legit real tears
#apex
lapis moat
lapis moat
i cant believe it
vague nexus
remmember when i wrote this
ocean flame
so blessed fr
sinful thistle
i actually want to play apex now
lapis moat
rollers DO NOT queue up you WILL get turbostomped by mnk thanos
vague nexus
might cop the 20 buck battlepass, if the update is actually as goated
ocean flame
i think next season ranked is gonna be such a banger
lapis moat
i actually want to play apex now
nah its about to get crazy in like i’m just gonna win every fight now?
vague nexus
i wonder what hollow thinks about this
lapis moat
theres real tears rn
i cant believe they really proved me wrong
i’ll take whatever i can get i still kinda want some flinch but
whatever lets me roll controllers easier sure
frail kiln
tbh this patch is sick
vague nexus
next thing is visual clutter
they will remove visual clutter in season 23
im calling it
frail kiln
I realized Apex has hope when they added support for 8khz polling mice
someone in the dev team cares about us
vague nexus
they did?
frail kiln
ye
vague nexus
imma try it out
frail kiln
they moved mouse inputs to separate thread
sinful thistle
nah its about to get crazy in like i’m just gonna win every fight now?
HJAHAHAHAHA
vague nexus
got a 8k hz mouse like 2 days ago
lapis moat
nah legit impossible to lose for us
frail kiln
sinful thistle
can everyone please say good stuff when the patch drops
dont let the rollers complain drown it out
lapis moat
they just made reading easier and aiming actually possible
frail kiln
I'm changing my steam review no cap
sinful thistle
we need them to know this stuff is good
quaint karma
hello
lapis moat
i used to pray for times like this
vague nexus
mnk players on the path of revenge
lapis moat
dying to shit rollers on 250 ping for a whole year
vague nexus
i swear
quaint karma
and am hella rustz
vague nexus
if i wake up rn and its all a dream
quaint karma
its all worth it
🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
vague nexus
im gonna jump somwhere
narrow swift
im announcing mz return to mnk
🤝 welcome back
quaint karma
white flicker
sick pebble
lapis moat
light ammo mag buffs too apparently
they gotta rebuff r9
surely
cuz that shit could have 32 bullets and its still bad
frail kiln
Volt is legit
forest gazelle
whats in pool currently?
frail kiln
the most skilled SMG
vague nexus
mnk player rn
forest gazelle
i haven’t played a single game this season
lapis moat
uhhh they got kc rn
lapis moat
wait for ranked?
forest gazelle
yeah
lapis moat
yea bm oly we then
forest gazelle
https://tenor.com/view/unknown-audio-bobux-roblox-gang-gif-18710453
didn’t you move to controller
is it the Come back
woeful garnet
by aim flinch do they mean aim punch or something wlse
quaint karma
you can see what it is in the video
lapis moat
i legit used to pray for times like this
woeful garnet
Ok
forest gazelle
yea just watch the vid
woeful garnet
Doesnt removing aim punch benefit controller players
sinful thistle
they gotta rebuff r9
care pack
frail kiln
respawn giving me some spark in my piece of shit nothing iredeemable life 😭
vague nexus
all i care is about the shitters not being able to clip me
forest gazelle
Doesnt removing aim punch benefit controller players
it’s balanced really, it’ll make controller feel a bit smoother while making mnk a lot smoother
aim punch on controller was low before
forest gazelle
https://x.com/hypermystx/status/1819033287592960269?s=46&t=YgEf-6HRatFp33CnDRgSz...
fuck offff
lapis moat
could this be a legitimately good idea from respawn?
woeful garnet
Maybe r5r will be playable with no more aim punch …
forest gazelle
HAHAHA
narrow swift
Twitter
woeful garnet
it’s balanced really, it’ll make controller feel a bit smoother while making mnk...
Yeah but now its actually like tracking a range dummy
Controller is easier than ever
forest gazelle
the good players will still be good
lapis moat
fuck offff
this is actually not a bad idea no?
forest gazelle
but bad players will probably suffer
forest gazelle
this is actually not a bad idea no?
i think it’s a definitely an interesting one but im imagining the JP devo players using this in my head atm
sharp ice
huh did they nerf havoc or why volt season
frail kiln
volt allows for actual strafe aim and doki hates anyways 😒
lapis moat
i just like car more
forest gazelle
bring back gold barrel stab 😼
sharp ice
car
lapis moat
car when it wasnt shit is more fun than volt
narrow swift
i dont wanna complain rn tho
dont complain just bask in the greatness
sharp ice
lapis moat
Twitter
frail kiln
also with current hipfire values car r9 are so shit on mnk
lapis moat
oh my godddd
sinful thistle
in game
narrow swift
did u see the healthbar change
yeee
sharp ice
https://x.com/alphaintel/status/1819028988100051178?s=46&t=YgEf-6HRatFp33CnDRgSz...
no way
narrow swift
maybe r5 kovaaks and wasnt a total waste of time
white flicker
quaint karma
next youre telling me theyre gonna ban every cheater
white flicker
sorry but that is
narrow swift
frail kiln
next youre telling me theyre gonna ban every cheater
hideouts is still employed big bro..
sharp ice
so it only takes the game to die to get some decent changes?
forest gazelle
ye
lapis moat
plz dont let dual hammers be a thing
plz dont let dual hammers be a thing
plzplzplz
frail kiln
its gonna be a thing
lapis moat
i dont want to literally get 2 tapped
sharp ice
whats a dual hqmmer
sharp ice
hammerpoint?
frail kiln
DOKI KEKW
sharp ice
but why
frail kiln
akimbo should be a pubs thing
sharp ice
lmaoo gg
frail kiln
no way they're bringing that shit to ranked wtf
sharp ice
that sounds fun
untill you fce a tripple hammerpoint stack tbh
also isnt it maggie who has the mozam buff
forest gazelle
fight fire with fire.. it’s light work
frail kiln
wait so they actually added multiple visual clarity adjustments too
with the shields/health bar and red outline
woeful garnet
They should add aim punch for controller players
vague nexus
im about to splurge
narrow swift
the batteries blowup
white flicker
yeah
narrow swift
so like they get no hands
vague nexus
the lifeline skin looks fucking dope
white flicker
is that a lot to ask for?
frail kiln
its not
narrow swift
eh not really tbh
narrow swift
rev nerf?
frail kiln
RANGE IN QUEUE
narrow swift
woeful garnet
range in queue
Took them long enough
vague nexus
woeful garnet
Dont know why range in queue wasnt in from the beginning
narrow swift
4-3 linear ranked grinders mcdonalds looking real good
vague nexus
shut up
ocean flame
?
ocean flame
visual clarity is good but the health info why
vague nexus
visual clarity is good but the health info why
idk, i really like it in finals
ocean flame
i dont think theres any good reasoning behind the health info in a comp game with only 3 player teams
narrow swift
might be actually able to see what im shooting
vague nexus
i cant belive it
white flicker
might be actually able to see what im shooting
open your eyes 
narrow swift
white flicker
here to help man
frail kiln
I gotta wait until Monday for this shit 😭
narrow swift
season 22 gonna make me more motivated than ever 🗣️
craggy prairie
so glad that i stuck to MnK instead of swapping. even if it's just average aim it beats giving up on what i wanted for myself as a player
severe canyon
anyone know if theyre nerfing havoc again
severe canyon
damn
feel like more bullets off it wouldve been good aswell
better than nothing doe
frail kiln
they nerfed hemlok pretty hard
20-19 damage, increased time between bursts, smaller mag size
tight totem
where do u guys see thse
severe canyon
i watched dazs youtube video
wintry cypress
holy fucking shit
they really tryna pull this game out of the gutter if theyre finally making this change
that is fucking crazy
marsh sentinel
Nemi + Mastiff/ Volt meta?
vague nexus
nah, im grinding to get ready for the season to drop
tight totem
yes sir
elfin flint
Twitter
mental ridge
https://x.com/mokeysniper/status/1819077168057712652 😎
idk how to feel about that since it makes counting and calling out damage obsolete thus beeing low is more punishing since everybody can tell
tight totem
oh my lord kovaak patch
main merlin
so glad that i stuck to MnK instead of swapping. even if it's just average aim i...
I'll probably switch back if the nerf is good enough. I only got 200 hours of apex controller
elfin flint
idk how to feel about that since it makes counting and calling out damage obsole...
yeah i dont really like the hp bars, but the removal of aimpunch + outline/threat is good imo
mental ridge
so glad that i stuck to MnK instead of swapping. even if it's just average aim i...
i switched away from controller coz i wanted to be good myself
but ngl thinking more about it i belive apex might get revived by this HUGE quality of life improvement
next up new audio engine please
vague nexus
i like the healthbars on finals
and now apex will have em
i see a lot of people dont like it
i think its gonna be great
frail kiln
next up new audio engine please
they made some comment about this btw
there is some audio improvement in this Patch IIRC
mental ridge
there is some audio improvement in this Patch IIRC
yeah they always say it and then nothing changed
ever since they added obstruction its horrible
b4 loudness was based on distance now its based on distance and obstruction by walls but its so unreliable
just give us unobstructed 360° audio back
wintry cypress
Just give the source code to the r5 devs and let them create apex 2 and have them fix every problem
And they got 50 mill each
Then give the game back to respawn
Easy
bright slate
real
dull falcon
narrow swift
i think the only change i dislike is the hp indicator thing
severe canyon
How am I gonna keep my maths skills good if I don’t need to figure out how much hp someone is
narrow swift
feel like comp would turn into an apefest of egos
lusty vault
Is apex the play
dull falcon
How am I gonna keep my maths skills good if I don’t need to figure out how much ...
I crack shields i say 1hp
And bait my friend
young pine
i think the only change i dislike is the hp indicator thing
its one of those things that is very ugly aesthetically but can really help when theres alot of visual clutter
young pine
but ngl thinking more about it i belive apex might get revived by this HUGE qual...
they're doin the right things but cheaters, ranked, and sbmm still need to be adressed for them to be fully out of the woods
flat coral
is removing aimpunch really happening??? hearing rumours in twitch chat
wintry cypress
yes
visual bluff
AA nerf and aimpunch removed
severe canyon
God finally good
visual bluff
visual clutter improvements
mnk is SO BACK
roller will still be strong and top roller probably a little better then top mnk but it will be close
severe canyon
They buffed shotguns
visual bluff
idk if gibby is getting buffed but shotguns are getting changed
buffed: less pellets but they do more damage per pellet and the spread makes it more likely to land
visual bluff
we are so back
flat coral
shotgun buff is a gibby buff
I want to be bubble fighting like it's season 6
tryna be grappling in them hoes and tap strafing around with a shotgun
flat coral
yea but fuck newcastle
visual bluff
nah hes fun as fuck
bubble fighting while u can move the bubble
flat coral
nuh uh- can't sit on fools
severe canyon
Now they just need to half gibbys hitbox and give him a grapple
steep root
AA DEFENDERS IN HERE ARE FOAMING OUT THE MOUTH
dull falcon
Me i will defend it
young pine
gibby shield + lmg shield what are the numbers on that
visual bluff
do they stack?
young pine
i can only assume
dull falcon
Bro wtf is this enemy highlight shit theough visual clutter
Its fucking dumb
Just actually fix visual clutter
hybrid blade
dull falcon
https://youtu.be/QdTRy1XjggU
You sent this mid already bro
visual bluff
its .3 so top tier roller is still better then top tier mnk up close but by a much smaller amount
warped lake
so should i go back to mnk
warped lake
yeah i can't tell until i feel it
visual bluff
or u can try the r5 server with the AA changes and see how it feels
visual bluff
one of the 3 has .3 not .4 now
but they havent changed flinch or the other changes at all
its JUST the AA
warped lake
about to try it rn
true ravine
toxic magnet
it’s not going to be as big of a changer as you think
controller players will adapt to it
they adapted to .4 from .6
i don’t think this will change much at all
but the aim punch change is huge
dull falcon
Vid*
flat coral
Visual clutter fixes next hopefully
Aim punch and clutter are a bigger issue for mnk players than aa strength imo
Can't aim at what you can't see- and aa keeps on trucking straight through that shit, even at 0.3
woeful garnet
they need to add slight aim punch to controller players
like very tinted
tiny
so they atleast need to be good to aim
flat coral
No because that sort of fine control is very difficult on controller- it's why they have aim assist
Removing the barriers that hold skilled mnk players back like aim punch and visual clutter is the biggest step they can take imo
visual bluff
aim punch is just an anti skill mechanic shouldnt exist
besides the zone ticking kind that at least makes a little sense to me
like being in zone is bad and it harder to shoot in zone
make sense
trim crest
Aim punch on flesh makes sense ( give an advantage to the player that cracks the other first ). In practice it just feels like trash and is unnecessary. It's one of those trash FPS features that keeps getting added out of tradition and due to other bad design choices.
dull falcon
aim punch is just an anti skill mechanic shouldnt exist
besides the zone tickin...
In real life there is aim punch
stray valley
There's also fall damage 🙃
trim crest
Visual clutter fixes next hopefully
The visual clutter in this game is fucking unreal. Not even just the VFX of shooting, getting hit, etc but all the POI's on screen (name tags of teammates, ping locations, etc) are so annoying.
bright slate
every game needs to be like krunker where you can just turn that shit off
mental ridge
they adapted to .4 from .6
well the closer it gets to 0 the bigger the change
u know since at some point its gonna not extend the reactiontime window past your reaction time anymore
mental ridge
but the aim punch change is huge
its a indirect nerf of aimassist since they experienced aimpunch less due to aimassist beeing calculated after aimpunch thus them basically having 40% less aimpunch
same with outlines and healthbars now we all can see better where the enemiebis thus aimassist tracking barely seeable things is less of a thing
i mean a increased reaction time window reduction from 1.67x to 1.43x will make alot of mid playersbfall off more especially since its combined with 25% less input smoothing
they gotta be more precise now AND faster with reactions
thry dont have a as big advantage due to visual clutter and we all have no aimpunch
mental ridge
and i heard something about epic and apex working together some guess it might be a server collaboration
vast oak
interesting
mental ridge
this aimassist nerf and the visual clutter aimpunch changes should bring back old players and possibly attract new players
vast oak
might bring me back xD
candid mist
In real life there is aim punch
😭🙏
mental ridge
duos where
wait another 5 years
warped lake
@dull falcon
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE UR MSG IN R5
i was watching my vod back i was tabbed out
dull falcon
u good
dull falcon
<a:DANCE:757553310763843645>
i cant wait till u find out .3 still means u gonna get rollered
forest gazelle
nah man voltaic platinum wipe the floor with .3 doggy’s
narrow swift
inshallah
quaint karma
well the closer it gets to 0 the bigger the change
u know since at some point it...
it doesn’t really do this unless you’re really close tbh
at least not perceptibly
you could sorta make it aim for you if you strafed a certain way and knew how to not move your crosshair off target at range
but that was a skill to be learned
obviously mnk doesn’t have that
but yeah less so now on .3
mental ridge
it doesn’t really do this unless you’re really close tbh
it does increase the window to react im not talking about making anything aim for you im only talking about staying on target longer and smoothing out slightly missmatched inputs
mental ridge
i cant wait till u find out .3 still means u gonna get rollered
im talking about other mnk players comming back
devout tusk
this aimassist nerf and the visual clutter aimpunch changes should bring back ol...
Its way too late lol
2 years late
3
mental ridge
Its way too late lol
idk actually
might make bigger waves now tho
like game beeing revived
dull falcon
thats the point catcch and release
bright slate
it didnt need to die in the first place lol
devout tusk
You might get a few come back but most of my friends just moved on
People said the same shit about ow2 bringing players back lol
mental ridge
You might get a few come back but most of my friends just moved on
how u know if they see the game actually beeing revived they might give it another chance
devout tusk
It never works
Ive been playing games 4 ever bro shit never actually works, people just move on
This shit is waaaay too late
Cause like say they quit in season 8 or something, theyre 3 years behind now too
And the principle of devs just ignoring the issue forever until the game is dying and r5 released stats, its just to save face and try to save the sinking ship, u know they dont actually care about the issue
The timing is pretty funny since theyve been "looking into it" "its rly complicated" for years buth then they magically change it 1 month after the r5 stats got posted
young pine
I think it will bring players back for the simple fact that theres really nothing fresh on the market that people are hard attached to
specially in the BR space
i don't think it will be a massive amount tho no
mental ridge
i don't think it will be a massive amount tho no
if they keep up tge good work and fix audio aswell maybe even touch visual clutter instead of just helping us see through it and fix ranked instead of making it another free master season then maybe apex will grow again
bright slate
we need the realm royale comeback
trim crest
we need the realm royale comeback
can't believe I'm hearing this name
That game was actually fun when it first came out. They fucking patched it to be completely different every day and it turned to shit after a week or two.
woeful garnet
Do you guys crouch with shift
mental ridge
Do you guys crouch with shift
yes
tight totem
na
ocean flame
I hope the new map isnt too laggy
mental ridge
I hope the new map isnt too laggy
get a nasa pc
native nimbus
Voltaic servers gonna get 0.3AA soon?
toxic magnet
shift on crouch just feels like a crime
control is just underneath it and just as easy to press
Shift should be what switches your optic on a variable scope 🤝
quaint karma
it does increase the window to react im not talking about making anything aim fo...
it barely does this at range
it’s basically just like mnk
maybe if you recorded it and slowed down the footage you’d see it be on target the slightest bit longer
at least if there’s big direction changes and not AD spam
tight totem
how do you peek door
oh
yea i just realized that
as soon as i asked the question i was able to visualize it
something with shotgun fights and autosprint tho sometimes it fucks me up
mental ridge
it’s basically just like mnk
nah i disagree closerange its the most impactfull due to evej without aimassist u have long times on target
flat coral
and i heard something about epic and apex working together some guess it might b...
I would have hoped it was work on easy anticheat
but better servers also important
mental ridge
but better servers also important
i heard that apparently apex and epic is somehow planning on working together
maybe theyll host the apex servers?
amd have apex in their store?
flat coral
that would be good- easy anticheat is an epic product though so I would hope it's related to that
mental ridge
that would be good- easy anticheat is an epic product though so I would hope it'...
maybe all 3
more new players through epic
better server through epic
better anticheat utilization through epic
fossil field
They are most likely just bringing it to the game store to get some new players in
flat coral
would be disappointing
quaint karma
nah i disagree closerange its the most impactfull due to evej without aimassist ...
long times on target without aim assist?
the only real difference is close range which is significantly easier
everything else, for almost every player, mnk is superior
the bubble gets way too small at any meaningful distance for mnk not to be able to keep up
it’s like i said
but then again i’m speaking from the experience of someone who has peak mechanics on both inputs
i can’t speak to your own experience
maybe you do remain on target longer even at range
for me it feels the same
they walk out of the AA bubble and the AA can’t correct for it at range
unless they strafe a very specific way
obviously small strafes the AA will track for you unless you manually override its inputs
why does it do this? because controller cannot be as precise as mnk
especially for the vast majority of players
all of this is lessened anyways with .3
and if AA scaled with distance we wouldn’t need to have this discussion anyways
vast oak
mental ridge
why does it do this? because controller cannot be as precise as mnk
it can get way closer to mnk if they ever think about improving how stickinput gets used
just introduce a absolut zone that can replace a deadzone it uses stick movement to movve the camera instead of stick tilt and converting that into turn rates
mental ridge
maybe if you recorded it and slowed down the footage you’d see it be on target t...
and no aimassist doesn't care about range yes the bubble is smaller but it keeps u longer on target by the same factor
quaint karma
i disagree
your crosshair falls out of the bubble immediately because the bubble is so small
vast oak
i thought this was just a fact that 💀 how are we arguing about this
quaint karma
idk man
quite frankly i have higher scores on controller kovaaks no aim assist than he does on mnk
so i’m not sure why i’m being told how things work
surely i know
no?
quaint karma
but then again
mental ridge
your crosshair falls out of the bubble immediately because the bubble is so smal...
depends on what u define as range
mental ridge
i remember alot of times where i had "stuttery" beams at range like when i make slight missinputs and aimassist catches me but once u missinput to hard yeah u just get off to quickly for the slight reduction to make a difference
quaint karma
let’s just say the closer you get to a target the more what you said is true
mental ridge
i played on response curves tge vast majority of the time wich gives more room for error regarding fine inputs
quaint karma
the range where a 2x is ideal this is absolutely not true unless they strafe a very specific way
well yes, it’s like playing with a deadzone
your own bad inputs cannot override the AA
but if they do any strafe that gets them out of the bubble you will absolutely have to manually correct
mental ridge
well yes, it’s like playing with a deadzone
without the disadvantage of a deadzone but 10 / classic responsecurve is so dead in the center its basically a deadzone i realy liked 7 responsecurve on higher senses due to it still allowing micro adjustments with realy fine inputs
mental ridge
but if they do any strafe that gets them out of the bubble you will absolutely h...
i reading that makes me guessbif u might missunderstand me
im talking about longer time frames to react not aimassist completely overriding any mistakes
quaint karma
no i know what you mean but the bubble is so small at range it doesn’t matter that it could keep you on target longer
mental ridge
like if on mnk ud had 100ms to react to your now wrong input on strafe direction change 0.4 makes it 1.67 ms
mental ridge
at any range obviously
yes the smaller the hitbox the lessbof a missinput is fatal
to me you sound like your have good reactiveness on controller but regarding super fine inputs youre not that sensetive yet
mental ridge
i have higher acc on r5 than any pro you can name other than koyful
r5 barely ever has range situations its mostly closerange to midrange tho
quaint karma
yeah but there’s no way to compare myself
ocean flame
like if on mnk ud had 100ms to react to your now wrong input on strafe direction...
Where does this 1.67 number keep coming from
mental ridge
Where does this 1.67 number keep coming from
i did some calculations regarding vectors
ocean flame
Sounds dubious
mental ridge
Sounds dubious
nah its absolutely right if u wanna listen i can explain
ocean flame
Surely youve explained before that you can just link to?
mental ridge
Surely youve explained before that you can just link to?
i dont think so
mental ridge
i simplified the whole situation
to track a enemie u gotta turn 100 pixels per second
no acceleration or deceleration
hitbox is 400 pixel wide so if youre dead center its 200 pixels to get of the hitbox
u turn 100pps left
enemie changes strafe direction into the opposite direction
mnk is of target in 1 second
controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
because his input is 100 to the left
but aimassist does -100 to the left (100 to the right)
controller input is a ratio between aimassist input and human input
rotational aimassist is basically the aimbot input
the slowdown results from slowing down player input so together aimbot and perfect human input are the same as they are alone
thus
in the scenario if u turn 100 and aimassist turns -100 they get added together at the ratio 0.6 human input and and 0.4 aimbot
thus 100x0.6+(-100)x0.4=60-40=20
then u add camera speed and target speed together
20+(-100)=80
then u calculate how long it takes for the point of aim to get off the hitbox tge distance is 200 pixels
so its 200/120=1/0.6=1.6667
on mnk its 100+100=200 (camera speed + target speed)
so its 200/200=1/1=1
console aimassist is 1/0.4=2.5
mental ridge
<@182610108386246656> 0.3 means it pulls slower right
yes
the bubble is independent of the ratio aimbot replaces your aim inputs
quaint karma
<@182610108386246656> 0.3 means it pulls slower right
yes
lapis moat
i simplified the whole situation
to track a enemie u gotta turn 100 pixels per s...
no flame but none of this makes any sense
mental ridge
no flame but none of this makes any sense
it makes 100% sense maybe i just didnt explain it good enought
lapis moat
no theres maybe 5 assumptions just in that calculation that isnt backed up by anything and that's not even getting into the calculations themselves
misses a bunch of variables too
mental ridge
misses a bunch of variables too
what variable
mental ridge
no theres maybe 5 assumptions just in that calculation that isnt backed up by an...
what assumption?
1 aimassist is pure aimbot as we know from r5
u dont need to tilt your stick more or less to track the same speed without or with aimassist
the slowdown of aimassist is the same strength as rotational aimassist
1 aimassist just locks your point of aim perfectly onto the point of the hitbox u aim at
lapis moat
controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
not substantiated with anything just Vibes
but aimassist does -100 to the left (100 to the right)
not how AA works, doesn't pull that hard, ignores accel too which was assumed but is too big in apex to simply ignore, this also ignores all possible reading when it comes to parsing player movement (kovaakscel take)
controller input is a ratio between aimassist input and human input
no, rotational AA is just how fast it pulls relative to player speed, 1.0 = full aimbot, what does this sentence mean
in the scenario if u turn 100 and aimassist turns -100 they get added together at the ratio 0.6 human input and and 0.4 aimbot thus 100x0.6+(-100)x0.4=60-40=20
???????????????????????????????
forest gazelle
i simplified the whole situation
to track a enemie u gotta turn 100 pixels per s...
looks like we got apex channel version of this schizopost
lapis moat
fdsdfsdsfdsf
mental ridge
> controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
not substantiated with anythin...
the same way acceleration increases or decreases the reactiontime window for controller it decreases or increases the reactiontime window for mnk
vast oak
👁️
lapis moat
no cuz assuming you are on target to begin with AA would make it so you also slow down as you slowly drift off target from accel so u get a head start?
mental ridge
> controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
not substantiated with anythin...
i feel like u dont understand how aimassist works
lapis moat
and similarly this also gives way more time for mnk to react to
like if u play mnk and that's how you approach fights any AD spam would instantly vaporize your brain
mental ridge
aimassist is extremely simple in how it works
it slows down your input to 60% in the aimassist bubble and adds 40% pure aimbot
mental ridge
> controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
not substantiated with anythin...
my scenario ignores acceleration not aimassist
in a Ingame situation obviously aimassist factors in acceleration
its just unnecessary to calculate with acceleration in a theoretically scenario thats meant to proof the ratio between reactiontime windows between playing with aimassist and without
mental ridge
> controller with 0.4 is off within 1.666666 secs
not substantiated with anythin...
if you turn 100 pps to the left and the hitbox moves 100 pps to the right from its original position both speeds add up and u precive your crosshair going 200pps away from the target
its all just math with vectors
the same way u calculate speeds in physics
narrow swift
holy yappage
forest gazelle
man ur brain is fried
lapis moat
aimassist is extremely simple in how it works
it slows down your input to 60% in...
@quaint karma @next latch come vouch
narrow swift
i simplified the whole situation
to track a enemie u gotta turn 100 pixels per s...
can somebody pin this
sinful thistle
wtf am i reading
mental ridge
somebody does math :
"yappage"
"your brain is fried"
"wtf am i reading"
forest gazelle
Hahahah
vast oak
naw we just watching bruh
next latch
<@182610108386246656> <@585065618051432460> come vouch
i need to read all of this holy yap first 1 sec
vast oak
i just question what knowing any of this info matters
mental ridge
i just question what knowing any of this info matters
it doesnt realy unless u wanna balance aimassist
during my apprenticeship i had some mundane tasks and i had fun figuring this out during those tasks (like 4 years ago or so)
vast oak
ic ic
mental ridge
i wish i knew how to animate it
im certain a visual display of my scenario would make it way easier to understand
forest gazelle
no you must study the aim assist manifesto instead of shooting ur gun
lapis moat
Who up to watch EWC
merry plaza
wait its on?
next latch
Who up to watch EWC
when does tsm play : D
lapis moat
in 2 hours
or 3
im probably gonna watch a few and go to bed cuz 10 games is just impossible to watch at 2am
mental ridge
ngl all those reactions make me feel like yall hated math and physics classes lmao
next latch
im probably gonna watch a few and go to bed cuz 10 games is just impossible to w...
passion is not lookin gud O_O (i slept after game 3 yesterday)
lapis moat
passion is not lookin gud O_O (i slept after game 3 yesterday)
watched 0 games yesterday im slowly watching nicewiggs vod
next latch
the apac n enthusiast himself
narrow swift
twisted minds 🗣️
lapis moat
strafinggoat gaps this fraud zer0 any day
next latch
twisted minds 🗣️
weibo gaming clears peakgod gaps koy frfr
narrow swift
kinda rooting for moist to do well today
next latch
Who up to watch EWC
you gonna stream it?
next latch
oka
sinful thistle
kinda rooting for moist to do well today
gentle dagger
prolly not
when does it start?
lapis moat
https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-reaction-emoji-nops-gif-1565718055515242396...
whats the beef
narrow swift
https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-reaction-emoji-nops-gif-1565718055515242396...
or exo CAUGHT
but slayer kinda brainless
lapis moat
i said the game plays for him
oh wxltzy? yea hes like weird about aa lol
might be the only t1 roller thats weird about it
every other t1 roller is like yea good luck on mnk rofl
lapis moat
i think he legit thinks you SHOULD switch if ur playing comp
and if ur playing mnk in comp its legit ur fault
sinful thistle
he needs to be hit with a brick
lapis moat
he needs to be hit with a brick
wouldnt do shit to him have you seen him
lapis moat
deadass?
sinful thistle
how tall is he
narrow swift
mf really is built
lapis moat
i dont go to the gym ever but +rep to him
narrow swift
him and clutch do look kinda similar
narrow swift
man the production quality of ewc really good
frail kiln
He has the most braindead perspective on aim assist ye
narrow swift
oil money be doing wonders
frail kiln
Waltzy seems chill otherwise
dull falcon
Played rank yesterday no cheaters get into a diamond lobby cheater and we almost beat them like but they had a a lifeline it dead ass was a cheater and 2 fucking roller drones who couldn't shoot
dull falcon
I got my main acc to diamond like 2 days ago and was playing w my friend he was like 2 ranks behind me buy i realized i couldt get him to diamond if we werent in plat lobbies
Like blatant wall hackers and aim botters
I mass reported the guy
Spam*
arctic violet
somebody does math :
"yappage"
"your brain is fried"
"wtf am i reading"
avg discord interaction, ur hurting their tiktok brain😂
severe canyon
The first mistake was tryna have an intelligent conversation on a public discord server my boy
ocean flame
that math was pure bogus
mental ridge
that math was pure bogus
its not
it might have been not labled as nicely but im realy certain i made 0 mistakes
elfin flint
it might have been not labled as nicely but im realy certain i made 0 mistakes
AA works by giving you a fractional rotational aimbot (0.4 = 40% of player's movement) and is activated while you stay within the AA bubble. it's trivial to stay within the AA bubble so there's no such thing as a reaction time window as long as you're actively tracking the target
lusty vault
Gm
main merlin
With AA nerf will 4 3 linear still be the go to scens
mental ridge
AA works by giving you a fractional rotational aimbot (0.4 = 40% of player's mov...
u dont get my point
u have a biggwr reaction time window to correct your wrong inputs and stay on target
yes the aa bubble extends past hitboxes but that only makes matters worse coz u stay close the hitbox for even longer
like if you gonna be off coz u havent corrected your inputs yet on mnk you are still on the target with controller and its obviously easier to aim smoothly aginst consistent moving targets aka long strafes for example
mental ridge
AA works by giving you a fractional rotational aimbot (0.4 = 40% of player's mov...
there is always a reaction time window to react to direction changes on controller and mnk its the time frame the enemie is moving a different direction than your inputs but your crosshair is still on target coz the hitbox isnt infinitely thin
severe canyon
Why are you even bothering my boy
mental ridge
Why are you even bothering my boy
im bored
severe canyon
Your responses are so long the average human being would you just collapse on the spot
narrow swift
go for a walk👍
mental ridge
Your responses are so long the average human being would you just collapse on th...
its a cruel world we are living in
beeing smart is a nerf in several ways
severe canyon
egoism be like
merry plaza
beeing smart is a nerf in several ways
asdDFasfddawsfdsf
elfin flint
like if you gonna be off coz u havent corrected your inputs yet on mnk you are s...
idk if you've played on roller. rotational aa makes everything way easier to track because it effectively increases the hitbox size by undertracking for you.
dull falcon
Reading movement comes so much easier as well.
dull falcon
Your responses are so long the average human being would you just collapse on th...
Low attention span tiktok user
frail abyss
idk if you've played on roller. rotational aa makes everything way easier to tra...
thats what the math he posted initially says lol
but the math isn't correct, i'm pretty sure aim assist is not a ratio between human input and aimbot input
because if that was the case, you wouldn't be able to move your crosshair out of the aim assist bubble ever on 1.0 aim assist
but that isn't the case, you can do that
so it's more complicated than 0.6x human input + 0.4x aimbot
bad assumptions being made
quaint karma
but that isn't the case, you can do that
it just adds to your input
it applies the slowdown and then adds to your input
frail abyss
Yeah
quaint karma
you can try 1.0
frail abyss
I know
frail abyss
Ye I remember seeing videos of 1.0 being tested, it looks goofy af
quaint karma
i tried it the other day cuz i wanted to see if i could make .3 work
so i just needed easy confirmation whether changing the value actually does something in flowstate
which yeah it doess
does
wintry cypress
Ye I remember seeing videos of 1.0 being tested, it looks goofy af
Thats shit was literally aimbot it looked insane
97% assisted aim or some shit
surreal bough
Will .3 AA nef make that much of a difference?
craggy prairie
yes! (no)
mental ridge
so it's more complicated than 0.6x human input + 0.4x aimbot
well the slowdown on retail console apex is notably stronger than with pc aimassist
thats what my assumption is based on
i watched a 1 yhear old video it looks like he only increased the magnet strenght but not the slowdown
atleast in retail apex aimassist slowdown is proportional to factor in that if u track perfectly youwill have to tilt your stick as much with and without aimassist to beam
yeah i set the aimassist magnet to 0 and still have a slowdown
it was wierd as if im fighting to get onto the hitbox
its not like turning aimassist of
im asuming that something went wrong with how aimassist gets manipulated in r5reloaded
mental ridge
since one can only manipulate rotational aimassist and not the slowdown wich is obviously doable if ud just look at console apex and compare pc and console aimassist there
ocean flame
Will .3 AA nef make that much of a difference?
i think having no flinch and better visual clarity will advantage mnk more than the 0.4->0.3
frail kiln
hard not to argue its not equally a buff for roller too
wintry cypress
but it's like a half-step
as per usual with respawn entertainment
makes a change but its half assed or poorly executed
ocean flame
hard not to argue its not equally a buff for roller too
flinch and visual clarity are nowhere near as much an issue on controller as on mnk
they were holding mnk back far more than they held controllers back
mental ridge
yes on controller its not as impactfull coz guessing a bit will still allow u to beam on mnk guessing a bit is far less viable
mental ridge
im asuming that something went wrong with how aimassist gets manipulated in r5re...
that might also deem all the r5 reloaded aimassist try outs unrepresentative of actual aimassist valur changes due to the slowdown staying 0.4 slowdown thus having 0.4 slowdown with 0.2 magnet is obviously way more playable than 0.2 slowdown with 0.2 magnet
even with 0 magnet but aimassist turned on it was way more playable than having aimassist actually turned of
craggy prairie
devout tusk
because if that was the case, you wouldn't be able to move your crosshair out of...
have people tested like on vs off, needing to only move the stick 60% as much
or rather move the stick so its rotating to 60% the speed of the target
severe canyon
Low attention span tiktok user
I’ve never even been near a tinktonk
mental ridge
have people tested like on vs off, needing to only move the stick 60% as much
he just assumes r5 reloaded is a perfect copy of apex without any flaws
severe canyon
Yeah
mental ridge
Can I self promo here?
only if itsgood
mental ridge
else ban
severe canyon
Lurches oml
wicked holly
only if itsgood
It’s ok
devout tusk
how is it still quads
severe canyon
craggy prairie
time to play some apex
vast oak
first mistake has been made
severe canyon
It’s never a mistake, I willingly choose to play this game, willingly choose to half my braincells every instance, willingly destined myself for a padded cell
We’re not the same
craggy prairie
craggy prairie
quaint karma
im asuming that something went wrong with how aimassist gets manipulated in r5re...
something went wrong? it’s retail apex s3
quaint karma
he just assumes r5 reloaded is a perfect copy of apex without any flaws
it’s not a copy lmao it IS apex
😭
no one went and reverse engineered apex files
this is literally just an earlier leaked build
unless you mean to tell me aim assist worked differently in s3
i find that hard to believe considering how much they do not wanna fuck with the AA implementation
they were all like ‘yeah lol it’s hard adjusting shit, can’t just change the value bro’
what do they do? lower the value
craggy prairie
thorny sequoia
Does anyone know if launching on epic required them to have certain accessibility settings? (Recon highlight, friendly abilities properly coloured, health bars, battle sense)
The past couple of year of apex I struggle to remember such cohesive set of changes and it really feels like they are following a set of guidelines (perk system was well done though imo)
Guess I just wonder if these changes happen if they don't make the deal with epic. Maybe just the AA nerf does 
frail kiln
I suspect a lot of these changes were spurred on by their meetings with Epic
dull falcon
what do they do? lower the value
Nosh i need help bro
craggy prairie
indigo ruin
New season when?
visual bluff
tuesday i believe
indigo ruin
tuesday i believe
dull falcon
Apex audio is miles ahead of everything
Ngl
I played cod that shit was ass
Valorant audio it dont even matter mofos just corner camp and hold angles
ocean flame
Apex audio is miles ahead of everything
Fr
Crazy how pinpoint apex audio is most of the time
Its like wallhacks
solar lichen
any of yall use iems for apex?
ive been tryna save up for one idk which one to get but im bankin up $200
frail kiln
ive been tryna save up for one idk which one to get but im bankin up $200
I got crinacle dusk blessing
Ive used abunch now though
iems goated
solar lichen
iems goated
ye i gotta start using em
solar lichen
I got crinacle dusk blessing
how are they for music n gaming
solar lichen
ion want anything special necessarily as long as it has precise positioning and good clarity its a buy for me
frail kiln
theres so many good chifi options
I liked KZ ZS10 or whatever they're called those were good entry level
moondrop zeros were good too
dull falcon
i could only get gold 3 today <:MahiroNooo:1003464648726679682>
oof good luck bro
trim crest
ive been tryna save up for one idk which one to get but im bankin up $200
Not being able to hear your own voice is a big 👎
solar lichen
Not being able to hear your own voice is a big 👎
ive used closed back for the longest time
hearing my own voice is also annoying, ive used open back for some time aswell lol
solar lichen
i could only get gold 3 today <:MahiroNooo:1003464648726679682>
how long did it take
young pine
"Queue times are being increased to group lobbies together more based on skill level, potentially leading to more fair matches"
mental ridge
something went wrong? it’s retail apex s3
true theey just went to respawn and were like 1 copy of apex please with a coding manual and respawn gave them tipps
aimassist NEEDS to have a slowwdown proportional to the strenght auf aimbot because else you dont have natural inputs its essential that u dont need to tilt your stick differently without aimassist and with aimassist to track the same speeds
just compare console 0.6 slowdown to 0.6br5 slowdown
sinful thistle
true theey just went to respawn and were like 1 copy of apex please with a codin...
what do u think r5 is?
mental ridge
what do u think r5 is?
its c cracked version of apex where hobbiests tried to get as much access to apex code as they can
there is no manual
for apex
visual bluff
its c cracked version of apex where hobbiests tried to get as much access to ape...
there was a leak at respawn and s3 apex code was released as part of that leak/hack i dont remember exactly what it was
do you think they just copied apex somehow manually
mental ridge
all they figured out is by trying and reverse engendering the copy of apex they cracked
visual bluff
r5 IS season 3 apex
mental ridge
there was a leak at respawn and s3 apex code was released as part of that leak/h...
there still is no manual for it
sinful thistle
there still is no manual for it
okay
and now what do you think
reverse engineering is
visual bluff
also code has comments in it
mental ridge
reverse engineering is
u literally look at the code u have and u try to figure out what it does
sinful thistle
ye
and if u have the 1/1 code
what makes it different
all ur doing
is figuring out what stuff does
which they did
they didnt change anything about the game lol
mental ridge
they didnt change anything about the game lol
yes and my point is they didnt fully figure out aimassist code
mental ridge
they found tge rotational aimassist and were content
sinful thistle
you have no idea how any of this works
mental ridge
from the game
the way u Manipulate aimassist in r5reloaded is only by changing the rotational aimassist value
there is no way to change the slowdown
sinful thistle
changing the value changes the slow down
mental ridge
changing the value changes the slow down
no it doesn't
mental ridge
setting it to 0 has the same slowdown than setting it to 1
visual bluff
wolf ur just wrong on this one
mental ridge
do u want me to launch a server and show you?
i did it myself yesterday
mental ridge
wolf ur just wrong on this one
im not
narrow swift
mental ridge
okay hop on r5
yes u hop on r5 change the aimassist magnet value change it to 1 and u realise u dont have to track anymore
u set it to 0 and u try to track and u realise that u basically always undertrack hard coz there is still slowdown
sinful thistle
hm, you are actually right about the slowdown
but the aa value is directly linked to
pull speed
also
this is definitely not
different to main game
unless they changed it
like nosh said
which theres no way they would of
i think calling that under tracking tho is misleading
it's still the aa actually doing the tracking
u could do the same thing lowering your sens with a bind on mnk
mental ridge
pull speed
pullspeed is only the aimbot inputs that get overlayed over your own inputs
mental ridge
i think calling that under tracking tho is misleading
yes but the effect is that its suoer easy to undertrack
sinful thistle
i think it's more of an advantage in situations where you need to flick to an opponent
mental ridge
different to main game
i mean may it be that in the main game they set the slowdown value in like titanfall 2 and ever since then they forgot about this value or its hard coded i to aimassist and the original dude has left respawn a long time ago and thus nobody knows how to change it?
sinful thistle
i doubt they are that dysfunctional
mental ridge
u could do the same thing lowering your sens with a bind on mnk
yes have a maco that lowers your dpi when ever you are on target
forest dove
what aim routine should I use for apex if I already have some basics? Like what is the recommended one (I have 60 minutes per day to practice)
sinful thistle
but it's probably not an easy change
sinful thistle
what aim routine should I use for apex if I already have some basics? Like what ...
what basics do u have
forest dove
what basics do u have
tracking, flicking, switching
because I've played valorant, overwatch, and cs2 before
forest dove
trasnsitioning to apex
sinful thistle
or level of skill
forest dove
noo
mental ridge
i doubt they are that dysfunctional
i mean they couldn't nerf tabstrafing propperly nor could they patch out superglides and superjumps all stuff thats hardcoded into the game
forest dove
like
basic level of skill
I don't think im extraordinary
but yea i wanna know what routine I should use
sinful thistle
those are core skills so they will still be the most important to train
mental ridge
basic level of skill
i think he talks about voltaic benchmarks
forest dove
especially since there are like 6 routines
sinful thistle
generic playlists aren't amazing
sinful thistle
watch a vod and try to look at what sort of aiming you do in the game then search kovaaks for scenarios that somewhat represent that
mental ridge
but what voltaic routine should I use for apex as an intermediate
are u intermediate ?
sinful thistle
add some general tracking scenarios that you feel help you with moving your mouse
forest dove
I'm not sure about my skil level bc
sinful thistle
do that for 15-30 mins a day
forest dove
I haven't tried a benchmark
forest dove
add some general tracking scenarios that you feel help you with moving your mous...
I see
mental ridge
I haven't tried a benchmark
maybe u should if u wanna k ow what youre weaknesses are
mental ridge
@forest dove just do aimlabs season 3
and see wich scores are outliers and what u are already good at
severe canyon
Just think about what you struggle with. You’ll most likely want to work on smoothness, reactivity, underaiming. Not sure of any good playlists or anything but you might b able to look for some
You don’t need static clicking for apex
mental ridge
You don’t need static clicking for apex
i mean its nice to have good static clicking coz closerange with a wingman is basically static clicking
especially if u controll your strafe
mental ridge
idk if its bad but i just do 1 fast flick and pray it lands with the wingman
it lands quiet alot
its like that dynamic clicking technique matty coverd in a video where he said tze dude plays like the targets are unpredictable
@severe canyon the funny part about apex and controller is that as far as i can tell they just copy pasted the controller input engine from titanfall 2 i never played titanfall 1 but maybe they even copied it from there
vague nexus
every dynamic clicking scenario is a static scenario if you are fast enough
mental ridge
every dynamic clicking scenario is a static scenario if you are fast enough
ye
and apex has slow acceleration
ngl i should grind static more
vague nexus
i started doing that
cause i stopped for a while and i noticed that clicking guns are getting a liittle hard to use
it also helps with target acquisition
unborn token
@mental ridgedo smoothbot
next latch
frfr
unborn token
@mental ridgethat math makes no sense
youd have to account for so many other things
severe canyon
i have never spent so many crafting materials at once before
Why do you have every skin, you might be single-handedly keeping respawn afloat
forest gazelle
Why do you have every skin, you might be single-handedly keeping respawn afloat
he doesn't, limited skins dont show up in the number
theres like 80 havoc skins
toxic magnet
i don’t
severe canyon
i aint fisting that bro
mental ridge
youd have to account for so many other things
no there are variables that get are equal between mnk and controller (like they are affected by the factor i calculated) like how long u stay on target coz of acceleration and deceleration its affected by the factor of 1.67
unborn token
i dont think these calculations are any good
its like the mr beast investigation wherethey found themselves to be innocent
mental ridge
its like the mr beast investigation wherethey found themselves to be innocent
I dont understand what you mean
it has nothing todo with any kind of drama its pure math and physics
severe canyon
mr breast approves
mental ridge
bruh i see yall never payed any attention in math and physics classes past addition and subtraction
mental ridge
you gotta chill
no im triggerd
fossil field
sir this is apex legends
mental ridge
sir this is apex legends
this is simple middleschool math
severe canyon
No fuck you brunph I’m switching up
He right
What you can’t understand aim assist math
fossil field
fuck you then
severe canyon
Yeah I will
fossil field
im taking aim assist 101 class in school
severe canyon
main merlin
I forgot how fun mnk is
main merlin
I was probably fried but I actually played some pubs on the infererior input again. its fun to have movement instead of aimbot
mental ridge
im taking aim assist 101 class in school
lisa and tom go home after a party at lucas
they both travel west
lisa walks with the speed of 2 meter per second and tom is riding a motorcycle at the speed of 10 meter per second when are they 200 meters appart
forest gazelle
I was probably fried but I actually played some pubs on the infererior input aga...
controller is just mad boring lol i agree