apex

[empty thistle]

@mental ridge another miyu switch enjoyer

Time to leave your gf

[mental ridge]

you got adhd? or why only 30 secs

[mental ridge]

brother my girlfriend will kill you for that suggestion

[analog trail]

idk, i just dont need to be moving my heavy ahh g502 for a min straight while playing the game

[oak veldt]

oh man thanks dude, adding these to my bald wraith playlist

[oak veldt]

nah ur crazy

g502

with that aim

[mental ridge]

i suggest using a different mouse

the g502 is great for everything but competetive fps

[analog trail]

It seems to be working for me. but I get what youre saying.

[empty thistle]

Okay, time for a polycule then

[analog trail]

been on it for my entire kb&m lifetime. 2 years

[mental ridge]

potentially you can aim for longer with a mouse half or a third the weight

[mental ridge]

now she wont just kill you but make you suffer for the rest of your life

[analog trail]

yeah you right. do you know nay mice with a good scroll wheel, and a few buttons. I use a couple side buttons for punch and weapon swap and whatnot.

[empty thistle]

Time to invest in a Normal mouse

[oak veldt]

im realizing rn that my mechanics are probably whats hol;ding me back, i miss the initial shot a lot

[mental ridge]

well i get that more than 2 side buttons are convenient but if youre handy and utilize your thumb you can make use of zxcvb for alot of important binds

[empty thistle]

You’re mnk, that shit better be top tier just to not lose to your average controller with a health disadvantage

[oak veldt]

yeah i basically have to be on my a game at all times

[mental ridge]

well people give razer shit for needing synapse but the newest viper v4 pro is usable with a websoftware and its light with a optical scrollwheel

if its like the viper v3 pro its not quiet as scrollable as the g502 but still fairly good compared to most other mice

[analog trail]

if anything being able to achieve decent aim on a g502 and 17cm should be inspirational

[empty thistle]

I may be on controller but I’m still #1 AA hater

[analog trail]

thank you for your info, i will look into it further.

[empty thistle]

Tbf I think it being so heavy might help with the 17cm

[analog trail]

i agree

[mental ridge]

@analog trail whats your miyu scores

[analog trail]

idk

[mental ridge]

whats your steam name

[empty thistle]

Playing on the raiden mid and 38g mouse was an adjustment

[analog trail]

i found it

nothing impressive

[empty thistle]

Bro mogs me on the cfsi

What number is yours

Swear I was pretty high on it when wolf made me try it

[mental ridge]

nah your fast strafes is quiet good

[analog trail]

cfsi, what does this mean

[analog trail]

yeah thats the only one im good at apparently

[empty thistle]

Close fast strafes invincible

[analog trail]

ah i see

[empty thistle]

Once I become a r5 roller god time to go back to mnk and get nova

[mental ridge]

fast strafes humanoid switch

[analog trail]

these two are the same?
Close fast strafes invincible
fast strafes humanoid switch

[mental ridge]

youre just like 200 above 6000 where i am at

[empty thistle]

What number on leaderboard is it

[mental ridge]

well not entirely but they could be considered to be a category of tracking scenarios

[empty thistle]

Ye so I was almost top 300

So his score is quite good

[analog trail]

is this the cfsi you spoke of?

[oak veldt]

cant believe im top 300 smth in kovaaks but i cant aim for shit in game

[empty thistle]

Ye

[analog trail]

play some mixtape

[analog trail]

i see

[empty thistle]

Play cfsi easy thin

You might get nova

[mental ridge]

well strafing is really important

if you arent gokd at strafing youre gonna get in the way of yourself

[analog trail]

play the thundah tracking benches

[empty thistle]

I probably had nova if I had played it more than a few days

Mnk is depressing cuz I could get Astra and I still wouldn’t come close to the aim of being on controller

[mental ridge]

brother but thats mostly because you treat ingame aim like a aimtrainer and ignore the fact that strafing is half the work for good aim

[analog trail]

i have 10,188 on it apparently

[analog trail]

movement reading 🤑

[oak veldt]

whats gold in strafing? like for what task

[empty thistle]

There isn’t an mnk with 40% accuracy

[oak veldt]

i always play wildcard as warm up

[empty thistle]

Watch me get 43% acc in r5 and learn strafe to become thanos

[mental ridge]

do 1vs1 or r5 1vs1

[analog trail]

i high key play mostly mixtape. br isnt too fun. maybe because my friends are ahh at the game tho idk

[empty thistle]

Damn

I’m like 12.5k

[oak veldt]

oh r5, i heard some peeps here say to not bother w it

[empty thistle]

Guess you’re just the miyu goat

[analog trail]

maybe its an old score idk

[oak veldt]

i see, im just trying to get diamond in ranked, its my 2nd season playing ranked

[mental ridge]

well but accuracy is relative. what matters is that your accuracy is higher than the enemies. and gokd strafes can drastically reduce the enemies accuracy

[empty thistle]

I’m just gonna learn how to strafe on roller and dookie everyone

[analog trail]

I usually play ranked with my friends, but they ahh and we still get diamond with relative ease. If i can do it, so can you. You got this!

[mental ridge]

well if you got thousands of hours in apex they might be right but for a easy development of strafing fundamentals its a good point to start

just watch some dokiww vod or so to understand what different strafing strategies exist

[empty thistle]

Land far away

Open Netflix

Collect evos to purple

Third party end game

[oak veldt]

i play w a duo who has decent aim so we have comms

but we are both stuck plat 2 rn

[oak veldt]

i have like 700

[analog trail]

ill play cfsi easy thin when i got time. im a busy bee this time of the school year. big athletic comps and whatnot

[empty thistle]

I’ll play with you until dia if you want if wolf lets me use his Smurf

[oak veldt]

[empty thistle]

Got nothing else to do until next season

[analog trail]

maybe a game sens thing. what servers you play on?

[oak veldt]

we just got off tho i think i gained like no rp tn

[oak veldt]

nae

[analog trail]

me too, we should play sometime

[oak veldt]

id be down

[empty thistle]

What’s your kovaaks aim like

I was vt jade and masters by like 500-600 hours

[analog trail]

mine is kinda poo imo(400hrs in aim trainers for refernce)

[oak veldt]

i dont benchmark so this is all i have to my name
i have like 550 hours

[oak veldt]

full master tracking tho

[analog trail]

I enjoy tracking

[empty thistle]

Surely there’s a bench you actually play

Like I don’t vt bench either but I play a bit of tsk and jpg

[oak veldt]

hold up i think i played some viscose before

pretty consistant all around i think

[analog trail]

much better overall than me lol

[oak veldt]

really?

[empty thistle]

Overall kinda useless for apex

[empty thistle]

Just one trick control tracking and reactive

[tawdry dagger]

How can I get that to put my scores in?

[empty thistle]

Get that shit to lavender and you’ll feel a big difference

[analog trail]

yeah, you saw my clicking and switching

[oak veldt]

sure i can do that

[analog trail]

evxl . app

[oak veldt]

ur switching is dia at least

yk ima play the thundah playlist

do i play s1 or 2

[empty thistle]

Your switching will be way higher than that with a tiny bit of practice cuz ur reactive is good

[analog trail]

heres my visc for refernce

[oak veldt]

ur tracking is fire

[analog trail]

i dont play it much, but its decent id say

[oak veldt]

it is

[tawdry dagger]

Ah ok is that what they use now to track scores instead of the doc

[analog trail]

yeah

[tawdry dagger]

Oh ok thx for the info did not know

[analog trail]

few more clips cuz why not

[oak veldt]

that first clip on octane was nice

also what should i aim for on thundah

like a good goal

[analog trail]

if s1, try sanke or tiger

if s2 try sentient or human

[oak veldt]

almost got sentient on thunda track 1st try

[analog trail]

beautiful stuff then

[oak veldt]

ill report back when i finish

[analog trail]

i might be sleeping

[tawdry dagger]

Hey sorry for the questions, how do I get to that specific one? If you don’t mind me asking

[analog trail]

when you say thatspecific one, what do you mean by one. like the benchmark?

at the top middle theres a bar you can type benchmark names into

[tawdry dagger]

Yeah the benchmark

[analog trail]

make sure you enter your steam id or prfile url a tthe very top, then uinde rthat oyu can search for specific benches

maybe i should train my typing instead of my aim smh

[tawdry dagger]

haha no i appreaciate the help

[mental ridge]

only if you boost me to master again

[tawdry dagger]

think i got it thx agian

[empty thistle]

how much points you need

[mental ridge]

1000

we can do it on Monday night

[empty thistle]

flip needs 1k aswell I think

can try getting you both to masters before season ends

[mental ridge]

id be down later today

[mental ridge]

maybe youre more confident to actually push people now that you got aimassist guiding your aim

[empty thistle]

I mean if you want guaranteed points we'll be playing like pussies

if you dont mind it not going well we can push everyone

if we play for early kp then zone we can probs get like 200-300 per hour

[mental ridge]

well what about something inbetween

take good opportunities with high confidence and momentum but avoid stupid calls

[empty thistle]

idm not my points xd

apping everything has gotten me results between 2krp in 3 hours and -500 in 3 hours

[mental ridge]

all that matters to me is that we avoid midrange engagements and either reposition or push with confidence

[empty thistle]

ur mnk why do u dislike midrange stuff lol

[mental ridge]

its slow and inefficient gameplay wise

[oak veldt]

@analog trail

not a terrible start

[analog trail]

way better than my first attempts at it

good work

[oak veldt]

thanks

these are tough

a very good challenge for me

im just reacting to the ball because i dont understand the scenarios yet

[analog trail]

yeah, they are probably pretty good for overall tracking.

[analog trail]

i only play once every few months to see if ive improved, so every time its like im re learning how they move too lol.

[oak veldt]

i swear tunnel track is literally just horizon tac

[oak veldt]

i think ill go weekly for now

[analog trail]

vert tracking is my worst

[oak veldt]

same here

arm not used to moving up and down

[analog trail]

wrist aimer moment

[oak veldt]

lmao

i think im just very used to playing games with little verticallity

like cod and val

siege

[analog trail]

i lowkey keep my elbow on my desk the whole time so my shoulder and arm tracking is a bit more unstable than most peoples

[oak veldt]

is it bad that my elbows are usually off my desk

[analog trail]

high sens probably doesn't help that either

[analog trail]

no, its probably better

[oak veldt]

oh i see

ill try out your playlist and hopefully i improve

[analog trail]

good luck. it wasnt my full playlist tho, i got a few

[oak veldt]

no worries ill just add what i like to my playlist

[analog trail]

🙏

[mental ridge]

@empty thistle catching up

[empty thistle]

You can chase my close needle thin after

[mental ridge]

oh hell nah

[pale scroll]

bro swapped off mnk when he wasn't even nova on it

further proof rollers have no skill 🗣️

[empty thistle]

If I had my pc still available I’d get nova on it this week

I hadn’t pushed it in ages

[pale scroll]

smh

astra or chump

[empty thistle]

Bro caught me

[mental ridge]

his audacity to switch to controller b4 averaging celestrial scores

[empty thistle]

it's over for y'all once I reach top 100

97% of mnks losing to a no AA roller is sad

[novel loom]

https://x.com/2nekosu/status/2048858354374820329?s=12

ᅟ (@2nekosu)

Aimerz+ Week #7 - Suavetrack 34,380 #1

also #1 on VT Suavetrack Novice, Intermediate, Advanced, and Celestial 😄

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This might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen all month

Nekosu is really out here flexing smoothness scores on kovaaks. She is setting her sensitivity to speed match the bot so all she has to do is push her thumb stick to full tilt. Completely taking away the purpose of the scenario

[empty thistle]

There is some skill to it but it’s extremely dumb for suave track

Like honestly his smooth your wrist extra thin wr on controller is hard af unless he’s giga sens cheesed it

nekosu sets top centering scores on controller on sensitivities where you barely move your stick

A lot harder than I thought it’d be

And it’s great practice for long range recoil

When you just go low sens and max your stick to the left / right it’s kinda dumb tho

I wish all the aim trainers just had roller leaderboards

[novel loom]

How hard can it possibly be when you have infinite range and natural smoothness by default on that input?

[empty thistle]

just try it

these are my roller and mnk accs

I havent done much on roller tbf

clearly a big advantage on 180

[novel loom]

What leaderboard is tha?

[empty thistle]

syw I sucked tho

tsk

[novel loom]

That*

Ah

What mousepad were you on before you switched over? @empty thistle

[empty thistle]

Scores were set on a raiden mid and glassworks Zane

[novel loom]

No way I just started using my Raiden mid yesterday for the first time

I have been on a hien for like 4-5 years

Initial thoughts, Raiden feels so fast compared to my hien. It feels a lot more “free”. My arm doesn’t feels so stuck to the mousepad like on my hien

[empty thistle]

I hated the raiden at first icl

It grew on me tho

About 50/50 between raiden and hien now tbh

I had a bad habit of using excessive tension for my flicks tho

How old was your hien

You could probably snipe my scores for fun

I think you’re like 1 tier better than me at centering unless you’ve improved more since

right below me lol

[novel loom]

The one I been using was only about a year old. I’ve had a few over the years.

I just wanted something faster, which the Raiden is definitely that. I think my smoothness scores might be cooked on the Raiden we will see today when I log in

[novel loom]

you can easily just snipe me back lol @empty thistle

[empty thistle]

Ye it’s defo a noticeable jump from a used hien

Still can’t tell which to main

[empty thistle]

Battle of the poverty snipes lmao

[mental ridge]

zane

[empty thistle]

diamond is the elo

[willow hill]

Tellin you

Preds out the lobby and them games get dominated

[novel loom]

coach frostys cadet 😭

frosty sold me cheats was gonna be my alts new name lol

[empty thistle]

fr

its every game lol

[empty thistle]

thats a good one too

I wonder if he'll get bar pr from it eventually lmao

"arent you that coach that was cheating and killed me on a new acc"

[willow hill]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[rose wraith]

Character growth

[willow hill]

Btw that raiden mousepad was :/

That shit sits on my bed lmao

[novel loom]

rlly? what do you use now

[willow hill]

Some $30 mousepad from Amazon

[novel loom]

but why does ur mousepad sit on your bed lmao

you sleep on it?

[willow hill]

Cause I don’t even care about it

That shit could be on the floor for all I care

[novel loom]

use that shii as a blanket

lmao

[willow hill]

I don’t plan on using it

[novel loom]

floor mat

type mousepad

[willow hill]

My biggest problem with it is that it didn’t feel like it had any traction

[novel loom]

yeah its artisans fastest pad iirc

[willow hill]

Like I was playing on a table

[novel loom]

yeah its closer to glass than cloth

[empty thistle]

Try the Zane then tell me that lol

If you can use glass it’s a more controlled alternative that’s quite nice

[willow hill]

I do get new skates today

Never replaced any of my skates before so I’m interested to see how it’ll feel

[rose wraith]

It’s so nice

My raiden is quite slow in the middle

It’s due for a cleaning

[willow hill]

I can see the appeal for it

But right now and my thought process could be wrong on this

I think that’s really good for people with solid control in their wrists/fingers

And that’s my weakest point right now

So idk if that’ll ever fit for me

[rose wraith]

Yes speed is useless without mouse control

And probably a claw or fingertip grip

[willow hill]

It sucks too because I was excited to have this cool mousepad that made it look like I was gliding my hands and shit

But it just didn’t click.. and comfort > everything

So gg to that lolol

[novel loom]

zane is like fastest glass yeah?

[empty thistle]

One of yeah

[lost fulcrum]

that’s so weird i just got one and think completely different

[willow hill]

Well guess what

You’re wrong

Nah I’m glad it works for you

Maybe I’ll give it more tries

[lost fulcrum]

but like you said my wrist and fingertip aim is probably my best area😭

[willow hill]

It’s already just sitting there so if I get bored I’ll use it

Yeah my wrist is weak lol

Shit hella shaky

[lost fulcrum]

yeah opposite for me my arm aim is trash

[lusty vault]

Coach Ben in apex

[willow hill]

Oh I forgot to mention today

If you’re on roller you’re soft

[mental ridge]

nah please dont generalize glass pads... my entity phantom and zane all make the raiden feel like a mud pad

[mental ridge]

@empty thistle you gonna let that stand?

[willow hill]

:/

It’s the truth twin

former MNK players who converted to rollers

Gave up and made that decision to swap

[empty thistle]

Idc

Aim assist is extremely broken

And if you disagree you’re just delusional

[wintry cypress]

Daily controller hate

I respect it

[empty thistle]

Why practice for 2000 hours on mnk to barely beat average controllers when I can put 100 hours of practice on roller and beat everyone except a few hundred people

[wintry cypress]

Well if youre not playing competitive i see no reason to switch to controller

Controller is like the least fun

Even if mnk is harder

[empty thistle]

I want to be able to to chall

I can’t ego chal on mnk

[wintry cypress]

I can 🥀

Just wont always work

[empty thistle]

If it won’t it’s a dumb play

[wintry cypress]

Yea

[empty thistle]

So I can’t ego chal

[wintry cypress]

But my aim is still good enough to the point where half of my playstyle is built around it

Like genuinely if my aim is bad ill perform like shit

[empty thistle]

The day I got wolf masters

I ego chalked kaydnw 4 times

I lost all 4 times

Twice by only a bullet but I lost

[bright slate]

you can if youre good

[empty thistle]

If you have cracked movement and aim I guess

Otherwise it’s dumb

There just isn’t mnks averaging 42%+ acc up close

[wintry cypress]

True

[willow hill]

Worzel

You the goat bro

Ima change my daily message

[wintry cypress]

I mean at high level ill probably still get fucked by a decent roller player, but i dont play at high level so idc

[willow hill]

If you’re controller and can’t admit it’s broken.. you’re missing cells

Ty worzel for admitting its OP

I appreciate you

I hope you one clip everyone

[wintry cypress]

Those people dont have a mitochondria fr

[willow hill]

And I hope you stumble across a $20

🤍

[empty thistle]

Thanks @willow hill 😂

[empty thistle]

That’s what I mean though, mnk is fine for stomping diamonds

But I wanna be able to kill top preds and pros in ranked

And controller gives me that edge if I got good at it

[wintry cypress]

Yeah valid

Highest ill ever reach is masters

[bright slate]

doesnt give you an edge

puts you on even ground

but its just

boring as shit

[empty thistle]

Edge over being a mnk I meant

I have 10k hours on mnk

[bright slate]

oh thats a 200-0

oh another

oh yet another

[empty thistle]

I have 100 on roller

[bright slate]

both eyes closed

[empty thistle]

It’s new to me

So it’s fun

[bright slate]

eviscerating lobbies

[willow hill]

Shits so trash hearing that lmao

My boy legit just makes the swap and can do more

Than shit he’s invested so much time into

[empty thistle]

Yep

Aim assist is insanely stupid

I’m one month in and I can do stuff I could never dream of on mnk

[bright slate]

...

[empty thistle]

Imagine if I put 6 months of practice

I like being able to ego chall

I spent all my time on kovaaks so one day I could

Turns out I can’t

So I changed input

If there was mnks matching the top rollers on r5 I’d stick to mnk

But the distributions don’t overlap

[wintry cypress]

Yeah

[bright slate]

all the mnks

on r5 are dogshit though

very few fringe cases

[wintry cypress]

If u can match top rollers on mnk ur legit built different

[empty thistle]

Aren’t Pablo and future only hitting like 37% acc

Meanwhile best rollers are 43-45

[empty thistle]

I’ve been masters on mnk over 10 times now

All that was left for me to do was go for pred or learn roller

[lusty vault]

We love roller

[empty thistle]

We could’ve done that on mnk 😭

[wintry cypress]

Fr lol

Just get a glass pad for free smoothness

[lusty vault]

I didn’t need to move my stick bro

I just r2 r1

[wintry cypress]

What 😭

[lusty vault]

Only reason that got clipped

[empty thistle]

RAA + train

[lusty vault]

That was 0 stick movement

[empty thistle]

I wish aim assist was 0.1

[wintry cypress]

I thought u actually had to strafe for AA

[empty thistle]

I think the train counted as strafing

Roller actually has a big skill gap

It’s just aim assist makes the bottom 1% of the curve better than 90% of mnks

[lusty vault]

I can’t play on roller

The stress while looting is too much cortisol for me

I’ll just be worse overall

To use mouse

[bright slate]

gramps cant push buttons

[willow hill]

Lmao

Let’s keep it a buck

If you’re not actively constantly on MNK

Let’s say took a break for a few days

You missing bullets on that train clip

Keep it 1000000%

You prob killing the dude but you not hitting it that cleanly

THATS the problem with the MNK shit

[empty thistle]

Nah the problem is the skill ceiling doesn’t even touch the upper 25% of roller

Well attainable ceiling

Of aim up close

[wintry cypress]

I feel like hollow actually got close to it tho ngl

[empty thistle]

If I just had to practice everyday I’d be on mnk still

[wintry cypress]

That mf has some crazy aim

[lusty vault]

Rip hollow

[empty thistle]

Roller swap also makes sense for me cuz my irls play warzone and I can play controller on that now

[bright slate]

https://x.com/hollowFPS/status/1977114038078210220

hollow (@hollowFPS)

the adventures of goyard toothbrush

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X · Oct 11, 2025, 8:48 PM

the goat

[wintry cypress]

Fr

What is he even doing lmao

Couldve easily kept streaming different games

And i still wouldve watched

[bright slate]

livinlife probably

[wintry cypress]

But instead hes just throwing away his career for nothing 🥀

[bright slate]

"nothing"

[wintry cypress]

Ah yes even stronger aa 😭

[wintry cypress]

Well yeah

He couldve easily kept streaming

[bright slate]

his arm goes numb from playing bro

[wintry cypress]

And i doubt a 9-5 life would be much more fun

[wintry cypress]

Yeah thats why i said he couldve streamed diff games

[willow hill]

Congrats to that guy

That’s awesome fr

[lusty vault]

A real career probably

[wintry cypress]

Oh hell naw

[lusty vault]

A

Job

[bright slate]

https://tenor.com/view/running-ahh-aa-spongebob-meme-gif-19928154

[wintry cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231

[empty thistle]

Sounds like he should’ve swapped to roller 🥀

[mental ridge]

@empty thistlewhy did you never played cfsi easy

[lusty vault]

He’s too good for us bro

[mental ridge]

cfsi easy is my comofrt scenario rn

[lusty vault]

Mine is controlsphere

[empty thistle]

I was told not to touch cfsi until clsi 18k

So I did then moved onto cfsi easy thin

[mental ridge]

just play cfsi easy for fun

[mental ridge]

ew

[lusty vault]

It’s just the best scenario

[empty thistle]

Clsi was my fav

And gps bots

Controlsphere ow is also based

I think I could’ve got fuschia if I didn’t get sick of it

[wintry cypress]

Centering 2 180 no strafes or smoothbot voltaic for me rn

[lusty vault]

Smoothbot has to be so sleeper

[wintry cypress]

Wdym

[devout tusk]

cata ic long strafe invincible and controlsphere for me

[compact fulcrum]

could it be?

[novel loom]

What’s ur name on r5

[novel loom]

New skirmishisher looks like so much fun

[mental ridge]

@main merlin STOP PLAYING P2020 thats awefull to watch

[bright slate]

nihilr5

[main merlin]

Its wildcard gotta spice it up or you get bored

[mental ridge]

i figured out how to improve my apex performance https://youtu.be/llbwKCZNqlo

[mental ridge]

i

i have constant packetloss in apex all of a sudden

its always 20-60

[half salmon]

if its the right packet loss it usually is never anything noticable for me idk

if its the LEFT on the other hand

enemies start telporting

[mental ridge]

the right one is still obnoxious at 60

20 is fine

60 is people teleport every few seconds

[half salmon]

me too wtf

[mental ridge]

apex is just bad

well i have 0 packetloss on na

[novel loom]

Do you have packet loss on eu servers?

I remember when I had Telekom I would have 20% pl only on Frankfurt server. It seems to have fixed itself though

[mental ridge]

from one day to another appruptly

after years of no packetloss

[novel loom]

Hmm could be an isp issue. I had this problem and it seemed to be a common issue amongst people with Telekom

[mental ridge]

im o2

[mental ridge]

you german?

[novel loom]

@mental ridge I live in germany for work but I'm from the US

I'm living near frankfurt

[mental ridge]

u gonna go to gamescom ?

[novel loom]

ive never been, I wasnt planning on it but I might

Do you go usually?

[mental ridge]

yes

[novel loom]

when is it?

[mental ridge]

https://tickets.gamescom.global/cgi-bin/fmkm_visit/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Tickets_private_visitor.html?oid=63485&lang=2&ticket=g_u_e_s_t#/articles

relevant days are thursday to sunday

tuesday and wednesday are for hardcore fans

[novel loom]

oh its not until august. I will try to go

[novel loom]

diamond this late in the season is actually so free

people play so passive at least in the few games ive played today

[empty thistle]

Ye it’s giga free

I 1v3d 3 teams in a row yesterday

All the players that deserve gold / plat have ratted their way in

[novel loom]

seems so im ranking up a smurf atm

teammates seem to be equally as bad as the enemies though

[empty thistle]

most fun diamond lobby

[mental ridge]

ggs and i have 60% packetloss on eu servers

[rustic shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-crying-black-guy-crying-black-guy-crying-edit-gif-2572952068325991665

[vagrant basalt]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DXzgb__RTCU

[sage merlin]

how important do yall feel like aim is in apex

[devout tusk]

pretty

[novel loom]

id say the most important aspect of the game

outside of comp

[empty thistle]

I feel like it won’t make you a good player but you can’t be a good one without it

[wintry cypress]

Hella important aside from rotating and positioning

Aim will always be important in fps games no matter what anyone tells you

In faster paced games at least

If youre playing arma anyone can 1 tap a still standing target

But the same doesnt go for counter strike for example

[violet crane]

crwszeg0

[half salmon]

id say most important but not by a huge margin for ranked grind

[sly lynx]

literally one of the most or you’re considered shit at the game

[sage merlin]

kk I was wondering if I was overindexing aim training vs playing the game but I think just pushing through and getting some godlike micros might be worth it too

also another question what’s y’all’s ads Cm/360 I’m new to pc kinda so i’ve only played rivals and the finals and now apex on it normally im like 35-40cm but in apex the ads sensitivity im in the mid high 20s depending on the magnitude of the scope is that advisable

[mental ridge]

depends on how good you want to be at the game. the better you want to be the less aim centric the game gets, because other things start to matter too. yet u still need gokd aim

[pale scroll]

what rank are you wolf

[mental ridge]

i just leave all my ads multipliers at one and play either 0.6 0.7 0.8 or 0.9 at 1600

[mental ridge]

masters but if i had better gamesense i wouldnt need to be as mechanically skilled

and if i want to get pred its mostly my gamesense holding me back

[pale scroll]

how do I tell between a roller and a titan

[mental ridge]

if the controller players looks like he has 0ms reaction time hes titan

[pale scroll]

he was indeed titan then

w apex

[mental ridge]

titans tend to make people look like gen Burton

[main merlin]

is alb hard switching?

[elder kayak]

i wonder what type of link you

[main merlin]

wtf are RC filters?

[novel loom]

It helps smooth out the input and reduce unintentional jitters of the analog stick

[novel loom]

That’s gross

[empty thistle]

The whole rc filter thing is such a mess

Technically they’re banned but the new sticks can’t even function without one

So I guess just the customisation will be removed

Respawn should just fix their aa that jitter maxes out aim assist

[empty thistle]

New accuracy pr after a month on roller

Very fair and balanced input

[novel loom]

Banned in only algs i believe

[novel loom]

44% 😅

https://x.com/hypermystx/status/2049880758089609604?s=12

HYPERMYST (@HYPERMYSTx)

New Deathbox Respawn In-game ‼

▶ Play video

X · Apr 30, 2026, 3:57 PM

[empty thistle]

Either the mnk carryover is insane or controller is extremely unpushed as an input

I feel like roller is like 2020 mnk when 18k clsi was a top 20 score

[novel loom]

what roller do you have?

im thinking i might mess around and buy one of those new fancys ones just to give it a go

straight mogging my pleb mnk aim

Top 1% mnk accuracy yet doesn’t even touch the median of controller accuracy

[empty thistle]

I’ve been using the gamesir 8k lately

[novel loom]

That’s the one I was looking at getting

[empty thistle]

Used to have a duel sense edge but that shit was too big for my hands and the sticks are awful

[novel loom]

I haven’t played roller since s2

[empty thistle]

I’d say it’s a great roller

Way better than my edge atleast

[empty thistle]

I think you’re far above top 1% too 😂

[novel loom]

Tbh I don’t know what a good roller means I’ve only ever used a default Xbox one controller on apex haha

[empty thistle]

Better rollers essentially have higher dpi for the sticks

So you can be more precise

And there’s less input delay

The input delay on normal ones is huge and you can’t be precise cuz the resolution of the sticks is ass

But ye unless AA is like 0.1 roller will never be balanced

[novel loom]

Do you feel like your gameplay in game is better now on roller than it was on mnk?

[empty thistle]

Only as of like the past week or two

I think the benefit is only apparent once your aim is good enough to reasonably take ego chals in game

Otherwise you’re still playing like a mnk just with worse ability to reposition / take angles

I was way better at smurfing but in pred lobbies the difference wasn’t noticeable cuz of the trade offs

Also working on my static helped a ton

The better I get at static the easier I can play fights in game

Just looking at them I think the top rollers all have like plat-dia ts / static

[novel loom]

I see. One of my controller friends I used to 1v1 would always mentioned how if he didn’t 1 mag me he would lose because me being on mnk, it’s way easier for me to reacquire the target with the second gun. So I would assume static training would help with that for roller players

[empty thistle]

Ye if mnk changes angles a ton it will shit on most bad rollers

Yet the really good rollers are on par with a decent mnk flick wise

Cuz aim assist won’t save you if you have shit flicks

[novel loom]

https://x.com/claneszn/status/2050246855712207101?s=12

Clane (@ClaneSZN)

After a full day of trying it on r5, if its not cheating, and genuinely something thats already on controllers that you can now just adjust, it does not matter, it literally feels like I can just never break the AA bubble with it on as long as im somewhat tracking

X · May 1, 2026, 4:11 PM

If I understand it correctly, by adjusting the RC filter to negative values it increases jitter/noise of the analog stick thus keep aim assist active. And as pro player clane stated, he just has to track a little bit to always have the target within the AA bubble

[final forge]

I feel like thats bs, to me playing with a low rc filter value feels snappier and closer to mnk.
It's like raw mouse input and mouse smoothing.

Aim assist is not stronger but you have way more responsive inputs so it feels better

[final forge]

Have you tried it yet?

[novel loom]

https://x.com/mariusheier/status/2050482656358314456?s=12

mariusheier (@mariusheier)

RC filters and jitter, a demo.
https://t.co/GPc9WB2BV1

▶ Play video

X · May 2, 2026, 7:48 AM

Video demo of RC filters

[empty thistle]

Ye rc filter gives me better scores in aimlabs / kovaaks without aim assist

It primarily increases responsiveness by removing aim smoothing

Full reduction of aim smoothing created jitter

And gamesirs max setting amplifies jitter

But honestly I think that makes my aim worse

Cuz the cost to smoothness is too high

Jitter can create aim assist when there’s no human input

But it also fucks your aim when doing micros half the time

Rc filter wasn’t intended to create jitter just a side affect on the firebird

It was originally made for fighting games to increase responsiveness

I think 99% of people don’t understand it and are just talking shit

Apparently firebird reached out to algs so help sort it out

https://x.com/voidgamingjp/status/2050441930824401110?s=46&t=ryWMv4Kp5EIzIiFdlZsxoA

Void Gaming (@VoidGamingJP)

【ALGSのコントローラー仕様に関する弊社の対応について】

本日発表されたALGSのルール改定に関し、弊社の現状および今後の対応についてお知らせいたします。

■ 現状の対応について

X · May 2, 2026, 5:07 AM

The whole thing is a mess of understanding cuz algs bans stick filtering

But rc filter is the removal of stick filtering

So what they mean by banning stick filtering is forcing aim smoothing filtering on everyone

[novel loom]

https://x.com/mygamesir/status/2050538033037136244?s=12

GameSir (@mygamesir)

🚨Update regarding G7 Pro 8K PC Tournament Eligibility🚨

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According to the latest ALGS regulations, for players using

X · May 2, 2026, 11:28 AM

[empty thistle]

It’s just some versions have gone in the opposite direction and also amplified jitter

But I’m doubtful the jitter is even helpful it’s the responsiveness that is the buff

[novel loom]

Gamesir just pushed out an update on their firmware to remove stick filtering

[empty thistle]

My best raw smoothness scores are with rc -8

[final forge]

So can stickdrift on no deadzone, I see that argument everywhere but its honestly kind of pointless

[empty thistle]

Ye I just think everyone’s panicking that it’s like Cronus zen jitter mods

So it gets bad pr

Ideal rc filter is as much as possible before it gets jitter imo

The jitter is a bad side affect not cheats

Just get Marius board and you can have same affect without rc filter

Cuz I think his sticks don’t filter and don’t have noise

The huge buff everyone’s experiencing I think is that aim smoothing cucks your micros by filtering them out

[final forge]

Yeah, i saw some firebird clips where the entire screen shakes but the gamesir does not do that

[final forge]

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking as well. When I read about the ban I swapped back to 0 filtering and it instantly felt wrong. Closest thing is when you launch a game that has forced mouse smoothing and it feels super weired but you can't really tell why.

The other way was almost the same whe i first enabled stick filtering I could barely tell the diffrence, it felt snappy but that was it. Now going back feels like a slap in the face

[empty thistle]

I'm probably gonna keep using it until a consensus is more firmly established

I prefer it in aimlabs so I really don;t think its some extra aim asssist bs

[final forge]

As long as you are not playing in an official tournament under the algs regulations it's fine

[empty thistle]

caffine was banned in the olympus for years, organisers dont always get bans right

[final forge]

The ban defenitely feels like they jumped the gun. I have 5 Gamesir controllers and they all have different amounts of stick jitter per default some even have none at all (probably due to agressive rc filtering). So what if I just buy a low quality controller with massive stick jitter

[empty thistle]

easier to just ban it eary then reassess once they understand it better tbf

I'd hope it gets unbanned in a month or two when it gets better understood

cuz their current rules even bans the duelsense edge technically

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2758987937?t=02h17m04s zhidan was streaming when I wiped his squad apparently lol

[final forge]

It has been a thing for a long time though, rumors have it that jp players used it at champs already

[final forge]

"Controller software features that allow users to adjust or manipulate stick input behavior"
All I read is as long as it is not user adjustable its fine, hopefully gamesir just realeases a software with both sticks -10 without being adjustable. That should be legal by the rule

The same thing was said about controller overclocking and some weeks later they partnered with battlebeaver and allowed their "official" overclocking tool.

[empty thistle]

ye its just a pr mess

battlebeaver were so quick to call it cheats cuz they didnt have one lol

[rose wraith]

That’s what I told ace

What if a controller just has less smoothing baked in and it’s only sold one way with no firmware

👍

[empty thistle]

that includes changing the responsve curve etc tho which sucks

even changing deadzone outside of apex lol

[rose wraith]

Respawn might as well remove 0 dead zone from the game if they’re going to get mad at the filter stuff

I don’t blame a single roller for not wanting to play in jello

Unlucky side effect their aim assist configuration is designed to engage when small adjustments occur constantly

[empty thistle]

road to top 100 with jitter on lol

[rose wraith]

The filter on reminds me of how TVs will add effects to your show but it makes your game laggy

Less filter just sounds like turning off triple buffering or enabling game mode

Where you get more screen tearing but it’s more responsive

[final forge]

That funny part about tv's is that there is basically no hardware that won't alter the image. All the reference grade tv's are crazy expensive to basically achieve raw playback.

[rose wraith]

Ya I think the fast panic response from respawn is not good tbh

This is a serious way forward for roller players who want to actually aim with the stick

[final forge]

Aim assist is on as long as either the left or the right stick has some sort of input, I don't think the small adjustments change anything

[rose wraith]

And instantly shitting on it will make the long term drama messy

[rose wraith]

That’s the point, the small jitter is another way to have it always on without zero dead zone

But also

More responsive inputs = 0 ms response aim assist is even stronger

Since arguably it’s there to compensate for the stick being so shit

[final forge]

But when aiming you always have a stick input anyway so it's not relevant

[rose wraith]

If .3 AA is there so you can play through the laggy input of roller what happens when the roller is as responsive as the mouse?

In a way it’s probably very similar to ximming

AA is tuned around roller being full of high input latency from the filter and low polling rate of popular OEM controllers

Don’t get me wrong their kneejerk response is dumb

[final forge]

Thats also not as strong as people think since you are mapping directly onto the rollers smooth input. It's basically low hz crazy mouse smoothing

[rose wraith]

And probably harmful for pushing controller skill forward

Either way

Respawn should have just put out a temporary statement and temporary restriction

[empty thistle]

id rather have rc and nerf aa

[rose wraith]

While the situation develops

[final forge]

Imo rotational aimassist is outdated with the new responsive hardware.
Reminds me of the cod debate when people though aim assist got too strong but in the end the strenght never changed but the input delay just got better

[rose wraith]

AA was needed in the era of laggy tv

And 60hz lock screens

But now controllers are responsive like modern mice

That’s why I think respawn is handling this bad

Lowering the filter = turning on game mode on your tv

Now

Magnifying the jitter with negative filter?

Sure ok

[empty thistle]

I think theoretically gm tracking is possible on the new controllers

[rose wraith]

That can be considered cheating sure

[empty thistle]

And at that point aim assist is super dumb

[rose wraith]

But just no filter should be fine

[empty thistle]

I’m around low jade after a month

Imagine 2 years of training daily

[final forge]

I tried 0 rotational aim assist, so basically only aim slow vs a friend in r5 and that was still totally fine. Maybe even still better than mnk in some ways

[rose wraith]

That’s what I think the direction should be

But it’s an impossible decision

Respawn’s casual base is kids and dads playing on Xbox or ps5

On OEM controllers

It just sucks that default controllers are so terrible that you can’t make them feel fun without making a real controller heinously OP

Reminds me of the first time I saw notches on a GCC for smash melee

[empty thistle]

Controller is very good at tracking it just is worse at flicks hence reactive being harder

[rose wraith]

Consistent execution of something that was controller lottery before

[empty thistle]

But I don’t think mouse has that much of an advantage with no aa on modern rollers

Did you see my duel track vod @rose wraith

[rose wraith]

No

Sounds like it’s just a vod of a decent run on a controller

I don’t see the need to watch it low key

I believe you when you say you can score diamond or jade on roller

Especially if it’s actually responsive like a mouse with filtering off

[empty thistle]

People misunderstand the rc so hard

People saying the jitter buffs close range

But it’s just reactivity is easier with more responsiveness

There’s no recoil to jitter out

And your ass better not be not moving either stick when someone’s 2m in your face

[rose wraith]

That was my impression too

Just less lag

More responsive tracking

What this really says is that filtering just sucks

I wonder how much latency it adds?

[final forge]

the jitter also does nothing to recoil, i tested it and there was no measurable diffrence between -10 and default settings

[rose wraith]

Idk why people say this anyway

Recoil smoothing only smooths vertical

You still have the weapon’s horizontal recoil

Jitter aim just flattens the pattern

It still needs to be compensated for

[final forge]

if done properly pretty much all recoil gets removed
but the comparison is so bad, a jitter macro only works because it's only active when shooting, if it would be always active you could not aim for shit especially when not ads'ing or just looting

[rose wraith]

Ya if you jitter up and down + follow X axis recoil

It’s def something that works

Just a hassle without the macro

More importantly, overly cumbersome when all the other game systems + tracking a real player get involved

It’s marginally useful for groupings

[tight totem]

i mean u dont have to jitter when tracking bcs u get zero recoil while tracking anyways

[polar iris]

anyone wanna play apex?

i am gold 4

and i like playing alter

[empty thistle]

new control tracking pr

avg mnk is so bad lol

[polar iris]

what does that mean

[final forge]

probably depends on the controller, could be the reason why most controllers have such high stick input delay when compared to their respective button delay

[rose wraith]

Decades of ‘stick control isn’t good’ unmasked by truth that everyone is just playing in an extra 30-70ms of grease

Makes you wonder how small the gap between inputs actually is for most tasks

And whether AA might only need to be like .1 or even less

But then you’ve forced casuals to spend 70 bucks on new hardware just to keep playin the same game

They’ll quit

Loss of income

I would be a coward in my response too if I were respawn

[willow hill]

yo wayyyy too much yap

without me saying the key words

if you're on roller you're soft

continue my boys hope yall have a good day

[keen scarab]

aimlabs specifically too

[final forge]

It's too late for that now. Hardware evolution and eventually everyone has it. Imagine fps games would have banned 144hz or 240hz monitors when they came out due to the massive advantage gained

[empty thistle]

ye

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13278346854942806143/1E7F1666F4A9C35A38EAB4A64E7D5543793C8D89/ controller master race

[empty thistle]

holy the vod looks so bad compared to mnk lol

but my adjustments hard carry my reactive on mnk

[novel loom]

what percentile does that put you in?

[empty thistle]

99th

Top 1%

[novel loom]

and those are mixed leaderboards? @empty thistle \

[empty thistle]

Ye

Mostly mnk

Afaik that would be the max rank for controller leaderboards

Cuz controller elite is pc intermediate

[novel loom]

thats wild haha and thats raw aim no aim assist?

[empty thistle]

Ye no aim assist

[empty thistle]

Aim assist is fact very needed and balanced

[shrewd pollen]

we have to play minecraft atp

[novel loom]

@empty thistle you just die to a kraber in game?

[empty thistle]

Na

[pale scroll]

what rank is this in aimlabs?

My friend is high diamond on those

but console so doesn't have kovaaks, and hasn't played voltaic benches

wonder what diamond aimlabs is for voltaic

[mental ridge]

i could easily reach diamond aimlabs on pc while beeing plat in voltaic s5. idk how the ranking is for console tho

[empty thistle]

For console is would be zenith

[pale scroll]

you're zenith on them? have u played the console versions?

[empty thistle]

For pc its above max energy dismond

Console elite is pc intermediate

[empty thistle]

It’s not same I could hit diamond smooth or before diamond laser track

[pale scroll]

that's better than my score on it rn...

feeling inferior fr gotta push that higher now

[novel loom]

oh no theres another pew pew then

[rose wraith]

What does this mean

[willow hill]

Will to live as you climb

[final forge]

It's the stick jitter so the ps5 edge controller already has more jitter than the firebird with rc filter -300

[pale scroll]

took me a few tries to beat it 😭

as a gm ground player...

is my strafe just aah?

[rose wraith]

So that means people will just…use the controller that enables cheater AA out of the box without firmware

LOL

respawn L

[pale scroll]

had to lock in

[final forge]

I mean kind of, I'd say this just proves the point that the jitter is not affecting performance but rather the responsiveness is. Otherwise everyone would be using the ps5 edge...

[pale scroll]

I'm surprised controllers weren't already responsive

What latency did they use to have and what are they at now?

[final forge]

default ps4 ps5 like 5-10ms

[pale scroll]

lowk a lot

wonder why they have so much

[final forge]

yeah the g7 pro 8k has 0.5

[pale scroll]

do controllers use 2.4ghz or bluetooth?

[empty thistle]

And I still get aim assist 😂😂

[pale scroll]

do they have dongles?

[final forge]

both but the fastest is always cable

[pale scroll]

my strafe was in fact trash

[final forge]

idk why they have such bad 2,4ghz connections

[pale scroll]

cable benefit is imperceptible

[empty thistle]

What’s your Pat strafe

[pale scroll]

gm

but my mirror's always been worse than my anti

[empty thistle]

And you couldn’t one shot my score? 😭

[pale scroll]

yes...

[empty thistle]

Just form what I’ve heared talking to other ppl that train

Pc high diamond is around console zenith

[empty thistle]

What you gonna do once I push it for another month 😭

[pale scroll]

I'm pushing it rn

so

im prepping for it

what is aimlabs zenith in voltaic?

I'm assuming around nova?

[empty thistle]

No clue

I heard masters is Jade

My goal is to go for top 100 on all the intermediate scenarios then go for advanced

[final forge]

on controller it's not. Cable is always way better than 2,4ghz. Like 4ms vs .5ms

[pale scroll]

crazy

[empty thistle]

So what I’m hearing is I just need like 3500 and I gap majority of mnks before the aa even kicks in

[pale scroll]

yep

[empty thistle]

crazyyy

How are you even supposed to compete as mnk

When aa makes the average player better than 99%

And good rollers can legit be like top 0.5% without the assistance

[pale scroll]

idk bro

[empty thistle]

Like yes bro

Just become a top 1% mnk

To go even with roller

Without the aim assist

😂😂😂

The questions remains

Is tracking actually easier on roller than mnk

Or are my mnk fundamentals just giga carrying

Cuz top 1% raw input scores with a month on the input

Pretty crazy

All depends how much being a top 500 ground player on mnk and maybe similar for raw smoothness is in helping me learn the input

[pale scroll]

what was your ground rank?

how do you know you're t500 for ground in general, not for specific scenarios?

[empty thistle]

I’m generalising

For specific scenarios im top 200-500 on ones I grind

And I’m top 300 jade palace ground

[pale scroll]

low rank

im higher than that 💀

im just ass at strafe ig

locking in on strafe scenarios now

[empty thistle]

What’s your jade palace ground rank?

[pale scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397767605430779976/1400683067609321492/togif.gif

[empty thistle]

Your strafe is horrible wtf 😭

[pale scroll]

ikr 😭

[empty thistle]

How are you not Mogging my score

[pale scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-shrug-meme-kid-cute-gif-16715457227877920347

brain damage

[empty thistle]

Can’t say low rank just cuz you’re ranked 136th 😂

[pale scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185372937365233706/1399814385093972220/bestdodgena2.gif

[pale scroll]

yes I can

u can't stop me 💪

[empty thistle]

And your scores are barely better than the ones I played

By like 20 energy 🥲

[pale scroll]

higher is higher

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271511386807337092/1405608444903293209/attachment.gif

[empty thistle]

Either way

I think it’s fair to say about half of good ground players probably play jade palace

So just double that ranking and it’s a fair estimate

[pale scroll]

i lowk thought people were better at ground

I'm not even vrt pilled

[empty thistle]

Ground is all tech and reading

If you have good tech you can just score farm

[pale scroll]

reading? no

clearly not at all

since mine is so bad 😭

[empty thistle]

Okay mr nova cfsi

[pale scroll]

I just technique farm

[empty thistle]

“I can’t read or react yet I’m nova in fast strafes”

Pick one buddy

[pale scroll]

I can react

I can't read

[empty thistle]

Keep in mind there’s like 150k plays on clsi

And likes 1000 are 18k

There’s very few good ground players

[pale scroll]

huh

never considered that

but basically my take on reading/reacting is

[empty thistle]

Maybe your reading is trash

[pale scroll]

ground is easy to read

left and right

especially stuff like cfsi easy

[empty thistle]

Cuz if you had good reading your duel track would be way higher

[pale scroll]

yea

mechanically I'm good enough to get 60-70% accuracy on this

the bot isn't moving that evasively

[empty thistle]

Like barely beating my scores when on roller I’m not even jade technique

[pale scroll]

and idk how to improve it 😭

cause clearly playing the reading jpg scenarios did nothing for me

[empty thistle]

The less you can move the mouse the better

Let the bot walk through your crosshair

Mca-8 auto fast strafes

Go get a good score on that

[pale scroll]

kovaaks?

[empty thistle]

Ye

I have an 80% version made too if you wanna start easy

[bright slate]

play a good ground scene if you want more reading

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what's a good ground scen

I've played most

and none of them have helped

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vgs is chill

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ty yall. will try those

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How is your air

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decent

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💔

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I think you don’t know how to underaim maybe

No clue how else you can suck at it with your reactive and pat strafe

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Idk man

Shits a mystery then

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try something with longer stafes

and focus on the underaim part

perhaps

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true I don't underaim at all

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i tend to just aim center in game

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that's hard tho

if I could do that I'd be nova complete w/ astra scores

requires hella precise flicks and tracking to do that

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flicks arent presice

i just go back to center afterwards

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wdym?

underaiming is not edge tracking?

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On mnk I flick onto leading edge or middle (aim for inbetween) then let bot walk through my crosshair into an edge track

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i aim kinda like vexin

lots of finger use in my flicks, starting centering doesn't require that level of separation

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does this kinda make sense

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I do if cuz it makes the smooth edge track after easier

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my flicks just suck

so i tend to overflick

after i will micro back into centermass

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how is this underaiming though?

like I do that too sometimes, but that's clearly overflicking

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If you flick on trailing edge accidentally it’s much harder to get an instant smooth speed match

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never said that.

not underaiming.

how i aim when i track

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Watching top rollers can help you understand it I think

They let the aim assist and under aiming do most of the work

It’s how I understood the concept at first anyway

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it looks like they don't even aim 😭

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under aiming is just keeping to the inside edge from what i understand

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As far as I know

Mca-8 auto fast strafes is the best under aiming scenario

You can farm that scenario without even moving your mouse

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right

you gain acc% on the strafes into your crosshair

and you just speedmatch if it doesnt strafe

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idk if this is a good score but reading it wasn't hard tbh

how can I be good at this but suck at duel track 😭

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1000 runs of duel track for you

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bot 1 is the reading one

idk

i play on 75fps

shit panel

so its hard

it wobbles wide before making the switch

or just got on the lddh grind

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Wtf

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what's yalls oppinion on bot 2 in cfsi

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Isn't it only one bot

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do you know something we don't

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superbaim reactivestrafe

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I'm getting my teeth kicked in by mca-8 rn

but I'll take a look at that later

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I've learned I over-rely on pad friction for micros

I would stop completely after flicking on the faster bots (around the 8k+ score mark) and not continue the track

and wasn't able to control it well enough to not lose all momentum, but just slow down to speed match, so that's what I'll be focusing on for now ig

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something for u to work on ig

mca8 supposed to be one of the best apex scens

I think of it as just aa4 but ground

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im doing really good in wild card today

always 15+ kills and 3-3.5k dmg

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i got my 1st ever 4k!

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nice one

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i keep choking 20 bomb tho

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you'll get it dont even sweat it

my first 20b took me ages and that was back when there wasnt wildcard or anything like that

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my friend just choked 🙁

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these end of season diamond lobbies are funny

straight line simulator lol