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sinful thistle
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also bad players exist

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and handicap exists

narrow swift
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okay, ill see if i can give it a try over the weekend

sinful thistle
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the only problem i see is your net since you warp a bit in apex

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quake players hate warpers but u might be fine

narrow swift
sinful thistle
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i used to have it when i was on wifi

narrow swift
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ye im still on wifi atm, i was thinking abt getting those uh powerline adapters but dunno if they are actually good

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having to use a shitty adapter

sinful thistle
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depends on the wiring in the house i think

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mine was shite

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but better than wifi maybe

bright mirage
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Newer your house/electrical wiring the better it'll be

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Same boat ๐Ÿฅฒ

craggy prairie
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is this the secret sauce

narrow swift
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oh bro my house is old

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but ill just buy one that lets me return it

bright mirage
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Give them a try tho, mine are better than wifi for sure

narrow swift
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ye ye

bright mirage
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

narrow swift
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also ye, which quake is the one i should do?

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live?

sinful thistle
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live is what u probably want

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but champs uht is really good mechanics practice

narrow swift
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whats uht?

sinful thistle
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the three main guns

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unlimited ammo

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lg rocket rail

narrow swift
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ohhh

sinful thistle
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ffa

unborn token
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1x iron is diff

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fov

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and is 1.1

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translation or smth

sharp ice
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why are the r5 ppl on vt servers so cringe

narrow swift
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OMEGALUL he finally discovered the specimen that is known as eu players

unborn token
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yeah they aint real

mental ridge
mental ridge
narrow swift
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id rather get slammed by rollers than hop on eu

mental ridge
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but idk when ever i play eu there are only bots and im realy not that great at apex

sharp ice
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holy shit i even went positive

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im trash

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how

mental ridge
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when ever i play na on 100ping against 200 ping people i swear to god its impossible to hit them

craggy prairie
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i feel happi about my progress in tracking. time to lock in for dynamic and static.

unborn token
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๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

narrow swift
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me no understand comp lingo

unborn token
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he thought it was lobby 3

last sleet
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anyone know who this guy is? xynnna111 has got to be the best aimer to touch the game

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15+ kdr on mnk, dude's just built different

unborn token
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386 spray achieved

narrow swift
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cheating on r5 ๐Ÿ’€

unborn token
narrow swift
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if only r5 stats were nuked

warped lake
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@dull falcon

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40% club

quaint karma
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

hushed pumice
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Anyone got a warmup playlist for kovaaks?

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need something for a roblox game that kinda has a similar aim style to apex

warped lake
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who?

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i've never heard of pocketwatty

quaint karma
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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@warped lake

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is this not you

warped lake
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yeah but never been with watty dor i know who that is

narrow swift
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nosh being reddit detector

warped lake
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not really much to detect

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just never been with pocket watty

quaint karma
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nah nah

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you are

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but this was like a long ass time ago

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and maybe you didnt perceive the relationship as such i wouldnt know

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was a meme between me and some people

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i met you and her in arenas

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in 2022

warped lake
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well i can tell i was never with watty

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but i can dm you

quaint karma
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sure

craggy prairie
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how many of you gamers use this 1:1 sens thingy like in the vidya?

quaint karma
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its useless

craggy prairie
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๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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i am tempted to try this biz myself...

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...but then I'd have to download pex again.

lapis moat
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middspend

narrow swift
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u just dont see the vision

twilit flicker
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hes ass

tight totem
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why practicing in r5 feels so bad

raven hull
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because R5 feels ass

unborn token
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stop coping

raven hull
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im not, it feels horrible compared to retail

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and even retail feels bad tbh

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i swear the aim punch on r5 is like 2x the main game

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ive never felt like im getting an actual concussion from range 1v1's while r5 i have to take a break because it makes me feel nauseous

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ill admit i only started r5 again for the first time in like 2 months yesterday

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so im mega washed

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but it does feel awful

raven hull
vague nexus
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i cant wait for my mouse to come

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i ordered it like 2 months ago

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but it was a preorder

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and maxgaming didnt get a shipment for a long ass time\

raven hull
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what mouse was it again

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i saw the post in griddy but i forgor

unborn token
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i thought we were in griddy

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and i was abt to reply with vile sht

vague nexus
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got it for wayy less

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it was like 70

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now its 100

raven hull
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38g

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not bad

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must be small

mental ridge
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i just realised that i dont think about my aiming ingame and only look for mistakes in aimtrainers

i should definitely be critical towards my aim mistakes Ingame right ?

vague nexus
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a little smaller

mental ridge
vague nexus
raven hull
vague nexus
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wtf is that

raven hull
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my micicles

vague nexus
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how can you even use that

raven hull
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which one, the middle?

vague nexus
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yes

raven hull
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very easily

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its the primary one i use all the time

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the other two are just used from my bed to change what im watching lmao

mental ridge
vague nexus
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im stuck with this tiny thing

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my dav3 scroll wheel died

raven hull
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thats how i hold it

raven hull
vague nexus
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?

raven hull
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?

vague nexus
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tf is that

narrow swift
vague nexus
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my sister took my nail clippers

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and my conditioner

raven hull
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what a bitch

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suplex her through the floor, its the only reasonable recourse

modern flame
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Zeromouse?

raven hull
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Mine? its heavily based on it

modern flame
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Comfy to hold or na

raven hull
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yeah i find it very comfortable

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i tried my g pro again the other day and the size and shape had my hand aching after a few runs

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something i never get with my custom one

unborn token
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best fucking recoil control youll propably see in a while (recoil is easy just pulldown)

main merlin
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I miss arenas

unborn token
devout tusk
dull falcon
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How long do u practice recoil for

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And what guns

narrow swift
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i alr got one ty tho

unborn token
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I just get in range during downtime and shoot havoc or hemlock from range

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Or flatline

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And try to hit more

dull falcon
unborn token
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It started getting to 100-210+ at times

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And now it's like at an avg of 200-250

mental ridge
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finally grabbed my plat role

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i look intimidating ngl

dull falcon
wintry cypress
unborn token
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Greek god

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Type shit

unborn token
mental ridge
unborn token
mental ridge
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woof woof

cobalt ledge
woeful garnet
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you adad too much way too predictable

unborn token
narrow swift
unborn token
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You just go either right or left and follow the other direction right after

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Habit of going back into bullets a lot which is what I used to have not to that extent tho

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Think Abt yr strafe consciously every round bc it feels like yr trying to compensate aim from strafe in most engagements @cobalt ledge

narrow swift
unborn token
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Doki my goat

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The man who taught us how to strafe

narrow swift
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ye its a good vid to learn about strafe

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yep ๐Ÿ™

frail kiln
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sens is too low or you just need to get comfortable using whole mousepad

unborn token
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That looks like .6

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1600

frail kiln
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fr ๐Ÿค”

unborn token
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Sensitivities in that range tend to look like they are trailing / under tracking the target

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Heavily

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In big ish enemy movements

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But they look solid in small ones

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Hence why it feels like it disconnects

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Could be wrong tho

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Just my thoughts

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@cobalt ledge what's yr sens

frail kiln
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you might be right

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just looks so different and I play at same cm/360

cobalt ledge
cobalt ledge
cobalt ledge
narrow swift
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theres a vamp server thats up in r5 sometimes its very good to practice strafe in it

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eu kaizen vamp

cobalt ledge
narrow swift
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nah its fine since its a public server, its good fighting players that are much better than you since your able to learn more

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dont got get too attached to stats

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if your serious about improvement theres people wont mind giving you advice even if your terrible ๐Ÿ˜‚ thats how i learnt

narrow swift
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

worldly herald
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can i promo in this channel

unborn token
unborn token
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Think of it in every fight instead of trying to out trade think of how can this guy not hit me

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Try to walk away from the bullets try to strafe in a way where yr not as predictable and readable etc

unborn token
worldly herald
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okay

narrow swift
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M-M-MAAWWDSSSS

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he posted video nuke him

worldly herald
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i sorry

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i delete if i need to

cobalt ledge
narrow swift
worldly herald
cobalt ledge
frail kiln
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anyone else have this problem where if they soloq Apex for more than 10 minutes tears start to form in their eyes?

craggy prairie
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i was gonna giv up on shooter games but eh. I want to push a little more. maybe something will click or a new game will keep me going.

main merlin
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also I forgot how fun mnk is

tight totem
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yes

ocean flame
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wooo it finally clicked and i can get nova scores on patstrafe now widepeepohappy

narrow swift
cobalt ledge
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anyone wants to jump on kaizen? gonna try to implement some of the tips you recommended

dull falcon
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got diamond i dont wanna play ranked anymore

raven hull
vague nexus
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just bind w to scrollwheel

lusty vault
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^

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I just scroll up for w down for jump

vague nexus
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after jumping dont hold w

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hold a or d

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and the scroll up

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but its still better

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you can tap strafe for like a split seccond after jumping

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doesnt matter

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its just the direction you want to go at

barren jackal
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yoo what lmao

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that's funny

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i bet i sucked because i haven't played in a while

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yeahh but top fragging in mixtape doesn't mean anything

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yess that's true

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70% of my apex gameplay of the past 2 season must've happened in mixtape

spring notch
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actually trying to concentrate and actively implement strafe bias in game is actually so much harder

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than i thought

barren jackal
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you have to brute force it until you don't even have to think about it and becomes a natural habit

spring notch
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ye i watched a video on it and finally understood it

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and was happy i comprehended what it meant and the objective

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then im in game and its like

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i have to actively concentrate on specifically keeping bias in my strafes and dodging

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not even thinking about my aim or anything else

main merlin
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Mixtape is the morale boost mode lol

grim python
frail kiln
grim python
frail kiln
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apex pro player

grim python
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the guy that talked before wasnt me

hybrid blade
wintry cypress
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exact same accent lol

tight totem
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doppelgangers

woeful garnet
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will playing osu make me an aim demon

craggy prairie
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n o

deep linden
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no

deep linden
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bro was doing the same pattern every time almost as if you could read em like an osu beatmap

sinful thistle
mental ridge
vague nexus
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Wtf

raven hull
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certified apex moment

ocean flame
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i thought it was server at first because this happened multiple times and the enemies werent killing me

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but now im not sure

raven hull
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are you playing in a wind tunnel

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testing the aerodynamics of a desk setup

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and yeah that looks like ISP lag, given your team and enemy keep fighting as if nothing happened

lusty vault
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hope youre doing well

ocean flame
raven hull
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one thing to test would be if you have a tab of PacketLoss Test open, and when you get that lag just start the test

ocean flame
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yea i guess its just my internet then

raven hull
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that way you can see if its just your connection to EA's shit box servers or your overall internet is wigging out

ocean flame
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apex servers arent the problem lmao

ocean flame
lusty vault
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if youre still where you used to be geography wise im p close to you now

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and this happens to me

lusty vault
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at least once a game

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in any game i play

ocean flame
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do u have comcast

lusty vault
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verizon

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and it still does it

ocean flame
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gg

lusty vault
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val cs apex i will dc at least once a game

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and then recoonect within 20 seconds

ocean flame
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yep sounds about right

raven hull
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i swear comcast is renown for being dog, like we dont even have it here but ive heard how bad it can be

ocean flame
raven hull
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yeah, i associate it with being a joke provider. The uk equivalent would probably be TalkTalk.

raven hull
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Erm aktually, suck my balls

severe canyon
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Scientology = grammar nazism

unborn token
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We got the second guy in here sounding like a pro

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First it was me w taxi and now g snake

grim python
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the 2nd guy was me

unborn token
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Yeah ik

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You sound like gnaske

quaint karma
unborn token
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Pipe down chief

quaint karma
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the other guy never said g snake

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and why would he?

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he meant gnaske

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

unborn token
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He doesn't know..

quaint karma
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you ruined the fucking joke

ocean flame
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who is bongo

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is he famous

quaint karma
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he plays with king viktor

ocean flame
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oh i was just wondering if there was a reason why people were saying like omg bongo hi in karma

unborn token
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Washed

grim python
unborn token
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no 900

grim python
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Washed

lusty vault
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Peak

unborn token
grim python
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Real

unborn token
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doable

sinful thistle
craggy prairie
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...kitten.

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angy kitten.

wintry cypress
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very

vast oak
wintry cypress
craggy prairie
craggy prairie
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i'm going to shoot myself

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(in minecraft)

tight totem
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why u sad man

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the meter is going up that's a good thing

craggy prairie
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tru...

craggy prairie
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i said i'd have to start working on static clicking eventually so...that's pretty neat for day 1.

frail kiln
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Static sucks

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nobody stands still in game

toxic magnet
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all my homies hate static.

craggy prairie
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you can't make this up

craggy prairie
visual bluff
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i just broke 12k in close fast strafes invincible - thin

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lets gooooo

craggy prairie
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

barren jackal
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yuh

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does anyone here have experience with breaking scrollwheels through playing apex?

craggy prairie
frail kiln
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like it's never smooth and half the time I'm just jumping into the wall like some kinda NPC PepEsAd

placid root
craggy prairie
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i need to try getting clips for a little montage for my smol channel that i want to grow

severe canyon
forest gazelle
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nah itโ€™s just the most likely thing to die in a mouse first esp in apex

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i went thru 2 wheels in 5000 hrs probably

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scroll wheel encoders are shite on most mice

craggy prairie
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5k hours

tight totem
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my left hand hurts and my mouse can't take it

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it's getting crazy

craggy prairie
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uh oh

tight totem
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that was like season 12 tho

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i don't play as much anymore so i'm fine

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someone was having too much fun farming s12 lobbies

craggy prairie
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what were szn 12 lobbies like think

forest gazelle
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i think itโ€™s fine

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season 12 was pisseasy it was free pred just for whoever played more

toxic magnet
forest gazelle
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ye that was equally as bad as the olympus split in s12

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kc split wasnโ€™t that fucked cus everyone hated kc

toxic magnet
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climbing was easy as hell in s17 you could really not lose points

forest gazelle
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same in s12 we would get 1k avg a day in pred

toxic magnet
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i think s17 it would go so bad up like 5k a day last few days

forest gazelle
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yea i saw on apex status

toxic magnet
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people would just rat in zone all game

forest gazelle
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it was so fucked lol

toxic magnet
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it became less about skill and more about who wanted to play longer

forest gazelle
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snore asf

toxic magnet
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people would just account share so they would play 24/7 i saw someone with 12k up in 1 day

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was beyond cooked

forest gazelle
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u know ur ranking systems crazy when u gotta be jobless to maintain top rank

toxic magnet
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ong

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thatโ€™s why i enjoyed season 20 and this szn

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without the cheaters these seasons would have been great

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kinda annoying that S20 split 1 just didnโ€™t count

forest gazelle
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havenโ€™t really seen howโ€™s it been nowadays bc I donโ€™t touch the game anymore but i heard my friend complaining abt the cheaters

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thereโ€™s always cheaters though, but i noticed some seasons itโ€™ll spike

toxic magnet
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itโ€™s sad truth everyone you fight in ranked now especially EU if you just say the team you fighting is cheating you got a very high possibility that you are correct

forest gazelle
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eu has always been cheater fest tbf

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i would never play eu servers in pred

white flicker
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good choice

forest gazelle
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queueing oregon is best

white flicker
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it is awful

forest gazelle
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cleanest players

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bc most streamers play oregon

craggy prairie
craggy prairie
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i land on a p2020 and the roller path gets a spitfire.

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lol. lmao, even.

craggy prairie
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this game is enjoyable if you just don't give af and expect nada

wintry cypress
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It can be

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But DEMOCRACY IS CALLING

gentle dagger
craggy prairie
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apex leggings

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ape sex

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play with pecs legends

ocean flame
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this game is actually so damn good wtf

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crazy fun

craggy prairie
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yeah buggin

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i am lying my ass off

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i got aimbotted a few times and even though i shouldn't care i certainly do.

lusty vault
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Very fun game

dull falcon
frail kiln
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not the only way

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A lot of the problems in esports go back to doing away with open circuits

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franchising, bringing in VC money, developers waiting far too long to do revenue sharing of any kind

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I also hear MBS is doing a lot to modernize SA but tbh I don't know enough about it so I won't speak on the subject

craggy prairie
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i did the hipfire thingy

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basically aceu COPIUM

craggy prairie
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yes

bright slate
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1x2 on flatline is kinda baller ngl

craggy prairie
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idk how serious apex players run their kits but i wasn't going to leave the sight there because it can 2x

dull falcon
bright slate
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only sight i use on the havoc is the 2x4

dull falcon
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U get to have smg havoc and swap to asault havoc

narrow swift
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shotgun havoc inshallah

craggy prairie
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peacekeeper with a 3x and a sightless p2020

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as you can see, i have absolutely no idea what i am talking abt

frail kiln
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you have to trust Taxi2g nolifing that gun for how long running 1x2

craggy prairie
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he's so good at the game!

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and good looking

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that's like double good.

solar lichen
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how do i learn apex movement tech

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all ik is sliding bro

tight totem
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tapstrafe + lurch all u need

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but lurch is a scam

craggy prairie
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a lunch strafe.

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MiniheraDogRun me omw to lunch

craggy prairie
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i am tired of being concious

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i sleep

dull falcon
narrow swift
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why is r5 so miserable to play

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nobody wants to swing out, just play corners and headglitches

severe canyon
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Sometimes I hop on EU r5 and realise instantly why I donโ€™t play it

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Everyone just jigglepeaks or slides to the button

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Donโ€™t know why everyoneโ€™s so weird

narrow swift
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its on NA as well

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actual aids

severe canyon
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Yeah na definitely not as bad though

sinful thistle
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but range is broken

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so thats great

unborn token
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And the only reason they play it is to " try " and get better

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Even tho we all know it's just to post stats on twitter

narrow swift
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some roller peeps are cool

unborn token
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Like name a more iconic duo

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Roller 4-3 linear on r5 with 0 actual mechanical prowess that sits behind cover and jigglepeejs

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To win 99% of fights so he can post his 2 kd on karma on twitter

mental ridge
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aimassist inflated egos

unborn token
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Out of 900

mental ridge
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like its rare to find a humble roller player

unborn token
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Like think abt the aim mnk players that actually have distinctive

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Features as players

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One is smoother than the other

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One has better dodge and is mega reactive

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One is schizo aimer but hits almost everything

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One has mega insane range

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What do roller fucks have

mental ridge
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like for some people their only achievement they ever had gaming is beeing able to beam others with aimassist thus they greatly overestimate how much its them actually beeing good

mental ridge
next latch
raven hull
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if you watch a roller streamer you are watching for the personality because the gameplay can be seen anywhere else

raven hull
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shame 99% of apex streamers are about as charismatic as a dead fish

mental ridge
next latch
raven hull
next latch
raven hull
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and click off

mental ridge
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cant wait for a day where shiv plays "controller" with 2 twist nob potentiometers

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i mean he already beams with his mouth and feet playing "controller"

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i think u should only be allowed to play controller when youre physically handicapped

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like if some dude beams me aiming with his chin i dont care

next latch
mental ridge
next latch
mental ridge
unborn token
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@next latch ki

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all ik

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is fuck roller

next latch
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damn

daring skiff
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Based mnk player with Jade pfp

next latch
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mods "get him" O_O

unborn token
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get on dota

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little slave

next latch
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jkjk

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u got ql?

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@unborn token

unborn token
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yes

next latch
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come paris antilag 1\

unborn token
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ill go dota

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after r5

next latch
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T_T

quaint karma
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while sitting there blowing into a tube and aiming with his mouth

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

mental ridge
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WITHOUT HANDS

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WITHOUT ARMS

mental ridge
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for better posture

mental ridge
mental ridge
# craggy prairie

funny hearing that as a multi master 40k+ former controller player

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this is the kind of controller player that plays lowsense coz they are shit

craggy prairie
mental ridge
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like shooting strafing dummies without aimassist isnt inaccessible build some mechanics

craggy prairie
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why build mechanics when easy way

unborn token
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@next latch more quake

next latch
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down

unborn token
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I eat and get back on

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Dawnbreaker 15 mins winning entire mid game

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Lowkey

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Ballin

mental ridge
craggy prairie
sharp nimbus
craggy prairie
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0.3

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......

ocean flame
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more than i expected

craggy prairie
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no one is going to notice that!

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like at all!

ocean flame
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also earlier than i expected

craggy prairie
severe canyon
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I think aimpunch will be pretty noticeable and bad medium range but weโ€™ll see

tight totem
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let them cook

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this is beyond my wildest expectations

raven hull
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quite sizeable, will filter out some of the mega crutch roller players

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at the very least

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and the better rollers will adapt in a few days

devout tusk
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Only took the game dying

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For them to change it

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Dont read the replies to that tweet

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Dont make the mistake i did

raven hull
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some giga braindead takes ive seen on the youtube vultures who upload "news"

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from the comments sections i mean

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"mnk can tap strafe" as soon as you see that you know you are aruging with someone with a 0.2kd who plays roller

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because fucking neo strafe cfg twats are so easy to beam on MnK and even easier if you have more than 3 synapse on roller.

devout tusk
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Tapstrafing doesnt do damage

raven hull
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exactly

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who has ever WON a game or a FIGHT purely from tapstrafing

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and nothing else

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and how many times have 4-3 turrets stood dead still and mowed you down

frail kiln
#

this game is so chalked

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@unborn token people are saying it's "MnK szn" now what do we think Clueless

marsh sentinel
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Instead of giving rollers aim punch they should remove MnK aim punch and keep the .3 nerf IMO

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If MnK had no aim punch that would be a massive buff for us

frail kiln
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I asked reps about this and he thinks aim punch is fine

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it's a penalty for getting cracked and makes getting the knock easier

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but aim assist tracking through it

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is just so cancer

marsh sentinel
#

yeah if you grind r5 you will notice it immediately as soon as you get cracked your bullet accuracy drops absurdly that just seems like a bad mechanic all around but if roller has it too at least it will be even

devout tusk
#

Tbh its part of what makes apex feel like apex

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Adds way more tension to those moments

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And frustration

frail kiln
#

for sure

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He's already spoken ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿฅ€

narrow swift
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mfs acting like the game all of a sudden is better coz aa got a """nerf"""

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lamaow

devout tusk
#

They need to make the aa radius smaller too

frail kiln
#

the game would immediately be better if controller got a serious nerf though

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nerf havoc too and I'll no life apex again ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ

quaint karma
alpine trail
#

This game sucks everyone just aimbot

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Aimboting

white flicker
#

me

unborn token
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The nerf won't do literally anything

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It's going to be the exact same for good to insane rollers even for a half ass vverage

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Average roller

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Only ones who will notice a change are complete npcs

floral lodge
frail kiln
#

is next week patch week ๐Ÿ™ƒ

narrow swift
mental ridge
# frail kiln

i mean its only 14% worse regarding how big the reaction time window gets increased coz of instant aimassist reactions...

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they still have 42% more time to react than mnk on 0.4 its 67% more time

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still gonna be inhuman beams

narrow swift
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o7 are they proud of me

sinful thistle
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very much so

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bills tweet is so funny

narrow swift
#

i genuinely thought it was real

sinful thistle
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i didnt watch the vid and thought the same

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its so good tho

narrow swift
#

pc players so dumb. guy is not even moving just do adadadadad while u have godmode. only pc player complain while having godmode, aim assist doesn't work like this for me so it's not broken it works like a small pull and i do 95% aiming u are probably using cronus or xim.
reddit comment peepo Kekw~1

sinful thistle
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the controller shake change is actually genius

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if they add that the controllers cant tell why they are missing

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then they remove it and it feels better while lowering aa

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manipulation

mental ridge
#

ngl as far as i understand it they gonna remove or lower the strenght with wich aimassist fights aimpunch

frail kiln
#

that seems so hard to implement

mental ridge
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so aimpunch wont get partially compensated by aimassist or only at like 0.15 for example

mental ridge
#

theoretically if it doesn't get factord in by aimassist it should even mean less inputlag

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wait maybe camera shake also includes recoil

narrow swift
mental ridge
#

that would be huge if recoil wont get decreased by aimassist

narrow swift
#

andrew wilson is a genius

junior wraith
white flicker
junior wraith
white flicker
mental ridge
#

omg 4:24

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apparently aimassist override is gonna be enabled in pc lobbies

dull falcon
#

Yay

craggy prairie
#

none of my nice one-clips saved thx AMD

forest gazelle
#

its your sign to swap to the superior software OBS

craggy prairie
#

tru.

late furnace
frail kiln
lapis moat
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i gotta be the only person that thinks a slight amount of flinch should exist

craggy prairie
#

get it out of the game

sinful thistle
#

i dont really like it

lapis moat
#

it sucks and theres too much rn but i think theres a point to it

sinful thistle
#

i honestly prefer kb to flinch

lapis moat
#

i think taking a fight while cracked SHOULD put u at a disadvantage other than just having less health

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aim wise

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just like how it is in CS

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nerf to 0.3 is gonna do literally 0 though lmao

sinful thistle
#

im gonna wait and see

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im not so sure it will do nothing

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but probably wont change alot

lapis moat
#

it will slightly improve things as in the most garbage trashcans in pubs cant roll u on accident

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but anyone mildly decent at the input will still be unbeatable up close

sinful thistle
#

maybe but with the way it works it does pull a bit slower

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so im wondering if its easier to walk out of

lapis moat
#

it should be easier to walk out of ye

sinful thistle
#

which could probably turn alot of moments in my head

lapis moat
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cuz it doesnt pull as hard

sinful thistle
#

the fucked part is though lowering the value basically

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only changes the pull speed im pretty sure

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and maybe the bubble

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its weird

lapis moat
#

its gonna depend on range up close like <10m theres no diff but 20+ its gonna be less aids now

sinful thistle
#

r5 stats should be cool

lapis moat
#

im pretty sure its pull speed since 1.0 is full on hard lock

sinful thistle
#

0.3 vs 0.4

lapis moat
sinful thistle
#

still big

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that would be nice honestly

lapis moat
#

yea its an improvement

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so the avg roller is still shooting at world class mnk levels

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instead of inhuman acc

sinful thistle
#

the flinch thing

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seems really fucking good

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if it works the way i think it does

lapis moat
#

i have no idea how they are gonna do that

sinful thistle
#

well they have had how long to do it

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too long

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they must of cooked something

lapis moat
#

i thought the only reason why rollers "have less flinch" is just cuz AA instantly readjusts itself

sinful thistle
#

we pray aa just gets fucked on flinch

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could have a few weeks of good apex

lapis moat
#

so i have no idea how they are gonna increase that other than literally just increasing the base values lmao

lapis moat
#

bottom line is all about matchmaking give me back old pubs and we are good

#

id legit stream 10 hours of pubs if i got old pubs back no troll

main merlin
#

So mnk not complete trash next season?

lapis moat
#

i assume its gonna be the same as source games where it sends the hit angle from the server

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and then it just applies the angle with some values to scale

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and the reason why it feels so aids in apex is cuz the hit angle has low precision so it just isnt accurate to where the shots are coming from IIRC (DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS)

young pine
lapis moat
#

? how u know that

sinful thistle
#

why is sbmm bad

young pine
#

but yeah

lapis moat
sinful thistle
#

thats how it should be if you are better than plat though

#

right?

lapis moat
#
  • no solo q so have fun trying to 1v3 stacks
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  • scaling is terrible so i literally cannot play with my friends in pubs
mental ridge
sinful thistle
#

the friends thing is annoying

lapis moat
#

the only way i can play with my IRLs that's not immediately unfun for all of us is to smurf in low but that's like not actually healthy for the game

mental ridge
lapis moat
#

going from a 8kdr to a 3 is just awesomesauce i love Sweating in pubs

mental ridge
sinful thistle
#

im just not a big fan of turbo smurfing in games but maybe apex pubs a bit more acceptable

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like in ow i just feel bad queuing qp cause my mmr is so low on it

#

it's like giga noobs

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ruins the game for them

lapis moat
#

before theres some sbmm but its not immediately impossible to play as solo

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now its just unfun for everyone even ur average ucz u get put into high mmr instantly after a win

#

cant even get 4k 20s in pubs without bot lobbying

frail kiln
#

without sbmm this game will actually spiral to 0

sinful thistle
#

maybe just have noob mmr and then unfiltered

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i do feel bad for noobs

lapis moat
#

yeh something like that would help

mental ridge
lapis moat
#

like being a causal mnk thats gold level in this game is legit worse than death

young pine
#

sbmm isnt the problem

young pine
#

its retention based mm

mental ridge
sinful thistle
#

im not gonna pretend that i understand that system but it does seem silly

lapis moat
#

basically if u win a game u get fucked by it

young pine
#

^

lapis moat
#

and theres still no solo q

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so higher mmr -> more 3 stacks

mental ridge
#

alot of mnk players had over 5 years to learn the game new players just cant easily catch up

lapis moat
#

and in pubs 3 stacks -> 3 controllers because killgrinding is a deeply controller trait

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also turbosmurfing is just fun in apex when ur playing solo squads

sinful thistle
#

hmm

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maybe

lapis moat
#

at least add a solo queue and scale things between players better so I can actually queue on main without dying of aids

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right now its probably just using the peak MMR in the party

sinful thistle
#

do u have a discord server doki

frail kiln
sinful thistle
#

i've got some friends who suck at games and it's miserable for them when they get put in lobbies like that

#

not even really room to improve

lapis moat
sinful thistle
lapis moat
#

idk what id use it for ngl

frail kiln
#

this exchange XDDDDDDDDDD

#

quakers pepeLaff

young pine
#

thats the issue. casuals should feel encouraged to get better instead of being kept in a bubble where they think they're better than they are

lapis moat
#

its true no one plays video games to get good lol

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that mindset died 15 years ago

young pine
#

also the 90th percentike is not very good

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its not hard to get there

sinful thistle
#

quake players love to act like their game is so difficult haha

frail kiln
#

doki just saying that because we're in Voltaic

lapis moat
sinful thistle
#

most quakers are senile

frail kiln
#

hmmm maybe you're right though

frail kiln
#

just let them cope

lapis moat
#

just how gaming is as a hobby now

frail kiln
#

15 years ago is wrong though

sinful thistle
#

when i grew up i barely knew what comp gaming was

#

there was no way to get into it

young pine
#

15yrs is right

sinful thistle
#

really

frail kiln
#

I think SC2 was competitive

lapis moat
#

more people are competitive but in the grand scheme of things people are less competitive as a whole

#

like the number of people went up but their part in gaming as a whole is down for sure

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especially for FPS

frail kiln
#

I mean what about Fortnite

young pine
#

15 yrs ago most "gamers" today would mock ppl playing video games all day

sinful thistle
#

i think more people look down on competitiveness

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in a way

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but im not sure less people as a % are competitive

lapis moat
#

causals are louder too

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literally and also financially too so games need to cater to them more

frail kiln
#

Not every game has this problem though

sinful thistle
#

u just need to seperate casual modes and competitive modes

lapis moat
#

its worse in apex cuz they cant even cater to causals correctly

frail kiln
#

generally speaking the complaints of top players in Counterstrike are echo'd in some way by more casual players

lapis moat
#

(they are also not having fun)

sinful thistle
#

i think in an ideal world they aren't even balanced the same

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ow qp hacked stuff is cool

#

thats a good example

lapis moat
#

ye preferably u keep the two separate like tf2 (peak)

frail kiln
lapis moat
#

literally just 2 different games using the same mechanics

sinful thistle
#

casual, unranked, ranked

#

something like that

young pine
#

mtx fucked gaming. it will never be competitive again

bright slate
#

yeah

frail kiln
#

mtx?

bright slate
#

fuck Bethesda

young pine
#

micro transactions

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skins ect

frail kiln
#

ye I get what you mean

sinful thistle
#

i think it's more of the philosophy behind selling the game

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it went from creating a good product

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to creating a product that sells

young pine
#

it made the casuals opinions the only ones that matter.

lapis moat
#

its not really about mtx

young pine
#

we're makin the same point in essense

lapis moat
#

i dabble in the mtx every now and then and its cool

frail kiln
#

same jej

bright slate
#

"just dont buy them bro"

sinful thistle
#

anyone wanna vamp

young pine
#

hell nah

#

maybe once AA is .0001

sinful thistle
#

ok i put aa to 0

frail kiln
#

I've been wondering

#

was there a pro player who did the most to change the comp scene

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like first roller player to make everyone realize it was broken

sinful thistle
#

smeggytoe was crazy but he was actually good

lapis moat
#

im gonna say snipe

frail kiln
#

I thought it might be Genburten

forest gazelle
frail kiln
#

in which case Zer0 basically caused all of this by teaming with him

#

what about gild

#

he seems like someone in NA that had a big effect it seems like

placid root
#

I had a dream about some Apex streamer sending me 3 of those magnesium-shelled mice

#

Idek what my dreams are anymore

mental ridge
#

everybody was trying genburtons alcs

#

0 2 (insert preferred deadzone)
500 500 0 0 0 0
140 140 0 0 0 0

#

verhulst popularized 4 3

#

and then when hal switched to 4 3 linear that got popular af aswell

#

b4 people would play classic too now linear is standard

#

im talking from the perspective of a casual that isnt really paying too mucb attention to pro league

lapis moat
#

not evan

mental ridge
#

evan blew up as a 4 3 classic player

forest gazelle
mental ridge
forest gazelle
#

im a casual now ๐Ÿง™

mental ridge
#

im talking about casuals that arent good or interested in becomming somewhat good but those who just play for fun

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like tge typical console fuse

raven hull
#

its jover for you

placid root
raven hull
#

i had an apex dream the other day, ive played the live game once in the last 3 weeks and somehow had a fking dream about it

ocean flame
#

was there a mastiff buff

#

i cant find anything online

raven hull
#

a few patches ago

#

like s20 i think

#

reduced spread and swap speed iirc

raven hull
#

S19 midseason patch

ocean flame
#

thats not it

#

its doing so much dmg rn its crazy

#

maybe just kovaaks paying off fr....

#

its hitting 120-129 dmg

fossil field
#

saw somewhere its bugged currently

#

i think it hits harder against white helmets or something like that

ocean flame
#

i think its more than just against white helmets

#

its hitting absurdly hard all the time rn

#

yep

#

120 dmg against body ? ?

fossil field
#

yeah seems like its bugged completely then haha

ocean flame
#

i was hitting 40-50 per shot from on top of a balloon with it lmao

#

actually sniping

lapis moat
#

madness no ADS would actually be the best mnk in the world

severe canyon
#

clips of him 4x zoomed in 2m away from an enemy are the most entertainment i get from the game though

lapis moat
#

watching him play is so insane hes actually decent and just ints every fight like that

#

he can just legit let go of m2 and do like 30 extra dmg per mag

#

goat though shoutout short people

severe canyon
#

yeah i dont get the thought process

lapis moat
#

just bad habits basically if u look at enough pros u can see bad habits on all of them

#

monsoon bad fundamentals, madness ADS too much, etc

#

apacn doesnt use movement correctly, most rollers are shit at dodge, etc

forest gazelle
narrow swift
lapis moat
#

i gotta become the pge of apex

#

its fax

white flicker
#

?

lapis moat
#

i need to have that aura

white flicker
#

yo

#

what are we saying

lapis moat
#

whats wrong with pge is this an overwatch hate channel

white flicker
#

you just wanna run it down

#

I get it

lapis moat
#

hell yea

white flicker
#

๐Ÿค

white flicker
#

?

ocean flame
#

yep

#

thats absurd

#

it feels like if u get a mastiff its just guaranteed wipe entire lobby rn

#

i got a free 20k with it

#

somehow not too many ppl r realizing tho

frail kiln
#

@ocean flame wtf LMAOOO

#

carepack mastiff ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

tight totem
#

why tf doesn't it work for me

#

wat

raven hull
#

maybe its been hotfixed

craggy prairie
#

my ultra custom symm 2 has been giving me nice results. mahiro i require more mice this shape.

tight totem
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

#

1v3 just like s8

raven hull
craggy prairie
#

now go. mastiff ppl to death

tight totem
#

mastiff is so back
i'm crying

next latch
lapis moat
#

real tears

#

theres real tears rn

vague nexus
#

August fools

craggy prairie
lapis moat
#

real tears