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sharp ice
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i cant use 1.7 or r5

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too slow

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idk

oblique nymph
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any EU ranked?

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next latch
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ye

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@unborn token

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Aight sound

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Give me 5

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I'm on

next latch
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oka

oblique nymph
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nice

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@next latch@oblique nymphcome vc

oblique nymph
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where

white peak
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0.17 x 700 is good for me

devout tusk
sharp ice
devout tusk
craggy prairie
sharp ice
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wtf

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why am i so bad

sharp ice
craggy prairie
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with good time you will see gains FrierenStonks

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might play apex again as an excuse to try my new pc parts later in the year. mayhaps a rankerson grind but for now i require weeb games.

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lots and lotsa weeb games ShakyEyes

sharp ice
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tbf i havent slept

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again

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but .5 kd

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very bad

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12 headshot also absolutely trssh

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%

craggy prairie
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...go to sleep. that's one of the reasons you're not performing well

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Think this might cook and piss some people off

main merlin
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Some monkey is gonna see it

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And actually get triggere

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Triggered

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Bc that's what they think an avg player looks like

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Most of the time

frail abyss
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r5r stats are lovely, vs mnk i have a 2.07 kd and vs controller i have a 0.7 kd lmfao

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real video game

wind forge
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GUYS I WON BEFORE I EVEN DROPPED IN

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I MAY BE THE GOAT

sharp ice
mental ridge
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@frail abyss do you play karma or voltaic

dull falcon
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eu voltaic is so mid

frail abyss
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usually im awake at ass hours tho so i usually play na

craggy prairie
lapis moat
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yea we all went to canada last year

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sinful thistle
signal sandal
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Does anyone have a pretty good firing range routine for warming up or whatever? I usually just run around mindlessly killing bots.

indigo ruin
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r5 be blinding me like a counterstrike flash when its loading up lol

raven hull
edgy crane
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When u launch game thru steam

vestal isle
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this works. -novid doesnt work for me for some reason.

frail abyss
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pretty sure novid has been disabled for years

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i could be wrong tho, novid has just never worked for me

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oh in r5 maybe its diff i didnt read context properly

edgy crane
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im using -novid

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on both r5 and main apex

velvet obsidian
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anyone use the sense 1600*1 edpi? wondering how to improve my close range tracking.

arctic violet
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buy a roller

craggy prairie
sharp ice
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what is this echo

craggy prairie
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happy dancin'

warped lake
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I want my r5 to look my actual apex

twilit flicker
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this game is so dead lmfao

compact oracle
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Wtf is that new battle pass system

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Peak ea greed

rose wraith
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Wow you can’t buy the battlepass with coins any more?

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Sounds like I don’t need a battlepass any more!

compact oracle
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Instead of improving it so more people buy it they do this now Sadge

frail kiln
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Apex approaching end of life šŸ„¹šŸ„€

compact oracle
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fr ong

rose wraith
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Making it paid only isn’t exactly uncommon for f2p

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But they shouldn’t be changing their model this late in the game

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The enshittification continues

warped lake
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enoch only has a 3kd

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i'm so curious what his method is to get so much RP in a day

craggy prairie
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"only 3kd" AkashiHide

mental ridge
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oofy

craggy prairie
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common EA L

mental ridge
craggy prairie
wintry cypress
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I dont see this change going anywhere unless they put the price back to apex coins instead of real money

mental ridge
wintry cypress
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Nah i dont enjoy the game that much atm

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Not just the BP lol

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Been playing without it for a while now

craggy prairie
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eh it wasn't that long ago but it feels distant.

wintry cypress
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I havent uninstalled it cause i got more than enough disk space and dont feel like reinstalling if my friend wants to play or smth

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But i feel no reason to start the game on my own

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I used to play this game so much lmao

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Now i just play elden ring or xenoverse or smth

craggy prairie
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felt.

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i've been playing Granblue Fantasy and Granblue Relink on steam lately...

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playing apex all of the time turned into rarely playing it then not at all.

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the darkest timeline has come true despair

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wait wait wait

wintry cypress
bright elm
craggy prairie
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Uma Musume ExuStare

woeful garnet
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you can now get 4800 crafting materials per season

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but nobody wants to spend $20 every season

mental ridge
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and generally speaking if it would get better quality of life support

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fixed audio

woeful garnet
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thats just never gonna happen

mental ridge
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better servers

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like if that was included with the battlepass id go for it immediately

woeful garnet
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theres never gonna be no cheaters

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i dont even know how theyd do that

craggy prairie
severe canyon
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Just put them on the naughty step if they cheat, problem solved

main merlin
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Ranked?

mental ridge
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the same way how they could improve servers

woeful garnet
mental ridge
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either host their own or rent better ones but ea is greedy

severe canyon
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Huh

mental ridge
severe canyon
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Sean bugging

woeful garnet
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right

mental ridge
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im not a game publisher i dont have money i can spend to hire experts

severe canyon
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I sell my data directly to the Chinese

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Vanguard just a dlc for me

mental ridge
severe canyon
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Cus spyware

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It’s a good anti cheat

woeful garnet
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maybe the fact that it has access to literally everything in your computer

severe canyon
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But like

woeful garnet
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and its linked to tencent

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maybe

mental ridge
severe canyon
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I mean they could just make their own kernel anti cheat and steal your data for themselves doe you right

mental ridge
severe canyon
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Word is bond

woeful garnet
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ea is linked to vancouver and vancouver is linked to china and china will nuke us all

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thanks a lot wolf great idea

mental ridge
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maybe fund a independent anti cheat dev studio thats none Profit and has strict data security rules
money can do if they wanted to they could they make enought money

woeful garnet
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and even if they did make a kernel level anti cheat

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whats stopping people from just using another pc

severe canyon
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Huh

woeful garnet
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people spend hundreds of dollars buying cheats and accounts

severe canyon
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They already hardware ban

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That’s not what a kernel level anti cheat is

woeful garnet
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I dont think u understand any thing ..

severe canyon
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That’s like a 50/50

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What I’m not understand

mental ridge
woeful garnet
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Ok but again people will complain about invasive anti cheat

severe canyon
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Can you bypass kernel anti cheat by having two pcs?

woeful garnet
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Uhhh

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Duhhhh

severe canyon
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Chill bruh

woeful garnet
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Dkm

mental ridge
severe canyon
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You a bastard

mental ridge
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valorant is a pretty popular game and alot pf people play it

severe canyon
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That’s why I don’t listen to Frank ocean

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You putting me off

woeful garnet
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Aight bro go listen to Pink Floyd or something

mental ridge
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if your so pressed about your data go dual boot and have one os for gaming alone

severe canyon
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Oh hell nah jigsaw you tweaking

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I know yo ass listens to Justin timberlake and weeps

woeful garnet
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So what

severe canyon
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You too sensitive for this day and age

mental ridge
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@severe canyon youre next lvl baiting lmao

severe canyon
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Trolls world tour is not a good movie bro what??

woeful garnet
mental ridge
severe canyon
woeful garnet
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Im filipino

severe canyon
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You most definitely not thuggish bruh

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That’s a damn lie

woeful garnet
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I a,

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I am

severe canyon
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You definitely listen to drake

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That’s unfuckwitable

woeful garnet
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Imma put my drake in u

severe canyon
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You rn

woeful garnet
severe canyon
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That’s a non-sequitur

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You just messing wit me now

indigo ruin
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craggy prairie
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HisWattson might NEED to consult a Respawn Dev after THIS happened in S21 Pred Lobby!

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indigo ruin
craggy prairie
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addicted to apex KayokoDespair

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godspeed, friend.

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i sleep

tribal forum
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lmao having to buy a bp 2 times is wild

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Greedy ass corp

woeful garnet
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if you buy it once youre getting the rewards youd get from one season bp

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the new system allows u to get more rewards for more money

tribal forum
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No

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Just no

rose wraith
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I have given respawn 10 dollars in 7 seasons

tribal forum
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I wasn’t. EA smart doe

rose wraith
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And played 7 battle passes

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I not giving them another 10

tribal forum
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they just milking their players with all these spam collection events and overpriced skins for a long time now and then they do this

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Time to be hit with ā€œfree game don’t buy itā€ excuse

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shame to see a game i used to mai go like this

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main

dull falcon
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if actual content creators actually mass decided hey lets boycott the game mfs would care but theyre gonna do stuiff for content and buy shit regardless

tribal forum
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duh?

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I can still complain though

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idk why i have to say that tbh but yea

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dull falcon
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community: This is a really shit change. (They put it to 10$ max instead of 20$) Ok this is better but still bad. EA wins less uproar about it

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tactical

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dull falcon
compact oracle
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The only benefit is if you plan to buy out a collection event in the future. If you get 4 'Premium' Battlepasses for 40$ you are short 2300 coins for an heirloom in a collection event. Meaning you can get heirloom in 4 Passes + 20$ or 5-6 Passes depending on your currency leftovers. Which is 100$ cheaper then buying the event directly.

But yeah at the end you are paying upfront for the chance for a cool event so probably still not worth it.

lapis moat
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@sinful thistle peak going on in aimmag LMAO

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thank god i didnt ban this brainlet frame 1 im watching peak

sinful thistle
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LOL

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Interesting character he is

lapis moat
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legit funny critter in my server

sinful thistle
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i just feel like the gig must get tiring after a bit man

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having to constantly do it must be boring

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hes not making money or anything to the point where its worth it

lapis moat
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legit cheating for the love of the game

sinful thistle
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i wanna 1v1 him

lapis moat
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honestly that clip couldve been legit cuz its fucking garbage lmao

sinful thistle
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i dont think u can cheat that easily in valorant

lapis moat
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but i know mr 2k 1w6ts could do better than that

sinful thistle
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anyone who cheats in one game probably cheats in others though

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so even if it looks real he probably doing something

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i actually think theres a chance i can beat him in a vamp gamemode considering how bad he probably strafes

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unless he just rages

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u can hit bad dodge with such high accuracy

lapis moat
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in something like quake or ow probably

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this shit is so funny to read dawg this guy is a legit lolcow

hybrid blade
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easy to clip

dull falcon
hybrid blade
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Therefore an easy target but still beam them first

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Roller brain basically

arctic violet
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s22 bp will be the last cash squeeze omg šŸ˜‚

arctic violet
mental ridge
arctic violet
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if he like it what's the problem

hybrid blade
# quaint karma easy to clip

Also that's partially my positioning to blame been working on it so lots of these clips were me having a very good angle and abusing it

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mental ridge
hybrid blade
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Its bullshit but part of the learning curve is risk mitigation and just covering the worst outcome for yourself consistently then easy 15-30 kill games ery time

mental ridge
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id rather keep building my ranked / pubs gamesense

arctic violet
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build for what? game will be dead before the end of the year

dull falcon
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another roller shit game wow

indigo ruin
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Got bullied by cheaters earlier the entire game. I downed one of the cheaters with a charged sentinal headshot. And then immediately fast AF get downed be the other 2 from like 100 meters. They legit let my team get my tag and followed them around all game rushing and killing me EVERYTIME they brought my banner to the beacon. And just killed me over and over all game. At least I got 2nd place tho lol

indigo ruin
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visual bluff
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R5 is way better for warmup
much more shooting then mixtape

indigo ruin
# mental ridge most do

I asked how many of you guys use controller in this thread a few days ago and not one person said they use keyboard lol most ppl are in fact using a controller in this game have u seen the aim assist?

mental ridge
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only nosh and this kamis gace up on themselves and use aimassist

raven hull
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Most people in here are MnK, just because no one replied to you doesnt suddenly mean MnK players dont exist here lol

devout tusk
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like 4 or 5 rollers

indigo ruin
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I took a screenshot of the chat cuz it saddened me 😭

devout tusk
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demotori, world renowned controller apex player

raven hull
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yeah demotori is trolling, patches is roller not sure about nekosu

barren jackal
sinful thistle
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nah demotori is roller now

quaint karma
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and theyll also post kovaaks scores ig

next latch
raven hull
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Anyone ranking w me and @next latch

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Guaranteed vibes

quaint karma
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near 9k, hvaent played it in like 10 days

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i dont play too much kovaaks

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Near 9k

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I gotta get 12 atp

quaint karma
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future hitting 41% acc on r5 on mnk btw

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Average per round?

quaint karma
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hes averaging 39+

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Shit

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My good rounds r 36-38

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I gotta lock it the fuck I

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InšŸ’€

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But I still technically have the highest

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Acc in 1 round

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For being 44.69

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šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø

next latch
quaint karma
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i actually think its possible

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but it requires a lot of time investment

unborn token
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It's possibpe

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Possible

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But you Perma acc max

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By strafing

next latch
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Which means you'll need a decent lobby

quaint karma
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@next latch also u suck in-game

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Shutup

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Dog

next latch
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Now play ranked w me

next latch
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So I can flame u

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For ur input

quaint karma
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are people actually chal farming for acc 😭

unborn token
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People do that

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Yes

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Lol

next latch
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Nosh do u ever look at the leaderboard

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And wonder

unborn token
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My female friend said she almost run over a person in her driving class

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And called it a

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Silly mistake

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Women are not real

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"yeah I just almost ran someone over"

next latch
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Some1 come rank or I end it all pls

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I'd have to warmup

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For at least 30 mine

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Before rank

quaint karma
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i still wonder how xanders is so good tho btw

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Ain't rawdogging it no more for my sanitydake

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Sake

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and why is he not on the lb anymore

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Gnaske also turned into the goat

quaint karma
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like you can only find him by searching his name

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Or I just played horrifically dogshit yesterday

next latch
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Just accuracy farming by locking nubs in eu is cringe

unborn token
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Patch knows when I went in vc

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šŸ™‚

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Idk gnaske improved his strafe

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Or I was just horrid

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But I was also first for couple of minutes on that round

next latch
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Wait u got mobbed by gnaske?

unborn token
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So I propably started throwing

unborn token
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Only like 2 1s where I just mega threw

next latch
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Id shoot u fr

unborn token
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But I was surprised he could kill me

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And I was bjtching the whole time

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So it got to me mentally and I schizoed out

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And left the server

quaint karma
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bro WHAT

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look at his acc

next latch
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Go nosh find the truths

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šŸ’€

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Btw nosh u down for vamp sometime

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There's like actually no one to play w ;-;

quaint karma
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i told bill id play today

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when its on in like 4h

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But idk

next latch
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Boot up pc dawg

unborn token
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I also don't r5 regularly anymore

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raven hull
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reformed is like an f1 driver, its all excuses

next latch
raven hull
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next latch
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Not like I just admitted I don't grind

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As much

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Braindead evaluation

next latch
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Logical u mean get ur azz on r5 we pley now

unborn token
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Nah

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Finishing the zer0 vid

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šŸ—£ļø

next latch
unborn token
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I already do that

raven hull
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Around your neck

raven hull
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When you climbed the tree

next latch
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And a chair

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Wait

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Subhuman dog

next latch
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No

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No

next latch
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The new battle pass u saw? @unborn token

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raven hull
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Assuming nothing will be done in the few coming months

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Abt cheaters n so on

next latch
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Or switch to rolla

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🄶

raven hull
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you gonna let swdn get pred and you quit without getting pred

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thats a bitch ass move

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Cba to learn a new input so I can have

raven hull
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where the passion

unborn token
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The exact same experience

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With better close tange

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Range

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next latch
unborn token
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We've both Ben top 750 leader before without getting ss first weeks of season

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Idrc

next latch
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Cheaters killing through the map nd shi

quaint karma
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i mean cheaters are less than last season

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theyve clearly done something

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its just hard

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or last split

raven hull
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hmm maybe i should play then

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last split was just hell after we hit diamond, swdn being d2 at the time and that was putting us in full pred lobbies or full cheater lobbies it was just pure pain.

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not to mention i was playing as if id been recently lobotomized didnt help.

quaint karma
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depends on your teammates

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frankly i dont think youre master level for current split

raven hull
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i dont think ive ever been master level

quaint karma
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but a lot of people that arent at that level still get it

raven hull
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ngl

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valid

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i just need to shadow someone when i play so build game sense, because half the time i have no fucking clue whats happening or what i should do

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infact way more than half the time

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like 80%

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problem last split is i was trying to do that with swdn...when he was playing rev...so i was just putting myself in shit situations that rev can get out of but i cant.

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probably should have just stuck with you all game instead of inting my face off following him

quaint karma
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playing with better players is probably the best way to get better

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also playing solo

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(which i never do)

raven hull
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solo kills my drive to play

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i cant do it

quaint karma
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playing no comms is sorta kinda like playing solo

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next best option

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šŸ’€

raven hull
indigo ruin
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i dont rush anyone unless ive cracked them already and i got my team with me. so many times i crack 1 or 2 and rush and find my team ran the other way tho lol thats really annoying

unborn token
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That works

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But not too much for apex

mental ridge
arctic violet
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and half of people are being hard boosted for sure or either soft cheat

mental ridge
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om controller nyaDevil

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but a mnk multi master is way more desirable change my mind

mental ridge
arctic violet
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delusional people with 4k+ hours thinking themselves as god and they still suck, u lose 1 game and they quit

sharp ice
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ok wait if theyd make the bp w coins tho

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itd be chill

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like make it 650 coins

indigo ruin
mental ridge
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like one dude left me and a mate b4 a game was fully over coz we died i waited for the results and i hatd like 50% more dmg than him lmao (a few kills and 1800 dmg)

indigo ruin
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was val then overwatch and now im addicted to apex

mental ridge
wintry cypress
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Yea its too late šŸ˜‚

main merlin
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The trick to lfg is finding people who don't rage if you lose off drop in a 50/50

severe canyon
mental ridge
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oh algs is in germany shall i go there and get my razer viper v3 pro signed by zer0?

compact oracle
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Lan meetup mhm

sharp ice
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yo wtf

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did they nerf movement or is 16 10 just appearing slower

wintry cypress
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Maybe ur fov got reduced?

sharp ice
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its all so clunku

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and now im getting bagged by roler players hell yeah

warped lake
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bro what is up with everyone

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spamming havoc or flatline every chance they get in r5

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my god it's so annoying

sharp ice
warped lake
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doesn't mean we gotta be weirdos 😭

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i just want a normal slideout 1v1

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not someone who's gonna sit on headies spamming their secondary

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or play cover

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just WEIRD

cobalt ledge
warped lake
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ah i just seen u in r5

cobalt ledge
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been ass, yes

sharp ice
cobalt ledge
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had some terrible runs these last two days, but I am not very good either way. any help much appreciated

warped lake
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i can't offer much advice since i don't play mnk anymore

cobalt ledge
warped lake
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but i can wish you great luck on your journey

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there's a reason i don't touch that input anymore

sharp ice
warped lake
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here's my controller accuracy

sharp ice
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3 stack roler players + 3stack console in my fucking control lobby

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what the fuck man

warped lake
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this is one season worth of controller and 22 hours on r5

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never touched a controller before that

sharp ice
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crazy

warped lake
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my point is

sharp ice
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hows ur strafing

warped lake
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mnk SUCKS

cobalt ledge
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last controller game i played was cod4, ye im old

warped lake
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my strafe is alright

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i'm really good at mirroring

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so i barely use my right stick

sharp ice
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atp i should also swap to roler my scrollwheel broken

sharp ice
warped lake
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LOLLL

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i'll send a couple clips

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do these embed

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nice

mental ridge
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@unborn token

ocean flame
warped lake
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yeah

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i do both

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but it 's nice when my fingers are tired

weary ridge
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weird habit but you seem to track them but dont actually aim at them

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its like youre tracking what direction but not actually on the wraith

mental ridge
weary ridge
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but there are moments where in a 10-20m fight he would ads then not ads again

frail kiln
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how is Future not in PL

mental ridge
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to keep strafespeed up

weary ridge
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oh i see what u mean now

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that would be effective too

twilit flicker
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u should ads as little as u can

weary ridge
weary ridge
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funnily when he anti mirrors his opponent his aim is super clean

frail kiln
weary ridge
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no way he doesnt make PL eventually

frail kiln
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I really don't mean anything by it

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but I watched his team play

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and it just seems like

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a massive waste of time

unborn token
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Dom2cracked is just bad

next latch
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REFORMED

unborn token
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Everytime I've seen that mf post Abt their results is always magically never his fault

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@next latch I had a roller sub in for me and I out damaged still

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Even tho I played half blind and amputated

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Real

next latch
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i come randomly to chat and the first thing i see

unborn token
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BRO

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DOM2CRACKED

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POSTS ON TWITTER ABT CC

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AND ITS LIKE

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" WE GOT GRIEFED 0 BEACON NO HEALS ALSO GOT GRIEFED WOULDVE QUALED BUT GOT GRIEFED MADE 0 MISTAKES ONLY GOT GRIEFED"

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LIKE JUST TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ONCE MF HOLY FUCK

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It's always just every other team against him not wanting him to succeed

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Instead of being like

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Yeah we just played bad gg

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We do better

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šŸ—£ļøšŸ’ÆšŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„

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its called mega cope

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Next cc will be like

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snorting lines worth of copium

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" I actually played on 1 hour of sleep had my finger cut somehow some team wanted to grief us and took half our poi got surprised con didn't qual "

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come vc lets play roblox

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@unborn token

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I choked 2 nova runs on patstrafe

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I hate this meme.

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@random thistle hangyrself

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frail kiln
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devout tusk
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It is inevitable

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Were you on r5 earlier

weary ridge
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WTF

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i am cooking rn

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first time ive peaked 40 in r5

toxic magnet
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LMAOOOOOOOO ZEDDO JUST GOT SENT 100K BY ALGS

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THEY FUCKED UP BAD

weary ridge
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wtf

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why

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why cant this happen to regular ppl fr

toxic magnet
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i think it was meant for Zer0

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for winning pro league split 1

weary ridge
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can i pretty please have 100k misplaced money too šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘ˆ

toxic magnet
weary ridge
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LMAO

toxic magnet
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hes living good

weary ridge
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gg

wintry cypress
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Would b cool

weary ridge
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i thought it was the 10th

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would love just a teeny weeny bit of that trillion

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weary ridge
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just telling the facts šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

cobalt ledge
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@mental ridge @weary ridge thanks for the feedback. so atm im hipfiring too much?

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also when you mirror strafe its like your aim turns off

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i tend to do it too but you underaim way too often when you mirror strafe ur opponent

brazen stream
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Real quick, is there a short 10-15 minute warm up routine specific to Apex? Not trynna do a full hour ATM.

devout tusk
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Yeah play controlsphere for 15 minutes

dull falcon
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Unprovoked hate fr SpongeDance

warped lake
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caught some guy i played with getting boosted by cheaters in ranked

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died to his team but i killed him at least šŸ˜‚

dull falcon
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Console drones keep thinking you need a 2k $ pc to play apex

frail kiln
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I am hating I wont even lie but he's not good and from what I watched he's legit holding Future back

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all good though

frail kiln
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ye

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Idk know his mechanics are lackluster compared to future

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What does dom do igl?

lapis moat
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yea hes igl

lapis moat
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Mav too

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forgot about him

lapis moat
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meanwhile over in EU swinnie picked up feuda and now they are doing well

frail kiln
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he who shall not be named also worthy :\

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NA is allergic to MnK all good

dull falcon
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Are there any good non Pl igls on mnk?

frail kiln
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Teqington?

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He has eyes for good players tho

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Endthismisery šŸ’”

warped lake
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dull falcon
rose wraith
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Hit diamond again

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Good patch

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Lifeline still busted

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Havoc not nerfed enough

dull falcon
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šŸ‘

visual bluff
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honestly kinda like everything being shit
higher ttk feels good to me

dull falcon
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mhm ig guess

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they should just put havoc to 17 per shot nothing else

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it's the old dmg with turbo

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it was still good

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the lifeline meta is what's keeping the havoc in meta tbh

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early red on like

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70% of the teams in your lobby

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people run the havoc just so that one clips are still possible

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smgs aren't getting good one clip potential rn with so many lifelines

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so ig i agree the havoc could use a 1 dmg nerf lol

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Ppl run havoc cause its the 2nd highest dps gun in the game, most damage in a magazine for ars, and fast proj speed

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Its just op

lapis moat
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think of it as what acc you need to 1clip someone

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also dont forget assault bins makes getting turbo easier

lapis moat
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there's a reason why all smgs suck with burst meta + disruptor on PK

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they very obviously know it

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yea very true

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plus the bang changes

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where still no AA on smoke but highlights are a thing
if AA was balanced they would give AA in smoke if u can see the highlight

lapis moat
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imagine it was like S7 and they announced they are adding disruptors to PK everyone wouldve said thats stupid power creep

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yeaaaaaa

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they should just nuke aimpunch from the game

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would help mnk so much
nobody would cry about it

lapis moat
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just either add ibmm or turn it down to 0.25

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they wont add ibmm

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1000% they wont add it
they sacrifice so much for fast queue times
meaning they have data that says long q=very bad
ibmm would hurt queue times so much

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lots of mnk players say they wont care but i think some of them would dislike the long queue

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plus it hurts roller queue times as well

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so they just wont do it

lapis moat
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yea true

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i rather they revert sbmm

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s17 literally killed pubs and people just forgot that happened

visual bluff
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i dont play pubs so

lapis moat
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i would if it was old sbmm

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how was it different

lapis moat
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i went from like 8kdr to 3.5 in like 1 season cuz of sbmm changes

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it got way harder

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people died so much faster getting a 4k 20 in pubs now is legitimately difficult + insane luck required

visual bluff
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oh dang
kinda related but
i think lowkey the game needs bot lobbies
like actual bots not bad players
i have seen really casual players that just cant get a single kill and quit cuz they dont have the shooter expierence to really even start in apex

lapis moat
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apex is wayyyy too hard to get into and the sbmm only makes it worse

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i can't even imagine the gameplay exp for an actual gold mnk player

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if someone has under a certain kd or whatever stat you want to use
they can get in bot lobbies

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yea exactly
or maybe like someone who is valorant ranked silver trying apex for the first time

lapis moat
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i have an irl that i play with sometimes and its just a pain in the ass for the both of us every time unless we play ranked

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like i cant play pubs or mixtape with her cuz even on my smurfs the sbmm is fucked

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ranked is like OK cuz it's actually easy and I can perma run people over

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but in a good game it should be the opposite

visual bluff
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in the same boat
i have a friend and she just doesnt have fun like at all if i play with her
cuz either i carry and she doesnt get kills or i cant carry and she doesnt get kills

lapis moat
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smurfing isn't actually good (even if it's fun) but it's legit the only way I can play apex with her that isn't gigaunfun

visual bluff
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yea
idk i try to just like do dumb stuff
like do p20 only
it helps a bit

lapis moat
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depends on rank I start trying a lil harder in plat

sharp ice
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doki have u noticed sbmm being the samw

lapis moat
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but even plat now is soooo much easier than the pubs I get

sharp ice
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i wonder did they make it mac adress dependant or nah

lapis moat
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we dont actually play enough get anywhere

lapis moat
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ohhh u mean accounts?

sharp ice
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ye

lapis moat
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nah probably not hardware addresses or whatever I bet it's just profile stats

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if anything

sharp ice
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i mean is the mm the same on diff accounts or just bad enough

sharp ice
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i still dont get why ranked is easier than mixtape

lapis moat
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like it's gonna see 1k avg damage and instantly put me in hell lobbies

sharp ice
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at least for me

lapis moat
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cuz they added the sbmm to mixtape too

sharp ice
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what the fuck is that stupid ass decision xd

lapis moat
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getting a 4K in control is actually kinda hard now when before 4K in control is pisslow bad

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tbh i dont think there is way they could do it where playrs of really high skill diff can have fun together

lapis moat
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i had a couple 8K damage games in old control

sharp ice
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ye i dont think ive gotten over 16 kills in controll

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past month

lapis moat
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ye i had 8K 50 kills

visual bluff
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play NA at 6am and u can do anything
queue takes like 20 minutes tho

sharp ice
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prolly not in sbmm tho right

lapis moat
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it was so much easier and i wasn't even that good back then

visual bluff
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u will get in lobbies with ppl who dont know anything

sharp ice
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but ig youre better than 99% of the playerbase arent you

lapis moat
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but a secret tip is basically quit for a week

sharp ice
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hahahaha

lapis moat
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come back your first game is guaranteed to be a bot lobby

visual bluff
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yea a lot of games do that
to try and hook u in

lapis moat
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happened to me once couldn't believe what I was playing

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it was so easy it wasn't even fun

sharp ice
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thats so stupid

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im actually only playing controller players or stimmers now

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in mixtape

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who wants to sweat in mixtape why

lapis moat
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oh yea same im barely top damage in my mixtape games

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cuz they put roller preds in mine

sharp ice
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šŸ’€

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they should fr have bot lobbies tho
really casual players not having a good time either
if the bots were a bit better i think it would help new players a ton
not just in the orientation matches like if someone isnt getting better keep them in bot lobbies
if someone has no shooter expierence getting into apex is like impossible
while like OW or val it is

lapis moat
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i think "bots" could've done OK in old pubs

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pre sbmm changes its probably like 5x more fun for them

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why
how does tighter sbmm hurt them

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i tihnk its just that skill gap is too much

lapis moat
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cuz apex has really bad sbmm

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lets say ur a causal bot in ur bot lobbies

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u win a game -> next game ur instantly in high sbmm lobbies -> u have 0 fun

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ye ik

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lapis moat
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basically skill distribution is a bell curve

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like casual players who say they get a win then just get ass fucked

lapis moat
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apex's sbmm only helps the absolute lowest skill part of the curve

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if you are average you are gonna be stuck in the win in bot lobby -> die in high sbmm lobby -> repeat loop

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if you are good you are forced to perma sweat for like a 8 kill win which isn't satisfying

visual bluff
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yea that really lines up with complaints i see a lot from reddit and stuff

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feel bad for my pubstomper friends cuz their whole content pipeline got nuked with these changes

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what are they supposed to do now basically

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i think the matchmaking just has too more recency bias
also low key i think they fucked up so bad with the one season where 20% got master
cuz ppl get shit on and they are like "WHY ARE THERE MASTERS IN MY LOBBY"
but those ppl arent actually good

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i dont really look at any of that stuff

lapis moat
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also notice how people loved 3 strikes at first (it didn't have SBMM)

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soft sbmm u mean

lapis moat
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it wasn't as hard for sure

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it had some for sure

lapis moat
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I think it did get slightly harder later?

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definitely did but still, it was better than reg pubs

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yea for sure
it was just more fun too
more fighting less looting

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ye so they keep nerfing "roller guns"

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and buffing "mnk guns"

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but the game literally just gets worse to play

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the only like good change they've made this whole time is basically taking mag away from wingman

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now that's something i can get behind

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wait whoops

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pretty sure the games gonna fkin die next season

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wrong reply

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welp

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it wouldnt die but its not good for the game

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ye roller is better for all guns but notice how every gun in the meta has lower aim requirements compared to smg meta

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they are forcefully closing the gap between mnk and roller and making the game garbage to play doing so

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i still dont know why they dont get remove flinch/aimpunch
it hurts mnk a lot and nobody would complain if it was gone
its like a free way to help mnk without nerfing AA

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nobody would be mad

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flinch/aimpunch has SOME value gameplay wise

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its there to punish you being on flesh

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CS does the same thing

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yea but it doesnt need to be as strong

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it has value but it hurts mnk so much more then roller
they could fix that without people complaining a lot
even if it was still around but less bad

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it just seems weird cuz they do all this stuff to try and help mnk without nerfing AA

lapis moat
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if ur gonna change the gun meta so much and balance characters to try and give mnk something
why not make the flinch changes too

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hemlok too that shit is probably easier on mnk honestly

lapis moat
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forget input this game is dogshit right now no matter the input

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idk man i think visual clutter might be worse than aim punch for mnk

lapis moat
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i can be koyful aim and hit 55% acc every r5 round, get on apex and still not have any fun

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i dont think burst guns are actually that good for mnk
cuz like close range roller reaction is op if someone changes direction mid burst

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burst guns are a little better for mnk compared to full auto

frail kiln
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I really like having Volt as the best SMG PepeHands

lapis moat
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with every gun you should be tracking by default basically (good aim strategy)

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and burst guns requires less time on target -> easier

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the "hard" part is from people shitting their pants mid fight and shooting as fast as possible

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ranked is 5 out of 6 games cheaters (unironically)

lapis moat
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meaning even if they aren't on target they still shoot and cost of missing is higher on burst guns

lapis moat
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its insane

frail kiln
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doki is spitting right now

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but I think they like the state of burst weapons

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too much

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if i play ranked ie

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i don't mind burst meta to be fair like nemesis isn't that bad

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hemlok is just too good, prowler is also still fair

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singapore

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a lot of this is just preferable to what we had with 3030 meta

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ngl

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that was aids

lapis moat
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3030 meta was aids but better than havoc meta

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cuz at least 3030 was kinda shit close range

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havoc is the best gun in the game legit every range

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i perfer the havoc meta honestly

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close range havoc on roller : D

lapis moat
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people also dont realize how busted senti is

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cuz i can run pk on newcastle
and not have shit range

lapis moat
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charged senti should not be in the game

frail kiln
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Senti is genuinely insane

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look what Timmy is doing

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just eating another teams meds

lapis moat
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imagine conning off drop and they get a senti it's literally instantly over if they charge it

frail kiln
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for FREE

lapis moat
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1 headshot and you lose the con

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1 bodyshot and they would probably instantly swing off that

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and u spawn with 2 cells

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which u get 2

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its 88 to body when charged(?)

lapis moat
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ye

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thats insane

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yea senti off spawn is nuts

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senti is unironically better than kraber even late game

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hot take

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how tho

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i dont know if i agree or not

lapis moat
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better sustain basically

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frail kiln
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Senti is proof snipers are like impossible to balance in most FPS

lapis moat
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sustain used to be a more important concept when wingman was on heavy

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yea i gues the krab has limited shots and fire rate issues

lapis moat
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because that was the reason why it's busted

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u can run 2 stacks of heavy on a wingman and last the entire game

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one stack in ranked

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if ppl had heavy in boxes

lapis moat
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now with senti you can do the same maybe even with 1 stack

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and you get much better firerate and way more bullets with a senti compared to a kraber

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bang 1 stack 37 bullets yep

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1 stack shield cells - 20 + charged shots

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there was also the short time where gold armor was still in the game and u can charge ur senti perma

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with 0 cells

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Doki change list:
Nerf Havoc
Nerf Sentinel
Nerf Burst AR's

Buff:
?

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here's my list basically

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give the 301, r99 and car back the +1 damage they lost

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maybe we would start to see other loadouts than just Volt/Havoc & hemlock

frail kiln
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301 lost damage?

lapis moat
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revert all r9/car nerfs and swap the damage stats, r9 should have highest DPS at all times

revert 301 nerfs

-1 damage on havoc at least
-1 damage on hemlok

make senti take 1 batt to charge

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I started playing s18

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so as long as I can remember r301 is kinda shit

raven hull
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: D

frail kiln
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its genuinely the most fun gun to play

sharp ice
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but its complete shit

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lapis moat
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yea maybe a batt is too much

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2 cells is good

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AA nerf to 0.25/0.3

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0.3 is the same lmAO

lapis moat
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i want 0.15 but that's too much most likely

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if it was a bat it would have to not naturally decay charge

frail kiln
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CAR should never do more DPS than r9

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when it's much easier to get attachments and ammo

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r9 must be on top

visual bluff
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.3 and reduce flinch a bit
reduce muzzle flash and particles from missed bullets a little too
roller would still be better but not by sooooooooooo much

sharp ice
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thats my understanding tho

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ive tested .6 .4 .25 .2 .15 no aa also i think .25 is the "fairest"

frail kiln
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thats fair

lapis moat
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CAR used to be meta over the r9 because it had higher DPS (which sucks)

sharp ice
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volt has prolly the easiest recoil out of any gun rn and best smg dmg wise as well

frail kiln
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it's OK for volt to not have the highest DPS because it has the best recoil

sharp ice
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ye

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and best range

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or the smgs

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frail kiln
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probably true

sharp ice
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car is just a master of none

lapis moat
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best recoil best range in exchange for not highest DPS + harder to find ammo

sharp ice
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volt is so sick tho

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best hipfire acc

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just feels so nice to use and 1v1 with

lapis moat
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prowler has better hipfire

sharp ice
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r9 rn feels like it tickles

frail kiln
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actual strafe aim occurs

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sharp ice
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on purp laser you don't need to ADS on prowler

sharp ice
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they still have aa and they have nowhere to go

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@lapis moat do you think MNK players are trolling not running prowler

lapis moat
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ye then why would they stay at 0.15 getting fkd by mnk

frail kiln
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or at least trying to learn it?

lapis moat
frail kiln
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prowler hipfire is genuinely a laserbeam

lapis moat
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if u have a SMG in ur inventory your goal is to swap it out asap

sharp ice
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surely they try to improve

lapis moat
sharp ice
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damn

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am i stuck in 2021

raven hull
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surely

raven hull
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you doubt how bad these people are

sharp ice
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the fuck do you mean .6 isnt enough ahhahagahshajshhaja

lapis moat
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bro said 2021 like playing video games to improve didn't die after 2015

frail kiln
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vi where are you from lol

sharp ice
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okay

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trust me

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like 90% of the playerbase

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is old men

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thats same w me