apex

[unborn token]

Does he know

[bright elm]

[woeful garnet]

i havent seen an mnk player in weeks

[hot river]

my sens suddenly feels super fast out of nowhere its 1.59 at 800 dpi but it feels like its much higher in game for some reason

[mental ridge]

mouse accelerate disabled Ingame

[ornate gorge]

check windows too

[mortal hatch]

@toxic saddle
as for 2, yeah there is a way to kick people

[versed shale]

there is def enough room for mnk servers

back in s1 and 2 it was mostly mnk players

[north epoch]

pretty sure quite a bit of controller players will have no problem switching back to MnK if the queue was restricted

[versed shale]

why do I see pro players spam in and out or ads?

[hot river]

tighten hipfire

[devout tusk]

Eu is still 90% rollers

Oh you mean r5 mybad

[north epoch]

all of apex is 90% rollers 😭

[alpine trail]

most people play console anyway, and I lowkey wouldn’t go back to mnk sorry, especially with crossplay (segregation of inputs also sounds terrible)

People on voltaic EU just suck ass most of the time

Or perhaps it’s because Karma is dominated by aa

[wintry cypress]

huh

[alpine trail]

isnt eu mostly mnk?

kinda confused lol

[mortal hatch]

apac-s on top

come we have mnk here:)

apac-n mnk ppl are goated too

[mental ridge]

i want seriose statistics on how much each input is used by respawn

[raven hull]

they are mostly roller

its already known

[mortal hatch]

pretty sure u can find platform income on their business stuff because EA is a publicly traded company

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

@raven hull gets it

[raven hull]

[mortal hatch]

https://x.com/Killoposz1/status/1794703955026735263

Killoposz (@Killoposz1) on X

Boogie Boarders is looking to represent an Organization for the EWC and future tournaments.
Contact @xHeatlifer for any inquiries

Twitter · May 26, 2024, 12:15 PM

did the lfo gfx for bgb

someone needs to sign them

free ewc spot come on

[mental ridge]

we wanna have Statics about how many people on pc actively play controller vs actively play mnk

[mortal hatch]

bit too specific but that would be nice to have but catastrophic to publicize lol

i can already feel the community anger

[raven hull]

we need the anger to fuel our aim training

[mortal hatch]

b-but game knowledge !

[mental ridge]

i mean its literally gonna show that most people play controller coz mnk just isnt advantageous to play unless u spend ten thousands of hours on it

[mortal hatch]

Zer0 just VT Smoothbot'd this guy
https://youtu.be/z_294Hp1ylU?si=73mbdC5VinDs7EIK&t=208

[mortal hatch]

yeah but performative uncertainty in apex is just one piece of the puzzle

it plateaus at some point and that's where other aspects of the game start playing a bigger role

but i can understand why people would rather focus on that very specific aspect

it's the same with speedrunning other games and doing perfect runs on others

[mental ridge]

but the majority never hits this spot

[mortal hatch]

it's the matter of "performance"

yeah

but also apex is trying to avoid this concept in game theory/game design called

"grognard capture"

By extention, grognard capture means capture of a game style by the hardest-core and most experienced players—to the ultimate exclusion of others.

im not saying their implementation is good or perfect, im not qualified to do so, but i can assume that's probs why they're so welcoming to the roller input and refuses to make big changes

[mental ridge]

in other words tgey want to avoid that people have to put in alot of effort to get gud

[mortal hatch]

that's a bit of a stretch

[mental ridge]

i mean they actively allow aimassist on pc to the point where the majority uses controller and many mnk players who are not soley dedicated to apex wander off

[mortal hatch]

yes but back to this point, its not always a 1v1

[visual bluff]

basically what happens in arena fps games a lot

[mortal hatch]

unless ur maining tdms/solos

pros have put in thousands of hours to get good

performative uncertainty is but a small piece of the game called apex

[mental ridge]

they blurr the lines between good and bad controller players by leaving realy impactfull aimassist wich in its core just aimbot wich reacts to a aimassist bubble

[mortal hatch]

good roller players are good strafers

you can see this in the way koyful plays around his input

and good mnk players are good readers

you can see this in the way zer0 would counter against a roller player

[mortal hatch]

yeah, CS at some point was suffering from this

[mental ridge]

the fact u have to compensate and treat controller players like soft cheaters is concerning imo

[mortal hatch]

but they're kinda ok now idk i dont rly play CS nowadays

CS 6 years ago was much easier than CS now

is the comparison i wanted to say

same goes to apex tbh

suddenly knowing how to shoot isnt enough for pred

[mental ridge]

yes Obviously and when its not about beeing a 1v1 its more or pess equally accessible to both inputs compared to straight fast 1v1s

[mortal hatch]

now you have to figure out circles and where ppl usually hide/fight, how slow/fast an average ranked player in ur lobby is, % prevalence of cheaters in the lobby, etc.

[alpine trail]

% of cheaters

now we have to calculate that

[mortal hatch]

im from apac and its a genuine game strat preds/master regulars here do

[visual bluff]

in NA in masters/diamond u should be doing that as well

[mortal hatch]

i cant change it, so ill just adjustwww
huge cope

[visual bluff]

like knowing how many cheaters there are and who is likely cheating and playing around it

[mortal hatch]

yea

its pain and it ruins the game but at the same time its a BR

if its not a cheater its an incredibly omega-cracked team

[alpine trail]

just expect to get 1clipped everytime u fight

[mortal hatch]

just have to play against it and make your payoff the best you possibly could given circumstances and skill

then just go next

no one improves by not playing after all

[north epoch]

i 100% agree, aside from how good roller players abuse their aim assist range, it's actually a sign of a good player to know how and when to avoid AA range.

[mortal hatch]

u can see this in the playstyle of apac north pro teams

[north epoch]

either get too close to their face or beam them from somewhere far

[mortal hatch]

AA abuses and exploits are popular in the casual playerbase of the region

[mental ridge]

those atleast deserve some kind of respect for their performance

[mortal hatch]

the mnk pros and even the rollers have some of the best movement ive seen

they bullet dance everything

EN-speaking community just don't rly talk much about them bc of timezone diff and language/cultural differences

but their practice is very intensive

[alpine trail]

[mental ridge]

en is dominated by proud americans who ofc are the best without any question

[north epoch]

if we're talking top 1%. i have to admit i cannot play the ranked experience without a controller teammate, my team consists of me (MnK) and 2 controller. i crack people/support from the long/mid range, while they get close enough to abuse their AA

[mortal hatch]

just to remind everyone REJECT Winnity won APAC-N Regional Finals Split 1 in 4 games

[alpine trail]

i mean reject is a good team

[mortal hatch]

yeah usually is the case

and also

this has been a topic in the pred/ranked grinding community

how rollers enable you to be

1. more consistent
2. game for longer

with #2 playing a bigger role in maintaining pred

[mortal hatch]

yeah they are

[north epoch]

yup. since i'm usually the support, it kinda balances itself out

we log off around the same time

since they do a huge chunk of the dmg for me

[mortal hatch]

have to give credit to insane mnk goats too tho

doki's pretty damn good

[north epoch]

oh forgot to say, i'm currently top 500 pred which is why im speaking like this

[mortal hatch]

ah so you know of the pains i speak of

[north epoch]

indeed i do 😭

[mortal hatch]

"look at the fucking sky" when dropping

teammates dont look

get surprised why we got early rotated on

[mortal hatch]

gonext

such is life

im sorry owo this is not ur place

[north epoch]

we have 2 teams dropping with us
proceeds to get shot and be surprised about it

[mortal hatch]

this is about nihilistic apex

[mortal hatch]

a tale as old as time

any new comp player/gold-ranked player should learn how to loot fast before they learn how to shoot

jk

[alpine trail]

its rude shooting off-drop

[north epoch]

or those who delve into ring too deep and too long then cimplain about not having heals/ getting gate kept

[mortal hatch]

anyway i analyze these games for a living let me know if i get something wrong

[visual bluff]

maybe im wrong but i feel like input doesnt matter much at lower levels of skill
like im not insane at the game or anything but there are tons of bad roller players i can farm on r5r like i win 9 out of 10 times
i think a lot of mnk players feel bad about being mnk and it kinda fucks there confidence when it really shouldnt

[mortal hatch]

i remember doing the maths for ring tick dmg back when lifeline and crypto-car was the meta in ranked

lmfao

fkin pain

[mortal hatch]

i think its a self-fulfilling prophecy altho it does impact something but i dont have enough data points, nor experience, to say what it is and what it isn't

[visual bluff]

yea i guess its hard to say without numbers on the subject

[mortal hatch]

yeah genuinely difficult to do so

[north epoch]

it's mostly true because the average player doesn't know how to distinguish between getting beamed from AA or missing all their shots

[mortal hatch]

also playing for positions/line of sight/cover

stuff like that

[north epoch]

it's all murky territory

[mortal hatch]

like even if its a 1:1 ur not gonna win an R9-Havoc trade

apex is such a complex and technically deep game

and there's only a few people who have it figured out

[north epoch]

r99 is a watergun now 😭

[mortal hatch]

the analysts usually

yeah

it sux

[alpine trail]

r99 is a joke we dont talk about r99 here

[mortal hatch]

it looks cool tho

:(

pew pew come on roller teammate do something

[alpine trail]

OMG NEW REACTIVE SKIN GUYS BUY IT NOW!

oh wait we forgor

[north epoch]

buy exotic shards first

[alpine trail]

its still bad but BUY IT PLS PRETTY

[mortal hatch]

havoc winning without doing anything

kekw

[alpine trail]

havoc goes beaming

[mental ridge]

no its more like how u gonna judge wich roller player is equally good to you aim wise ? there is 40% aimbot helping him

[north epoch]

it's sad that the havoc has a place now because r301 and flatline are nerfed to the ground
man i miss the old flatty hipfire

[mental ridge]

if u shit on a roller 9/10 hes absolutely nowhere near the tier below you

[alpine trail]

based on their strafing and stick control?

[mental ridge]

thats just makro adjustments

[visual bluff]

i wouldnt judge based on aim its not comparable i would judge based on strafe

[north epoch]

i dunno where i heard it it, but wasn't their an idea that a roller player is actually 1 rank below their MnK counter-part? like a diamond roller is actually as skilled as a plat MnK or something like that

[mental ridge]

so basically they can only learn strafe intensely and completely avoid having to build insane micro adjustment skills

[ocean flame]

Comp apex stats and r5 accuracy stats should give a pretty good indication of the difference, no?

[north epoch]

i think roller players are a clear example of how aimbot can carry you, literally half the controller randoms i get have zero game sense up to diamond and even masters sometimes

[mental ridge]

i like to say playing low sense controller is a real time strategy game
u do macro stick adjustments on both sticks coz the left one is only for movement and the right one has aimassist (compared to without aimassist u realy just need to do "macro adjustments ")

[visual bluff]

not saying they are equally difficult but its really the only point of comparison

[alpine trail]

i mean u dont need it if u can win most of your fights just cuz of AA

[north epoch]

AA stop carrying you at SOME point tho

[alpine trail]

and when AA doesnt help cuz gap in game sense is too big they just get stressed mostly

[north epoch]

i think the problem is that the majority of MnK dont know how to counter-AA

ofc we're only talking ranked here, not pubs

[ocean flame]

Wdym

[alpine trail]

just mirror or distance or like dont fight if u see AFK loot goblin

[mental ridge]

yeah at skill levels that make u a pro

[north epoch]

if you only abuse AA without the other fundementals, good MnK players can easily beam you

[ocean flame]

Roller players get to joyfully 1mag everyone even in pred if theyre half decent

[alpine trail]

yeah mostly

[alpine trail]

uhh idk man

[visual bluff]

this is so true with regard to strafing, bad rollers are free one clips if you mirror strafe them

[north epoch]

that's my point, you need the other fundamentals, i'm not arguing if AA is powerful because it's an undisputed fact that it is

[alpine trail]

AA wont make u smarter and in pred lobbies u actually need to use ur brain sometimes and aiming is not 100% of the game

like playing off cover and other stuff

[north epoch]

exactly

[alpine trail]

but AA still hepls a ton i mean

[north epoch]

in pred at least, as an MnK, you somewhat have your own role

[alpine trail]

true but just dont get too cocky

[north epoch]

you can't be the entry fragger anymore

that's just facts

[alpine trail]

yeah its not old apex anymore

[ocean flame]

Asami what pred number r u

[north epoch]

so abuse your MnK privilege and beam from afar while your controller pets help you out

[alpine trail]

no but the problem is in pred lobbies many players arent legit

and u know it prolly

[north epoch]

currently 453

[north epoch]

i do, i get killed by a cheater 3 times out of 5

[alpine trail]

i mean pred lobbies are just too tricky ngl u cant be sure about shit

[north epoch]

it's been tough, we're resorting to playing on NA despite being from EU because there are less chances to fight cheaters

they tend to avoid streamers

[alpine trail]

yeah NA is easier on avg than pred lobby

because of cheaters not playing NA because BUT WHAT IF I KILL A STREAMER???

[alpine trail]

and ohh guys i think i killed some streamer im getting flagged oh nooo

[north epoch]

it's tough because you're fighting pro teams, 250 ping asians and cheaters, while you yourself are on 150~180 ping. it's a mess lol

[alpine trail]

we are pros at dealing with that stuff alrd

[alpine trail]

its not like we are scared of it anymore

[visual bluff]

last season in masters there were so many cheaters
not even like subtle "maybe walling" types i mean just like aimboting on low level account to boost people they are queing with

[north epoch]

it's even worse this season

[raven hull]

not even masters i ran into plenty going through plat

i mean shit ive run into plenty in plat this season too

but they are braindead and if they dont wipe you on the first try you can easily kill them

[alpine trail]

depends on how hard theyre cheating

and ohh u know those nades they throw?

[raven hull]

most are just walling or soft aim, some have been hard aim botting

[north epoch]

basic skin pathfinder who beamed you from narnia with a havoc/r99 and when you search his profile, he's level 37 or some shit

[visual bluff]

i was kinda already sensing that in diamond rn
im kinda worried because i dont really see the issue getting better

[raven hull]

oh yeah

the pocket nades

ive died to 3 of those yesterday

and a few the day before

[alpine trail]

guys we are dying to nukes at this point -me 4 hours into rank session

[north epoch]

yeah i lost faith already. this will probably be my last serious ranked split

[raven hull]

you dont even see the nade being thrown its just in your ass and you are dead

[alpine trail]

guys watch the sky guys WATCH THE SKY

[north epoch]

i was going to drop ranked last season after i got pred in split 1 but guess who didn't get their badge

because guess who fucked the ranked reset?

[raven hull]

[alpine trail]

so real

[raven hull]

i just wish i didnt have omega brain damage and could position properly

[raven hull]

id probably get masters fine, instead i get myself killed 99% of the time and get stuck in diamond

[alpine trail]

how is that even possible

[visual bluff]

i was so mad i hit masters split 1 last season and then i was like

[raven hull]

They hate you

[visual bluff]

fuck i ahve to do this again

[alpine trail]

but the 666.66 AVG dmg tho

[visual bluff]

did it again tho and got the badge but it sucked

[raven hull]

and a nice clean 3500

[alpine trail]

wanna 1v1?

[north epoch]

imagine how i felt hitting pred for the first at #156!! and then not getting it

[alpine trail]

yeah so real

are you online rn?

[raven hull]

just do it again then - Respawn, probably

[visual bluff]

i would be throwing shit man
thats such a scam

[alpine trail]

yeah i think i have you in my f list

[north epoch]

i did throw shit, i was so mad, and yet no one at respawn seems to care

[visual bluff]

the worst part was respawns own help page legit lied

[alpine trail]

they dont care

[raven hull]

yeah but did you buy all the new skins and exotic shards

no? then fuck you

• respawn

[mental ridge]

they completely discredited the first split as if it was just for show

[visual bluff]

like it said the way it would work would be one way
then it worked another way
on top of the people who got bugged

[north epoch]

havent bought a single skin or event since.

probably not buying anything ever again

[alpine trail]

yeah exactly

[raven hull]

Based

[north epoch]

my teammate was #76 and didn't get the badge, the dude was playing 7 hours a day

and he didn't get rewarded

[raven hull]

thats rough

the whole 2nd slit decides your rank is mind boggling

it makes literally 0 sense

i cannot see a situation at all where its logical

[visual bluff]

i wont buy anything again until i see WAY less cheaters tbh
its just not worth investing in a game that doesnt invest in back in itself
if my money was going back to the game i would be ok with it but its just going like some shareholders 4th super car or something

[north epoch]

let's be honest, that wasnot intended to happen so they just slapped that as a quick fix

[raven hull]

4th car? more like 4th beach front property

[north epoch]

"oh sorry guys, we forgot to tell you, split 1 don't count"

[visual bluff]

yea idk why they didnt just admit it was a mistake

instead of trying to gaslight the community about it

[north epoch]

legal issue probably

[visual bluff]

honestly hopefully cuz its either that or their just assholes

[north epoch]

no they're assholes either way

ok im getting mad now

gotta go breath a little

[visual bluff]

understandable honestly

[visual bluff]

real

[north epoch]

btw i wanted to ask but how many hours did it take you to get voltaic master?

if you can highball it

[raven hull]

id say atleast 3

maybe even 4

[north epoch]

[visual bluff]

honestly no idea cuz i didnt grind benchmarks much i would just play them once in a while

like i had a lot of hours on kovaaks before i even did voltaic

[raven hull]

What are you currently asami?

[visual bluff]

also im like a tracking 1 trick
my tracking is gm nearly nova but my static click is diamond

[raven hull]

mind you my tracking is diamond / jade and my clicking isnt even plat

so i guess that checks out

[north epoch]

i just srated out with VT too and my aim don't seem to be translating well into kovaaks, i'm like plat on the benchmarks

[visual bluff]

if you just started out plat is really good

[raven hull]

yeah thats pretty goated as a start

[north epoch]

i aimed trained before for a while so im not completely new

[visual bluff]

i know tier 2 pros in other games who started out in plat when they started aim training

[raven hull]

i mean there was a T1 OW pro who is plat VT

and i know a few other preds who are also plat/ diamond

kinda proves game sense is everything

[visual bluff]

yea

also its like playing a sport professional verse people who do stuff in the gym professionally

two different things

[north epoch]

that's quite interesting, i started aim training because it's my weakest point. i IGL for my team so i know my positioning and game sense is top notch but aim.....that's just a sad story

[visual bluff]

if you aim train and play r5r 1v1 enough u can fix that

[raven hull]

see my aim is the best thing about me....and even then its ass. So you can imagine what my game sense is like

i need to improve massively

[visual bluff]

honestly mechs is the most straight forward thing to improve
you just do the training somewhat mindfully and it just gets better

[raven hull]

i just dont have enough hours to know what i should and shouldnt be doing

i have 1.3k since launch

[north epoch]

i didn't have fun getting neo-strafed wingman headshotted but i guess i'll re-install it again

[raven hull]

so they are VERY spread

[visual bluff]

the movement people usually arent that good at aiming
if you played a long time ago before they banned configs tho it was rough

[north epoch]

yeah that was it, over a year ago was the last time i played r5

[visual bluff]

could have been roller using configs then

[north epoch]

even more probably

[raven hull]

r5 banned roller configs before the main game

really says a lot

[visual bluff]

yea

[raven hull]

about how much respawn actually care

[north epoch]

so it's better now. ok im hyped

[visual bluff]

the only reason the main game banned them is cuz ppl were making like FULL on cheats basically

[raven hull]

they only did something because that config sellers video got huge publicity

hes made mnk configs now as well..

uploaded a video on them like 2 weeks ago

[raven hull]

just turned the game into a turn based game

lol

[north epoch]

jitter aiming configs are running rampant now

[raven hull]

it played itself

[north epoch]

mostly in pubs tho

as for ranked, why use configs when you can cheat

[visual bluff]

its about half controller players now but honestly its good practice
it teaches you to strafe well

[alpine trail]

theyre scared of getting banned

[north epoch]

LOL

[visual bluff]

lmao

[north epoch]

i eat controller players for breakfast

#copium

[raven hull]

i get flattened by them

#notcope

[mental ridge]

#realisticum

[raven hull]

[mental ridge]

[raven hull]

i think im going to start recording my gameplay and then just bullying the shit out of myself for every minor mistake

that seems like a healthy thing to do

[north epoch]

oh tha is a great idea

doing just that got me from gold to diamond in 1 season i believe

then it started getting a little hard to see my own mistakes and i may have splurged and had a few coaching sessions to help me out.

[north epoch]

you'd be surprised, it's usually just 1 or 2 major things that gets you killed, it won't be too bad

[raven hull]

probably, i tend to go into auto pilot in fights because i dont know how to play

and my auto pilot is pure tunnel vision

and i di

e

[north epoch]

check if you're that type that chases kills

that used to get me killed quite a bit

[raven hull]

nah i think im also not careful enough about my shots

[north epoch]

i was desperate to get those kills. so i'd chase him to his teammates and get beamed

[raven hull]

i play probably too concretively and push at the complete wrong time

i play safe when i should push and push when i should play cover

atleast thats what it feels like

[north epoch]

yeah it'll be clearer once you record your games

i recommend outplayed if you don't have a program in mind

really good for quickly sorting through all of your recordings

[raven hull]

i was just going to use obs, whats different about outplayed

and tbh i was thinking of just streaming it and using twitch vods lol. Steal space from the big corpo instead my own drives

as if i dont have like 10tb of unused space currently

[north epoch]

so, outplayed can record your game match by match, and it will also automatically highlight points of interest every match, like knock, knocked kill, killed, wins, number of kills and such

they'll be dsiplayed as icons

[raven hull]

oh wtf

paid service i assume?

[north epoch]

nope

free good sir

[raven hull]

???

[north epoch]

it's the goat

[raven hull]

man programmers are the best

[north epoch]

been using it for 3 years#

[raven hull]

its like minecraft mods, HOW ARE THESE FREE?

[north epoch]

ikr!

there is $3 paid version but it only removes a small watermark

so you don't really need to pay for that

[raven hull]

ohhh its an overwolf thing

[north epoch]

yup, only downside

[raven hull]

im already getting first degree cringe

[north epoch]

you can have it to record your highlights only, what i do tho, is recrd the matches, snip the parts i want and upload them to youtube, then delete everything else

[raven hull]

get off my fking desktop with this nonce ah popup

[north epoch]

haha, it be like that

[raven hull]

any recommendations for settings?

capture settings*

[north epoch]

how good is your pc?

[raven hull]

5900x and 3090

[north epoch]

i can snap a shot of my settings when i get home

[raven hull]

so pretty decent

[raven hull]

[north epoch]

i'll also send you a small clip later if you want to check how it'll look like

[raven hull]

yeah ill take a look at that as well

oh god the folder selection for storing the files is in light mode

i just got fking flashbanged

[mental ridge]

i can help

[unborn token]

https://youtu.be/mt0yT6AXrIY?si=QLaLskNnEzVXA1Ej

un assisted aiming

" aim tage "

[alpine trail]

k

[empty linden]

Hi, i want to aim train and i'm mainly playing apex, i'm a movement player but my aim does not correlate with my level in movement so i'm losing a lot of fights due to this, i started doing the VDIM playlist approximately a week ago but i wonder if an apex playlist could help me more to improve or is it basically the same ?

[alpine trail]

try to think about where ull need to move ur crosshair according to ur movement so theyre not agaisnt eachother

[wintry cypress]

New game just hit lesgo

[empty linden]

well the problem is that i'm not reacting fast enough, if i bunny in circle or chain ras/yuki or snake strafe its not a big problem but if i start to add neo, fatigue jumps etc to this thats when i can't hit a single shot

thats why i wanna aim train (and also miss less shots cus even if i can "track" i'm missing half my mags)

[mental ridge]

do Voltaic benchmark to figure out your weaknesses

[mental ridge]

but that sounds like a smoothness problem to me

[empty linden]

overall its really bad, i did this after a 1H30 playlist so i was warmed up
I didnt try to go for max score as my "peak" scores wouldnt represent my actuall level

[raven hull]

wym? play every run as if its going to be a PB otherwise you arent actively trying and just going off pure autopilot

which sort of defeats the point

[empty linden]

oh then i'll have to redo the whole benchmark, i tought it was made to measure the average/normal skill level and not the PB

[raven hull]

its fine to measure avg as well, but playing a run without the intention of PBing doesnt really make sense. Why play if arent trying to beat your PB beating the PB means you played better than before.

etc

if you just go through the motions and run the playlists on auto pilot you will stagnate fast

[empty linden]

oh mb i didnt say it as i meant it, i'm trying my best on every scenarios, i'm just not trying to beat my PB replaying the scenario multiple times, i'm mainly trying to improve my consistency as i'm very inconsistent but i'm still doing my best whenever i'm doing a scenario

[unborn token]

I'll give u end game tear shit

Vdim is useless

For in-game improvement

[empty linden]

ah

[unborn token]

It's only for benching

[empty linden]

so i should just run an apex playlist ?

[unborn token]

Just give me a bit bc I'm tryna do sm w bios

[unborn token]

I'll give u stuff that translates to game fully

[raven hull]

i mean if you feel a run isnt great, restart it to punish yourself for a poor performance. Punishing your mistakes will make you fix them

[empty linden]

oh thanks

[unborn token]

So u won't have to spam plaza adv thin lg56 schizo extra thin 80% style scenarios

[empty linden]

i'm bronze idk what is that

[unborn token]

Oh I can give u novice style playlists anyway or scenarios

[empty linden]

oh thanks thats a good idea

[unborn token]

Coz what I have is advanced

@raven hull remind me how to get into bios

It didn't put me in for f2 or del

Idfk what key it is

[raven hull]

yeah it will be F2 or delete

maybe F11

it really depends on mobo

[unborn token]

Asus

I did f2 and del

Didn't work

[raven hull]

To get into Asus BIOS, you can press the key F2, Delete, or F9

maybe f9 then

[empty linden]

try F2 or F9, you have to hold the key until it shows the BIOS

[unborn token]

@empty linden
Close tappy strafes dodge easy
Close fast strafes inv easy
Close tappy ad duck ( or smth )
Air angelic 80% good version
Viscose plaza novice
Close LS dodge
Close LS dodge thin easy
Controlsphere diamond

Should be good scens for start

Oh and revolving tracking

Anything revolving tracking

[empty linden]

Thanks, i repeat each one of them how much times ?

[unborn token]

Coz yr main issue is staying on target while moving

[unborn token]

1 to 3 max

Focus on being relatively close to your pbs

[empty linden]

this and my reflexes aswell

[unborn token]

Consistency and you'll be gucci

[unborn token]

Static good

Or any pasu scen

But focus on fixing the main issue

Being on target while moving

Then y can do the test

Rest

also tip

focus less on yr movement

like

10% at best

bc its literally useless against anyone that plays the game

if ur like at movementless sensors level then ig its fine but still

[mental ridge]

everybody goea for peak scores

[empty linden]

I can't find Close tappy strafes dodge easy but i found Close tappy strafes easy, is it this one ? i found everything else but not this one

[empty linden]

i'm playing apex for the movement, i dont really care about ranked or even winning a game, i go pew pew and i move fast x)

[arctic violet]

duude give me some playlist i need that sauce

[arctic violet]

that's the normal version where u don't move

[empty linden]

i found a apex version where i can move, i think its this one

[unborn token]

[unborn token]

yeah i forget its that one

[unborn token]

both r good

[mental ridge]

somebody wanna revive voltaic eu 2?

1v1?

[empty linden]

this will take ~45mins, is that enough ? i dont mind doing more if i can improve more

[mental ridge]

u gotta do it daily

[empty linden]

yeah i know dont worry, i just seems a bit short, most playlist i see are double this time

[mental ridge]

its bullshit to do aimtraining that long imo unless your main game is benchmarking in kovaaks

rather play r5r

[empty linden]

you improve more from playing R5 than aim training ?

Since Kovaak is nonstop shooting if i want to improve faster isnt it better to spam kovaak for a while and then go for like 45min/1hour to maintain the aiming skill level i got by spamming ?

R5 is good to improve at 1v1ing but lets be honest this rarely happen except in firing range and mixtape, if i want to improve overall and not just in this situation i dont think R5 is the best option

[wintry cypress]

Most people with playlists that long grind tf out of kovaaks

I did it in the beginning while playing apex and it defo helped my base mechanics quite a lot

But now i dont aimtrain as much cause im old or something

My brain just turns into mush if i aimtrain too much

[raven hull]

its more nuanced than that for R5, it teaches you strafing and target reading while also accounting for actual apex recoil etc

something you wont get out of an aim trainer

[empty linden]

thats what i want to do too, just rush kovaak till i get to like plat/diamond/jade or smth and then go back to a normal amount of hours just to warmup, idk how much hours it would approximately take tho

[empty linden]

they update the patterns to match the actual season recoil ? About strafing its not a problem honestly
Also, by target reading you mean reading their strafes ? or its smth else ?

[quaint karma]

once youre diamond/jade you should focus on aimtraining in the game imo

[raven hull]

it should be yes, R5 in general is updated with new recoil patterns when they are added to the main game. And yes target reading is reading the opponents strafe and being able to follow it

[quaint karma]

that includes r5 flowstate (the built in aimtrainer) and firing range

and also 1v1s

you could be celestial and still just be mediocre at aiming in ap ex

apex

just how it is

[empty linden]

ohhh i didnt know that, the thing is most 1v1 in R5 are at like 20m range, there is barely any recoil to control there

About target reading, if its reading movement and reacting fast enough can't kovaak bring more value if used properly ? or its kinda the same ?

[empty linden]

yeah with the recoil, bullet drop and bullet speed it add alot of others parameters to aiming

[quaint karma]

i think its more just about reading how apex targets strafe and can move (for close-ish range)

but yeah thats true for medium and farther ranges

which you should definitely do

[alpine trail]

https://imgur.com/a/bD1L7j5

[empty linden]

yeah closerange is my main problem, my reaction time is pathetic

[empty linden]

wait is that you ?

[alpine trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657495244648218641/865558449244864532/kill.gif

no

im better

🗿

[raven hull]

its a cheater clip from ages ago iirc

[empty linden]

that guy was cheating ???

i know him, i did many scrims against him years ago lmao

[quaint karma]

i dont see anything that would indicate hes chceating

[alpine trail]

is that not obvious

[quaint karma]

nothing special about othis clip

idk man lol

the guy changes direction oncec

[empty linden]

could be the thing that was adding AA to mnk(forgot its name) but i saw better tacking

[quaint karma]

i think i heard he was cheating but wasnt he walling anyways?

you can do this legit

[empty linden]

ah rip

[raven hull]

i mean i did say iirc because i cant remember i always see that clip posted as a cheater reaction clip

so i just put 2 and 2 together

[alpine trail]

barrel on car tho,,,

[quaint karma]

ive never seen this clip being posted outside of

that one french guy that used to love spamming random gifs like this

posting it

now after coming back a year later

in this channel specifically

🤨

[alpine trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[unborn token]

Yeah

35-50 minutes a day

Should give u improvement in 2 weeks for sure

You have to prac daily w purpose and yr gucci

[empty linden]

with purpose ?

like trying to get close/beat PR and stay consistent ?

[unborn token]

As long as yr just not autopiloting and trying to consciously be consistent / on target and y realise when yr making mistakes etc

Yr fine

If u just do it to do it

There is no pt in doing it

Same with vdim

@raven hull won't post on 3.4k or 3.6k

It had reset it on 2.1k for ages and I just changed it and it doesn't post

Have to run 3.2k w tweaked timings

Fuck mixing ram

[empty linden]

wdym by realise when your making mistakes ?
I know i'm putting too much tension in my arm and i try to correct it when i feel it but i dont know what else i could look for to improve

[raven hull]

bro you adding this in the middle of a vdim conversation had me mad confused

and yeah can all the sticks do 3400mhz?

because if they ALL cannot it wont work

Ram runs as fast as the slowest stick

[unborn token]

only 2

so im just doing 3.2k

it wont post on 3.4

[unborn token]

yy ik

just had to change back bc it had reset it

[raven hull]

Gl

[unborn token]

and the timings i used

[raven hull]

why are you messing with it anyway

your system is stable

why fuck with it

[unborn token]

BC

I HAD BEEN RUNNING

2K

MHZ

ON 32 GIGS

FOR

MONTHS

BC IT RESET IT

IDK HOW

[raven hull]

Oh

:)

nice

[raven hull]

record a run and watch it back. Notice all the times you are off target and ask yourself why that was. Did you trail behind it from being too slow? Next run conciously make an effort to move faster

etc

that helped me, went from gold reactive to diamond in 3 hours because of reviewing a single run

[north epoch]

@raven hull

i tried finding the most action packed clip with lots of pixels

[alpine trail]

Jokerge

[wintry cypress]

Depends on how fast you learn etc, took me about 300h to get to jade, while someone else i knew took 80h to get there

[north epoch]

this does make it a little big and you can lower it down 10k bitrate

[raven hull]

yeah that looks good enough, especially as im using it for reviews not for montage clips or anything

[raven hull]

did you change any of the apex specific settings?

[unborn token]

daily reminder to check your ram frec

and timings people

apparently @clever lichen was on 1.6k mhz

[north epoch]

i didn't change those since they are highlight related

you can dabble in those if recording full games takes too much space, otherwise it's not needed, you can clip the highlight you want using the scissors icon under every video

that will add your clip to the same folder the match is in

[raven hull]

yeah to start with i want full games

so i can go over every choice made

[north epoch]

i do have a screenshot hot key but that's about it

good luck soldier

[raven hull]

Thank you

[unborn token]

need 32%

[raven hull]

Okay, instead of moping around go get it

[unborn token]

okay buddywhats your acc

[north epoch]

who needs tracking scenarios when you can mirror

[alpine trail]

omg free 100$

mods dont wanna share

or bots idk whos deleting those messages

[raven hull]

this isnt about me

[raven hull]

24.95%

[alpine trail]

get those 0.05%

[raven hull]

if i get on rn its going to go down not up

[alpine trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716863698555371562/1192951530345738330/caption-2-2.gif

[unborn token]

XAAXXAAXXAAXXA

yeah stfu

[raven hull]

tone the greek down bud

[arctic violet]

frfr

[north epoch]

ok got a quick one for you all,
glass or fabric pad for FPS?

[alpine trail]

for apex glass

[unborn token]

no

for apex

[north epoch]

why do you think so? i'm considering getting one but i dunno if it's a good investment or not

[unborn token]

raiden or otsu

or anything aqua

or whatever feels comfy usually

cloth>

[unborn token]

it is a very good investment if you like having almost no friction yr at a good level on mouse control and ingame mechanics

will have way higher highs and way lower lows if u go there tho

cloth way more consistent

endgame pad is otsu or raiden for this game

[north epoch]

hmmm, i have a logitech one so you can guess how bad my mousepad is

[raven hull]

ive heard raiden gets muddy after a few months tho

[unborn token]

yeah get a raiden or an otsu

depends what y wantr

[unborn token]

no

it doesnt

[raven hull]

and otsu is eh, i have one and prefer my skypad

[unborn token]

mine has stains from wine cigarettes and cat hair

and its literally fine

💀

over 6 months now

[raven hull]

and your headphones have sick stains on them

[north epoch]

yeah i dunno if i have that level of control yet
my game sense is probably what carried me so far so using a glass pad seems like i'm making it harder for myself

[raven hull]

all this tells us is you are a mess

[unborn token]

cringe

[unborn token]

get otsu aqua control 2 wallhack cloth or

a raiden

[raven hull]

is this the whole name? otsu aqua control 2 wallhack cloth

is it a newer one?

[north epoch]

[unborn token]

newer one

[raven hull]

ah right

i got one from a few years ago

its nice but feels wrong compared to glass

too much friction

im fighting my mouse

[alpine trail]

Who's winning

[north epoch]

i wonder which is more consistent tho

so far it seems like a fbric pad will give you closer results

[unborn token]

5 off

😦

[alpine trail]

hello, I am new, is there any guide how to setup your controller on steam kovaak? and exactly the same sensitivity (mine is 5-5 linear)

[unborn token]

Massive balls to be asking this in vg

Vt

@quaint karma hook the boy up

[wintry cypress]

I mean its a valid question

[unborn token]

Ik

Just wanted to say it

[alpine trail]

sorry if I've offended anyone

[unborn token]

Nah you're good relax :3

[quaint karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4RKq7sn6L0 first part

[mental ridge]

how long does one keep ranked bannerframes?

[quaint karma]

you need to go to joystick and potentially change your sens to linear tho + disable the deadzone

the way you do that is to set a custom deadzone and move the slider to 0 and 100

the sens you choose roughly lines up with alc sens

[mental ridge]

one should test if one can get 100 output in every direction but in apex its 98

[alpine trail]

thanks

[quaint karma]

since 5-5 has hella high ads sens you can just put that as your sens

so like 200

and i recommend doing something like this

[alpine trail]

Doesnt have to be 1:1 as long as you get no deadzone…

[alpine trail]

Apart from that just practise on Karma NA

[quaint karma]

cuz the stick drift is a bitch

having lower vertical sens means you get less stick drift

[alpine trail]

Stick drift is a bitch but its better than no responsiveness

ig

[quaint karma]

what are you replying to exactly

[alpine trail]

plus it makes you look like a hella goofy beam monster

[alpine trail]

Everything!

@quaint karma thank you very much for the detailed answer

[alpine trail]

Become the next koyful bro

You got this

[quaint karma]

also

you may not be able to play 200 in every scenario, its gonna be near impossible to play in like

static lets say

especially if you have no stick control

so you might have to lower

i play anything between 110 and 300 or so

mostly between 110 and 220

[alpine trail]

alright

@alpine trail how many hours on roller do you have/on apex in general?

or in other shooters

[raven hull]

[raven hull]

they have each seasons icon so i would assume its forever

[quaint karma]

bannerframes are forever

its like badges

[alpine trail]

If the years of playing shooter was a person he would have just graduated university. (all time MNK)
hours on roller probably = 300 hours

hmm why do you feel like you need kovaaks rather than flowstate for apex? or is it for other games as well

I setup r5 this week but I heard kovaaks have more variety when it comes to practice.

[quaint karma]

you should play everything

although practicing with aim assist is crucial

[alpine trail]

Yeah, no aa is very different and if you’re going to be rollering it’s crucial to learn how to use aim assist 😂 like actually

I am trying to do everything in my arsenal , r5 - firing range - mix tape

Im trying some scenarios on kovaaks like intermediate patstrafe which is really nice

[mental ridge]

its a so console grinders can now flex 7x pred on the banner

[quaint karma]

what do you have on it?

what rank

[alpine trail]

Idfk I only care about my apex ingame accuracy which is 3% off koyful’s avg now

I fanboy that guy very hard

[raven hull]

Yes, i mean you could get pred on switch and flex and badge and banner on pc

[quaint karma]

how do you know koyfuls in-game acc

you mean r5?

[alpine trail]

Yeah!

[quaint karma]

in 1v1s?

[alpine trail]

His acc is 48% in 1v1s

@quaint karma just to be sure, when you say flowstate you mean r5 right?

im at 44% now

[raven hull]

yes

[quaint karma]

flowstate is the aimtrainer part of r5

[alpine trail]

alright

[quaint karma]

whats your name on r5

[alpine trail]

whats YOUR name on r5 you little freak 😭😭🙏

[quaint karma]

patiencekyssr5

[alpine trail]

wanting to validity check everything i say huh

[raven hull]

im shocked the bot didnt nuke you for that

lol

[quaint karma]

the name is actually supposed to have one less s but ea wouldnt allow it

[raven hull]

cant imagine why

[raven hull]

to be fair you're the freak in this situation. Nosh's question are reasonable to gauge how good you may be so advice can be given but you actively dodge answering everything

[alpine trail]

Bruh it was a joke

I’m playing on a different alt every 2 weeks to benchmark my progress

So

[quaint karma]

whats your newest one

[alpine trail]

The past two weeks I played on “IAmARealBeast” with 40% acc. Now I have gotten a better score around 43% but I don’t have enough games yet to have it be any meaningful. My main is Giftfromtherift with a whopping 30 something acc because I started my “roller journey” on it

[quaint karma]

i mean that acc has decent accuracy

but not anywhere near koyful

[alpine trail]

Koy has 47%

[quaint karma]

yours has 39

[alpine trail]

bruh

39.97%

round it up omg

[quaint karma]

ok 40 tbh

its very good, theres worse apex roller pros

[alpine trail]

i beat koyful like 7 times already on recording

[alpine trail]

yep most of them suck but i hard stan koy

Albralelie is pretty crazy too

[compact oracle]

btw what is considered a bad/decent/good acc on r5 for mnk?

[quaint karma]

30+ is good i would say

[compact oracle]

alr ty

[alpine trail]

Hardest thing is translating the aim to ingame

Ive been doing tons of range 1v1s and ingame has been improving with it as well

[quaint karma]

just play flowstate and firing range

shoot the dummies

[alpine trail]

Dummies are pointless

[quaint karma]

i disagree

didnt you just say you were trying to translate your accc?

[alpine trail]

Theyre just 1clips

[quaint karma]

well i have translated it

[alpine trail]

huh

[quaint karma]

if you have teh dummies on the right settings

[alpine trail]

just fight people in 1v1s that are crazy at the game and itll get better

dummies no move like actual players do or movement demons

[quaint karma]

how is that gonna improve your range accuracy

[alpine trail]

range accuracy?

like mid range?

[quaint karma]

most of the game doesnt happen within 15m

despite what people think

[alpine trail]

Idk man but my games are usually up close

waiting for opportunity and get a senti shot in or smth

then full send

70% of time im up close in their face with the havoc 💀

Only couple last teams are mid/long range but then just use hemlock or smth

You can practise mid range too with friends in range

Lesgo

Crazy gaming

💀

[quaint karma]

all i know is ive been crazy in 1v1s for a long time but everything else took much longer to develop

i literally swapped to roller and had 40 acc (although back then people were worse)

only doing all these other things got me better outside of those 15m

why would you only practice close range and have your only practice outside of that range be in the actual game?

not very efficient imo

if you dont have your range bots on braindead settings like 99% of people have them on youll get some decent practicec

like yeah dude youre gonna oneclip the bot if it walks back and forth at the same speed, never changing direction

and youre 10m away from it, mirroring it

lol

[unborn token]

??

DECENT WARMUP

mb caps

[unborn token]

24-27 is like

avg okayish

30+ IS GOOD

fucking caps omg

@arctic violet

sauce paying off

[mental elm]

based song

[unborn token]

Gaga supremacy

[twilit flicker]

mokad lg onetrick

[quaint karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdYwICNPDwI listen to this on r5

[wintry cypress]

that song is fucking heat

my fav eurobeat song

[unborn token]

CLASSIC

I haven't listened to it in a while

Usually spam pop techno and deathmetal

While playing

[unborn token]

Mokad endgame player

Asked him how to fix the fucking issue on steafes

I can get 15200 on close fs

Very easily

Even 15300

[twilit flicker]

damn

[unborn token]

If I fix that slight inconvenience I get top 30 score for sure

I got 14955 tod

But it was bad choke bc

I was holding 54 acc

Longtsrafing on that is the shit tbh

[twilit flicker]

it is

[devout tusk]

What scen "close fast strafes" ?

[twilit flicker]

close fs dodge

[devout tusk]

Kovaaks dodge scens are kinda meh to me since you move backwards as you strafe

Feels so weird to play apex after playing those

[unborn token]

close fs dodge

[compact oracle]

Then i am average

Matches with the fact that reactive tracking is my biggest weakness rn

[unborn token]

grind reactive

@twilit flicker

[twilit flicker]

bro is insane

[compact oracle]

will do

[wintry cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1LaIJnOq2nhw5vNigZE15s?si=e280eabbe6fe48c1

[arctic violet]

aimbot sauce gatekeeper😂

[unborn token]

look dms

[wintry cypress]

ALEJANDRO ALEJANDRO 🗣️ ‼️

[hot river]

I have both disabled and its still feels off

[ornate gorge]

then its you

you're the problem.

[calm thicket]

What's going on here

[compact oracle]

Maybe u have a to Switch dpi Mode Button on your Mouse you accidently pressed🤔

[ornate gorge]

is ur fov the same

check ur windows cursor sensitivity that may play into affect ?

u got raw accel ?

[mental ridge]

did u change dpi or lift off distance ?

[hot river]

no

its at 800 dpi

[mental ridge]

pollingrate ?

[hot river]

1000

https://outplayed.tv/media/wBLwWK

feels like my sens is way higher than it is

also in this fight too https://outplayed.tv/media/yV3Ko1

I moved my mouse and it just went all the way right when thats not what I intended

[wintry cypress]

yo wtf lol

might be a driver issue/mouse issue

lowkey looks like your mouse is somewhat spinning out but still tracking somehow

some weird shit lol

[hot river]

yeah I just tried a different mouse and its normal so ur right it is a mouse issue

[wintry cypress]

[mental ridge]

whats your sense

wich mouse has tge issue

[hot river]

1.59 800 dpi

[mental ridge]

whats your lift of distance ?

[hot river]

not sure tbh

[mental ridge]

maybe changing it can impact how your sensor registers the pad

is there any dirt in your sensor like hair or so

[unborn token]

😠

[warped lake]

bro

[devout tusk]

AIMPUNCH HAS GOT 2 GO BRO

[wary star]

insane aimer

[arctic violet]

completely forgot about this mf, now i remember why

[unborn token]

the improvement is real

top 26 mnk acc r5 🗣️

[wintry cypress]

Input diff

[unborn token]

volatic grandmaster vs na controller pro player

🗣️

shouldve died ong

@twilit flicker

[twilit flicker]

goat

[unborn token]

apparently

top 30 acc

on mnk

and i dont even show up on leader

negative kdr as wellxd

[regal kernel]

how tf do i confirm my settings

help

i hate this game already and i havent played 1 round

[severe canyon]

Press apply at the bottom numbnut

[unborn token]

?

On apex

[mental ridge]

skill issue

[uncut bison]

https://x.com/FalconsEsport/status/1795578379770405350

Falcons Esports (@FalconsEsport) on X

Legends Unite! 👑

Introducing the ULTIMATE trio, our unstoppable Apex Legends SUPERTEAM! 🦅⚡️

@ImperialHal • @Genburten • @Zer0OCE

#FalconsAreHere | #شجع_الأخضر

Twitter · May 28, 2024, 10:10 PM

welp...

was hoping it wasnt falcons but

[devout tusk]

every fucking death is this today im going to lose my mind

[compact oracle]

Was kinda obvious cause no other org has the money for this team. But still sad, Saudi sports washing continues..

[unborn token]

NOOOOOO

[raven hull]

Why does Hal look like a bad madame tussauds wax work of himself

[compact oracle]

Sweat from the saudi heat

Or carrying his money bags after this deal lmao

[raven hull]

theres not a shred of life behind those eyes

[north epoch]

I was actually surprised about this

Apex isnt that popular in the middle east compared to cod and overwatch

So them getting an apex team feels kinda odd

[devout tusk]

Saudis trying to get competitive entertainment market share before oil runs out lol

[unborn token]

In what way

There is like almost no org that can afford that roster

And Saudis have like insane fucking money

[unborn token]

Not rly

Esports world cup so it kinda makes sense

Since apex is in

[compact oracle]

This. More teams more better for that world cup thing ig

[uncut bison]

its just sportswashing

but for esports

thats why theyre hosting it in riyadh

and signing a bunch of teams

[unborn token]

I mean they would realistically play under dz still

Even in ewc

But dz literally cannot support Hal zer0 gen privacy and zz

Under a payroll

That's literally like half a mil on a roster

Or near that

They r losing per year

And assuming that team literally dominates with apexes prize pool they'd be near breaking even

If not a bit higher

Makes sense this Saudi org wants the best team to rep them and they have crazy fucking money as well

Makes total sense for the boys to get under contract as well

Like insane money

[woeful garnet]

does anyone elses antivirus fuck with r5r

mine straight up deleted it

[vast oak]

like windows defender?

[vast oak]

.

[woeful garnet]

bitdefender

like i tried launching it

and it said threat detected and just deleted the whole thing

[devout tusk]

https://streamable.com/kq2av7

id be so pissed

if that was me

[devout tusk]

just learned that you cant shield swap while on a zipline

shoulda been obvious tbh

[versed shale]

how do people swap weapons so quickly in r5

[north epoch]

oh yeah that completely slipped my mind.

[severe canyon]

Yeah

[raven hull]

Yes and it continues to go up

plat is 60

diamond 80

etc

[unborn token]

@raven hull best rank filler @lucid lark

[raven hull]

the fuck you @ing me for

[unborn token]

THAT YR A GOOD RANK FILL

AND HE SHOULD PLAY W U

Ungrateful dog

[raven hull]

ive been 3 stacking this whole time

unless we can find a way to get a 4th in

not sure what you expect of me

[raven hull]

so true

[raven hull]

O N G

fr fr

i just lose a game of rock paper scissors with the man in the mirror, im off to practice so i can beat him next time

[unborn token]

Time to get on karma and non consensualy fist controller dogs

[raven hull]

am i tripping or does karma 3 not tell you the input

karma 1 does

and vt eu does but i dont remember it ever showing on karma 3

[unborn token]

Am I weird for expecting schizo waffler

To just say smth random

In ths chat

Bc we aren't in griddy

[raven hull]

Yes

[unborn token]

😭

[raven hull]

you are the schizo waffler of this chat

[feral merlin]

the grind 💪

[unborn token]

Think it depends on UI settings perserver

Personally I haven't seen input for ages

Even In karma kne

[unborn token]

One million blackjack

[unborn token]

Remember the time I was spaming