apex

[unborn token]

vt diamond is a good enough bench for the game

this person just doesnt play the game nearly enough

none of the aim training translates over

[wintry cypress]

what rank are they even

i thought they were silver

vt silver

oh VT diamond

[ornate gorge]

they js need to play brah

[wintry cypress]

whoops

yeah then just play

[dull falcon]

diamond is kinda mid

[unborn token]

no it isnt

[wintry cypress]

yeah but it should be better than that

[ornate gorge]

diamond def shouldnt look like that

😧

[wintry cypress]

^

[unborn token]

^

[dull falcon]

mhmmmm lmao

[unborn token]

that looks like

sub bronze

iron level

novice

[dull falcon]

that looks worse than gold

[wintry cypress]

tbf they have like 50h in apex

[unborn token]

120

[main merlin]

You guys underestimate how bad the avg mnk player is. VT diamond is way above avg mouse control

[ornate gorge]

dia vt will def look like an above average player if they have okay movement

[wintry cypress]

and it might just be their first fps game

[unborn token]

yeah

but still

for a vt diamond

[ornate gorge]

^

[unborn token]

that is bad

[wintry cypress]

its like avg aimtrainer rank

but yes

then again i see people with horrible aim fundamentals hit more shots than me without putting a single hour into aimtrainers so

[ornate gorge]

prediction core

[wintry cypress]

just play OW

unironically

[dull falcon]

yeah and mfs take soldier

[unborn token]

Guess what this is

in rank

[dull falcon]

reformed u got nosh roller playlist. i have sweden's

and the one i made is not hard enough and im getting tired of it

[unborn token]

i dont

wdym

im not aimtraining on roller

besides r5

when i feel bored

[dull falcon]

i dont wanna make a new one

[unborn token]

oh

w8

idk

[wintry cypress]

yeah?

tbh just play aim arena

[dull falcon]

is that new?i aint seen that when i was on there like 5 months ago

[wintry cypress]

pretty sure it was always a thing

every time i look up custom gamemode or whatever there are like 3 servers

[unborn token]

also this

anything from diamond to even jade is very good for apex

master above is the top percentile

gm above is like insanely low %

[main merlin]

Cod community has some controller aim trainer freaks who put 3k hours on kovaaks. They got some insane target switching clips on controller lol

[dull falcon]

jade feels like purgatory for me

[unborn token]

and yr top top

but

aim train mains

will say otherwise

even tho the biggest chunk of them

are actually horrible

in game

besides their aim

[dull falcon]

this is so me

i have bad game sense , i actually dont think

unless its rotations

[unborn token]

you dont have gamesense

i would say

it isnt just bad

you just wonder around

respectfully

[dull falcon]

its crazy tho

[unborn token]

whats crazy

[dull falcon]

no like it be like i feel lost for like zones 1 to 3, feels like there is no actual game plan aside from get to zone and survive and not take stupid fights ( this is very basic)

[mental ridge]

im a jade smoothbot onetrick

[arctic violet]

fast strafes give me brain damage I can't

[quaint karma]

idk if you were told this but hes diamond

the issue is definitely not that he spends too little time in aimtrainers

it just doesnt seem to translate cuz its his first fps game other than val

and he has 100h on apex

[mental ridge]

true i gotta play that more

[quaint karma]

most r5 players are way better than anyone you face

even up to diamond

even the bad players there are probably diamond level

[twilit flicker]

aim for body

below neck

u can aim head if its easy headshots

[compact oracle]

Talking bout r5, I read that eu voltaic servers are easy mode compared to karma na servers. So is it worth to play karma despite the 100+ ping you would say? Like isn't the lag super annoying 😅

[quaint karma]

yeah

[compact oracle]

Alr I'll give it a try

[unborn token]

yeah

karma players are like way better than eu

on r5

id prob go fucking 70/10 on eu

chad mnk acc on 2 games

i almost 1v3d 3pl red but

last guy is roller

and i dont have havoc

LMAO

first game

on na im abt 50/50 to 1.2kd

at best 1.5*

or so

na is times fucking harder

the players are way better and usually y get top 200-50 in there

mixed w pros

best prac is on na karma

all the t2 and pros r there

[barren jackal]

Can someone explain to me what this new Realm thing is?

[honest trail]

are you NA

nvm

we can 1v1 whenever

[quaint karma]

tournament

random teammates

[barren jackal]

wym tournament?

realm is hosting a tournament with random teammates?

[honest trail]

okay lmk im gonna head out till then

[alpine trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQEPCQh4W58
what should I improve?

this is not my best ngl

I can

ping me when you can play

[honest trail]

stop anti mirroring so much

also you have a tendency to just overshoot your crosshair in either direction instead of being dead center on target at times

also also, you have the issue i have where i come to a complete crouch instead of sliding, autorun moment

[mental ridge]

wym

[alpine trail]

okay thanks

[honest trail]

so when i want to slidejump, i dont completely sprint and just time my button presses horribly

[mental ridge]

why is autorun responsible

[honest trail]

and i just turn into a sitting duck

[honest trail]

because i can time my inputs better if i manually hit sprint instead of relying on auto sprint to do it for me

its just shit movement nothing more

[honest trail]

np

[alpine trail]

yea I got a lot of deadslides, but in br this doesn't happen

[honest trail]

nice

[alpine trail]

I just don't wanna hit shift every time

[honest trail]

^

[alpine trail]

and without autosprint I can't do instant slide jump

[quaint karma]

i think you hvae to be master+

[honest trail]

yeah theres some pros and cons to having auto sprint

[quaint karma]

teammates are randomized

theres an MMR system and points

and prize money every day + at the end

[twilit flicker]

3rd party ranked system

similar to faceit

only for pl and cc finals rn

[honest trail]

1v1?

[alpine trail]

yup

[bright elm]

do any of u guys use like HUDsight

or whatever for a crosshair

[twilit flicker]

ye

[bright elm]

ight ill try it out

i saw wrthcrw's vid on it the other day

[unborn token]

😦

died in scrims

noo

[alpine trail]

can I play with you?

okay np

[unborn token]

couldve been way better 😦

[twilit flicker]

melted in puff ?

[unborn token]

potentially

if videk plays with vik and horiz

[twilit flicker]

and aneqi ? 🤔

[unborn token]

fuck man we stayed in a negative game state on the first second sp game

for so long

we let a fucking solo bully us for like 30 seconds when his team is 300 meters away

and nth was done when i called to angle him

then we just take a straight up 3v3 that we lose bc i int

i lost my mind

and this game was mid as fuck bc we wouldve had way more pts we just got 3pd into tunnel

zone 4 closing so we legit cantdso anything when we kill that team

and wedge was eh

melted dropped by acc last game and i just played solo and got 4th

2nd game we had god spot and we just int the pacing of fight and get inted from back

idk

i have to perma call everything i think me melted dave work perf that way

i called every single zone in the game

main puff aim strength

im kinda very happy with my igling now bc it has gotten so much better + im super frying people @twilit flicker

[twilit flicker]

nice

[unborn token]

time to chill on uncharted now

and vod later

Do voltaic for now and play the game as much as y can

And once y feel slightly comfier on vt or just fine

Go na

[unborn token]

It's faceit for apex essentially

It's to help t2 scene w the pros

It's how kind4 got scouted by swinie

And how a lot of good t2 players find opportunities

It's pred and cc finals / psq finals or pl only

Used to be semis and apex pred

In s1

[alpine trail]

I dm you

[barren jackal]

I've never played with faceit, but wasn't faceit also available for normal / non-pro players? I thought it was just a tool to find mates at your skill level, essentially a LFG platform

or am I remembering it wrong?

[unborn token]

I think y misunderstood

It's essentially like faceit

Its soloq elo based

It's only exclusive to cc finalists people that get vouched by pros and pros

It's only exclusive to cc finalists people that get vouched by pros and pros

Why it sent twice

[barren jackal]

and faceit is also like that?

huhh okay weird

a few years ago I had friends who played CS and they weren't that good, but I remember them talking about having a certain level in faceit, so i thought that it's something available for the general player base

that's why i was confused by everything around realm & faceit lol

[unborn token]

Not entirely

It's different for apex

But they r the same concept essentially

Soloq elo based mm better than normal ranked

[compact oracle]

if i do close fast strafes scenarios, it sometimes happens that the target switches direction before i can even react to the first strafe and then i start to "jiggle" left and right if that makes sense. Is there anything i can focus on specifically that would help me with that or is it just a thing of grinding it out and trying to be faster

[unborn token]

Bad reading

/ not center mass

Track further into it so when it switches yr still on it and yr not wiggling around

[barren jackal]

but what is different then 😭

[unborn token]

Essentially keeps mouse still

[unborn token]

The fact that y have to be a t2 player or top 750 in ranked

[compact oracle]

ah i understand

[unborn token]

/ played previous season

It's not for everyone

[barren jackal]

so i was right about faceit?

[unborn token]

Idfk man I'ma play game

Ig

Same concept diff execution

W diff prerequisites

[barren jackal]

[unborn token]

Aim assist in uncharted is insane

[twilit flicker]

anyone can play faceit but realm is only for pros/tier2

[mental ridge]

thats your dmg wasnt it?

[lofty leaf]

that is me for sure

[compact oracle]

damn NA karma servers are actually way more fun than eu servers

more people do actual strafing

less people wallbouncing all the time

[unborn token]

yeah eu players suck

[compact oracle]

ping diff is actually not to bad only the pk felt pretty bad

[barren jackal]

why is that a problem though

[unborn token]

coz they get hit for 100-150 before they can even shoot their gun

against any real player

so its a waste of prac

so am i

[barren jackal]

so?

[compact oracle]

i find it better to face more realistic strafing honestly. The crazy movement is pretty rare in actual apex

[unborn token]

so youd rather start a 50/50 one dimensional fight already on a disadvantage?

LOL

[barren jackal]

okay yeah that's a good point, but i don't really care tbh

[unborn token]

you think your enemy in rank is just gonna run in the open infront of you and just

wall bounce infront of you

instead of challing normally

[compact oracle]

Hopefully

[unborn token]

if they are braindead enough

y

ye

[barren jackal]

but i hate how r5 has evolved over time. 2 years ago, the FFA & 1v1 servers started out as a playground for movement nerds. Now it's full of elitists shitting on people who just want to have fun with movement

Meanwhile the usual controller player who doesn't use all of that movement tech get's trash talked as well, just for the sake of playing that input

[unborn token]

no one is an elitist that shits on anyone that wants to have fun with movement

the geometry of the 1v1 servers and quality of players doesnt allow people to have fun with movement

if u want to have fun w movement

do it in the real game

and the movement gym

[barren jackal]

Look at twitter, that one tweet from Vaxlon especially. This conversation here reminds me of that

[unborn token]

thats what its for

[unborn token]

but its true

[compact oracle]

Can u link the tweet?

[unborn token]

why should i waste my time because some absolute moron wants to jump around like an npc

runing away from me

[barren jackal]

https://x.com/Vaxlon/status/1789826477849968980

FURIA Vaxlon (@Vaxlon) on X

After playing r5 1v1s for the first time, I don't understand why MnK players are trying to use movement to its full capacity instead of refining their aim.

Honestly hate them more than rollers lol

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 1:14 AM

[compact oracle]

Ty

[unborn token]

you think you can do shit that doesnt have concequences on others

??

[barren jackal]

But again, why is it a waste of time?

[unborn token]

so i can just go and run away from people with movement

because im having fun??>

[barren jackal]

Running away from you doesn't come hand in hand with utilising movement

[unborn token]

you are suposed to fight

not run and wallbounce away like a weirdo

[unborn token]

thats what they do

or dont shoot at all and lurch

in which case its still dumb but y kill em

[barren jackal]

yeah then for fucks sake call them out for running away from you but not just for them using movement techs

[unborn token]

if to u having fun w movement means go in a 1v1 server and be at a 80% neg hp every fght

be my guest

idm

[barren jackal]

running away while playing in these 1v1 servers is bad, yes

it's annoying

[unborn token]

^

again

if they fight me

even being on neg hp from begining which is dumb

i rly dont mind at all

they can do whatever

if they r weird and run away and literally do nth against me and just lurch

i find it weird and a waste of time

coz y can do it in a mov gym or any other server

other than that its allg

[barren jackal]

movement gym experience isn't the same as the fighting experience though

and nobody is going into the movement gym to practice lurching or any of that usual movement techs to use in symmetrical 1v1s. You are going there for the sake of mantle jumping, location specific wall bounces (ex: lyric jump) and other more advanced & gimmicky techs

Also, you still have to practice the combination of movement & aim

R5 1v1 isn't 100% about mirroring, anti-mirroring and dodging

neither should actual Apex matches be

this is what i mean

[barren jackal]

and at the same time, out of the perspective out of a "movement player", you could say that it's very weird that some players just do basic strafing and play like they've never heard of slide jumping

It's just 2 individual ways of playing the game and none of them is wrong

so please stop being toxic just because there is a player base that has a different approach in R5 1v1s than you

this whole non-issue is blown out of proportion anyway. Idk about NA servers but I've been very active in the EU servers for the past couple of days and like 1 out of 7 players was trying to actively implement wall bounces, lurches etc

the majority were controller players who, well, just played in the usual controller way and the rest were MnK players who, how you would say, play normally

[frail kiln]

I appreciate this

I have a similar problem to that OP

[unborn token]

nw

[unborn token]

You don't experience fighting

If you do movement and don't shoot

[unborn token]

No one said it is

But none of these movement players are

Goof

Good*

At all

Exception a very small few

Like future movementless atm and the rest

I went against lemon head on r5

He is fucking terrible

All of them are

Almost all that is

[barren jackal]

So? Let them be terrible then

[unborn token]

Make a movement only r5 cord

[barren jackal]

you were saying that nobody is an elitist here but now you are randomly talking about some people playing terribly

[unborn token]

What

So I should have some moron ruin my prac bc he felt like not shooting

And bouncing like a frog

That day

Cool

[barren jackal]

Bro this is literally how R5 1v1 started out

[unborn token]

Oh yeah

You surely were there

In vt back in spring 2 years close ago

Surely

Surely everyone just bounced around and didn't actually intend to one v one

[barren jackal]

yes I was

[unborn token]

But yeah nothing is wrong with a fundamentally wrong way to play the game

[barren jackal]

back when the most populated servers were FFA in drop off, mirage voyage and streamer building

before 1v1s got properly introduced

[unborn token]

Yes I will wallbounce on the one v one and get hit for 160 mid air because that's how it would be in the real game!

But why am I bothering

99.5% of movement players fight literal .2 kd shiters in pubs

[unborn token]

I said vt

But yeah mention ffa

[barren jackal]

idk what you mean by that

[unborn token]

Voltaic 1v1

Server

When rig hosted

Who gives a shit Abt ffa

[barren jackal]

yeah those were introduced a bit later on

[unborn token]

No?

[barren jackal]

yes

[unborn token]

Ffa was a thing for like ever

Bc that's what r5 was

People didn't play the way y believe they did

In voltaic

And just bounced around

Literally no one did

And we've been annoyed by them since they started

[barren jackal]

again, not everyone is playing R5 to really improve in the actual game

[unborn token]

Xzylas would get on with his weirdo friends and run away Perma and not shoot

And shit on us for playing the game

And bounce

[barren jackal]

yes people did

[unborn token]

But we are elitists bc we don't imbeciles

Ruining one v one prac

By bouncing like npcs and doing nth

Okay cool

[unborn token]

Like 2 people at best

[unborn token]

Then

Play r5

And do movement

[barren jackal]

here is another person talking about it

[unborn token]

A l o n e

[barren jackal]

bro can you just write one sentence in one line? wtf is all of that spam about

[unborn token]

A yes the I shit on r5 player clips guy but I post super glide octane stim content on npc players

On pubs

But that's original

That's yr model

Rly?

Lol

[unborn token]

That's how I type

You shouldn't be annoyed if I shouldn't be annoyed about movement players on r5

Ironic isn't it

[barren jackal]

and again, you have absolutely no point or substance behind your arguments and just go after the person behind it, stupid ad hominem

[unborn token]

I just explained

How it ruins it

You are meant

To f I g h t

Not bounce around

It's a one v one server

No one should conform to your abysmally dog way of doing things

It doesn't work

It's fundamentally flawed bc you take more dmg than the other person before you can even shoot them back

[barren jackal]

Yes because that's the most stupid thing I've ever read within the Apex community. MnK players shit talking MnK players for doing MnK movement. Like wtf?

[unborn token]

You are at a literal disadvantage every f u c k I n g

Time

But you don't seem to be grasping that concept

[unborn token]

ITS NOT A MOVEMENT GYM

ITS MEANT FOR A ONE V ONE

SWING

[barren jackal]

you are not meant to do anything why do you not understand that

[unborn token]

If u want to do movement do

just FIGHT THE OTHER PERSON

WHAT IS SO HARD

Like Hello

[barren jackal]

WHAT IS SO HARD
Like Hello

you can combine

[unborn token]

Okay so

Explain

What are you meant to do in comp apex

[barren jackal]

there is no either that or the other

[unborn token]

Since it's name is comp apsx

Apex

What

[barren jackal]

This is not comp Apex holy shit

[unborn token]

Exactly

It's one v one server

You are meant to fight

Not bounce around

And do nothing

Glad you can finally see my point

It has a purpose behind it

That's why it exists!

The same way r5 movement gym does

:0

Shocker

It's supposed to train something very specific

[devout tusk]

Sounds like you mind tbh

[unborn token]

The way y go Abt it is yr own way and yr entitled to it

But if u do only movement

And don't shoot

No one likes that

Bc y aren't doing what the server is meant for

You aren't fighting anybody

[unborn token]

So I should not give a fuck that some imbecile is running away from me and bouncing around

In a one v one server

Instead of fighting me

Very cool

[devout tusk]

Just kill him

[unborn token]

BAHAHAHAHAHA

[devout tusk]

Idk what the big deal is lol

1 guy

[unborn token]

JUST KILL THE GUY SPAWNING 60 M AWAY FROM U RUNNING IN THE OP DIRECTION

XD

And hiding

When there is no scan

[barren jackal]

Yes, and the original purpose was for MnK players to have a movement play ground because they were tired of the roller dominated Apex lobbies. Then controller players started to discover R5 for themselves and R5 1v1s started to lose attractiveness to this original player base.
Now pros and wanna-be aim maxxers discovered R5 and start shit talking the original player base - they shit talk the HANDFUL of people who actually do that nowadays

[unborn token]

That is not what r5 is

But pop off!

[barren jackal]

yeah fr

[devout tusk]

If hes just completely running away thats fucked up

[unborn token]

BUT THATS WHAT THE GUY IS DEFENDING

LITERALLY

OH tHey sHOuLd JuSt TreaT iT anYWaY they want

[barren jackal]

No I am not, I've made that very clear from the beginning on

[unborn token]

I've repeatedly said it is only an issue when they don't fight in a server where you are LITERALLY

FUCKING

MEANT

TO SHOOT THE OTHER GUY

And yet I'm an elitist for it

[barren jackal]

can you read? bro

[barren jackal]

.

you are just completly ignoring this point

[unborn token]

So he stands Infront of me and lurches

Same principal

Not shooting me

Wallbouncing like an ai around ne

Again

Not shooting

You are still defending it

[barren jackal]

then just shoot him if he is standing in front of you? where tf is the problem

[unborn token]

I do

It's a waste of my time

[barren jackal]

this doesn't sound like running away

[unborn token]

I could've gotten someone that would've shot me bias strafed did literally anything

That would improve both of us

Not some npc dog that gets nth and I get nth out of it

Idk how y cant comprehend it

It's very simple

No one

I mean

No one likes that on r5

Besides absolute weirdos

[barren jackal]

again, that's not the only way to play Apex

[unborn token]

No one wants to get on karma or eu and spend time of their day to improve at smth and get some complete moron do that

And waste their time

[unborn token]

There are many ways to play apex

Some are correct

Some are wrong

[barren jackal]

and that's the point that I've quoted StrafingFlame from

[unborn token]

Sitting Infront of someone not shooting bouncing

Is not correct

Never will be

Never was

[devout tusk]

Ok now im back on just kill him

[unborn token]

Because some guy sits and pubstomps a 9-5 dad or a child playing on controller w a tv w movement I should sit in the 1v1 server against him and wastethe 10-15 seconds to kill him instead of fighting someone that would've given me an actual fight

[barren jackal]

like fr

[unborn token]

And waste my time

All because I have to protect

[barren jackal]

all of that spam for nothing, no substance

[unborn token]

Ur feelings

[unborn token]

And I do

And I wasted my time doing so

I would've gotten 2 more fights in that time

[devout tusk]

U wasted your time complaining in here

[unborn token]

My time is meant to be spent and wasted however it suits me

[barren jackal]

first of all, you aren't protecting the feelings here of anyone. I'm part of the same player base as you are, playing R5 1v1s to get better at strafe aiming & dodging. For a whole year now

[unborn token]

So if a guy does that to yoy

You

He hasn't wasted his time

So how about

I chall you next sess

And I run around

[barren jackal]

I don't really care, I just shoot him

[unborn token]

Bouncing

And doing absolutely nothing

And even running away

I'm completely allowed to do that right

You wouldn't be wasting your time

Like at all

When you could've fought more people in that time frame

Gotten something from it actually

[barren jackal]

Heating your dense head up just because of that isn't worth it. And if anything is wasting your time/hindering your improvement, it's the fact that you get yourself heaten up in itself

so stop minding it, just play

[barren jackal]

and i want to bring up this point again

There are only VERY few people doing that what you are describing. People genuinely running away and abusing head glitching are a bigger problem

[unborn token]

It's not a big issue in na

But in general

Shouldn't be a thing

It should quite literally be banable

To just not fight on a 1v1 server

Wether that means bouncing Infront of me

Running away

Or literally doing lurches and nth else

It shouldn't be acceptable when the purpose of the server is to fight

Anyway

I'll go enjoy the rest of my food

[barren jackal]

then fight him, where tf is the problem 😭

whenever I encounter someone like this (like, again, this happens every rarely), I just take the opportunity to practice my aim & positioning against a player who just feels like doing movement only

Sure they are trolling, sure you can say that it's silly, but as long as they don't actually run away & hide from you, it shouldn't hinder your holy improvement arc whatsoever

here, another person I can quote. This time it isn't a "I shit on r5 player clips guy but I post super glide octane stim content on npc players" person if that is so important for you to have validation in certain arguments

[mortal hatch]

u guys can solve ur problems by making ur own training/practice community

anyone can setup their own R5R server

[barren jackal]

I don't have any issue with anyone

i'm just standing up against toxicity towards a certain player base (which I don't even belong to myself
but yeah sure, this argument wasn't going anywhere anyway

[dusk saddle]

does anyone know how to fix the firing range crash?? it's literally impossible for anyone to play skirmisher
i just crash instantly

[quaint karma]

completely disagree, ive been on r5 since 2022 and it was never like that

if the server is a 1v1 server

what do you do?

you 1v1

[barren jackal]

Have we been playing different R5s?

[quaint karma]

i mean if you only joined movement servers and thats all you did

sure

[barren jackal]

2022 R5 was basically full of MnK players and most of them used the servers as a play ground for movement

[quaint karma]

even back then when controller players were a rarity, most people just played to 1v1

[barren jackal]

exactly

[quaint karma]

there were some people doing movement while doing 1v1s

to say r5 existed to do movement is plainly wrong

[barren jackal]

i remember making a lot of friends with mutuals who were like that

[quaint karma]

flowstate wasnt made to practice movement

which is what the entire multiplayer is based on

am i wrong?

[barren jackal]

I didn't say that it existed for that purpose, I just said that the main purpose what people used R5 for back then was that

[quaint karma]

sure, before multiplayer was added

through flowstate scripts

[barren jackal]

yes exactly, and those players transitioned into playing the multiplayer servers as well

[quaint karma]

theres even an aimtrainer included in flowstate

[barren jackal]

i still remember the time when flowstate scripts were added and what a hustle it was to install them

[quaint karma]

as long as whoever im fighting is fighting back and not just there to do acrobatics, idc

thats about it

idk what the original discussion was about, too much to read

get on the 1v1 server in the spirit of doing 1v1s

not doing something else entirely

this isnt true

that is not what those servers were about

i mean its ffa, you can do whatever i guess

but in 1v1s?

if your main priority is not killing your opponent you should not be in a 1v1 server

its actually kinda rude to your opponent

ngl

and ive seen plenty of self proclaimed movement players in just being in there to piss people off

frankly

i remember when movementless and a few of his friends abused a bug to start pucnhing people 1v1ing

or getting in places where you arent meant to get to

and just sitting there

not fighting

[barren jackal]

yeah but like, what does that have to do with sole movement utilisation

for me back then it was a tool to practice utilising wall bounces, superglides and even some ras strafes (considering the state at which lurch strafing was back in 2022) in fights. And for that I definitely sacrificed the optimisation of how efficiently the fights are going. Many were like that

but that doesn't have anything to do with running away & not fighting

[quaint karma]

theres no problem with that

[barren jackal]

yes exactly

Refxrmedapex on the other hand seemed to hate everything and anything that isn't using strafe aiming or dodging with global bias

[warped lake]

Bro

I saw a guy on tiktok

With like the most insane video config on R5

How

[quaint karma]

whose tiktok?

[barren jackal]

huh when

[quaint karma]

i have the config

if you want it

[warped lake]

Yes please

I’m trying to figure out how to do it

I can’t remember let me look

[quaint karma]

the no visual clutter one i guess?

if its another one then idk

[barren jackal]

oh video configs

mb i misread

i was so confused for a moment LMFAO

but yeah I have them too

[quaint karma]

https://twitter.com/2nekosu/status/1783910446745194923

ً (@2nekosu) on X

since there are a lot of people asking for my r5 cfg

replace config_default_pc.cfg with
https://t.co/fq5vf8zESC (r5 directory -> cfg)

at the start of each round you have to reset mnk settings to default for your game to look normal

Twitter · Apr 26, 2024, 5:26 PM

[barren jackal]

even though i'm not using them

[warped lake]

Thank you very much

[barren jackal]

too big of a hustle to reset the video settings to default every time you launch it

[warped lake]

Also I don’t know if it’s me, but how do people’s aim assist literally just stick

On R5

[quaint karma]

im ngl it seems a bit unfair but since everyone is using that shit now

im gonna try it

[warped lake]

I feel like I get ZERO rotational whatever it is

[quaint karma]

i was thinking i should play with visual clutter cuz main game has it

but whats the point really

dont do it in kovaaks either

[barren jackal]

anti-mirror

[quaint karma]

depends on the range

other than that its just stick control

[warped lake]

Yeah the guy I saw was just beaming

[quaint karma]

nekosu?

or extric

[barren jackal]

koyful?

[warped lake]

Found it

[quaint karma]

he doesnt upload r5 tiktoks

[warped lake]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL731vb2/

[quaint karma]

yeah thats extric

[barren jackal]

oh yeah right

[warped lake]

Yes bro

[quaint karma]

how he does this?

[warped lake]

His R5 aim

[quaint karma]

hes one of the best players in the world lol

[warped lake]

Looks like my main game aim

[quaint karma]

theres no difference

its just that people strafe evasively in r5

and dont on the main game

[barren jackal]

You can see that he anti-mirrors every time and he has good movement reading. And obviously good stick control

[warped lake]

It might honestly be that

Idk

I’m getting on R5

I’m not selling rn I’m literally two games from masters

[quaint karma]

you play controller?

whats your name on r5

[quaint karma]

yeah these clips are kinda cheap idk

just a lot of anti mirrors

but hes good outside of that too

[barren jackal]

yeah he seems to have good reactivity and awareness of movement

[quaint karma]

extric has 11% higher acc than you

if this is also you, youre getting there ig

you wanna shoot for at least like 38 acc imo

preferably higher

best players in the world get 42+

[barren jackal]

for what though?

[quaint karma]

idk, aiming better always helps

[barren jackal]

ah you just mean if you hit 38 acc then you can consider your aim as decent?

i don't have a feeling for acc numbers that's why i'm asking

[warped lake]

oEmrys and qEmrys

[quaint karma]

well

anything between lets say

28 and 35 acc is mnk range

above that is where you wanna be on controller

at this range

else what is the point?

these are close range fights and youre donig no better than mnk

[warped lake]

Yeah my long range is awful

[barren jackal]

koy is god himself wtf are those stats

[quaint karma]

and thast exactly where mnk shines as well

[warped lake]

That’s normally where I lose

Which is fine, because it’s practice

But ideally I prefer being where my AA is most sticky

[quaint karma]

if youre in the process of swaping to controller, it takes a long time

long range is really hard

[warped lake]

Yeah this is my very first season on controller

And my first time playing controller in over ten years

[quaint karma]

was the same for me

[warped lake]

Idk man, I got tired of losing my ones after 20 seasons

[quaint karma]

im ngl it probably took me about almost a year to get my long range to where i was on mnk

i think i might just be better now? but i grind a lot of long range specificallyt

i never did on mnk

i just played the game and did close range basically

[warped lake]

Yeah my long range is not there at all 😂. My close to mid range in game though, it’s peak 😂

[quaint karma]

hes the best player in the world by far

there was this other guy, xander

he had higher acc

idk where his stats went

i guess you can still find him but for some reason he doesnt show up

in the lb

[barren jackal]

yeah i know but it's crazy how much better he is in comparision to everyone else

[warped lake]

Normally I just get stuck with playing against people like this in the LFG

[quaint karma]

ive been grinding aimtraining on roller for a year, my overall acc is 42 on my newest acc

ARs are near koyfuls ARs cuz for some reason controller players suck at ARs

but his smgs are just so good

[warped lake]

I’m excited to get on now

[quaint karma]

see what i mean

actually higher than his ARs

idk hes the best, just a freak of nature

actually just raw talent

cjracked is really good also

which is funny cuz they were discovered together

like 2 years ago

im sure he grinds a bunch but so does everyone else

no other pro roller player is even near him

verhulsts stats for example are terrible in comparison

[warped lake]

Wait

My HS accuracy is better than Verhulst

My acc isn’t far from him

Wtf

[lusty citrus]

anyone know how to make kovaaks sensitivity the same as in apex

[barren jackal]

you can set the game to Apex and just set the sensitivity to your apex sens

[barren jackal]

but don't use your Apex sens for everything. The best thing you can do is set the sens scale to cm/360 instead of Apex. It's the universal way to measure sensivity across all games

and whenever you want to convert your Apex sens to cm/360, you can go here https://jscalc.io/embed/Q1gf45VCY4tmm2dq

I am telling you that because sensitivity in aim training is meant to be used as a tool and not every scenario is meant to be played with the same sens. Every type of scenario has a certain sens range which it's meant to be played with

and if you ask people something like "oh, what's the best sens range for short strafe tracking" they will most likely answer you with a number in cm/360

[lusty citrus]

awesome thank u

[ornate gorge]

i do that 🌝

muahahaha

[quaint karma]

too far

[barren jackal]

btw is mirroring even useful in actual Apex? When I'm watching the kill cams the desync seems to be so bad that I'm not even mirroring them in their pov

the difference from what I'm seeing on my screen and what they are seeing on their screen seems to be so insane

[visual bluff]

kill cam isnt always right

also yes mirroring is worth mirror strafe is good vs roller

[barren jackal]

yeah that's what I thought at least

[barren jackal]

hmm okay i have to blindly trust it i guess

[visual bluff]

if you go on r5r and do 1v1s its pretty easy to feel

[barren jackal]

yes i know

that's why i'm talking about the actual Apex feeling so weird

[dull falcon]

idk if i should solo q or lfg in that apex server

[woeful garnet]

Everyone in the apex legends discord is terrible

But maybe youll find someone

[wintry cypress]

Well killcam is supposed to be a recreation of what happened im pretty sure

But apex has 20 tick servers so...

[twilit flicker]

ye its a bad recreation

not accurate

[twilit flicker]

dw about your kd

just play to improve

[strange canyon]

@lucid lark how's 32cm feel

Yeh

[wintry cypress]

What sens were u on

[strange canyon]

I'll be on in a bit

Gonna eat first

[frozen narwhal]

Your sensitivity is 32.6571 cm/360°

Your sensitivity is 1.3322

[wintry cypress]

Zamn

[compact oracle]

1.2 is goated and no one can convince me otherwise

[wintry cypress]

1.3 is fire too

Bit faster since 1.2 feels too slow still

[compact oracle]

Yea 1.2 is pretty slow for movement as well. I used it to compensate for my lack of smoothness , but since i improved now i consider coing a bit higher again 1.5 or so

[random thistle]

What's This?

[alpine trail]

lesgooo

+2

xdd

[regal cloak]

GG EZ

@alpine trail

[alpine trail]

we cooked

[regal cloak]

[wintry cypress]

My smoothness has always been good but my precision and whatnot not as much

[frigid bramble]

1.7 sens goat

[charred plank]

full hipfire 😦

[frozen narwhal]

Your sensitivity is 32.4716 cm/360°

Your sensitivity is 46.6531 cm/360°

[frozen narwhal]

Your sensitivity is 37.1104 cm/360°

Your sensitivity is 32.4716 cm/360°

[main merlin]

I feel like you need a fast pad to main a low sens in apex

[arctic violet]

underrated scen

[misty aspen]

why there only 200 latency players on EU XD

[mental ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/s/VPoWV9dXUG

[strange canyon]

apex just crashed twice for me

ok it happens when i try to switch my character in control

[alpine trail]

apex is most broken game I've ever played lol

[raven hull]

probably true, i play 43cm and have a skypad

other 43cm users i know have skypads or raidens

[twilit flicker]

u dont need a fast pad

but it helps

[unborn token]

[mental ridge]

does somebody have doki vs movement clips

[dull falcon]

waht does this mean

[mental ridge]

clips where doki beams insane movement players

[wintry cypress]

just r5 no?

i think he had a long ass R5 vod

[barren jackal]

not really

Hollow is running low sens on slow pad

and people like forbi are running high sens on skypad

i think he is on like 18cm lol

yup

everything can work if you're just comfortable with it

[obsidian glacier]

literally just a preference thing

[unborn token]

3d place bc we hard int

complete random tournament first time playing w the other guy

[warped lake]

@dull falcon

i see u

[dull falcon]

accept bro

[dull falcon]

he has plenty just check on his channel

[stray flicker]

lf1 1v1 eu

[warped lake]

how do you accept

[dull falcon]

type /accept

[dull falcon]

^

[warped lake]

do it again

I DC’d

[dull falcon]

oof

[unborn token]

the suckings

[unborn token]

come chall me r5

if yr still playing

[warped lake]

@dull falcon i'm going to main game now

but

i'll be on later

[unborn token]

only played uncharted

feel weird mnk now

bc roller

[dull falcon]

rip u will get there

[unborn token]

terrible

i am fisting some of them but i fucking cant ad spam

wouldve been 60 32

[dull falcon]

i just got off

[unborn token]

stronk

reactive

[unborn token]

oh

i literally havent touched fucking mnk

in the last 3 days

just played roller for uncharted

[dull falcon]

its been lke a moth and some weeks for me

i touched it like 4 days ago i gave up since im washed and my mice were dead ( 10 percent battery)

[unborn token]

Yr not washed

If I actually warmed up before this tour week thing today

That dijai asked me to play

I'd be fucking farming

Literally lost a fight due to like just feeling off

I connect one more bullet and then we insta wipe duo..

31.62 acc atm on mnk

I can ez get 33.5

Or 35

Goal is to be top 5 acc

[dull falcon]

i still feel more comfortable on mnk aside that feeling u get in ur mind when ur at the edge of ur mousepad

[unborn token]

Eh

Roller players are kinda

Not super useful in this meta anyway

Mnk just plays bang shoots range and does Abt the same in fights w more impact

Or just hound and fry everything that exists

[ocean flame]

what

[dull falcon]

havoc meta burst meta

[unborn token]

Wdym what

[ocean flame]

thats true but not relevant to us

[zinc herald]

can somebody pls fucking explain to me, why my aim looks good in one game but ass in a different game

[devout tusk]

Cuz ur ass

In the other game

[zinc herald]

but apex and xdefient are both tracking heavy games so even if im bad i should at least be able to hit my shots but apparently fucking not

[north epoch]

that moment when you see a big ass dip in your scores

[hot river]

Ive been having good solo q ranked games up until now. Gold 2 suddenly my teammates got worse. I wouldn't even say the teams im fighting are better but my teammates definitely aren't doing enough. I only had maybe a few games with decent teammates, a couple unlucky games where we got third partied. Several games were I get the first knock and we still lose the fight 💀

[north epoch]

was that in a span of 24 hours or more?

[north epoch]

if it's something that happened in a day or 2 then it's just the weekend. they're generally very bad for solo q
also a general rule of thumb would be not to expect anything from teammates until diamond. you can easily reach plat with no skill simply by grinding so you already get a mixed bag of all sorts of skill levels. i think plat 2 is where you start getting some decent teammates more often.

[hot river]

I definitely notice a difference, I played solo q ranked last weekend I went from gold 4 to gold 2 and had good teammates the whole time and I never went negative.

[north epoch]

and you said no difference in enemy levels?

[north epoch]

so you've been gold 2 for how many hours of playtime now?

trying to help you pinpoint the issue if possible. you can ignore me if you don't feel like it

[hot river]

I actually got gold 1 by 2 points. I did win one game today. Then i went back to gold 2. Ive in gold two for maybe 3 hours i played three hours today

[hot river]

I mean maybe a slight difference, its more maybe im fighting more three stacks than I was before. The enemy teams are obviously more coordinated compared to my teammates. Idk I just feel a difference when my teammates are more aggressive, I do better. I feel like my teammates are too passive sometimes and I end up losing bcs of it

Im not hardstuck or anything I know I can ranked up, its honestly depending on what teammates i end up getting

[north epoch]

then it's probably just that, the moment you hit second of any rank you start venturing into the rank above you actually, so you're probably fighting more plats. the higher you go the more often you'll meet 3 stacks as well
as for playing passive and aggressive, i know that feeling well, unless you are generally cracked at the game, it's best to keep a good balance between aggressive and passive. you don't want to be too passive as you ideally want to team wipe once or twice. being aggressive is good in pubs but in ranked most of your average gold/plat teammates in solo q will not perform well when their teammate is aggressive. they're not skilled or confident enough to want to fight

IGLing probably works best, and ideally you want to play a role of an anchor. if team is too passive, do become an entry fragger but don't over do it.

i think it's either you're having a bad session (happens to the best of us) or you're still getting used to plat lobby pacing

[hot river]

Yeah i definitely got into some plat lobbies for sure. Funny enough I did better in those games bcs of the extra kp i got from killing some plat players. But yeah I just gotta power through. Im not having a bad season lol, I actually went positive today in points. Im just frustrated by some of the games

[north epoch]

you're doing better than me, my session today was getting 10k kills per season 3 stacks and my teammates were level 300 and 17s 😭

wasn't just a game or 2 either it was a common theme throughout the day

[woeful garnet]

well xdefiant has a much faster ttk and 0 recoil

also the fact that movement is slower in xdefiant

two pretty different games honestly you cant even compare it

[mental ridge]

wym tracking heavy and xdefiant the ttk is soooo low switching and recoil controll is so much more relevant

[mental ridge]

wym recoil is so much more in xdefiant than in apex

apex has seemingly ni recoil compared to xdefiant

@hot river in gold 2 u start to play against enemies that are in gold 2 to plat 3 and u play with teammates from that rank range aswell

[woeful garnet]

i got em mixed up

but point still stands theyre completely different

[mental ridge]

yes

[twilit flicker]

use it at the start of team fights

speed boost makes pushing really easy

[unborn token]

depends on character

on hound you use ult for fights and running people down off of dmg

w bang smokes

[terse remnant]

anyone have a fix for high ping on apex? i get 80 ping on Amsterdam servers when i am supposed to get 40. anyone know the problem (its like this for all the servers for me)

[torn coral]

Hey guys, what’s the best headphones for a laptop that has no Dolby or dts. I’d like to use it for apex and to listen to music.
I’ve ordered a senzer sg500, SteelSeries arctic nova 3 and sennheiser hd560 s. The first two sounded very awful and the sennheiser wasn’t a 3.5mm. I’d ideally not like to mess with any eq settings

[unborn token]

get either cloud 2s

or

dt990s

peak apex

[terse remnant]

my ping used to be 50 on amsterdam, last week was 65 yesterday 80 and now today 100

nice game

[slim tulip]

Stretched Res vs Native - what u play on?

[light rapids]

And you can bet your life that your opponent wasn't lagging 🔥

[mental ridge]

there are way to connect the hd560s to the 3.5mm jack

[dull falcon]

Anyone wanna rank today?

[unborn token]

native

is way better

slower models

although thinner

streched is just bigger models but faster

not super good

unless y do decent 16:10

[twilit flicker]

just play native

its already hard to see in this game

idk why u wanna make it even harder

[compact oracle]

@dull falcon are you KamisWrxld on r5?

@unborn token accept chal

[unborn token]

did it acc

[compact oracle]

i have to send again i think

[unborn token]

@compact oraclegg

[compact oracle]

wp, im happy i could secure some rounds but i think it was like 20-60 or so

[unborn token]

man my obs is capturing fucking

apex

[unborn token]

i ssed both monitors

-5 deaths i had from the start and kills

78 22

[compact oracle]

oh xD

[unborn token]

or 25

idk

i got some nasty sprays on y i couldve cliped

but fuck obs

more bias and dont try to perma mirror me

[compact oracle]

yea im trying to improve my strafe but its hard

[unborn token]

bc you let me control the fight

almost everytime

[compact oracle]

alr

[unborn token]

so everytime i swing

i have you on a 2 like sided box

and you can barely go anywhere bc im comanding the strafe

and you try to adjust to it by mirroring me

which i counter by anti or i full on go one side

and makes it weird for u to aim

at me

[compact oracle]

ah thats what you initated with the slide juump at the beginning right

[unborn token]

you broke it like a couple of time

[unborn token]

yup

[compact oracle]

got it

[unborn token]

bc your instant reaction is to mirror me

so i just control the fight directly

gg ima play uncharted now

tdmed some fucking waller na dog team

before

[compact oracle]

i understand , ty for the feedback i appreciate it

[flat coral]

WHERE is my pride 2024 badge

I want new rainbow

old rainbow simply is not enough

[unborn token]

nw

lmk when y wanna chall again

i should also fix some shit bc it costs me

some fights i should be hard winning

i hit y 188 spray on one and then

just died somehow

dk if i shouldve wider strafeds

[compact oracle]

Like 10 of the 20 something rounds I won where when I hit a good spray while you were in the air and then landed a wing man headshot when you crouched. When you were normal strafing it was really hard to hit you 😅

[compact oracle]

Will do

[unborn token]

propably should stop crouching too much

you got pov of it

i couldnt clip mine

[compact oracle]

ah no too late i only record last 5min and didnt clip

i can clip it next time

[unborn token]

time to uncharted gaming

[unborn token]

aightaight

🗣️

[compact oracle]

whats the hype about uncharted

[unborn token]

never got to play uncharted

and 4 was my favorite from the gameplays i saw

and the story

never had a chance to play uncharted 4 until a week ago

also im a pirate nerd

[compact oracle]

i never played it too 😄 maybe have to check it out then

[unborn token]

@vague nexus

literally you

[sharp ice]

facts

[vague nexus]

thats nosh actually

[mental ridge]

guilty

[devout tusk]

me asking where the bats are