yeah its a bit slow ima stick to 60
#apex
golden sphinx
sonic marlin
i did it on 56 the comp
domi is 45cm
14 is 50cm
sol is 80cm
bassel is on 40 or 50 i think
sonic marlin
youll place higher than me probs
golden sphinx
VAI 70 & 110
sonic marlin
whats your score
golden sphinx
yeah i finished the playlist and im still 12th
sonic marlin
yeah i finished the playlist and im still 12th
for now lol
until they members hop on
sonic marlin
yeah i finished the playlist and im still 12th
you pushed me down to 17th tho so fuck you
golden sphinx
loool mb mb
sonic marlin
loool mb mb
jizu was below me for a while and now bros 2nd
golden sphinx
some people goated
how long do the comps last?
i get a new chair and mouse tomorrw
im using a viper mini atm which has an ancient sensor and a bit of cable drag even with the mouse bungee
golden sphinx
ohh so i got plenty of time to grind
oh im blind it says right on the sheet
ends june 9th lol
stiff hedge
Great
mental ridge
some company needs to create mousepads and call them
cronus zen
xim apex
strikepack etc
stiff hedge
id get one of those
cedar wigeon
Need a special promotion tho "INSANE NEW MOUSEPAD ZERO RECOIL, BETTER AIM"
Build in aimbot to compete against them roller players
aim assist sorry.
golden sphinx
Great
seen these kinda things
like people saying they will use it because everyone else uses it
biggest cope
devout tusk
they sell them at walmart
sullen edge
how do i make my ads sens the same as my hipfire
hushed forge
"no bro wdym I already get builtin aimbot with the game I obviously need to have absolutely zero recoil on top of that"
bright slate
love it when they cope about roller being worse but dont want to switch
devout zealot
how do i make my ads sens the same as my hipfire
Scope in then scope out
sullen edge
yes that is how you ads
golden sphinx
I could count the amount of times I have won a fight because of tap strafing on one hand
devout zealot
yes that is how you ads
You’re accurate for a sec or two then u need to repeat
I mean your hipfire is accurate
sullen edge
thats not what i meannn
sullen edge
i asked how to make my ads sens be the same sens as when i hipfire
devout zealot
I can’t read
sullen edge
what are you talking about
devout zealot
i asked how to make my ads sens be the same sens as when i hipfire
Per optic then 1.2/1.3 for 1x
golden sphinx
But U will have to play around with the value until you get one that feels like your sens
devout zealot
And add .2
While you go through them
So
1.4/1.5 for 2x and 1.6/1.7 for 3x
It will feel similar
Idk if it’ll be literally the same
devout zealot
what are you talking about
Bro I’m dyslexic
Shit happens
devout zealot
i asked how to make my ads sens be the same sens as when i hipfire
U got it?
devout zealot
vague nexus
Just get a ruller and check what sens is 1:1
I assume you actually want it to be same cm/360
But if its the same cm, you still get a little zoom, which will make it feel faster than hipfire
wintry cypress
@golden sphinx it just got shipped 
golden sphinx
Ayy nice
inner linden
<@217010909212573697> it just got shipped <:speakingfire:1369330583691329616>
yooooooooooooo
golden sphinx
my new chair got delayed until tomorrow
but my new mouse still comes today so not too bad
mental ridge
how do i make my ads sens the same as my hipfire
ignore all the bots here not having any idea how to do it
use https://jscalc.io/embed/Q1gf45VCY4tmm2dq
if u need a tutorial i got you aswell
devout tusk
i asked how to make my ads sens be the same sens as when i hipfire
apex jscalc if u want to be exact, it depends on fov. 110 is loke 1.311637283 or something like that
mental ridge
apex jscalc if u want to be exact, it depends on fov. 110 is loke 1.311637283 or...
read above
rose wraith
kda lookin good consider the only thing I do is grind master and pred lobbies
i bet if I 3 stacked and just played pubs it would be 4 or 5
devout zealot
ignore all the bots here not having any idea how to do it
use https://jscalc.io/...
it's not that deep
wintry cypress
devout zealot
https://tenor.com/view/get-out-gif-16937087574286752264
wintry cypress
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960914817160450078/1082338230206218400/...
Damn and i just put on some perfume too 😔
polar iris
Perfume? 
wintry cypress
devout zealot
i bet if I 3 stacked and just played pubs it would be 4 or 5
why not 10 or 20?
i've seen people pull this off
and you're gm
but fr, nice kd + i feel like nobody really plays pubs these days
there's no point of choosing it over ranked
rose wraith
pubs is better if you just want to hang out
devout zealot
ig but hidden mmr will do it's job and as soon as you pop off
it'll put you in lobbies with sweats no?
polar iris
The pub "sweats" are still awful at the game
rose wraith
it'll put you in lobbies with sweats no?
everyone is a sweat
some people are sweat at a higher level
ppl should just enjoy the game
olive heath
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm masters on benches for reference I fucking suck at this game haha but i'm just getting into it
rare bone
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
movment need to be better
true ravine
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
Benchmark ranks will never translate into your game performance, but yes, if you choose the scenarios correctly to improve what youre lacking in game youll see it translating into the game.
rare bone
Benchmark ranks will never translate into your game performance, but yes, if you...
I am pretty sure movment is the way to go If u have a genius aim and suck in the game
or just play more the game
@narrow swift apex with wood movment moving like grandma sucks
true ravine
I am pretty sure movment is the way to go If u have a genius aim and suck in the...
its good to learn movement but as i said, having a high rank in benchmarks wont translate to your in game aim
rare bone
its good to learn movement but as i said, having a high rank in benchmarks wont ...
high rank in benchmarks translate to good mouse control
you just need to apply It into the game
by playing the game more
true ravine
it translates to good mouse control but theres situations in game that will not be the same as benchmarks or scenarios that people practice to improve on benches. if he lacks close range aim in game he should find close range groundtrack scenarios and it will help him to translate his good mouse control into the game.
Dodging/Strafe aiming will also help him
ofc playin more will have a huge impact but theres some things that can be improved faster if you isolate the practice
just like in gym
devout zealot
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
Learn aim smoothing, some basic movement (+ more advanced if you’re into it) and you’ll need to learn the game( how to take properly fights and play around cover)
devout tusk
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
before gm(s4) not a ton, past that though i was feeling every improvement. controlsphere and aa4 helped more than benches tho. also the game is just hard amd will take a lot of time on its own to get a feel for. You gotta "unlock" how much your aim trainers skills transfer to apex much more than other games imo
sonic marlin
im not even beginner on tsk i get masters
Yeah but like if you were pre advanced you don't need gamesense you just aim diff
bright slate
do that anyways
polar iris
im preadvanced and i play on controller 
olive heath
Appreciate yall input chat thanks
polar iris
np
boreal sorrel
high rank in benchmarks translate to good mouse control
not really past a point
anything beyond gm MAYBE nova is a waste of time
because it comes more about rngcheesing and learning bot patterns than actually having good mouse control
devout zealot
anything beyond gm MAYBE nova is a waste of time
outer sleet
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
I didn't play all that much aim trainers compared to a lot of people here but I'd say if you are masters on the benches you don't need to worry about your aim. It'll prolly get better as you get more familiar with the movement patterns in this game. Also game sense matters just as much so ye
mental ridge
For those who play apex would u say aim training translated for you well i'm mas...
Problem is u benchmarks wont teach you strafing
what u need to learn is how to use strafing to maximize damage output while simultaneously reduce damage input
aka strafe aiming / bias strafing / dodging
severe canyon
Na just strafe aim every fight and hope you have better reaction time
placid root
novel loom
i got called a cheater after this lol
devout tusk
my ears
devout zealot
where're you from?
stiff hedge
The sound of that mouse pad hurts my soul
placid root
where're you from?
Latvia.
placid root
The sound of that mouse pad hurts my soul
It's because of a bug. You can only hear it from Mobile discord, since my videos have multiple audio tracks and mobile Discord only plays my mic audio for some reason.
balmy cosmos
devout tusk
i will not play until ballistic is 6 ft under again
stiff hedge
It's because of a bug. You can only hear it from Mobile discord, since my videos...
weird
rose wraith
i will not play until ballistic is 6 ft under again
He will see a lot less play with this change even tho it’s a slap on the wrist
What they really need to do is remove the support perk from alter
devout tusk
yea but thats not as directly infuriating to play against
ballistic q most antifun mechanic in the game
storm mural
+ a ballistic nerf🥰
I'll carry two ult accels as Ballistic in honor of this early celebration
On that demonic grindset
rose wraith
ballistic q most antifun mechanic in the game
Ppl slept on it for months so idc
IMO it’s not that it’s unfun there’s just too many of them
Ppl would call gibby toxic too in metas where every team ran him
bright slate
its very unfun
rose wraith
Idk there’s counter play I’m vibing
The nerf is good but it’s a cool ability
The only thing that’s stupid is that mastiffs pop the overheat after two pumps
Should be at least 3
severe canyon
It’s very unfun to play against
Makes it so you can’t shoot your gun in an fps game
ocean flame
Idk there’s counter play I’m vibing
Theres not much counterplay to if a ballistic is played properly
(only taking 1v1s on q hit, sky q's, etc)
Luckily most ranked ppl dont care enough to full rely on it
ocean flame
I think so
ocean flame
Ppl would call gibby toxic too in metas where every team ran him
Terrible comparison that isnt true in the slightest
stiff hedge
320hp gibby was crazy
bright slate
ive heard people call gibby meta boring but toxic and unfun?
true ravine
ballistic is worse than horizon meta
ocean flame
Ye nobody has called Gibby metas anything similar to ballistic meta
rose wraith
Ballistic was unplayable trash for months
I’m glad that characters that only attack are good at attacking
It’s good for the game
true ravine
it needs to do 35 damage every q to work tho?
golden sphinx
hated the og rev octane meta the most
bright slate
sure
rose wraith
It’s like complaining abt assassins in league
stiff hedge
ballistic q was always a bad designed ability id say, it odesnt have abnnything to do if its good or no
bright slate
i dont enjoy removing player agency
assassins in league have be horrible for forever
true ravine
i mean, they nerfed seer to the ground for doing 10 damage on his Q
bright slate
very select few are actualyl "playable"
rose wraith
i dont enjoy removing player agency
Removing player agency is good actually in team games
The whole working together bit
Characters should be allowed to feel strong imo
bright slate
in coordinated play i could agree
stiff hedge
Characters should be allowed to feel strong imo
strong yes, unfun to play against no
bright slate
there is a fine line
rose wraith
Apex devs let characters and weapons be too strong to make seasons feel different for variety
It’s plainly expressed in their dev talks
It’s not like ballistic has no counter play
golden sphinx
strong yes, unfun to play against no
but the cure to this is not nerfing them its giving other characters buffs that make counter play possible imo
rose wraith
If anything, the massive duration on his ult is worse than his q
true ravine
Apex devs let characters and weapons be too strong to make seasons feel differen...
Nemesis being meta since launch 🤡
bright slate
like in league
rose wraith
Nemesis being meta since launch 🤡
It was way stronger on launch, it’s getting close to being in a good spot now
ocean flame
This is bad
bright slate
for years
rose wraith
The energy ammo nerf + nemesis dps nerf helped a lot
stiff hedge
but the cure to this is not nerfing them its giving other characters buffs that ...
i dont think they should nerf him, id say rework his q, i just dislike the ocnept
true ravine
still stronger than all ARs in the game
for like
5 seasons?
they just want to make the game dumber and dumber
rose wraith
Pathfinder is op, he takes height with q and it takes away the player agency of my strong position
rose wraith
Ballistic q should just stow his gun
It’s not cool for it to be a dueling weapon
It should have a niche as an ambush / gate keep / area denial tool
The fact he can swing with it is dumb
But q itself is fine
true ravine
Ballistic q is not fine
bright slate
idk how long the duration is
rose wraith
8s
bright slate
so long enough to wipe
rose wraith
They will give his overheat damage a slap on the wrist and life will go on
Enjoy things being busted
true ravine
He has 2 Qs without level 3 upgrades
rose wraith
Variety is good for live service games
bright slate
sure
true ravine
for 8 seconds
bright slate
but when its lobby admin unfun dogshit
?
i dont personally think goats was bad for overwatch other than its duration
stiff hedge
2 players out
4 you mean
bright slate
but it 9/10 in good lobbies was just the best possible choice
true ravine
4 you mean
it is 4 Qs without the level 3 upgrade?
stiff hedge
no idea i just know he can have 4
rose wraith
That’s why some seasons of apex I don’t play lol because they don’t make good choices on the balance
But balance itself being lopsided doesn’t bother me
If the patch sucks I just won’t play
It will change shortly after
Current patch is fun overall besides the getting run down infinitely by mobility creep
What’s ballistic q in comparison?
ocean flame
What’s ballistic q in comparison?
Quite a lot
stiff hedge
What’s ballistic q in comparison?
something i dont like
rose wraith
Ash leap needs to be gutted again it’s still too dumb
bright slate
idk anything that allows me to take my hands off while having the same outcome
stiff hedge
Ash leap needs to be gutted again it’s still too dumb
but its fun at least
bright slate
i dont enjoy at all
ocean flame
Ngl its inconceivable to me to complain about "mobility creep" on the same level as ballistic q
Very shocking
bright slate
power creep will happen to all hero based games
true ravine
Ash: has a dash.
Ballistic: 4 Qs that disable enemys and do damage. Ultimate to get any broken golden weapon. All allies with infinite ammo.
ocean flame
Yea
rose wraith
If you don’t think Ash dash isn’t top top top tier you’re smoking pack
bright slate
isnt balllistic ult inf ammo + ms
rose wraith
Her mobility has no cd and comes without strings
true ravine
isnt balllistic ult inf ammo + ms
forgot the move speed
true ravine
Her mobility has no cd and comes without strings
it literally has CD
bright slate
with no real downside
rose wraith
Ballistic ult is way dumber than his q
And his ult is only dumb because it lasts too long
If it lasted like 25s and couldn’t be extended with knocks it would be fine
true ravine
ye, Golden p20, Devo, Rampage with movespeed and infinite ammo is totally fine
stiff hedge
Ballistic ult is way dumber than his q
but you can shoot at least
bright slate
just run 7 devos
rose wraith
We are rly complaining about infinite ammo
ocean flame
Ben do you play ash in ranked?
rose wraith
I play a lot of
Ash, ballistic, wraith, alter, lifeline in ranked
They’re strong
I like embracing meta
It’s enjoyable
Imagine not enjoying playing games you put hundreds of hours into
Ballistic is so fun lmao idk what yall mean
true ravine
We are rly complaining about infinite ammo
Loot management shouldnt be a thing in the game?
bright slate
ive played overwatch for 5k hours
rose wraith
Loot management shouldnt be a thing in the game?
See rule 1 of games
true ravine
Give lifeline infinite Batteries
rose wraith
Rule 1: characters should feel strong because it’s fun
bright slate
more than half of that i would say were bad patches that made the game generally unfun
ocean flame
I mainly play ballistic in ranked with my 3stack and i enjoy it. That doesnt mean i dont understand the reality of the situation
bright slate
i still enjoy ow and lol
austere cedar
coach ben hi
bright slate
just because the patches are bad doesnt mean i dont
rose wraith
Preds will wash you no matter what legends you play
bright slate
most are random noobs
rose wraith
Swinging together and playing cover to turn small leads into big ones is the only thing that matters
bright slate
by not
rose wraith
whats the best way to practice movment in apex
Depends on what kind of movement
austere cedar
Depends on what kind of movement
i am really bad at movement
rose wraith
Ok well if you’re serious, then all you need to get good at is learning how to put away your gun, doing a slide dash, and then pulling out your gun during the slide dash to reposition
It is 90% of the movement that matters in apex
stiff hedge
Ballistic is so fun lmao idk what yall mean
i find the meta ok but i just hate ballistic q personally
austere cedar
It is 90% of the movement that matters in apex
alr
rose wraith
i find the meta ok but i just hate ballistic q personally
It’s fine to hate things specifically for no reason
I ain’t shittin on anyone’s desire to hate it just because
ocean flame
It’s fine to hate things specifically for no reason
Lmao
rose wraith
But the meta will always have something strong
ocean flame
Wow
ocean flame
I think all of us reading this have the same thought guys
true ravine
Ash, ballistic, wraith, alter, lifeline in ranked
ye, wraith and ballistic are in the same level
rose wraith
And Y thing will be op
ocean flame
Dont need to say anything 👍
rose wraith
Complain abt strong thing with no talking about actual counter play
Fun and unproductive at same time
stiff hedge
It’s fine to hate things specifically for no reason
its not for no reason
rose wraith
Impressive
true ravine
Complain abt strong thing with no talking about actual counter play
List 1 counterplay to ballistic
run?
stiff hedge
i hated it before it was strong, the concept of the ability is what bothers me
austere cedar
Ok well if you’re serious, then all you need to get good at is learning how to p...
wait i had a qestion is it ok if i dm you
rose wraith
You can break ballistic q with line of sight, and also have two teammates to help shoot. Ballistic q also has a start up time if it hits a surface before it activates so you can just sprint through it and kill hom
Can also run hero’s that create cover like rampart or Newcastle
If he lands one it’s a strong situation for him and his team
true ravine
So your counter play is: Ballistic throws his Q from far enough for you to see it and hide so it doesnt hit you
austere cedar
You can break ballistic q with line of sight, and also have two teammates to hel...
check ur dms real quick sir
rose wraith
So your counter play is: Ballistic throws his Q from far enough for you to see i...
That is literally fine counterplay
Most teams engage at a range where you have about 1.5 seconds after missle lock to get out of its way
If you’re out in the open (a bad position) without a way to generate cover then yeah he can strongly be rewarded for it
Like 10 other legends in the game
The move doing 50 damage is too much, and his purple perk should probably just give him 3 and not 4
Or perhaps you make a blue perk and a purple perk add +1
Lots of ways to tune it
true ravine
Okay, lets say that he missed his Q, what about the next 3 Qs that he still has to throw at you + His full team running with movespeed buff + devotion
rose wraith
It takes a few seconds to pull out the next Q
And another second for it to lock
And another second for it to stick to you
I think you’re overselling how fast he can shit em out homing
And if they aren’t locked they have a delay activation on contact
If you are trapped in a bad spot and he has line of sight then yeah it’s awful and you die
That can describe what happens when any team rolls up on you like that
true ravine
I think you’re overselling how fast he can shit em out homing
I think you cant hit your Qs and thinks its balanced
rose wraith
I’ve watched pros die in ditches or open crossings for years in ALGS
true ravine
You like to play it, thats alright
but selling it as "its okay to have it"
thats crazy
rose wraith
I just have a tolerance for characters having strong buttons
I think it’s good design
We can talk all day about tuning those numbers
rose wraith
He had the same overheat on his q since launch and nobody played him
They tune numbers up and he’s played
ocean flame
Was badly designed at launch and is badly designed now
rose wraith
If it hits someone
ocean flame
It also goes around cover
true ravine
time to aim train to hit ballistic Q guys
ocean flame
That whole paragraph you vomited out about counterplay
That was all a fever dream when in reality it goes up and down
Dunno if youre even aware of that tho
rose wraith
Ya it’s good when you lock and then look up
Definitely helps it drift over small cover
Cool little thing to be able to learn how to do
true ravine
able to learn?
rose wraith
Bigger cover not always tho
ocean flame
Works against almost all cover in the game
true ravine
👏
rose wraith
They wanted assault legends to be good at pushing
Assault legends b good at pushing rn
rose wraith
I just don’t mind the overheat mechanic
rose wraith
It’s just an extrapolation of other existing mechanics that work similarly
ocean flame
Ben might be the only person ive seen complain about ash
true ravine
the problem is being OP
stiff hedge
I just don’t mind the overheat mechanic
good for you
rose wraith
good for you
If ppl don’t like it that’s also fine but apex is full of different things that deny gameplay
Idk why can’t shoot is a holy altar not to be touched beyond feels bad momentarily
storm mural
Counterpoint: it's targeting a gun rather than legend, yet it works on any weapon you have or pick up. It's a poor design even within the boundary of what the game devs put in the game.
rose wraith
Crowd control been in games forever
stiff hedge
If ppl don’t like it that’s also fine but apex is full of different things that ...
yaeh but ballistic q is probably the most annoying
rose wraith
It’s certainly ever present in the meta
storm mural
So Ballistic Q overheats your weapon, except it overheats your legend.
rose wraith
20 of them on the map is a lot
storm mural
Because it works on any gun, not the one that was hit.
rose wraith
Low key you’re spitting
You should be able to swap to the other weapon
And break the overheat
stiff hedge
if it worked on only one weapon id say its a cool ability
rose wraith
That’s cool counter play I like it
true ravine
20 of them on the map is a lot
List 3 legends that does 40 damage by pressing Q.
ocean flame
Most of apex has been designed to punish mistakes while leaving room for skill expression still, like ash Q punishes large mispositioning yet leaving you space to move within the Q at the worst case
Ballistic punishes no mistake at all
rose wraith
Again the damage is temporary and just so he can be strong For Reasons
ocean flame
And leaves no room for skill expression
rose wraith
His q needs some tuning for sure
true ravine
Again the damage is temporary and just so he can be strong For Reasons
8 fking seconds
rose wraith
And indeed he’s getting two nerfs
storm mural
Overall, I don't think his Q should put you out of commission like, say, Bangalore's ult (slow lasts 8s IIRC), especially since he has stacks.
true ravine
Everything about ballistic is OP rn
rose wraith
Just look at a few months ago when every support legend had gold armor 2x heals on smalls AND support rez heals AND support bins AND no slow down on heals
Like no shit that’s overwhelmingly strong
That’s why I’m saying it’s ok to not like a meta and just not play
Ballistic is just overtuned
ocean flame
U really havent understood a single thing anyone here has said
storm mural
Each explosion deals 40 damage, and stun and slows enemies for 6 seconds. This ability cannot damage squadmates, but it will still cause a slowing effect.
Kinda crazy Bang's ult with a 4 min charge is just worse by the numbers. It's better as an AOE, but there's a lot of counterplay to the AOE (Ash port, for example), so autolock is kinda better overall IMO.
rose wraith
U really havent understood a single thing anyone here has said
What’s to misunderstand, they don’t like it because overheat takes away your gun for a few seconds
ocean flame
Reread the convo
rose wraith
The convo was about something else besides not liking how ballistic q was unfun to play against?
ocean flame
It was
storm mural
You can also just lose a gunfight because it changes up the DPS of whatever you're holding, like the one dmg nerf to P20s doesn't matter if Ballistic Q hits since it also deals damage. I think it should either overheat a weapon (maybe whatever the primary weapon is?) or deal damage. Both is kinda much imo, kinda like Seer Q on release (you can also choose the silence enemies when overheating for the OG Seer experience).
rose wraith
You can also just lose a gunfight because it changes up the DPS of whatever you'...
Agree for sure; they’ve usually been very conservative with attaching damage to tacticals
They must have really felt like ballistic was unplayable and he needed massive buffs to be playable
Not true
But that’s what the stats told them
Maybe now everyone appreciates ballistic better they can kill the extra power he has
No extended duration for knocks + 15 less damage on overheat is a good start
Probably needs more but good touches on what’s causing problems
storm mural
I wish the stats told them to change up Ash a bit, getting run down by her is kinda annoying the higher the rank
rose wraith
Agreed, my problem with ash is that she can Even run down characters designed to be mobile
Without having to spend a tactical
Her dash is balanced like a tactical but is just free extra stuff
She should not be able to catch pathfinders and revenants
That is also part of why ballistic is meta since his ult lasts forever and you can just ash run down ppl with full unarmed sprint speed
Her tactical needs to have its cooldown doubled or at least extended so she can’t keep up with Skirmishers
And why does she get one out of the respawn ship?
Privilege I say
storm mural
Apex players when a meta's around for longer than two weeks:
balmy cosmos
rose wraith
Apex players when a meta's around for longer than two weeks:
Too real, I wish they would hotfix these strong ass patches more than they do
It’s fine to fuck up the whole game and make everyone use akimbo but 3 months straight…
storm mural
You can still run akimbos when you don't feel like aiming and just want to leave your damage output to RNG
Btw, aren't we slated for a Seer buff anyway? I think they mentioned looking at "underperforming" legends after Assault and Skirmisher rework.
So I guess it's time to be dominated by Seer Q again.
bright slate
they are likely just going to buff his passive and ult
rose wraith
They should revert his ult nerf that made the information it gives worse
He’s a lot weaker now he could afford to be the best building scanner
silver raptor
Remove bullet slow on Octane stim - thoughts?
true ravine
Remove bullet slow on Octane stim - thoughts?
Rework octane, probably better
outer sleet
Ben might be the only person ive seen complain about ash
I mean we all love not being able to move why would we complain?
golden sphinx
They should just remove the damage octane takes from stim
severe canyon
yeah especially when ballistic can pretty much stim his entire team for 40 plus seconds with no drawbacks
golden sphinx
And also give an upgrade where his jump pad gives you damage resistance similar to the pathfinder zipline upgrade so you don't get shot out of the air
alpine trail
im new to apex, and i wanted to know what exactly do u do when ur getting shot at randomly
do i run away?
start moving around so they cant hit me?
also how exactly do i take gunfights?
vague nexus
Take cover
outer sleet
im new to apex, and i wanted to know what exactly do u do when ur getting shot a...
you die
especially when they walk up on you with 0 audio
there is no counter play
inner linden
Agreed, my problem with ash is that she can Even run down characters designed to...
balistic does that
but better
devout tusk
also how exactly do i take gunfights?
What kind of question is this bro
inner linden
also how exactly do i take gunfights?
you run at people
inner linden
back in the trenches
bright slate
inshallah
alpine trail
What kind of question is this bro
no like
whenever i try fighting some1
i usually get hit from 4 different angles and die in 2 seconds
outer sleet
i usually get hit from 4 different angles and die in 2 seconds
If you don't have info on where they are play safer angles I guess
it's pretty fucking hard though cant lie
prolly my biggest flaws as well so ye it takes time
rose wraith
whenever i try fighting some1
This has a lot to do with being new to having the game sense for tracking player positions
Play a lot of bloodhound if you’re new to help build that game sense by getting cheats on a button to do it for you
golden sphinx
i usually get hit from 4 different angles and die in 2 seconds
this but like when im playing alter
rose wraith
Over time you’ll learn to associate those wall hacks with ‘they’re probs Lu here’ spider senses
golden sphinx
whenever i see a streamer alter q behind the enemy they are somehow completely unaware
feel like whenever i do it all 3 turn around and just watch the portal and shoot me instantly lol
probably teammates not putting enough pressure from the front or something allowing them to focus me without taking any damage from behind
or probably just me doing bad portals tbh
rose wraith
whenever i see a streamer alter q behind the enemy they are somehow completely u...
It’s 100% a combo of ‘uncoordinated players lol’ and a good understanding of how aggro works
golden sphinx
yeahh lately i have been getting a hang of it mostly using it when i know 100% my teammates are fighting them from the front and try to do it in a place where they cant just shoot me the second i pop out
inner linden
Play a lot of bloodhound if you’re new to help build that game sense by getting ...
what are you saying
please stop
LOL
" play the character that scans places and gives you info of where people are without you having to really do anything so you build a shitty habit of needing a scan every 15/20 seconds instead of knowing yr self potential spots of where people will be " headahh'
devout tusk
just play with wallhacks on to get better tbh
inner linden
just get soft aim so you understand when you need to move your mouse more or less since it does it for you
devout tusk
exactly
rose wraith
what are you saying
? That’s such a common thing to help people who don’t have game sense
It can help fill in details on suspicions of where players are using audio cues
Over time you get better at understanding how audio cues relate to terrain
inner linden
its not helping newer players
if anything it makes them rely on abilities like that more instead of actively doing something themselves to acquire info
would be way better for a new player to actively die in positions and fix his overall positional awareness with each mistake
than build shitty habits bc they play 300 hours of bloodhound
rose wraith
a crutch that lets players skip parts of the game to focus on others is a very standard use of scaffolding
That’s not controversial
inner linden
it just doesnt work
you might think it does it only develops bad habits and reinforces them if anything
stop telling people to start building bad habits bc they will just get to bypass a small learning curve early
it just hurts them on the longrun\
and why even play a character like bloodhound assuming you are actually trying to bypass that learning curve
alter can deal with that better and be somewhat healthy ish
since the player can actually get out of situations and understand when overall position is bad and actively build it up
most people in this game just dont like trial and error to get better for whatever reason
rose wraith
Learning doesn’t always have to be the ball crushing get gud machine
It’s good to have tools to focus on things
inner linden
and giving them a temporary fix only fucks that even more
rose wraith
You don’t have to play blood to just not have to learn a skill
inner linden
what are you focusing on playing bloodhound
what is the scan gonna do if you are in a horrible spot
hushed forge
playing bloodhound to try learn enemy positioning is stupid icl
inner linden
chances are nothing
rose wraith
You can play him a bit and by watching where players get scanned you build strong intuition skills between hearing audio and understanding where players can be holding positions
inner linden
no you dont
hushed forge
theyll get too reliant on an ability on a mid legend
inner linden
because someone is in 1 place in 1 game doesnt mean
every player will be always near that same spot
hushed forge
literally just playing the game w decent audio will help build intuition on enemy positioning
inner linden
you then build a shit habit of needing to scan constantly as you actually dont have the awareness or game sense to realise where people are holding common spots of people etc
devout tusk
hear footsteps in a building "i wonder where they could be"
hushed forge
hear footsteps in a building "i wonder where they could be"
😭
apex has crazy audio as well
you hear people better the further away they are
inner linden
presses blood scan for 40 games inarow
hushed forge
I can hear people running unironically 50m away from me
hushed forge
and p accurately determine where they are
but then mfers be opening doors 1m behind me and theres zero audio istg
devout tusk
I can hear people running unironically 50m away from me
u hear the pebbles under their feet
rose wraith
Playing seer for a few seasons really helped me improve my game sense
hushed forge
u hear the pebbles under their feet
bro I be hearing the air moving or some shit 😭
rose wraith
I struggled with understanding depth and height for quite some time
devout tusk
but then pathfunder falling from orbit 2 feet from u is like 1 decibel
rose wraith
Playing cheater scanners helped me a ton with that
hushed forge
sometimes I dont even know if I actually heard them or not and Im like "yo theres people behind that rock" and all of a sudden a whole team emerges from behind the roc
inner linden
ok maybe it worked for you
doesnt mean itll work for someone else
and also its not a good way to build game sense up
hushed forge
Playing seer for a few seasons really helped me improve my game sense
a few seasons?
inner linden
dont have confirmation bias
hushed forge
are you sure it wasnt the couple hundred hours?
rose wraith
a few seasons?
Yeah when he was meta I would play scans maybe 20% of my games
The volume was nice
inner linden
i improved by gradually playing the game ≠ seer built my gamesense up
hushed forge
like yeah you played seer and your gamesense got better
rose wraith
Scans are good because you don’t use them as a way to skip having to be aware
hushed forge
but if youre playing even semi consistently a few seasons is like 300 hours
inner linden
or you played the game and got better by playing the game
rose wraith
I would guess where an opponent is and then use the scan to compare what my guess was
inner linden
Scans are good because you don’t use them as a way to skip having to be aware
no one said they arent good
but it isnt healthy for a new player
to start relying on scans
hushed forge
the more reasonable answer as to why you improved is just playing the game for multiple seasons
hushed forge
if I wanted to get better at dribbling in basketball and my hypothesis was that I can improve by playing with only one shoe on at a time or some shit
and I spent a month learning to dribble with only one shoe on
I wouldnt say "bro I obviously only improved cuz I took my left shoe off"
the more realistic answer would be "oh yeah I spent a month practicing dribbling thats probably why I improved and taking my shoe off had no impact"
inner linden
funnily enough new players also dont really use abilities at all and if they do its usually at the wrong time + if its scans they get overwhelmed with information
and tunnel vision
hushed forge
also that
inner linden
prime example my irl who has like 40 hours and plays bloodhound non stop
and he is an actual bot
because he just doesnt know anything about the game
hed improve faster if he wasnt on bloodhound
hushed forge
theyd need to learn util usage
inner linden
if he just died and tried figuring out how to improve for the next encounter
dying and knowing how you died from a scan
hushed forge
just spamming bloodhound q isnt gonna help anyone improve gamesense
inner linden
doesnt rly do shit
it would be different if they were playing an agro legend and were clearly limit testing positioning and space management
you would gradually build that up the more you tested and then you get an idea opf what you can do and why
and how much you can extend
playing blood as a new player and just q spaming only makes you reliant on the scan and doesnt actually improve your gamesense you just get complacent and expect people to be in certain pre determined spots which only hurts you in the long term the better you get and the better your enemies get
and you just end up becoming less aware if anything
ocean flame
Coach
inner linden
wintry cypress
HHAHAHA
devout tusk
you would gradually build that up the more you tested and then you get an idea o...
i feel like this too is super important like a new player might just get scared off cause they see enemies there and not learn how safe they are a lot of times
atomic kraken
is apex worth getting into nowadays
inner linden
is apex worth getting into nowadays
do you hate your life
are you schizophrenic
do you actively support far right political groups
do you hate the french?
this is a good checklist to get into apex...
atomic kraken
💔
hushed forge
this is a good checklist to get into apex...
remove the far right political groups and its pretty accurate for the average apex player
severe canyon
Nah keep it
And extrapolate the French hate
I don’t make the rules I just follow them
true ravine
remove the far right political groups and its pretty accurate for the average ap...
It applies to Europeans unfortunately
true ravine
is apex worth getting into nowadays
Not a lot of games will be like Apex, try it, if you like it keep playing
hushed forge
It applies to Europeans unfortunately
but Im european 🥺
hushed forge
erm what the flip
true ravine
but most europeans i met were very very right wing
hushed forge
are you sure they werent just racist
you could find the most far left european ever and chances are if theyre from central or eastern europe they still hate everyone that isnt from their country and doubly so if their skin colour is different
sonic marlin
we only hate on the french
hushed forge
yup
I hate french teammates so much
they are consistently the worst teammates I get in any game I play
true ravine
are you sure they werent just racist
this could be the case too
devout zealot
how often do you change your mouse skates?
sonic marlin
how often do you change your mouse skates?
When they lose glide
wintry cypress
this is a good checklist to get into apex...
late furnace
hed improve faster if he wasnt on bloodhound
no
if he is that new it realy doesnt matter if he uses abilities
basics first
main merlin
remove the far right political groups and its pretty accurate for the average ap...
I've never talked to soo many young gen z right aligned people until I started playing this game
hushed forge
I've never talked to soo many young gen z right aligned people until I started p...
far right and right leaning is completely different
main merlin
True but apex players are weird even though its the most lgbtq friendly shooter next to overwatch.
hushed forge
thats js the nature of competitive fps games ig
look at siege
the devs constantly push lgbtq/gender/identity politics in the lore/game and 90% of the playerbase is homophobic
CS has no politics in the game and 99% of the playerbase is homophobic and racist
and valorant is homophobic and racist in EU servers
same shit with siege as well where generally left leaning politics are part of the lore/game
realistically its because most people dont give a fuck about the lore of the game
I found out mirage was gay literally last week
main merlin
Twitter and Facebook are also breeding grounds for right leaning politics.
hushed forge
facebook yeah its mainly right leaning middle aged parents
twitter is a breeding ground for politics in general
hushed forge
twitter is just a bunch of communities trying to share a platform
main merlin
I can't go on Twitter without being bombarded by some shitty take from some weirdo republican
hushed forge
in one corner you have far right, one corner you have kinda right and vice versa
main merlin
Elon pushes it hard though
hushed forge
and then some people who dont care about politics or take neutral stances
hushed forge
Elon pushes it hard though
oh yeah elon doesnt shut the fuck up
its gotten to the point where my brain just filters his messages and I dont even process them
main merlin
The 🇷🇺 bots don't help either
hushed forge
politics are inescapable on twitter atp
everything has to be divisive for some reason
mainly because 90% of english speaking twitter is american tbh
americans have a problem with no bringing up politics every 5 seconds for some reason
*not
wintry cypress
politics are inescapable on twitter atp
I just decide not to be on twitter
main merlin
Twitter and reddit are good for one thing.🍑
wintry cypress
😭
Sadly
And instagram is good for everything
Of promo, racism and everything inbetween
devout zealot
all my battle net games just uninstalled themselves after my pc crashed n restarted lol
how is this even possible
wintry cypress
how is this even possible
Chinese spyware 🤔
inner linden
devout zealot
Chinese spyware 🤔
i scanned the pc
nothing was detected
but some more peolpe had this problem
it turned out the luncher forgot the game is installed
XD
devout tusk
I found out mirage was gay literally last week
i found out right now
outer sleet
Yo. Question for the people who have solo qued to masters before
devout tusk
insane that the character that can clone himself is gay
outer sleet
How the fuck am I supposed to do that?
devout tusk
thats so convenient for him
outer sleet
Do I just like clock in 10k hours or consume some crack or what?
devout tusk
yea
outer sleet
Bruhh
devout tusk
u need to be really disciplined on decision making like if your teammate dies for nothing
you just run
if fight looks lost just run away
outer sleet
Alr
devout tusk
they will flame you but at least youre alive
outer sleet
Ok so I just play selfishly?
devout tusk
sorta, more just trust your judgement as #1
true ravine
does this make me the worst or best player in the world?
idk
i think "most skilled" is on the highest part of the graph
idk
true ravine
How the fuck am I supposed to do that?
play to earn points
teammates died?
go craft
get safe kills
no need to 1v3 if you just want to rank up
also try to do the calls
if your teammates listen to you and you make good calls
you will probably get very easy 3° or 2° most of the time
vagrant basalt
it's 2019, you just heard about this new game called apex legends and how it's supposedly set in the titanfall universe but doesn't have any titans
you and your friends decide to try it out and king's canyon is what you end up calling home for the next 6 months
you buy every battlepass, you eagerly await for the new map - world's edge
some time passes and you just got your first heirloom
collection events start releasing more frequently out of the blue - you find it a bit weird but ignore it
you end up spectating a hacker in one of your matches, nothing respawn can't fix right
severe canyon
Respawn have sex with my buthole every day
vagrant basalt
eventually you get to know storm point, another anniversary event, and heirloom skins that cost 200$ and need to be leveled up through gameplay
severe canyon
You are not currently exemplifying a shared experience
vagrant basalt
shush let me write my 4chan story
severe canyon
?
vagrant basalt
one of your friends starts getting a bit bored with the game
vagrant basalt
eventually he decides to quit, freeing up a slot on your evening trios
you invite another guy who is unfamiliar with the game
you realize how daunting the new player experience has become
he finds the game hard and confusing especially the matchmaking
more collection events are releasing every few months
hushed forge
Twitter and reddit are good for one thing.🍑
hushed forge
insane that the character that can clone himself is gay
I just clocked 😭
mirage getting freaky w himself
vagrant basalt
it dawns on you what respawn is becoming
you start finding more and more cheaters & smurfs
apex is now a husk of the joy it used to bring you and your buddies
wintry cypress
insane that the character that can clone himself is gay
holy shit u right
vagrant basalt
you make the painful decision to quit amidst devlogs claiming to listen to player feedback and valuing what's actually important
you bid farewell with your beloved game
the end
vagrant basalt
i just wrote a short little fanfic
severe canyon
Is this real?
hushed forge
js being schizophrenic for fun
vagrant basalt
Is this real?
no but in my head it is
devout tusk
thank you bro im in tears at the emotion behind your writing
they should make a movie
severe canyon
Is discord even real
vagrant basalt
gabe newell once said he really wanted to get into apex legends
i wonder what his opinion is now
wintry cypress
Is discord even real
severe canyon
gabe newell once said he really wanted to get into apex legends
i wonder what hi...
I can’t imagine he would have a problem with collection events and gambling with packs Ngl
Of all people
spice halo
Maybe a stupid question but if you look at two equal sens, one with high dpi and low ingame, and another with low dpi and high ingame, would the higher dpi get more recoil smoothing?
true ravine
Maybe a stupid question but if you look at two equal sens, one with high dpi and...
Youll be moving the same amount since its the same sensitivity
i dont see how it would give you more recoil smoothing
spice halo
Thats what I figured, but also thought maybe since its more, smaller inputs that it would smooth better, dunno
severe canyon
Lf7 to play shipment on r5
alpine trail
Play a lot of bloodhound if you’re new to help build that game sense by getting ...
alright thanks for the help
ill play bloodhound more
should i play more bloodhound or recon in general?
rose wraith
should i play more bloodhound or recon in general?
Most important thing is to just play more
Game sense is made up of 10000000 different little situations
bright slate
game sense comes with time and some dedicated learning
rose wraith
Vods are op since you can pause the footage and reflect on what the right answer is for decision making
alpine trail
my aim is pretty good as i play a lot of val but apex is very different from val so its quite confusing
i dont play many br gaems
*games
alpine trail
Vods are op since you can pause the footage and reflect on what the right answer...
alright
alpine trail
Better if you get a higher rank to vod with you
should i js upload my games on vod review or here?
rose wraith
Idk if people review game footage here or not
bright slate
doki does and im sure somebody would help
cedar wigeon
If you play pubs play any legend you want if you play ranked try to go for meta legends
alpine trail
alright
rn im silver
4
but ive only been playin a couple day
s
its an old account that i didnt use much
rose wraith
Ya just play more and every time you die, mentally talk yourself through the situation and think about what to do better next time
Most problems can be solved by running away or taking a better position before interacting
bright slate
it should be said that running away doesnt mean go to the other side of the map
which is how my ranked randoms play
rose wraith
Yeah it’s more like moving to a position where you can allow the ring to pressure your opponent
Rather than feeling like you have to dot all by yourself
tight totem
equalize position by jumping on them with grapple or rev q
scientifically proven method
alpine trail
Which guns do u recommend I use or like what 2 types off guns should I generally have
cedar wigeon
Atm i would say some marksman/purp devotion and akimbo p20s or r9
30/30, G7 Scout or Bow
alpine trail
any assault rifles?
cedar wigeon
I think you would get out damaged from marksman
I mean sure if you just dropped and you have to take an early fight use everything you got
cedar wigeon
np
bright slate
Nemesis is the best ar by a long shot
cedar wigeon
Ah forgot nemesis
rose wraith
any assault rifles?
Carry st least one strong dueling gun (p2020 or something similar) and a DMR/ sniper; automatic rifles are fine but meta is currently chunk with dmrs then push so just be mindful
toxic saddle
<@1176598924912492646> stats still bugged in game?
pls tell me more 😊
or screenshot
shrewd pollen
pls tell me more 😊
sure
shrewd pollen
pls tell me more 😊
at the end of the game, stats are totally fucked. The third guy in screen got more kill than deaths for example
golden sphinx
new meta comp just dropped
stiff hedge
console wattson about to carry
quaint karma
at the end of the game, stats are totally fucked. The third guy in screen got mo...
its on purpose, no?
golden sphinx
they called me an n word for not going along with their play
so i just trolled them the whole game
gotta say the enemy teams really let me down this game since we somehow still placed second
rain nimbus
yes i am on voltaic discord @shrewd pollen
ornate gorge
Is apex worth it in the big 2025
sleek nebula
alpine trail
Carry st least one strong dueling gun (p2020 or something similar) and a DMR/ sn...
does g7 work
instead of a dmr
or sniper
could some1 review this, sry abt the audio, outplayed keeps recording mic.
vague karma
does g7 work
g7 is goated
i think most light ammo guns are meta rn no because of the ammo buff
alpine trail
whats the ammo buff?
vague karma
60>72 in a stack
rough ore
vt muddy? is he here?
alpine trail
5 million hours of r5
r5?
vague karma
How do I improve my aim and mechanics
do you have any clips?
true ravine
r5 doesn't support 4:3 <:sad:938966046445015130>
it does.
true ravine
also the server client is aids to install
its literally just download the launcher and press play.
severe canyon
He might mean for hosting
If not hes chalked
Also you can use stretched res
It’s just a bit more annoying to setup
severe canyon
bruh
vague karma
i never really looked at the servers because all i wanted to do was learn mantle jumping
i took 5 seconds to look at it and decided it was to complicated
severe canyon
narrow swift
the average r5 player
severe canyon
dont let him know about the secret tech of running to a headglitch every fight
or we got a prodigy in our midst
alpine trail
A modded client of apex with 1v1 lobbies
ahh ok
alpine trail
https://youtu.be/H_To_gAN6Ag
Could some1 review this btw
If it’s not too much trouble
rose wraith
does g7 work
If it takes a sniper stock it’s a DMR.
outer sleet
do devoitions only spawn in arsenals now? I don't think I've found a single one today idk
golden sphinx
my biggest enemy in apex
are ash players with devo
they just dash while it charges up making it hard to get them
and then they just turn and shoot you lol
alpine trail
Lmao
golden sphinx
i killed 2 of the 3 and only had to fight the ash and he did that to me
golden sphinx
i just decided to change my grip too back to my original grip cause it feels more comfortable
cedar wigeon
Its so stupid that you only need a full purp devo for it to be turbocharged
golden sphinx
which is not putting my pinky finger on the mouse at all
golden sphinx
Its so stupid that you only need a full purp devo for it to be turbocharged
yeahh should need to like get it to full purp and then use one of those arsenal caches
for it to upgrade or something
or better yet just put it back in the care package
golden sphinx
yeahh that would be good too
as long as they make it as rare as skull piercer cause i can never find those
its always gun shield or select fire
cedar wigeon
Even if you win games?
alpine trail
I don’t win games
I’m silver 3 btw, I started playing apex on my old account a couple days ago
cedar wigeon
Hm are you just playing ranked or pubs too?
alpine trail
Ranked
cedar wigeon
only?
cedar wigeon
I would say you should play normal pubs and get the feeling for fighting and gamesense then you can play ranked
I started with playing pubs too
Only spammed pubs until i got good games and won most of them
Also good for building confidence in fighting and playing the game
So you dont have the bad mindset "ohh I'm gonna do 200 damage again and die"
alpine trail
https://youtu.be/H_To_gAN6Ag
This one
I didn’t play great and sorry for the audio, outplayed is wierd
alpine trail
Alright thanks
cedar wigeon
Quick tipp also it helped me alot watching pros play
alpine trail
Kk I’ll watch them
I played a pubs game rn and I got 7 kills, 1.1k damage but I didn’t win
cedar wigeon
I mean its progress
Aight so i watched your VOD
To me it looks like you dont know what you want to do it seems like your kinda "lost" in the game
You loot a little run around and look for more
Try to think about what you wanna do in this ranked game
What loadout you wanna play
If you want to try to get early KP or first play for zone etc
At 5:20 you had a very bad position and you stayed there you shouldve searched for a better spot where you could heal up
They just got a knock for free
You couldve drop down in the tower and heal there
And btw you can upgrade your weapon from these light weapon stations or what these things are called
You can pick up an weapon and at the sides are some "panels" if you press E on them u upgrade your weapon
alpine trail
To me it looks like you dont know what you want to do it seems like your kinda "...
Yea I kinda am
alpine trail
At 5:20 you had a very bad position and you stayed there you shouldve searched f...
My positioning in general is really bad
I think I’m in a good spot and then get knocked from some other angle
cedar wigeon
Could be worse
cedar wigeon
I think I’m in a good spot and then get knocked from some other angle
Happens to pros aswell but in your case you saw that people are straight shooting at you but you still didnt move
alpine trail
Also I don’t know if my mechanics are good enough to go for early kp
Like they’re decent but not great
cedar wigeon
You should try to holster you weapons if you just run around
I saw that you are running around with your weapon out
alpine trail
But what if some1 shoots me from out of nowhere?
cedar wigeon
Also I don’t know if my mechanics are good enough to go for early kp
If you keep playing your gonna get good mechanics