apex

[unborn token]

Shoot y

I mean

Have a great day

[raven hull]

Ive been busy on my world

its like 50% done

if that

[dull falcon]

this is most of it

[unborn token]

BOMBACLAAT

[raven hull]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-happy-birthday-eden-basin-ido-bomboclat-bomboclat-gif-9138605067843489924

[ashen trench]

You did indeed

[raven hull]

If you need to brew pots your best bet is just going to be making a new portal a bit further away and as soon as you go through trying to make the area safe then working your way out from there

not really any other options as blaze powered is exclusive to the nether

[wintry cypress]

I open vt and i see minecraft talk

Ive just been grinding no mans sky

[raven hull]

[raven hull]

Just talking about the better game

what can we say

[wintry cypress]

Understandable

[wintry cypress]

Bro this shit is so much fun i love it

I have like 12 side quests open ☠️

[unborn token]

@raven hull yo ron

Apex tmrw

[raven hull]

No

[raven hull]

Also no

[unborn token]

What's wrong ron

[raven hull]

idk Gorg

what is wrong

and nah i just aint feeling apex atm

ill probably play at some point to finish this half of the BP

but other than that i dont really care

[unborn token]

Bros yapping

Holy shit

[raven hull]

[dull falcon]

@unborn token flat line recoil help

[mental ridge]

there is no recoil in apex ( @unborn token 2024)

[marsh sentinel]

pull down EZ

[dull falcon]

mnk is so ez no recoil

[mental ridge]

and u got your whole arm

its so much easier to controll the entire arm than just tilting your thumb over a fixed rotational axis

[cobalt ledge]

Are the Karma servers down?

[dull falcon]

no update ur app

[cobalt ledge]

thanks

[unborn token]

Pull down 👍

[unborn token]

There isnt

😭

[floral lodge]

I must be the last guy who still does spray patterns w my mouse

but I do it in combination with recoil smoothing etc

It’s a habit from my 7k hours of cs

[craggy prairie]

7k hours

That's more hours than I do in apex...

[wintry cypress]

I had like 1k in cs

But i dont bother with recoil patterns in apex

I just pull down + mouse smooth

And overtime i guess i subconsciously pick up on the pattern a bit

And i just start beaming

[dull falcon]

generally like a category of guns have similar patterns

and i simplify it like that

turbo havoc , volt have p the same feel

[tight totem]

i never knew volt had recoil

[wintry cypress]

Fr

It has so little that i dont feel any similarity at all

Except for the fact i need to pull down

[tropic cloak]

how do i aim better in apex?

[mental ridge]

smootheness

[wintry cypress]

Play game 2-3h a day and train fundamentals in aimtrainer

Ez

Pretty much a part time job

Just to keep up with a roller player

[mental ridge]

cs is out since ever

[mental ridge]

idk whats different with everybody on earth i swear the volt has the worst recoil out of all smg

[wintry cypress]

Its really hit or miss for me

With a lot of guns tbh

But volt especially

[mental ridge]

prowler

[wintry cypress]

Heh

[mental ridge]

prowler is the biggest hit or miss

[tropic cloak]

i just installed the game after not playing for like a year and i never really grinded so ion even know the basics 😭

im so bad

but

luckily for me

im doing like alot of reactive and tracking

but i am playing from my bed so im cooked

[tropic cloak]

volt is the most inconsistent gun ive touched

bro either you hit beams

ur u trace the enemies head

[mental ridge]

lf 3rd for ranked plat

[narrow swift]

whats the blgs gonna be?

algs format but for cc teams?

[flat coral]

nah it's gonna be open so all teams will compete

but smaller prize pool and a bit more informal

to spice up the off season a lil

bc apex doesn't have enough tournaments

[unborn token]

Peak weather fr

[unborn token]

3pl roller team won lan we can keep complaining

[hollow aspen]

New to the Voltaic community and aim training (just hit gold complete a couple days ago) mainly because I'm tired of my aim being garbage. I try not to get discouraged by rollers but it's tough. Nothing triggers me more than when I spectate and my box is being looted by a statue.

[trim crest]

got bad news for you... good aim will probably only make you feel worse

[hollow aspen]

Because I'll never be as good as a roller player?

[quaint karma]

whatever helps you cope brav

[trim crest]

That, and the effort you need to put in will be an extreme magnitude more

[quaint karma]

play r5, play smoothness, reactive tracking and precise tracking

thats about it

keep most of your aim training in-game

beyond a certain point

but i can guarantee you most of your deaths are not becuase theyre on controller

[trim crest]

I don't really think this has meaning. Of course there's more he can do, but that doesn't really change the frustration dying to someone who should be a lot worse than you.

[quaint karma]

dont think this is nearly as true anymore as it used tobe

[hollow aspen]

Yeah, makes sense. Rollers don't have to put in the same amount of time mnk players do.

[trim crest]

I agree, the controller nerf did seem to effect the worst of players. I hardly see any difference for anyone decent on controller though.

[hollow aspen]

Lot of truth to this as well, I agree

[unborn token]

It does

90% of deaths in this game

Aren't bc of the other input

Specially now that it isn't noticeable

[tight totem]

migiht join if u guy play in like 2 hours

if i don't just flatline on my bed

[mental ridge]

nah

[trim crest]

It sounds like this comes from a "You can always do more" perspective. I don't really think this has value when we're talking about someones frustration about dying to controller players. Fact still stands, it's much easier to get results with controller than m&k. I personally find that to be frustrating and would guess other people do as well.

[ruby storm]

anyone know if its possible to set apex to high priority?

[tight totem]

-high

[ruby storm]

oh word?

forgot i could do steam launch settings

[lapis moat]

ye rofl its not actually an excuse now unless ur perma swinging T1 rollers

dying to some bum in d4 is not because of input gap

[craggy prairie]

i'm blaming it anyways.

[ocean depot]

😅

[hot river]

I get the dying to roller player complaint last season but with the AA nerf and the aim flinch removal. Close range fights feel fair now. Im actually winning more 1v1s now.

The only issue is the akimbo hammerpoint mozams. Dying to that feels pretty cheap

[craggy prairie]

that name is crazy work

[bright slate]

hawk tuah has to be the least funny thing in the past century

[craggy prairie]

i am basically aceu

if only i played more smoothbot

[narrow swift]

smoothbot

yessir

[craggy prairie]

i HATE smoothbot

(for now)

[unborn token]

Pretty much

If you swing for a 50/50 w no real advantage and end up losing is yr fault

[unborn token]

Yes it has value because people keep saying ah I died to roller instead of looking out for what they actually did wrong to improve then they stay stagnant at the same skill level even if their mechanics improve and they keep doing the same braindead shit over and over

It's essentially rewarding bad behavior

Coz surely someone swinging in the open w no cover and 0 entry damage on a terrible angle is roller issue

[trim crest]

You're projecting

[narrow swift]

IM WIT BOOOLYMOONNNN

[unborn token]

How is that projectin

You told me that my doing better is literally not valuable

If anything you are projecting

[trim crest]

Looks like you can't read if that's what you take from my message.

[unborn token]

You said that it doesn't have value when it comes to being frustrated by dying to rollers

Then you fully deviate from what we were actually talking about

And just say " yeah it easier to see results on roller "

When we were talking about how it isn't rollers fault for every death

But whatever suits your coping iguess

[trim crest]

I said your advice which boils down to "git gud controllers don't matter" to his frustration over controller has no value, it's not likely to help him.

[ocean flame]

The difference is too small for ppl to actually perceive between 1v1s but controllers r still statistically favored in close range no?

It feels completely fine rn but im pretty sure the stats still favor rollers

[trim crest]

That doesn't translate to "it's impossible to improve, dying to controllers is inevitable"

[trim crest]

do we have new r5 aggregated stats?

[ocean flame]

Pretty much everyone's new accs i saw still have a fair bit higher kd against mnk vs rolle

[ocean flame]

nope

[unborn token]

My advice did not boil down to git good

[sterile mango]

the problem is probably a lot of people on this server are better than most mnk players mechanically so their brains cant comprehend not being able 1v1 someone without an advantage

like the correct player is always to 1v1 with an advantage but people can crutch mechanics

[unborn token]

Most players in this server are mechanically insane and complete npcs in the actual gams

Game

Shit happens

[ocean flame]

there arent even that many players here

[sterile mango]

agreed

[unborn token]

Afaik everytime you die it surely is not because of roller

[sterile mango]

its not

LOL

[unborn token]

And if you keep that mindset you'll stay stuck

Just losing yr shit

I mean tell that to lucid man@sterile mango

😭

[sterile mango]

i know im just reinforcing my point

[trim crest]

You're extrapolating what was said to the moon like a dumb ass

Read better please

[unborn token]

You are the one who did that in the first place

The literal thing had to do with something completely different from what you are yapping about

[trim crest]

I'm all ears

I've been saying the same thing this whole time

[unborn token]

You just chimed in and said " your point is dogshit bc people still get frustrated dying to rollers "

It was legit never about roller being statistically better or the frustration

You just fully deviated to a different point

[trim crest]

Sounds like frustration to me.

[unborn token]

It simply was about every death basically being the fault of roller which it isn't

And it's just skill issue

No one denied anything about the input being strong

It's just yr fault dying like that most of the times

If you choose to blame it on roller it's yr choice

It's just cope

[trim crest]

Go back, read his post.

Now you understand why I said you're projecting.

[unborn token]

" hey guys I've spent 80% of my playtime doing mechanics and I can't figure out why I keep dying in game even tho my mechanics are theoretically better than others " aaah post

Again

It's just cope

It's not rollers fault

I can guarantee you if the guy sends a clip of deaths

[trim crest]

He didn't say anything of the sort. Literally said "I'm new to aim training".

[unborn token]

I can find 90 different things

That are wrong

[trim crest]

No shit, but that is not going to solve his frustration.

[sterile mango]

wrong?

literally just wrong tho

[unborn token]

What's gonna solve it is him realizing that he could've done 30 different things better instead of " aim better "

[sterile mango]

his frustration comes from losing to roller players

[unborn token]

It's his mental

[sterile mango]

if he beats roller players

more than he loses to them

frustration solved

[narrow swift]

smh its because you only have 80% of your time spent doing mechs, should be 100

[trim crest]

Got bad news, he's always going to lose to rollers.

[sterile mango]

LOL

[unborn token]

Agreed

[unborn token]

No?

Do you know how the game works

????

[unborn token]

But iguess I'm the one projecting

[trim crest]

https://r5r.dev/leaderboard.php?sub_type=lifetime_accuracy#s
Yes I can read the sheet, can you?

[unborn token]

BRO

[sterile mango]

brother

APEX LEGENDS

[unborn token]

HAVE YOU PLAYED BR

[sterile mango]

IS NOT R5 RELOADED

[unborn token]

THE ACTUAL GAME

HELLO

Are you mattyow?

Is even pressing abilities an aim filter

Too much?

[sterile mango]

mfw top 0.01% of roller players on average beat 0.01% of mnk players

boo hoo

[trim crest]

Do we need to go grab the roller to m&k ALGS?

[unborn token]

Should we just water the actual RETAIL GAME DOWN TO MECHANICS

[sterile mango]

dude

[unborn token]

I watched lan

DID YOU SEE WHAT MNKS DID

IN COMPARISON TO ROLLER

HELLO

HELLLOOOOOOO

[sterile mango]

like

yes roller on the high end performs better than mnk on average

[unborn token]

The reason you die in the actual game isn't someone being mechanically better

[sterile mango]

true statement

[unborn token]

It is like 1/10000 fimes

Times

[sterile mango]

on the other hand, the thing you've been arguing (apparently) which was that one dude's original post

he is not an ALGS player nor is he a top tier r5 player

[unborn token]

I've seen mfs octane stim into someone w neg hp and 50/50 w a pk and then say " it's bc he is roller"

Maybe yr Brain needs .4

[trim crest]

My point was, there's always bigger fish. Roller isn't going to go away just getting better. If you want to not be frustrated about it, you have to solve that your own way mentally.

[sterile mango]

sure

i can accept that

doesnt change that the way you argued about it was like

downright incompetent

[unborn token]

My boy light (phos in Greek) spitting facts rn

[sterile mango]

top tier R5, yea roller is a problem

but even in ALGS at this point roller is a problem in the fact that it makes it harder for you as an MNK player to execute a play

if you're still going for the right play more than a roller team as an MNK team you're still gonna succeed more than them

[lapis moat]

those r5 stats were from when it was 0.4 btw

[sterile mango]

xd

[unborn token]

^

I don't feel who is roller who isn't rn on r5

Besides some insane player or if ik it's a t1 pro

[trim crest]

It's a mix right? Mostly the old value as of this point.

[sterile mango]

its pretty noticeable if you're playing vamp tbh

[lapis moat]

barely a mix lol

[narrow swift]

theres like one acc whos stats are purely for 0.3

[trim crest]

May as well cut it off and reset a new one at this point..

[narrow swift]

maybe more a lot are alts

[lapis moat]

this is true but vamp is soooo disconnected from actual 1s or even just the game itself

[sterile mango]

yes obv

[unborn token]

Only there yeah

At times

Bc endurance

[trim crest]

Pretty easy sitting on the side line throwing garbage. Feel free to pick out anything I said now that you seem to understand where I'm coming from.

[sterile mango]

my bad for coming into the convo late 💯

[trim crest]

don't let it happen again

[sterile mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127846629412700270/1259611679847612519/ezgif-2-f19c7ea943.gif

[lapis moat]

what even is the point thats being argued i saw it change like 3 times

[sterile mango]

lucid claims that it was this but he shifted the goalpost about 8 times

also constantly insulting people they're arguing against which is a good look definitely

[trim crest]

Like I said, if you're going to take a shot at me, at least quote me doing it.

[lapis moat]

sooooo the point in q

[sterile mango]

i literally quoted you 😭

[trim crest]

Show where I "shifted the goalpost"

[sterile mango]

sure gimme a sec

[lapis moat]

ok i scrolled up all the way to the beginning and nosh is just right lol

This entire thread is just one guy coming in and arguing a point that is correct on its own but has no relation to what other people are actually saying

[trim crest]

Except complete relation to what the main post was.

[sterile mango]

1.This is the original message, which shows the dude being frustrated. Sure.
2. After a brief message by nosh saying how deaths are not mostly due to controller anymore, you just say that it doesnt really have meaning because the frustration comes from dying to someone you are supposed to be better than.
3.Then there's a brief discussion again about how there's more ways to be better than someone other than mechanics, WHICH IS TRUE, to you just replying with "you're projecting" 😭 (nice deflection)
4. I then say AGAIN, that if the dude BEATS the controller players without just relying on mechanics the frustration will be gone (which is also what @unborn token was saying basically)
5. You just dont reply to those at all and start posting R5 stats (literally outdated) which is "shifting the goalpost" because we go from obviously talking about a dude who literally just said they are Gold Voltaic (and no disrespect but they are definitely not being effected by top tier controller play) and the whole time we had been talking about actual fucking BR which is NOT R5r 1v1s
6. lol

[lapis moat]

How exactly is your point about being mad at controller is a mindset issue (which is true) related to "Controller is no longer unfair enough that it is no longer an actual excuse to die in game unless you play vamp or 1v1s with Tier 1 Controller pros"

[sterile mango]

yea my bad not 8 goalpost shifts only one 👍

[lapis moat]

It quite literally is another topic on its own

[sterile mango]

i literally said the same thing

the point he assumes to make is true

but the way he argued the entire time

is fucking dogshit

and contradictory

[lapis moat]

Not really when the basis for it (getting mad at controllers when ur VT gold) is invalid already

[narrow swift]

its not that deep

[sterile mango]

yea the "assumes" is there for a reason

i just think he realised he's arguing for literally 0 at some point and tried to save it

whatever i literally have like 10 messages in this server total and 8 of them are in the last 15 minutes

i really shouldnt care

[trim crest]

Do you think it's less effort for a controller player ( even now ) to get the same or better results as m&k?

[trim crest]

I don't think anything they said is wrong. I agree with them ( for the most part ). I've said multiple times above that the advice isn't going to be helpful for his frustration.

[lapis moat]

"Controller is no longer unfair enough that it is no longer an actual excuse to die in game unless you play vamp or 1v1s with Tier 1 Controller pros" means the basis for being frustrated when you are VT gold and 99.999% likely dying to NOT INPUT GAPS is INVALID

[trim crest]

Above I kind of just addressed this, I never disagreed with the information of your post, just the application.

The R5 stats were just to show a point that no matter how good he gets, controllers are going to be there, and the majority of players.
He can't "outskill" himself away from controller players. He's going to be fighting them as long as he plays this game, and they're probably going to have similar advantages and disadvantages to what they have now.

[sterile mango]

"They're gonna have similar advantages and disadvantages" assumes that they would both have the same game knowledge

[trim crest]

You didn't really answer my question?

[trim crest]

I'm saying controller will probably have similar advantages and disadvantages in the future as now.

[sterile mango]

ah sry

read wrong

but like

i still dont think yoy get it

this guy is frustrated because he's dying to controller players

controller is always going to be there

true

players are majority controller

true

the way you beat the frustration

is literally just get better

[severe canyon]

Just play 1000 hours of Kovaaks

Not hard

[sterile mango]

it really fucking is

[severe canyon]

Jeez

[trim crest]

Lucid — Today at 1:22 AM
Do you think it's less effort for a controller player ( even now ) to get the same or better results as m&k?

Please both answer this question

it will probably end this conversation

[severe canyon]

Just watch a coaching vod

Jeez

[unborn token]

(controller players have to do more for other ranges close range is gifted somewhat)

[dull falcon]

Mnk is so much easier

[unborn token]

Here I answered your question

[narrow swift]

wrthcrw coaching saved me

[trim crest]

Thx

[lapis moat]

yes, controller is much easier to see results on, but this is something that you are quite literally signing up for when you play MnK

More importantly the point is that the gap between the inputs is no longer insanely huge that it's impossible to cross

[trim crest]

Okay then I think you can understand why a newer player would be frustrated.

[dull falcon]

Yall got 60 buttons and ur arm and more muscls groups to aim w

Stop complaining and get good

[unborn token]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[dull falcon]

Cry or swap

[severe canyon]

I cry

[unborn token]

Coffee x caffeine snus x American spirit

[lapis moat]

and "effort spent" is a terrible metric to base your perception around

[unborn token]

@severe canyon pubs when

[trim crest]

why?

[unborn token]

Oh wait wrong tag

[lapis moat]

a lot of people spend a lot of effort and get absolutely nowhere, no one "deserves" to be good for "grinding"

[unborn token]

@dull falcon

[severe canyon]

Never

[dull falcon]

I got time Thursday

[unborn token]

Bc there are other factors

[lapis moat]

fuck pubs we got revival in 1 day

lock in

[dull falcon]

I miss three strikes

[unborn token]

Shiii

[severe canyon]

What’s revival again

[sterile mango]

how much effort you spend is irrelevant if the majority of your effort is spent towards wrong things

[unborn token]

Kd grinding

Ifs time

[lapis moat]

revival >>>>>> 3 strikes

[unborn token]

Post lan depression x passion

[lapis moat]

not even close

[severe canyon]

Pogchampion

[unborn token]

True as fuck

[narrow swift]

3 strikes was fun until everyone was running aids comps

[unborn token]

Fuck cancer castle mirage lifeline

[narrow swift]

the chaos was fun asl

[severe canyon]

That shit was so annoying

[dull falcon]

^

[severe canyon]

Never killed a team

[narrow swift]

revival so much more better

turn brain off run at peeps

[severe canyon]

Yeah

Three strikes was better at the start

[unborn token]

How I'ma be today

[narrow swift]

🥶

[dull falcon]

U coulda got more

[narrow swift]

drip too hard dont stand too close or smth

[severe canyon]

How many Ferraris you own??/?&

[narrow swift]

lil baby is ass

[severe canyon]

No shit

[trim crest]

I'm not really addressing who "deserves" anything. I'm only saying, if someone is getting less out of more time, it's going to be pretty frustrating.

Do you not think that would be frustrating?

[dull falcon]

Nah he got good songs needa lay off the auto tune

Idk if that's his real voice atp

[lapis moat]

let it go man hes ass now

[narrow swift]

ima be real like r5 stats are kinda meaningless, like some top ppl only play r5 like stonecraft, some top ppl good in r5 and fall over instantly in a team fight

[sterile mango]

Would you get mad that you're losing to someone who has 100 hours in Vdim if you have 200 hours in gridshot

doki said that you're signing up for it when you play mnk

its true

[severe canyon]

Oh hell naw jigsaw

[lapis moat]

not really when if you are grinding correctly you can most likely overcome the same challenges you face now in months (extremely short time)

[trim crest]

I agree with this argument. I think this would be a good thing to say to him.

[dull falcon]

In the beginning bro was really good tho that's one album and his 1st viral hit omg

[narrow swift]

okaymar wipes lil baby

[dull falcon]

I think as an mnk player u need to set realistic standards

[lapis moat]

yea lol a bunch of "good rollers" are just dogshit in game and even in ranked

[severe canyon]

RXKnephew pounds lil baby in a rap battle

[lapis moat]

i thought i would get deadlifted in ranked but that just didnt happen

[lapis moat]

nah fax

[dull falcon]

Its healthy to aim to have like insane accuracy on roller on mnk u can try to get as close but ur not getting far and u get burnout fast

[lapis moat]

slitherman owns the rap game

[severe canyon]

Real shit

[dull falcon]

What u know bout slither conspiracy @lapis moat

[narrow swift]

just stop comparing yourself to rollers honestly, youd prolly improve a lot more

[severe canyon]

I aim for 70% acc on mnk

How long take?

[sterile mango]

stop comparing yourself to anyone

[dull falcon]

Lol

[sterile mango]

about 40 minutes by car mate

[lapis moat]

no cap if i lock in harder i can hit 45% on japan

for sure

[narrow swift]

prescribed to 3k hrs of kovaaks

[severe canyon]

I compare myself to kashera everyday, I will be as good as him!!/!

[dull falcon]

Mad mfs was on quake the other day

[trim crest]

Going to go in a loop here so no point responding to this one. I'll just end on I agree that when you start playing you're signing up for the m&k situation and that probably is the way to facing the frustration ( Accept it for what it is or play a different game ).

[lapis moat]

when i was doing the jp challenge i was avging 42 already

[narrow swift]

ql is fun, im bad at it but still fun

[dull falcon]

Kashera mid i will never forget how he let tsm win

[severe canyon]

Do people on Jp servers just not strafe

[unborn token]

i have

way more

kurev wrote me happy 20

[lapis moat]

mnks on japan just jump (free) and the rollers are disabled

[dull falcon]

2x on a fucking volt bro what's that about

[unborn token]

i also asked hideouts

they hire cheaters

for their team

[dull falcon]

When is the next lan?

[unborn token]

same like riot

[unborn token]

29th feb

or jan

dont remember

in japan

[dull falcon]

I wanna go to one

[unborn token]

ill prob go

think its time to get an op1

[narrow swift]

aint the tickets mad expensive

[dull falcon]

Never left the states might as well do it for something i like

[severe canyon]

Word

[unborn token]

yed

[dull falcon]

How so?

Price wise

[unborn token]

bro its 800

min

for a flight there

[severe canyon]

Probably because there are a lot more super fans in Japan

That too

[unborn token]

Type shit

won that nessie first try

next to the alliance booth

simply the goat

[severe canyon]

Why do you have Microsoft edge, google chrome and opera

Unforgivable

[unborn token]

no clue

@dull falcon

[dull falcon]

Niceee

[unborn token]

shit was fucking lit

[dull falcon]

1k for a ticket nah

[unborn token]

i mean i spent

like

1.2k

for this

itll prob be more for japan lan

if i save everythintg

[dull falcon]

Its crazy was prices always this high

[unborn token]

duh

yr flying to other countries

and y need to find somewherre to stay

• food everyday

on top of extra shit

and arena food and drinks are expensive

i got nosh wxltzy jersey and nessie and my self a gild one

dropped 200

was 175 got the change but still yk

[severe canyon]

You nosh sugar daddy

Damn

[unborn token]

no i owed him 75 euros

[dull falcon]

I mean yeah but theres def mire valuable things for 800-1k

[unborn token]

lol

but yeah i buy him shit whenever idc

he a homie

me and nosh were high as fuck at the pavement

[severe canyon]

16 consoles

[unborn token]

havent aim trained in 3 weeks near

[severe canyon]

What’s the ddh part

[unborn token]

its lddh

dk what it stands fore

[dull falcon]

The kovaaks beta stuff is kinda cool

[unborn token]

gotta get more than tragedy

threw a good 5k score bc im re

do i get op1 8k

[raven hull]

mf you were low on the pavement

[unborn token]

Me and nosh were so zooted

I started praying to the pavement

To bless his cough

[sinful thistle]

Yes

[raven hull]

You had to get lifeline revived

[sinful thistle]

Or xm18k

[raven hull]

i mean its cheap, could always try it and return it if its ass

i would have got it but i just cannot deal with a cable so i got a beast x max instead

[unborn token]

LIFELINE

[floral lodge]

Hoping I finish early to go home and play apex

ngl

[raven hull]

he addicted again

[floral lodge]

Post lan passion

[unborn token]

University

Onagaa

I got post lan depression

And passion

Met my goat limazhino irl

[floral lodge]

Bro I cba it’s all health and safety shit this week

[unborn token]

Fr cuh

How is yr voice bte

Btw

[floral lodge]

I’m taking notes on electrical voltages and other random shit

[unborn token]

Is it coming back

[floral lodge]

It’s fine now u will hear on vc

[raven hull]

thats because you have come home and been forced to remember you're Greek

[unborn token]

💀

[floral lodge]

Like taking notes on fire extinguishers and PPE

I’m so bored

And site safety procedures

[unborn token]

Unlucky cuh

I'm giving algebra tomorrow

For the idk time

Gonna fail again bc I hate this fucking teacher

He is such a

FUCKING

I won't say it

:):):):):):)

Griddy no filter has to chill

[strange canyon]

What are you doing?

[floral lodge]

Mechanical engineering

it’s the first day of the year however so it’s all boring admin safety shit

[unborn token]

mekanik

[raven hull]

"Point at fire and not at face"

[mental ridge]

dont use co2 in small closed room

[raven hull]

Or do, its really up to you and if you want to survive

[mental ridge]

water is awesome but u need alot

amd fire extinguisher dont have alot of water

[strange canyon]

Oh

Yeh that's usually how it goes

Sometimes I get confused looking at schematics

[unborn token]

im playing like a complete ai after 3 weeks and carrying these dogs

wow

[ocean flame]

is it surprising that mixtape doesnt have good players

[unborn token]

Yrah

Idk

[woeful garnet]

Me when i frag out in a lobby full of 40 year old construction workers

[unborn token]

Real

But yr astra voltaic you should be doing better fr

[mental ridge]

mixtape requires its own gamesense lmao i cant play mixtape anymore

[tight totem]

mixtape is the easiest gamemode

all it requires is clicking and maybe not aping 5 people at the same time

[mental ridge]

if youre used to play around 2 mates heavily mixtape becomes a pain

[tight totem]

brother

just adapt

imo pubs is waaaaaay harder

i cant play pubs i genuinely have brain damage i cant lock in

[mental ridge]

what no

pubs easy peasy

[tight totem]

i dont hsve patience for looting

even in ranked less in pu bs

dumb pushes my pssions

[rose wraith]

New map seems cool

Very open

[mental ridge]

drop hot lol

but not so hot u cant get loot

[tropic cloak]

Guys I'm just bad at apex 😭

[mental ridge]

shame

[tight totem]

that's what i do but

the issue what i face when addicted to fighting is that i don't have bats

and then i get clapped bcs i ain't got no bats

[vast oak]

this seems like a skill issue

[narrow swift]

play more
try warming up with kovaaks if you want
if you can record vods of what your doing helps you identify your mistakes more even comparing it to someone elses gameplay
try have fun

👍

and ask other people for advice, most of the time theyd be helpful

[mental ridge]

thats why u win fights so u get batts from enemies

ez

[craggy prairie]

[tight totem]

opps ain't got batts

esp offdrop

healing flesh is even more painful

[craggy prairie]

this calls for a support!

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

ah. wait. wrong game.

[mental ridge]

thats why u win fights

so u get that stuff

just be better

ez

like use a bit of cover ape them down free loot

[tight totem]

ye

'im tryna learn to win fights without using much flesh

i have to slow down but it's interesting

[craggy prairie]

it's so difficult even in pubs because people play so close to each other...the time that you spend exchanging damage leads to low meds and a potential third party

elp

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-gif-23234433

[mental ridge]

no u gotta be so quick and up their butt they dont find time to turn arround

flanking sides is so crucial

[mental ridge]

exchanging dmg is sucha waste of time

search for an entry by flanking not by damaging

[tight totem]

i'm talking about 1v3

not 3v3

[craggy prairie]

1v3

that's especially a tall order

lol

i wish that i could do et

[mental ridge]

same flanking not damaging

trying to win a 1v3 with just raw dps is impossible

singling out fights
by flanking and zoning with abilities / grenades

[tight totem]

yea

wait i'm in a game rn

oaky yea sry i might've worded that a bit badly

[mental ridge]

https://youtu.be/Ik9AlnhLcvA?si=WVavl0BBbRQhpU5H

haven't watched it yet can give u my opinion

later

[tight totem]

what i meant was that imo i think it's a lot better to get people to push you rather than push them

way easier to get isolated 1v1s that way

also evading dmg = attempting to take less dmg as i mentioned earlier is what i'm trying to improve rn

[mental ridge]

yes but u gotta flank for that if u stay stationary theyll just hold hands

[tight totem]

i don't think you have to flank every time

[mental ridge]

falling back is an option but this playstyle where pretend u fall back but actually kinda fake it to get a flank is effective imo

[tight totem]

what do you mean by flank bcs it sounds like we're talking about two different things

[mental ridge]

engaging them from a angle they dont expect

[tight totem]

okay

i thought u meant from behind

[mental ridge]

ofc u can headglitch and let them run into you

[mental ridge]

isnt the flank the side of a formation ?

[tight totem]

i always thought of flank as behind the enemy

/not in vision

[mental ridge]

i guess in overwatch thats flanking the backline

since u wanna take out dps and healers and dont wanna flank the tanks

[tight totem]

i see

so we were talking about similar things

i think it's just easier if i just run down my process and then u can say what's wrong

when i need to 1v3 or even 1v2, depending on the situation, i usually try to exchange dmg until i either crack one or knock one without me taking too much dmg, after that i'd get closer and either 1v2/1v1 with cover isolating the 1v1s

like a small box etc

success rate is a myth tho

other way is to justyea let them chall me 1 by 1 but that usually only works on bozos or abusing high ground

@mental ridge

[ocean flame]

i tried watching 2 of wrthcrw's vids and theres just sooo much time spent on the ms paint overlay thing lmao

its usually all basic stuff anyway

[mental ridge]

atleast he got the basics

[ocean flame]

gotta get better at the drawing part

[severe canyon]

Literally every apex coach be doodling

[mental ridge]

@lapis moat give him lessons

[ocean flame]

i watched a few val coaches and it was so much better than the apex coaches we get

[severe canyon]

watch snoupiis vid

hes be doing trigonometry with every situation

its so bad

[tight totem]

the banana guy goes crazy

bro made me a real human being in valorant from apex

[mental ridge]

well has val a bigger pc playerbase?

[tight totem]

what does that have to do with coaching quality

[mental ridge]

more Players = more potential coaches = top choaches are better

[ocean flame]

I THINK THATS THE GUY I WATCHED

[mental ridge]

and ontop of that val has people comming over from cs so more history and even more potential coaches

[ocean flame]

i faintly remember a "banana"

i acually learnt some peek stuff from it

[floral lodge]

does anybody have the steelseries apex pro

[ocean flame]

only thing i ever learnt from coaches

[floral lodge]

or similar

[alpine trail]

banana as facecam

[tight totem]

oh u confused me with the pc part

[floral lodge]

what is the best actuation and rapid trigger values for apex

cause i think i have mine sset up wrong

[tight totem]

i've got 0.1

[mental ridge]

i dont count console players as people who would coach

[tight totem]

i'd let jynxzii coach me anyday

[ocean flame]

0.1 is so low

Doesnt rhat activate from any wobble

[tight totem]

nah it's chill

i lowkey should put my shift on 0.1 as well i keep touching it too light

[ocean flame]

Crazy

My wooting's keys have quite a bit of wobble

0.1 activates all the time unless my fingers are completely not in contact

[mental ridge]

get some better switches

gateron dual rails or jades or geon raptors

or the new v2 lecker

[sinful thistle]

dont watch this person

pls

[sinful thistle]

everything on lowest and then mid for abilities so u dont accidentally press them

[mental ridge]

hes funne

coz he talks so much and barely brings anything across

but what he says aint wrong

all he needs is a tutorial on how to write a script

[narrow swift]

i wish somebody told me thia earlier

[ocean flame]

u could ask half the ppl in here and theyd know more than what you get from those vids

[narrow swift]

i used to their vids when i first started trying better but now looking at of it is just basic or totally irrelevant stuff thats just over explained coz why the fuck not

[ocean flame]

yea

not the sort of thing anyone should be paying for

[narrow swift]

i think damaging part is they way she explains strafe

she explains it in a way where its a pattern of sorts that u shud stick to

which i dont think is right at all yknow

[ocean flame]

lol

the classic apex youtube shorts strate

gy

left right left left "combo"

as if we r playing a fighting game

[narrow swift]

its why people shud be careful spending money on """aim coaches"""

im not saying all bad hell no

but some

will just say kovaaks and "mirror enemy omegalol"

£50 please 🙂

[tight totem]

imperialallah 300e coach go zone idiota

[floral lodge]

ty peepo

i have had this since december never configured it

bc i stopped playing for a while

it also seemingly has this snap tap like thing that everyone goes on about

[ocean flame]

snap tap doesnt do much in apex

[floral lodge]

i thought it was only a razer thing for now

but ig only a matter of time until everyone copied it bc ofc

[tight totem]

anyone wanna third plat eu bozo session i'm on my alt

[sinful thistle]

it's pretty strong for strafing

just not super noticeable

[mental ridge]

@tight totemu still on?

[tight totem]

i just got off

got heirloom for smurf

[mental ridge]

get back on

gotta play heirloom on smurf

[tight totem]

i'm going to play corekeeper with my mate

[mental ridge]

bruh

[tight totem]

endgame in apex is playing farming games

[mental ridge]

what?

[wintry cypress]

Endgame in apex is playing farming games

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/endgame-now-gif-14938794

[vague nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079501158575521805/1280578137427677286/image.png?ex=66d896d3&is=66d74553&hm=8b3e81b22be2b62d65ec1265e0f765e8928df56b294dd7cb071db8f9240ac2be&

gonna wait for the karambit

if the event its on has cool skins, imma get the event, but if the skins are shit, ill just wait to use my shards

[mental ridge]

there is a karambit comming

[vague nexus]

yeah, there was a name in the files

got datamined

but no model yet

i think i can count on my fingers how many games i played as her

bruh dont get heirlooms on characters you dont play or dont plan on playing

i got pathfinder, caustic and rev prestige with loom and i dont even use them

legend specific heirlooms

the wraith kunai is only for wraith

if that wasnt the case id run rev sythe on everyone

that thing is sick

the katar and buster sword are the only universal heirlooms

but the karambit will be universtal too

so depending on how cool it looks

might have to cop it

they are also really expensive

not like a normal collection event

[vague nexus]

nosh getting mad at me for being a better gambler

[wintry cypress]

LMAO

[quaint karma]

🗣️

[craggy prairie]

guys elp

my settings go away when i turn game off

[craggy prairie]

[visual bluff]

im locked in today fr

[visual bluff]

ok nvm im not locked in, im trolling on r5

[craggy prairie]

i sleep

[next kettle]

how tf is noname so smooth on 0.9 1600dpi

[tight totem]

show clip pls @next kettle

wait sorry i have brai damage ive been looking for them as IHateTheWorld but theyre actually searchable as noname apex

oh my god

[strange canyon]

You can get one of the universal heirlooms

[raven hull]

45 seconds in you put that man in the cuck cage

[raven hull]

bro leaked the griddy wtf

ban him

cut his balls off

[mental ridge]

practice

play smoothbot

[unborn token]

GRIDDY LEAKAGE

NOOOOO

[raven hull]

please word it any other way than that

Griddy "leakage" sounds like the aftermath of you lot at Lan together

[unborn token]

💀💀💀

Just like that one time nosh and I were high asf making the diarrhea potion from sushi sauces

😔😔😔😔

[raven hull]

[vague nexus]

My new mouse pad just got shipped

[unborn token]

[vague nexus]

They have this in stock again

[novel loom]

Nutty score. Probably one of the most relevant scenarios for apex as well

[marsh snow]

gaw damnnn

[ocean flame]

Ngl

Just watched some of tsm's matches

They played like dogshit

Looked like headless chickens most of the time

Cant believe that got 4th

[wintry cypress]

Shouldve been playing smoothbot

[mental ridge]

yeah i posted that yesterday in peripherals

[wintry cypress]

is that one of those alibaba glass pads someone sent in here earlier

with a custom print

[mental ridge]

the glassworks Kazemi?

no its from kurosons glasspad department

[toxic magnet]

you bought one?

[mental ridge]

i already have mine

[toxic magnet]

ah

[toxic magnet]

damn doodle maya looks awesome

[mental ridge]

yes and it feels awesome tze clicks are so much better than my beast x max

nice rebound

light clicks

@toxic magnet you got a Kazemi too?

[toxic magnet]

soon

they just hit EU yesterday

[mental ridge]

lmao u waiting for ever huh

[toxic magnet]

max gaming sending out all of their shit now estimated for zerk gaming to get theirs in about a week

[mental ridge]

im so glad i copped one on their website

[toxic magnet]

the delays ong went crazy

i meant to set an alarm on their website

[mental ridge]

have mine for ever already

[toxic magnet]

for drop time

but i forgot so i missed it

i meant to preorder on ZGM at 11am and if i got Kazemi on the main store i would have cancelled my order on ZGM but i think i was in a game when the drop happened

so i just stuck with ZGM

[unborn token]

https://x.com/robbycantaim/status/1830929711322800586?t=t7XolWi0CNysszeMvWme5g&s=19

robby (@robbycantaim) on X

Artisan pads gotta be the biggest waste of money im so sick of all these retard fgttts glazing them because they are "hand made in japan". no they do not have any durability advantage over a "budget" cloth pad its legit just an overpriced piece of cloth don't fall for the scam

Twitter · Sep 3, 2024, 11:23 AM

What we saying

Given the fact that Abt a solid 90% of the apex pro scene is on artisan pads

Or some sort of their clones

Personally I haven't had any better cloth pad and the Raiden is by far the best I've touched cloth wise although the durability part is iguess kind of right to an extent

[mental ridge]

lmao hes overpaying so hard for artisan he literally gets scammed

and they cant propperly clean cloth pads either

[mental ridge]

i mean all u gotta learn is how to gently wash it

id agree that a artisan aint worth 120€

but paying 120€ is stupid on its own lmao

[severe canyon]

they cost like 40 on aritsan website

did he get it shipped around the world twice on a sailboat

[mental ridge]

like even with big customs and expensive shipping getting over 80€ is hard

even on Amazon u pay under 100€

[severe canyon]

i see people selling preowned shidenkai for like 130

and im just confused

[mental ridge]

lmao

artisans are like 65€ on maxgaming.gg

key 83 their most expensive one is just 80 on maxgaming.gg preorder

[severe canyon]

is key 83 out yet

[mental ridge]

no

[severe canyon]

ive been waiting for it to come out

looks pretty solid

[mental ridge]

idk if i should get it

ive been glass pilled but now lately coz i had no dry sleeve (washing) i had to play cloth and rediscoverd my hien mid to be faster than my raiden (with jade donuts)

i guess the rough texture on sink in proof skates has less surface area

[severe canyon]

i was thinking about getting skypad but im going to japan in a few weeks and it might just be a better idea to get some cheap artisan if i can find them

[mental ridge]

yeah

[mental ridge]

btw the Kazemi is ordable on maxgaming.gg i realy like that pad

[severe canyon]

whats the speed like

[mental ridge]

depends on the skates

[severe canyon]

oh is it a skypad 4 variant

[mental ridge]

with jade donuts it stays realy fast with glasspad skates it gets slower than a raiden with jade donuts if i remember quickly

[severe canyon]

nbm

nvm

[mental ridge]

no its a kurson glasspad

limited edition

[severe canyon]

i dont want an anime girl on my pad

ill be honest

i aint freaky enough

[mental ridge]

i didnt get it for that actually everybody praised it for beeing the smoothest and yet controllable glasspad that sticks the least to the arm

and its so much smoother than a sp004

[severe canyon]

soounds cool, ill have a look at it

[mental ridge]

yeah its SOOO smooth but kinda abrasive so glasspad skates slow down alot once they wear in

with jade donuts i havent had that happen to me yet

idk jade Donuts are magical

they are like 3024 tech

[severe canyon]

how often do you replace your skates with galkss

glass

[mental ridge]

lmao like alot since i tried out alot of skates

i dont see myselfe replacing skates using donuts soon tho

[severe canyon]

ok cool

that was one of my ]worries with getting a glasspad

[mental ridge]

like depends on if u like the worn in feeling

[severe canyon]

yeah i suppose i do like it

[mental ridge]

if u dont want a floaty pad and dont mind some static friction the Kazemi is for you 100% if u want as low of static friction as possible go with a sp004

[severe canyon]

ok thanks for the advice

[mental ridge]

or get the Kazemi with jade donuts

thats smooth af but its a wierd pad ngl

texture of like 4000 grit sandpaper

[severe canyon]

lol

[mental ridge]

skypad realy feels so rough in comparison

[severe canyon]

i been using hayate otsu soft

so its gonna be quite a big transtition anyway

[mental ridge]

i mean the upside of owning a glasspad is that u got a surface to put your mid artisans on without them sliding arround

[iron cosmos]

Wait what is this

Is it still available

I need to know

[unborn token]

I paid 140 for my raiden

[iron cosmos]

Wtf

[unborn token]

Partially bc I didn't want to wait for them to get back in stock in eu

So I bought from Japan and got taxed 70 smth euros for import

In Greek custom's

Which I didn't give a fuck to pay

So the pad is still worth for it's actual price imo

[mental ridge]

oh god

[unborn token]

I mean I didn't care

Would I do it again

No

[mental ridge]

btw raiden mid 65€ on maxgaming.gg

available

[unborn token]

But 60-75 which is what they actually cost

Is still good value for what you end up getting

[unborn token]

Yeah you wanna know after how long

?

I got mine a year ago

It hasn't been in stock for a year

💀

Propably longer

[narrow swift]

not spending more than 50 for a pad ngl

[iron cosmos]

I got a clone for like 40 usd

[unborn token]

Thinking Abt getting aqua control +

[mental ridge]

75 for xxl

[unborn token]

What I think the guy is referring to btw

[iron cosmos]

Chuan yun (raiden clone)

[unborn token]

Are pads like the strider aqua control 2 and anything that's from the 20-30 euro range

And performs relatively the same as an artisan

[unborn token]

Looks sick as fuck

Can't lie

[iron cosmos]

It’s much nicer than my hien

And I don’t need a sleeve for it

Is around maybe 40 euros

I like artisans but the bottom is slippery and they don’t last long

[unborn token]

I do find that opinion to be hypocritical tho

Bc the same type of people spend 120-150 for a gpx

A mouse that is considerably outperformed by mice under 70 euros

And even less

And then their reasoning for gpx is

[mental ridge]

gpx is ancient tec

[unborn token]

" let people use what they want " / " it's safe shape "

[iron cosmos]

Logitech is so bad

[unborn token]

I used the Alienware mouse in the liquid booth at apex lan

[iron cosmos]

I agree that you should spend any amount for a nice product

[unborn token]

Talked w the designer

He was such a cool dude

I'd buy that mouse 100 times over a gpx

Honestly felt muuuch better

[mental ridge]

i mean the 1st gpx was all new and a trend setter now the gpx 2 is just lacking behind like logitech didnt notice they arent leading anymore

[iron cosmos]

I had 4 different Logitech mice, all had a double click issue

[unborn token]

Both gpx iterations are the same mouse

With 1 extra color variation

[mental ridge]

name?

[unborn token]

Name was never mentioned

But Its their latest thing

If u search that you'll end up finding iy

The shape was fine even tho id want a bigger hump smaller ish clicks and slightly inward tilt on sides

Good mouse tho

Solid

[iron cosmos]

I feel like Alienware is still somehow under appreciated

[mental ridge]

youre basically describing the maya x

[mental ridge]

even under 60 grams

even thats better than a gpx

[trim crest]

raiden apex goated

[wintry cypress]

Bro i buy from japan i pay like 70 total

Wtf they taxing u for in greece

Import of bad bitches?

[unborn token]

Greece taxes anything outside of it

Because we are loser third world dog country

With an economy worse than Venezuela when a bread loaf costed 2 years worth of salary

And partially because our government is more disfunctional than the relationship of a valorant e girl and e boy

Hope I answered your question @wintry cypress

[wintry cypress]

Ty brotha i hope things get better 😭

[unborn token]

NO THEY FUCKING WONT LMFAO

Anyone in their right mind pretty much leaves Greece once they are financially okay

Who tf wants to stay in this shithole

I know some complete freaks that do

Too bad for them in a couple of years cantlie

[wintry cypress]

One can always hope 🙏

[wintry cypress]

Its too bad tho the culture etc is fire

[unborn token]

If you dig into Greeks history

We've been complete apes since the beginning

So it's just a continuous decline

" the culture " is just the mask

Even tho I'm a proud Greek

Partially bc I have my freedom from badass mfs that fought the Turk scums in their late 40s

And everyone who died defending us from the persians

Otherwise I wouldn't be Greek cuh

ΖΗΤΩ Η ΕΛΛΆΣ 🗣️🇬🇷

[wintry cypress]

Amen to that

Im just aryan asf

Lmao

Got that northwestern eu blood

• some canadian

[craggy prairie]

mahiro really went
P
)
P

[pastel token]

how are you??????

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/owo-welcome-new-user-group-senko-gif-10329359818567227795