apex

[craggy prairie]

i think wolf just missed me and felt the need to ping.

[unborn token]

If I dropped inside it was like 2-3 people

And like wattson warror

And shit

[sharp ice]

i fucking hate campers and they facts these ppl chose to go therr is fair play like its the most advantageous pos u can play but damn

[unborn token]

Last time some vantage

[sharp ice]

what

[unborn token]

Was ult height

Being a weirdo

You literally had to hard chall

[sharp ice]

ofc its a vantage player

[unborn token]

To kill

Doesn't matter who rly

Always some fucking dog casual

That thinks it's how u play

[sharp ice]

cadual wattson players are the worst thing u can find

fuck those people

[craggy prairie]

it's not important lol

[sharp ice]

they also duo w a rampart

[sharp ice]

sorry

[mental ridge]

idk he posted a 20bomb of a apex acc called wyd future

[unborn token]

Yh bc

He prob watched future stream

But that was a control game no

?

[craggy prairie]

it was a screenshot. lool

[unborn token]

^

Yeah

[mental ridge]

i didnt pay enought atztention ig

anyway somebody tell future hes getting shipped lmao

[sharp ice]

future lowk has some hard beats

[craggy prairie]

wrong future.

[sharp ice]

u cant tell me this shi aint gas
https://on.soundcloud.com/2jqs5

[unborn token]

@fiery pond apparently they r shopping you and me bro

[unborn token]

Yeah he does

Also plays apex

[sharp ice]

w

[unborn token]

[sharp ice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069717822122508341/1220936845219729478/cant_have_shit_chungus.gif

[craggy prairie]

this goes hard. adding it to faves.

[sharp ice]

[unborn token]

What my girl smokin

Looks like a winston

[sharp ice]

idk i quit smoking

[unborn token]

Most definitely a winston

Gonna ask the subreddit

[sharp ice]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-27177734

[unborn token]

Monkeman

[compact oracle]

bro these players sitting behind cover jiggle peaking with mastiff or wingman in r5 are getting on my fucking nerves

[craggy prairie]

acktually they're just playing the game how it's meant to be played. what do you expect them to do? just run out into the open and die to unfair kbm movement?

.

[compact oracle]

yea you are right mb

[unborn token]

Yeah they are absolute npcs

I legit cracked some guy that went back and sat behind cover that I had to Cross to to fight

Absolute imbecile

[unborn token]

People unfortunately unironically believe this btw

That they are meant to somehow play 1v1s only utilizing cover

And that's " proper "

[devout tusk]

what if they are practicing jiggle peeking

[craggy prairie]

yeah that's what makes it so funny.

[unborn token]

Then play the actual game and get swang by 4-3 upcoming 15 yr old roller hound

[unborn token]

If anyone knows the pyrate code from Bartholomew roberts

I will literally make the exact same thing for fucking r5 karma 1e

1s

I swear to god

The players that actually play have to come together and gatekeep the practice at this point

I'd go as far as to host and literally hide the fucking server

Behind a monthly sub fee

Which would be pisslow but yk

[craggy prairie]

that aside, anyone excited for season 4 of The Boys?

[devout tusk]

then you get respawn to shutdown the whole operation since youre monetizing their game

[compact oracle]

YES!

[craggy prairie]

🤝

[compact oracle]

did you also watch invincible?

[craggy prairie]

I have not. been watching my very backed up anime list.

lol

i'm almost finished with the last show, though...

[compact oracle]

Its so good, its from the same guys that make the boys

[craggy prairie]

ah. no wonder the pacing and characters are so good.

that clip where Omni-man is asking where his son is

to his friend in the car

me :

[compact oracle]

ha yeas 😄

[craggy prairie]

these clips keep me fed. gonna watch it after Frieren

though

i hear lots of good things about it. might buy the comics to add to my collection...idk

[compact oracle]

yea i think the comcis are also good, but i did not read them

its better when u watch it when all episodes are out, the cliffhangers are kinda annoying

[craggy prairie]

...yeah...and that's why TWD lost so much momentum as well lol.

[compact oracle]

But twd just got worse each season honestly 😄

[unborn token]

Bro

[craggy prairie]

tru

[unborn token]

I just want final space

To expand on what it did

And continue

This mf @compact oracle reminded me of that

That show is literally so good

It's actually sad to not see it being continued ( unless it is and I've missed shit )

[craggy prairie]

never heard of it.

mayhaps it's open for interpretation? maybe the comic gives a nice send off where it explains what the characters are doing? maybe a movie to tie up all those loose ends?

[compact oracle]

its getting an end but not as show sadly

but its still worth to watch the seasons they made its such a great show

@unborn token https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRg6C8mqhTk

[unborn token]

Noooo

I mean will it

Be

Separate like

Movie?

[compact oracle]

The show was started by a youtuber and i think some studio bought the licence and funded the project. Then the studio merged with warner (i think) and in the merger of the companies some shows got cut off.. Problem is the producer of the show does not have the rights to produce a final season with lets say netflix because he doesnt have the rights for his own show

one big fat book with 1000 pages or so

[unborn token]

It started as a concept essentially

Became what it is

It's actually incredible

World building characters

It's a cool show

It kinda ends in a cliffhanger

Of a sense

Or rather not rly but you don't get anything after that

And people only speculated online

[craggy prairie]

awww that's unlucky.

[unborn token]

@craggy prairie you should watch ti

It

You'll understand what we mean

The show is it

[compact oracle]

yea after a lot of pressure from fans and the prodcuer himself they granted him the license to make 1 final book

[unborn token]

It's like a better Rick and morty

[compact oracle]

nothing else

[unborn token]

And this is a hot as fuck take

[craggy prairie]

i'll put it under MT season 2 and circle back.

ah. i have an interview. yay.

[frail kiln]

MT light novel is the way to go

[craggy prairie]

ik but the animation is so beautiful in the show....

Roxy looks so fking cute. 😩

[frail kiln]

both are good asf

[craggy prairie]

agree.

something about ln Roxy looks so much cooler than her anime adaption counterpart.

[frail kiln]

im genuinely curious if it'll still be good with the new series he's making

[compact oracle]

someone wanna do some apexing ?

[craggy prairie]

that would suck. they have such a great thing going right now. i hope the quality doesn't suffer because of that

[frail kiln]

just seems like a really tall task

[craggy prairie]

mayhaps a bit later. i'm sad about earlier. i miss so much in this game but in other games i can shoot just fine.

[compact oracle]

Yeah i understand, will be on for ~1h before i go to bed

[craggy prairie]

let's hope for the best. 🤝 four our best girls

[compact oracle]

just hmu if u want to play then 🙂

[craggy prairie]

kk

MT talk in the VT discord. time to whip out the Roxy profile picture.

[compact oracle]

whats MT btw 👀

[craggy prairie]

Mushoku Tensei.

[compact oracle]

oh okey never heard of it

[craggy prairie]

ah.

it's a great isekai. would recommend.

it isn't as cool as Frieren, I have to admit.

i hate that I have to admit to such a thing

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

[compact oracle]

Im not in the anime game at all only watched some demon slayer and the ghibli movies

[craggy prairie]

that anime used to get talked about a lot...

besides the pretty lady that looks like someone's mom i didn't see much appeal

[compact oracle]

a friend told me to start watching anime and said i should watch it 😄

[craggy prairie]

average "that's my fav anime" shill

[compact oracle]

yea

[craggy prairie]

i'm a simple man. i tell people to go watch something like kyoukai no kanata

or b e y o n d t h e b o u n d a r y

in english

its a great show with great animation cause its funded by those sweet sweet kyoani bucks baby

https://tenor.com/view/kyoukai-no-kanata-gif-24307187

[sharp ice]

tbf ghibli is a good starter for anyone

[compact oracle]

they are so good. i also just love the music

[compact oracle]

im gonna check it out

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dyar-and-owen-handshake-guy-gif-19400886

this show was so average but had the anime world in a chokehold for so long.

but it does make nice reaction gifs

[craggy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kikis-delivery-service-ghibli-kiki-kiki-the-witch-anime-gif-16933631

[sharp ice]

that was honestly a pretty deep movie

the delivery witch one

[craggy prairie]

yeah and Kiki is so adorable.

[compact oracle]

ayo just got my vt rank

[dull falcon]

Ive been here so long i dont hace one

[craggy prairie]

a veteran of the game

[dull falcon]

Lmao fr

[sharp ice]

arent u also a goated tracker

or sth

[frail kiln]

hes aight

[dull falcon]

I just do tracking if there was a benchmarks for tracking in vt id do it

But there isnt

Washed af rn on the roller grind till im really good

So another 100hrs

[frail kiln]

Respect

[sharp ice]

there is

wym

[main merlin]

marcus fenix collection when

[ocean flame]

i vaguely remember fuzzy memories of watching this with my parents when i was very young

good memories

[craggy prairie]

same. i never watched the original JP dub but I hear it's a tad different than the localized Western version.

the most sane Steam purchase review

[devout tusk]

go play trampolinetrack

[craggy prairie]

that sounds like another reason to make me sad about my aim.

[devout tusk]

its kinda hard ig

but i think stuff like this is so op

for getting better

[craggy prairie]

a masters rank saying something is difficult

what could me with pitiful scores play that can help before tackling such a task

[devout tusk]

its like

controlsphere difficulty

with more vertical

[craggy prairie]

controlsphere so hard.

hmm

mastering aim is such a rough journey.

[devout tusk]

i mean you have diamond smoothbot

controlsphere not too hard for you

like i mean it will help you a lot, not too hard to gain from it

[craggy prairie]

i'll give it a shot.

!!!

curse this little speedy ball a thousand times.

i hope that the creator steps on a lego

[devout tusk]

not even bad bro that was like what i got for a while when i started playing it

[craggy prairie]

ah....

i'll keep it going though. like a precision training arc type beat

...well I aim trained. might as well play something now.

should i use the tsu beside my name or nah

"yo ツ. Echo here ツ!"

[dull falcon]

the only one ik that isnt vt is tha aio one i think

[little verge]

Controlsphere best sphere

[craggy prairie]

this games stupid.

stupid game

stupid stupid stupid

i'm going to bed

stupid

[hot river]

proud of this one https://outplayed.tv/media/KxdBaG

[left swan]

teamers suck at the game

what a surprise lol

[devout tusk]

why is the dummy slower than you

[left swan]

thats weird

[devout tusk]

i feel like its moving at the old smg ads speed

even though its holding a 301

and not adsing

[wintry cypress]

Lmao what were they planning to do

[wintry cypress]

I think non ads strafe speed with a 301 could be slightly slower still

[devout tusk]

unholstered speed is 173 no matter what

grenade, sniper, wingman

what do you mean

[unborn token]

depends what speed setting u have

it

on

[devout tusk]

its on run ofc

walk matches ar ads speed

run is slightly slower than it should be

[unborn token]

gonna be shooting nukes today

considering im still half awake

mega locked in

[wintry cypress]

Istg i gotta hop on R5 more often but i cba tbh

[mental ridge]

wich strafing dummy settings

[unborn token]

fast red evo and

inv

[mental ridge]

reload on hit?

[unborn token]

yes

otherwise no pt on inv

[compact oracle]

Are these games getting streamed somewhere?

[unborn token]

privacy might be doing watchparty

or shiv

only finals get streamed

[severe canyon]

Inspirational as hell

Can I hire you to fuck off

[lapis moat]

lets suppose thats not a bot

10 yoe looking for a job in an aim server is truly a low point

[devout tusk]

its rough out there rn

[unborn token]

very inspirational round 1 farmage

[wintry cypress]

ong

send out 10 applications, no responses

👍

guess ill just put my life savings into $NVDA

[severe canyon]

Mofo hates money

[native nimbus]

EU voltaic 1v1 r5 server is down?

[wintry cypress]

not like its gonna dump any time soon

[severe canyon]

Depends if the fortnite battle pass stock stays strong or has Taco Bell

[frail kiln]

ive been 1clipped by roller 4 times today

feels so fucking good

[barren jackal]

yo what was the name of that MnK prodigy kid but who got cancelled like a year ago?

[unborn token]

Caprah

Bro I fucking hate french people

Why is every french apex player an absolute degen subhuman

We get surprised con by a 3pl french team that also happens to be the best in the lobby

Actual cancer

[barren jackal]

ahh yeah that's what it was, I already started to forget his name, trying to remember it for 3 days now

[unborn token]

Why thp

[barren jackal]

?

[unborn token]

Why y tryna remember his name for 3 days

[barren jackal]

ahh uhh

i actually forgot

the reason

i'm not good at remembering things at all apparently

[frail kiln]

Caprah should just name change and play again

its fucked

[mental ridge]

who is

[twilit flicker]

nah

already hit puberty

his voice and aim style will be insta recognised

[frail kiln]

I was hoping Teq would pick him up

but I think nobody wants 2mnk whatsoever

[twilit flicker]

its too hard to be a mnk fragger

[royal sundial]

who want to spar me dm me (im new)

[dull falcon]

Ur basically locked into mnk igl and maybe like an anchor but roller will still compete for u w that role

[frail kiln]

MnK refrag is good

like how Zer0 plays

I feel like you basically need a MnK bang to keep up with Bloodhound now anyways

[quaint karma]

caprah? why would anyone want to play with him

[frail kiln]

he's just hella good

people change too

[quaint karma]

lmao

yeah im sure hes changed this time

[frail kiln]

he's so young

[quaint karma]

since its been like a few months

just like last time

and the one before

[frail kiln]

I'm just saying he's like 17?

[quaint karma]

nah hes just a dickhead is what he is

and ican guarantee you no one changes in like a years time

[frail kiln]

I think Dezign changed a lot

from playing w/ Timmy and Enemy

[dull falcon]

Zero is an outlier hes basically two roles in one. No? Like he frags out for a mnk player in general but then again its their playstyle too. If i remember he was like in top 10 for kills last split for one of the groups

[frail kiln]

top damage and kills like it's not even a challenge

probably a bad example

[half salmon]

caprah has been given multiple chances

he never fucking learns

hell he even doubled down on it

[dull falcon]

I only know this guy from ppl shit talking ab him

[half salmon]

so ipn care

[frail kiln]

what was his multiple chances though

he's basically been stuck

in tier 2

for like a year

[quaint karma]

@half salmon

[woeful garnet]

Bluds a hater

Anyone can change if they truly want to

[quaint karma]

free my mans @half salmon

[woeful garnet]

Not saying that he has

[frail kiln]

free days

[twilit flicker]

he had like 5 second chances

he is not changing

[mental ridge]

a habit build over a long time doesn't go away in a few days or weeks or months

[mental ridge]

can we realy judge if he aint changing ? since slow change a reducing rate at wich he slurrs is also a change

[craggy prairie]

[devout tusk]

Its so easy to not sperg out and drop slurs when youre mad, or should be

Like not even a debate

Bro is like mentally 11 years old

That type of person doesnt just "change", thats like serious emotional regulation issues

[dull falcon]

Im so proud of you

https://tenor.com/view/marmot-stupid-marmot-gif-12821280699549574488

[royal sundial]

hello who want to spar

[dull falcon]

Get a profile pictur first then i will

[royal sundial]

?

[royal sundial]

What do you mean amigo

[wispy dawn]

why?

what are you saying bro haha

[royal sundial]

Ready friend want to spar 🙂

[unkempt spoke]

fellow roxy pfp

[dull falcon]

ur exactly like king vicktor

[royal sundial]

LOL

so spar?

[dull falcon]

nah grinding kovaaks rn

[craggy prairie]

yus

[crimson nymph]

ranked anyone?

[dull falcon]

https://outplayed.tv/media/N46MPv

.6 diff and replay lag or is his croshair not on me at all

[mental ridge]

hackers can make themselves look like consoleplayers

like confuse servers i to thinking they play on a console

then they can cheat in console lobbies

[mental ridge]

omg i found the first console gameplay video i enjoy watching because of the aim i see

https://youtu.be/W1GwgKvgdzw?si=krmw4BaUPXyAyIly

[alpine trail]

funny dude ❤️

[mental ridge]

hes cute yes

like a pet

embodiment of casal mnk players

[frail kiln]

I love watching these videos

I pray for AA nerf

its the last thing I hold onto with pure unadulterated cope

[devout tusk]

Its never coming

[mental ridge]

its comming when 99% on pc play controller

[devout tusk]

Would be pointless then

Everyone alr switched

[frail kiln]

dont give me hope

[frail kiln]

Devs intimated this was a "concern" they were explicitly watching out for

but that's just

noise

yapping

[mental ridge]

they tryna work out how to nerf aimassist without nerfing aimassist lmao

they are scared to upset the playerbase

they dont care about mnk

[twilit flicker]

good

[covert kindle]

nah dawg

im builtt different

[lapis moat]

very

he was frying my shit harder than mav just now

mav challed me on NA and won by 3

i would nuke him on 5 ping

[royal sundial]

Hello who want to spar

[mental ridge]

always dem ping excuses just play controller

[lapis moat]

don’t have one

[mental ridge]

do u have a wooting ?

[lapis moat]

yea

[mental ridge]

so u do have a controller

just rebind your keyboard to be the controller

since u can use the halleffect switches to creat joysticks

no excuses

[unborn token]

XAZAAXAXAX

[mental ridge]

???

[raven hull]

Greek laughing

just laugh at him for being greek

ong fr

reformed when he gains a british accent out of thin air

that shit is beyond cursed

[ocean flame]

somehow every accent converges to british online

[raven hull]

apparently so, meanwhile im just stuck with it permanently

[arctic violet]

Novasmoothbotguy

[raven hull]

quite a jump

[mental ridge]

no u dont as soon as u have controller inputs it disables lurches...

[mental ridge]

what a wierdo

?

and hell let somebody have aimassist when they lurch and aim on a keyboard

if you rebind 4 wooting switches into a joystick you shall have aimassist while lurching

[ocean flame]

Samee

ive got the whole slight chinese accent and rhey still think im british

[sharp ice]

nah what

[wintry cypress]

Bros average is my highscore 😭

To be fair im on 20cm

Good excuse cause its true

[hard echo]

meanwhile my highscore is like 1.9k 😔

[unborn token]

cc#

[mental ridge]

is that greek too

[unborn token]

no

[mental ridge]

eggsplain

[wintry cypress]

Pretty sure russians type laughter like that

Idk about greeks

[unborn token]

algs opens

[arctic violet]

well, on 20cm is really good, idk if i can get a gm score with that sens

[wintry cypress]

I mean i dont have a GM smoothbot score

I was 20 points off 🤣

After i get GM with 20cm ill go to 25cm and see if i can get near nova lmao

Thatll be fun

I also got a new centering 2 180 no strafes score with 20cm

So idk i should be able to get a higher score on smoothbot as well

But my smoothbot been whack lately so we'll see

[arctic violet]

ye i see that score, crazy good smoothness on that sens

if i use anything under 25cm I'm too jitter i just can't

[wintry cypress]

Yea very inconsistent tho, tho my average is like 3k rn

[arctic violet]

skill issue

[wintry cypress]

Real

[arctic violet]

I'm trying to apply for gm but static is my enemy

[wintry cypress]

real

started doing 1w3ts again recently

i fucken suck

surprised im even getting into the 1000s

[twilit flicker]

the eu ceo on r5 is gnaske?

[mental ridge]

i need a carry in bronze ranked

wait no gold ranked so i get more plus

[fast karma]

dont you get rp for existing in bronze?

just q some more and instantly plat

[wintry cypress]

not really u still need kills

but its not that hard

remember this ranked system gives more points for kills

[fast karma]

true

tho idk i didnt really play before now

but still

i dont think theres a penalty for q-ing a match if youre bronze

like if you die at 20th you dont lose rp

which means you can hot drop until you learn how to get kills

while earning rp

[wintry cypress]

he corrected to gold

not bronze 😄

[fast karma]

i thought he said gold cause he wants the bonus for killing higher ranked players

[wintry cypress]

ohhhh wait

yeah that could be it

[fast karma]

maybe hes silver?

ah idk

idk i probably shouldnt be talking anyway lmao

im only plat 1 so

💀

apex is fun tho

[wintry cypress]

lol im plat 4

[fast karma]

ah

XD

[wintry cypress]

sometimes 😂

[fast karma]

look

compared to valorant

i got immortal 2 in that game

never again

worst experience of my life

[wintry cypress]

lmaoo

i feel like tacfps just gets worse the higher ur rank gets

idk i always enjoyed cs but idk if i can enjoy it at higher ranks

[fast karma]

the brain damaged and the gameplay

[fast karma]

thats fair

[wintry cypress]

ability game moment

[fast karma]

ig its more dependant on they type of person

cause if im fighting someone

i want to be able to see them

dying through smokes and walls

does not feel good

at least i can shoot through a bang smoke now really well XD

i dont need a blood scan

but yea anyway

me gtg

[unborn token]

Yes

[frail kiln]

Gnaske can be so good when he wants to be

[unborn token]

he is

wdym

[frail kiln]

everytime I watch

its like 50/50

he's trolling

or IGL genius

it's like he has to preserve his mental for the big days xDD

[unborn token]

everyone kinda like that

[frail kiln]

Gnaske the type of mf to int some shit, ignore everything Don says, and then laugh about it for the next 10 minutes

Respect.

[sharp ice]

how

[devout tusk]

They been saying that since 2020 bro

Theyre just leading mnk players on

[wintry cypress]

Sixth sense from cs/val i guess

[devout tusk]

They release no data no specifics, they never say its strong or weak. Its just vague "were watching it" PR bs

[robust python]

i have been humbled by the benchmark holy shit

[hot river]

can't tell if i'm getting better or the ppl I'm playing against in r5 are worse lol

probably both

[twilit flicker]

both

[unborn token]

Benches don't rly mattwr

[unborn token]

1 kd on r5 and 32% acc secured ish

Beat mechanical mnk player

In the world

Super good in r5

Yeah he is insane

Yes

Should do it as well

Yeah

[unborn token]

My bad og

[compact oracle]

Quick tip: You have to pay attention on how long you have to ads for the spread to actually change. Some people spam ads and the spread doesnt change at all. On a 301 u need to ads for like 5 bullets to get good hipfire spread.

[mental ridge]

what did u get

[compact oracle]

i think most people did doing them the first time

[robust python]

iron obviously

[mental ridge]

oh ive been there

[dull falcon]

persona?

[mental ridge]

im at plat now

[robust python]

wat

[dull falcon]

u can get gold in like 30 mins

[compact oracle]

[mental ridge]

took me a while ngl

im still not gold complete

[robust python]

just working towards getting pasu into gold

it is very clearly my weak point

[dull falcon]

dont worry ab scores just good tecnique it will save u alot of unlearning later on

[robust python]

im aware just have no idea how to improve in pasu

[compact oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNP0F_gpOQ

RiddBTW has a video of each aiming technique. Its a nice entry point to understand what the right approach for each type is imo.

[craggy prairie]

i also hate pasu

(for now)

[marsh crane]

I love pasu

[compact oracle]

bro i started watching beyond the boundary

but why is the voice of the girl so high on the english dub its so hard to listen to

[unborn token]

Pasu gaming

[craggy prairie]

English VA normally aren't casted very well. they rarely get it right...lol

[compact oracle]

[craggy prairie]

just watch the JP dub honestly

[compact oracle]

but i dont wanna read subtitles im lazy 😄

[craggy prairie]

then suffer.

[royal sundial]

Yo who want spar

[rose wraith]

i need to spend more time with the gold shotgun bolt

[mental ridge]

id recommend dummies on red and fast strafing

[craggy prairie]

POV: your doomer arc begins because you'll never have decent aim in ™️

[devout tusk]

how do i get the firing range dummy strafe speed fixed who do i need to talk to

[raven hull]

Goated name btw

https://tenor.com/view/roxy-mushoku-tensei-gif-25630925

[raven hull]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-7099278856497118059

[left swan]

WHY DO PEOPLE TEAM IN SOLOS

[raven hull]

I mean the answer is pretty obvious

they are bad

[left swan]

and they both have heirlooms

people dont get banned for this at all or?

[raven hull]

doubt it, they only really manually ban cheaters. So i doubt they care about people teaming in a limited time gamemode

[mental ridge]

wym

[raven hull]

ive seen blatant aim botters with $100's worth in heirlooms, they are confident they wont get banned

and they are probably right

[left swan]

thats sad

[mental ridge]

or tgey couldn't care less since the accs are stolen

[raven hull]

i mean didnt that team of 3 spinbotters make it all the way to pred before getting their first round of accounts banned

[raven hull]

maybe, one was the katar so unless that account got comprimised recently that was actually his main

but yeah its also likely they are stolen accounts

[left swan]

and like 20% of the people that have reached masters/pred this season have been banned

[raven hull]

yeah its a sorry state

i think i could probably get masters this season but its literally down to rng of how many cheater teams i get per game

EU is unplayable because its like 99% cheaters

we have been playing NA

the 90 ping is worth it for the lesser amounts of cheaters

[left swan]

I have been hardstuck d4 in every season that I have played in

[raven hull]

NA diamond lobbies are weird man, they are either complete bots of 3 stack pred cheaters

[left swan]

and no reason to grind for masters i guess

[raven hull]

you just roll the dice and see which you get

[left swan]

How do you get 90 ping to na

i get like 70-80 to eu servers

[raven hull]

it can depend on time of day but yeah from UK - certain NA servers i usually get 90 ping

sometimes 140

but usually sub 100

tbh my ping to eu is like 40-80 most of the time

[left swan]

interesting

[devout tusk]

the dummies "run mode" is not possible to mirror, it is slower than hipfire strafe and faster than smg ads strafe. walk mode matches AR ads strafe

its not a speed that anything moves in game

unless im being really stupid somehow and overlooking something

[mental ridge]

afaik different guns have different hipfire strafe speeds?

[devout tusk]

no

everything is 173

might be shotgun ads actually i think i forgot that one

[unborn token]

It's matchable

[mental ridge]

isnt it just smg strafe speed

[devout tusk]

how bro

[devout tusk]

if it is a player speed it is the old smg ads speed because shotgun ads is also faster

and shotgun is .9, old smg was .85

[mental ridge]

i was mirroring with my r99 in fr ads and i didnt see any big deviation

[devout tusk]

I swear i tested this one and it was faster wtf lol, i still think its slightly faster but yea barely

but anyway my main complaint

is why

is it not hipfire speed

hes hipfire stance, hes holding an ar

hipfire would be way more useful

[twilit flicker]

u have kovaaks?

KovaaKsPullingRockyAimbot
KovaaKsSneakingLongFireteam
KovaaKsPushingRoyalpurpleLoadout

this is mostly strafe aim

[unborn token]

actually just bad

[unborn token]

sideways

[arctic violet]

pullingrockyaimbot fire name 😂

[unborn token]

bro 10 is

way too muchj

[twilit flicker]

u set it to random

[raven hull]

ur a sheep if you follow what it says

[twilit flicker]

am i the only one that plays all playlists on random?

[bright elm]

i only play certain playlists on random

[raven hull]

probably you psychopath

[bright elm]

if it's a general playlist with no structure then yea

[unborn token]

i used to

[raven hull]

I just play for PB or 3 runs close to my PB and move on

[unborn token]

[bright elm]

you don't have to play all 10 runs i assume

you literally just play until you PB or feel like you have improved from last session

[unborn token]

unfort for my mnk bros

[bright elm]

because don't forget about the resets you'll make (unless you never reset runs)

[unborn token]

mnk fragging is dead

gotta 99.9

[devout tusk]

ok obviously but

i want to warm up vs hipfire why is it so slow whyd they make it like that

why is the setting called "run" too

fucked up

[arctic violet]

why don't use the r5r trainer?

[mental ridge]

yeah they should make a hipfire speed setting

[devout tusk]

R5 feels so jank to me and i play worse every time i warm up with it

[mental ridge]

yeah u gotta do some tuning of settings etc to make it playable and on my pc it really doesn't like anything above 1k polling

[compact oracle]

Anyone else feeling like kovaaks and r5r is more fun nowadays than apex?

[mental ridge]

apex is only fun in a 3 stack doesn't even need to be 3 sweats

[unborn token]

Bro playing tdms w this heat

Makes me want to shoot my self

[unborn token]

R5 for sure

So is kovaaks tbh

The fucking cheaters r just cancer

[compact oracle]

yeah no point in playing ranked

[unborn token]

Idk played like an hour or two ago

Was pretty chill

Hopefully I don't get chinks in diamond

(iwill)

[mental ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/s/lPs9E2ecgO

was that a toppic yet

[twilit flicker]

they did mention before they are looking for ways to nerf aa

but this is new

[mental ridge]

i mean pretty vague like do they just gonna lower the entire value

do they gonna nerf aa canceling out player inputs (thats what i think would be best)

[compact oracle]

there was another leak from the guy that leaked the s21 trailer. Where he said that respawn will tweet that they nerf aa but wont change anything.

[twilit flicker]

they should just lower it to .3 for now

[compact oracle]

I would not get excited about anything in that topic until actual changes happen (spoiler: probably never imo)

[twilit flicker]

no reason to overcomplicated it

[mental ridge]

and force aimassist override in pc lobbies no need to touch console lobbies

[compact oracle]

so idk if they will ever address it

[twilit flicker]

people will instantly figure out if it was changed or not

[compact oracle]

"will be nerved" its the same shit they say since 2 years. "We are aware of the issue" "we are looking into it"... blah blah

[twilit flicker]

ye

they also dont seem to care if the game turns into a roller game

[compact oracle]

it is already

[twilit flicker]

nah mnk is playable

just play wattson and afk in a spot

[compact oracle]

Sounds good

[mental ridge]

i still belive that if they find a way to slightly nerf aimassist without loosing roller players they will

[compact oracle]

could be, yes

[quaint karma]

if they nerf it they can only nerf close range, else most mediocre players will be next to useless compared to mnk players

any range outside of like 10m

as far as im concerned they should just scale the size of the AA bubble with range

[compact oracle]

sounds fair to me, but they probably would still have to address the subhuman reaction times for close fast strafes

but idk, either they are cooking on that way more then we do here, or they never change it. Only time will tell ig

[mental ridge]

less closerange aa=less time bought by aa

[quaint karma]

they could also scale AA value based on range

why not both

like have it on .25 close

go up to .4

for idk what distance

[mental ridge]

i still belive they should just nerf the capability of aa canceling out player inputs

itll just nerf bad inputs beeing overwritten but good inputs stay untouched so its actually just helping

[compact oracle]

that would eliminate no dz meta and everyone would choose small dz 😄

[quaint karma]

people dont realize that rotational AA has worked this way ever since AA was introduced to games

call of duty 3 has the same rotational AA as modern cods

there was a video of a guy testing it

he used the compass to see how many degrees it rotates

[mental ridge]

as if it was ever different its the easiest way to introduce aa

[quaint karma]

nah but people are saying 'games used to have only slowdown'

[mental ridge]

just replace player input with aimbot

[quaint karma]

thast just not true

[compact oracle]

thats interesting, didnt know that. it probaby came more appearant with higher ttk games as apex and cross-play

[mental ridge]

thats just rollers coping coz back then aimassist wasnt as negatively talked down on

[quaint karma]

well there wasnt crossplay

[mental ridge]

they thought they were better back then

[mental ridge]

yes

[quaint karma]

yeah

also old games didnt let you customize your response curve

linear was not a thing

you cuoldnt customize anything, not even your ADS sens

[compact oracle]

thats crazy actually your limited by the input and also the game is fucking u over too lol

instead of letting you configure sens/curve

[quaint karma]

i tried playing controller on the finals but it just feels so bad

they have a linear setting but it is clearly not linear

[uneven badge]

are you playing roller in apex too ?

[quaint karma]

speaking of the finals, controller and mnk are super balanced there even though roller is strong on paper

[quaint karma]

yeah

[uneven badge]

bruh

[quaint karma]

for like a year now

[uneven badge]

😂

how is it going

[quaint karma]

well im like top 15 on r5 for accuracy

so

going well

[uneven badge]

and how about MNK before that

[quaint karma]

nova reactive

[uneven badge]

i cant tell how good that is

im new

[compact oracle]

very good

[uneven badge]

so

are there different benchmarks for each game or what

[compact oracle]

nosh what made you switch? curiosity?

[uneven badge]

frustration

[quaint karma]

wanting to not lose cuz of my input

[uneven badge]

ahhahaa

[compact oracle]

fair

[uneven badge]

thats what i thought

im legit

in solos

[quaint karma]

4000h mnk

[uneven badge]

getting beamed by 95% of horizons

[mental ridge]

sounds like a skill issue ngl

[uneven badge]

i got almost half of that

[compact oracle]

no, but reactive is the type of aim most relevant for apex

[uneven badge]

like 2k h

nove reactive

can you show me the routine you need

[quaint karma]

welli just played reactive scenarios on kovaaks

i hvae like 400h on reactive

[uneven badge]

i just downloadead aimlabs and played some ranked

[quaint karma]

idk i played a lot of things over the years, if you want a routine you might be better off asking someone else tbh

[quaint karma]

you should download r5 and play that every day

[uneven badge]

naaah 😂

i had that once

its a weird program

[compact oracle]

r5 is a gamechanger

[uneven badge]

maybe when i get my new pc

which is just ordered

till then no need 🙂

[quaint karma]

ong

[uneven badge]

aint no way

like even if ur super cracked

the beam of a controller is just better

teach me otherwise

[quaint karma]

tbf a lot of it is just positioning issues but if you ever take a straight up 1v1 and you lose cuz of your input

doesnt feel good

[uneven badge]

evne on shotgun roller is quite fine ngl

[quaint karma]

especially knowing you grind your ass off to be good

and no matter what you do, theyll have 10% higher peak acc close range

[uneven badge]

but you are on pc with roller ?

[quaint karma]

yeah

[uneven badge]

that means u got even less assist right ß

i mean less %

[quaint karma]

.4

[uneven badge]

its just crazy to me how accurate the hipfire of rollers is

i CANT

WIN

[compact oracle]

honestly thats the worst part about all of it

[uneven badge]

its impossible

on every stupid spray weapon

wanna play trios :D?

[compact oracle]

can't do much beside accept it and focus on your own improvement or switch inputs ^^

[uneven badge]

game changer would be pc lobbies only

with mnk and controller seperated

best dream

for future apex

its just frustrating to lose against lvl 200 rollers

evne though they got no arms xD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G57JXXqyrF8Tz_keWhgPDeCwSp-dcjHmlVBUFWgskHs/edit

found this on this discord

am gonna try that

[mental ridge]

mnk pros still manage to exist even tho its obviously easier to perform better on roller than on mbk

[uneven badge]

i do exist too ^^

with my 2 hands 😛

[mental ridge]

idk who u are

[uneven badge]

yes

[mental ridge]

appart from you beeing german speaking

[uneven badge]

doesnt matter

correct

im german

[mental ridge]

ente gut alles gut

[uneven badge]

🙂

[quaint karma]

all ill say also is that

a lot of your deaths youre probably blaming on roller are not because theyre on roller

its just because you positioned yourself really badly

[frail kiln]

Would be hilarious

[quaint karma]

and for further ranges than maybe like 20 to 30m mnk has the advantage (if youre good obviously)

[frail kiln]

If there was lower aim assist when you're fighting MnK

[quaint karma]

all this presupposes youre doing your best

[quaint karma]

that would feel so bad tbh

[frail kiln]

it would be sick though

[quaint karma]

idk tbh

i think maybe they just give mnk players bigger hitboxes on other players and thats it lol

who knows

[frail kiln]

How hard is .2 nosh

[quaint karma]

idk i havent played .2 in ages

[frail kiln]

like it's the RAA that's busted no?

[quaint karma]

.2 i think theyre roughly equal close range

for like the top players

[frail kiln]

I assume good roller players don't care too much about the slowdown or whatever the other value is

[quaint karma]

i read something on reddit the other day by balvarine and he said that near .2 mnk and roller are equal

but that is just r5 range

which is all close range fighting

so outside of that roller would get absolutely rolled

[frail kiln]

that's also R5 playerbase

so you have to adjust that players are above average

esp controller players

[quaint karma]

yeah heres the thing

if youve ever watched like bad console players

they NEED that aim assist lol

[frail kiln]

yeah I get that

it's really horrendous

I mean like who hasn't just ran down every lobby at the start of the season

[mental ridge]

thats why we need aimassist override in pc lobbies
this way console can stay untouched

[quaint karma]

i mean i just mentioned console as an example cuz i see so many bad players on console

my youtube sometimes randomly recommends me tiny apex channels

and its all terrible players

[frail kiln]

I genuinely died to roller more times yesterday than I've ever had before

starting to lose my mind

[quaint karma]

like i said, a lot of the time its not their input that killed you, its just you taking the wrong fight

its obvious after swapping

a lot of deaths me complaining about roller was just cope

[frail kiln]

I get diamond and now it's like 70/30 controller player ratio

Yeah I need to stop playing the same way

as I was before

[quaint karma]

also havoc is fucking stupid, nerf that gun

im so tired of being oneclipped

by that stupid ass gun

[frail kiln]

?? You don't like the sound of 6 havocs spraying in a teamfight

[quaint karma]

🗣️

[mental ridge]

well on mnk they probably wouldn't have been able to punish bad positions as good

[frail kiln]

havoc is more broken than R99 pre-nerf

[quaint karma]

yeah

[frail kiln]

with current turbocharger it's not even a question to me

[quaint karma]

well for one thing, i think the gun needs to do 1 less damage

[frail kiln]

it needs a fire rate nerf and maybe ammo nerf

[quaint karma]

either that or reduce the mag size drastically

[quaint karma]

they dont like changing fire rate

they could balance a lot of guns that way

they just dont

[frail kiln]

Probably changes the "feel" too much

I get that

Or their codebase is shit

[quaint karma]

also apex players are wholly unaware of the fact that some guns reload faster than others or have different swap speeds

the r9 has the fastest reload and swap speed in the game as far as i know

i remember bf3 they used tobalance guns just around those stats sometimes

(not that they did a lot of balancing lol)

[arctic violet]

was the r99 with the barrel busted on mnk? i think when i started play with mouse was already gone

[quaint karma]

i dont remember, it became bsuted when they increased mag size and gave it one extra damage

now they took away ALL the mag size buffs, took away the 1 extra damage

AND made the recoil worse

oh lets not forget they nerfed hipfire across teh board

[frail kiln]

And hip fire nerf

ye

maybe the most egregious one

because hip fire is the most skill expressive part of the game

[quaint karma]

purple laser sight is worse than no laser sight before they added them

[frail kiln]

for roller too tbh

[quaint karma]

💀

[frail kiln]

it's fucked

just because they're too scared to nerf aim assist

that's the truth

[quaint karma]

i like that they changed strafe speeds on smgs

its actually agood way to make the inputs closer without touching aim assist directly

if youve ever played finals the inputs are so balanced there

in fact i think mnk is stronger there even though controller is stronger on paper

[frail kiln]

I've heard good things about input parity

[quaint karma]

its so easy to hit shots in that game

[frail kiln]

for the finals

[quaint karma]

on mnk

cuz strafe speeds are so slow and stuff

and you can see shit

i had NO issue at all aiming in that game on mnk

none

i could hit anything iwant

[frail kiln]

I just don't believe it's impossible to bring inputs more in line

[quaint karma]

apex its different

[frail kiln]

there's just no creativity to the approach

respawn would rather beat around the bush and not touch it

[quaint karma]

well see if the rumors are true

i kinda doubt it

[frail kiln]

I doubt it

it's lip service 100%

although NA pro league is getting absurd at this point

[twilit flicker]

copy pasted 4-3 fraggers spawning 24/7

[frail kiln]

like you can't count on one hand how many input swapped players there are lmao

off the top of my head: Lou Hal Reptar Alb

wonder who I'm missing

[mental ridge]

nerfed ads strafe speed

[quaint karma]

for smgs yes

but that was a while ago at this point

[frail kiln]

could probably count Doop

[quaint karma]

im pretty sure it was part of their attempt to nerf controller

[frail kiln]

Zaptoh is input swap IIRC

[quaint karma]

he is

hes the reason i swapped

[frail kiln]

that boy is cold

as fuck

ngl

and he's smart as fuck

[quaint karma]

well you hvae to know he played controller on fortnite before apex apparently

then was crazy on mnk on apex

swapped to controller nad became the goat in no time

[frail kiln]

Zap genuinely gonna kill it as IGL I believe in him

they just gotta carry old man Reps across the finish line

[quaint karma]

💀

im just rooting for zero as always

[frail kiln]

I love reps I won't accept slander

Reps and Zer0 my two favorite players

[quaint karma]

after swapping i dont really like watching mnk players too much anymore cuz the gameplay is just different

aside from zero

hes jsut the best

[frail kiln]

Zer0 is a freak seriously

[mental ridge]

what about sweet

[quaint karma]

never watched him

[frail kiln]

like that little montage of him shitting on Hal in R5

[quaint karma]

hes smart tho

[frail kiln]

who can do that

[quaint karma]

his strafes are hard to hit

i remember struggling when he first appeared on r5

[frail kiln]

Dude he makes Doki look like a normal human being

no offense to the boy

[quaint karma]

🥶

[frail kiln]

but Zer0 is an actual FPS prodigy

he just mirrors perma no?

[quaint karma]

idk just watch him play r5 ig

i havent seen him in a bit

think he plays at a different time than me

[mental ridge]

that would be easy to hit

[frail kiln]

not really

[twilit flicker]

heavly depends on the opponent

[frail kiln]

mirror is worse for RAA

[mental ridge]

?

rotational aimassist

[frail kiln]

I mean like anti-mirror activates RAA

[mental ridge]

oh mirror ≠ anti mirror lol oopsy

[frail kiln]

yeye no worries

[mental ridge]

forgot

[twilit flicker]

most people expect anti mirror

[frail kiln]

but I think someone like sikesz

doesn't give a fuck

[twilit flicker]

so mirror can throw them off

[frail kiln]

he's seen it all and knows what to look for

[mental ridge]

its so hard to mirror for me

[frail kiln]

it's really hard to mirror

[mental ridge]

im sooo used to anti mirror ciz 5k hours of roller

[quaint karma]

lou the goat?

[frail kiln]

like anti mirror is so intuitive and in other titles it's "kinda dodging"

Lou in scrims too

has been playing like a freak

he's on another level of roller abusing 😂