Feels like input lag
#apex
empty thistle
small tangle
Hello again
I want to ask something about the Viscose Benchmarks
Does anyone have advice when I have to change the difficulty of the Benchmarks
mental ridge
the fuzz is about negative rc filters wich do the opposite of smoothing and amplify sensor noise
final forge
Well not really, pretty much all controllers have some sort of stick jitter. The aim assist boosters are mostly a gimmick to keep the aim assist active in games that have no 0 deadzone setting
Well yes and also no
Aint no way, i tried 0 and it felt like someone has smeared honey all over my stick. So sluggish no fine control. Even on my left stick in the menu i could instantly tell the diffrence
mental ridge
Well yes and also no
why no?
the way i understand it
negativ = jitter amplification
0 = raw input
positive = jitter smoothing
empty thistle
the way i understand it
negativ = jitter amplification
0 = raw input
positive =...
no the default is jitter smoothing
a lot of negative jitter values are readding the jitter that was removed by input smoothing
then high jitter values add extra so its amplificaiton
empty thistle
Aint no way, i tried 0 and it felt like someone has smeared honey all over my st...
nah to me it feels way more snappy
still decent fine control
just harder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiGERvetQmE this was with rc -9
final forge
why no?
Some controllers might have raw input but afaik most apply some sort of smoothing
mental ridge
Some controllers might have raw input but afaik most apply some sort of smoothin...
we are talking about controllers with the rc filter setting
mental ridge
no the default is jitter smoothing
isnt the default value some positive value?
empty thistle
we are talking about controllers with the rc filter setting
all rollers have it that use tmr
its just if the software lets u change anything
I swear after 30 mins of r5 my hands get still and I can't hit a stationary target
not sure whats going wrong
empty thistle
when im playing r5 I try to troubleshoot issues like in kovaaks
but it just makes me suck donkey balls
mental ridge
all rollers have it that use tmr
obviously thats why im talking about controllers that have a setting for it
static yacht
There is a hole yt channel that has this
This is some kind of area 51 flat eartheres cia level of shi
static yacht
There is a hole yt channel that has this
Is this a big troll
Take a look at his channel
This is mkultra of Apex
static yacht
https://youtu.be/j4mRxz0u-W8?is=xRzmTB6ACTwNUulJ
Nah I'm revisiting this channel again and this is pure insanity
I spent 4 months at psych ward and it was better than visiting this channel
quaint karma
https://youtu.be/j4mRxz0u-W8?is=xRzmTB6ACTwNUulJ
this the same guy who claimed the number of phoenix kits in your inventory affect your aim assist?
like i saw a video like that years ago and the guy was clearly mentally unwell
he posted on reddit too about this shit and how there was a big conspiracy to keep people from getting max aim assist
lol
static yacht
i can imagine game being spaghetti coded and shit like that
static yacht
i can imagine game being spaghetti coded and shit like that
but i wanted to get out of him some info just to test it
he refused saying it's all there in videos
"you can clearly see it bro"
quaint karma
only weird thing is that the alc per optics menu affects normal sens even with alcs turned off, but thats is easily explained by it only being in the alcs menu in the UI
and in the background it just sets a flag whether its on or off
even if you turn alcs off it doesnt get turned off
quaint karma
what does he have to say about the fact that basically every good player just plays 4-3
or 4-1
static yacht
is there a compass in firing range?
quaint karma
and no weird shit like this
quaint karma
is there a compass in firing range?
unfortunately no
quaint karma
yes
static yacht
As you can use it to 360 and then calculate offset
quaint karma
there was a video testing old call of duty aim assist values all the way back to cod 2
disproving the fact that old games didnt have rotational AA or lesser AA or something like that
static yacht
or 4-1
this one I don't get
MgClutch uses 4-1 with everything set to 3.0
Placebo?
final forge
we are talking about controllers with the rc filter setting
Depends on the roller. I only have gamesir ones and i can certainly say 0 on the gamesir is not raw input
quaint karma
the alc per optics just get multplied with the values for 1 ADS
1 ADS is 35 yaw 35 pitch
mental ridge
nah this guy is just an ultra schizo
well bleed over exists... both ways
quaint karma
works out to 105 105
mental ridge
Depends on the roller. I only have gamesir ones and i can certainly say 0 on the...
hm ok
static yacht
works out to 105 105
While regular is like
quaint karma
3 is 110 75
mental ridge
no 110
static yacht
4-3 is loved because you get lower horizontal sens
static yacht
4-3 is loved because you get lower horizontal sens
So I don't get usage of 4-1
mental ridge
if you reset alcs you see 3 3 classic smal deadzone
quaint karma
easier to track targets moving vertically
easier to control recoil
especially useful on scopes that are not 1x
mental ridge
So I don't get usage of 4-1
4 1 has quadratic ads?
static yacht
what's that
quaint karma
you can track falling or rising targets without having to unADS
mental ridge
what's that
same x y
quaint karma
1 is 35 35
final forge
Yes the whole point of alc per optic is same x y
quaint karma
it also multiplies the extra yaw and pitch yeah
but not the other values
but those are meaningless, they only come into play when you reach the outer deadzone
and being in the AA bubble fully turns off any extra yaw or pitch effects
mental ridge
well i couldn't care less about low sense roller settings
shits for skill less bots
mental ridge
people call gen burtons 140 ads already fast as fuck
quaint karma
he plays 130 130 not 140 140
mental ridge
yeah 5 years ago maybe
and people still called it fast
quaint karma
nothing crazy tbh
i think in their heads they just cant differentiate his twitchy hipfire sens from the ads sens
mental ridge
anything below 250 is pisslow territory
quaint karma
250 is higher than 4 hipfire before extra yaw kicks in
idk man
sounds unplayable to me
mental ridge
sounds unplayable to me
i hit master in s11 and s14 on 500 ads
quaint karma
console master 
mental ridge
console master <:beesive:602844658443485196>
pc
final forge
250 is higher than 4 hipfire before extra yaw kicks in
According to your statement 250 is equal to 7 but that does not sound right to me
quaint karma
raw numbers from the files
mental ridge
According to your statement 250 is equal to 7 but that does not sound right to m...
nah 250 is quiet controlled
250 ads is slower than 250 hipfire
final forge
raw numbers from the files
Aha so its not linear
quaint karma
no idea how they decided on these numbers tbh
seems rather random
for most players anything above 5-4 is probably unplayable
and 2 hipfire is also unplayable
so is 1 ADS unless you modify it with alc per optics
2 is borderline
so effectively theres very few sensitivities to play
and ALCs are just straight up worse
mental ridge
for most players anything above 5-4 is probably unplayable
its only unplayable in linear i played 7 response curve no deadzone
quaint karma
true i guess
forgot people play other response curves
feels awful to me tbh
even classic feels terrible
mental ridge
it definitely takes time to get used to fast ads or hipfire but its doable. i started low and worked my way up over 1 or 2 years
mental ridge
even classic feels terrible
classic is 10
mental ridge
i played 500 500 400 400 5 rc and 0dz for a while and kept pushing it
mental ridge
with the wrong vel angle cutoff value
vel angle cut off? whats that?
outer threshold ?
willow hill
Sup chat
quaint karma
no one knows exactly
willow hill
Yall doing good today?
mental ridge
Yall doing good today?
no were talking about roller
haughty bay
Lol
mental ridge
quaint karma
i had chatgpt analyze it and see what other games do but i forgot what exactly it said
quaint karma
but
willow hill
You triggered meeeee
quaint karma
the different base sensitivities all have different vel angle cutoff values until its set to -1 for the highest ones
and in ALCs you cant modify it
i assume in ALCs its also -1
mental ridge
and in ALCs you cant modify it
whats the alc name for that cut of angle?
mental ridge
ah
quaint karma
which is the reason ALCs are worse
mental ridge
miss read
quaint karma
and from some limited testing i did ages ago, its harder to catch up to a target because the AA bubble slows you down before you get back on target in ALCs
so i assume its because the higher sensitivities it wont slow you down as much
and youre kind of forced to play higher sens in ALCs
japanese community apparently calls that part of the AA aim assist c
but they dont seem to know it has to do with target angle vel cutoff
sorry, target angle vel cutoff is the full name
mental ridge
you cant modify it
i Googled it and the cut off angle seems to be the outer threshold. google ai says its the point at wich you reach max turnspeed
quaint karma
no
thats something else
i mean this is what google AI gives me
same thing it gave me last time
but its just reading the reddit threads ive already read
just gave you the wrong name before, mb
long day today
final forge
its only unplayable in linear i played 7 response curve no deadzone
Yeah but thats probably very close to 3 linear for the first 30% of stick input
final forge
and ALCs are just straight up worse
Yes but no, objectively per optic bleedthrough is better
mental ridge
sounds like a high speed difference reduces aimassist
quaint karma
i dont really think about it too much since you cant directly modify it anyways
and in practice 4-1 and 4-3 are very similar, except for the vertical horizontal mismatch
even though they have different values
for target angle vel cutoff
target angle vel cutoff values for base sensitivities
static yacht
but they dont seem to know it has to do with target angle vel cutoff
What's that btw?
mental ridge
and in practice 4-1 and 4-3 are very similar, except for the vertical horizontal...
on 4 1 the value is so your aimassist gets reduced quicker?
quaint karma
cant remember, read the chatgpt thread
i think it gave me a few ways to interpret it
in practice 4-3 and 4-1 feel almost the same for me
except for what i said
i didnt actually give it the files in the end cuz i got bored
but if someone cares more im sure they could
quaint karma
What's that btw?
hidden, unmodifiable value that makes up part of the apex controller sens
static yacht
In what way is what I'm asking
static yacht
I kept seeing it mentioned after that post
mental ridge
What's that btw?
Basically a value that determines when aimassist gets weaker so you can turn over enemies without beeing stuck
static yacht
Angle in which slowdown works?
quaint karma
thats what it seems to do according to testing
but i just assume that ALCs have it set to -1
it could be something else
unlikely though
static yacht
-1 in stuff like that means default value most of the time
mental ridge
Angle in which slowdown works?
when your turning speed is close max aimassist and this value determines how much faster or slower you gotta turn for aimassist to get reduced
quaint karma
yeah but what is the default value
quaint karma
all ik is ALCs feel noticeably worse because of this
cant really play slow sens on them
static yacht
As you have different sens so you can't even use time it takes to 360
mental ridge
-1 sounds like like its permently off
mental ridge
so constantly max aimassist slowdown
mental ridge
in other words alc have stronger aimassist?
quaint karma
thats probably the reason gen doesnt play a lower ADS sens
quaint karma
in other words alc have stronger aimassist?
i mean i guess you could arrive at that conclusion
mental ridge
i mean i guess you could arrive at that conclusion
i guess
quaint karma
whether it actually feels better to play is a different story
static yacht
Who does even play alc?
quaint karma
gen
static yacht
Except gen and wxltzy
quaint karma
static yacht
2 weeks ago I checked both of them
quaint karma
unlucky used to play 5-3 about a year ago or so
static yacht
Which is why I decided to check
quaint karma
and i think wxltzy played the same but most people swapped to lower hipfire sens
no pro plays alcs anymore
other than gen
not for years
you maybe found their old sens on liquipedia @static yacht
page hasnt been updated since 2023
static yacht
probably
quaint karma
or parts of it were updated then
other stuff is very outdated
most pros were already on 4-3 or 4-1 in 2023
static yacht
it's over.
static yacht
Zaine?
quaint karma
hes not very good at those
static yacht
Is that from citadel?
mental ridge
aimassist maxing
static yacht
I have no shame
quaint karma
idk what team hes on now
static yacht
quaint karma
zuni is mnk
static yacht
I mixed them up
quaint karma
but yeah i think he should play higher classic sens or just swap to linear
i can tell hes struggling close range
static yacht
4-4 good?
quaint karma
why not
static yacht
I still can't bring myself to reads
quaint karma
4-3 is more consistent
quaint karma
slower is always better, to an extent
haughty bay
Zuni swapped????
quaint karma
Feels like I'm handicapped
are you new to controller?
haughty bay
Wtf
static yacht
Feels like I'm handicapped
Like I'm Mike Tyson but if he had not turnable neck from batman
static yacht
are you new to controller?
30-40 hours
mental ridge
Feels like I'm handicapped
u want to be handicapped. controller is less about beeing mechanically good but beeing a gamesense steered centry
quaint karma
gonna take a while longer to get used to it
static yacht
still thinking about going back to mnk
haughty bay
How many hours on mnk
static yacht
400
haughty bay
Stay on mnk
quaint karma
and faster than 3 ADS horizontal
haughty bay
Fuck controller 😂
static yacht
Stay on mnk
I play like an hour per week
haughty bay
Ohhh
haughty bay
Yeah then controller is better in this case tbf
static yacht
Having 9-5 = being a 40yo dad with 5 kids skillwise
haughty bay
Ahahah
quaint karma
well i recommend 4-1
and something like 3.2 or higher
not too high, will be too fast for your stick control
static yacht
well i recommend 4-1
Im actually not sure if it's same horizontally
I remember switching back and force between alc and 4-3 and
Because of how much you have to pull down on 4-3
quaint karma
yeah 3 is 110 75 like i said
static yacht
I think I would have felt diff between 110 75 and 105 105
static yacht
I'm schizomaxxing at this point
quaint karma
i can confirm
static yacht
I'll just play
Kazakh from Horde swapped to roller despite being like
Top 5 mnk eu
That's why I decided to try
quaint karma
did he really
static yacht
Well kinda
quaint karma
yeah cuz that guy is garbage
quaint karma
static yacht
But scrims, ranked all controller
quaint karma
wont affect the elo
you can go from wrong elo to your correct elo in like 2h of playing easily
static yacht
Can you see separate MnK and roller stats?
Do they add up together?
To count accuracy for example
?
quaint karma
no but 800 mnk kills and 7830 controller kills
unless he played mnk on there recently it shoudlnt affect it
i mean its all relative, i guess 600+ elo is not too bad
but miles behind the best players
i mean this is jsut 1v1s
strafe matters
plus people are much harder to hit on here than in-game
static yacht
still idk why
People told me "strafe mismatch is why I don't play r5" but what does it actually mean
Do they talk about
quaint karma
smg strafe speed is faster on r5 than in retail
static yacht
No slowdown?
quaint karma
lsat i checked
quaint karma
apex adjusted it in retail ages ago
quaint karma
for shotguns and smgs
static yacht
183 for AD?
quaint karma
idk the exact numbers
just know it was in the patch notes like 2 years ago
and r5 strafes feel faster
empty thistle
I feel like r5 has weird desync issues too
some one will like not move then do 5 ad spams in 1 second
atleast for me when I play na
quaint karma
all that is to say, r5 doesnt really play like the real game
its good for getting better though
empty thistle
I'm still waiting for the get better part 🥀
I've been hard plateaued since being sick
quaint karma
maybe you just reached your controller baseline and you had to work your way up to it
now the real improvement begins
quaint karma
yeah thats kinda unusual right
unless youre new to something
or havent done the thing in a long time
empty thistle
but I feel like im still worse than when I was sick, and my elo + acc reflects the same
rly thought the 2 weeks of grinding through it would bear some fruit
quaint karma
i mean when i used to aimtrain sometimes there were weeks where i didnt get a pb in certain stuff
and then miraculously one day i would have a crazy pb and you know how it goes
empty thistle
praying that happens
just told myself I need to spam 100 hours of r5
then reassess
quaint karma
im consistently above 800 elo on r5 now all the time
even been playing my old 1k hz controller and swapped between 4 controllers the other day and stayed above 800
empty thistle
I've just yoyo'd around 550 elo mostly
peaked back up to 630ish a few times but quickly fell back
quaint karma
i used to go from very high 600s on bad days to just under 800 or maybe a tiny bit above it
when i didnt grind r5 every day
huge range
i mean like i said, i used to also get on and just warm up for a round
that shit drops your elo
true ravine
r5 has elo now?
quaint karma
the other day i thought itd touch 900+ but the round before was shit cuz i was testing raandom settings
so didnt happen
quaint karma
r5 has elo now?
for a few months now
true ravine
crazy, gotta play it again
quaint karma
peaked back up to 630ish a few times but quickly fell back
youll get to 700 in time
700s is really good already
so not exactly true that kazakh is shit for being mid 600
but yk
its all relative
most pros are like 700 to 900
some above 900 but theres not a lot of people above 900
like 30 people
out of 20k players
stable magnet
what is elo?
quaint karma
and most of them arent pro
stable magnet
how to see our elo
quaint karma
near impossible to have elo that high if youre not controller
quaint karma
well i play controller
so
wouldnt be up there otherwise
i was gaining elo playing mnk in the 700s the other day
but you play mostly just against mnk and most of them suck
so idk lol
static yacht
but you play mostly just against mnk and most of them suck
Damage output difference is insane
Between best mnk players and average rollers
static yacht
Yeah
static yacht
Between best mnk players and average rollers
I bring my hands back on mnk once in a while on r5 and it's a two clip fight most of the time
95% of the time I would say
On controller you might get oneclipped every eehhh
Second time
quaint karma
the numbers are much closer if you just look at SMG stats
stable magnet
yeah, you do
static yacht
I know strafe makes a difference and all that but still
quaint karma
controller still wins on acc tho
i mean its an idealized scenario
from my experience it doesnt play out like this in-game
at least not if youve reached a certain skill level
mechanically
static yacht
from my experience it doesnt play out like this in-game
?
you mean it's not that onesided
In actual game?
quaint karma
i barely even notice if im fighting mnk or controller in-game
static yacht
True
quaint karma
and you also cant tell by your teammtes or enemies damage numbers
so it must be even in some way
static yacht
I guess no slowdown makes a difference as you have less skillgap as you have lower strafe speed
If we take straight 1v1s
quaint karma
and yeah, r5 is very ideal for controller, faster strafes, everyones wraith and on top of that wraith has a smaller hitbox than in retail
and she already has the smallest hitbox in the game
much easier to hit shots in-game
static yacht
why is it r5 again?
quaint karma
thats the name of the exe
static yacht
thats the name of the exe
oh that's it?
quaint karma
apex exe
cant rememebr what r5 stands for
and technically r5 is r5reloaded but everyone calls it r5
empty thistle
youll get to 700 in time
ye just need to put in the work
saw a lot of preds are only like 400 or 500 elo
final forge
I feel like r5 has weird desync issues too
It has, there Im also convinced that the aimassist does not work properly sometimes and lags behind messing with your aim
mental ridge
saw a lot of preds are only like 400 or 500 elo
because gamesense is king
you got masters gamesense but not pred gamesense. masters and preds play 2 different games
half salmon
hide the ranked badge at the top right
and pretend you are playing pubs
unpatched method psychologicalmaxxing
empty thistle
because gamesense is king
also just who u play with icl
empty thistle
It has, there Im also convinced that the aimassist does not work properly someti...
ye idk its weird af
like earlier today I was on a 0,5kd
couldnt hit shit something felt off
restarted my game
right back to 2kd
idk if im schizo or its real
idk if my strafe got good
but my acc is always super low yet having a good kd recently
be sitting on a 1.8kf with 34% acc somehow
I'm trying to play 2 hrs of r5 each day now anyway
till I can comfortably hold like 700
not going for pred this split so no point rushing to masters
lost fulcrum
anyone want to run ranked today?
rose wraith
anyone want to run ranked today?
what server
lost fulcrum
what server
eu but na ping isnt that bad for me
mental ridge
idk if my strafe got good
we can 1v1 and i judge your strafe
small tangle
Can someone recommend me scenarios to play cuz I can't hit a single bullet on AD DA strafes
pale scroll
Can someone recommend me scenarios to play cuz I can't hit a single bullet on AD...
do you have aimbeast?
actually that might be too hard
play jade palace fundamentals
mental ridge
holy shit my gf didnt play for 3 months wanted to play a bit of wildcard so we warmed up in firingrange and she literally outbeamed me
aimassist is busted
pale scroll
(ur also gold tho)
small tangle
play jade palace fundamentals
I will check it
pale scroll
I will check it
It is a benchmark, u can find the scenarios using evxl.app
small tangle
Like when I am lurching in Apex I can beam u but at the second I start AD strafing I can't hit a single shot
Thank you a lot
final forge
ye idk its weird af
ok today was a banger, I farmed, +100elo in 3 games
main merlin
This season kinda making me wanna take a break tbh. Axel and conduit are basically must picks or you are trolling now.
willow hill
Abilities legends
main merlin
Apex has been ability legends for awhile just they cranked it up even more now
elder kayak
Will this mouse make me a aimbot in apex?
pale scroll
Will this mouse make me a aimbot in apex?
yes
elder kayak
you buy a cronus too
Whats that
pale scroll
Whats that
a device for the disabled
elder kayak
a device for the disabled
Oh hell nah 😭
pale scroll
Oh hell nah 😭
that is used as a cheating tool
elder kayak
that is used as a cheating tool
No i don't want to use cronus i only want to use mouse
elder kayak
No u didn't
elder kayak
it was 50/50 bannable
Really
elder kayak
Lol
pale scroll
all the bannable ones I have to scroll for
pale scroll
<@443944103571619844> but do you think mouse matters for aiming?
absolutely
if you want a good budget mouse
I strongly recommend the vxe r1
elder kayak
Lemme check
pale scroll
I'm using the vxe r1 se+ rn and it's really good for the price
elder kayak
absolutely
What about mouse pad
pale scroll
but I would get r1 pro, I think it's better
pale scroll
What about mouse pad
Depends on your current mouse/mousepad combination
In reality it's not mouse + mousepad, it's also mouse + skates + mousepad
if you use different mouse skates it will feel completely different
elder kayak
In reality it's not mouse + mousepad, it's also mouse + skates + mousepad
I see
elder kayak
but I would get r1 pro, I think it's better
Its around 45 to 55 dollars
pale scroll
Infinitymice speed for around 40, a matrova is around 40
elder kayak
should be a lot less
Is this mouse better than razor viper mini?
pale scroll
Is this mouse better than razor viper mini?
vxe should be a bit lighter, wireless, better sensor
but shape is king
elder kayak
Infinitymice speed for around 40, a matrova is around 40
I see
elder kayak
vxe should be a bit lighter, wireless, better sensor
Ohh
pale scroll
stuff like aqua control 2 mousepad is around $30, under $40 there are a lot of good options. depends on what you want
elder kayak
stuff like aqua control 2 mousepad is around $30, under $40 there are a lot of g...
I want to beam people in apex with r9
pale scroll
I want to beam people in apex with r9
not related to mouse at all haha
as long as ur not buying a brick
there is a best mouse for you, but not a best mouse for a game
elder kayak
there is a best mouse for you, but not a best mouse for a game
What do you mean 🤔
pale scroll
you can compare shapes on eloshapes.com or on https://findmymouse.com/
pale scroll
What do you mean 🤔
It's preference
Mice nowadays will have very good quality even at a cheap price
elder kayak
It's preference
Oh
pale scroll
so what really matters is what type of mouse you want
hump location, hump size, button height, etc
elder kayak
hump location, hump size, button height, etc
Oh i see my hands are generally big
So i like palm grip
rustic shoal
Suction ting
ebon dust
Infinitymice speed for around 40, a matrova is around 40
Elite5 also has some really nice pads
dull falcon
is apex still fucked
tame island
So you're telling me this whole time tap strafing is so fucking simple 😭 like i just came back to apex since s16 and i was banned for 7 days and i decided to start learning real movement
pale scroll
So you're telling me this whole time tap strafing is so fucking simple 😭 like i...
ye but using it with wall bounces + lurches is a lot harder
tame island
ye but using it with wall bounces + lurches is a lot harder
I'm gonna guess lurches is that fucking cracked out octane movement?
tame island
I can probably try to learn cause isn't it good on axle?
And I'm sure I'll figure out wall bouncing with it i have my keyboard actuation points really low should i keep my wasd low?
So is lurching adding move back input too with the move forward from what I'm reading?
I think i lowkey found something to work on when i take my adderall cause lowkey aim training on it has gotten to the point where my aim has been really good when I'm like lowkey out of it cause at that state my heart rate med is the only thing active i lowkey can become cracked at apex if i practice these movement techs
Rn I'm just messing around hella tired
rose wraith
I can probably try to learn cause isn't it good on axle?
lurching = changing direction in air
it + slide jumping + stowing weapons as you move are the trinity of apex movement
for pc*
if you only learn two things, learn how to tap strafe and learn how to slide jump stow deploy weapoins
tame island
if you only learn two things, learn how to tap strafe and learn how to slide jum...
So it's 2 different things put into one?
rose wraith
question makes no sense to me
tame island
If it don't make sense ignore it I'm like burnt I've been up since 7am and my adderall contributed to that cause I'm prescribed to take it twice a day
Like my brain is so fried idk how to describe it
@rose wraith since you're a coach so my buddy also plays apex and he recently got kovaaks I'm gonna have him buy a nice mousepad so i have my own playlist and stuff and I'm capable of putting playlists together you think it would be good to put him on what i do or you think i should make him do a bootcamp of the viscose benchmark before putting him on something that isn't easy like he has good aim but like the fundamentals of the aim training is difficult i plan on getting him up there so at one point we can make a run for pred
My own playlist was soley made for overwatch but it lowkey really helped getting back into apex
rose wraith
i think he should play lots of apex and also spend lots of time practicing running through the firing range anti mirroring dummies
tame island
i think he should play lots of apex and also spend lots of time practicing runni...
Funny thing you say anti mirroring one of my daily kovaaks scenarios is close mid anti mirror
rose wraith
also make him sprint between two different loot boxes in the firing range and have him practice pulling out a completely new kitted weapon as fast as possible then going to the next box and doinng it again with a different weapon
a sense of urgency during the post squad-wipe reset
comfort and calm tracking during up close fights
these are probably where beginners experience the most pain
rose wraith
i mean
sure
its a scenario you can do
but most of what i would give a new apex player are in game drills
tame island
Yea in game drills are important but certain things i like doing in kovaaks cause i shut off my brain and just follow the glowing green target less going on if you understand what I'm saying like in overwatch coaches will tell players use the custom game code vaxta which is used for practicing aim and stuff on bots but like there's so much going on when you have alot of bots making noise and all that stuff
tame island
is its movements you will find in game
Oh for sure but like I've been practicing anti mirroring in i find it better aiming wise than in game but there's certain characters you need to do in game but the characters i play which you know doesn't make a difference if i do it in kovaaks or in game
Before my 7 day vacation i was lowkey frying people with the sentinel one thing i do in kovaaks is fast dynamic clicking that involes micro correction and it helps me hit headshots in fast pace fights i also have one clip killing an octane trying to get away with his jump pad using iron sights because i also do bounce dynamic clicking and i didn't have to guess and take a shot it naturally happened idk but i feel like aim training routine on top of in game training has been really beneficial
haughty bay
are you new to mnk?
tame island
This is what i genuinely use for my keybord settings should i change any of these or is this fine if i'm trying to learn movement techs
tame island
are you new to mnk?
No but i haven't really gotten invested in like actual keyboards like my current one is a monsgeek fun60 ultra tmr
haughty bay
oh okok
tame island
I've had it for a year
before that i had a cheap $30 redragon keyboard that had their red switches then i went to that keyboard it was $90 which i don't think is too bad it has a metal body and all that and the akko magnetic switches that's in it are really amazing i was gonna buy jade pros when i got this but stuck with the switches it came with
haughty bay
nice
tame island
Ngl magnetic switches are a must in apex like movement just feels so much better than mechanical
haughty bay
yeah i have magnetic switches aswell
tame island
My buddy plays on a one handed keyboard it's mechanical i gotta try to convince him to get a magnetic keyboard cause he does like movement stuff and it'll be better for him if he uses magnetic
I wished apex let you change the color of the crosshair like reticle is nice but i hate how the crosshair is white
Did any of yall used the glowing reticle when it was a thing before they patched it i miss that shit
I just noticed with the right timings on hitting axle nitro you can technically chage the direction of where it boosts you canceling the jump but it moves you the direction like the tap strafe but it keeps you sliding that's probably gonna be super helpful
I'm still messing around with movement to get more of a feel with tap strafing
This is super useful actually cause if you're getting chased and you throw it down you can change direction while the enemy gets lunched forward
Are the servers cooked rn I'm getting hit with all the indicators all of the sudden
haughty bay
They are fine on my side
mental ridge
Are the servers cooked rn I'm getting hit with all the indicators all of the sud...
are you planning high ranked ?
tame island
are you planning high ranked ?
Yea like me and my buddy are plat 3 currently we would've been diamond if u didn't had a 7 day vacation and he didn't work
mental ridge
Yea like me and my buddy are plat 3 currently we would've been diamond if u didn...
plat 3 isnt high ranked. so it aint the anti ddos servers...
tame island
Nah i think the server was cooked during the day and you know there's after math and like there was high diamond squads in the lobbies that we was getting
empty thistle
we got the kai cenat upgrade 🔥
tight totem
damn theres no "bro"
elder kayak
next would be PewDiePie
bright slate
W kai ❤️🩹
small tangle
It is a benchmark, u can find the scenarios using evxl.app
The scenarios you gave me are good and I am silver on then
But after warming up with them it felt better and shooting AD
mental ridge
severe canyon
You don’t even understand Sisyphus’ struggle you stupid bastard
lost fulcrum
You don’t even understand Sisyphus’ struggle you stupid bastard
mb bro you knew what i meant
severe canyon
Bro I’m no joke gonna treat you like a reverse piñata if your headass doesn’t delete this post… 👊
elder kayak
severe canyon
Yo same my bad bro
severe canyon
Link?
severe canyon
Took 15 adderral
lusty cliff
yo just wondering
whats the 1728x1080p res to 1440p monitor
i changed monitor recently but i only play at res
severe canyon
whats the 1728x1080p res to 1440p monitor
2304x1440
Holy shit I’m on a roll
Anyone else got questions?
severe canyon
why does my r5 keep running like a potato
Uninstall and play the main game
Next question
lost fulcrum
the servers r down
lost fulcrum
Next question
what now
haughty bay
the servers r down
I was about to hop on lol
lost fulcrum
cant play r5 cant play apex time to go outside
outer sleet
cant play r5 cant play apex time to go outside
Time for kovaaks
severe canyon
id like to second going outside instead of kovaaks
wintry cypress
what if i already went outside today
severe canyon
i think youre allowed out twice generally
severe canyon
tame island
whats the 1728x1080p res to 1440p monitor
Bro bought a 1440p monitor and not using the resolution i play on 2560x1600
final cedar
just a question guys , what do u think is the highest rank realistically achievable on controller on VT benchmarks s3?plssss lmk i have like 0 refrence
wintry cypress
Bro bought a 1440p monitor and not using the resolution i play on 2560x1600
uhhhhh
tame island
I do but it's weird playing on these resolution
final forge
Bro bought a 1440p monitor and not using the resolution i play on 2560x1600
only correct 16:10 resolution for apex on a 1440p monitor
wintry cypress
How do u even play on 1600 height when a 1440p monitor only has 1440 height
severe canyon
i will not be answering questions anymore
i will be forwarding all tickets to deepseek
pale scroll
How do u even play on 1600 height when a 1440p monitor only has 1440 height
you don't
wintry cypress
Exactly
willow hill
Yo boys
How we doing
Remember if you’re on roller you are soft
Hope yall have a good day
quaint karma
How do u even play on 1600 height when a 1440p monitor only has 1440 height
the engine scales it down
it works, i used to play on 3200x2000
just makes the game sharper despite running non-native res
wintry cypress
ahh
idk i have bad experiences with downscaling
my frametimes would be all over the place and my games start bugging the hell out
so i just dont use it anymore
dull falcon
Remember if you’re on roller you are soft
copium
body dismorphia but for mnk. ig it would be aim dysmorphia
idk
mnk will make u feel like shit
final forge
idk i have bad experiences with downscaling
downscaling good, upscaling bad
final forge
it works, i used to play on 3200x2000
i used to play 3840x2880, never had any issues but its sadly still not quiete as sharp as native
quaint karma
i used to play 3840x2880, never had any issues but its sadly still not quiete as...
yeah i also played this for a bit
static yacht
i used to play 3840x2880, never had any issues but its sadly still not quiete as...
Are you packing 5090 bro
haughty bay
Are the servers still down ???
pale scroll
just makes the game sharper despite running non-native res
it physically cannot
make it sharper. there are only so many pixels
how is it making it sharper? more accurate pixel colors?
quaint karma
how is it making it sharper? more accurate pixel colors?
same way downscaling has always worked
theres also games that let you set more than 100% render resolution
same thing
pale scroll
https://www.nvidia.cn/en-us/geforce/technologies/dsr/technology/
ty, that's a good read
wintry cypress
im robbing u
final forge
brother in crime
static yacht
I imagine your GPU load would be like
70-80% with 300 fps in that res
Which is insane for a game like apex
final forge
70-80% with 300 fps in that res
i have like 50% on 4k 240
static yacht
3840 2880 should be muuuuch more GPU demanding
Wait it shouldn't
I'm just yapping it's 3840 2160
Should make a difference but not that much
final forge
like 20% more pixels not that much
lusty cliff
Bro bought a 1440p monitor and not using the resolution i play on 2560x1600
who is you bro 😭
bright slate
brother in crime
grafikkarten und anzeigen
oak veldt
https://www.nvidia.cn/en-us/geforce/technologies/dsr/technology/
I can do this on amd right
I just dunno if it’s worth it for me
final forge
I can do this on amd right
for apex you can just use -w -h to as launch commands to set any resolution you want
8k is the upper limit
anything else is valid
severe canyon
Remember if you’re on roller you are soft
I’m hard
oak veldt
for apex you can just use -w -h to as launch commands to set any resolution you ...
ah thanks
idk if i can run 300 fps at 4k tho
i can at 1440p
final forge
idk if i can run 300 fps at 4k tho
thats complete overkill if you dont have a 4k monitor
you only want to use slighly higher resolutions for streched resolutions, like 2560x1600 instead of the 2304x1440 that most people use
oak veldt
you only want to use slighly higher resolutions for streched resolutions, like 2...
oh i got you
idk if i wanna play stretched so i guess best to not mess w this setting then
quaint karma
oh i got you
idk if i wanna play stretched so i guess best to not mess w this se...
just play a different res then
you could try 3200x1800
but i dont see too much a point of this unless youre playing strechted res
native is very clear already
deep linden
final forge
what do you need that for
i don't
its completely pointless
I just wanted to max out my mini itx board
oak veldt
native is very clear already
yeah thats what i was thinking
quaint karma
I just wanted to max out my mini itx board
i hope you got this before the ram price increase
😭
final forge
i hope you got this before the ram price increase
jup, payed ~400$
and my second 96gb kit i got for 280$ i think
tame island
i hope you got this before the ram price increase
Ram price is crazy i was thinking upgrading my laptop to 64gb back in november but i ended up buying a 9100 pro 4tb instead it was cheaper but both skyrocketed ☠️
smoky bison
i hit my first apex clutch
outer sleet
i hit my first apex clutch
Dude also you need to go into your gameplay settings and turn everything on compact / minimal
Way too much visual clutter on your screen
smoky bison
Dude also you need to go into your gameplay settings and turn everything on comp...
Yeah I’ve been using it to learn the game since I just started
sullen nimbus
is that real
mental ridge
is that real
empty thistle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1484521263199424604/1488922371992846527/t...
Now that’s real
mental ridge
Now that’s real
twitter is real
X
its funny how gamesir thinks gibby is slow
even the top comment is pointing it out
severe canyon
It’s not that it’s 8000hz
I think if it’s blue your character goes faster
And gold
static yacht
Genuinely can anyone do a blind test on a roller between 1k and 8k
I bet my balls you wouldn't feel any difference and it's a placebo only thing
severe canyon
mental ridge
am i cool now?
mental ridge
but ngl r5reloaded is dogshit so many times i get stuttering and rubberbanding enemies
and obviously they kill me
keen scarab
but ngl r5reloaded is dogshit so many times i get stuttering and rubberbanding e...
sometimes it's a coinflip on who loaded in half a second earlier
empty thistle
and sometimes u will get 5 no regs on a 10hp enemy
I swear some of the top players just have the best connection and eat the most bullets
wintry cypress
I bet my balls you wouldn't feel any difference and it's a placebo only thing
Yeah u probably wouldnt
lost fulcrum
but ngl r5reloaded is dogshit so many times i get stuttering and rubberbanding e...
bro the stuttering is so annoying
keen scarab
man how do people play wildcard
rose wraith
man how do people play wildcard
It sucks I can’t lie
You land on someone and before they’re even knocked someone lands on you
It’s ass
10 teams to cage
silver vapor
https://x.com/i/status/2057778514711990693
gibby being faster than octane stim begs to differ 
tame island
I noticed a difference from 1k polling to 4k on m&k it was slight but i noticed
mental ridge
gibby being faster than octane stim begs to differ <:emoticigar:1308498408507572...
gibby sprints none stop barely slower octane has cooldowns
silver vapor
gibby sprints none stop barely slower octane has cooldowns
gibby is faster
thats the point
doesnt help in combat but moving around the map is easier
mental ridge
are you trying to tell me that im right?
sly lynx
tame island
It's crazy how my buddy played apex longer than me and he off and on plays mirage the other night he was like everytime i pop my ult they instantly know and fuck me and I'm like bro you know mirage blinks a few times when his ukt goes off 😭
pale scroll
It's crazy how my buddy played apex longer than me and he off and on plays mirag...
I did not know this
tame island
Bro
He blinks like 3 times when he pops it's really easy to spot if he popped it and you have high ground
Next time you fight a mirage and he pops ult pay attention and you'll see it
Like my buddy kept getting butt fucked cause the enemy payed attention and didn't have to guess
Or wait for him to shoot
violet crane
cocu56as IF ANYONE WANT A FUN EASY CUSTOM
tame island
I love apex you can mess around and be good or you can do whatever you can to get a duo pissed and get a clip
Seeing so many people with 4k 20 badge is so cringe like how much inflated did these badges get over the last 2 years
jolly bridge
what sens do you guys use?
mental ridge
what sens do you guys use?
1600 0.6-0.9
mental ridge
was playing on too fast of a sens
beginner mistakes
bright slate
25cm 🧘♂️
mental ridge
@empty thistle you remember the German streamer shit storm? i failed to mention that we have a song about the bad best friend cheating with the boyfriend.
and in the background you can see the exposer dancing to it
also auto generated subtitles seem to be accurate enough
also can you ping the right flip
empty thistle
<@199182952524021761> you remember the German streamer shit storm? i failed to m...
Bros balls deep in niche German drama
I've come to the conclusion that the reason I'm hardstuck on roller now is cuz up until 600 elo ish it was a stick control issue I was fixing by playing aimlabs
now I'm back to being capped by my reading 🥀
tried focusing on it past 2 days and ive been shooting better but it mentally fries me a lot quicker
mental ridge
Bros balls deep in niche German drama
its not niche niche there are many videos with over a million views
mental ridge
I've come to the conclusion that the reason I'm hardstuck on roller now is cuz u...
so you still belive gamesense especially midfight gamesense isn't the problem?
there are probably many preds you could gap in 1vs1
empty thistle
so you still belive gamesense especially midfight gamesense isn't the problem?
I meant in terms of being stuck in r5
Gamesense probably hurts me the most yeah
empty thistle
there are probably many preds you could gap in 1vs1
I’m pretty sure at 600 elo you gap anyone that isn’t a top 100 pred or pro
mental ridge
Gamesense probably hurts me the most yeah
ah ok i missunderstood you then
empty thistle
I’ve checked like 10 preds now and they’re all 400-500 elo
Every pred I’ve checked above 600 elo was ex top 100
mental ridge
I’ve checked like 10 preds now and they’re all 400-500 elo
even im 400 score
and i barely played r5
empty thistle
even im 400 score
You’re mnk tho
You auto lose to rollers mostly
So mnk elo is kinda eh
empty thistle
and i barely played r5
You’ve played enough to get your correct rating
mental ridge
So mnk elo is kinda eh
well even if i disable ibmm i barely face rollers
empty thistle
well even if i disable ibmm i barely face rollers
Cuz other people haven’t lol
empty thistle
Elo doesn’t reallly translate across inputs
empty thistle
like it shouldn't be enabled by default
Roller stats would be so inflated and new mnks that don’t turn it off would hate it
If I’m in a mnk only lobby I can have like a 5kd
Usually I’m averaging between 1.5-2
but ye, I think stick control seperates the bad rollers
then reading and dodge seperate the good ones
I fixed the stick control issue
now my reading is just handicapping me
mental ridge
Roller stats would be so inflated and new mnks that don’t turn it off would hate...
Basically it would show that aimassist is even more broken right?
empty thistle
Basically it would show that aimassist is even more broken right?
we already knew that
mental ridge
yes but all.the r5 reloaded statistics dont show that
they only show mnk vs mnk and roller vs roller kd and accuracy
empty thistle
I guess
I'm skeptical on accuracy these days
im trying to dodge more and my acc is way down
but my kd is pretty similar
legit sitting at 34% acc recently
yet my kd is 1.8
wxltzy is 900 elo with 34% acc lol
Meanwhile cjracked farms acc by only long strafing
wild fulcrum
You auto lose to rollers mostly
i went from hardstuck d4 to d1 in a single day when i started playing bang and queing with 2 other mnk players
on na lobbies tho
idk why but na pred lobbies are so free
easier than eu diamond
mental ridge
@empty thistle i gonna gift my 12 year old cousin a mouse and a mousepad so he can play aimtrainer on his ps5
as in aimlabs
mental ridge
idk why but na pred lobbies are so free
depending at what time it is during the day the lobby demographics are different also many people feel like there are less cheaters on na due to streamers
final forge
I’m pretty sure at 600 elo you gap anyone that isn’t a top 100 pred or pro
The list is: pubs player > r5 player > ranked player > pro player
mental ridge
The list is: pubs player > r5 player > ranked player > pro player
where are wildcard players
and what about firingrange nerds?
static yacht
The list is: pubs player > r5 player > ranked player > pro player
9-5 dad with 5 kids > everyone else
empty thistle
my teammate krabers a guy box looting, a differnet guy kills himself to ring and well last guy dies 1v2
empty thistle
The list is: pubs player > r5 player > ranked player > pro player
u forgot about the 40 year dad with "assistance"
empty thistle
<@199182952524021761> i gonna gift my 12 year old cousin a mouse and a mousepad ...
ur cursing him
theres so much input lag for mnk on console
empty thistle
im unsure console aimlabs even allows mnk tbh
mental ridge
im unsure console aimlabs even allows mnk tbh
it does
lost fulcrum
@empty thistle how do u check r5 elo?
empty thistle
<@199182952524021761> how do u check r5 elo?
Search your name on leaderboard
true ravine
Search your name on leaderboard
how the score works in r5 elo? do i need to win lobbies to increase more?
shit is going up slowly
empty thistle
kill ppl u gain elo
die u lose elo
takes about 3-4 hours of playtime to get ur correct elo if ur new ig
true ravine
takes about 3-4 hours of playtime to get ur correct elo if ur new ig
makes sense
i played 1 hour
in 3 days
lol
haughty bay
Reddit
pastel fractal
yo guys, im trying to find a routine for controller for apex legends on Aimlabs, anyone knows where i can find this ?
rose wraith
yo guys, im trying to find a routine for controller for apex legends on Aimlabs,...
You don’t really need one
Play Apex and grind Poké ball scenarios in aim labs
pastel fractal
Play Apex and grind Poké ball scenarios in aim labs
where can i find thoses exactly ?
i type pokéball in search bar ?
static yacht
yo guys, im trying to find a routine for controller for apex legends on Aimlabs,...
Every day before first meal
Push-Ups — 15 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Burpees — 15 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Plank — 1 minute
Rest — 20 seconds
Jump Lunges — 20 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Dolphin Push-Ups — 15 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Frog Squats — 20 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Tricep Dips — 15 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Wall Sit — 1 minute
Finish
empty thistle
Every day before first meal
Push-Ups — 15 reps
Rest — 20 seconds
Burpees — 15 ...
Just send him the one punch man routine
static yacht
Too hard for non trained person unironically
static yacht
Just send him the one punch man routine
My 14 yo ass genuinely got hyped up by that and I was slammed against reality when I couldn't even do 10 push-ups throughout a long period of time in one day
Has someone done a study on how physical training affects your gaming skills?
I remember briefly in osu!, which is basically pure mechanics no gamesense no nothing else game, WhiteCat who dominated in 2019 told everyone that secret is to have 8 hours of sleep, eat healthy and exercise on top of you playing for a few hours per day
half salmon
anyone having this issue
i thought it was just me 😭
if u have a fix to this lmk
so far it happens to me when
i kill a 3 people in a team
when i die
final forge
if u have a fix to this lmk
play on steam, thats a bug exclusive to the ea app version
tight totem
Has someone done a study on how physical training affects your gaming skills?
theres a relatively wellknown guy on twitter that does research papers on this kind of stuff
half salmon
play on steam, thats a bug exclusive to the ea app version
maneeee
gotta spend a whole day reinstalling on chud internet
static yacht
theres a relatively wellknown guy on twitter that does research papers on this k...
name?
tight totem
ive been trying to look for it but im having some difficultyh
i think one of the most popular posts was about playing with closed windows affecting your tracking skill or smth, though keep in mind i havent really researched too deeply on how legit the post waas but maybe someone else here knows of the post as well
quaint karma
i think one of the most popular posts was about playing with closed windows affe...
well its an established fact that worse air quality decreases cognitive function
and ik who you mean on twitter
cant remember the accounts name but it keeps popping up
tight totem
yea
quaint karma
i think some of the stuff it claims is a bit overstated tho
static yacht
i think one of the most popular posts was about playing with closed windows affe...
I can imagine this one being overstated
quaint karma
I remember briefly in osu!, which is basically pure mechanics no gamesense no no...
exercise is good for your brain health
so is sleep
static yacht
Or within area of error
tight totem
naah i feel like good oxygens pretty solid
quaint karma
that being said i dont think i played any better when i was working a physically demanding job
but that may just be from being fatigued every night
static yacht
I would genuinely take like 10 people of out this chat who's interested on the subject to test different stuff
But I imagine it being not accurate at all as you cannot control all of them and just let them do the said thing
static yacht
that being said i dont think i played any better when i was working a physically...
I work on heavily physically demanding job for about 8-10 hours daily
I cannot play on those days
tight totem
i mean 7-9hrs of sleep is pretty guaranteed by multiple scientific studies and im sure that regular exercise which improves bodily functions WONT harm your reaction times and cognitive functions
lol
static yacht
I cannot play on those days
But somehow I don't lose skill after 4-5 days of working without playing
tight totem
if you feel that your job harms you, it might just be that your energy levels are so low after the job
thats it
static yacht
I mean with me totaling 500 hours on apex there is nothing too much to lose but still
tight totem
I mean with me totaling 500 hours on apex there is nothing too much to lose but ...
d3 in 500 is pretty nice
static yacht
Some teamfighting concepts from totally different game I used to be pro at were transferable to apex at basic level
So I had the vision right from the start, hence why I genuinely fell in love with the game
Mechanics wise, ehh, different story
If Apex is dead I'll genuinely just quit online gaming
There's nothing else like that
quaint karma
I work on heavily physically demanding job for about 8-10 hours daily
i usually did but i slept like shit
so that may be part of it
empty thistle
Mechanics wise, ehh, different story
Just plug in the roller
Mechanics part solved
R5 really making me question my reading skills
Especially on roller since there is no a d keys
I feel like depth change reading is so important for your whole read to be accurate
And I suck at doing it quickly
keen scarab
If Apex is dead I'll genuinely just quit online gaming
literally
static yacht
Mechanics part solved
One of the reasons I decided to try swap
empty thistle
@quaint karma is there a shortcut to getting better reading
I was thinking each day I just pick one thing to focus on reading wise
Whether that’s depth perception, accel magnitude, mirror or anti mirror strafe etc
static yacht
Doesn't roller just give you a lil bit of free reading due to 0ms reaction time so you have more time to react with your actual brain?
And over time you can get better at it?
That's how I imagined it
empty thistle
I’d say roller skill gap is more reading intensive than mnk
Cuz on mnk you actually need reactivity
Initial reaction is handled by aim assist
So it’s just reading and stick control
static yacht
Initial reaction is handled by aim assist
Hence reading, no?
tight totem
i think he means that since you dont have to do reactivity, its all smooothness and recognizing the possiible patterns
rather than the pattern changes
empty thistle
i think he means that since you dont have to do reactivity, its all smooothness ...
Ye kinda
Smoothness is very easy on roller
And reactive is done by the aim assist
So it’s all control tracking style accel and depth reading