apex

[frail kiln]

name and shame em Doki

I think Alb was genuinely good on MnK and I don't care who knows

[lapis moat]

idk everyone was just kinda shit back then

[next latch]

its funny watching ppl cope r5 isnt good for mech improvement like

[lapis moat]

no particulars

[sinful thistle]

serious did better than hardecki in 1v1 tourney

never forget

[frail kiln]

serious?

[quaint karma]

vf serious

[sinful thistle]

ye he played in an apex 1v1 tourney

[frail kiln]

he played Apex 1v1?

shiet I wanna see that

[lapis moat]

yea it was a old range tourney

[sinful thistle]

goats

gdolph hosted it

[lapis moat]

its crazy how bad people were back then, sam honestly had a huge impact on mnks in the game

still remember when he got turboflamed for saying old SEN had bad fundamentals and got cooked for it despite being obviously right

[quaint karma]

💀 💀

i remember the reddit thread

[sinful thistle]

he was right but he also wasn't actually good at lg or apex iirc

[lapis moat]

ill always be a crust fanboy no matter how washed he gets

[sinful thistle]

i think he got the bag and dipped

[lapis moat]

wasnt he coaching furia

for mechs or something

i know he coached wattson for sure

[sinful thistle]

ye probably but i doubt they listened

[quaint karma]

he also coached urban

[lapis moat]

ye urban and wattson

[quaint karma]

anyone here going to lan

[lapis moat]

and then for a while they were the best in their region respectively

[quaint karma]

its 45m from me

lmao

[lapis moat]

crazy how that works

[sinful thistle]

no way can u call urban the best in eu at any time

[quaint karma]

we doing griddy house

[lapis moat]

was urban not best mechs EU for a little bit?

[quaint karma]

but idk how many people fit

were almost up to 10 i think

[sinful thistle]

not close imo

[lapis moat]

damn

[quaint karma]

🗣️

[sinful thistle]

sirdel better than urban

[next latch]

wheres the next lan any1 know

[quaint karma]

mannheim germany

bit of an odd place to pick but im not complaining

thought it would be cologne or something

[lapis moat]

still waiting on that japan lan respawn really does not care for the region lmao

[quaint karma]

ive been there once

just once

[sinful thistle]

im going to cologne for cs

[quaint karma]

thought thats where it would be

what

wrong message

[quaint karma]

thought thats where it would be

[quaint karma]

i was there for gamescom like

15 years ago or some shit

[sinful thistle]

how old are you

[quaint karma]

29

turning 30 in exactly a month

[sinful thistle]

uncle nosh

[quaint karma]

🥶

[lapis moat]

wait legends is running vantage for real

i thought they were trolling

[quaint karma]

scrims?

[lapis moat]

ye

[quaint karma]

you know i thought my mechanics would decline

but im better than ever

also as much controversy as drdisrespect is mired in

mf is 42 or something

and still really good at games

yeah

[dull falcon]

nosh if you had to rate like 1 round of tdms based on kdr what what you say is bad avarage above avg good and really good

[quaint karma]

wym

how do you know your kd

in tdm

[dull falcon]

1v1s

not tdms

[quaint karma]

anything above 2 is fine

yeah

i usually jsut look at my acc anyways

[dull falcon]

where to see this

only like 3 good people on rn i think

[quaint karma]

https://r5r.dev/leaderboard.php

type your name into the searchbar here

[lapis moat]

my games on jp arent counting on the leaderboard its so aids

i need to pad my stats mna

[quaint karma]

all ill say is

i dont think playing just r5 is sufficient for getting good outside of like close range

for controller

[lapis moat]

oh nah rollers need to grind mid-long range

[dull falcon]

cjracked and l;ike someone else

[quaint karma]

yeah

[lapis moat]

even more than mnks

and mnks already need to grind it too

[dull falcon]

med range isnt super hard

[quaint karma]

unless your hal

in which case you just pick up roller and are immediately good

i guess

youre*

[dull falcon]

hal is like the best worse player ive seen

like him on r5 hes like good but mid but ill see him in game im like bro why arent u missing

[quaint karma]

luckily theres so many tools now

[quaint karma]

people dont usually strafe like in r5

requires a lot of reading that isnt necessary in game imo

for controller anyways

yeah

[dull falcon]

was like at 300 or something on mnk

or was it 200 something

[quaint karma]

also idk if anyone realizes this but r5 has a vert nade aimtrainer

been meaning to use it

[quaint karma]

40+ acc will mean youre the goat close range

[dull falcon]

arenas vert nade line ups

[quaint karma]

everything else youll have to work on tho

[frail kiln]

Aw hell nah I just looked my my R5 stats

[dull falcon]

now i know what i should aim for

[frail kiln]

I'm like double negative against controller

[dull falcon]

its def been going up

[quaint karma]

wait what

[dull falcon]

sick

[quaint karma]

i played with strafing and zeddo once in one of hollows custom games

like more than a year ago

they were both on my squad also

did not know who strafing was at the time

what even are you laying there

[dull falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/glaze-gif-8311813170669205912

[quaint karma]

also why is your about me in korean

why did i think you were swedish

am i tripping

which one

[dull falcon]

Only good skin

[quaint karma]

korean?

[frail kiln]

taking pictures of your damn screen

[quaint karma]

makes sense

[frail kiln]

controller players just forget how to use computers

[quaint karma]

i was learning korean like 7 years ago

for a couple months

forgot everything tho

ngl

[frail kiln]

byungshin

[quaint karma]

i can sorta kinda read hangul still but not really

yeah its neat

[dull falcon]

eh how far is good enough for recoil control practice ( i usually do like 150 metres

[quaint karma]

standing still?

150 is enough

[dull falcon]

yeah standing still

[quaint karma]

sorta

you can be decent

but you actually gotta have recoil control down to be great

[dull falcon]

I cant use 2x and up

[quaint karma]

and nemesis feels significantly harder than hemlok recoil wise\

on mnk i wouldnt evne notice

neither guns move

played pubg for like 10h when it released

too long ago lol

idk i wasnt thinking about recoil when i palyed the game back then

didnt even know what was going on

how did lou get good at roller

he doesnt even practice, does he?

the gamer gene i guess

alb was doihng that up until recently

when he finally stayed

on the superior input

does he seem like the kinda guy to practice?

he doesnt to me

yeah

like lou is for sure dedicated

but doesnt he literlaly just grind ranked

idk

he never practiced in the past either

thats why his aim was so shaky

you know who needs some practice?

monsoon

mf needsd to get his ass on r5 and kovaaks

get rid of that shake

[dull falcon]

Pc froze and restarts again

Might be a hardware thing at this point

[lapis moat]

he would be so much better if he improved fundamentals

and hes already very good

idk why people just dont do that

[dull falcon]

show me what u mean by that

i hear this so much \

but any time i watched him he was sniping

[dull falcon]

thats not normal

[warped lake]

any 3v3 servers that anyone can dm me

[devout tusk]

its happening

[vague nexus]

Now everyone has a digi by default

[indigo ruin]

What else can cause this besides bloodhound I have t played in a while just got back into the game over.the weekend and was wondering why I could see this team thru the wall without a bloodhound on my team

[vague nexus]

They gave white outlines for everyone if you are close enough to the smoke

Also bloodhound cant see trough smoke

[indigo ruin]

Ahh okay

[indigo ruin]

Says the same thing for me

Who's a good apex YouTuber besides his wattson that doesn't play on controller

I end up turning 80% of apex video off after being like "damn that's some fire aim" and then realizing they are on controller when they open a death box

[wintry cypress]

soar hollow and lamic999

i usually like watching those guys

on the rare occasion that i watch an apex vid

other than that i watch Zeus as well since hes entertaining but hes on roller

[indigo ruin]

Thanks. I love wattson I just watch him a lot. Gotta watch some new ppl lol

[wintry cypress]

only thing is hollow doesnt upload frequently lol

one week he'll upload 3 vids the next 2 months he wont upload anything xD

but he streams as well if u wanna watch that

[indigo ruin]

True I'll check him out. As long as he doesn't play like faide cuz I won't learn anything cuz I will never learn how to do all that crazy movement lol

[wintry cypress]

i mean he uses movement but hes more about aim and positioning etc, he also has a couple vids where he does education gameplay where he explains his thought process a bit

[indigo ruin]

I can super glide semi consistent that's literally it tho lol

I've tried learning wall bounces but Everytime I go for it in game my guy just face plants the wall and I die lol

[raven hull]

holy that shake, its like hes reacting to every single frame lol

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDaz0iR6c1pHFDp1vfOkgmKfh_KVdVyxg?si=bU-8YKQM7AJWGJgx

[wintry cypress]

how tf is that even possible 😭

[indigo ruin]

Why I don't ever play pubs lol

[mental ridge]

u dont look at button prompts?

[mental ridge]

idk hollows aim looks so mid on stream ?!

[wintry cypress]

fr

bro is definitely cheating

i seen it with my own eyes!

[indigo ruin]

i have them on. theres an option to turn them off and alot of ppl have them off

[mental ridge]

zeus is just the goat idc hes on roller he out rollers most rollers anyways hed be fine with nerfed aimassist

[mental ridge]

huh nobody turns them of u wanna see if youre in deathbox range etc

[indigo ruin]

idk why they dont just nerf that shit and make crossplay pubs only. rollers wont complain cuz everyone else is nerfed and PC players wont complain other PC players plugging controllers in. make everyone happy

[sonic marlin]

Pc players complain about anyone that plugs in a controller

[mental ridge]

no need to nerf aimassist lol just make ibmm matchmaking and nerf aimassist only in mnk lobbies for people who crossplay

[sonic marlin]

Ibmm I'm so down for

[indigo ruin]

they would have nothing to complain about if it was nerfed tho lol aim assist in overwatch is fine and roller players on that sub dont cry that its not good enough

[woeful garnet]

Rollers will complain

[mental ridge]

i watched gen play ranked without aimassist that was realy interesting to watch

[sonic marlin]

Have you got a link to this I want to watch it lol

[woeful garnet]

Like 90% of the playerbase is casual and if they start missing all their shots cause of nerfed aa theyre gonna complain

[indigo ruin]

i miss all my shots because i suck

[mental ridge]

just go on Google genburton disabled aimassist

[woeful garnet]

Turning button hints off doesnt make it so u cant see when u can open deathboxes

[sonic marlin]

Get gud

[mental ridge]

yeah input locked matchmaking and let pc rollers chose between low aimassist pc lobbies or console lobbies

[woeful garnet]

Then casual controller players would complain about playing with mnk friends

[mental ridge]

im on mnk i need it to tell me wich button i need to press

[indigo ruin]

the new benchmark snenario frogshots feels like sniping heads in apex kinda

[mental ridge]

who cares they can play witz controller only friends or accept that aimassist is brocke

[indigo ruin]

i like it

[sonic marlin]

Tf is frogshots

[woeful garnet]

Just makes 0 sense for respawn to actually do that

Theyd get backlash right away

Ibmm it self is fine

You can choose to queue on any input or locked input

[sonic marlin]

If they implement it like xdefiant then it's fine

You can have ibmm on or off

But if a friend on a different input joins it automatically disables it

[woeful garnet]

Yeah thats all they need to do

Just dont do the nerf aa shit

[indigo ruin]

S3 benchmark scenario

[mental ridge]

and then queue times on mnk only are like 5 mins

mnk is a minority and not every mnk player will play mnk only lobbies

[sonic marlin]

Oh it's aimlabs

[indigo ruin]

yeah the benchmarks just come out a few days ago. they are really hard compared to the last ones imo

im just not used to these tasks i gotta grind

[woeful garnet]

Well shucks

What can be done

[sonic marlin]

I'll try them when I get back

[woeful garnet]

Either respawn loses players from nerfing aa or mnk only lobbies that take 5 minute queues

[mental ridge]

thats why we dont need mnk only lobbies id be fine with balanced aimassist lobbies and controller only lobbies

[mental ridge]

why would a controller player care if in mixed input lobbies there is balanced aimassist ?

[indigo ruin]

S2 i was almost jade. on these ones i still am not plat

[woeful garnet]

pretty sure i already explained this like 2 times already but since ur not reading

90% of the playerbase is casual

people play with friends

controller players playing with mnk friends would feel like shit

are your neurons connecting

[raven hull]

hes talking about the UI button prompt

[mental ridge]

yeah and id go so far and say apex lost the majority of its mnk players probably over 100000 at least

[woeful garnet]

ok well 70% of players are already on controller

do you want to lose a majority of that too

[mental ridge]

if they just post some graphs to back up their aimassist nerf they are fine

[woeful garnet]

casual shitters already think aim assist is weak as it is right now

[mental ridge]

u wont loose shit coz they have their own mnk free lobbies with untouched aimassist

[woeful garnet]

nerfing it would literally make it worse

holy u cant read

im not doing this anymore

[raven hull]

Real af, look at any reels, tiktoks or youtube shorts and you find CONSOLE players saying they cant even feel their aa

mf that aa is doing 60% of the work for you

and you cant feel it

would you feel a crossbow bolt if it went through your torso or not

[woeful garnet]

they dont understand how good they have it

like standing still doing nothing does 60% of the tracking for u already

[mental ridge]

i can u just assume theyll quit coz they cant play with the 1 mnk friend out of 50 without loosing aimassist

like who cares they got 1 less person to play with

[raven hull]

im ashamed to say this but OW2 has a better system for controller players and AA than apex does...

pubs they have AA which is fair enough

but if they are in a PC ranked lobby

they lose AA

that would also straight up kill ximmers as well

as respawn would hard disable AA in ranked so it cant be emulated

but something like that would never be implemented into apex because they let the rollers and AA situation fester beyond control

now they probably have a majority of players on roller in PC lobbies so any adjustments to AA would directly impact their bottom line

we just have to suck it up that this games integrity is long dead and we actually have to improve to marginally compete with a line of code.

[wintry cypress]

even better, stop playing the game 😄

[raven hull]

i have, i bought elden ring last week

[wintry cypress]

hell yeah

[raven hull]

so been playing that and MC with irls

[wintry cypress]

sounds good

[raven hull]

im loving ER

[indigo ruin]

its literally perfect. i only play ranked in overwatch and my entire expiercience ive seen roller players on my team and not once have i heard someone get mad about a roller or keyboard

[raven hull]

i never understood the hype but i do now

[wintry cypress]

yea its fun im playing it with a friend through the coop mod atm

its a lil easy atm

but its early game

literally 3h in

[raven hull]

im like 15 something hours in and ive done maybe 3 main bosses

im just exploring everything

its massive

[wintry cypress]

ive already done 2 😭

my friend just goes up to neutral NPCs and says: ''do we kill them or not''

[raven hull]

wait actually ive done rykard

so 4 main bosses

[raven hull]

"Yes"

[wintry cypress]

i actually barely know the story lmao

i just be playing

i might wanna replay it solo for the story tho idk

[indigo ruin]

we dont see valorant adding controller to PC instead they make a whole new valorant just for console

[raven hull]

yeah they have done it right to start with, apex let it fester too long

[indigo ruin]

we need a game producer to change the game and make a good movement shooter for M+K only.

[raven hull]

theres so many story lines going on, ive missed like 90% of them im pretty sure

[indigo ruin]

if you know how to surf combat surf in CSGO is lit

[wintry cypress]

the finals is nice but it also has aim assist, tbh i dont see any controller players on it but i would just straight up not recommend playing any sort of ranked gamemodes in FPS shooters these days

it just tilts u more than it makes u enjoy the game imo

[indigo ruin]

no bullet spread or ability or nades or nothing just flying around surfing and aim.

[wintry cypress]

i just know there was a girl who gave me a letter to deliver to a king, we met the king, gave her letter to him and my friend told me yeah shes prob dead, so then we killed the king

[indigo ruin]

i would enjoy the finals much more if everyone had the same TTK i dont like playing super defensivly because im on light vs 12 heavies

[wintry cypress]

yeah thats true

[indigo ruin]

how long is a ranked split?

[wintry cypress]

i stil enjoy the game tho, just wish it ran better ☠️

the finals^

[indigo ruin]

true apex runs like butter its just the aa that ruins it

[wintry cypress]

i mean i have performance issues with apex as well

seems more like frame pacing tho

and terrible servers

[indigo ruin]

i have everything on low with high textures

[wintry cypress]

same, im at a locked 165fps constantly but the game still feels choppy as hell

[indigo ruin]

oh yeah rn i have to play london cuz couldnt find game NA

[raven hull]

honestly UK playing on NA isnt even bad, its still better than playing NA Karma servers on R5

Karma 90 ping feels like 300

Retail apex 90 ping is nothing

[wintry cypress]

real

above 100-110 u start to feel it

[wintry cypress]

i think u can just kill any NPC in the game

pretty funny

[raven hull]

you can lol

ive seen people kill the nicest npc's

hurts my soul

i could never

[wintry cypress]

yea same

id always ask do they respawn

or does it affect the story at all

before killing them if they dont affect the story

lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907484009360162846/1257314699523919933/Elden_Ring_2024.07.01_-_01.25.35.12.DVR.mp4?ex=66849dd0&is=66834c50&hm=50a2ff91869a2f3a2df2bba8a28be1534ceb3de99c921c00ddafe47b54320905&

@raven hull

[raven hull]

bro became fire Garen

[wintry cypress]

its so funny u just run around him and he never hits u with the fire

[raven hull]

my godrick fight was a joke because i left just before going in to explore

[wintry cypress]

i got like 26k runes after this fight btw

[raven hull]

and came back with the blasphemous blade

so the fight lasted like 20 seconds

[wintry cypress]

LMAO

im not at that point just yet

i have a big ass staff/spear tho that does a lot of dmg

but i want a sword

[raven hull]

bleed is stupid op, you can get a blood art of war which adds blood type to any weapon

[wintry cypress]

👀

oh i also havent even upgraded any of my weapons yet

[raven hull]

i just randomly came across it while i was clearing a castle

[wintry cypress]

i got like a stance for my sword but it just straight up doesnt work

[raven hull]

tbf i didnt for ages

i didnt realise how big a difference it would actually make

also birds are the spawn of satin himself

fuck birds

[wintry cypress]

tbf me and my friend are clearing stuff very easily atm so i really dont want to yet lol

[wintry cypress]

my friend said they were hard asf to fight and that he was struggling for like 30 mins with them

i beat both of them first try

[raven hull]

i think seamless co-op has scaling, but i dont know if you have to enable it

maybe they are still scaled to a single player?

[wintry cypress]

it does but only 1 boss seemed harder my friend said everything else felt kinda easy

[woeful garnet]

Who put swords on the birds feet is my question

And why

[raven hull]

fr fr

and why it is so hard to target them

[woeful garnet]

deadass

cant even lock on to them without ur camera fucking up

[raven hull]

jump attack a bird it phases through you and your camera spazzes out

repeat 10x

die

mald

try again

repeat

[woeful garnet]

i just ran past them all atp

theyre like endgame bosses

[raven hull]

ong the bosses ive killed so far have been easier than the demi bosses and birds

ive died way more to random trash mobs than i have bosses at this point

or falling off stuff because i have brain damage

[raven hull]

"both"
Bro hasnt run into nests of 7 of the fuckers who stunlock you until you die

[wintry cypress]

nah ive only seen 2 so far

[raven hull]

if you make the mistake of getting hit once and getting staggered

its jover

back to the grace you go

[wintry cypress]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2185902961 03:02:07 @raven hull

my friend said he struggled with this for 1h lol

i beat them like instantly

shield might be OP lol

[raven hull]

i could never feel out the shield

i just 2h everything

fk it we ball

[wintry cypress]

lmao

its so easy for me

blocking is essential in xenoverse

so it just transfers over easy

[raven hull]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2184899000
03:17:00 and beyond is me malding over bats, i have less difficulty with the fking magma wyrm like 10 min later than i did the birds.

fuck birds

hate them

kill them all now

also listening back to that vod i didnt realise how fucked my voice is rn from hayfever

[lusty vault]

Why is bronze hard

[raven hull]

say sike rn

[wintry cypress]

prob cause just got reset

the split

[raven hull]

i mean isnt it only < 3 ranks

[wintry cypress]

those do be bats

[raven hull]

so those players are gold players

[lusty vault]

I come back to this game because I hear good things

I’m getting shit on

It’s me

[raven hull]

they fly

[wintry cypress]

true

[wintry cypress]

i dunno where u heard

but sounds false

[raven hull]

bro got lied to

[devout tusk]

kinda pointless to straight up kill most of the npcs tbh

[wintry cypress]

yeah but its fun

[raven hull]

Hes a psychopath

get this man an unregistered firearm at once

[wintry cypress]

my friend made me do it

[lusty vault]

I mean I think a lot of the changes are cool

Haven’t played quads yet

[wintry cypress]

I NEED A DRACO FR

[devout tusk]

thats what im saying, silver and gold were "hard" late last split too

[wintry cypress]

GONNA BE PART OF A GANG

[devout tusk]

not hard hard but not how silver and gold usually are

[lusty vault]

Yes

I’m used to being reset to bronze and then dropping 30 until plat

I’m dropping 3 rn

[devout tusk]

yea

fucked up world

[lusty vault]

Fucked up eorkd

[devout tusk]

bro is using the jellyfish

[raven hull]

jelly is my ride or die

dont talk shit

[devout tusk]

respect

[raven hull]

i also dont have anything better

[devout tusk]

no way

theres a couple s tier summons in the first 2 regions

[raven hull]

i have wolfs and 3 skelebois

those are my only other ones

[devout tusk]

those are not so good

[raven hull]

i missed the man servant, i could probably go grab that

if its any good

i was being chased so i skipped it

[devout tusk]

idk that one

[raven hull]

from the volcano manor, i think its the eel fella with the lava whip

[devout tusk]

ah idk if thats good but

latenna is in liurnia

oleg is in stormhill i think

they are both quite good

[raven hull]

oh yeah that looks decent

ill add those to the list of things to hunt down this eve

i need to get some better drip

i look like a clown rn

[twilit flicker]

ye focus on drip

ignore resistances

just make sure u arent too heavy

[raven hull]

who needs resistances anyway, just dont get hit

i thinking carian knight armour + Navy hood

[twilit flicker]

what build u running rn

[raven hull]

blasphemous blade

so my build is around that rn

it was around 2h anyway

[twilit flicker]

broken weapon

[raven hull]

so not much changed, i just had to add faith

yeah its a bit silly

[devout tusk]

melonmaxxing

[raven hull]

when you fall asleep on the beach and forget sunscreen looking ah

[devout tusk]

i ran blasph blade too for like half my playthru on this char

fucked up weapon

also sonaf

[raven hull]

goofy ah op weapon

but its fun

[woeful garnet]

just get the mimic tear and the rest of the game is 😴

[devout tusk]

Mimic tear got hard nerfed shit sux now

[woeful garnet]

It does 0 damage but having it still tanks like crazy

It literally trivializes the game

[devout tusk]

Theres tankier sumnons tho unless you are building for the mimic, the mimic ai got lobotomized it just runs in and eats every attack

[woeful garnet]

Is it actually that bad now

I havent touched it for a minute

[devout tusk]

I just did a playthru before dlc and it was straight useless some bosses, if it spammed blasph blade skill it was useful but tiche, rollo and latenna outshined by a lot. i was even fuckin around and trying to support it with heal spells lol

Compared to release mimic its nothing special

Me and rollo ran through malenia in like 30 seconds

[unborn token]

gold elo is real 🗣️

[unborn token]

we need 1 for ranked

[mental ridge]

thats my mozam charm

[indigo ruin]

Sadge😞

[arctic violet]

people talking without any knowledge is so fun

[spark hawk]

10k is crazy its like you dont know what pc components are or what they cost

im not sure how you even spend 10k on a pc

and only get 200fps

[craggy prairie]

i like to think that's just hyperbole

[spark hawk]

ig

couldnt the tweet they replied to as well be

[craggy prairie]

it's very likely. ...but it's twitter so idk

[spark hawk]

bait or ...

but regardless i see this so much from console people

like overestimating how much a pc would cost

and comparing it to a $500 console which sony/microsoft sells at a literal loss just to get you into their ecosystem to pay 60 a year to use online features + more for games

[main merlin]

You have to buy a used gpu if your on budget nowadays though

[spark hawk]

yea

[craggy prairie]

hmm

[spark hawk]

its kinda sad but also id rather not buy an entry level pc in the first place really would rather just stack my bread and buy a decent one that I won't feel the need to upgrade a year later

[craggy prairie]

that's so real.

[raven hull]

unfortunately its not

Console gamers genuinely believe you cant get a good "gaming pc" for under 3-4k

they like to harp on that their 500$ console is better than xxxx$ pc etc

they are clueless

Those people who talk with no knowledge on a subject need to be taken outside into the street and presented with their own personal firing squad

[spark hawk]

pretty sure a 4080 and 7800x3d pc is like $2000 or smth and that stuff is practically top end like doubling the amount of money you spend after that wouldnt net you more than like 10%-20% performance

[main merlin]

The games and peripherals on console cost alot though that's the tradeoff

[raven hull]

dont try and explain that to them though

they wont care to actually listen

funny thing is most of the apex whales ive seen

are console players

[craggy prairie]

oooo mayhaps I should invest in a 4080 7800x3d.

[raven hull]

like okay, what are you proving here you have spent 3k on the game for some pixels

when you could have a pc

[spark hawk]

you need a 14900k a 4090, 8tb of m.2 storage, custom loop liquid cooling

480hz 1440p oled monitor

[raven hull]

[raven hull]

im not even shitting you, someone said something similar and called it "entry level pc"

he was 100% serious as well

[craggy prairie]

"entry level" lol

[arctic violet]

like with 10k u build a top pc with custom water cooling with 540hz monitor

[raven hull]

building a 10k pc is just finding stupidly priced or thing that dont actually make sense

[craggy prairie]

only ppl like Hal and Aceu have pc that powerful that i can name anyway.

[raven hull]

to make up the price

like you cannot build a "normal" pc for 10k

stuff doesnt cost enough

[arctic violet]

not at all

[raven hull]

you have to buy stupid shit like an epyc cpu

or quadro gpus

[arctic violet]

even with a 4090

[craggy prairie]

quad gpu

[spark hawk]

shit not even meant for games

[raven hull]

nah quadro is the type of gpu

exactly

thats my point, they have watched like 1 ltt video

of them doing a desktop made of server hardware

and think thats normal

and build their whole view of pc off that

[arctic violet]

that's how braindead people think

[craggy prairie]

a quadro gpu...?

i'm gonna ask the Google.

[arctic violet]

in every context

[spark hawk]

its not even meant for games

[raven hull]

my pc which is a 5900x, 3090, fully custom water cooled, 6tb of nvme etc was like 3k

[arctic violet]

quadro is the namd of the gpu

[raven hull]

and that was ott

[craggy prairie]

what's so special about it vs other gpu

[arctic violet]

but it's not for gaming😂

[raven hull]

they are computing gpu's they are for rendering and compuation

[craggy prairie]

!

[raven hull]

they cant really play games at all

[craggy prairie]

i see...

[raven hull]

but they are like between 7 and 15k

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprised-gif-25739412

you mean like

dollars?

[raven hull]

yes

[craggy prairie]

fucking what

[raven hull]

they arent inteded for you and me to buy

[indigo ruin]

I didn't make the meme I just laughed at it lol

[spark hawk]

i get it

[craggy prairie]

if i become beeg streamer i will buy the quadro as a flex.

(i wont)

[arctic violet]

me on my way to buy a blackwell gpu for playing apex at 2000fps🗿

[craggy prairie]

christ, man.

[raven hull]

run it windowed at 400x400 and you might be able to

[craggy prairie]

if you manage to one-clip at that setting you've completed apex legends congrats

[raven hull]

yeah, but they are designed for businesses and academics who need vast amounts of computational power or rendering overhead.

[arctic violet]

roblox potato graphics and I'm good 😂

[craggy prairie]

ohhh now that you've brought this up, i think that hiswattson is running one of these things in his pc.

[arctic violet]

yeah big server or rendering machine

[craggy prairie]

the heck?

[raven hull]

VFX houses like weta etc probably have a quadro in every machine

or a rack of them that the rendering is done off

[arctic violet]

bills go crazy with big rack

[raven hull]

are we still talking about pc's

[arctic violet]

who knows..

[raven hull]

https://tenor.com/view/holo-live-marine-ch-gif-26360797

[craggy prairie]

Senchou...

i mean

[raven hull]

dont ban me its a music video plox

[craggy prairie]

i've never seen that waifu a day in my life

[spark hawk]

what the

[woeful garnet]

pocket change

[craggy prairie]

the song that this video goes to is really nice.

[raven hull]

the fact that treasure box was played in malls in japan is hilarious to me

given how overly sexual that song is

[craggy prairie]

fr.

i feel like that song is just Marine showing just how overly hornt she can be

video furthurs it

[raven hull]

her songs slap tho tbh

[woeful garnet]

why is the rtx 8000 so expensive tho

[raven hull]

same with suisei

and kobo

[raven hull]

its not a game gpu

or do you mean mechanically? like what makes it so much better to warrant the price?

answer is probably its a highly specialized bit of kit, and a big tax write off

[craggy prairie]

yeah ik. i have her music on my hard drive. i use them when aim training. i think that her talent really shined in her rendition of Stay With Me. that genre suits her most.

[woeful garnet]

yes mechanically

like no way its that strong right

[raven hull]

i mean is raw computational and rendering power, so a lot of RND went into it, they are very different to the mass produced RTX series of gaming gpus

they do what they were designed to do very well

and again its a big write off for business that buy it

oh no we had to replace 30 machines with quardos

casually wiping several 100's K off your tax

[woeful garnet]

Business expenses

[main merlin]

Nvdia has enterprise level gpus

[craggy prairie]

today i learn something nice about pc parts.

[mental ridge]

he pointed out everything that indicates that aimassist needs to be balanced since its not but still manages to come to a stupid conclusion lmao

[mental ridge]

then u still need peripherals...
and if u go high tier why cheap out on a monitor mouse keyboard or headset/ mic headphone/iem combo

so a oled is 900$ then a wooting us 200$ a good mouse is 100$-200$ a good mouse pad is atleast 50€ a Audio combo is probably atleast 100$ aswell... thats another then u maybe want a monitor arm
and do u even have a good desk that can cost a couple hundred aswell

do u have a decent chair ?

i mean if u work from home all that is multi purpose but still its money u need to have and spend

[craggy prairie]

console players are just better.

[twilit flicker]

u dont need all that shit

just get good

[arctic violet]

fr

[spark hawk]

a good mouse 100-200

LOL

oled 900

LOL

wooting LOL

[craggy prairie]

wooting more like w ting

[spark hawk]

for console you need a $2000 oled 4k tv as well

[craggy prairie]

[spark hawk]

very true

[craggy prairie]

these are levels of meme that i didn't think were possible.

[spark hawk]

but i also need 4 controllers

and a charging dock for all of them

[craggy prairie]

oh yeah...those are a thing.

[spark hawk]

yea i need them

[mental ridge]

yes but im saying uf u dont wanna budget its more than just the pc parts and case

[spark hawk]

you also need to buy it for a console you need a monitor/tv

[mental ridge]

yall miss my point

[spark hawk]

if you dont have it already

[mental ridge]

People often tend to buy expensive tvs anyways to watch their shows

and if they dont have a gaming they can just get a budget monitor

[craggy prairie]

people with a charging dock for a controller: you don't have one?
me with my USB port:

[spark hawk]

you can do this for pc

you dont need

literal top tier things

most people dont even have them

[mental ridge]

@spark hawk @spark hawk @spark hawk

[spark hawk]

yea you dont have a point though

how does that make 10k

we were talking about hoiw a pc could cost 10k

thats why i mentioned that price

peripherals dont make up the rest 8k

[mental ridge]

there 3-4k estimate

fits literally what i just described

thats what i was referring to

[spark hawk]

ye u dont need a wooting, 900 oled, top tier mouse for that

you litearlly dont

[mental ridge]

why do u get a top tier pc then?

[spark hawk]

?

nah im talking to chatgpt

snapchat ai

[arctic violet]

u need that 500€ custom wooting and 400€ finalmouse limited edition to be good🤓

[mental ridge]

are maybe not understanding my point ?

[spark hawk]

you dont have one

!!

[mental ridge]

no youre too ignorant to pay attention to what im writing coz u wanna be right

[spark hawk]

ajjajaj

[mental ridge]

i replied to a message saying a rtx 4080 and a 7800x3d rig costs 2k and i pointed out that if u get such a rig u might aswell want top tier peripherals aswell

[spark hawk]

im assuming you have some mice and keyboards just like you assume you already have a tv

its pointless

like you're fighting ghosts

[mental ridge]

budget on console is cheaper than budget on pc and easier

[spark hawk]

60 a year to use online features

[mental ridge]

in the case of apex u dont need ps plus

[spark hawk]

good point sir

[craggy prairie]

ppl aren't only playing apex though. ...right?

actually, no, nevermind. forget that i said anything.

those ppl exist.

[mental ridge]

i dont play anything else realy

[craggy prairie]

i see

[mental ridge]

valorant is ps plus free aswell

[craggy prairie]

val rant on c ns le.

[mental ridge]

@spark hawk what did u even think my point is? did u really assumed i think that u need a rtx4080/7800x3d rig with oled and top tier peripherals ?
incase thats what u thought no
my point was that if u go high end it would be wierd to half ass it

[spark hawk]

not getting a $900 oled monitor is not half assing it

[mental ridge]

imo a 1440p 240hz/360hz is a reasonable purchase if u wanna go high tier and there isnt realy any competition

[craggy prairie]

idk much about it but wouldn't that zowie monitor with 0 motion blur that pros use be the go to?

benq

[mental ridge]

idk afaik zowie is the goto since its what most tournaments get sponsored to use so i might aswell train on the monitor u use in tournaments

[craggy prairie]

i wish to test the power of the zowie.

[mental ridge]

idk if zowie sponsors teams or so

but i mean they aint bad gaming monitors

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-bocchi-the-rock-ryo-paypal-paypal-me-paypal-me-30000-usd-gif-16429384862507895106

for zowie monitor of course

[unborn token]

legit

[dull falcon]

Low diff by a roller noob is crazzzyyyy

[humble sphinx]

Roller noobs

They are just like me

Using aimbot

[unborn token]

Pretty sure his wattson team8 is also cheating

Or definitely getting boosted

[dull falcon]

I dont watch people after i die its hopeless the game dont do nothing till like 100 plus players are affected. U more likely to get someone with a explicit ign banned before a cheater

[sharp ice]

methed into a pocket is his name btw

[main merlin]

Chinese mouse for 40 bucks go brrr

[unborn token]

apparently its a friend

of some dog we had on our server

that turned out to be cheating

fuck this game honestly

[sharp ice]

lol

[late furnace]

meth

[unborn token]

my favorite

[main merlin]

If you want to get good at 1 game and touch grass you main 1 game

[raven hull]

i never described my pc as entry level tho, im well aware i went above and beyond because i could and ive always liked tinkering and building things myself.

did the water block for my gpu need to be £500 on its own.. no ofc it didnt and if you were building a pc on a budget that wouldnt even be in the conversation. My point was they use examples like my rig as "entry level" or the "bare minimum to be competitive" because they assume everyone else has the same stuff. Meanwhile most apex demons i see are still on 1080p and 144hz

which is not hard to run in the slightest

[indigo ruin]

My PC is mid. 3060. I7 32 gigs of shitty ram. I get 165fps I'm pretty much every game with low graphics and high textures

[raven hull]

you could throw together an old Optiplex and a gpu and be able to get 144fps at 1080p

and that would be at most like £600

[indigo ruin]

I don't see how ppl play 1080 in 2024

That shit legit looks blurry. It's fine on my phone but on my big PC screen it's blurry

[main merlin]

1080p 240hz monitors are cheap now that's why lol

[twilit flicker]

dont need to go higher

ill will play a shit low res anyway

[raven hull]

idk, i couldnt go back to 1080p

you can literally see individual pixels

its quite distracting once you have used a 1440p or 4k

[dull falcon]

When i went back on console i was like nah bro this a powerpoint presentation

Give them aimbot cuz its unplayable

[indigo ruin]

Lol 60 frames do be looking like a slide show. Pretty sure new gen consoles can get 120 fps now tho

[raven hull]

they get 120 now and they barely touched the AA

[main merlin]

Last gen console apex is suffering. It dips below 60 alot too

[main merlin]

It's. 4 if you enable 120 fps

[raven hull]

I might need to fact check but its actually higher

it was just speculation from the community

that it would be 0.4

no numbers where actually given

ive heard its more like 0.5

mind showing me where its been confirmed to be so?

not trying to be an arse, im genuinely curious

ah...so anecdotal

i mean if im wrong then im wrong, i have no reason to die on this hill lol. Im happy to admit im wrong, my main point was no official numbers were given out from respawn.

this is exactly why i doubt its 0.4 as well. They could curry favor with the pc playerbase and the mnk playerbase if they openly said "we lowered it to be more inline with Controller on Pc levels of aim assist"

it would be so free for them to get some brownie points after all the shit they have pulled

but they didnt

maybe thats just me reading into it too much tho

i guess it would also matter the level of skill of the person, the average console player says 0.6 isnt strong enough...

yeah true

we can only speculate

thats a good start then

lol

[twilit flicker]

what kind of predator 🤨 ?

[raven hull]

Dr disrespect kind of the HisWattson kind

ive heard console isnt amazing

9mans and strike packs

or cornus

whatever it is

oooh

yeah the cheating situation from last split as well as the season before was horrible

[twilit flicker]

imo

[raven hull]

ive not played this split, been playing elden ring instead

[twilit flicker]

we should have the chinese system

[raven hull]

i didnt even grind last split but diamond was miserable

[twilit flicker]

it would fix cheaters

[raven hull]

maybe ill just get diamond back this split too but trying to get masters is horrible

[warped lake]

i've just been server hopping

when i run into cheaters

managed d3 so far, so pred should be doable this season

[unborn token]

chinksquad

[sinful thistle]

hi friends

[warped lake]

anyone wanna play pubs

[unborn token]

nah

there is no way

you r defo bottlenecking it

or u have ramp on pisslow speeds

i have the same gpu and ram amount

[warped lake]

there's no way

lmao

[unborn token]

and i get 200+

comfortably

on any game

[warped lake]

i get 300 on low graphic decent textures on a 1080 ti

and a 8700k

[unborn token]

i can even run 4k aaa on 60 fps

[raven hull]

not sure this is the server to be saying that lmao

[unborn token]

bro truly thinks i care

if some random person

gets offended

[raven hull]

thats literally a racial slur

[unborn token]

just bc

[warped lake]

i'm asian

not offended

😂

[unborn token]

see

who care

s

its a word

[warped lake]

it's funny to me

[raven hull]

[unborn token]

if u let it offend

y

thats on me

coz like imagine saying the world turtle and some random just loses his shit

how is that my issue

[raven hull]

mate idc, i was just trying to avoid you being banned lol

[unborn token]

why am i policing my speech to protect others feelings

[raven hull]

[warped lake]

what do you guys use for crosshair

people are suggesting reshade

[raven hull]

i just use a dot

[unborn token]

we have griddy

[raven hull]

ong fr

[warped lake]

which software**

[raven hull]

oh

reshade is good

[narrow swift]

reshade yes yes

[unborn token]

nah but no way yr getting

165 fps

on a 3060

[warped lake]

okay i will use it

[unborn token]

w 32 gigs of ram

literally no way

[warped lake]

i know it's banned on roblox lol

so i didn't know if EAC had it blacklisted

[narrow swift]

😂

[unborn token]

btw quads arent real

we found a team that was ratting

[narrow swift]

its whitlisted or smth on apex so its chill

[unborn token]

all in different places

around the map

[warped lake]

bet

DUDE

[unborn token]

💀

close to each other but

it was weird af

[warped lake]

RAMPART CAUSTIC IN MID ON ESTATES

[unborn token]

dawg

[warped lake]

bro

[unborn token]

it was some random rev fuse team

i double clustered the rev 🗣️

[warped lake]

people are so unreal

[unborn token]

casuals are actually npcs

[narrow swift]

bring back old rev

[warped lake]

i like my current rev with double energy

my control freeks and 4-3 linear

real passion

[narrow swift]

🗣️

[unborn token]

id send a gif

but im getting banned

for it

so

[warped lake]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2186920431?t=5h01m56s

this is what my team and i ran into yesterday

[raven hull]

he looks like he was recently stung by a bee

poor fella

[narrow swift]

just from seeing no xyz on a legend ur alr know its a roller player

[raven hull]

[warped lake]

WAIT

RESHADE CROSSHAIRS ARE INSANE

[raven hull]

hit markers

thats a crime

straight to jail

I agree tho reshade crosshairs are pretty goated

i know some people use the black crosshair launch option and then only use the reshade crosshair

i butchered my description right there but w/e

i got the scarlet rot in my brain

[unborn token]

why are u in here

u r a cheater

literally

no one cares

you literally cheat

does commiting tax fraud make me a criminal or whatever

[raven hull]

No

[unborn token]

they are the same morally

[quaint karma]

yeah it does

[unborn token]

you are a scumbag

regardless

and u have 0 values

[quaint karma]

youre shitting on everyone elses achievments

that they work hard for

like how dare you

genuionely

[unborn token]

just bc you are a sad anti social piece of shit

[quaint karma]

you dont give a fuck about otheres

[unborn token]

with no friends

in real life

[quaint karma]

thats what i think of you

doesnt make a difference

[unborn token]

doesnt make u shit on everything everyone else sweated hours on

bc u cant play the game for shit

[quaint karma]

yeah excuse it all you want

[sonic marlin]

No game does lol

[quaint karma]

its like i said

you dont care about others

[raven hull]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-panic-what-to-do-omg-worried-gif-13451210

[quaint karma]

or how hard they work for things

you think you get to do the same

no you fucking dont

its straight up fucking disrespectful

[sonic marlin]

I cant lie playing hvh servers on cs tho was fun

[quaint karma]

i hope you fucking feel bad

well go fuck yourself then

[unborn token]

@alpine trail u straight up lied to our face once

and then did it again

but it doesnt make u a bad person

yeah no shit

i can tell

[quaint karma]

actual like antisocial sociopath shit i cant lie

you dont even know what that word means bro

go look it up

[unborn token]

there are only 3 people that cheated in that server

and you are one of them

you might just need to be hanged

but

yk

you also have rightss

unfortunately

dont really care

just saying the truth

ur just a fucking cheater weirdo

that deserves nothing

not even the fucking balls to tell us y cheat straight up

[sonic marlin]

@lusty vault

[unborn token]

id rather be put out of this server honestly

might do it my self

[sonic marlin]

Dont worry you will be if you keep saying shit like that

[unborn token]

what does that imply even

[raven hull]

reformed just had the teacher called on him

[unborn token]

we have griddy anyway

if i get banned it is what it is

it would be sad to have a guy that has admited to cheating here

but ban someone else

for just saying the truth

[dull falcon]

I actually have decent monitor croshairs

U cheat on apex is wild

Just swap to roller its the same thing

Recoil control or only take close range fights

[twilit flicker]

i think they should make it so u have to link your personal id to your account

no its not

china?

obviously nothing will be perfect

[dull falcon]

You have a chinese phone number @alpine trail

[twilit flicker]

but thats the best system that can be implemented

[dull falcon]

?

Bro

I need you to get a kovaaks playlist for me from this chinese discord i cabt make an acc bc i do t have a chinese number

Bro but u can download hacks

Ok bud

[narrow swift]

man cheating whilst saying u aim train sad asl

[twilit flicker]

why cheat

how does that work

u become part of the problem

what does that do

[lusty vault]

What did I just read