

i'm taking a break from it until kc is done kekw

[bright elm]

ill get slapped

[frail abyss]

i played 30 min of kovaaks

[bright elm]

so hard that he'll send me out of the milky way

[frail abyss]

but i just wanna play the game

[bright elm]

see

[burnt stone]

xD

[bright elm]

he even played kovaaks before

[burnt stone]

he's just a vaaks

[frail abyss]

anyone else

[burnt stone]

gamer

[alpine trail]

torje decide

do i do static

or 1v1

[frail abyss]

1v1

[autumn harness]

who actually drinks plain sparkling water

[frail abyss]

fuck static

[alpine trail]

kk

omw

[bright elm]

i fo

do

[alpine trail]

i just got 3/3 plat static

xd

[frail abyss]

cringepilled category

[bright elm]

preach

[autumn harness]

canadians :\

[cinder plank]

Wait its torje the same guy who made the oscilation vid

[alpine trail]

yes

the legendary oot speedrunner

[bright elm]

americans

[alpine trail]

before oot speedrun became cringe

[cinder plank]

Damn

[frail abyss]

ye that was me

[autumn harness]

ok.

[alpine trail]

torje you know whats funny

[bright elm]

ratio

[alpine trail]

i think in your sub17 run you say whats up takyon in it

[autumn harness]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-seltzer-bubbles-water-fizz-gif-17641511

[alpine trail]

when n3zmodgod was watching it on stream once he was like "OH SHIT IS THAT YOU TAKYON?"

[frail abyss]

oh does it LOL

[alpine trail]

[frail abyss]

oh yeah i remember noah saying that actually LOL

[alpine trail]

hahaha

invited you btw

[cinder plank]

Whats the point of sparkling water

[autumn harness]

i hope you have a successful life where you are happy you bitch

[cinder plank]

Just drink water

[autumn harness]

EXACTLY

[frail abyss]

fizz nice

[cinder plank]

If u want fizz drink soda

😋

[frail abyss]

i dont drink soda

havent for almost 5 years

[bright elm]

torje understands

[bright elm]

i hope u find a girl soon u hoeless bitch

[autumn harness]

at least add some flavor into sparkling water

[cinder plank]

Yeah

[autumn harness]

it just tastes bad in a bad way

[cinder plank]

I would understand if it had flavour

[bright elm]

fizzy water hits different

[autumn harness]

https://tenor.com/view/baal-genshin-impact-baal-baal-genshin-impact-childediluc-electro-archon-gif-22568311

daily baal gif

[bright elm]

woww healthy man

im over here drinking coke

[alpine trail]

tt

[bright elm]

[cinder plank]

Speedrun life ez

3 cans of coke a day minimum

[autumn harness]

some americans in central think that diet coke is healthy for you because it's diet @bright elm

americans.

[bright elm]

LMFAO

[cinder plank]

Shit i need to kovaaks

I forgot i was racing brendan

[bright elm]

you guys are missing out on bagged milk

hits diff

[autumn harness]

https://youtu.be/iIAFe7zaCRU?t=23

[cinder plank]

The bagged milk again

Just drink from the cow

[autumn harness]

https://tenor.com/view/cornflakes-cereal-milkman-milk-gif-10834093

[cinder plank]

Kinky

[autumn harness]

https://tenor.com/view/oreo-cooking-bomb-cooking-desert-delicious-gif-22684650

[small folio]

Cursed

[solar bison]

My heroes

[small folio]

https://twitter.com/RSPN_JayBiebs/status/1433211670093082628?s=20

John Larson | JayBiebs (@RSPN_JayBiebs)

MOVEMENT TECH AND MOBILITY IN APEX

Read: https://t.co/IW7hy1bh3j

Retweets

603

Likes

3668

Twitter · Sep 1, 2021, 11:34 PM

[proven pulsar]

<Movement should feel unchanged for controllers and for MnK players who hadn’t heard of the term “tap-strafe” until yesterday.>

[small folio]

Lemme quote some stuff

Some things are deeply engrained in muscle memory where it’s not worth touching.

But, Path grappling past and tap-strafing back into your face with a Mastiff, or Octane cranking 90s while maintaining ridiculous speed, bring up greater gameplay concerns.

And the best one

consulted our best MnK players as well as some pros.

[dreamy spade]

i mean

listen

[small folio]

"consulted pros"

[dreamy spade]

i dont agree with what he said at all

but like

[small folio]

Why is every pro against it then

[dreamy spade]

this is 10x better then anything DZK wouldve said

[small folio]

True

Atleast he tried to explain

[dreamy spade]

and the fact that he even acknolodged AA as a potential problem says something imo

[small folio]

This guy plays the game so it's expected

[dreamy spade]

yep

i know

[small folio]

He's madters/pred something on roller

[dreamy spade]

still happy dzk is gone

[small folio]

Unlike dzk

[dreamy spade]

gold player

[small folio]

Silver*

Gold 1 and above is high level for dzk

[dreamy spade]

reminder that this was apparently DZK
https://youtu.be/93EkQrt7L3s?t=922

[proven pulsar]

<the teams working on improving the wallhack meta>

[trail grail]

Ah yes. DZK does enjoy playing with a roller while explaining pathfinder grapple mechanics

[dreamy spade]

did jaybiebs say this?

[proven pulsar]

yes

[trail grail]

Man dont share that bullshit

[dreamy spade]

we'll see how full of shit this is but the fact he said something is already better then what we had before

[proven pulsar]

he makes some good points tho

dont agree with most of it but welp

[coral crypt]

@foggy geyser was this you? if it was that's p cool :D

[dreamy spade]

yeah me neither. but it gives me hope

[alpine trail]

game will be fine

its destined to be ruined by updates eventually

but this is not the one to do it

[autumn harness]

yeah this was me hi atago

[coral crypt]

LMAo

[small folio]

lMAO

[proven pulsar]

https://youtu.be/Mb2ctrxxJmc?t=173

^ timestamp

[lapis moat]

as much as I like jaybiebs i have literally no reason to believe a word that he says

[burnt stone]

am being carried

[dreamy spade]

I dont believe anything he says until he proves it. but i hope he will

[lapis moat]

i wouldnt even hope

[cinder plank]

Can someone help me vodreview 🥺

[trail grail]

Yeah thats definitely hollow

[hallow arrow]

doki are you still tap strafing or already stopped doing it

[lapis moat]

all this just looks like the single person working at respawn that isnt a complete NPC bot LARPing as someone that cares

i still do it probably its muscle memory now

[static rose]

1v1 anyone?

[trail grail]

recommended to watch a roller over the #1 pred

[proven pulsar]

go watch him

he's about to hit pred

[trail grail]

If I watch a roller I wont learn nothing

[alpine trail]

truuuuuu

tokyo 🤝

[proven pulsar]

wym

he's about to hit pred

[trail grail]

What the fuck do I gain from watching a roller player?

[proven pulsar]

that means he's good

[trail grail]

I dont give a shit

[proven pulsar]

!!!!111!

[trail grail]

xddddddd

@proven pulsar @ me when he can tap strafe

I'll wait

[proven pulsar]

how am i supposed to know

i dont even watch his streams

bruh

[trail grail]

b-b-but he's an up and coming pred tho

surely he can do it right?

[proven pulsar]

nickmercs so good he will single handedly get aim assist nerfed

[trail grail]

He's so talented legend says that rollers can play with aa turned off from their settings

[hallow arrow]

why would he tap strafe when its getting removed

dude be adapting way ahead

[proven pulsar]

he so good he will be able to tap strafe on controller

[hallow arrow]

they removed it just to protect everyones ego

the dev knew

https://fxtwitter.com/fryans_/status/1432847367166783491?s=20

this is a thing?

[alpine trail]

wait what

roller is getting the gun out instantly?

[proven pulsar]

@hallow arrow doko

[proven pulsar]

yeah someone posted a vid yesterday

it seems you can cancel a lot of animations while playing with roller

[alpine trail]

wtf

[hallow arrow]

i rmb you could cancel animations with controller

but this is new

holy shit

[alpine trail]

that's weird

[proven pulsar]

yeah like you press ult during the animation

and it gets canceled or something

[grizzled summit]

ty for the games tak and ghost

ggs

bye bye

[loud heart]

you can cancel nearly everysingle animation in the game with it

p sure you can cancel valk jetpack too

[hallow arrow]

can you cancel bloodhound ult and scan

that can be really useful

[hallow arrow]

would this just make you float with your gun out

[hallow arrow]

first game in a few days

banging

[cinder plank]

i love u hilo

[hallow arrow]

😳

[cinder plank]

[astral pebble]

gonna go find my controller

[merry dock]

fundamental

playlist feels so long

[cinder plank]

Did u download it from the doc

[merry dock]

yea

[cinder plank]

Cuz the doc has all the options

U have to pick which ones u wanna do

[merry dock]

i just downloaded and put

diamond static dots

[cinder plank]

U have to look carefully at ones that have “or”

U only gotta do one

[merry dock]

TRUE

smart

ty

@cinder plank when do u plan on redoing benchmarks

[cinder plank]

Hmm

[merry dock]

im gonna do it today update everything

thats not static

[cinder plank]

Maybe every weekend

[merry dock]

alr

ur 2 hours behind me

right sgt?

[cinder plank]

Yup

Good luck on ur benchmarks

[alpine trail]

what are some exercises i should do for apex

i been doing the ones from the sheet but they got repetitive and now i feel like i plateaued

[merry dock]

@alpine trail tile frenzy

[alpine trail]

hmmm

[cinder plank]

@merry dock u use 30 cm for static right

[merry dock]

yea

[cinder plank]

Kk

[alpine trail]

the startings of a good clip but im bad

[static rose]

wouldve been a nasty clip

[lapis moat]

how bad do you need to be at apex to revtane a pub

[hallow arrow]

is my pc dying

[trail grail]

playing minecraft

[alpine trail]

holy shit rofl

[twilit flicker]

so is respawn just removing scroll scroll wheel tap strafing?

[astral pebble]

https://youtu.be/iSwAoyO9uoE?t=650 god damn this girl is almost as bad as me at aiming

(just watch for like 20 seconds)

timestamp is 10:50 but I linked directly to the offset not sure if it works on mobile etc.

[little verge]

Nah, all tap strafing basically, but without killing lurch.

[graceful swallow]

@alpine trail @burnt stone you guys still playing? need a 3rd?

[alpine trail]

im about to get off

but ghost might want to still play

[hoary hamlet]

why do i know that club name

[simple light]

@astral pebble you know raizy

?

[astral pebble]

wjp

who's raizy

[hoary hamlet]

a streamer

she's good

[simple light]

Douyu tv raizy

Streamer

[hoary hamlet]

like really good

[astral pebble]

no, of course not. my only experience with "doyoutv" is those are hackers playing from chinese net cafes with preinstalled apex hacks

and they always have those DoyouTV2347234893 usernames

[simple light]

But she legit insane even better than some pros

[burnt stone]

am off too

[graceful swallow]

[hallow arrow]

Why would he know a douyu streamer

[astral pebble]

k controller is bad

unplugging it

[burnt stone]

raizy motivates me to play apex

[astral pebble]

i wish I could get excited wathcing people palying apex. but its same shit always. standing still, point, shoot, hit every bullet, down in one clip

i do same, except not a single bullet hits.

conclusion? they hacking.

[trail grail]

@rancid flame grats on getting pred

[dreamy spade]

she is fucking cracked

[wintry scroll]

seen her in my matches several times, she beamed me so hard

lol

[plush burrow]

She's cracked, seen her clips on ber28

Wall hack meta let's go

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srqb3c

In depth discussion about tap strafe

[mellow kestrel]

Thank god they didnt just mindlessly remove lurch

As long as you can do a 45 degree turn im happy tbh

[wintry scroll]

ye asia just has a lot of cracked ppl lmao

[cinder plank]

Yeah

Asia has Dragos

[wintry scroll]

damn\

[merry dock]

@cinder plank ur smoothbot scores are cracked

[burnt stone]

tru

[hoary hamlet]

asian genes

[merry dock]

australia has best aimers

no cap

small region

so many aimers

[hoary hamlet]

[burnt stone]

be born better next time

[merry dock]

LMAO

yea tru

[burnt stone]

it's the survival of the fittest when you got spiders that fukin big

only the best aimers survive

[graceful swallow]

the best ones dont go outside

so they never have to see the spiders

[burnt stone]

spiders can be inside too

literally the only place i ever see them

[graceful swallow]

youve

never seen a spider outside?

[burnt stone]

much less then i do inside

i see webs often but no spider too

[hoary hamlet]

spiders worst fear ever

[burnt stone]

i remember this one apartment complex i was in though they had these fat fucking trees and at first glance it looks ok but as you get closer you notice everything is covered in webs literally all over the palce

[hoary hamlet]

but snakes though

[cinder plank]

Thanks to a certain person

[burnt stone]

yourself

[merry dock]

can u bless my 1w4ts scores

[burnt stone]

snakes?

[hoary hamlet]

idk they cool

[burnt stone]

hard stuck gold static kekw

[burnt stone]

facts

[merry dock]

https://streamable.com/scvfyn

@burnt stone help

idk when i kvk for too long i get shaky

[cinder plank]

Take break ez

[lapis moat]

i need static coachign

any updates on the tapstrafe thing

how are they gonna remove it

[burnt stone]

take more breaks

kekw

[plush burrow]

Doesn't impact any other mechanics in game

[lapis moat]

doesnt seem likely

u cant just remove it like that

[plush burrow]

And they are getting pros/movement guys to test it supposingly

[lapis moat]

source engine doesnt work like this

back in tf2 they tried removing bhop but pieces of it were still around

[plush burrow]

Did you read the twitlong?

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srqb3c

[lapis moat]

no cuz devs arent trustworthy

[plush burrow]

Then how is asking here going to be any different

We know what the Devs tell us lol

[lapis moat]

OK fair

jaybiebs said they would nerf BH 4 times and nothing happened so im expecting them to completely fuck up this patch

[plush burrow]

They did mention the wallhack meta in the post aswell as taking note that even controller players want to nerf aim assist

Hopefully they act? Doubt because they won't make the game harder on casuals

They don't want to add controller looting because it'll effect what's pretty much muscle memory to do. In other terms it won't benefit a casual that much and make them spend more money so it isn't worth investing time and resources into

[burnt stone]

am tired so might be wrong, but iirc he said in the post he has more say with certain teams then others

[burnt stone]

yeah it's dumb as shit

literally takes like a day or two to get used to at most lmao

[plush burrow]

Well no, it's different for everyone

For your average controller player, they are actually terrible

But your good players on controller, it's impossible to win with mnk

I've seen my fair share of controller players, some with 100s of hours and still terrible.

[burnt stone]

by controller looting you mean moving and looting right

[plush burrow]

Ohhh

I'm dumb ignore me

[burnt stone]

what were we talking about lol

[plush burrow]

Im always talking out my ass in the morning

[hoary hamlet]

superglide tap strafe ?

[burnt stone]

yes

[deep linden]

yep

[hoary hamlet]

😼

[plush burrow]

I started talking something else lol, happens every morning

[burnt stone]

seraph is my carry

[burnt stone]

np

happens

[deep linden]

no u

[burnt stone]

seraph

where your montages be

[hoary hamlet]

i cant get it down for some weird reason can go glides but i forget to scroll up

[deep linden]

i use ctrl + space for superglides

[plush burrow]

One yesterday

Final 😢

[deep linden]

i'm probably not making apex highlights anymore

[burnt stone]

was tap strafing that important lol

[deep linden]

no

[hoary hamlet]

i use cfg

[deep linden]

it's the message behind it that pisses me off

[hoary hamlet]

^

we still have zip buildings

someday i

will come out alive out of a zip building

[burnt stone]

will keep enjoying apex until i'm not

talked to tak about the same thing

[deep linden]

in my case I've just been enduring the whole pander to casuals thing for so long

I'm just tired of that shit man

[burnt stone]

i guess

[hoary hamlet]

hmm

[deep linden]

I'm tired of stressing about what other bs they'll add or remove to lower the skill ceiling

[hoary hamlet]

i just enjoy the game though i'd like to see improvements

i've only been playing for like 2 months so i cant speak much on it

[plush burrow]

I enjoy the game too but now I'm technically a legal cheater

[deep linden]

I've been playing since S0

[hoary hamlet]

ohh ik

[hoary hamlet]

roller lover

[burnt stone]

for me i just play to improve and have good clips for myself, never cared about the development to that degree or console players and stuff, of course i want the game to get better but stressing it's direction is mid for me as there is nothing i can do about it or gain and i'll just be gatekeeping the fun i could be having atm

[deep linden]

It's just tiring trying to improve in something that doesn't even reward you but punishes you for improving

I wanted to be a competitive player so bad even during my CSGO days

I would go out of my way to try to invite my stack to run tourneys

At least Valorant/CSGO felt like if you were improving, you're not gonna get shit on with bullshit like SBMM/EOMM

[burnt stone]

true

[plush burrow]

Fuck man, keep crashing on kovaaks this is so annoying

[deep linden]

most casual rollers who complaing about "pros"/skilled players complaining don't even have skill

[burnt stone]

i ignore the community for the most part kekw

been playing against a lot of console players

it's kinda fun

[deep linden]

I view tap strafing in the same light as strafejumping in Quake

[burnt stone]

supergliding should have been removed instead lmao

[deep linden]

oh wait

wrong mechanic

kekw

[burnt stone]

xD

[deep linden]

Supergliding isn't even consistent enough to matter imo

[burnt stone]

cfg

[deep linden]

true

cfg things exist

but tap strafing?

Imagine this

[burnt stone]

i need sleep, sorry to hear about how you feel regarding the updates, will you still be playing?

[deep linden]

most likely not

I'm already trying out other games

[cinder plank]

Come to cs

[burnt stone]

valorant

[deep linden]

my CSGO stack has moved to Valorant

I guess I might follow them again

[burnt stone]

csgo i just don't feel like learning map nades

[cinder plank]

Lazy mf

[deep linden]

I know map nades already

[burnt stone]

there are too many

[deep linden]

but I don't really have people to play with if I'm sticking with it

[burnt stone]

takes too much time for such a simple thing

[hallow arrow]

just log on and throw all the nades whenever you open up cs

[deep linden]

at least Valorant would have a place for me imo

[hallow arrow]

you'll get it down in 1 week at most

[deep linden]

because my stack's already there

[cinder plank]

Exactly

[burnt stone]

took me a day lol

[cinder plank]

Yeah but u forgot a lot of the ones u dont use

[hallow arrow]

you learn 7 maps nades in 1 day?

[burnt stone]

i just forgot them again

[hallow arrow]

dudes a prodigy

[deep linden]

plus Valorant esports is popping off in SEA so maybe it might be able to sate my competitive nature

[cinder plank]

Just learn the ones u will use ez clap

[cinder plank]

If only cs had the same popularity

[deep linden]

true

but SEA people don't like skilled games that don't have abilities

[burnt stone]

more like 3-4 and started learning them for every angle but then it devolved into most useful/practical

[hallow arrow]

yea that makes sense

[hallow arrow]

val run easier

[cinder plank]

Dont forget free games

[burnt stone]

was hella helpful, but needing keybinds for certain things or having inconsistencies wasn't fun

[deep linden]

true

[hallow arrow]

sea stingy asf pc wise

[burnt stone]

felt more like cheese

[cinder plank]

Nah

[deep linden]

I already know some people that could help me get started on the competitive scene in Valorant

[hallow arrow]

parents really can just throw 2k into their children phone and then wont buy a half decent pc

[cinder plank]

U mean jump throw right

Ghosty

[hallow arrow]

thats sounds really nice

[burnt stone]

yeah

[deep linden]

might as well take the opportunity

[burnt stone]

felt stupid

[hallow arrow]

i couldnt get into it last time i wanted

[cinder plank]

Everyone uses it

[burnt stone]

i know

[deep linden]

my first experience with it was ass

i was top fragging a 0-13 lost game

all because my teammates didn't want me helping them learn the game + vod review

[hallow arrow]

i was so down bad i didnt wanted to play ranked but i was only dia1 so i cant find a decent team

so i joined an indian team

dudes stupid there

[burnt stone]

why do i need a keybind and to aim at a certain pixel in order to cross map this particular nade and learn so fucking many of them lmao

[cinder plank]

If u want to go pro in sea valorant probably ur best bet

Too bad i dont like the game

[hallow arrow]

valorant is a hard game to get into comp for me

[burnt stone]

information gating followed by weird keybinds for basic things annoy the shit out of me lol

[hallow arrow]

i only play with school friends thats gold/sliver having fun

[cinder plank]

Yeah not for everyone ig

[lost harbor]

keybinds for smoke/flash not being consistent

really annoys me

[burnt stone]

^^

[cinder plank]

Hold up hilo me seraph val team???

[burnt stone]

like valorant does it so good

[cinder plank]

Ez clapperinos

[lost harbor]

rat lobbies

pubs and ppl are playing like its ranked

[burnt stone]

sova if you play in high elo you learn the bounces and sink time into improving at high elo

but if you're gold or average just shoot the fucking arrow somewhere near the site

shouldn't have to put so much effort when you aren't even a high rank

[hallow arrow]

you could probably use it like a csgo flash and still make it work

gold players are smth else

[burnt stone]

yeah i just mean that the amount of effort needed to learn something so basic is stupid

asking for a dart is so much more newer friendly then asking for certain nades in cs

[cinder plank]

Eh

[burnt stone]

i was about as good as a average player but cause i was new my teammates would keep asking me to throw specific nades to cut off certain angles

[cinder plank]

My randoms know enough smokes for it not to be a problem

[burnt stone]

i just started the game and they already wanted me know that stuff kekw

[cinder plank]

But im asia so idk how it is in NA

[burnt stone]

i got to gold i think it was and was being asked every game/round if i knew or to throw certain nade spots and was flamed for not knowing

i remember having someone ask how are you in my rank and i was 3rd place just cause i didn't know a lot of things kekw

[hallow arrow]

i mean in val you could just use brim with the ipad

[cinder plank]

But sometimes people mess up that too

Gaps in smoke kekw

[burnt stone]

am going to bed now

nite

[hallow arrow]

gngn

[cinder plank]

Good night

Hilo

[hallow arrow]

yea

[cinder plank]

How old r u

[hallow arrow]

18

[hallow arrow]

whats sr

[cinder plank]

Damn

U could tutor me lmao

My sejarah sux

[hallow arrow]

i didnt have books for spm

you'll be fine probably

not like i got good results

[cinder plank]

Was spm hard

[merry dock]

does kvk even help with games

LOL

actually curious

my aim in val hasnt changed same with apex

[frail abyss]

yes

[cinder plank]

It helps but most of the time u wont notice it i think

[elfin thistle]

It helps me with apex

Not cs tho

[cinder plank]

Yeah helped with my apex

[merry dock]

in valorant its unchanged

in apex

i just flick

and try to track

like my smoothness

doesnt transfer

[elfin thistle]

Play pureg apex men

[frail abyss]

well that's a you issue

not a kovaak's not working issue

[cinder plank]

Wow torje

[merry dock]

i use ur reactivity playlist very cool man

[elfin thistle]

Torje tosic

M0ds

[cinder plank]

Torje ban when))

[elfin thistle]

bAn

Hello my name is mini mod andy

[cinder plank]

[elfin thistle]

[cinder plank]

Weirdly kovaaks helped with my cs

[elfin thistle]

I aim train for cs in cs

Idk about u

[cinder plank]

@merry dock i think you will notice it if you stop doing kovaaks

[elfin thistle]

I use that orange 1w 1t map

[cinder plank]

Ooh

[elfin thistle]

And aimbotz

[cinder plank]

I never really got into that

[hoary hamlet]

play more

[cinder plank]

Yeah and that

[hoary hamlet]

if you want improve at a game play more

[elfin thistle]

No way

Playing a game makes me better at it?

Impossible

[hoary hamlet]

i'd play you any day

[cinder plank]

[hoary hamlet]

😼

[cinder plank]

Damn

[elfin thistle]

[cinder plank]

Horny asia boys

[elfin thistle]

My friend just zoomed in in genshin

Into Baal's tiddies

[cinder plank]

Keep going

[hallow arrow]

i got 1A 3B 1C+ and 2D sooo it shouldnt be that hard

should've studied for it

[elfin thistle]

Thays where it ended

[hoary hamlet]

who baal/

[elfin thistle]

Booba sword

[cinder plank]

At least didnt fail lah

[elfin thistle]

How many subjects smh

[cinder plank]

If i fail my parents will murder me

[hallow arrow]

i didnt have any spm books so i aint complaining

[elfin thistle]

What subjects

[elfin thistle]

Lmao in my school

If you don't fail

[hallow arrow]

since i just take this as a side thing

[elfin thistle]

You're not in the school

[cinder plank]

Damn

[elfin thistle]

[cinder plank]

The subjects depend on what class u take i think

U gotta ask hilo

[elfin thistle]

Is hilo in uni

[hallow arrow]

english maths chinese science bm sejarah and moral

nah high school

last year

[elfin thistle]

Ah

Science

Not separated?

And what's moral

[cinder plank]

Moral is

[elfin thistle]

You learn about morals?

[cinder plank]

Common sense

[elfin thistle]

Kekw

[cinder plank]

Yeah

[elfin thistle]

Bruh

[cinder plank]

Its funny

[elfin thistle]

Good is good and bad is bad

Gotem

Ez A

[cinder plank]

Like the questions they ask

If u see a wallet

A) Yoink B)Yoink C) Give to popo

[elfin thistle]

I'm choosing A and B

Free money

[cinder plank]

😎

[elfin thistle]

Fuckin losers pick C

[hallow arrow]

there arent any multiple choice questions

[cinder plank]

Oh damn

I know u have to write like what you would do in that situation right

Or is it different

[elfin thistle]

I would take the money

And then steal his cards

[cinder plank]

Too far

[hallow arrow]

thats what i saw on the paper

[elfin thistle]

Max out his credit card on gift codes

[hallow arrow]

its my first time seeing the subject

so i cant tell if its normal or not

[elfin thistle]

Send all of them to a fence

Money laundering complete

Ez money

Get robbed nerd

A for morals

You're welcome

[cinder plank]

Ty

[elfin thistle]

You see morals is all about what's good and what's evil

[hoary hamlet]

why does pubs feel like ranked rn

[elfin thistle]

As the Greek word for good and evil mean beneficial and not beneficial respectively

As long as what I do is beneficial to me

It's good to me

Checkmate morally upright people

[hoary hamlet]

[latent vapor]

https://twitter.com/alphaINTEL/status/1433215075033264129

Apex Legends News (@alphaINTEL)

Respawn will "continue to evaluate" aim assist in Apex Legends, and devs will discuss the current balance of controller vs mouse & keyboard this week.

"Players should not feel forced to use a specific input type."

Retweets

253

Likes

4127

Twitter · Sep 1, 2021, 11:47 PM

[elfin thistle]

Inb4 aim assist adjusted to 0.7

[hallow arrow]

based

[elfin thistle]

Kekw in the replies

Someone said it barely pulls

And another dude says mouse and keyboard is for office use while controller is for real gaming

[plush burrow]

I wish I could clip

I'd just made replies to twitter with a 2 day controller player who literally has aimbot

These guys are so stupid

[merry dock]

ngl i like playing apex pubs its like easy LOL @hoary hamlet idk if thats alr

[plush burrow]

No actually they arnt

They are just shit and are so narrow minded and dog shit they don't even know that aim assist is their

[elfin thistle]

Some people want aim assist to be buffed

On console

But aim assist on pc to be nerfed

I'm confused

Do they think mnk gets aim assist or do they think that playing controller on a PC makes the controller magically better

[plush burrow]

Think about this, about why controller needs aim assist against pc players

So why is their aim assist in console lobbies

No one has ever answered this question

Their was no crossplay, aim assist was still their. Their was crossplay but console have their own lobbies they don't share with pc, they still have aim assist controller Vs controller

[latent vapor]

ppl think mnk = insta god

[plush burrow]

But they make the topic about they have aim assist to verse mnk

But that's not true

Aim assist was their before they could even verse mnk

[elfin thistle]

Someone's talking about their thumbs having aim assist

My guy believes his aim is pure skill

Despite aim assist

[latent vapor]

The fact you think there is no other advantage on mnk ahhhhhhhhhh. Bro you can use your whole arm to aim while I get a thumbstick. You also have better and freer movement due to the control of your camera you also have an entire keyboard and mouse to bind inputs to. As well as more fps better control of graphical settings and about 20 other things. Look at itztimmy he's a pro he went from bronze to pred in like 50hours yeah what controller player has ever done that.

a reply i found

[plush burrow]

From Ra apex chat 😂 was a funny find

[latent vapor]

idk basing a game around bronze players is wack

[elfin thistle]

Aim assist on mouse and keyboard guys

Controller players use movement to counter mnk aim

[hoary hamlet]

shrug

[latent vapor]

bruh what did i just read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVaTDXWEDOE

[hoary hamlet]

i tried 1680x1050

it felt like there was input delay i

[latent vapor]

what pc players aim looks like his

[hoary hamlet]

i clicked m1 it took about a sec or 2 to start shooting

[frail abyss]

aim assist is bullshit

[plush burrow]

Gens a god tier mnk player

[frail abyss]

but genburten is valid

no pc player's aim looks like his, sure

[hoary hamlet]

he's got good mnk aim as well

[frail abyss]

but no controller player either

[hoary hamlet]

i dont think any roller player out there has aim like him

[plush burrow]

I do

[hoary hamlet]

cap

😼

[plush burrow]

Swear down, one day gotta go in the range

After like 3 hours of pubs my avg damage went from 700 to 900 with roller

From mnk previous

[hoary hamlet]

jeez

[plush burrow]

It'll probably go to 1100 ish

[hoary hamlet]

a below average mnk player like me would be better just cause of roller if i tried it